div1 vs div2

[green wave]

how many people would like to see the div1 state champs play the div2 state champs for right to be called the state champs of texas?

[sltnusmc]

I think the old system was just fine myself, but if we need more teams in the playoffs then go to the super bracket.

[green wave]

i don't think we need more playoff teams just a game to say hey this the best team in the state end of story so div1 and div2 won't have the agruement over who is the best team in texas

[DipnSpit]

I think we know the answer to this and I think we've already had numerous threads about this... one that stands out is KT2000's push for his playoff plan to the UIL

[dragonfootballfan]

I think we know the answer to this and I think we've already had numerous threads about this... one that stands out is KT2000's push for his playoff plan to the UIL
I dissagree with this plan. I would like the State to create a true division 1 and division 2 system and essentially create a 6A. The first thing that I want to happen is for everyone in 5A to play nine regular season games and then every team gets a garaunteed 10th game as a playoff game allowing everyone in the playoffs. This eliminates the district schedule and allows coaches to create their entire schedule. The division 1 and division 2 brackets would be broken up by having the teams with the largest enrollments in division 1 and the teams with the smaller enrollments in division 2. The seeding for these brackets would be done geographically. Yes that has the flaw of having the best two teams playing early, but I don't see a problem with this as nobody is playing for second place. The schools with the largest enrollments in the state would be the division 1 and essentially 6A, while the schools in division 2 would be like 5A.

[BandidoNB]

You just might get your wish. Next year Class 5A will add a fourth team to the 5A playoffs, therefore equalizing the Division I and II playoff brackets. It will only be a matter of time before the UIL will make the Divisional champions square off for the true 5A state championship. Less than three teams is too few to allow to the state playoffs. There are enough new schools to expand Class 5A to accommodate this; yet there wont be enough new schools (for quite some time) to create a Class 6A due to travel concerns.

[cougardude]

I hate the upcoming plan of four teams in the playoffs. Two was enough. The division system is dumb. You always have the argument of what if! :rolleyes:

[Cujo]

I hate the upcoming plan of four teams in the playoffs. Two was enough. The division system is dumb. You always have the argument of what if! :rolleyes:
I think 1 team per district was enough. If you can't win your own district, then why should you have a chance at winning a State Championship? It just totally makes a District Championship meaningless in my opinion, especially with 4 teams per district making the playoffs next year.

[lonny23]

I think 1 team per district was enough. If you can't win your own district, then why should you have a chance at winning a State Championship? It just totally makes a District Championship meaningless in my opinion, especially with 4 teams per district making the playoffs next year.
There are too many great teams who play in a tough district to go back to that. I'd want them to scatter the good teams out if they're going to do that.

[lonny23]

Give me the 1 champion again. The big size doesn't mean as much now as it might've at one time.

[lonny23]

I dissagree with this plan. I would like the State to create a true division 1 and division 2 system and essentially create a 6A. The first thing that I want to happen is for everyone in 5A to play nine regular season games and then every team gets a garaunteed 10th game as a playoff game allowing everyone in the playoffs. This eliminates the district schedule and allows coaches to create their entire schedule. The division 1 and division 2 brackets would be broken up by having the teams with the largest enrollments in division 1 and the teams with the smaller enrollments in division 2. The seeding for these brackets would be done geographically. Yes that has the flaw of having the best two teams playing early, but I don't see a problem with this as nobody is playing for second place. The schools with the largest enrollments in the state would be the division 1 and essentially 6A, while the schools in division 2 would be like 5A.
I won't argue with that. Everybody gets mad about more teams in the playoffs, but if they win, they deserve to be there. If they lose, the right teams are still playing. It's no sweat.

[Cujo]

There are too many great teams who play in a tough district to go back to that. I'd want them to scatter the good teams out if they're going to do that.
Well that's understandable, but I wish there would be no more then a 64 team field per classification for the playoffs. This 2 champion system is ludicrous and is doing nothing but filling the coffers of the administrators..... but I think I'm preaching to the choir.

And I guarantee you, the UIL will not allow there to be a 17th game to be played to decide one champion. If they were going to do that, why wouldn't we already have it?

