Week 7: South Grand Prairie vs. L.D. Bell

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Ok folks, this is a HUGE match-up for SGP and L.D. Bell. Both teams need this win for a possible playoff birth. If SGP wins this game, then they will most likely need to just beat Nimitz to solidify themselves in the playoffs. That is not a 100% garuantee, but it would majorly help us out! Anyways, I was not able to attend the game between SGP and Irving, so I was not able see if our offense is continuing to improve. From what the stats on Sedric Bates are showing, it looks like we are (128 rushing yds, 102 passing yds--thanks SGP3 for those stats). Also, he had no turnovers which is a major plus! Ok guys, let's get this discussion going. We all know how bad both of these teams need this win...oh and to add a little sumthin sumthin to the mix, this is SGP's homecoming.

[sgp3]

I think SGP wins this game because of the crowd:Music:D Can we get the band to strike up a tune:Music
Ok folks, this is a HUGE match-up for SGP and L.D. Bell. Both teams need this win for a possible playoff birth. If SGP wins this game, then they will most likely need to just beat Nimitz to solidify themselves in the playoffs. That is not a 100% garuantee, but it would majorly help us out! Anyways, I was not able to attend the game between SGP and Irving, so I was not able see if our offense is continuing to improve. From what the stats on Sedric Bates are showing, it looks like we are (128 rushing yds, 102 passing yds--thanks SGP3 for those stats). Also, he had no turnovers which is a major plus! Ok guys, let's get this discussion going. We all know how bad both of these teams need this win...oh and to add a little sumthin sumthin to the mix, this is SGP's homecoming.

[hollywood]

It is good to see LD Bell on the upswing these days. They played a heckuva game versus a very tough IMac team this past Thursday. I am thankful we are hosting the Blue Raiders at the Warrior bowl this year. The journey is theirs. We will need every advantage we can get. I think on the facts Bell is the favored team. SGP will have to play well in all phases of the game to come out with a W. This has to be the best game of the year to this point for SGP to win. I am very hopeful and encouraged by recent efforts. I am very much in the mode of Just Win Baby, especially with this game. This is the proverbial pivotal game for these two teams.

SGP takes care of business.:mad:

Warriors 24
Raiders- 21

[hollywood]

I think SGP wins this game because of the crowd Can we get the band to strike up a tune:Music


Memo to Band:

The band needs to :Censor:ing get with it.:mad::mad::mad:

[The Warrior]

I say it will be close, and the kicker will make up for all the misses this season, with one at the end.

SGP 24
Bell 21

[sgp3]

We will hope it don't come down to that the way he being kicking on the season:eek:
I say it will be close, and the kicker will make up for all the misses this season, with one at the end.

SGP 24
Bell 21

[hollywood]

We will hope it don't come down to that the way he being kicking on the season:eek:This was a very strong part of our game in the past. Same kicker ...:confused:

[The Warrior]

10/15/07 Is A Big Day For The Household, A Player Could Be Back At Practice 10/16/07. Hoping For Good News From Mr. Polifrone

[sgp3]

I think he read his press clipping from last year because this year he been off his game:D
This was a very strong part of our game in the past. Same kicker ...:confused:

[sgp3]

That good news but #40 been holding it down for real. He the best DL we have had all year.
10/15/07 Is A Big Day For The Household, A Player Could Be Back At Practice 10/16/07. Hoping For Good News From Mr. Polifrone

[The Warrior]

That good news but #40 been holding it down for real. He the best DL we have had all year.


He plays on the OL on his return, so #40 can do his thing. I don't like #40 and #90 switching in and out, let #40 play more plays.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

My take is this...

I believe SGP's defense is slightly better than IMACs, so I believe it could be under 20 points, but not to sure. I will actually go border lined with the "20" mark.

SGP 21
L.D. Bell 20

Yeah, it will be that close.

[sgp3]

I will agree with that, :eek: he going O-line that a good thing give him some traps plays:D #74 and #75 together now we talking
He plays on the OL on his return, so #40 can do his thing. I don't like #40 and #90 switching in and out, let #40 play more plays.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I will agree with that, :eek: he going O-line that a good thing give him some traps plays:D #74 and #75 together now we talking

That is awesome! More protection is definitely needed!!!

[hollywood]

I think he read his press clipping from last year because this year he been off his game:DI don't know. His kickoffs seem pretty good. He may not be getting the time to kick he has had in the past.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Maybe he could be lifting more at the Y rather than just hanging out. Did I say that? How would I know? No way I would know that.

LOL:rolleyes:

[hollywood]

My take is this...

I believe SGP's defense is slightly better than IMACs, so I believe it could be under 20 points, but not to sure. I will actually go border lined with the "20" mark.

SGP 21
L.D. Bell 20

Yeah, it will be that close.:D

[hollywood]

We are going to need all phases for this game, so I am hoping that the kicking gets back to where it had been. It made a difference the past two years.

[hollywood]

10/15/07 Is A Big Day For The Household, A Player Could Be Back At Practice 10/16/07. Hoping For Good News From Mr. PolifroneHope he has been lifting in his time off the field.

[hollywood]

I think he read his press clipping from last year because this year he been off his game:DI will say this, he has shown great potential and if he were to live up to it could help out some good college program somewhere.

[hollywood]

I will agree with that, :eek: he going O-line that a good thing give him some traps plays:D #74 and #75 together now we talking

Thats what I am talking about! Lets get that rolling.

[1footballnut]

Finally the Blueraider's get a shot at the ever tough SGP Warriors. Over the last few years the Warrior's have put it on us. This Blueraider team seems to have some it problems worked out. IMAC sure showed us that. But the Blueraiders bring some firepower with them and a defense that does not like to give up ground. #5 Deante Piper #7 Tate Holbert #4 Grant Milton #1 Atem Bol #2 Anthony Owasu will be ready for a big game to see who is heading to the playoffs. That's what makes 75A so fun. Let's talk

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Finally the Blueraider's get a shot at the ever tough SGP Warriors. Over the last few years the Warrior's have put it on us. This Blueraider team seems to have some it problems worked out. IMAC sure showed us that. But the Blueraiders bring some firepower with them and a defense that does not like to give up ground. #5 Deante Piper #7 Tate Holbert #4 Grant Milton #1 Atem Bol #2 Anthony Owasu will be ready for a big game to see who is heading to the playoffs. That's what makes 75A so fun. Let's talk

What happened against IMAC:confused::rolleyes:? 35 points is a lot to give up. I have no doubts that IMAC has a solid offense, but still. Although, I heard the game was closer than the score showed.

[hollywood]

Finally the Blueraider's get a shot at the ever tough SGP Warriors. Over the last few years the Warrior's have put it on us. This Blueraider team seems to have some it problems worked out. IMAC sure showed us that. But the Blueraiders bring some firepower with them and a defense that does not like to give up ground. #5 Deante Piper #7 Tate Holbert #4 Grant Milton #1 Atem Bol #2 Anthony Owasu will be ready for a big game to see who is heading to the playoffs. That's what makes 75A so fun. Let's talkSGP has certainly had some success against LD Bell in recent times. But you are very correct, this time they come in with some real weapons. And this time they not only have a great band but a solid football team that could spool the SGP homecoming.

Can we expect a lot of Blue Raider fans at this game? It would really be great if Bell supporters showed up in force.:)

[SGP 06 Alumni]

SGP has certainly had some success against LD Bell in recent times. But you are very correct, this time they come in with some real weapons. And this time they not only have a great band but a solid football team that could spool the SGP homecoming.

Can we expect a lot of Blue Raider fans ast this game? It would really be great if Bell supporters showed up in force.:)

I completely agree. This is going to be a battle on both ends. I too would like to see plenty of Bell supporters at the game.:)

[SUMJAG]

I have said in the past that your only two losses in district would be to Trinity and to my Cardinals.
I say SGP 20 Bell 14

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I have said in the past that your only two losses in district would be to Trinity and to my Cardinals.
I say SGP 20 Bell 14

And I hope you are correct. I would be very pleased with that score you posted. Holding Bell to 14pts would be awesome!

[hollywood]

I have said in the past that your only two losses in district would be to Trinity and to my Cardinals.
I say SGP 20 Bell 14

Wow. I sure hope you are right!:)

This is a pivotal and defining game for both teams. Either team could lose and still make the playoffs, but the winner is sitting mighty good. More importantly it tells us where these teams are at. Bell however showed very well against IMac and could be a real indicator that Bell is for real and should be favored in this matchup.

