View Full Version : Klein Oak vs Westfield
slim_bugga06
10-27-2007, 08:36 PM
Lots of firepower and hard hitting in this one. Who's your pick?
Pearland Longhorn
10-27-2007, 08:37 PM
Lots of firepower and hard hitting in this one. Who's your pick?
If the WF defense has improved they will win. Both teams are very dangerous.
EagleDude73
10-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Lots of firepower and hard hitting in this one. Who's your pick?
I saw KO-KF last Thursday night. I can't recall how many times but KO's O drove down but couldn't put points on the board. IMO, they won't have this luxury against SW.
klein_oak_panthers
10-27-2007, 10:08 PM
I think I'll go with Klein Oak on this one!!!:D
legend
10-28-2007, 09:12 AM
I will have to go with Westfield, but they are going to have to score 35 to beat Oak.
slim_bugga06
10-28-2007, 09:34 AM
I will have to go with Westfield, but they are going to have to score 35 to beat Oak.
I don't think so. Oak can't play defense. They can't defend the run cause Wilkins ran all over them. Bo Walker will have his day and Westfield's passing attack will flourish. Oak's secondary is weak, I've seen them in person. They don't like physical play as evident in their matchup against KF.
This game will come down to defense and special teams. Westfield is better in these areas and I'm taking them in a rout.
Westfield by 20.
HoustonBoy
10-28-2007, 09:38 AM
If Westfield played the way they did when they lost to Memorial, KO will beat them.
In the KF VS KO game Klein Oak had 2 1/2 starters out and a backup safety who runs a 4.3.
slim_bugga06
10-28-2007, 09:44 AM
If Westfield played the way they did when they lost to Memorial, KO will beat them.
In the KF VS KO game Klein Oak had 2 1/2 starters out and a backup safety who runs a 4.3.
:eek:OMG I hope not!!!
I am the King123
10-28-2007, 01:45 PM
If Westfield played the way they did when they lost to Memorial, KO will beat them.
In the KF VS KO game Klein Oak had 2 1/2 starters out and a backup safety who runs a 4.3.
if WF plays the way they did against klein they will lose to oak.
klein made many stupid mistakes in that game. WF needs to play very well against oak and i dont think they will.
Oak has the speed that klein doesnt,
oak-28
WF-14
Zcrusher
10-28-2007, 02:09 PM
The televised game last week threw Klein Oak out a rhythm, they were playing tight and I believe trying to impress the cameras. Of course Forest may have had something to do with that too.
Klein Oak wins in a nail biter barn burner. 35-31
Pearland1
10-28-2007, 02:13 PM
very simple Westfield will control the game and win.
klein_oak_panthers
10-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Too easy, Oak wins again, and will be 9-0!:D
EagleDude73
10-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Too easy, Oak wins again, and will be 9-0!:D
WF, here's a tip. KO can't pass (effectively).
KO, here's atip. WF isn't KF.
klein_oak_panthers
10-28-2007, 04:18 PM
Eagle Dude-
Since I can see you're trying to be helpful here, maybe you should be giving some tips to your own team!:D
katfighter
10-28-2007, 04:21 PM
WF, here's a tip. KO can't pass (effectively).
KO, here's atip. WF isn't KF.
Oak will have to score 28+ to win and Theiss will have to be sharp like he has been in some games. WF will put up 28+. Oaks DE's and one LB are good but DT's and secondary aren't. KF couldn't outscore Oak but WF will.
klein_oak_panthers
10-28-2007, 04:44 PM
Klein couldn't outscore Oak, but Westfield sure as heck did outscore Klein!:D (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/5251293.html)
I am the King123
10-28-2007, 04:58 PM
Klein couldn't outscore Oak, but Westfield sure as heck did outscore Klein!:D (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/5251293.html)
change four or five plays and that game is close or klein even wins.
a good team will beat WF.
If oaks defense is any good and they can take some hits oak will beat WF
oak - 28
WF - 14
slim_bugga06
10-28-2007, 05:10 PM
The televised game last week threw Klein Oak out a rhythm, they were playing tight and I believe trying to impress the cameras. Of course Forest may have had something to do with that too.
Klein Oak wins in a nail biter barn burner. 35-31
If this is the case, then KF should've won.
EagleDude73
10-28-2007, 05:14 PM
Eagle Dude-
Since I can see you're trying to be helpful here, maybe you should be giving some tips to your own team!:D
I have,
not trying to hijack this thread and then we'll get back on topic as to what both teams need to do to beat each other or play poorly and still win. But, I already said Klein needs to throw out their tapes of KO and start concentrating on Conroe. Maybe KO should forget about WF and Klein and start concentrating on Lufkin. In any case, I don't really see how KO can play like they did against KF and stiil win. They had drives which ended in no points not even FG's and your fans sitting around me said it was because they had no one with the distance so they(KO) went for first downs and didn't always make it. I think the WF coaches have already turned off the Texans game and are reviewing this as we speak. If the Panthers are going to take this one then they are going to have to step up their game. I am not saying this to be 'anti-pantheric', but just stating what I have seen.
