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Plano Wildcat Fan
11-03-2007, 09:15 PM
Ok,

Currently their are 3 teams with 7 state titles coming into the season that have a chance to be the first team to win #8 and arguably be considered the greatest program in Texas.

Contenders,

SLC ranked 2nd in state will finish 9-1 possible playoff path of top teams like Permian, Trinity, Allen, Plano & Katy to reach #8.

Strengths: Senior leadership on offense, you know the guys, Great tradiiton, been their done that, great coaching staff and the belief they will win no matter what. Very solid Offense even with an so so OL.

Weaknesses: Defense as a whole has been week against the pass has given up some big numbers and yards but is playing better. Defense is a bit undersized.

Plano currently 10th or so in the state rankings only loss to Allen and will finish 9-1. Playoff path of possilby Allen, Permian, Lufkin, Katy and SLC and Trinity, Simlar path to SLC's.

Strengths: BALANCED offense, Equally strong on pass or run. Meger QB has thrown for over 2000 yards. very high % rate, 4 quality receivers and power running game with Burkhead who has 20 touchdowns and 1000 yards. Shutdown the pass, Plano can run. stack the line Plano can throw with the best of them. (Can't believe I am saying that)

Defense is very solid. Giving up less than 12 points a game. Strong against the run.


Weakness: Special team on FG's only 3 FG's all year, 2 misses against PE. Missed extra point in Allen game after 1st touchdown caused Plano to play catch up all game and is the reason they aren't 10-0. Punt team average is inconsistent, a few bad snaps. Can make a huge difference in close games.

Finally Celina 9-0 #1 in 3A. Possible Gilmer match-up could derail 8th title. Just missed out last year with loss in finals. Don't know much on Celina but they win big and they bring the wood.

Ranking of the 3 with most potential to win #8

1. Celina
2. Plano
3. SLC

thoughts?

DragonBand06
11-03-2007, 09:19 PM
Ok,

Currently their are 3 teams with 7 state titles coming into the season that have a chance to be the first team to win #8 and arguably be considered the greatest program in Texas.

Contenders,

SLC ranked 2nd in state will finish 9-1 possible playoff path of top teams like Permian, Trinity, Allen, Plano & Katy to reach #8.

Strengths: Senior leadership on offense, you know the guys, Great tradiiton, been their done that, great coaching staff and the belief they will win no matter what. Very solid Offense even with an so so OL.

Weaknesses: Defense as a whole has been week against the pass has given up some big numbers and yards but is playing better. Defense is a bit undersized.

Plano currently 10th or so in the state rankings only loss to Allen and will finish 9-1. Playoff path of possilby Allen, Permian, Lufkin, Katy and SLC and Trinity, Simlar path to SLC's.

Strengths: BALANCED offense, Equally strong on pass or run. Meger QB has thrown for over 2000 yards. very high % rate, 4 quality receivers and power running game with Burkhead who has 20 touchdowns and 1000 yards. Shutdown the pass, Plano can run. stack the line Plano can throw with the best of them. (Can't believe I am saying that)

Defense is very solid. Giving up less than 12 points a game. Strong against the run.


Weakness: Special team on FG's only 3 FG's all year, 2 misses against PE. Missed extra point in Allen game after 1st touchdown caused Plano to play catch up all game and is the reason they aren't 10-0. Punt team average is inconsistent, a few bad snaps. Can make a huge difference in close games.

Finally Celina 9-0 #1 in 3A. Possible Gilmer match-up could derail 8th title. Just missed out last year with loss in finals. Don't know much on Celina but they win big and they bring the wood.

Ranking of the 3 with most potential to win #8

1. Celina
2. Plano
3. SLC

thoughts?

The only thing that confuses me is that you have one team ranked 2 and another team ranked about 10 with similar playoff runs and yet you have the 10 over the 2. :confused: It's not a homer thing, just a stats thing.

TexasRed6x
11-03-2007, 09:21 PM
Ok,

Currently their are 3 teams with 7 state titles coming into the season that have a chance to be the first team to win #8 and arguably be considered the greatest program in Texas.

Contenders,

SLC ranked 2nd in state will finish 9-1 possible playoff path of top teams like Permian, Trinity, Allen, Plano & Katy to reach #8.