Frankly, I think KT's playoff system would be ideal and would make everybody happy...... that is of course those who want more money from the extra playoff games.

[ktCarl]

I hate the upcoming plan of four teams in the playoffs. Two was enough. The division system is dumb. You always have the argument of what if! :rolleyes:

I agree with you CD. Even with 3 teams getting in it allows for sub .500 teams to advance making the District Title a joke. Pearland made the playoffs in '98(?) with a 2-8 record. That's silly.

[KT2000]

The "Super Bracket" plan we came up with only requires one more game to be played than what we currently see. What it does is provide a completely performance based playoff system not based on enrollment in any way other than qualifying a school as 5A. Smithson Valley, barely a 5A school enrollment wise, fields one of the largest rosters in the state every year.

Everyone is in the same bracket...96 schools total...District champions receive a bye.

Ultimately, the Super Bracket was voted against by the coaches because some thought the district champions had too much of an advantage on the rest of the field by not having to play that initial round, some didn't like the idea of taking a week off before starting the playoffs if they received the bye and some didn't like the idea of starting everyone in what we currently call "Zero Week." They didn't like the possibility of having to play a 17-game season (a max of two teams out of 250+ would face that possibility each year).

I can't complain though, it was given a shot. It's too bad we're going to 4 teams per district in an attempt to balance off the two division system which doesn't make sense at all from a competition standpoint. I'm a firm believer in the "there should only be one champion" way of thinking but that's not all it's about. For me, it's about getting back to a performance based system and one that places more emphasis on where you finish (district wise) in the regular season.

[clemensbuff]

The "Super Bracket" plan we came up with only requires one more game to be played than what we currently see. What it does is provide a completely performance based playoff system not based on enrollment in any way other than qualifying a school as 5A. Smithson Valley, barely a 5A school enrollment wise, fields one of the largest rosters in the state every year.

Everyone is in the same bracket...96 schools total...District champions receive a bye.

Ultimately, the Super Bracket was voted against by the coaches because some thought the district champions had too much of an advantage on the rest of the field by not having to play that initial round, some didn't like the idea of taking a week off before starting the playoffs if they received the bye and some didn't like the idea of starting everyone in what we currently call "Zero Week." They didn't like the possibility of having to play a 17-game season (a max of two teams out of 250+ would face that possibility each year).

I can't complain though, it was given a shot. It's too bad we're going to 4 teams per district in an attempt to balance off the two division system which doesn't make sense at all from a competition standpoint. I'm a firm believer in the "there should only be one champion" way of thinking but that's not all it's about. For me, it's about getting back to a performance based system and one that places more emphasis on where you finish (district wise) in the regular season.

It's too bad that the UIL placed a third team into the playoffs, much less a
4th place team! I do agree that giving more kids a chance to experience the state playoffs is nice for the kids. Or is it? I was growing up I don't remember ever receiving a ribbon, medal, or a trophy like these kids do today for simply participating in something! I don't remember ever crawling in a hole somewhere because I got second or third place in the softball throw or sack race in the third grade! I remember practicing and playing harder to do better the next time. We were always told to be called the best, you had to be the best. We are so afraid to hurt a childs self esteem now, we are rewarding them for just "playing the game". I say this hurts a child! Tell them that you are proud of them if they did their honest best, but don't give them a trophy when they didn't win. If we continue to do what we are doing with young children, they will start to see that they do not have to give 100% effort to receive reward. In the long run it will create adults that are less self-motivated, and less willing to put in the effort to try and be the absolute best that they can be!

[lonny23]

The "Super Bracket" plan we came up with only requires one more game to be played than what we currently see. What it does is provide a completely performance based playoff system not based on enrollment in any way other than qualifying a school as 5A. Smithson Valley, barely a 5A school enrollment wise, fields one of the largest rosters in the state every year.

Everyone is in the same bracket...96 schools total...District champions receive a bye.