Hoping SGP wants this one bad and plays lights out.:cool:

[sgp3]

Well with how u make sound with all the weapons L.D. Bell have that mean they are going to blow SGP out.:rolleyes:
Finally the Blueraider's get a shot at the ever tough SGP Warriors. Over the last few years the Warrior's have put it on us. This Blueraider team seems to have some it problems worked out. IMAC sure showed us that. But the Blueraiders bring some firepower with them and a defense that does not like to give up ground. #5 Deante Piper #7 Tate Holbert #4 Grant Milton #1 Atem Bol #2 Anthony Owasu will be ready for a big game to see who is heading to the playoffs. That's what makes 75A so fun. Let's talk

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Well with how u make sound with all the weapons L.D. Bell have that mean they are going to blow SGP out.:rolleyes:

HA!:cool::rolleyes:

Only one team so far has blown us out in our 4 losses, and thats Euless Trinity. Bell is nowhere near as good as Trinity, so there will be no blowouts this week at the Warrior Bowl. NOT IN OUR HOUSE!!:eek::cool:

[sgp3]

WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!:D
HA!:cool::rolleyes:

Only one team so far has blown us out in our 4 losses, and thats Euless Trinity. Bell is nowhere near as good as Trinity, so there will be no blowouts this week at the Warrior Bowl. NOT IN OUR HOUSE!!:eek::cool:

[1footballnut]

Well no reason to bait me.....Bell has alot of respect for Coach Fisher and SGP. Bell has a healthy respect not any fear. Isn't Deante Piper I think is like the second ranked running back in the area with almost a 1000 yards. I will be in the stands and expect a hard fought game from both teams. What I say for the sake of this thread Bell does bring alot of weapons bring your lunch.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

I completely agree. This is going to be a battle on both ends. I too would like to see plenty of Bell supporters at the game.:)

They'll all be at the Trinity vs MacArthur game at Pennington Field.

[hollywood]

They'll all be at the Trinity vs MacArthur game at Pennington Field.LOL

[sgp3]

Bell is just like any other school they still have to line up and play:Censor:
Well no reason to bait me.....Bell has alot of respect for Coach Fisher and SGP. Bell has a healthy respect not any fear. Isn't Deante Piper I think is like the second ranked running back in the area with almost a 1000 yards. I will be in the stands and expect a hard fought game from both teams. What I say for the sake of this thread Bell does bring alot of weapons bring your lunch.

[IMacCards]

HA!:cool::rolleyes:

Only one team so far has blown us out in our 4 losses, and thats Euless Trinity. Bell is nowhere near as good as Trinity, so there will be no blowouts this week at the Warrior Bowl. NOT IN OUR HOUSE!!:eek::cool:

If you want to look at point differential then lets also look at the wins. SGP beat a bad Grand Prairie team by only 14 points and beat a horrible Irving team by 3. This is just not SGP's year and the playoff talk ends after Bell wins this week. Your probably right about it not being a blowout but Bell should take this one.

[hollywood]

If you want to look at point differential then lets also look at the wins. SGP beat a bad Grand Prairie team by only 14 points and beat a horrible Irving team by 3. This is just not SGP's year and the playoff talk ends after Bell wins this week. Your probably right about it not being a blowout but Bell should take this one.SGP does not have to beat Bell to get into the playoffs. So the playoff talk would continue. In fact it may continue thru the result of the 10th game.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

SGP does not have to beat Bell to get into the playoffs. So the playoff talk would continue. In fact it may continue thru the result of the 10th game.

Agreed. Bell and Jesuit are our main targets right now. We beat one of those 2 teams, and we can make the playoffs.

[sgp3]

Well all scores don't really tell the entire story of the game. Irving score a late TD with 1:13 left in the game GP score was really much closer then score really show and remember that was a rivarly game. But do remember SGP still has to play Mac and since I am on the looking outside the boxes right now SGP will play Mac tough and like I said earlier keep sleeping on SGP because you know what they say about what winnings for a team.:D So keep thinking that SGP is not going to make the playoff.
If you want to look at point differential then lets also look at the wins. SGP beat a bad Grand Prairie team by only 14 points and beat a horrible Irving team by 3. This is just not SGP's year and the playoff talk ends after Bell wins this week. Your probably right about it not being a blowout but Bell should take this one.

[sgp3]

THE WARRIORS WILL BEAT L.D. BELL THIS WEEK BOTTOM LINE!!:D

[sgp3]

District 7-5A Football
Team District/Season W L W L Pts Opp
MacArthur 3 0 6 0 224 81
Trinity 3 0 5 1 147 57
L.D. Bell 2 1 4 2 214 141
S Grand Prairie 2 1 2 4 95 127
Jesuit 1 2 3 3 121 115
Gr Prairie 1 2 2 4 101 188
Irving 0 3 1 5 144 180
Nimitz 0 3 0 6 72 125

[sgp3]

Team Defense
School Passing Rushing Avg.
Euless Trinity 682 358 173.4
Irving MacArthur 774 478 208.6
Hurst L.D. Bell 617 860 246.2
South Grand Prairie 897 802 283.2
Jesuit 890 846 289.4
Irving Nimitz 512 1345 309.6
Grand Prairie 1036 858 315.6
Irving 1008 977 330.8

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Alright Warriors, I'm putting my faith in your team to beat Bell this week. Your defense is holding its own and hopefully your offense will be hitting all eight cylinders. I know quite a few people will be sending you good vibes since there's no love lost between Trinity and Bell.

GO WARRIORS

[Resoku]

I'm giving this one to Bell, but it'll be a good game. Bell played pretty good against us last week, but not quite good enough.

And SGP will take the Nimitz game.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I'm giving this one to Bell, but it'll be a good game. Bell played pretty good against us last week, but not quite good enough.

And SGP will take the Nimitz game.

Your right about 2 things, it will be a good game and we will take Nimitz next week. Me being a homer, I am going to disagree with Bell beating SGP. GO WARRIORS!:D

[The Warrior]

Well with how u make sound with all the weapons L.D. Bell have that mean they are going to blow SGP out.:rolleyes:

The heat is on Bell, since we weren't picked to go to the playoffs by anyone, except by 4 people. Hollywood, SGP3, Alum06, and the Warrior. We can toss it around without a care, like Irving did against 45 times. don't be surprized if we have a few weapons of our own.:mad:

[The Warrior]

Alright Warriors, I'm putting my faith in your team to beat Bell this week. Your defense is holding its own and hopefully your offense will be hitting all eight cylinders. I know quite a few people will be sending you good vibes since there's not love lost between Trinity and Bell.

GO WARRIORS

Tell them to stop by for a quick "HAKA" before the game, in front of the Bell fans.:D

[The Warrior]

I'm giving this one to Bell, but it'll be a good game. Bell played pretty good against us last week, but not quite good enough.

And SGP will take the Nimitz game.

There are 4 playoff spots, and only 2 look to be a lock.:) 3 teams for 2 spots are left, and we want one.:mad:

[The Warrior]

THE WARRIORS WILL BEAT L.D. BELL THIS WEEK BOTTOM LINE!!:D

Put that on your bulliten board!:mad:

[hollywood]

Alright Warriors, I'm putting my faith in your team to beat Bell this week. Your defense is holding its own and hopefully your offense will be hitting all eight cylinders. I know quite a few people will be sending you good vibes since there's not love lost between Trinity and Bell.

GO WARRIORS If we are getting the good vibes then we cannot lose.:D

[sgp3]

If MAc can pull off the win over ET they will be a an upset and then hopefully SGP can catch them with the big head. But SGP has to take care of the WARRIOR Bowl on friday night.:D
There are 4 playoff spots, and only 2 look to be a lock.:) 3 teams for 2 spots are left, and we want one.:mad:

[hollywood]

THE WARRIORS WILL BEAT L.D. BELL THIS WEEK BOTTOM LINE!!:D

Oh :Censor:. Ok, so we have to go out and win this one now!:mad:

GO Warriors

[powerofthehaka]

If MAc can pull off the win over ET they will be a an upset and then hopefully SGP can catch them with the big head. But SGP has to take care of the WARRIOR Bowl on friday night.:D

Aint gonna happen.:Censor:

[The Warrior]

If MAc can pull off the win over ET they will be a an upset and then hopefully SGP can catch them with the big head. But SGP has to take care of the WARRIOR Bowl on friday night.:D

Or if ET beats them down, then we catch them at a low, I will take either scenario.:)

[powerofthehaka]

Or if ET beats them down, then we catch them at a low, I will take either scenario.:)

There ya go!:D

[sgp3]

Well it homecoming so we better win :D
Oh :Censor:. Ok, so we have to go out and win this one now!:mad:

GO Warriors

[stinger]

I don't see IMAC hanging with the Trinity defense. And trinity defense will give the offense the ball enough to score plenty. The outside run is almost unstaoppable. Just ask the last three teams.

