Southlake Carroll vs Keller updates

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller Indians, tied for second in district, are up. Not that it's saying much, but they're the best Carroll has seen in weeks. Updates to follow.

[Phoenixrising05]

To start the game, Keller will receive, and start at their own 20


1 & 10 - Jones to Perkins for 10 yards

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at their own 30

1 & 10 - Jones to Perkins for 3

2 & 7 - Jones to Perkins for 12

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at their own 45

1 & 10 - Jones keeps for 16

[Phoenixrising05]

at Carroll's 39

1 & 10 - Jones flushed out and throws out of bounds

2 & 10 - Jones to Martin for 26 :eek:

theyr'e absolutely dominating the d so far

[Dragon4709]

Hey just wanted to say thanks ahead of time for the updates since im at work and cant listen again

[RedRage00]

Ugh, you're not at the game?

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Dragon's 14

1 & 10 - Jones keeps it for 2

2 & 8 - Jones to Martin for 8

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Dragon 4

3 & 1 - Jones keeps it for 2

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1 & goal (2) - Leonard in for the TD

SC 0 KH 6 -- 8:33 1stQ


first time since the rockwall game that carroll has been losing

[Phoenixrising05]

Ugh, you're not at the game?

Actualy i wass supposed to go tonight...but starting puking last night and haven't stopped :puke

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller's punt returned 24 yards by Freeman to Carroll's 31

[Phoenixrising05]

at their own 31

1 & 10 - Dodge to Freeman for 12

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Dragon 42

1 & 10 - Dodge sacked for a loss of 8 :eek:

2 & 18 - Dodge to Cunningham for 18 :eek:

[RedRage00]

Actualy i wass supposed to go tonight...but starting puking last night and haven't stopped :puke

Im just feeling lazy tonight lol

GO KELLER!:cool::Music

[Phoenixrising05]

sorry had to go to the RR :rolleyes: i hate being sick

at the Keller 14

3 & 5 - Dodge to Freeman for the TD!! :D



SC 7
KH 6

5:05 1stQ

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller will start at their own 20...time to see how the defense adjusts to that ownage on the first possession

1 & 10 - Jones to Pearson for 7

2 & 3 - Jones keeps it for 5

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Keller 32

1 & 10 - Jones to Leonard for 4

2 & 4 - Jones keeps it for 2

3 & 2 - Jones to Martin incomplete :cool:

4 & 2 - going for it....Jones to Leonard for 9 :Censor:

[RedRage00]

Let's go Keller lets go *Clap clap*


:D

[Phoenixrising05]

at their own 49

1 & 10 - Jones to Martin for 10...but fumbled and recovered by Carroll :eek: :rolleyes:

[Phoenixrising05]

another RR break :puke

Carroll at the Keller 25

1 & 10 - Dodge to Freeman for 10

[BigFanSLC]

Freeman has stepped up big these past few games

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Keller 15

1 & 10 - Dodge keeps it in for the TD...but Dragons flagged for holding

at the Keller 22

1 & 17 - Dodge flushed out and just gets rid of the ball

2 & 17 - Dodge to Freeman for 17

[Phoenixrising05]

1 & goal (5) - Newton fumbles the ball and Keller recovers at hteir own 5 :Censor:

[dpop9157]

yea im going with carroll no doubt

[Phoenixrising05]

end of the 1stQ

Keller at their own 5

1 & 10 - handoff to Perkins for 6

2 & 5 - Jones to Martin for 9

This defense is playing awful

[slc1knight]

end of the 1stQ

Keller at their own 5

1 & 10 - handoff to Perkins for 6

2 & 5 - Jones to Martin for 9

This defense is playing awful

Me thinks the defense is not so hot this year...

[Phoenixrising05]

at the Keller 20

1 & 10 - Jones keeps it for a loss of 1

2 & 11 - Jones to Martin incomplete

3 & 11 - Jones to Pearson for 9

4 & 2 - Keller looking to punt

[Phoenixrising05]

Carroll faircatches at their own 34

1 & 10 - Dodge to Brainard for 57 yards!!!! :eek: :D :eek:

[Dragon4709]

Me thinks the defense is not so hot this year...
well at least our offense is

[BigFanSLC]

this doesnt sound like slc football

[slc1knight]

well at least our offense is

Agree - but sounds sloppy tonight -

[Phoenixrising05]

Carroll gets down to the Keller red but forced to settle for a FG

but then, for like the 50th time, we have a bad snap and are forced to jsut fall on the bal

[BigFanSLC]

this doesnt sound like slc football


i said it

[Phoenixrising05]

this doesnt sound like slc football

not at all....reminds me of the grapevine game of a few years back

[Dragon4709]

Agree - but sounds sloppy tonight -

yeah i agree i think we are gonna have to step it up big time if we wanna come out of this one bc we are pretty much getting pushed around right now

[Phoenixrising05]

sorry i'm off tonight...between vomitng and medicatio ni cant keep up with play-byplay

after being forced into 3rd and 10 deep in their own territory, the Dragon secondray gives up yet another big play for 18...

[slc1knight]

This is pathetic....Keller is not that good

[RedRage00]

So, they missed the FG?

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller down to the Dragon 22 due to missed tackles and a terrible secondary

[BigFanSLC]

bad snap.... now keller is looking to score again :confused:

[Dragon4709]

i figured it out we are trying something different this week, we are putting the backups in first half and the starters in second half

[Phoenixrising05]

So, they missed the FG?

they never got the chance...the snap was low and the kicker just had to fall ontop fo the ball....he has had like 15 bad snaps this year i'm not sure why he is still allowed to play

[BigFanSLC]

keller is winning.

this is not good.