Ultimately, the Super Bracket was voted against by the coaches because some thought the district champions had too much of an advantage on the rest of the field by not having to play that initial round, some didn't like the idea of taking a week off before starting the playoffs if they received the bye and some didn't like the idea of starting everyone in what we currently call "Zero Week." They didn't like the possibility of having to play a 17-game season (a max of two teams out of 250+ would face that possibility each year).

I can't complain though, it was given a shot. It's too bad we're going to 4 teams per district in an attempt to balance off the two division system which doesn't make sense at all from a competition standpoint. I'm a firm believer in the "there should only be one champion" way of thinking but that's not all it's about. For me, it's about getting back to a performance based system and one that places more emphasis on where you finish (district wise) in the regular season.
Boy, they come up with silly reasons for not doing the right thing!

[pack0808]

Yeah we have discussed this plenty and most all of us agree there should only be 1 champ!! I prefer 2 per district and i think 4 is absolutely ridiculous!! :eek: Dang shame is what that is. 2 is perfect. A great team might not make the playoffs is you just use 1. What if the #1 team in the state is in your district. No team should be punished for that!! 1 is too small, 3 is too many, 4 is insanely stupid and 2 is perfect in my opiniion along with 1 champ!!

[dragonfootballfan]

Yeah we have discussed this plenty and most all of us agree there should only be 1 champ!! I prefer 2 per district and i think 4 is absolutely ridiculous!! :eek: Dang shame is what that is. 2 is perfect. A great team might not make the playoffs is you just use 1. What if the #1 team in the state is in your district. No team should be punished for that!! 1 is too small, 3 is too many, 4 is insanely stupid and 2 is perfect in my opiniion along with 1 champ!!
I feel the more kids that get to experience playoff football the better and if they are going to have four teams then they may as well just let everyone in the playoffs.

[DragonFan]

This subject has been discussed to death on this board. Kt had a great plan that would have produced 1 State Champ, but it was voted down in favor of adding another team to the playoffs.

This is High School Football and it means more to the players to be in the playoffs than it does to all of us old guys who would like to see 1 true champ. I think 4 teams is too many but if we have to have 2 champs why not let both Div1 and Div2 play as many games as each other. That makes it more of a equitable championship. Except for the fact that several of the states best teams will never get to play each other because of the decideing factor being only school population.

However, if 4 teams made it this year then SLC would be going Div 1 and would set up a game against Euless Trinity. If the two most populated schools go Div 1 and the other two go Div 2, then you might get a true collection of the top schools in Div 1. This year Div2 would have SLC, Katy, Euless Trinity, Lufkin, Longview, Dallas Carter, North Shore, Plano, Burkner, Midland, Abilene, Judson, etc. That would truely be a Champions bracket!

[KT2000]

I may be insensitive because I played team sports all through growing up but, in my opinion, you shouldn't be in the playoffs if you can't finish at least third in district or better. We've had 2-8 or 3-7 third place teams make the playoffs as is.

Ideally, I'd like to see us go back to two teams per district but I know that'll never happen. However, if we stay with three teams there are ways to make it work.

Taking four teams waters things down way beyond a reasonable point, but that's just my opinion. It won't even be considered a true accomplishment anymore to make the playoffs in consecutive years because at least half the district goes in that format.

[pack0808]

I may be insensitive because I played team sports all through growing up but, in my opinion, you shouldn't be in the playoffs if you can't finish at least third in district or better. We've had 2-8 or 3-7 third place teams make the playoffs as is.

Ideally, I'd like to see us go back to two teams per district but I know that'll never happen. However, if we stay with three teams there are ways to make it work.

Taking four teams waters things down way beyond a reasonable point, but that's just my opinion. It won't even be considered a true accomplishment anymore to make the playoffs in consecutive years because at least half the district goes in that format.


Next year they should rename it PC football and the slogan should be "where we want everybody to have a chance at the playoffs even if they suck because we do not want to hurt anybody's feeeeeeelings". :rolleyes: UIL is officially a joke to me now. The 4 teams did them in!!

[lonny23]

Next year they should rename it PC football and the slogan should be "where we want everybody to have a chance at the playoffs even if they suck because we do not want to hurt anybody's feeeeeeelings". :rolleyes: UIL is officially a joke to me now. The 4 teams did them in!!
Make sure everybody gets a ribbon! :p

[pack0808]

Make sure everybody gets a ribbon! :p


LMAO Lonny that was good!!