[sgp3]

Trinity does have a good defense I really don't know to much about Mac offense but I know Trinity Defense is:Censor:for real:D
I don't see IMAC hanging with the Trinity defense. And trinity defense will give the offense the ball enough to score plenty. The outside run is almost unstaoppable. Just ask the last three teams.

[trojanbacker]

I'm picking SGP to beat Bell. Bell has an excellent runner in D. Piper but that's about it. Stop him and you stop Bell. Good luck Friday night.

[IMacCards]

I don't see IMAC hanging with the Trinity defense. And trinity defense will give the offense the ball enough to score plenty. The outside run is almost unstoppable. Just ask the last three teams.

What about them? SGP is having a down year so of course Trinity scored on them. Irving Nimitz... need I say more? Jesuit, you scored 24 on them. We scored 21 so that's just about even. If the outside run is so unstoppable why didn't the Trinity offense score more than 24? Trinity may very well win this week against IMac but it's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying. If you look at our one common opponent, Jesuit, you'll see IMac's defense held them to -10 yards rushing. Trinity held them to -9 yards rushing. IMac held them to 53 yards passing. Trinity held them to 191 yards passing. As an IMac homer I want to say we'll pull it out Friday but our two teams are so close it could go either way. If you look at the season stats both on offense and defense you'll see just how close the two teams really are. This will be a close game and neither team will blow the other one out. This is going to be a GREAT game.

[powerofthehaka]

What about them? SGP is having a down year so of course Trinity scored on them. Irving Nimitz... need I say more? Jesuit, you scored 24 on them. We scored 21 so that's just about even. If the outside run is so unstoppable why didn't the Trinity offense score more than 24? Trinity may very well win this week against IMac but it's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying. If you look at our one common opponent, Jesuit, you'll see IMac's defense held them to -10 yards rushing. Trinity held them to -9 yards rushing. IMac held them to 53 yards passing. Trinity held them to 191 yards passing. As an IMac homer I want to say we'll pull it out Friday but our two teams are so close it could go either way. If you look at the season stats both on offense and defense you'll see just how close the two teams really are. This will be a close game and neither team will blow the other one out. This is going to be a GREAT game.

ET by 21!

[hollywood]

What about them? SGP is having a down year so of course Trinity scored on them. Irving Nimitz... need I say more? Jesuit, you scored 24 on them. We scored 21 so that's just about even. If the outside run is so unstoppable why didn't the Trinity offense score more than 24? Trinity may very well win this week against IMac but it's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying. If you look at our one common opponent, Jesuit, you'll see IMac's defense held them to -10 yards rushing. Trinity held them to -9 yards rushing. IMac held them to 53 yards passing. Trinity held them to 191 yards passing. As an IMac homer I want to say we'll pull it out Friday but our two teams are so close it could go either way. If you look at the season stats both on offense and defense you'll see just how close the two teams really are. This will be a close game and neither team will blow the other one out. This is going to be a GREAT game.This should be the game of the year in 7-5A.

In fact it is worthy of its own thread:

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=21788

[TrinityTrojan80]

What about them? SGP is having a down year so of course Trinity scored on them. Irving Nimitz... need I say more? Jesuit, you scored 24 on them. We scored 21 so that's just about even. If the outside run is so unstoppable why didn't the Trinity offense score more than 24? Trinity may very well win this week against IMac but it's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying. If you look at our one common opponent, Jesuit, you'll see IMac's defense held them to -10 yards rushing. Trinity held them to -9 yards rushing. IMac held them to 53 yards passing. Trinity held them to 191 yards passing. As an IMac homer I want to say we'll pull it out Friday but our two teams are so close it could go either way. If you look at the season stats both on offense and defense you'll see just how close the two teams really are. This will be a close game and neither team will blow the other one out. This is going to be a GREAT game.


I went to both schools so I have a split loyalty!(NOT) Of course, I when I went to Mac they had never had a great team and had never won a playoff game.

I will differ in my opinion from you. I look at the quality of opponents for one.
Trinity has played some real good teams in non-district, Tyler Lee (we knocked out their QB, they are still suffering) Permian, and Waco. Even though when we lost and gave up 30 points, our defense still ranks very hign.

I also look at the amount of players used in each game. Trinity empties the bench and gives playing time throughout the game. Most games we play more players in the game than is even on the Mac roster.

It is true, the "sweep" has not been stopped since Permian. So your question is valid as to why we didn't score more points. The answer is only spectulation on my part. I believe that the coaching staff wants to work on other plays, knowing that with our defense, a 10 point lead is enough. Is it unstoppable? Maybe, but if that is the only thing we can consistantly do then it will be stopped. Thankfully, our offense can do alot of things well.

I expect that if Trinity turns the ball over more than 4 times, they will loose. If 3 times, a close Trinity win.
If 2 or less times, a big win for Trinity.
A big will would be only a 19 point wi

[stinger]

What about them? SGP is having a down year so of course Trinity scored on them. Irving Nimitz... need I say more? Jesuit, you scored 24 on them. We scored 21 so that's just about even. If the outside run is so unstoppable why didn't the Trinity offense score more than 24? Trinity may very well win this week against IMac but it's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying. If you look at our one common opponent, Jesuit, you'll see IMac's defense held them to -10 yards rushing. Trinity held them to -9 yards rushing. IMac held them to 53 yards passing. Trinity held them to 191 yards passing. As an IMac homer I want to say we'll pull it out Friday but our two teams are so close it could go either way. If you look at the season stats both on offense and defense you'll see just how close the two teams really are. This will be a close game and neither team will blow the other one out. This is going to be a GREAT game.

Yeah, you should say more. They scored early with plenty of outside run and pass. The backups went in early and ran the clock by running up the middle time after time. As for the defense...Trinity used backups mixed in after the second quarter. Backups held them on their longest drive at the end of the game. Trinity has a bend but don't break pass defensae. They will cover close if needed, but you won't get behind them. If you look at the season stats...against who and waht are the records of the teams played? It is NOT a match there.
Just face it....you just haven't faced the same overall team as Trinity has. I say again as always...NUMBERS DON"T MEAN SQUAT!!!
I see it Trinity 35/IMAC 13

[hollywood]

Yeah, you should say more. They scored early with plenty of outside run and pass. The backups went in early and ran the clock by running up the middle time after time. As for the defense...Trinity used backups mixed in after the second quarter. Backups held them on their longest drive at the end of the game. Trinity has a bend but don't break pass defensae. They will cover close if needed, but you won't get behind them. If you look at the season stats...against who and waht are the records of the teams played? It is NOT a match there.
Just face it....you just haven't faced the same overall team as Trinity has. I say again as always...NUMBERS DON"T MEAN SQUAT!!!
I see it Trinity 35/IMAC 13

I agree with this. It comes down to matchups head to head. Right now all we have are common opponents / numbers. Also the further in the season things get, what happened in week two is less viable than it once was. This is a big week for 7-5A.

Looking at the projected palyoffs, IMAC would have Cedar Hill in the first round followed by SLC. I am waiting to see how IMAC fairs against ET to even have an opinion on the CHILL matchup. Yes I know all of this can change much.

Am I hearing that IMAC has not yet a playoff game in their history? This is not a DIS at all, I am just wondering.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

So...back to the SGP vs. LD Bell game. lol

What kind of passing attack does Bell have after their starting QB went down to injury earlier in the year? I have a feeling this is going to be a ground attack game from both sides. Although, I am hoping to see more vertical passes from SGPs #1, Sedric Bates.

[sgp3]

Get your on thread this is about L.D. Bell and SGP:D
This should be the game of the year in 7-5A.

In fact it is worthy of its own thread:

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=21788

[hollywood]

So...back to the SGP vs. LD Bell game. lol

What kind of passing attack does Bell have after their starting QB went down to injury earlier in the year? I have a feeling this is going to be a ground attack game from both sides. Although, I am hoping to see more vertical passes from SGPs #1, Sedric Bates.