"The Panthers consider the Mustangs to be neither a rival nor a threat"
slim_bugga06
10-28-2007, 05:36 PM
change four or five plays and that game is close or klein even wins.
a good team will beat WF.
If oaks defense is any good and they can take some hits oak will beat WF
oak - 28
WF - 14
Great teams make great plays when it counts. Dominant teams capitalize no matter what the mistake is or who you're playing. Westfield capitalized on Klein's mistakes. Who wouldn't want to capitalize on another teams mistakes? It looks like Klein was the sore loser saturday. I guess it runs through the Klein system.
Oak's defense is average at best. Not Championship caliber IMO. I wouldn't compare it to Westfield's. With the exception of Hales and Robinson, Oak's offense is well...exactly. Westfield definately has more playmakers, offensively and defensively. I don't see Oak outing Westfield at home. The momentum is clearly in Westfield's favor and I don't see them losing at home to a Klein school.
Westfield - 44
Klein Oak - 14
klein_oak_panthers
10-28-2007, 06:28 PM
Spring and Westfield share George Stadium.
It's a really nice stadium, and we enjoyed playing Spring in their home stadium. I really don't think the location will matter to Klein Oak. But, again thank you for all of the unsolicited advice for the Klein Oak team. Man, that must be why we just keep on winning!!!:D
EagleDude73
10-28-2007, 07:14 PM
Great teams make great plays when it counts. Dominant teams capitalize no matter what the mistake is or who you're playing. Westfield capitalized on Klein's mistakes. Who wouldn't want to capitalize on another teams mistakes? It looks like Klein was the sore loser saturday. I guess it runs through the Klein system.
Oak's defense is average at best. Not Championship caliber IMO. I wouldn't compare it to Westfield's. With the exception of Hales and Robinson, Oak's offense is well...exactly. Westfield definately has more playmakers, offensively and defensively. I don't see Oak outing Westfield at home. The momentum is clearly in Westfield's favor and I don't see them losing at home to a Klein school.
Westfield - 44
Klein Oak - 14
How was Klein a sore loser? I haven't seen one negative post on here about WF. All do respect to the great and almighty MUSTANGS. They own bearkats in '07.
slim_bugga06
10-28-2007, 08:24 PM
How was Klein a sore loser? I haven't seen one negative post on here about WF. All do respect to the great and almighty MUSTANGS. They own bearkats in '07.
Okay, so I used a bad choice of words, I'll admit to that. My point is, Klein got beat. Rather they played good or bad, they lost. Good teams overcome mistakes. Klein doesn't suck outright, but I wouldn't call them elite just yet.
I am the King123
10-28-2007, 08:28 PM
Great teams make great plays when it counts. Dominant teams capitalize no matter what the mistake is or who you're playing. Westfield capitalized on Klein's mistakes. Who wouldn't want to capitalize on another teams mistakes? It looks like Klein was the sore loser saturday. I guess it runs through the Klein system.
Oak's defense is average at best. Not Championship caliber IMO. I wouldn't compare it to Westfield's. With the exception of Hales and Robinson, Oak's offense is well...exactly. Westfield definately has more playmakers, offensively and defensively. I don't see Oak outing Westfield at home. The momentum is clearly in Westfield's favor and I don't see them losing at home to a Klein school.
Westfield - 44
Klein Oak - 14
WF is the sore loser, atleast through ur whole system. WF's JV A and B are the biggest babies i have ever seen. when it was 24-3 in the A game the kids were taking cheap shots and pinching in the bottom of the pile and talking trash. one of their kids got thrown out during the fourth quarter due to trash talking/pushing after the play. If you want to talk about sore losing just look at ur own program.
this stuff wasnt even the worst of what was happening. they got beat, grow up
jp744
10-28-2007, 09:41 PM
WF, here's a tip. KO can't pass (effectively).
KO, here's atip. WF isn't KF.
Before you say this. I want to tell you something that you may not know. Last year in the 2006 State Quarterfinals game against Richardson Berkner Wes Theiss came in for the hurt Josh Cooley and was only 6-6 for 157 and 2td's. This kid can throw the ball. They have not had to throw the ball this year because nobody has stopped Hales or TRob in the same game. I think they tried to open it up against KF early but never got into a rythym. Then DHales took over. I think that they have three weapons to throw the ball to. I see them open it up against WF and take over the game. I don't know if WF d-line is as good as KF's. I just don't think they could possibly be better than KF. My call is
KO 35-21
EagleDude73
10-28-2007, 09:53 PM
If I recall, and correct me if I am wrong. KO was trailing in the fourth. They had attempted passes and failed. They got the ball back and Desean broke it from the 29 for 71 yards. It was not like he had dominated for the "drive". Up until then, KO fans were quiet and worried. 50 yd line, Row BB observer. BTW, I am not a KF fan.
jp744
10-28-2007, 10:12 PM
If I recall, and correct me if I am wrong. KO was trailing in the fourth. They had attempted passes and failed. They got the ball back and Desean broke it from the 29 for 71 yards. It was not like he had dominated for the "drive". Up until then, KO fans were quiet and worried. 50 yd line, Row BB observer. BTW, I am not a KF fan.