[Slim-Rob]

Someone said if you can't win your district you won't win state. Well, in 1995 Judson's only loss of the season was to SA Roosevelt so Roosevelt got the district crown, and BOTH won state. I think 2 teams is good, but 3 is too many and 4 is too easy. The division 1 and division 2 teams can not play each other because I don't think the UIL won't allow you to play past a certain day in December. Now, if we made everyone play on Week 0 through Week 9, and had playoffs at Week 10, there would be 7 weeks for playoffs. Then Div 1 and Div 2 go 6 playoff rounds, then the Champs play each other.

KT's superbracket would work too.

[dragonsdaddy]

Make sure everybody gets a ribbon! :p
to make it really fair, the losers could play consolation games too. more ribbons for more self-esteem. it's all good for the kiddies.

[lonny23]

LMAO Lonny that was good!!
I get tired of all this sensitive stuff. My separated wife is into that crap about timeout and not making kids feel bad and scared. I say you scare kids with punishment, whip them if needed, teach them consequences for their actions, and you can still love them to death. You sure enough have to teach kids that there are winners and losers and to try harder when you lose. Everybody wants something handed to them nowadays and you don't work to be successful.

[lonny23]

Someone said if you can't win your district you won't win state. Well, in 1995 Judson's only loss of the season was to SA Roosevelt so Roosevelt got the district crown, and BOTH won state. I think 2 teams is good, but 3 is too many and 4 is too easy. The division 1 and division 2 teams can not play each other because I don't think the UIL won't allow you to play past a certain day in December. Now, if we made everyone play on Week 0 through Week 9, and had playoffs at Week 10, there would be 7 weeks for playoffs. Then Div 1 and Div 2 go 6 playoff rounds, then the Champs play each other.

KT's superbracket would work too.
Midland almost won it in 2002 as a 3rd place team. North Crowley was mediocre before going on a title run. You can't go back to one team. I'd say eliminate the Valley and El Paso spots if you're going to cut back on teams.

[KT2000]

Seriously though...if it's really all about getting more kids involved then lets structure the season like college football (make every week do or die), combine the computer polls after five games to give us our TBRS (Texas Bowl Ribbon Series), have a three week break after the end of the season so everyone can "get ready for finals" and then just close with a bunch of bowl games (call one of them the championship).

After all, with TV coverage/business influence of Texas High School football on the rise that's where we're headed anyway right? Let's just cut the crap and be done with it.

I may be going over the top on this, but I just feel like championships aren't for everyone and should be undisputed. I think it's wrong that at the end of the year we end up with two teams who fully earned their hardware, but still have to think about that other bracket and whether or not they could have beaten the best from it or even emerged from the region.

[DragonFan]

KT,

It would be interesting to see who would be in the playoffs and in what brackets if we had 4 playoff teams this year. I think the results might surprise a few people. It did me!

[pack0808]

LOL d-daddy that is what we should do you are correct. Then they would all have a chance to participate and everybody could go home with a high self esteem. ;) LOL I hear you Lonny!! We live in the wussy generation and i think it is only going to get worse?? :eek:

[KT2000]

KT,

It would be interesting to see who would be in the playoffs and in what brackets if we had 4 playoff teams this year. I think the results might surprise a few people. It did me!

It'll always be interesting that's for sure, but ultimately you still have/end up with all of the same problems morally and structurally in my opinion.

[Cujo]

We live in the wussy generation and i think it is only going to get worse?? :eek:
Isn't it Kinky Friedman who's running for Governor that says "We will beat back the wussification of Texas if we have to do it one wuss at a time."

Maybe he should head the UIL instead? :p

[dragonfootballfan]

Isn't it Kinky Friedman who's running for Governor that says "We will beat back the wussification of Texas if we have to do it one wuss at a time."

Maybe he should head the UIL instead? :p
yes. He is also in support of same-sex marriage because he feels why shouldn't they be miserable too.