Is the starting QB back for Bell?

[hollywood]

Get your on thread this is about L.D. Bell and SGP:D

We already declared that we will win, so I am not sure there is much to talk about.;)

I am curious as to who is at QB for Bell.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

We already declared that we will win, so I am not sure there is much to talk about.;)

I am curious as to who is at QB for Bell.

Me too. I remember the starter going down in week 2 I think, but never heard anything after that. If anyone has any information on who is playing QB now, please share. Is he as good as the starter was?

[hollywood]

Me too. I remember the starter going down in week 2 I think, but never heard anything after that. If anyone has any information on who is playing QB now, please share. Is he as good as the starter was?I don't think this is prviledged information as the SGP coaches already know the answer to this.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I don't think this is prviledged information as the SGP coaches already know the answer to this.

I was just simply asking who is playing QB for Bell, that is all.

[hollywood]

I was just simply asking who is playing QB for Bell, that is all.I am with you. I don't think anyone should hold back from adding the answer to our discussion because it will not impact the game.

[dpop9157]

im going with bell. even though they are our rivals but i think they will win. i feel tate or logan or whoever will pull somethin off. i think bell will come up with the one and will do it nicely. 21-10

[SGP 06 Alumni]

im going with bell. even though they are our rivals but i think they will win. i feel tate or logan or whoever will pull somethin off. i think bell will come up with the one and will do it nicely. 21-10

:(I hope not...:cry

[hollywood]

im going with bell. even though they are our rivals but i think they will win. i feel tate or logan or whoever will pull somethin off. i think bell will come up with the one and will do it nicely. 21-10

I think this is a valid opinion. I hope that it plays out differently though. This is a big week.

[sgp3]

:eek: well I will say this SGP will be prepare because I see this team starting to jell a little bit more I see the teams as whole vibing together from there body laugage and like winning cure alot of problems. And remember SGP where missing 4defense starter in the Irving game
im going with bell. even though they are our rivals but i think they will win. i feel tate or logan or whoever will pull somethin off. i think bell will come up with the one and will do it nicely. 21-10

[trojanbacker]

Tate Holbert is the starting quarterback for Bell. He was injured in the first or second game and Logan Smith filled in for him but he's been back for a couple of games now. For the year, he is 49 - 82 - 3 and 582 yards.

[sgp3]

Sedric Bates 82 332 4.0 1 Rushing total
Sedric Bates54-112-4 535 4.8 4 passing total

[The Warrior]

Sedric Bates 82 332 4.0 1 Rushing total
Sedric Bates54-112-4 535 4.8 4 passing total

Sed is looking better each week, and showed some touch on a couple passes last game, and ran with confidence. A postive sign with 4 games left. I think SGP will be playing their best in week 10 going into the playoffs.

Yes, I said playoffs. :D

[hollywood]

Tate Holbert is the starting quarterback for Bell. He was injured in the first or second game and Logan Smith filled in for him but he's been back for a couple of games now. For the year, he is 49 - 82 - 3 and 582 yards.I thought their starter was back. They made a nice run at IMac last Thursday. I was thinking man that has to be their starter.

[sgp3]

I still think he needs to look up while he scrambling because some of the wideouts are open if he will just look up when he scrambling because i am pretty sure L.D. Bell saw his escape ability while he was scrambling:D
Sed is looking better each week, and showed some touch on a couple passes last game, and ran with confidence. A postive sign with 4 games left. I think SGP will be playing their best in week 10 going into the playoffs.

Yes, I said playoffs. :D

[hollywood]

I still think he needs to look up while he scrambling because some of the wideouts are open if he will just look up when he scrambling because i am pretty sure L.D. Bell saw his escape ability while he was scrambling:D

Agreed. That is a tough one for QBs to learn. Some think run first once their feet start moving. Looking up though, even if you don't actually throw the ball at least sells the defender on the possibility that you just might burn him if he comes up. Then instincts should start to take over. Dewberry was actually pretty good at making a running throw. Being able to make an accurate running throw for a HS QB is very tough. Having said that, IF they can do it, it can be a devastating weapon. This is the year to give this a try. How else will he get prepared for his Sr. year? The other side of the coin is knowing when to tuck that ball away ... hey this is not simple!

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Agreed. That is a tough one for QBs to learn. Some think run first once their feet start moving. Looking up though, even if you don't actually throw the ball at least sells the defender on the possibility that you just might burn him if he comes up. Then instincts should start to take over. Dewberry was actually pretty good at making a running throw. Being able to make an accurate running throw for a HS QB is very tough. Having said that, IF they can do it, it can be a devastating weapon. This is the year to give this a try. How else will he get prepared for his Sr. year? The other side of the coin is knowing when to tuck that ball away ... hey this is not simple!

Yes, that is very tough to learn how to do for any young QB. If Sedrick can ever develope this skill, SGP's offense will improve drastically! And with that, the scores on the score board will change in our favor too;).

[The Warrior]

We seem to be the forgotten team in 7-5a this year. With a win this week, the game changes. They will have to take notice, if we beat Bell. IMAC looks good so far, but I'm not sold on Jesuit. I still say 5-2 and 3rd spot. If Bell is 4th, I think ET goes D2 again. And you know what happened the last time they went D2???:D

[SGP 06 Alumni]

We seem to be the forgotten team in 7-5a this year. With a win this week, the game changes. They will have to take notice, if we beat Bell. IMAC looks good so far, but I'm not sold on Jesuit. I still say 5-2 and 3rd spot. If Bell is 4th, I think ET goes D2 again. And you know what happened the last time they went D2???:D

Easy run all the way to being State Champs:cool:.

Although this year, SLC, Katy, Longview, Lufkin, Cedar Hill, and Desoto will most likely all be D2. So it would not be an easy road for the Trojans.

[bleedblue]

Some facts about this matchup(Total SGP domination)

South Grand Prairie has won 10 in a row over Bell

2004: South Grand Prairie 41, LD Bell 11
2005: South Grand Prairie 42, LD Bell 7
2006: South Grand Prairie 35, LD Bell 0

Combined score of last 3 matchups: 118-18
Combined First Half score of last 3 matchups: 91-3

Total Yardage from Bell, past 3 matchups:

2004: 84 yards(TD + 2 point conversion with about 3 minutes to go)
2005: 210 yards(103 and 107 yards per half respectively, all from passing)
2006: 110 yards

Will this year be any different? SGP's defense is perfect for stopping Bell's offense. SGP has disappointed this year, but here is a closer look at Bell:

Combined record of opponents Bell has defeated(vs. 5A competition): 1-15

Boswell: 0-1
Newman Smith: 0-6
Grand Prairie: 1-4
Irving: 0-5

Combined record of opponent Bell has lost to: 12-0

Martin: 6-0
MacArthur: 6-0

Basically, Bell has either played a really good team or bad team. SGP is that middle ground Bell needs to see exactly how good they are.

My prediction: South Grand Prairie 12, Bell 10

SGP always has Bell's number and trust me, as a former offensive player for Bell, running the offense vs. SGP is very difficult since there is only so much you can do. In 2005 we thought we had SGP figured out, getting 3 first downs on our first 3 plays. But SGP adjusted, picked off a pass that bounced off one of our lineman's helmet and ran it in for a TD, knocked both our starting QB and RB out of the game on that same play, and we didn't get another first down until the 2nd half.

[hollywood]

Easy run all the way to being State Champs:cool:.

Although this year, SLC, Katy, Longview, Lufkin, Cedar Hill, and Desoto will most likely all be D2. So it would not be an easy road for the Trojans.Ok guys. As they say tap the brakes. Breath. Lets just eek out a win against a very good Bell team. :)

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Some facts about this matchup(Total SGP domination)

South Grand Prairie has won 10 in a row over Bell

2004: South Grand Prairie 41, LD Bell 11
2005: South Grand Prairie 42, LD Bell 7
2006: South Grand Prairie 35, LD Bell 0

Combined score of last 3 matchups: 118-18
Combined First Half score of last 3 matchups: 91-3

Total Yardage from Bell, past 3 matchups:

2004: 84 yards(TD + 2 point conversion with about 3 minutes to go)
2005: 210 yards(103 and 107 yards per half respectively, all from passing)
2006: 110 yards

Will this year be any different? SGP's defense is perfect for stopping Bell's offense. SGP has disappointed this year, but here is a closer look at Bell:

Combined record of opponents Bell has defeated(vs. 5A competition): 1-15

Boswell: 0-1
Newman Smith: 0-6
Grand Prairie: 1-4
Irving: 0-5

Combined record of opponent Bell has lost to: 12-0

Martin: 6-0
MacArthur: 6-0

Basically, Bell has either played a really good team or bad team. SGP is that middle ground Bell needs to see exactly how good they are.

