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WildcatFan
11-09-2007, 03:39 AM
Well let's go ahead and get it started because the berths are set and stasticially speaking Plano and Allen are going to end up re-matching each other in their regions finals as soon as they get through the warm-up games.

I say Plano of course.

EastSidePlano
11-09-2007, 03:45 AM
In the Rematch i am going to go with Plano. First time around Plano just seemed out of it unable to kick extra points, QB couldnt hang on the ball in the forth when he needed to. Completely Different then the team i have watched since then i would say Plano by 10

allendad
11-09-2007, 07:26 AM
In the Rematch i am going to go with Plano. First time around Plano just seemed out of it unable to kick extra points, QB couldnt hang on the ball in the forth when he needed to. Completely Different then the team i have watched since then i would say Plano by 10


They'll seem even MORE out of it the second time around.

"Different verse, same as the first"!

cy-fair fan
11-09-2007, 07:43 AM
Plano had their chance, and failed at home. Why would a nuetral stadium game be any different?

allendad
11-09-2007, 07:45 AM
Plano had their chance, and failed at home. Why would a nuetral stadium game be any different?


And, I thank you for your intelligent thinking.;)

texas-buckeye
11-09-2007, 08:14 AM
As TO says " get your popcorn " this is going to be a fun thread to watch :)

jmo2818
11-09-2007, 08:21 AM
This is very funny. PESH was saying the same thing last year. Only thing was we were there and they weren't. I think we should all take it one game at a time and talk about the regional final if/when we both get there. Good luck to Plano and Allen.

Tut
11-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Spring Westfield might spoil this rematch.

slcdragonfan
11-09-2007, 08:43 AM
I want to see this game. Hope it is not at the same time as ours.

ken-in-rockwall
11-09-2007, 08:54 AM
Well let's go ahead and get it started because the berths are set and stasticially speaking Plano and Allen are going to end up re-matching each other in their regions finals as soon as they get through the warm-up games.

I say Plano of course.

First you got to get there..:D Statistically speaking it will tougher on Plano than Allen.. why?? Plano's has lost so it can be done. Allen hasn't yet.

Plano fans don't count out Rockwall or Westfield either...;)

okt0ber
11-09-2007, 09:34 AM
After seeing Allen, I think they're beatable. Pass on them all game long. Run-n-shoot. Either they just didn't care against PESH or they don't have a pass defense. And. PESH's QB seems overrated.

bigdaddydog
11-09-2007, 09:36 AM
Spring Westfield might spoil this rematch.

You got that right. I think if you asked any of the Westfield fans they would love a chance to rematch against Allen.

Those Westfield kids played their hearts out this year and have had to deal with some real tragedy this year. Except for a couple bad breaks at the end that game last year should have been theirs.

There are lots of proud and capable programs out there!!

So I hear they are announcing the parade route through Plano on Monday.

Come on Richardson. You can doooit!! :D


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gridiron22
11-09-2007, 09:49 AM
Allen will not make it to the Regional Finals.

They have no defense as we all saw last night. In addition, Westfield will stop their offense this year.

LET IT FLY
11-09-2007, 10:13 AM
All 9-5A HIGH ROLLERS the match you want to see will be the best show under the big house round 2 ALLEN VS. SKYLINE. Before you put them in the big rematch they could be in a PIT BULL FIGHT FOR THE LIVES...:(

tjw
11-09-2007, 10:47 AM
After seeing Allen, I think they're beatable. Pass on them all game long. Run-n-shoot. Either they just didn't care against PESH or they don't have a pass defense. And. PESH's QB seems overrated.

Thats what Rockwall, Rowlett, Plano, Berkner, Wylie, West, Lake Highlands, & East thought too. Ask them did they win?:rolleyes:

And how is PESH's QB overrated?:confused: 2,982 yds & 33 TD's, do not see those numbers out of any other QB's.

Let It FLY - Think you're right it will be a good matchup, but as an Allen fan only see one out come.:D

Gridiron22 - Wouldn't play Westfield until Region Finals, so you might want to take a look at the brackets. And we heard the last line last year, right.

Ken-in-Rockwall - As much as I would like a rematch to shut up Plano fans I agree with you and do not see it happening. Just don't stop like they did in the SLC game and you can be in round 2.