[lonny23]

yes. He is also in support of same-sex marriage because he feels why shouldn't they be miserable too.
That's a good one! :D I'm against same-sex marriage, but the comment is funny.

[Tut]

How 'bout this for something that will never happen?

Looks like we'll have 4 per dist. next year. Why not do it like 7 on 7 and have the top 2 in a championship bracket and the 3 & 4 in a consolation bracket. They would be rewarded for a decent (or mediocre) season and there would be a true champion. The cons. champ would be the best of the rest like the NIT in basketball.

Seriously, I favor the superbracket. I guess it makes too much sense for the powers that be.

[Kingwolf]

coaches like the two divisions b/c what looks better on a resume than "Texas HS Football 5a state champs"

hate the two champs...the arguments after the season are endless..........

[CLFalcon2006]

If this wussification continues by the year 2030 there will be a playoff but all teams will be invited dosen't matter if your 10-0 or 0-10. A parent wil complain about the tackling in football and the UIL will probably institute a flag football rule or two hand touch. We will have D-1 for the largest schools, D-2 for the second largest schools, a D-3, D-4, D-5, D-6, and D-7 just so its fair to everyone. If your team losses it can go into a consolation bracket and from there into another bracket. When its all said and done every single team in Texas can be state champions wheter it be D-1 bracket state champs or D-7 Consolitory bracket 25 state champs.

1 state champ, 2 dist playoff spots, 1 bracket. How hard is that to understand.


PS 1st and 2nd place rings, regional and district MVP awards only; and no mass distribution of ribbons.

"Your the best 4th string punter ever little tommy, have a medal!"

[farmerfan]

if the wussification continues then score will no longer be taken at games and the season will stop at 10 games.

[BandidoNB]

Well call me wierd, but I like the Divisional playoff format. While no true champion will be decided, I think the formatting is fascinating. I also think it was a great idea to add a fourth playoff team to Class 5A. Think about it; the UIL will add more 5A schools to accommodate this, so in the end less than half of all schools will be in the state playoffs (just like before). All this is doing is accommodating the growing numbers of schools around the state. Get a grip guys its not the end of the world! The overall quality of football teams has increased over the years.

Even if only one team per district were allowed into the state playoffs, you would STILL have first round blowouts and "cream puff vs. state power" matchups. So we should at least let all quality teams get a chance. In the end, only the best teams will survive anyways. And if a 2-8 team does go three or four rounds into the state playoffs, who cares? Obviously they put it together, so in the end they got their just reward.

[lonny23]

Well call me wierd, but I like the Divisional playoff format. While no true champion will be decided, I think the formatting is fascinating. I also think it was a great idea to add a fourth playoff team to Class 5A. Think about it; the UIL will add more 5A schools to accommodate this, so in the end less than half of all schools will be in the state playoffs (just like before). All this is doing is accommodating the growing numbers of schools around the state. Get a grip guys its not the end of the world! The overall quality of football teams has increased over the years.

Even if only one team per district were allowed into the state playoffs, you would STILL have first round blowouts and "cream puff vs. state power" matchups. So we should at least let all quality teams get a chance. In the end, only the best teams will survive anyways. And if a 2-8 team does go three or four rounds into the state playoffs, who cares? Obviously they put it together, so in the end they got their just reward.
You're 100% right. If somebody is good enough to win playoff games; more power to them. I like it when 3rd place teams win playoff games.

[pack0808]

Well call me wierd, but I like the Divisional playoff format. While no true champion will be decided, I think the formatting is fascinating. I also think it was a great idea to add a fourth playoff team to Class 5A. Think about it; the UIL will add more 5A schools to accommodate this, so in the end less than half of all schools will be in the state playoffs (just like before). All this is doing is accommodating the growing numbers of schools around the state. Get a grip guys its not the end of the world! The overall quality of football teams has increased over the years.

Even if only one team per district were allowed into the state playoffs, you would STILL have first round blowouts and "cream puff vs. state power" matchups. So we should at least let all quality teams get a chance. In the end, only the best teams will survive anyways. And if a 2-8 team does go three or four rounds into the state playoffs, who cares? Obviously they put it together, so in the end they got their just reward.