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller into the endzone

will still go for the PAT instead of 2 pt

KH 13
SC 7

5:13 2ndQ

[Phoenixrising05]

i figured it out we are trying something different this week, we are putting the backups in first half and the starters in second half

LOL

[BigFanSLC]

the offense needs to prove a point on this drive

[Phoenixrising05]

2 plays into the possession...Carroll has gone 50+ yards and is deep in Keller territory

[BigFanSLC]

thats what im talking about :D

[Dragon4709]

wow guess half the team decided to wake up now they just need to go kick the other half in the :Censor: so the get up to

[Phoenixrising05]

maybe we should let some of the guys on offense play on defense...couldn't hurt! :rolleyes:

[Phoenixrising05]

So i thought since i feel like :Censor: i should listen to the game to make me feel better....they better turn this around soon!!!

[Dragon4709]

i dont think i have seen this many :Censor::Censor::Censor: in a carroll thread in awhile

[Phoenixrising05]

FINALLY forced a 4th down

[Phoenixrising05]

i dont think i have seen this many :Censor::Censor::Censor: in a carroll thread in awhile

IDK i was pretty pissed last week when we let NW score 2 4thQ TD lol

[Phoenixrising05]

Carroll at midfield again...

[Dragon4709]

IDK i was pretty pissed last week when we let NW score 2 4thQ TD lol

yeah well atleast we won that one by 40 points! i will be happy if we can come out of this one by 4 points

[BigFanSLC]

:Dsee i say the dragons need to make a point and we score in 3 plays and force a 4th down! haha

small steps at a time

[Phoenixrising05]

yeah well atleast we won that one by 40 points! i will be happy if we can come out of this one by 4 points

If it was our old coaching staf I would be confident on our halftime adjustments and say we will by a ton....but given the MNW and Rockwall games i don't know about this staff

[Dragon4709]

:Dsee i say the dragons need to make a point and we score in 3 plays and force a 4th down! haha

small steps at a time

lol well say it again:D

[BigFanSLC]

the dragon o needs to stop making mistakes and score! ;)

[Phoenixrising05]

well if every team is entitled to one crap game in the regular season...id prefer it be this game rather than grapveine

[slc1knight]

Sure is nice to have Brainard back.

[Phoenixrising05]

Alright if we can get our :Censor: together in teh second half and allow NO MORE points...and finaly keep the starters in the whole game..we COULD hypotheticaly end up with a respectable score

[Texasfrog]

It's a close game but it sure sounds like Keller doesnt play defense.

[Dragon4709]

the dragon o needs to stop making mistakes and score! ;)

wasn't exactly the same statement but still worked none the less :D

[Dragon4709]

It's a close game but it sure sounds like Keller doesnt play defense.

well at this point either are we

[BigFanSLC]

wasn't exactly the same statement but still worked none the less :D

i have magical powers ha

[Dragon4709]

i have magical powers ha

lol well dont go far bc they might need you down the stretch

[BigFanSLC]

im always here i aint got nothin better to do lol

[Dragon4709]

im always here i aint got nothin better to do lol

me either its this or work and well i will let ya guess which one i am doing:D

[BigFanSLC]

well i playing solitaire to keep me busy

[Dragon4709]

well i playing solitaire to keep me busy

lol yeah well im suppose to be out protecting and serving the community but Carroll football is way more important

[ktCarl]

Isn't this Carroll's big rivalry game? If it is I would expect Keller to be gunning for ya'll and making somewhat of a game but I think you guys pull away big time.

[Texasfrog]

well at this point either are we

Ya, but SLC should have about 2 more tds. They have almost 400 yards of offense in the 1st half against Keller.

[Dragon4709]

Ya, but SLC should have about 2 more tds. They have almost 400 yards of offense in the 1st half against Keller.

true we just need to stop helping them and finish drives, whether it be not fumbling on the goal line or bad snaps on fieldgoals

[Phoenixrising05]

to start the half Keller tries an onside kick and fails...Carroll has it at the Keller 48!!!

[Phoenixrising05]

Carroll down to the 33

[Phoenixrising05]

Dodge sacked on a second down

[Phoenixrising05]

how is that a loss of down?!?!

[Phoenixrising05]

Offense sucked :Censor: on 1st possession of the half....Keller takes over at their own 20

[slc1knight]

4 and 16 on Keller 35 - If Wasson was confident or wanted to light a fire, he should have gone for it. I think the same thing on the FG attemp that was muffed on the 4 yd line in the first half. Come on Wasson - Play like you have the horses and are a champion!!

[Phoenixrising05]

4 and 16 on Keller 35 - If Wasson was confident or wanted to light a fire, he should have gone for it. I think the same thing on the FG attemp that was muffed on the 4 yd line in the first half. Come on Wasson - Play like you have the horses and are a champion!!


Very true!!

[Phoenixrising05]

Seriously this secondary is making as sick as this virus....3 & 10 you KNOW they're going to throw and you still let them connnect??!?! is this Carroll??

[Phoenixrising05]

When is the last time Carroll played this poorly? (I don't think it has been this year)

[Dragon4709]

When is the last time Carroll played this poorly? (I don't think it has been this year)

oh oh oh i know i know..... the first half!!!!

[slc1knight]

This just shows how much Tomlim is missed. He is the heart and soul of this defense. Without his blitzes in the Colleyville game, it could have been close. We really miss him among the others that are missing. No excuse - just a fact that we are not deep.