NDsooner12
11-09-2007, 10:59 AM
both teams have to win some games first...

but it would truely be said to have to beat plano again

LET IT FLY
11-09-2007, 11:13 AM
:rolleyes:Thats what Rockwall, Rowlett, Plano, Berkner, Wylie, West, Lake Highlands, & East thought too. Ask them did they win?:rolleyes:

And how is PESH's QB overrated?:confused: 2,982 yds & 33 TD's, do not see those numbers out of any other QB's.

Let It FLY - Think you're right it will be a good matchup, but as an Allen fan only see one out come.:D

Gridiron22 - Wouldn't play Westfield until Region Finals, so you might want to take a look at the brackets. And we heard the last line last year, right.

Ken-in-Rockwall - As much as I would like a rematch to shut up Plano fans I agree with you and do not see it happening. Just don't stop like they did in the SLC game and you can be in round 2.

Indeed there all good teams but no in that district has the speed and size the will see in round 2. As fan of quality high school football these is going to be one pay to see .Allen QB and rec look good and the defence look great but speed kills my friend ...

bigdaddydog
11-09-2007, 11:15 AM
Allen will not make it to the Regional Finals.

They have no defense as we all saw last night. In addition, Westfield will stop their offense this year.

Ah, Miss Cleo!! Nice first post!! I gotta say I love your accent.


Let's all chant it together now, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense.

Just because you say it does not make it true.

Shoot man, Allen's defense scored more points on East than some other teams offense!!

Let me tell you something, if you understand that any defense is a weapon that the coaches determine how to use against an offense, then you will understand that Allens defense is great when the coaches use it correctly.

A loaded gun is not being used to it's full potential when you try to hit someone over the head with it or throw it at someone. Likewise, as soon as the Allen coaches made the changes in how they used the Allen Defense, East was shut down.


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bigdaddydog
11-09-2007, 11:26 AM
:rolleyes:

Indeed there all good teams but no in that district has the speed and size the will see in round 2. As fan of quality high school football these is going to be one pay to see .Allen QB and rec look good and the defence look great but speed kills my friend ...

You may be right and we will see. Right now the Bulls Eye is on Rowlett. Never overlook any opponent and never underestimate the entertainment value of any situation no matter how bad it may seem.

That is why we buy the tickets, make the trip to the games, paint up our teenagers, make stupid signs, bring noise makers, and cheer till we lose our voices.

I fully expect that if Both Allen and Skyline make it to round 2, That all of the Dallas schools come out and support Skyline!! ADAMS, CARTER, MOLINA, SUNSET, and WHITE this is a callout. This is your chance to represent for 11-5A.

THESE ARE THE BEST TIMES OF OUR LIVES!!!


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LUFPAN
11-09-2007, 11:32 AM
Well let's go ahead and get it started because the berths are set and stasticially speaking Plano and Allen are going to end up re-matching each other in their regions finals as soon as they get through the warm-up games.

I say Plano of course.

Both teams are solid, but don't make the mistake of looking this far forward. If you get the kids on the team thinking like this you'll never make it. One game at a time.

Lufkin made this mistake last year, looking forward to a semi-finals rematch with Southlake. One problem, Round Rock tossed us out of the Play-Offs like a cheap frisbee in the second round. One game at a time.

dragonsdaddy
11-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Ah, Miss Cleo!! Nice first post!! I gotta say I love your accent.


Let's all chant it together now, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense, Allen has no defense.

Just because you say it does not make it true.

Shoot man, Allen's defense scored more points on East than some other teams offense!!

Let me tell you something, if you understand that any defense is a weapon that the coaches determine how to use against an offense, then you will understand that Allens defense is great when the coaches use it correctly.

A loaded gun is not being used to it's full potential when you try to hit someone over the head with it or throw it at someone. Likewise, as soon as the Allen coaches made the changes in how they used the Allen Defense, East was shut down.


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if by great you mean extremely mediocre, i agree. they seem to get better in the second half, but they would be hard pressed to stay as bad as they have played in the 2 1st halves of the games i've seen.

tjw
11-09-2007, 11:39 AM
:rolleyes:

Indeed there all good teams but no in that district has the speed and size the will see in round 2. As fan of quality high school football these is going to be one pay to see .Allen QB and rec look good and the defence look great but speed kills my friend ...