Strengths: Senior leadership on offense, you know the guys, Great tradiiton, been their done that, great coaching staff and the belief they will win no matter what. Very solid Offense even with an so so OL.

Weaknesses: Defense as a whole has been week against the pass has given up some big numbers and yards but is playing better. Defense is a bit undersized.

Plano currently 10th or so in the state rankings only loss to Allen and will finish 9-1. Playoff path of possilby Allen, Permian, Lufkin, Katy and SLC and Trinity, Simlar path to SLC's.

Strengths: BALANCED offense, Equally strong on pass or run. Meger QB has thrown for over 2000 yards. very high % rate, 4 quality receivers and power running game with Burkhead who has 20 touchdowns and 1000 yards. Shutdown the pass, Plano can run. stack the line Plano can throw with the best of them. (Can't believe I am saying that)

Defense is very solid. Giving up less than 12 points a game. Strong against the run.


Weakness: Special team on FG's only 3 FG's all year, 2 misses against PE. Missed extra point in Allen game after 1st touchdown caused Plano to play catch up all game and is the reason they aren't 10-0. Punt team average is inconsistent, a few bad snaps. Can make a huge difference in close games.

Finally Celina 9-0 #1 in 3A. Possible Gilmer match-up could derail 8th title. Just missed out last year with loss in finals. Don't know much on Celina but they win big and they bring the wood.

Ranking of the 3 with most potential to win #8

1. Celina
2. Plano
3. SLC

thoughts?

Either SLC or Celina, Plano forget it stick a fork in they are done.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Either SLC or Celina, Plano forget it stick a fork in they are done.

Your just mad because I commented on your rockets. Why is plano done with a fork in them? This is based on what?

LP-79
11-03-2007, 09:31 PM
Celina has best chance at it. No match up with Gilmer. Repeat of last year IMHO. Gilmer one and done in playoffs.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-03-2007, 09:36 PM
Celina has best chance at it. No match up with Gilmer. Repeat of last year IMHO. Gilmer one and done in playoffs.

I saw gilmer on the Fox broadcast. They looked pretty salty.

NHB06
11-03-2007, 09:46 PM
I predict a 3 way tie for #8. And next season we will be discussing the first to #9.

SLC93
11-03-2007, 09:48 PM
I predict a 3 way tie for #8. And next season we will be discussing the first to #9.

:D:D:D

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-03-2007, 09:51 PM
I predict a 3 way tie for #8. And next season we will be discussing the first to #9.

Nice!! I guess it could happen. What are the odds? Any way SLC can go D1?

mojoguy
11-03-2007, 09:53 PM
I was under the impression that Giddings was ranked #1 in 3A polls, but I don't know if they could play Celina in the playoffs. SLC is a threat to win state as always, but I just don't know if I see Plano doing it this year. I've heard they are a great team this season, but I just have a feeling this isn't their year. I would LOVE the opportunity to play them in the semis though. That would be tradition on tradition as always. I guess I would say SLC has the better shot of the 5A schools, but Celina has a really good shot if they don't play Giddings or Liberty Hill.

SLC93
11-03-2007, 09:55 PM
Nice!! I guess it could happen. What are the odds? Any way SLC can go D1?

No, sir. Carroll's a DII lock.

SLCDad
11-03-2007, 10:23 PM
The only thing that confuses me is that you have one team ranked 2 and another team ranked about 10 with similar playoff runs and yet you have the 10 over the 2. :confused: It's not a homer thing, just a stats thing.

No, it's called being a homer.

Not only was he a homer in his conclusions, but his analysis was that of a homer as well.

Being a homer is allowed on boards like this. No problem.

ScottS
11-03-2007, 10:23 PM
Nice!! I guess it could happen. What are the odds? Any way SLC can go D1?

I guess on paper there might be a way, but it isn't going to happen. SLC is D2.