[Phoenixrising05]

oh oh oh i know i know..... the first half!!!!

lolol

[Phoenixrising05]

This just shows how much Tomlim is missed. He is the heart and soul of this defense. Without his blitzes in the Colleyville game, it could have been close. We really miss him among the others that are missing. No excuse - just a fact that we are not deep.

is he supposed to be back for the grapevine game?

[sportsfan79]

Score?

[Phoenixrising05]

Score?

Carroll 21
Keller 13

but Keller 4 & 10 at our 34

[Phoenixrising05]

PHEW sacked for a loss of 10

[slc1knight]

is he supposed to be back for the grapevine game?

It will be close. Originally he was supposed to be out until playoffs but the guy is such a competitor I heard he may play earlier.

PS -Thanks Tre.

[Phoenixrising05]

WOW we needed that...Newton 50 yards into the endzone

SC 28
KH 13

3:28 3rdQ

[Phoenixrising05]

On a 4th and 1 from their OWN 28...Keller is possibly going for it :confused: :puke

[Dragon4709]

k now we need our D to step up big time

[Phoenixrising05]

:eek:yep going for it

[Phoenixrising05]

BUT they get flagged with false start! so will now punt

[Dragon4709]

BUT they get flagged with false start! so will now punt

god i love when the zebras are on our team:D

[Dds115]

god i love when the zebras are on our team:D

I heard 50% of ticket sales goes to paying off the refs ;)

[Phoenixrising05]

did we also leave our offensive line at home tonight??? how many sacks is that for dodge? this is absolutely absurd

[Texas Bob]

god i love when the zebras are on our team:D

thats a classless thing to say.

[Dragon4709]

thats a classless this to say.

k im sorry no more jokes

[Phoenixrising05]

k im sorry no more jokes

aside from the way teh team is playign tonight??

[Dragon4709]

aside from the way teh team is playign tonight??

yeah the way they are playing tonight deserves A LOT of jokes

[Phoenixrising05]

is that the 3rd or 4th 3rd & 10 Keller has converted?

[Phoenixrising05]

GOOD JOB D!!! Just do it once more! This is the stop we neeeeeeeded

[Dragon4709]

maybe we should let them gain a few yards on 1st and 2nd down that way they wont convert so many 3rd and 10 on us! we might stand a better chance at stoping them

[Phoenixrising05]

PHEW on a 4th & 17 at their own 48 Keller goes for it and incomplete :rolleyes:

[Dragon4709]

PHEW on a 4th & 17 at their own 48 Keller goes for it and incomplete :rolleyes:

ok nevermind forget what i just wrote, i like this idea better

[Phoenixrising05]

For once I agree with the commentator....run the ball don't throw it...give the d a breather!

[Phoenixrising05]

Dodge to Cunningham TD

SC 35
KH 13

8:05 4thQ

[Dragon4709]

For once I agree with the commentator....run the ball don't throw it...give the d a breather!

well they ran it a few times at least on that drive

[Phoenixrising05]

in the last two minutes Keller has had an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and personal foul penalty...not cool

[Dragon4709]

in the last two minutes Keller has had an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and personal foul penalty...not cool

i might have a joke but then i might get yelled at again and grounded:(! so insted i will agree not cool

[Dragon4709]

penaltys dont hurt them if they can come back and throw for 20 something yards:mad:

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller 2 & 10 at the Dragon 41

We need to hold them, and put 1 more TD on the board to make this a respectable score...i'm amazed how poorly this defense has played tonight...I feel like 5 weeks worth of improvement has completely vanished!

[Texas Bob]

i might have a joke but then i might get yelled at again and grounded:(! so insted i will agree not cool

If you have a great program a lot of folks think you didnt earn it fairly. Those are the kinds of jokes to avoid.

[Phoenixrising05]

Keller down to the 25 now :Censor: :mad:

[Phoenixrising05]

3rd & 12 at the Dragon 27

[Phoenixrising05]

Interception!!!! Phew!!

[Dragon4709]

If you have a great program a lot of folks think you didnt earn it fairly. Those are the kinds of jokes to avoid.

i agree but thats not really what i was going for but if that is the way it sounded then i apologize. Because this team and every team before them has practiced hard and worked hard and def. deserves their success.

[Phoenixrising05]

I think the commentators are giving Keller WAAAAAAAy too much credit. It has sounded more to me that our guys were just having a super off night. Heopfully DrEdward and some of the guys can give us a better read when they get home tonight

[bleedblue]

Keller vs. SLC always seems to be closer than other 5-5A games... why?

[Texas Bob]

I think the commentators are giving Keller WAAAAAAAy too much credit. It has sounded more to me that our guys were just having a super off night. Heopfully DrEdward and some of the guys can give us a better read when they get home tonight

You guys need to learn a little humility. Like Katy :p (Now that 's a joke.)

[Phoenixrising05]

You guys need to learn a little humility. Like Katy :p (Now that 's a joke.)

lol thanks for the clarification

[Phoenixrising05]

SC 42
KH 13

2:00 4thQ

[Phoenixrising05]

Final.

Anyone who went to the game able to comment? I think my opinions were somewhat jaded with the hourly trip to the bathroom :puke

[Dragon4709]

i think the final score makes it seem like a lot better game for us then it really was

[drgnbkr]

Shut them out in the second half..Riley was pretty much unstoppable, Tre was often untouched when he ran..Dragons failed to score twice when inside the 5..it could have been a lot worse.

[Dragon4709]

Shut them out in the second half..Riley was pretty much unstoppable, Tre was often untouched when he ran..Dragons failed to score twice when inside the 5..it could have been a lot worse.