This is more then one district listed here and most of those teams have speed and the size of any district in the state including Allen, so not sure what your point is:confused:

Only thing I see on Skyline is defense? Nothing else? 11-5A has not done much lately, Carter use to. So looks like it would be High powered offense against strong defense. Allen has played three or four of those so still do not see any change in out come in a good playoff game.:D

toonman
11-09-2007, 11:40 AM
I like the way Allen is playing and I can see Allen winning the Regional Final. Allen has a Southlake look about them, in that Allen can score a lot of points and if you get into a scorefest with Allen, you will end up losing. If Allen comes up against a defense which can stop this scoring machine, then Allen could come up short.

I know a lot needs to happen, but I look forward to an Allen vs Permian/Trinity match up of Region 1 vs Region 2.

BackNBlack87
11-09-2007, 11:42 AM
All you have to do is watch Allen. They are not a good team. They have a few bright spots. But they arent impressive.

They have no D, an offense that looked so-so versus a bad D.

I havent seen Plano, but Im gonna say they SHOULD smoke them. But Plano could be even worse, who knows.

jmo2818
11-09-2007, 12:06 PM
All you have to do is watch Allen. They are not a good team. They have a few bright spots. But they arent impressive.

They have no D, an offense that looked so-so versus a bad D.

I havent seen Plano, but Im gonna say they SHOULD smoke them. But Plano could be even worse, who knows.

I take my other post back, this is the most off post of the day. PESH D is not that bad. Allen's offense is darn near unstoppable. Ever think that it was Allen's offense that made Ests D look bad? Plano said they should smoke us too. Then we went into their house and beat them while hanging 35 on the "unstoppable" D. I'm not sure why you hate so much on Allen. I guess it's either your jealous or scared?????:D

tjw
11-09-2007, 12:11 PM
All you have to do is watch Allen. They are not a good team. They have a few bright spots. But they arent impressive.

They have no D, an offense that looked so-so versus a bad D.

I havent seen Plano, but Im gonna say they SHOULD smoke them. But Plano could be even worse, who knows.

See post in PESH vs. Allen!! Not saying there was any D in first quarter by either team but Allen shut them down from there on.

So-so offense:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh Guess you have none if thats so-so and never seen any!

You can watch them this Thursday on Versus Channel as NFL Films is rebroadcasting the Plano vs. PESH in the Greatest Rivalry Games series.

nsmustang
11-09-2007, 01:16 PM
Spring Westfield might spoil this rematch.

I think you are right. People are underestimating this bunch. They play a head crackin' brand of ball and are determined to prove something this year.

toonman
11-09-2007, 01:34 PM
All you have to do is watch Allen. They are not a good team. They have a few bright spots. But they arent impressive.

They have no D, an offense that looked so-so versus a bad D.

I havent seen Plano, but Im gonna say they SHOULD smoke them. But Plano could be even worse, who knows.

Any team that is 10-0, coming out of, arguably, one of the toughest districts in the State, scores a ton of points, cannot not be a bad team. Allen is the pick of the D1/Region 2 teams. Allen will be a very very difficult team to beat. Allen's playing style is similar to Southlake Carroll's and that is to keep the scoreboard moving and if you cannot keep up the Allen offense, you will not beat Allen.

New Westfield Fan
11-09-2007, 01:57 PM
We relish the role of spoiler....

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-09-2007, 02:03 PM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

jmo2818
11-09-2007, 02:20 PM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

I would prefer to play Southlake. You know the saying, "To be the best you have to beat the best". Even "IF" for some reason we win state this year, a lot of people will say it's because we didn't have to play Southlake.

dragonsdaddy
11-09-2007, 02:23 PM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

since the football gods have seen fit to exile the eagles , they can safely thump their collective chests as to how this year would be different. and who's to say definitively that they aren't correct. i'm sure that collective cry of relief heard around the metromess from up north hiway 5 ways had nothing to do with an absentee slc.

dragonsdaddy
11-09-2007, 02:25 PM
I would prefer to play Southlake. You know the saying, "To be the best you have to beat the best". Even "IF" for some reason we win state this year, a lot of people will say it's because we didn't have to play Southlake.

not a lot, just everyone not in allen. but truth be told, it won't be anywhere on the trophy, so who cares.

BackNBlack87
11-09-2007, 05:25 PM
not a lot, just everyone not in allen. but truth be told, it won't be anywhere on the trophy, so who cares.

Allen wont be close to the trophy. Their offense is NO WHERE near as good as SLC, Katy, or Permian. and that D was pitiful.

jmo2818
11-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Allen wont be close to the trophy. Their offense is NO WHERE near as good as SLC, Katy, or Permian. and that D was pitiful.