NHB06
11-03-2007, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE=mojoguy;630649] SLC is a threat to win state as always, but I just don't know if I see Plano doing it this year. I've heard they are a great team this season, but I just have a feeling this isn't their year. I would LOVE the opportunity to play them in the semis though. That would be tradition on tradition as always. [QUOTE]

It's called Plano mystique. We are never highly ranked. And we win when no one expects us to. I believe mojo may have experienced this phenomenon called Plano mystique first hand. FYI -The Cats are back in town!!!

mojoguy
11-03-2007, 10:43 PM
It's called Plano mystique. We are never highly ranked. And we win when no one expects us to. I believe mojo may have experienced this phenomenon called Plano mystique first hand. FYI -The Cats are back in town!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, the cats are back in town, but it's just different cats than what you're implying. We have experienced Plano three times in the past and come up short every time. That's the only playoff opponent to have ever done that to us. Considering that was in the 80's and we've beaten both of our top five ranked opponents this season, I still don't like Plano's chances. Plano is long due for a little Mojo as it is.

NHB06
11-03-2007, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=NHB06;630735][QUOTE=mojoguy;630649] SLC is a threat to win state as always, but I just don't know if I see Plano doing it this year. I've heard they are a great team this season, but I just have a feeling this isn't their year. I would LOVE the opportunity to play them in the semis though. That would be tradition on tradition as always.

Yeah, the cats are back in town, but it's just different cats than what you're implying. We have experienced Plano three times in the past and come up short every time. That's the only playoff opponent to have ever done that to us. Considering that was in the 80's and we've beaten both of our top five ranked opponents this season, I still don't like Plano's chances. Plano is long due for a little Mojo as it is.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Plano is 4-0 against mojo. 5-0 if ET and Arlington Bowie don't get mojo first.

mojoguy
11-03-2007, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE=mojoguy;630753][QUOTE=NHB06;630735]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Plano is 4-0 against mojo. 5-0 if ET and Arlington Bowie don't get mojo first.

Pretty sure it's 3-0 and the last was in 1994. All of those are very relevant to this season's results. Like I said, I hope we get you guys in the semis. I don't make predictions, but let's just say I like our chances at this point. Now, good luck and you guys take care of Region 2. ;)

Pearland Longhorn
11-03-2007, 11:04 PM
I saw gilmer on the Fox broadcast. They looked pretty salty.

They looked even better last year and lost 1st round...

NHB06
11-03-2007, 11:06 PM
[QUOTE=NHB06;630767][QUOTE=mojoguy;630753]

Pretty sure it's 3-0 and the last was in 1994. All of those are very relevant to this season's results. Like I said, I hope we get you guys in the semis. I don't make predictions, but let's just say I like our chances at this point. Now, good luck and you guys take care of Region 2. ;)

I looked it up in my history book. It's 4-0.

1977 Plano 3 Permian 0
1978 Plano 6 Permian 3
1987 Plano 29 Permian 21
1994 Plano 10 Permian 0

Best of luck to mojo in Region 1. Hope to see you in the semis.

mojoguy
11-03-2007, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=mojoguy;630779][QUOTE=NHB06;630767]

I looked it up in my history book. It's 4-0.

1977 Plano 3 Permian 0
1978 Plano 6 Permian 3
1987 Plano 29 Permian 21
1994 Plano 10 Permian 0

Best of luck to mojo in Region 1. Hope to see you in the semis.

Yep, you are right on that. I forgot we played yall twice in the 70's. I would love another defensive struggle like in those days.

WOS87
11-04-2007, 01:13 AM
Did you mean to leave out the team that was the first to get to #7? They won title #7 when Plano only had 4, Celina only had 1 and before SLC had any. They also knocked off #1 ranked Copperas Cove a few weeks back this season....

If they don't win one this year they will be a heavy favorite to do it next year as they are almost guaranteed to drop down a classification with realignment.

Celina is looking to have a cakewalk to the State Finals again this year as they will be going Division II and there are no teams anywhere near the top 10 in either Region I or II of that bracket other than Celina. Liberty Hill is locked in to Division I now along with Gilmer, and there's actually a possibility Giddings could even go Division I. The bottom half of the Division II bracket in 3A is loaded though, so whoever survives to make it to the finals will definitely be a tough opponent for Celina if they make it there.

WildcatFan
11-04-2007, 01:39 AM
I was under the impression that Giddings was ranked #1 in 3A polls, but I don't know if they could play Celina in the playoffs. SLC is a threat to win state as always, but I just don't know if I see Plano doing it this year. I've heard they are a great team this season, but I just have a feeling this isn't their year. I would LOVE the opportunity to play them in the semis though. That would be tradition on tradition as always. I guess I would say SLC has the better shot of the 5A schools, but Celina has a really good shot if they don't play Giddings or Liberty Hill.