Riley did sound like he had a pretty good game besides the sacks which are more th O line then him. only so much scrambling a QB can do, and Tre to had a good night with some good runs at key times (this is all just based off what i have read could not listen to game :mad:)

[SLC93]

500 yards of offense, 42 points scored, 13 points allowed, second half shutout......exactly what else would y'all like? It can always be better & the kids will go to work again tomorrow morning. Enjoy the progression!

[Dragon4709]

500 yards of offense, 49 points scored, 13 points allowed, second half shutout......exactly what else would y'all like? It can always be better & the kids will go to work again tomorrow morning. Enjoy the progression!

Exactly i am never satisfied and niether should the kids, there is always room for improvement and i think the coaches and team will look at them film and come monday morning go right back to work and get ready for Thurdays.

[Phoenixrising05]

Exactly i am never satisfied and niether should the kids, there is always room for improvement and i think the coaches and team will look at them film and come monday morning go right back to work and get ready for Thurdays.

Geesh this season is flying by...I can't believe it's already the grapevine game :confused: :eek:

[Dragon4709]

Geesh this season is flying by...I can't believe it's already the grapevine game :confused: :eek:

i know it seems like 7 on 7 was last weekend

[Grapeguy]

Kellar never had good field position all night. This permitted SLC to play a bend don't break kind of D. Keller ran 13 more plays than we did (71 vs. 58). Personally, I thought the D did a pretty good job overall..particularly in the 2nd half. Remember, we still have three starters out on that side of the ball including Tomlin.

[DrEdward]

I agree that the Carroll defense didn't look all that sharp in the first half particularly. Certainly missing two good linebackers had a good deal to do with that. (And, by the way, I don't believe either one will be back for Grapevine or Richland.) But in the second half, things looked a bit better. As we all knew going into the season, the Carroll secondary lost several D-1 type starters from last year. No one expected the same quality to emerge from this year's secondary and please don't take that as an insult to these kids. But one result is that the backs give much more of a cushion to the receivers. With the starting linebackers hurt, that opens up the middle of the field a bit more for a team like Keller. And, to its credit, Keller exploited that with a number of QB draws and scramles as well as short passes. Keller looked pretty good running th ball to me as well as looking okay passing. Don't sell the Indians short. The largest change int he second half seemed that the Carroll defense adopted a more aggressive defense, playing the Keller receivers tighter and decidedly gettin a more effect pressure on the QB in the Keller backfield, rather than trying to simply defend the line. Despite all the negatives one could whine about (and I have been known to do so) the Dragons defense did not give up a whole lot of points this evening. (But Lordy, we have to get better at tackling!) Again, the Keller offense also deserves some credit for its role tonight.

[Dragon4709]

thanks Dr. for all the insight to the game for us that could not be there to really see what happened and how both teams played. Listening to the radio or reading about the game online doesn't tell you nearly as much about a game or a team as actually being there

[Drgnlady]

Dr. E nailed it. Keller marched it down the field but we held when it mattered. O seemed a little overconfident and not quite sharp enough in the first half. As always, second half saw huge improvement esp. in defense. The game seemed pretty close and intense for 3 quarters. And man, do they have some big boys next door.

[Dragon4709]

was our O line playing bad or were they just getting really good penatration? Bc Riley got sacked a few times.

[eagleike]

Southlake won big
Keller sucks

End of story

[maxtor]

I think Kellers coach deserves some sort of medal. It's so refreshing to finally see a coach to not be afraid to think outside the box. 4th and 15? No problem, go for it. Whats going to happen if they fail? SLC get the ball! Finally a coach that can see that being behind by 15 with 5 minutes to play and giving the ball back to SLC is simply not good. Big cogs. It could have worked. Keller made several 3rd and longs.

[DragonFan]

Keller came ready to play tonight! SLC looked a little bored in the first half. The crowd was bored, and SLC could not even coordinate the run through the inflatiable Helmet correctly with a handfull running through and the rest of the team just barely out of the dressing room. I knew then that this was going to be an unfamiluar night with all sorts of wierdness going on.

SLC played flat but still took Keller out in convincing fashion. Keller was fired up until the last couple of minutes left in the game when the game was really out of reach. The keller crowd stayed and watched the gallant play of the Indians while most of the SLC crowd started leaving after SLC got up by 21.

If Grapevine plays with the intensity of Keller then this could be a very tough game.

[Dragon4709]

oh you know Grapevine will come in fired up! i dont think i have ever been to a carroll/grapevine game where there was not a lot of intensity on both sides. just lately we have had the answer and it will be more of the same come thursday. im looking forward to a great game

[SLC13]

was our O line playing bad or were they just getting really good penatration? Bc Riley got sacked a few times.
Riley had plenty of time to throw tonight when he stayed in the pocket. He ran himself into a couple sacks when he was rolling out and then tried to reverse his field.

As others have said, the team looked flat in the first half and Keller came to play. They had a really innovative offensive gameplan that worked pretty well, fortunately they had a long field most of the night.

We have lots to work on before next week and the playoffs. The coaches can start with game intensity and continue with press coverage, tackling, and lastly our newest problem, center snaps. There must have been 5-6 low ones tonight that short-hopped Riley, our punter and the FG holder. :eek::confused:

[Dragon4709]

Riley had plenty of time to throw tonight when he stayed in the pocket. He ran himself into a couple sacks when he was rolling out and then tried to reverse his field.

As others have said, the team looked flat in the first half and Keller came to play. They had a really innovative offensive gameplan that worked pretty well, fortunately they had a long field most of the night.