Do you have anything else to say? That seems to be your only line

MOJO94
11-09-2007, 05:35 PM
:confused:I take my other post back, this is the most off post of the day. PESH D is not that bad. Allen's offense is darn near unstoppable. Ever think that it was Allen's offense that made Ests D look bad? Plano said they should smoke us too. Then we went into their house and beat them while hanging 35 on the "unstoppable" D. I'm not sure why you hate so much on Allen. I guess it's either your jealous or scared?????:DOK:confused::confused:

MOJO94
11-09-2007, 05:37 PM
Do you have anything else to say? That seems to be your only lineJust let the boys on the team do the talking if yall make it that far.

BackNBlack87
11-09-2007, 05:39 PM
Do you have anything else to say? That seems to be your only line

Thats really all I need to say. I watched the game. Expecting to see a dominate team a decent game. and I didnt see it... I did see a good team, but not a team that belongs in the top 10. But still a good team, with talent. Just not put together.

The only thing some of the Allen fans seem to be saying is 500 yards of offense, hey guess what... we have that too. And we win by an avg of about 35. and we put up more points than you, and allow way less. I can throw stats around too.

Im basing this off watching the two teams play. One is really, really good. and one, not as good.

WildcatFan
11-09-2007, 11:31 PM
First you got to get there..:D Statistically speaking it will tougher on Plano than Allen.. why?? Plano's has lost so it can be done. Allen hasn't yet.

Plano fans don't count out Rockwall or Westfield either...;)

Yeah Ken of course you would say this which would mean your boys are out. They will be Plano is rolling despite the early season loss to Allen which was not a blow out like East last night.

Plano 35....Rockwall 17

Plano 45 Allen 42

Plano 60 Mojo 3

Plano 28 North Shore 21

Plano D1 2007 State Champs!!!

dragonsdaddy
11-10-2007, 08:13 AM
Yeah Ken of course you would say this which would mean your boys are out. They will be Plano is rolling despite the early season loss to Allen which was not a blow out like East last night.

Plano 35....Rockwall 17

Plano 45 Allen 42

Plano 60 Mojo 3:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Plano 28 North Shore 21

Plano D1 2007 State Champs!!!

yikes

ScottS
11-10-2007, 08:27 AM
I go back and forth on this one. Plano has the coaching, but Allen has the overall scheme. Should be a good one.

Eagle1986
11-10-2007, 08:43 AM
Thats really all I need to say. I watched the game. Expecting to see a dominate team a decent game. and I didnt see it... I did see a good team, but not a team that belongs in the top 10. But still a good team, with talent. Just not put together.

The only thing some of the Allen fans seem to be saying is 500 yards of offense, hey guess what... we have that too. And we win by an avg of about 35. and we put up more points than you, and allow way less. I can throw stats around too.

Im basing this off watching the two teams play. One is really, really good. and one, not as good.

We are all homers, so what we see is always different than what you see. We've watched Allen play all year and you Permian, so we both feel that we have a good team and a shot. Good Luck to ya'll and I hope we get to meet down the road. It's good to see Permian back in it.;)

allendad
11-10-2007, 08:46 AM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

Who did you hear that from? NOBODY!

You Plano crybabies crack me up.

You lose 1 game, and you can't stand it. So, what do you do . . . .
you start throwing this "you don't have to play Carroll" crap on here.

I, for one, want to play whoever we need to play. If it's Carroll every year ...
So be it.

What good would a championship be if you didn't beat the best?

I don't think that Allen will come close to winning D1. I can hope and talk SMACK about it, but I am a realist by nature.

PWF is just envious because his Cats can't even win their own district. So keep throwing your garbage around about Allen being thrilled to not be playing Carroll. It ain't true . . . . . .

But it must make yourself feel better about having a #2 slot in the P.O.

Yes, you'll have to move the 25 year trophies over to fill in that spot you dusted off for the 2007 9-5A trophy you were ripped off from getting.:cry:cry

allendad
11-10-2007, 08:51 AM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!


I HAD to hit this one again . . . . .


So, PWF . . . . . .

How may times has Plano beat Carroll in the Playoffs???????

Oh, that's right, we ALL know how THAT would turn out again!


BOOOOOOO_YAHHHHHHHH!