My prediction: South Grand Prairie 12, Bell 10

SGP always has Bell's number and trust me, as a former offensive player for Bell, running the offense vs. SGP is very difficult since there is only so much you can do. In 2005 we thought we had SGP figured out, getting 3 first downs on our first 3 plays. But SGP adjusted, picked off a pass that bounced off one of our lineman's helmet and ran it in for a TD, knocked both our starting QB and RB out of the game on that same play, and we didn't get another first down until the 2nd half.

Wow, interesting facts to put up here Bleedblue. This is true, SGP has dominated Bell, but this is a whole new team offensively for SGP. The SGP defense will hold their own, so it will come down to how good SGP's offense can execute against Bell's defense. I have no clue how good Bell's defense is, so I do not know what to expect there.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Ok guys. As they say tap the brakes. Breath. Lets just eek out a win against a very good Bell team. :)

I was merely talking about Trinity. If they go D2, it will not look good for them.

[hollywood]

Some facts about this matchup(Total SGP domination)

South Grand Prairie has won 10 in a row over Bell

2004: South Grand Prairie 41, LD Bell 11
2005: South Grand Prairie 42, LD Bell 7
2006: South Grand Prairie 35, LD Bell 0

Combined score of last 3 matchups: 118-18
Combined First Half score of last 3 matchups: 91-3

Total Yardage from Bell, past 3 matchups:

2004: 84 yards(TD + 2 point conversion with about 3 minutes to go)
2005: 210 yards(103 and 107 yards per half respectively, all from passing)
2006: 110 yards

Will this year be any different? SGP's defense is perfect for stopping Bell's offense. SGP has disappointed this year, but here is a closer look at Bell:

Combined record of opponents Bell has defeated(vs. 5A competition): 1-15

Boswell: 0-1
Newman Smith: 0-6
Grand Prairie: 1-4
Irving: 0-5

Combined record of opponent Bell has lost to: 12-0

Martin: 6-0
MacArthur: 6-0

Basically, Bell has either played a really good team or bad team. SGP is that middle ground Bell needs to see exactly how good they are.

My prediction: South Grand Prairie 12, Bell 10

SGP always has Bell's number and trust me, as a former offensive player for Bell, running the offense vs. SGP is very difficult since there is only so much you can do. In 2005 we thought we had SGP figured out, getting 3 first downs on our first 3 plays. But SGP adjusted, picked off a pass that bounced off one of our lineman's helmet and ran it in for a TD, knocked both our starting QB and RB out of the game on that same play, and we didn't get another first down until the 2nd half.
Wow:). Wow:D and Wow:puke. And more WOW.:eek:

I hear you dude and this is awesome research. This is exactly what the Bell players need to see to get pumped up for this game. Add to it being in the Warrior Bowl (we won the GP/SGP game so it is the Warrior Bowl this year) AND SGP homecoming.

Last years game was total domination by SGP.

From an SGP perspective that is quite a bar to reach.
This is not the 2004/2005/2006 SGP team. It is a rebuilding team that shows some promise. As an avid SGP fan I would love to see SGP pull off this win.

You must agree that Bell has the best team they have had in some time. Bell has every reason to use the past ten meetings as impetus to turn this series around.

I just hope Bell does not even the score spread this year!!:)

12 - 10 LOL. ... I'll take it. Just Win Baby.

Will you be at this game?

[hollywood]

I was merely talking about Trinity. If they go D2, it will not look good for them.My bad. For a second I thought we were getting carried away about SGP. LOL.:D

[The Warrior]

The Teams We Lost To Are A Combined 19-5.


Pw 4-2
Ms 5-1
Sg 5-1
Et 5-1

Except For Et We Played Them Tough. Hopefully It Will Show This Week!

[hollywood]

The Teams We Lost To Are A Combined 19-5.


Pw 4-2
Ms 5-1
Sg 5-1
Et 5-1

Except For Et We Played Them Tough. Hopefully It Will Show This Week!Wow. :)

[The Warrior]

My bad. For a second I thought we were getting carried away about SGP. LOL.:D

Hey, we are still slightly realistic. He haven't lost it yet. But if we don't make the playoffs we will need to watch Alum06, he would be in a depression for sure.:cry

[sgp3]

With that being said me and QB just had discussion about looking down field before he leaves to run, but after watching the film I see why he was running. But all and if we can make some big plays and keep the crowd in the game we can win this one.:D
Agreed. That is a tough one for QBs to learn. Some think run first once their feet start moving. Looking up though, even if you don't actually throw the ball at least sells the defender on the possibility that you just might burn him if he comes up. Then instincts should start to take over. Dewberry was actually pretty good at making a running throw. Being able to make an accurate running throw for a HS QB is very tough. Having said that, IF they can do it, it can be a devastating weapon. This is the year to give this a try. How else will he get prepared for his Sr. year? The other side of the coin is knowing when to tuck that ball away ... hey this is not simple!

[sgp3]

Great stats but all that stuff goes out the window once you line up and play:D
Some facts about this matchup(Total SGP domination)

South Grand Prairie has won 10 in a row over Bell

2004: South Grand Prairie 41, LD Bell 11
2005: South Grand Prairie 42, LD Bell 7
2006: South Grand Prairie 35, LD Bell 0

Combined score of last 3 matchups: 118-18
Combined First Half score of last 3 matchups: 91-3

Total Yardage from Bell, past 3 matchups:

2004: 84 yards(TD + 2 point conversion with about 3 minutes to go)
2005: 210 yards(103 and 107 yards per half respectively, all from passing)
2006: 110 yards

Will this year be any different? SGP's defense is perfect for stopping Bell's offense. SGP has disappointed this year, but here is a closer look at Bell:

Combined record of opponents Bell has defeated(vs. 5A competition): 1-15

Boswell: 0-1
Newman Smith: 0-6
Grand Prairie: 1-4
Irving: 0-5

Combined record of opponent Bell has lost to: 12-0

Martin: 6-0
MacArthur: 6-0

Basically, Bell has either played a really good team or bad team. SGP is that middle ground Bell needs to see exactly how good they are.

My prediction: South Grand Prairie 12, Bell 10

SGP always has Bell's number and trust me, as a former offensive player for Bell, running the offense vs. SGP is very difficult since there is only so much you can do. In 2005 we thought we had SGP figured out, getting 3 first downs on our first 3 plays. But SGP adjusted, picked off a pass that bounced off one of our lineman's helmet and ran it in for a TD, knocked both our starting QB and RB out of the game on that same play, and we didn't get another first down until the 2nd half.

[sgp3]

But since we are doing stats here another one:DThe South Grand Prairie Warriors host L.D. Bell in a District 7-5A football game Friday at 7:30 p.m. at the Warrior Bowl. It is homecoming for SGP, which has won eight straight games against the Blue Radier.
Great stats but all that stuff goes out the window once you line up and play:D

[hollywood]

Hey, we are still slightly realistic. He haven't lost it yet. But if we don't make the playoffs we will need to watch Alum06, he would be in a depression for sure.:cryYes. They need to win one for SGP Alumni 06 who was cheated out of a rightful state championship by those pesky Plano Widlcats!;)

Also, it would be great if the players could get some reward for hanging in there and toughing it out. A trip to the show would be great. How long one stays in the show is a whole other matter.

[hollywood]

With that being said me and QB just had discussion about looking down field before he leaves to run, but after watching the film I see why he was running. But all and if we can make some big plays and keep the crowd in the game we can win this one.:DYup. The crowd needs to put the Warrior face on.:mad: They need a smiley like this with a Warrior headdress.:mad::mad::mad:

[TrinityTrojan80]

I was merely talking about Trinity. If they go D2, it will not look good for them.


I'm not sure what you mean! It looks better wherever the best teams are! We can't control anything but who is scheduled accross the field from us. it makes no difference either way.

[bleedblue]

Of course I will be at the game.

But the one disappointment of my high school days was never being able to play at the Gopher Warrior Bowl. I myself played all 4 games in my high school days vs. GPISD at Pennington!