Well first off I guess Celina could do it don't really care as this is 5A..OK just kidding Plano was once 2A then 3A then 4A so good luck to the Bobcats if they do.

SLC I think has the best chance of doing it even ahead of Plano. I have gone at with SLC fans on this board for years and having watched them and seen them in the Playoffs most notibaly in 05' TS where we had them but let it slip away, my money would be on SLC to get 8 in 5A this year.

As far as Plano I hope we get it for obvious reasons and have a long way to go. As far as not our year however I do disagree with that statement for the following.

1. From both insiders and out this team is being compared to the 94' squad who was not highly picked, overlooked and under the radar. Because of this that does not mean a championship of course but the comparisons are stark. This team is better than anyone really knows until now. We have all known not just as fans but those of us who know the program really well and the progression that goes back 3 years.

2. We have a core group of '05 freshmen that did start including Burkhead on the 05 squad. Last year we were down due to the loss of the '05 Srs and a not so great QB, but the fresh crop last year was blosterd by the feeder schools who were city champs Vines 04 and 2nd Vines '05 plus a strong Jasper 04 & 05. What we have today and even more exciting for next year is a very solid young, but not inexperienced group of kids.

3. Brence finally has taken the govenor of the engine. Maybe he figured what the hey since he is moving to District AD, or maybe enough fans complained or maybe he realised it was time to adjust the offense to the QB's strengths with Meager's Arm and good recievers i.e. Lott. As a result Plano is a very balanced team with a great passing game this year coupled with our traditional run it right at you and bend don't break D, I would argue Plano has a very stong chance of winning state this year.

Will we well that depends, we must stay healthy number one. It is looking more likely that Allen will now go D1 depending on how East fairs next Friday night against the Eagles, and Allen did beat us this year.

I think we will fly through the ealry rounds of PO's but the test will be Allen in the regional finals and either Mojo or Trinity in the Semis'. If that were to happen I feel we will win state. I strongly feel that North Shore will reperesent out of 3&4 and on paper with their stats we match up well with them if this is the case.

This might not be our year after all, but what i have seen I would not say its anymore Mojo or Trinity's year either and if Allen were to beat us again in a Regional final all bets our off Allen will win state IMHO. Trinity does not posess the talent of years past and Mojo is where Plano was in 05 back after a dismal 3 years.

WildcatFan
11-04-2007, 01:46 AM
Did you mean to leave out the team that was the first to get to #7? They won title #7 when Plano only had 4, Celina only had 1 and before SLC had any. They also knocked off #1 ranked Copperas Cove a few weeks back this season....

If they don't win one this year they will be a heavy favorite to do it next year as they are almost guaranteed to drop down a classification with realignment.

Celina is looking to have a cakewalk to the State Finals again this year as they will be going Division II and there are no teams anywhere near the top 10 in either Region I or II of that bracket other than Celina. Liberty Hill is locked in to Division I now along with Gilmer, and there's actually a possibility Giddings could even go Division I. The bottom half of the Division II bracket in 3A is loaded though, so whoever survives to make it to the finals will definitely be a tough opponent for Celina if they make it there.

No no one forgot about Brownwood we know how many they have as well. Its just they won't get to 8 this year (not unless we get in a time machine back to the 1970's early 80's) regardless of how many they got before anyone else.

GoOwls
11-04-2007, 03:38 AM
Ok,

Currently their are 3 teams with 7 state titles coming into the season that have a chance to be the first team to win #8 and arguably be considered the greatest program in Texas.

Contenders,

SLC ranked 2nd in state will finish 9-1 possible playoff path of top teams like Permian, Trinity, Allen, Plano & Katy to reach #8.

Strengths: Senior leadership on offense, you know the guys, Great tradiiton, been their done that, great coaching staff and the belief they will win no matter what. Very solid Offense even with an so so OL.

Weaknesses: Defense as a whole has been week against the pass has given up some big numbers and yards but is playing better. Defense is a bit undersized.

Plano currently 10th or so in the state rankings only loss to Allen and will finish 9-1. Playoff path of possilby Allen, Permian, Lufkin, Katy and SLC and Trinity, Simlar path to SLC's.