We have lots to work on before next week and the playoffs. The coaches can start with game intensity and continue with press coverage, tackling, and lastly our newest problem, center snaps. There must have been 5-6 low ones tonight that short-hopped Riley, our punter and the FG holder. :eek::confused:

thanks for all the info

[Phoenixrising05]

thanks for all the info

Second that

[Dragon4709]

Second that

lol did you stop throwing up long enough to get back on?:D

[Phoenixrising05]

lol did you stop throwing up long enough to get back on?:D

lol yeah i got over the 6 hour mark so was able to take some more meds :D i was ooooooooooooout of it earlier haha as you saw I tried to post the play by plays and kept missing them so gave up...my dad was actually at another football game (Faith Christian) so he wasn't too upset

The best thing to take from tonight IMHO, is that even on an "off" night...we can still win 42-13. Not bad!

[Phoenixrising05]

I agree that the Carroll defense didn't look all that sharp in the first half particularly. Certainly missing two good linebackers had a good deal to do with that. (And, by the way, I don't believe either one will be back for Grapevine or Richland.) But in the second half, things looked a bit better. As we all knew going into the season, the Carroll secondary lost several D-1 type starters from last year. No one expected the same quality to emerge from this year's secondary and please don't take that as an insult to these kids. But one result is that the backs give much more of a cushion to the receivers. With the starting linebackers hurt, that opens up the middle of the field a bit more for a team like Keller. And, to its credit, Keller exploited that with a number of QB draws and scramles as well as short passes. Keller looked pretty good running th ball to me as well as looking okay passing. Don't sell the Indians short. The largest change int he second half seemed that the Carroll defense adopted a more aggressive defense, playing the Keller receivers tighter and decidedly gettin a more effect pressure on the QB in the Keller backfield, rather than trying to simply defend the line. Despite all the negatives one could whine about (and I have been known to do so) the Dragons defense did not give up a whole lot of points this evening. (But Lordy, we have to get better at tackling!) Again, the Keller offense also deserves some credit for its role tonight.

That could def haunt us in the Gvine game as they looove to run that ball.

[Dragon4709]

lol yeah i got over the 6 hour mark so was able to take some more meds :D i was ooooooooooooout of it earlier haha as you saw I tried to post the play by plays and kept missing them so gave up...my dad was actually at another football game (Faith Christian) so he wasn't too upset

The best thing to take from tonight IMHO, is that even on an "off" night...we can still win 42-13. Not bad!

yeah you were not your usual self when it came to play by play, so i used the prepcastlive thing and you and everyone else on here just provided the color comentary.

yeah im happy if on a "off" night we only give up 13 lets just hope we dont have to many more off night

[ScottS]

4 and 16 on Keller 35 - If Wasson was confident or wanted to light a fire, he should have gone for it. I think the same thing on the FG attemp that was muffed on the 4 yd line in the first half. Come on Wasson - Play like you have the horses and are a champion!!

I was disappointed we punted at this point. Either go for it or give Foster a chance to hit a big one.

[green day]

(But Lordy, we have to get better at tackling!)

I struggle with this obvious weakness. Tough runners ( like Mullins this week) love the defense to tackle high, up near the shoulder pads. We simply tackle too high.

Why? It's taught. I've been told previous coching philosophy that we maintain today has been to avoid the higher risk of head and neck injury of tackling low. Bravo, if that's the truth but not sure I buy that one. Wrapping up the legs, head upright, using your shoulders and driving thru the man is really no more risky and typically ends the play as the whistle will soon be blown.

What we do ( sometimes) looks like our legal tackling technique in the annual Turkey Bowl. Jump on his back and ride 'em down. I just wonder what a little more focus on wrapping up the legs this week might do to improve.

( Case in point- we're not alone ,think about how often Tre just slides to the outside, stiffarming tacklers who are reaching up to him and continuing on. He can't do that if they head for them legs.)

[shark bait]

500 yards of offense, 42 points scored, 13 points allowed, second half shutout......exactly what else would y'all like? It can always be better & the kids will go to work again tomorrow morning. Enjoy the progression!Thank You

[Sakatha]

I was disappointed we punted at this point. Either go for it or give Foster a chance to hit a big one.

I could do without the guy that stood up and screamed 'Good job WASSON!' after the botched FG. Whether you like Hal or not, it's pretty ridiculous really. I think there are better places to voice frustration.

~DnM

p.s. Losing the best HS coach in America sucks. We all feel that frustration.

[fluffy_bunny]

Keller came ready to play tonight! SLC looked a little bored in the first half. The crowd was bored, and SLC could not even coordinate the run through the inflatiable Helmet correctly with a handfull running through and the rest of the team just barely out of the dressing room. I knew then that this was going to be an unfamiluar night with all sorts of wierdness going on.

SLC played flat but still took Keller out in convincing fashion. Keller was fired up until the last couple of minutes left in the game when the game was really out of reach. The keller crowd stayed and watched the gallant play of the Indians while most of the SLC crowd started leaving after SLC got up by 21.

If Grapevine plays with the intensity of Keller then this could be a very tough game.

I'll agree with all that (except we stayed until the end, something we do at home games, but not usually away games as we have a little one that pretty much drops after 9pm). To me (and I'm no football aficionado), our defense wasn't the problem - especially after the first half. The offense just looked like they didn't care much of the time.

This is our first year going to the games, and after district play started, it seems like all the fans are bored. Folks in the stands near me were ripping Riley Dodge a new one last night. And yes, many many people left on the Dragon side - and it was refreshing to see the Keller side remain full and energetic. The Indians certainly had the crowd on their side. I coach girl youth sports, and I tell the parents the fans in the stand can make all the difference in a game.