Gopher-Warrior Bowl is easily one of my favorite high school stadiums, along with Pennington(of course), UTA, and Coppell.

[hollywood]

Of course I will be at the game.

But the one disappointment of my high school days was never being able to play at the Gopher Warrior Bowl. I myself played all 4 games in my high school days vs. GPISD at Pennington!

Gopher-Warrior Bowl is easily one of my favorite high school stadiums, along with Pennington(of course), UTA, and Coppell.So can we expect Bell to bring a big crowd this week?

[bleedblue]

So can we expect Bell to bring a big crowd this week?

Yes

Despite not being the same team of the 80s and 90s, Bell still draws very well for road games. The tradition of football from the school is too strong and even our game against Irving Nimitz in 2005 when we were 2-6 and nothing to play for still filled most of Irving Schools Stadium visitor side.

Of course, many of these fans are band parents, but even once those clear out the crowd is still good.

In 2004, last time Bell and SGP met at the Gopher Warrior Bowl, SGP was 5-0 and Bell had just upset Irving High. It was a rather big 6-5A game that year and Bell filled just about all of the GW Bowl Visitor Side. I expect similar this year.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Yes. They need to win one for SGP Alumni 06 who was cheated out of a rightful state championship by those pesky Plano Widlcats!;)

Also, it would be great if the players could get some reward for hanging in there and toughing it out. A trip to the show would be great. How long one stays in the show is a whole other matter.


:crySay it ain't SO!!!:cry
Why bring that horror back upon me...WHY I ASK YOU, WHY?!?!?!?!:cry

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Hey, we are still slightly realistic. He haven't lost it yet. But if we don't make the playoffs we will need to watch Alum06, he would be in a depression for sure.:cry

Tis true...I might just leave the board...:cry

[New Westfield Fan]

Bell Bell LD Bell Bell Bell Woo

[btrain38]

So can we expect Bell to bring a big crowd this week?

MORE THAN SGP WILL HAVE.........

[sgp3]

Your location said it all OUT WEST:D
MORE THAN SGP WILL HAVE.........

[sgp3]

Hey where are the Bell fans at:confused: I guess when u not use to winning you don't know when to come out:D Well here your chance you all can come out now, well at least to Friday Night until you come into the WARRIOR BOWL!!:D

[sgp3]

The winner of this game stays tied for 2nd place:D

[The Warrior]

Bell Bell LD Bell Bell Bell Woo

CHOP!CHOP!CHOP!:mad:

[powerofthehaka]

You guy's STILL need to get a room.:D

[SGP 06 Alumni]

You guy's STILL need to get a room.:D

And against Bell we will! In the WARRIOR BOWL!!:D

[SGP 06 Alumni]

MORE THAN SGP WILL HAVE.........

HA! YEAH RIGHT!! SGP always has a good fan base in attendance, and this will also be homecoming!!:D

[sgp3]

Dang we got a room over in Irving last week like it so much we going back to more times. But this week we decide to invite someone over for homecoming and it just happen to be Bell (LOL):D
You guy's STILL need to get a room.:D

[hollywood]

MORE THAN SGP WILL HAVE.........Very strange statements even for someone born under Truman ... wait FDR!!

I wish there was a wager I could make. Its hard to beat homecomng for pure attendance.

[hollywood]

Your location said it all OUT WEST:DWhy was he yelling?

[hollywood]

You guy's STILL need to get a room.:DOk, so you work for LaQunita? Motel 6?
Bates Motel?

[The Warrior]

13-12 votes. Sounds about right. A toss up on paper, but I'm still waiting for the offense to blow up with a TD from #1, #3, #19, and #36, and a FG from #31.
SGP 31
Bell 21

It's about time to come together and put a whoopin on somebody!:mad:

[hollywood]

13-12 votes. Sounds about right. A toss up on paper, but I'm still waiting for the offense to blow up with a TD from #1, #3, #19, and #36, and a FG from #31.
SGP 31
Bell 21

It's about time to come together and put a whoopin on somebody!:mad:This would be the week to do it!!:mad:

[hollywood]

Yes

Despite not being the same team of the 80s and 90s, Bell still draws very well for road games. The tradition of football from the school is too strong and even our game against Irving Nimitz in 2005 when we were 2-6 and nothing to play for still filled most of Irving Schools Stadium visitor side.

Of course, many of these fans are band parents, but even once those clear out the crowd is still good.

In 2004, last time Bell and SGP met at the Gopher Warrior Bowl, SGP was 5-0 and Bell had just upset Irving High. It was a rather big 6-5A game that year and Bell filled just about all of the GW Bowl Visitor Side. I expect similar this year.

Well, good luck to you guys. I hope it is a great game. Sounds like we have our work cut out for us. Lets see who wants this the most. I look forward to your analysis after the game. I will settle for a last second SGP field goal to seal the deal and make it five in a row for Coach Fisher vs. LD Bell.:)

[BigFoot]

District 7-5A Football
Team District/Season W L W L Pts Opp
MacArthur 3 0 6 0 224 81
Trinity 3 0 5 1 147 57
L.D. Bell 2 1 4 2 214 141
S Grand Prairie 2 1 2 4 95 127
Jesuit 1 2 3 3 121 115
Gr Prairie 1 2 2 4 101 188
Irving 0 3 1 5 144 180
Nimitz 0 3 0 6 72 125

Points don't define a team. It depends who plays good Friday ....this one is a tough one to pick because it depends on who shows up to play ...

[sgp3]

That is so true!:D
Points don't define a team. It depends who plays good Friday ....this one is a tough one to pick because it depends on who shows up to play ...

[sgp3]

We will be alright if three of the four come through we will be alright I think we can pull this out remember Bell had a hard time with GP 27-21:D
13-12 votes. Sounds about right. A toss up on paper, but I'm still waiting for the offense to blow up with a TD from #1, #3, #19, and #36, and a FG from #31.
SGP 31
Bell 21

It's about time to come together and put a whoopin on somebody!:mad:

[sgp3]

Where are all the Bell fans? We are letting you come into the WARRIOR BOWL:D, this week?

[1footballnut]

It's been fun reading you guys pumping each other up. Understanding that SGP has a better than average defense...has SGP all of a sudden dailed up a big time offense that I just have not read about. Better watch out the Blueraiders will bring a better than average defense themselves. Hate to spoil your homecoming and wished you would have helped us with Trinity with a win, but not a perfect world BELL WINS THIS GAME

[sgp3]

Well let put it like this we have just enough offense to beat Bell remember you guys struggle with GP:D
It's been fun reading you guys pumping each other up. Understanding that SGP has a better than average defense...has SGP all of a sudden dailed up a big time offense that I just have not read about. Better watch out the Blueraiders will bring a better than average defense themselves. Hate to spoil your homecoming and wished you would have helped us with Trinity with a win, but not a perfect world BELL WINS THIS GAME

[Vols4Ever]

Whomever wins this game is going to the playoffs for sure. The loser of this game has to be very careful ..... it is possible they can both make the playoffs, but it's a tedious slope for the loser.

[sgp3]

That can be either true or false statement you just made:D
Whomever wins this game is going to the playoffs for sure. The loser of this game has to be very careful ..... it is possible they can both make the playoffs, but it's a tedious slope for the loser.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Whomever wins this game is going to the playoffs for sure. The loser of this game has to be very careful ..... it is possible they can both make the playoffs, but it's a tedious slope for the loser.

I actually agree with this. The loser still has a chance, but it will be a tough road. If Jesuit wins the games they are supposed to win to make the playoffs, then the loser would have to beat them to make the playoffs. It will not be a cake walk.

[1footballnut]

Win the turnover battle Bell wins the game....Lose the turnover battle SGP makes it close. Remember the sign of a good team is one the doesn't play very good, but can still win the game. Great teams can expose your weakness. It's going to be fun and I will be be on the 50 yard line.

[sgp3]

Don't most teams that win the turnover battle win the game? :confused: Okay and u sitting on the 50 yard lines means what? So are you saying Bell is a great team:confused:
Win the turnover battle Bell wins the game....Lose the turnover battle SGP makes it close. Remember the sign of a good team is one the doesn't play very good, but can still win the game. Great teams can expose your weakness. It's going to be fun and I will be be on the 50 yard line.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Don't most teams that win the turnover battle win the game? :confused: Okay and u sitting on the 50 yard lines means what? So are you saying Bell is a great team:confused:

Not necessarily, look at the Cowboys against the Bills. 6 turnovers for the 'Boys, and only 1 for the Bills.