Eagle1986
11-10-2007, 08:57 AM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

I'm going to call a truce with you PWF, about some of my earlier posts, until the week we play you, if it happens. But, am I wrong in saying that Allen is not the only team that Southlake has knocked out of the playoffs in the past? I believe that Plano and all of the other teams that SLC has faced in Texas since the Katy game have had the same results.:rolleyes: Good luck to Plano, and I hope we have a re-match!;)

ASH1157
11-10-2007, 09:23 AM
All the focus in the wildcat locker room is focusing on beating Rockwall who will be a very tough opponent. First round games are always tricky. If Plano gets by Rockwall then the focus is on their Round 2 opponent.

Let the Allen fans dream their impossible dream about a state championship and how their offense superceeds anything else that makes up a game.

I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!

Nah...Allen was dancing in the streets on Thursday night because they won the District 9-5A championship outright.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-10-2007, 10:54 AM
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Who did you hear that from? NOBODY!

You Plano crybabies crack me up.

You lose 1 game, and you can't stand it. So, what do you do . . . .
you start throwing this "you don't have to play Carroll" crap on here.

I, for one, want to play whoever we need to play. If it's Carroll every year ...
So be it.

What good would a championship be if you didn't beat the best?

I don't think that Allen will come close to winning D1. I can hope and talk SMACK about it, but I am a realist by nature.

PWF is just envious because his Cats can't even win their own district. So keep throwing your garbage around about Allen being thrilled to not be playing Carroll. It ain't true . . . . . .

But it must make yourself feel better about having a #2 slot in the P.O.

Yes, you'll have to move the 25 year trophies over to fill in that spot you dusted off for the 2007 9-5A trophy you were ripped off from getting.:cry:cry

So you Allen folks are so very touchy!! You can't take a joke once in a while and take a little ribbing. If all we talked about was X' 0's and the speed of the linebackers it would get pretty bland and boring. Plus I get a laugh out of how uber serious and sensistive you guys are on the board. Hey when allen beat Plano I had fun with it and played along. I even jumped out of my Clark Field condo. It's all in good fun. RELAX.

Honestly, your glad your not playing SLC.:D

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-10-2007, 10:55 AM
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I HAD to hit this one again . . . . .


So, PWF . . . . . .

How may times has Plano beat Carroll in the Playoffs???????

Oh, that's right, we ALL know how THAT would turn out again!


BOOOOOOO_YAHHHHHHHH!

You got me!! BOOOO YAHHHHH!!:p

At least we don't get beat by 35 + every game. THE SLC game was a classic and came down to the last 4 minutes of the game. Plano had the ball down by 3 and they didn't make the plays.

allendad
11-10-2007, 11:12 AM
So you Allen folks are so very touchy!! You can't take a joke once in a while and take a little ribbing. If all we talked about was X' 0's and the speed of the linebackers it would get pretty bland and boring. Plus I get a laugh out of how uber serious and sensistive you guys are on the board. Hey when allen beat Plano I had fun with it and played along. I even jumped out of my Clark Field condo. It's all in good fun. RELAX.

Honestly, your glad your not playing SLC.:D


I would LOVE to play Carroll more THIS year than any other.

Of course I'm an old fart . . . . . I'm not out on the field, but I would bet that the Allen players would love the chance to beat Carroll. They ARE our playoff rival!

Texas Stadium, cold weather, $85.99 nachos, the GREEN and NAVY/RED on the field . . . . . That's good stuff Maynard!

FIRST . . . . . . We'll spank the MAROON baby!:)

AllenEagle06
11-10-2007, 01:29 PM
So you Allen folks are so very touchy!! You can't take a joke once in a while and take a little ribbing. If all we talked about was X' 0's and the speed of the linebackers it would get pretty bland and boring. Plus I get a laugh out of how uber serious and sensistive you guys are on the board. Hey when allen beat Plano I had fun with it and played along. I even jumped out of my Clark Field condo. It's all in good fun. RELAX.

Honestly, your glad your not playing SLC.:D
First off, when you make comments that AREN'T true, what do you expect? How is anyone supposed to know that you were joking when you said "I heard they were dancing in the streets last night because they went division 1 and wouldn't have to potenially play SLC. We all know how that would turn out again!" You didn't even use an emoticon to tell that you are "joking." Trust me, I live here, and I saw no dancing. Secondly, I am disappointed that we won't meet Carroll in the playoffs this year. I'm pretty tired of hearing from you and others how we "can't get over the hump." Well no one has lately! At least we've made it to them for the past four years.