I also think from now on, I won't be going when it's "Youth Football Night" - there was a pack of really loud (yes, I know it's a football game, they were too loud for a football game and at inappropriate times) kids - and the parents with those kids did nothing to settle them down.

[dragons08]

I struggle with this obvious weakness. Tough runners ( like Mullins this week) love the defense to tackle high, up near the shoulder pads. We simply tackle too high.

Why? It's taught. I've been told previous coching philosophy that we maintain today has been to avoid the higher risk of head and neck injury of tackling low. Bravo, if that's the truth but not sure I buy that one. Wrapping up the legs, head upright, using your shoulders and driving thru the man is really no more risky and typically ends the play as the whistle will soon be blown.

What we do ( sometimes) looks like our legal tackling technique in the annual Turkey Bowl. Jump on his back and ride 'em down. I just wonder what a little more focus on wrapping up the legs this week might do to improve.

( Case in point- we're not alone ,think about how often Tre just slides to the outside, stiffarming tacklers who are reaching up to him and continuing on. He can't do that if they head for them legs.)

My bro plays DB and QB, and he was saying they teach them to go in around waisit maybe a little lower, wrap up, keep head i guess up? cant remember exactly, and drive them to ground. It looks as if some of the varsity players are grabbing shoulders, or just going for the "shoulder pop" big hit type play. Annoys the crap out of me.

[dragons08]

I'll agree with all that (except we stayed until the end, something we do at home games, but not usually away games as we have a little one that pretty much drops after 9pm). To me (and I'm no football aficionado), our defense wasn't the problem - especially after the first half. The offense just looked like they didn't care much of the time.

This is our first year going to the games, and after district play started, it seems like all the fans are bored. Folks in the stands near me were ripping Riley Dodge a new one last night. And yes, many many people left on the Dragon side - and it was refreshing to see the Keller side remain full and energetic. The Indians certainly had the crowd on their side. I coach girl youth sports, and I tell the parents the fans in the stand can make all the difference in a game.

I also think from now on, I won't be going when it's "Youth Football Night" - there was a pack of really loud (yes, I know it's a football game, they were too loud for a football game and at inappropriate times) kids - and the parents with those kids did nothing to settle them down.

Man welcome to Dragon Nation. The kids have their own football games at the football game in one of the "grassy knolls". Yes, we have a ton of spirit, but aren't into it as much as we should be. We're spoiled.

Once playoffs start up, and games get closer, Dragon Nation comes to life, gets into it, and becomes very loud. Plus we break out the big 'ol air horn. That always adds some noise!

Plus the band gets bigger, as does cheerleaders and drill team. Plus more 'casual' fans show up.

[BigRing5311]

I could do without the guy that stood up and screamed 'Good job WASSON!' after the botched FG. Whether you like Hal or not, it's pretty ridiculous really. I think there are better places to voice frustration.

~DnM

p.s. Losing the best HS coach in America sucks. We all feel that frustration.

Probably the same guy I heard at the Colleyville game. We had a short discussion on whether he would like move to New York or keep his mouth shut and live in Southlake. Guess he's decided to sale his house.

[ScottS]

I could do without the guy that stood up and screamed 'Good job WASSON!' after the botched FG. Whether you like Hal or not, it's pretty ridiculous really. I think there are better places to voice frustration.

~DnM

p.s. Losing the best HS coach in America sucks. We all feel that frustration.

The one I'm talking about is where our drive stopped at the 34. I thought the FG try was the correct call on the drive you're talking about.

[SLCDad]

The one I'm talking about is where our drive stopped at the 34. I thought the FG try was the correct call on the drive you're talking about.

I thought the punt was the correct call. Perhaps I'm the only poster who thinks so.

SLC had the lead. A FG try would have been a 51 yarder with little chance of success. If Foster misses the 51 yarder they give Keller good field position and momemtum. SLC had a much better chance of pinning Keller back deep in their own territory with the punt. Worst case, Keller is at the 20 (which is what happened). SLC dominated the game after that play and Keller was forced to take some chances and all of them failed or backfired.

The punt was the correct call in that situation. No need for SLC to take any chances at all.

[maxtor]

The one I'm talking about is where our drive stopped at the 34. I thought the FG try was the correct call on the drive you're talking about.

SLC had a 4th and 14 at the 34. I must say that I wasn't to fond of the decision to punt. In essence yore trading about a 50/50 chance at converting the first down for giving the ball to Keller at the 15-20 yard line.

Seriously, whats the down side of a failed first down attempt? Give the ball to Keller at the 34 as opposed to the 15-20!

SLC could have completed a pass just short of the first down at the 20(happens often). Not much difference.

SLC could have made more than the first down.

SLC could have scored a TD from the 34 which happens pretty regular.

Giving Keller the ball at the 34 just isn't that big of a deal compared to the 15-20 yard line.

Converting=Big deal with a 50/50 chance.

Giving Keller a 15 yard longer field=no big deal.

I almost wanted to go give Wasson some pointers but it would have cut into my hot dog and nacho frenzy.:Music

[DrEdward]

The one I'm talking about is where our drive stopped at the 34. I thought the FG try was the correct call on the drive you're talking about.

I was a bit surprised by the call, even though it would have meant a 51 yard field goal attempt. True that Foster certainly has the leg strength to make such an attempt, but it's still half a football field away. Punting is certainly the more conservative approach and there is nothing wrong with taking that route under last night's game conditions. While the ball made it into the end zoe, it was almost downed by a Carroll defender at the one. Had that happened, it would have been a brillant call. But, there is no need to do a what-if on this one. The decision to punt was not all that unreasonable.