I could not disagree with you more!! Horrible idea and it is a joke to hs football. The regular season is becoming pointless. It is all about money not making the game better wake up!!

[LPFAN]

Make sure everybody gets a ribbon! :p
Pretty soon it will be "UPWARDS FOOTBALL" all across Texas. :eek:

[pack0808]

Pretty soon it will be "UPWARDS FOOTBALL" all across Texas. :eek:


LOL LPFAN!! Competition is very good for kids and it prepares them for life. Yes there are winners and losers in games but there are winners and loser in life also. When they get in the real world they will need to know how to handle competition and winning and losing. I just do not get all of this no scoring stuff and nobody wins and loses stuff?? If you have a wacky parent or two that takes it too seriously and causes problems then get rid of them but do not make it some wussy pc league where we do not want to hurt the kids feeling by losing a GAME!! You are just going to hurt the kids in the long run because they are not going to know how to win or lose when it comes to REAL situations in the REAL world. Competition is only natural.

[lonny23]

Pretty soon it will be "UPWARDS FOOTBALL" all across Texas. :eek:
What award will we give to Laredo United South? Maybe Miss Congeniality or the Participation Award! :D

[dragonfootballfan]

What award will we give to Laredo United South? Maybe Miss Congeniality or the Participation Award! :D
will these awards be in the form of trophies, ribbons, or plaques?

[LPFAN]

will these awards be in the form of trophies, ribbons, or plaques?
A juicy, bag of treats and a hug. :eek:

[SLCDad]

Midland almost won it in 2002 as a 3rd place team. North Crowley was mediocre before going on a title run. You can't go back to one team. I'd say eliminate the Valley and El Paso spots if you're going to cut back on teams.Grapevine won the 4A D1 crown in the 1990s as a district 3rd place team. Most of the best 4A teams that year went to D2.

[Cujo]

Grapevine won the 4A D1 crown in the 1990s as a district 3rd place team. Most of the best 4A teams that year went to D2.
John Tyler got to the State Championship game in 2000 as the 3rd place team in district. They were one of the best teams in the state that year and wouldn't have even made the playoffs if only 2 teams were allowed in.

The point is, what's the whole purpose for a District Championship when all a team has to do is worry about winning 3 (or sometimes 2) key games and going 3-7 or 2-8 for the regular season to make the playoffs? By next season, putting banners up for a District Championship and adding another year on the marquee outside the gym for another playoff year will be a total joke.

[dragonsdaddy]

district championships will actually mean something next year, unlike the last many. making the po's however will lose some of it's luster. there will be dozens of teams with losing records in the po's from now on. letter jackets will proclaim that the wearer played in the bidistrict game, but will leave the
2-9 record off i'm thinking. and since everyone who starts, and several who don't, in several districts across the state makes all-district, the jackets will also have another deserved patch.

i did the math and even in 8 team districts, there can be a team finish with a 2-5 district record make the po's. if said team went winless in non-d play, they would join the po ranks at 2-8. this team would have to play the top seed from the adjoining district. what a great plan.

[RidgePride]

The "Super Bracket" plan we came up with only requires one more game to be played than what we currently see. What it does is provide a completely performance based playoff system not based on enrollment in any way other than qualifying a school as 5A. Smithson Valley, barely a 5A school enrollment wise, fields one of the largest rosters in the state every year.

Everyone is in the same bracket...96 schools total...District champions receive a bye.

Ultimately, the Super Bracket was voted against by the coaches because some thought the district champions had too much of an advantage on the rest of the field by not having to play that initial round, some didn't like the idea of taking a week off before starting the playoffs if they received the bye and some didn't like the idea of starting everyone in what we currently call "Zero Week." They didn't like the possibility of having to play a 17-game season (a max of two teams out of 250+ would face that possibility each year).

I can't complain though, it was given a shot. It's too bad we're going to 4 teams per district in an attempt to balance off the two division system which doesn't make sense at all from a competition standpoint. I'm a firm believer in the "there should only be one champion" way of thinking but that's not all it's about. For me, it's about getting back to a performance based system and one that places more emphasis on where you finish (district wise) in the regular season.