[sgp3]

If u look at the statement I said most not :rolleyes:
Not necessarily, look at the Cowboys against the Bills. 6 turnovers for the 'Boys, and only 1 for the Bills.

[Vols4Ever]

That can be either true or false statement you just made:D

You need to learn the difference between opinion, truth, and falsehoods.

Right now that is my opinion. It can become a TRUE or FALSE assumption afterwards. The winner will make the playoffs. But the loser will find making the playoffs much more difficult. Jesuit, Bell, and SGP are on the same tier right now fighting for the last 2 spots. I am prematurely handing the first 2 spots to IMAC and Trinity based on what I have seen. And YES -- I can be wrong.

[sgp3]

And we know what that say about :Censor: opinion:D Nothing can be given to anyone just yet because if that was the case they would not play the game.
You need to learn the difference between opinion, truth, and falsehoods.

Right now that is my opinion. It can become a TRUE or FALSE assumption afterwards. The winner will make the playoffs. But the loser will find making the playoffs much more difficult. Jesuit, Bell, and SGP are on the same tier right now fighting for the last 2 spots. I am prematurely handing the first 2 spots to IMAC and Trinity based on what I have seen. And YES -- I can be wrong.

[Vols4Ever]

And we know what that say about :Censor: opinion:D Nothing can be given to anyone just yet because if that was the case they would not play the game.

Once again, its an opinion for now. But you have been way off on Bowie this year, and I have been proven right thus far. So I like my chances of being right on this one as well.

[sgp3]

Bowie still has not done anything yet but beat CHILL:Music Until they win a playoff game and beat someone in the playoff all they have proven is that they can beat CHILL:D
Once again, its an opinion for now. But you have been way off on Bowie this year, and I have been proven right thus far. So I like my chances of being right on this one as well.

[The Warrior]

Whomever wins this game is going to the playoffs for sure. The loser of this game has to be very careful ..... it is possible they can both make the playoffs, but it's a tedious slope for the loser.

I think Jesuit is the one that will be out of the playoffs this year. Losing to ET, IMAC, BELL,SGP, and in a upset special IRVING Tigers.

[1footballnut]

Got to love you guys always fishing for the arguement and opinon. The big warrior bowl is pretty nice but we bell supporters have been in nice places before. Damn guys this whole thread is based on everyones opinon.
Me sitting on the 50 yard means it not hard yo find me. Then when the arguement runs out the next line will be we will settle this on the field. Support your school the best you how YELL SCREAM, BOO ENCOURAGE but at end it's just another high school. And in the end my player walkes out healthy and a better man for going through it THAT'S A VICTORY but football teaches that...

[hollywood]

You need to learn the difference between opinion, truth, and falsehoods.

Right now that is my opinion. It can become a TRUE or FALSE assumption afterwards. The winner will make the playoffs. But the loser will find making the playoffs much more difficult. Jesuit, Bell, and SGP are on the same tier right now fighting for the last 2 spots. I am prematurely handing the first 2 spots to IMAC and Trinity based on what I have seen. And YES -- I can be wrong.I agree. I also could be right or wrong.:)

[jbusch]

Got to love you guys always fishing for the arguement and opinon. The big warrior bowl is pretty nice but we bell supporters have been in nice places before. Damn guys this whole thread is based on everyones opinon.
Me sitting on the 50 yard means it not hard yo find me. Then when the arguement runs out the next line will be we will settle this on the field. Support your school the best you how YELL SCREAM, BOO ENCOURAGE but at end it's just another high school. And in the end my player walkes out healthy and a better man for going through it THAT'S A VICTORY but football teaches that...


Warrior Bowl -it would be nice to be able to see the sideline from the stands, the "bowl" needs to be much wider.

[hollywood]

Warrior Bowl -it would be nice to be able to see the sideline from the stands, the "bowl" needs to be much wider.
I'll see what I can do.

[hollywood]

Got to love you guys always fishing for the arguement and opinon. The big warrior bowl is pretty nice but we bell supporters have been in nice places before. Damn guys this whole thread is based on everyones opinon.
Me sitting on the 50 yard means it not hard yo find me. Then when the arguement runs out the next line will be we will settle this on the field. Support your school the best you how YELL SCREAM, BOO ENCOURAGE but at end it's just another high school. And in the end my player walkes out healthy and a better man for going through it THAT'S A VICTORY but football teaches that...

I enjoy Texas HS Football. It is something I can be passionate about. It is a great escape from work and other more "serious" pursuits. One can live vicariously thru this youthful contest. Compared to College, the Pros and many other endeavors it is pretty much pure. All things are possible ... Most play it for the love of the game. I guess I could change my mind ... but I kinda like you Bell folks. :) I have season tickets row 11 on the aisle right at the 45. I have a great view. Hey I will waive to you at the opening kickoff. I will be wearing SGP colors.

Go Warriors:mad:

[1footballnut]

I enjoy Texas HS Football. It is something I can be passionate about. It is a great escape from work and other more "serious" pursuits. One can live vicariously thru this youthful contest. Compared to College, the Pros and many other endeavors it is pretty much pure. All things are possible ... Most play it for the love of the game. I guess I could change my mind ... but I kinda like you Bell folks. :) I have season tickets row 11 on the aisle right at the 45. I have a great view. Hey I will waive to you at the opening kickoff. I will be wearing SGP colors.

Go Warriors:mad:
Well said Hollywood I will be in full Bell sprit wear and will wave right back it's a contest that all can get invold in. Yell for your team then when over it's on to next week and a another big game for both teams

[bleedblue]

Of course I want Bell to win but until I can see Bell's offense(and this isn't a knock against our offense at all) move the ball well against SGP's defense I won't believe that Bell CAN win the game.

Bell has had the same offense, SGP has had the same defense in the past two seasons. Bell has scored 7 points total in those 2 games- a garbage time late 4th quarter 60 yard TD strike in 2005 on 4th down because the SGP defender slipped, leaving our guy wide open up the sideline.

If you want to go back farther, SGP has not allowed a TD vs. Bell with the starters out on the field since 2001. In 2004 we scored 11 points, a field goal in the 2nd quarter and a garbage time hail mary heave into the end zone on 4th and 21 with 2 minutes to go in the 4th.

The magic number for this game, in my opinion, is 21. Whoever gets there first will win. If no one does, this game favors SGP.

[sgp3]

I have season tickets but I never use them::D
I enjoy Texas HS Football. It is something I can be passionate about. It is a great escape from work and other more "serious" pursuits. One can live vicariously thru this youthful contest. Compared to College, the Pros and many other endeavors it is pretty much pure. All things are possible ... Most play it for the love of the game. I guess I could change my mind ... but I kinda like you Bell folks. :) I have season tickets row 11 on the aisle right at the 45. I have a great view. Hey I will waive to you at the opening kickoff. I will be wearing SGP colors.

Go Warriors:mad:

[sgp3]

I like how you think:D
Of course I want Bell to win but until I can see Bell's offense(and this isn't a knock against our offense at all) move the ball well against SGP's defense I won't believe that Bell CAN win the game.

Bell has had the same offense, SGP has had the same defense in the past two seasons. Bell has scored 7 points total in those 2 games- a garbage time late 4th quarter 60 yard TD strike in 2005 on 4th down because the SGP defender slipped, leaving our guy wide open up the sideline.

If you want to go back farther, SGP has not allowed a TD vs. Bell with the starters out on the field since 2001. In 2004 we scored 11 points, a field goal in the 2nd quarter and a garbage time hail mary heave into the end zone on 4th and 21 with 2 minutes to go in the 4th.

The magic number for this game, in my opinion, is 21. Whoever gets there first will win. If no one does, this game favors SGP.

[hollywood]

I have season tickets but I never use them::DI hope you give them to some other folks ....

[sgp3]

Yeah family I stand the entire game.:D
I hope you give them to some other folks ....

[The Warrior]

Although I would like us to score early and often, I have a feeling it will be close till a Big Play wins it in the end. The poll is 15-15, who came in and tied it up? The 38% (7-18) completion percentage from last week, worries me.:(

Something like 12-20, should do the trick, this week.