Strengths: BALANCED offense, Equally strong on pass or run. Meger QB has thrown for over 2000 yards. very high % rate, 4 quality receivers and power running game with Burkhead who has 20 touchdowns and 1000 yards. Shutdown the pass, Plano can run. stack the line Plano can throw with the best of them. (Can't believe I am saying that)

Defense is very solid. Giving up less than 12 points a game. Strong against the run.


Weakness: Special team on FG's only 3 FG's all year, 2 misses against PE. Missed extra point in Allen game after 1st touchdown caused Plano to play catch up all game and is the reason they aren't 10-0. Punt team average is inconsistent, a few bad snaps. Can make a huge difference in close games.

Finally Celina 9-0 #1 in 3A. Possible Gilmer match-up could derail 8th title. Just missed out last year with loss in finals. Don't know much on Celina but they win big and they bring the wood.

Ranking of the 3 with most potential to win #8

1. Celina
2. Plano
3. SLC

thoughts?

Thoughts?

Honestly?

Who cares about your scenario? The mythical "best program ever" is as rediculous as crowning National Champions in HS football.

Celina won most of theirs in the last ten years, as did SLC, but in different classes, no comparison. Plano won most of theirs before the invention of the wheel and fire....certainly before the forward pass.

Rediculous...as usual....we expect it. :rolleyes:

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-04-2007, 10:58 AM
Thoughts?

Honestly?

Who cares about your scenario? The mythical "best program ever" is as rediculous as crowning National Champions in HS football.

Celina won most of theirs in the last ten years, as did SLC, but in different classes, no comparison. Plano won most of theirs before the invention of the wheel and fire....certainly before the forward pass.

Rediculous...as usual....we expect it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't expect anything less from you Garlandites. Your envy grows more and more.

Didn't Garland win their titles well before the invention of wheel and fire as well? I guess that dimishes Garlands titles as well. Don't guyss till run the wing T and experiment with the forward pass? Of course you do so your still playing like its 1963 and 64.

Like you have said on previous posts why not try 7 on 7 you might learn a few things about the Forward pass.

Phoenixrising05
11-04-2007, 11:13 AM
What in the heck are you guys talking about?! Plano has won several of their titles within the last 20 years...how young are you to call that the stone age?! lol Geesh. Also Garland won a title or two in the mid to late 90s as well if I recall.

Anyway, back in the day I created a thread like this and still stand by my predictions: MOST likely to get #8 to LEAST likely

1. Celina
2. Carroll
3. Plano
4. Brownwood

I think 1 & 2 are fairly probably, #3 is pretty improbable, and #4 is nigh impossible.

SLC
11-04-2007, 12:04 PM
No doubt its going to be SLC and Celina.

RedRage00
11-04-2007, 12:09 PM
Wouldn't expect anything less from you Garlandites. Your envy grows more and more.

Didn't Garland win their titles well before the invention of wheel and fire as well? I guess that dimishes Garlands titles as well. Don't guyss till run the wing T and experiment with the forward pass? Of course you do so your still playing like its 1963 and 64.

Like you have said on previous posts why not try 7 on 7 you might learn a few things about the Forward pass.

Yeah, he's just hatin'

Don't worry about him lol

JustADad
11-04-2007, 01:48 PM
Weaknesses: Defense as a whole has been week against the pass has given up some big numbers and yards but is playing better. Defense is a bit undersized.

Agreed on pass defense. I believe we lead the area in the amount of pass yardage given up. I do see a glimmer of hope with more pressure coming from the front 4 and the occasional well timed blitz. I don't think the defense is undersized. If so, it would show up against the run. Our run defense averages giving up about 80 yards per game. I'm not saying it will happen but don't be surprised to see another tweak to the defensive backfield to get better coverage.

WOS87
11-04-2007, 04:21 PM
What in the heck are you guys talking about?! Plano has won several of their titles within the last 20 years...how young are you to call that the stone age?! lol Geesh. Also Garland won a title or two in the mid to late 90s as well if I recall.

Anyway, back in the day I created a thread like this and still stand by my predictions: MOST likely to get #8 to LEAST likely

1. Celina
2. Carroll
3. Plano
4. Brownwood

I think 1 & 2 are fairly probably, #3 is pretty improbable, and #4 is nigh impossible.