With 4 teams making the playoffs and if the D1 champion team played the D2 champion - we would basically have a super playoff bracket. No bye weeks either.

[KT2000]

Not exactly. You'd still have the error in the way the teams are aligned. Enrollment is still your initial factor with four teams per. Two 64 team brackets still divides everyone up, but in the SB there is only one bracket. Nowhere to hide, completely performance based and the winner would be completely undisputed because everyone had to try and get to the same summit.

All I care about is that we get back to a completely performance based playoff system whether that be the Super Bracket or something else.

[lonny23]

Not exactly. You'd still have the error in the way the teams are aligned. Enrollment is still your initial factor with four teams per. Two 64 team brackets still divides everyone up, but in the SB there is only one bracket. Nowhere to hide, completely performance based and the winner would be completely undisputed because everyone had to try and get to the same summit.

All I care about is that we get back to a completely performance based playoff system whether that be the Super Bracket or something else.
What happened to my suggestion last year that everybody quit and just give Judson the title? ;)

[Oiler1]

Well I'm going to go against the grain slightly on this one except I don't have a problem with Div. 1 playing 2 as a final state champion. I don't have a problem with 4 teams in the current system with D1 and D2 because I think the D1's got off easy with one less game.

Yes, I know 2-8 teams have gotten in like Pearland but that one time entrance was just enough to turn a 20 year door mat into and 8-2 team the following year. Some teams are dynasties and they have experienced it over and over, while this one chance to taste the playoffs can change an entire program (this isn't feel good but balance of games for the 2 div., if it was feel good fb then all would get in). While Pearland has only managed to get to the semi's once since that initial shot, they have been in the playoffs 6 consecutive years now. You may argue that a district title means nothing but it means everything to the boys, I haven't heard any of them say..."Oh lets just throw this game we are in the playoffs already". Hardly, this is Texas football and 99.9% will never lay down. Look at the first game as a warmup for the all powerful Katy, North Shore, SLC and Westfield. It ultimately leads to a final anyway (at least in that division for now). And who knows maybe another cinderella team like Beaumont French in 1984 will surprise some folks. New coaches, new systems or injuries may have held a team back that shines in the playoffs and if they suck, they will lose.

I personally root for underdogs and it gets a little tiresome for the same teams year end and out somehow miraculously reloading to be on top again. Successful programs attract parents to move potential athletes into those districts along with good systems those programs put together. Not everyone has facilities and backing like SLC or Westlake which draws parents to live in those districts. Like an SLC poster said on a thread, most all their athletes are attending Velocity. Last I checked, thats 200 bucks a month and there isn't one in all cities. So in the end, throw a bone to a 3-7 and let them taste (obviously still have to win some key DISTRICT games to get there) the playoffs. Its only one more week to wear the pads for possibly the last time in their lives, even if it means losing to a Westfield in the first round.

[green wave]

i still say 4 teams to many 3 teams to many or if you are going to play for teams have a playoff system that at the end say hey this team is the state champs of ALL OF TEXAS.

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i beleive kt2000 plan would've been the perfect plan for the playoffs instead of adding a 4th team

[BandidoNB]

Since so many ppl on here are complaining that the district championship doesnt mean anything with four playoff teams, maybe what the UIL could propose next year is to have the district champion have home field advantage for bidistrict. Second and/or third place finishers play at a neutral site. Fourth place finishers are at the mercy of whoever they end up playing. Happy now?

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i think if you can't finish in the top two you shouldn't get a playoff spot let 4th place teams into the playoffs will be nothing more than a tune up game for the more powerful teams in the system

[Standing On Tradition KT]

If every team gets to go to the playoffs then you might as well throw away the regular season....................Only the top 2 teams in the distrct should go in the playoff because they are the ones who fought harder and earned to be there............

[ruffshod]

Imagine the old 11-5a. everyone gets in. HA Haaa. there should be only one champ per division. Two teams is plenty. Check the brackets this year when po time comes around. and you will see quite a few teams with losing records in there. Getting their hats brought to them. the playoffs are meant for teams that earned it.