[SLCDad]

SLC had a 4th and 14 at the 34. I must say that I wasn't to fond of the decision to punt. In essence yore trading about a 50/50 chance at converting the first down for giving the ball to Keller at the 15-20 yard line.

Seriously, whats the down side of a failed first down attempt? Give the ball to Keller at the 34 as opposed to the 15-20!

SLC could have completed a pass just short of the first down at the 20(happens often). Not much difference.

SLC could have made more than the first down.

SLC could have scored a TD from the 34 which happens pretty regular.

Giving Keller the ball at the 34 just isn't that big of a deal compared to the 15-20 yard line.

Converting=Big deal with a 50/50 chance.

Giving Keller a 15 yard longer field=no big deal.

I almost wanted to go give Wasson some pointers but it would have cut into my hot dog and nacho frenzy.:Music

50/50 chance? Seems a little generous to me.

I say the punt was the correct call. SLC had the lead. No need to take any chances at all. If Riley tosses an incomplete pass Keller gets the ball on the 34 PLUS the momentum shifts to Keller. Giving the ball to them at the 20 (which was the worst case scenario on the punt) kept the momentum with SLC and gave Keller an 80 yard field. Not much chance of success for Keller after that.

[BigJim331]

...gotta' shore up the play at CB or we are toast. Starting a play by giving a 7-10 yard cushion and then jumping into a backpedal at the snap is a recipe for disaster. The second half was much better but I felt like we took three steps back last night.

And for those that thought the Offense was sleepwalking, I would say you weren't watching the same game I was. The Brainard long catch and his TD, Freeman's catch and then the hit he took and still held on, Cunningham's catches, Tre', Riley, Cantu. Heck, even the O-line was getting into the action. Sorry, but I thought the O was anything but flat.

Short week for a game that decides the district champion. And for the record....I hate TV games....

[Drgnlady]

I'll agree with all that (except we stayed until the end, something we do at home games, but not usually away games as we have a little one that pretty much drops after 9pm). To me (and I'm no football aficionado), our defense wasn't the problem - especially after the first half. The offense just looked like they didn't care much of the time.

This is our first year going to the games, and after district play started, it seems like all the fans are bored. Folks in the stands near me were ripping Riley Dodge a new one last night. And yes, many many people left on the Dragon side - and it was refreshing to see the Keller side remain full and energetic. The Indians certainly had the crowd on their side. I coach girl youth sports, and I tell the parents the fans in the stand can make all the difference in a game.

I also think from now on, I won't be going when it's "Youth Football Night" - there was a pack of really loud (yes, I know it's a football game, they were too loud for a football game and at inappropriate times) kids - and the parents with those kids did nothing to settle them down.

I agree our fans were pretty quiet last night. I think most of us were a bit shocked by the first half not playing out the way we expected. But then the crowd is pretty quiet during the blowout games, too. I've enjoyed away games more where you're surrounded by loyal fans. I couldn't believe people would leave last night's game at half-time.

As for the QB critiques, we all know RD is a phenom but I also think we've all seen enough of RD turning and running 180-degrees from the goalposts usually with the ball held out from his body. But at least it means those fans are paying attention!

[ScottS]

Giving the ball to them at the 20 (which was the worst case scenario on the punt) kept the momentum with SLC and gave Keller an 80 yard field. Not much chance of success for Keller after that.

Did you see the Haltom punt that hit one of their OLs and then bounced backwards?:D

[maxtor]

50/50 chance? Seems a little generous to me.

I say the punt was the correct call. SLC had the lead. No need to take any chances at all. If Riley tosses an incomplete pass Keller gets the ball on the 34 PLUS the momentum shifts to Keller. Giving the ball to them at the 20 (which was the worst case scenario on the punt) kept the momentum with SLC and gave Keller an 80 yard field. Not much chance of success for Keller after that.

Not to belabor the point but Dodge averaged completing 80% of his passes which gained an average of 12 1/2 yards a catch.

[ScottS]

Not to belabor the point but Dodge averaged completing 80% of his passes which gained an average of 12 1/2 yards a catch.

Does Foster have the range for 51?

[SLC93]

Does Foster have the range for 51?

:puke:D;)

[Memorial76]

What happened to the days of no matter what the other team said or did Southlake just kept playing? Seems there are too many hot dogs in Dragon land! This was the sloppiest game I have ever seen the Dragons play. What ever happened to improving every game?

[SLC93]

What happened to the days of no matter what the other team said or did Southlake just kept playing? Seems there are too many hot dogs in Dragon land! This was the sloppiest game I have ever seen the Dragons play. What ever happened to improving every game?

I'm waiting to see who the stone cold leader is on this team. The one that just stares down the player that is acting out until he falls in. This team could real use the demeanor that Padron/Russo brought every game last season.

[maxtor]

What happened to the days of no matter what the other team said or did Southlake just kept playing? Seems there are too many hot dogs in Dragon land! This was the sloppiest game I have ever seen the Dragons play. What ever happened to improving every game?

SLC did have their share of sloppy moments. Then again, that goes to show how good SLC is. They can have a sloppy game while the other team plays over their head and SLC still wins 42-13. SLC has had several of these games every year during their 5A run.
One thing is for sure is they need to put together complete games against the Texas elite.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I'm waiting to see who the stone cold leader is on this team.

I don't know, but it's week 9... if it's going to happen, it's about that time.

[drgnbkr]

I'm waiting to see who the stone cold leader is on this team. The one that just stares down the player that is acting out until he falls in. This team could real use the demeanor that Padron/Russo brought every game last season.