Brownwood turned in enrollment numbers in the low 900's and will more likely than not be dropping to 3A next year.... if Celina, SLC and Plano can't pull off #8 this year, my money is on Brownwood next year.

GoOwls
11-04-2007, 06:54 PM
Wouldn't expect anything less from you Garlandites. Your envy grows more and more.

Didn't Garland win their titles well before the invention of wheel and fire as well? I guess that dimishes Garlands titles as well. Don't guyss till run the wing T and experiment with the forward pass? Of course you do so your still playing like its 1963 and 64.

Like you have said on previous posts why not try 7 on 7 you might learn a few things about the Forward pass.

Sure we won most of ours many years ago....I'm just not trying to prop up a fragile ego with the age old exploits of guys nearing AARP and social security age.

RedRage, not hatin, just poking with a stick...he responds well to poking with a stick...:D

WildcatFan
11-04-2007, 07:09 PM
[QUOTE=Plano Wildcat Fan;631313]Wouldn't expect anything less from you Garlandites. Your envy grows more and more.


LMAO Good one PWF its so true!

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Sure we won most of ours many years ago....I'm just not trying to prop up a fragile ego with the age old exploits of guys nearing AARP and social security age.

RedRage, not hatin, just poking with a stick...he responds well to poking with a stick...:D

I hope your not talking about me. I just got out of GRAD School:)

By the way who likes getting poked with a stick?

grayowl60
11-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Sure we won most of ours many years ago....I'm just not trying to prop up a fragile ego with the age old exploits of guys nearing AARP and social security age.

RedRage, not hatin, just poking with a stick...he responds well to poking with a stick...:D
LOL! It takes a long time these days to go to graduate school. Just a few thoughts about "envy" Questions:
When is the last time Garland has had a 0-10 seson?
When is the last semifinals game Garland has been to?
when is the last State Championship Garland has won?
How many playoff games has Garland won in the last ten years
Has Garland ever played a playoff game when the other school had half the
enrollment as Garland?
Now then lets see...ask the same questions about Plano "Senior*" High School.
Yes there is some envy on this board. I can not think of ANYTHING that I envy about envy about Plano....nothing.
I believe Plano has won 4 championships in the largest classification. whoopty de ****ing do. Garland has won three. The last in 99.
But its the coaching. The same coach that last year couldnt (Qoute)"coach a peewee team", Now has very little said about him. And now will be the AD of a large ISD. Strange.
Its funny but I go over to read about 9-5A schools sometimes, because we play two of them every year. I seldom see any Garland fans posting on those threads. But boy howdy, one or two Plano fans stalk the Garland threads. Envy? Yep!
Now then... here come the silly crap about my age,, yada yada
But I guess someone that says Cedar Hill fired a good coach, that never got them to the POs, will say any ignorant thought that comes to his mind.

EagleDude73
11-05-2007, 12:22 AM
LOL! It takes a long time these days to go to graduate school. Just a few thoughts about "envy" Questions:
When is the last time Garland has had a 0-10 seson?
When is the last semifinals game Garland has been to?
when is the last State Championship Garland has won?
How many playoff games has Garland won in the last ten years
Has Garland ever played a playoff game when the other school had half the
enrollment as Garland?
Now then lets see...ask the same questions about Plano "Senior*" High School.
Yes there is some envy on this board. I can not think of ANYTHING that I envy about envy about Plano....nothing.
I believe Plano has won 4 championships in the largest classification. whoopty de ****ing do. Garland has won three. The last in 99.
But its the coaching. The same coach that last year couldnt (Qoute)"coach a peewee team", Now has very little said about him. And now will be the AD of a large ISD. Strange.
Its funny but I go over to read about 12-5A schools sometimes, because we play two of them every year. I seldom see any Garland fans posting on those threads. But boy howdy, one or two Plano fans stalk the Garland threads. Envy? Yep!
Now then... here come the silly crap about my age,, yada yada
But I guess someone that says Cedar Hill fired a good coach, that never got them to the POs, will say any ignorant thought that comes to his mind.

Didn't Garland first win their first state title as a 3A in 56 and lost the year before to the Port Neches Indians?