Your telling me that his two runs and punt return (even though it was called back)was not dominating? Dude they only threw 17 passes and amassed 323 yards of total offense. Theiss threw for 60 something yards and Hales was half of it. Hales was the offense and yes he did dominate the drive because it was a one play drive for 71 yards!
HoustonBoy
10-28-2007, 10:33 PM
As I recalled KO had KF stopped on 4th down and 2 times in the game because of a offsides penalty KF got 2 free first downs. Desean Hales dropped a punt that KF got it's first TD off of and Hales had a huge punt return called back because of a pentalty. KF was saved many chances but our D still held on.
Weak secondary? What did their QB have, like 2 of 11 for 12 yards?
slim_bugga06
10-29-2007, 08:34 AM
WF is the sore loser, atleast through ur whole system. WF's JV A and B are the biggest babies i have ever seen. when it was 24-3 in the A game the kids were taking cheap shots and pinching in the bottom of the pile and talking trash. one of their kids got thrown out during the fourth quarter due to trash talking/pushing after the play. If you want to talk about sore losing just look at ur own program.
this stuff wasnt even the worst of what was happening. they got beat, grow up
What do you expect, they're JV.
I am the King123
10-29-2007, 09:28 AM
What do you expect, they're JV.
sophmores and juniors in high school, not third grade girls
slim_bugga06
10-29-2007, 09:54 AM
My bad, the ref's were the sore losers. They literally gave klein 1st downs without even measuring the ball. I guess that's where I got the sore losing idea.;)
Klein still have something to prove next week against KOak. All is not lost.
slim_bugga06
10-29-2007, 10:01 AM
As I recalled KO had KF stopped on 4th down and 2 times in the game because of a offsides penalty KF got 2 free first downs. Desean Hales dropped a punt that KF got it's first TD off of and Hales had a huge punt return called back because of a pentalty. KF was saved many chances but our D still held on.
Weak secondary? What did their QB have, like 2 of 11 for 12 yards?
Both QB's looked ineffective that game. As far as Oak's secondary? I don't know. But if they can't defend the run, they're gonna get torched IMO.
Favpack
10-29-2007, 10:43 AM
I guess I'm a fool because Klein Oak's D looked pretty good to me - holding KF to three scores. And, they win it on the run of the year by Hales.
I think this will be a heck of a game.
fitz400
10-29-2007, 11:12 AM
Wf-35
Ko-17
trap43xx
10-29-2007, 02:32 PM
I said WF would beat KF easlily and they did. I said WF would run Klein and they did. WF 38 KO 10.
ForestFootball
10-29-2007, 05:39 PM
I said WF would beat KF easlily and they did. I said WF would run Klein and they did. WF 38 KO 10.
this ones decided already WF WINS OVER KO....
if you look at it this way most ppl trashed KF for having close games and not having Dominating performances..dont know y i put this its completely irrelavent
-KF dominated by WF
-KO barely beats KF
therefore WF will win
(this is a very very very Invalid Conclusion I know but, ill stick to it.):D
I hope KO doesnt get nervous again jus becuz its a big game:rolleyes:...if they fall behind early its over...
whoa! didnt mean to quote You Trap!
I am the King123
10-29-2007, 06:03 PM
My bad, the ref's were the sore losers. They literally gave klein 1st downs without even measuring the ball. I guess that's where I got the sore losing idea.;)
Klein still have something to prove next week against KOak. All is not lost.
wow did u watch the game? if u want to talk about refs, they were in WF favor big time.
the refs were very bad.
ur talking about one first down at the end of the game when it was over, and even if they wouldve measured it wouldve been 4th and one inch if they didnt get it.
HoustonBoy
10-29-2007, 07:41 PM
KO will be ready for WF.
protect_this_house
10-29-2007, 08:07 PM
The televised game last week threw Klein Oak out a rhythm, they were playing tight and I believe trying to impress the cameras. Of course Forest may have had something to do with that too.
Klein Oak wins in a nail biter barn burner. 35-31
EXCUSE. KO was down early, down at the half, and down late in the game. It took perhaps the RUN OF THE YEAR by D Hales in the 4th for KO to win. Other than that I'll admit that KO played defense well enough to set up 10 points off a fumble in the first half & the HORRIBLE pick to start the second half. THAT was the difference in the game.
I don't see WF making the same mistakes KF made. They will run the ball up KO's rear and not turn it over for points. Yes, T-Rob & Hales will make some playes, those guys are both legit, but I see WF's offense keeping the chains moving & keeping those two off the field. KF & WF BOTH have great defenses.
WF will win it.
Zcrusher
10-29-2007, 08:47 PM
Everyone keeps referring to the KF game, but I've never seen KO stumble, slip or get stuffed more at the line than in that game. Play calling was constantly up the middle and was stuffed by a solid defense. Most here seem to think KO will not learn anything from that game. I acknowledge a team can have a bad day, but it usually doesn't happen 2 weeks in a row.
KO WINS in a poolhall brawl.
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