Tomlin.....Coming back at the right time...The dragons are going to be peaking at the right time....

[SLC93]

Tomlin.....Coming back at the right time...The dragons are going to be peaking at the right time....

I'm feelin the same way. This season has been difficult to get a feel for with all the new coaches, tv appearances and injuries. I think it's a great reflection of Wasson's influence that the team is progressing despite all of that.

[drgnsbrth]

I'm feelin the same way. This season has been difficult to get a feel for with all the new coaches, tv appearances and injuries. I think it's a great reflection of Wasson's influence that the team is progressing despite all of that.

AMEN! If the season ends up like we wish it would, i.e. state championship, we will be blessed. I am amazed at the progression we have made despite all of the setbacks!

[dragons08]

Tomlin.....Coming back at the right time...The dragons are going to be peaking at the right time....

I'd say Derek defintaly and Robert Prigmore. Prigmore leads the charge, always congradulating players. Even comes over and says great job to some of us band kids and parents.

I'd also classify Kyle Padron as a leader. Despite not playing much, he is ALWAYS trying to pump up teammates, getting them pumped up, etc. He is going to be a GREAT field general.

[dragons08]

...gotta' shore up the play at CB or we are toast. Starting a play by giving a 7-10 yard cushion and then jumping into a backpedal at the snap is a recipe for disaster. The second half was much better but I felt like we took three steps back last night.

And for those that thought the Offense was sleepwalking, I would say you weren't watching the same game I was. The Brainard long catch and his TD, Freeman's catch and then the hit he took and still held on, Cunningham's catches, Tre', Riley, Cantu. Heck, even the O-line was getting into the action. Sorry, but I thought the O was anything but flat.

Short week for a game that decides the district champion. And for the record....I hate TV games....

That was pissing the hell out of me. But when you're missing two starting LB's that make big plays, and some other players because of injuries, etc. It causes you to do a 'bend dont break' type defense, which was the case. The defense defitnaly, stepped up as keller got into dragon territory

[SLCDad]

What happened to the days of no matter what the other team said or did Southlake just kept playing? Seems there are too many hot dogs in Dragon land! This was the sloppiest game I have ever seen the Dragons play. What ever happened to improving every game?

I think it's easy to look at prior years through rose colored glasses. SLC played plenty of sub-par games over the last 5 years. Because of the team's ultimate success, we tend to forget how tough the road was along the way. This year is no different.

[SLCDad]

Not to belabor the point but Dodge averaged completing 80% of his passes which gained an average of 12 1/2 yards a catch.Perhaps, but 4th and 14 is very different. The whole stadium would know what would be coming which make the chances drop considerably.

[Memorial76]

I'm waiting to see who the stone cold leader is on this team. The one that just stares down the player that is acting out until he falls in. This team could real use the demeanor that Padron/Russo brought every game last season.

Very well said!

[Memorial76]

I think it's easy to look at prior years through rose colored glasses. SLC played plenty of sub-par games over the last 5 years. Because of the team's ultimate success, we tend to forget how tough the road was along the way. This year is no different.

The Dragons have always executed better than any other team. I see them struggling with composure. It does say a lot that they can play that poorly and win 42-13. All teams have their own personality, perhaps the 07 personality is living on the edge. I think Tre's 50 yard run is a perfect example: Bad snap, Reilly keeps fumbling the ball as he is running with it, barely pitches it to Tre and Tre takes it to the house. Reminded me of a Chinese fire drill not Southlake execution.

[JustADad]

What happened to the days of no matter what the other team said or did Southlake just kept playing? Seems there are too many hot dogs in Dragon land! This was the sloppiest game I have ever seen the Dragons play. What ever happened to improving every game?

Perfection doesn't happen at any level of football. The good/great teams win in spite of sloppy games and all other things that happen during a football season. If you don't think this team is improving with each game then you are not looking close enough or looking for the wrong things. For example, the OL is improving each game. It's reflected in an improved running game. I don't think the offense has peaked yet. The defense may be close to being as good as they will be for this season but I believe they are good enough to defend a state championship. The combination of a very potent offense and an adequate defense should be a good recipe for a deep run into the playoffs and another possible championship.

[SLC93]

Perfection doesn't happen at any level of football. The good/great teams win in spite of sloppy games and all other things that happen during a football season. If you don't think this team is improving with each game then you are not looking close enough or looking for the wrong things. For example, the OL is improving each game. It's reflected in an improved running game. I don't think the offense has peaked yet. The defense may be close to being as good as they will be for this season but I believe they are good enough to defend a state championship. The combination of a very potent offense and an adequate defense should be a good recipe for a deep run into the playoffs and another possible championship.

Excellent summation.

[JustADad]

IMO it was great that the first team was on the field for most of the game. Having to make decisions on whether to punt or kick a FG are good situations for this team and coaching staff under game conditions. It's better to 'rehearse' now vs. in the playoffs. What else is the regular season for anyway:confused::):D I just don't think this team can be judged until the playoffs. I'm on board for the ride.

[Memorial76]

Perfection doesn't happen at any level of football. The good/great teams win in spite of sloppy games and all other things that happen during a football season. If you don't think this team is improving with each game then you are not looking close enough or looking for the wrong things. For example, the OL is improving each game. It's reflected in an improved running game. I don't think the offense has peaked yet. The defense may be close to being as good as they will be for this season but I believe they are good enough to defend a state championship. The combination of a very potent offense and an adequate defense should be a good recipe for a deep run into the playoffs and another possible championship.

The O-Line has improved. I do think there will be games that the Defense will have to win. This week will be a good tast.