BackNBlack87
11-05-2007, 12:26 AM
How many of SLC's were 5A????

grayowl60
11-05-2007, 12:41 AM
Didn't Garland first win their first state title as a 3A in 56 and lost the year before to the Port Neches Indians?
Yes, beat Nederland and Bum Phillips in a rainstorm in 56. 3-0

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-05-2007, 08:03 AM
LOL! It takes a long time these days to go to graduate school. Just a few thoughts about "envy" Questions:
When is the last time Garland has had a 0-10 seson?
When is the last semifinals game Garland has been to?
when is the last State Championship Garland has won?
How many playoff games has Garland won in the last ten years
Has Garland ever played a playoff game when the other school had half the
enrollment as Garland?
Now then lets see...ask the same questions about Plano "Senior*" High School.
Yes there is some envy on this board. I can not think of ANYTHING that I envy about envy about Plano....nothing.
I believe Plano has won 4 championships in the largest classification. whoopty de ****ing do. Garland has won three. The last in 99.
But its the coaching. The same coach that last year couldnt (Qoute)"coach a peewee team", Now has very little said about him. And now will be the AD of a large ISD. Strange.
Its funny but I go over to read about 9-5A schools sometimes, because we play two of them every year. I seldom see any Garland fans posting on those threads. But boy howdy, one or two Plano fans stalk the Garland threads. Envy? Yep!
Now then... here come the silly crap about my age,, yada yada
But I guess someone that says Cedar Hill fired a good coach, that never got them to the POs, will say any ignorant thought that comes to his mind.

Same song, Same tired verse. over & over & over again. Can you think of anything else orginal than the same tired old ramblings of a jealous man.

I know you don't have much to talk about this season with the Owls at 2-8 this season. However, I'm sure you'll have some great posts leading up to and after the 1st round of the playoff's. I look forward to your eloquent thought out statements like "Shut the FU" and other age defining statements.

I think its time for you rest take some time off and come back strong in August and do all of us a favor.

drgnbkr
11-05-2007, 08:07 AM
How many of SLC's were 5A????

4 of the past 5 years in 5-A..others were 88, 92 & 93 in 3-A

Maxthedog
11-05-2007, 08:09 AM
How many of SLC's were 5A????

2002, 2004, 2005 and last year(2006) after beating the snot out of Permian!!
What's your point? Are you trying to imply that winning a recent 4A or 3A title does not compare to winning a 4A(largest class) 20 years ago? If you think winning a 5A title is 'most best', try running thru the 4A big dogs. There are a few 4A teams that NO 5A school is a 100% lock to win. S-Ville, Everman, WF Rider, CopCove, Waco, several in the Houston area.

The question is, which class is the hardest to win titles. I say they are at the least,,,, equal.

grayowl60
11-05-2007, 08:53 AM
Same song, Same tired verse. over & over & over again. Can you think of anything else orginal than the same tired old ramblings of a jealous man.

I know you don't have much to talk about this season with the Owls at 2-8 this season. However, I'm sure you'll have some great posts leading up to and after the 1st round of the playoff's. I look forward to your eloquent thought out statements like "Shut the FU" and other age defining statements.

I think its time for you rest take some time off and come back strong in August and do all of us a favor.
I just asked some simple questions, hotshot. Just like I have asked in the past when you have poped off. Get the same wise a$$ type reply, no answere. Do you actually know the answers? When has Garland had a 0-10 year? LOL. Why not show your intellect?:Censor: Oh, do you have anything wise to say about Allens defense? San Antonio teen age pregnancy? Cedar Hill coaching? :puke

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-05-2007, 08:54 AM
2002, 2004, 2005 and last year(2006) after beating the snot out of Permian!!
What's your point? Are you trying to imply that winning a recent 4A or 3A title does not compare to winning a 4A(largest class) 20 years ago? If you think winning a 5A title is 'most best', try running thru the 4A big dogs. There are a few 4A teams that NO 5A school is a 100% lock to win. S-Ville, Everman, WF Rider, CopCove, Waco, several in the Houston area.

The question is, which class is the hardest to win titles. I say they are at the least,,,, equal.

I Agree. Some folks feel that any titles before a team gets to 5A doesn't mean as much which is a absolute farce. A team that wins a title in any classification has as much worthiness as any other and isn't tainted by the size of the school.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-05-2007, 08:59 AM
I just asked some simple questions, hotshot. Just like I have asked in the past when you have poped off. Get the same wise a$$ type reply, no answere. Do you actually know the answers? When has Garland had a 0-10 year? LOL. Why not show your intellect?:Censor: Oh, do you have anything wise to say about Allens defense? San Antonio teen age pregnancy? Cedar Hill coaching? :puke

Let me guess Garland has never had an 0-10 season. Hey whether your 0-10 or 2-8 does it really matter at that point? Either way the team is staying home from the playoff's and is not very good. Now, does that somehow make you feel better now?

grayowl60
11-05-2007, 09:16 AM
Let me guess Garland has never had an 0-10 season. Hey whether your 0-10 or 2-8 does it really matter at that point? Either way the team is staying home from the playoff's and is not very good. Now, does that somehow make you feel better now?
Thats great, shows you have vast knowledge of Garland football.. duh. Now then, do you understand the other questions? I have another one. Why high rolling big shot with a condo have to wait in line for anything? Oh, and do you know how many times Garland has not made the POs recently?

planoball34
11-05-2007, 11:37 AM
I would say SLC will get it before Plano will whether this year or next and Celina being 3-A will probably get it but is not in the same catagory as a 5-A team. Does not take away from getting 8 titles though as I think they will and we will have 2 teams at 8 titles.

BackNBlack87
11-05-2007, 01:53 PM
2002, 2004, 2005 and last year(2006) after beating the snot out of Permian!!
What's your point? Are you trying to imply that winning a recent 4A or 3A title does not compare to winning a 4A(largest class) 20 years ago? If you think winning a 5A title is 'most best', try running thru the 4A big dogs. There are a few 4A teams that NO 5A school is a 100% lock to win. S-Ville, Everman, WF Rider, CopCove, Waco, several in the Houston area.

The question is, which class is the hardest to win titles. I say they are at the least,,,, equal.


Uh, It was just a question, but since youre gonna be an @$$ about it... yes, they were'nt in the highest possible class.... so its different. At the time of every one of our titles we were in the higest possible class we could be, I believe.

Not taking away from what SLC has done in the past or are doing right now... but its not the same

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-05-2007, 02:01 PM
Uh, It was just a question, but since youre gonna be an @$$ about it... yes, they were'nt in the highest possible class.... so its different. At the time of every one of our titles we were in the higest possible class we could be, I believe.

Not taking away from what SLC has done in the past or are doing right now... but its not the same

Why do people think that winning a title in 3A or 2A isn't as worthy as winning in 5A? I don't understand the logic. If anything it is probably tougher.

drgnbkr
11-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Why do people think that winning a title in 3A or 2A isn't as worthy as winning in 5A? I don't understand the logic. If anything it is probably tougher.

I think being the winningest program in Texas over the past twenty years, and winning 3 titles in one classification and keeping the tradition going to win 4 more in another class is pretty stout..but that's just me.

SLC93
11-05-2007, 05:35 PM
Why do people think that winning a title in 3A or 2A isn't as worthy as winning in 5A? I don't understand the logic. If anything it is probably tougher.

I'd take our 88 & 92 squads against many, if not any, of the teams in Texas, regardless of classification.

WOS87
11-05-2007, 05:52 PM
I would say SLC will get it before Plano will whether this year or next and Celina being 3-A will probably get it but is not in the same catagory as a 5-A team.

Well if that's the case, then why aren't we talking about Abilene, Permian and Converse Judson, and which will be the first to get their 7th title in the largest classification as they are the only current 5A programs to have 6 titles in the largest existing classification at the time each title was won.

SLC, Plano and Amarillo would be a bit behind with 4 each

BackNBlack87
11-05-2007, 06:49 PM
I think being the winningest program in Texas over the past twenty years, and winning 3 titles in one classification and keeping the tradition going to win 4 more in another class is pretty stout..but that's just me.

Like I said... not taking away from what they did before. But its no more impressive than Mojos 6 in the higest class, or Plano, or whoever....

but I fully believe SLC will win another this year. So if they keep that up, this thread wont be relevant in a few years. Cause they WILL have won 7 titles in the higest class you can be in.

Go Mojo!!!