[sgp3]

U worry to much did we win Yes OR NO?:D
Although I would like us to score early and often, I have a feeling it will be close till a Big Play wins it in the end. The poll is 15-15, who came in and tied it up? The 38% (7-18) completion percentage from last week, worries me.:(

Something like 12-20, should do the trick, this week.

[bleedblue]

Even though we run a 1-back 4 wideout spread offense its still a running based offense. People think that Bell is a passing team but its not true.

In 2005 we could not run the ball at all, mainly because of an offensive line that returned 0 starters that were also transitioning from blocking in a wishbone offense to a spread offense. We had a good back, but he just never got any help. No offense to our line that year at all- they were asked to do too much in too little time. All of our yards each game were via passing, and its the only way we could move the ball, which made me wonder why we just didn't pull a Texas Tech and throw the ball 50 times a game and run 10 times, instead of running the ball 40 times and throwing 15-20 times like we did. I felt we could have done better.

In 2006 is when our running game came to life and defined what Bell's spread offense is- 40+ rushing attempts per game and 10-15 passing attemps to fill in the gaps. In my opinion this is how spread offenses should be run- run the ball more than pass.

2007 is an extension of our 2006 season, only with a better passing game. It seemed as if our coaches were not confident at all in passing the ball last year, and it showed- Deante Piper carried the offense on his back last year.

SGP's defense can be good at both stopping the run AND pass, its going to be interesting to see how they can face a more 2 dimensional Bell offense, because in 2005(couldn't run the ball) and 2006(couldn't pass the ball) SGP just adjusted accordingly and dominated defensively.

[sgp3]

We shall see we shall see:D
Even though we run a 1-back 4 wideout spread offense its still a running based offense. People think that Bell is a passing team but its not true.

In 2005 we could not run the ball at all, mainly because of an offensive line that returned 0 starters that were also transitioning from blocking in a wishbone offense to a spread offense. We had a good back, but he just never got any help. No offense to our line that year at all- they were asked to do too much in too little time. All of our yards each game were via passing, and its the only way we could move the ball, which made me wonder why we just didn't pull a Texas Tech and throw the ball 50 times a game and run 10 times, instead of running the ball 40 times and throwing 15-20 times like we did. I felt we could have done better.

In 2006 is when our running game came to life and defined what Bell's spread offense is- 40+ rushing attempts per game and 10-15 passing attemps to fill in the gaps. In my opinion this is how spread offenses should be run- run the ball more than pass.

2007 is an extension of our 2006 season, only with a better passing game. It seemed as if our coaches were not confident at all in passing the ball last year, and it showed- Deante Piper carried the offense on his back last year.

SGP's defense can be good at both stopping the run AND pass, its going to be interesting to see how they can face a more 2 dimensional Bell offense, because in 2005(couldn't run the ball) and 2006(couldn't pass the ball) SGP just adjusted accordingly and dominated defensively.

[1footballnut]

Even though we run a 1-back 4 wideout spread offense its still a running based offense. People think that Bell is a passing team but its not true.

In 2005 we could not run the ball at all, mainly because of an offensive line that returned 0 starters that were also transitioning from blocking in a wishbone offense to a spread offense. We had a good back, but he just never got any help. No offense to our line that year at all- they were asked to do too much in too little time. All of our yards each game were via passing, and its the only way we could move the ball, which made me wonder why we just didn't pull a Texas Tech and throw the ball 50 times a game and run 10 times, instead of running the ball 40 times and throwing 15-20 times like we did. I felt we could have done better.

In 2006 is when our running game came to life and defined what Bell's spread offense is- 40+ rushing attempts per game and 10-15 passing attemps to fill in the gaps. In my opinion this is how spread offenses should be run- run the ball more than pass.

2007 is an extension of our 2006 season, only with a better passing game. It seemed as if our coaches were not confident at all in passing the ball last year, and it showed- Deante Piper carried the offense on his back last year.

SGP's defense can be good at both stopping the run AND pass, its going to be interesting to see how they can face a more 2 dimensional Bell offense, because in 2005(couldn't run the ball) and 2006(couldn't pass the ball) SGP just adjusted accordingly and dominated defensively.

Sometimes Bleedblue,
Alot of the statements you make of past teams not only Bell, but SGP also don't hold alot of water.
Bell has improved in alot of areas talent wise. The teams of the past with the exception of last year Bell has not had a back in the top 4 of rushing in the area. The only thing that Lampkin and Piper have in common is the number 5. The quarterback position is a upgrade also stats and leadership show that and you are right on one thing they didn't like the production at that position since Holbert had won that job as a junior. Now the recieving corps..I can't remember in a long time when Bell has had the number of top flight recievers or the defense to go with it. So about the only thing that is the same is the colors of their jersey and the coach.

As for SGP I think they would say there is differences in their team as well. It is hard to replace guys like Williams,Dewberry,Allen just to name a few. Expect SGP has alot of guys that have talent as they always have. Sorry guys just had to get that off my chest 2004 2005 2006 give me a break.

[The Warrior]

U worry to much did we win Yes OR NO?:D

I want to keep winning so your 6-4 prediction holds true. My 7-3 has been dead for weeks! I wannt the fellas to have a good season to build on for next year.

[Vols4Ever]

Bowie still has not done anything yet but beat CHILL:Music Until they win a playoff game and beat someone in the playoff all they have proven is that they can beat CHILL:D

Yeah, beating the defending state champs is nothing to be proud of. Taking care of business versus a good Skyline team and Denton Ryan team is nothing to be proud of either. I digress.

You are ridiculous.

You picked them to lose to Skyline. WRONG.
You picked them to lose to Cedar Hill. WRONG AGAIN.
You are also picking them to lose to Arlington. huh?

That is what I was talking about. For once, stop disrespecting Bowie. Are you capable of that?

I quote you from a post you made prior to Bowie playing Skyline ---
"All I can say is Bowie has to big games on back to back week. And they are on the road thing can get ugly. So let just say we will see what Bowie is truly made of in the next two weeks"

You yourself called both games big games. Since Bowie won both games, it would seem they have proven they can win big games. I don't know what your hangup is about Bowie. But I do know that SGP wants no part of Bowie this year in round 1. And I mean no disrespect to other SGP fans on here.

[sgp3]

And again I will say what has Bowie really done? They beat SKYLINE and Cedar Hill. I got one question for you when was the last time Bowie won a district championship? I am glad you proud of Bowie winning this year and last year but before you proclaim Bowie as being the next great thing that North Texas has seen let just see how this year plays out. And second this is a SGP and L.D. Bell thread so how about you start a thread about Bowie and then I will come over and talk to you about Bowie but until you start a Bowie thread don't come over here and try to hijack this one. And as far as Bowie and SGP playing the playoff we shall see if it happen if both team handle there business it will happen and remember there a reason why they play the game. Because if Bowie and SGP do meet in the Playoff it will be just like rivarly game game because a lot of the players know one another since both school are so close together and again I will say start a Bowie thread and I might come chat with you until then LET US WARRIOR FAN have our thread:D
Yeah, beating the defending state champs is nothing to be proud of. Taking care of business versus a good Skyline team and Denton Ryan team is nothing to be proud of either. I digress.

You are ridiculous.

You picked them to lose to Skyline. WRONG.
You picked them to lose to Cedar Hill. WRONG AGAIN.
You are also picking them to lose to Arlington. huh?

That is what I was talking about. For once, stop disrespecting Bowie. Are you capable of that?

I quote you from a post you made prior to Bowie playing Skyline ---
"All I can say is Bowie has to big games on back to back week. And they are on the road thing can get ugly. So let just say we will see what Bowie is truly made of in the next two weeks"

You yourself called both games big games. Since Bowie won both games, it would seem they have proven they can win big games. I don't know what your hangup is about Bowie. But I do know that SGP wants no part of Bowie this year in round 1. And I mean no disrespect to other SGP fans on here.

[theTrutHurts]

It's going to be a good game
It is a big game for both teams.

[Vols4Ever]

And again I will say what has Bowie really done? They beat SKYLINE and Cedar Hill. I got one question for you when was the last time Bowie won a district championship? I am glad you proud of Bowie winning this year and last year but before you proclaim Bowie as being the next great thing that North Texas has seen let just see how this year plays out. And second this is a SGP and L.D. Bell thread so how about you start a thread about Bowie and then I will come over and talk to you about Bowie but until you start a Bowie thread don't come over here and try to hijack this one. And as far as Bowie and SGP playing the playoff we shall see if it happen if both team handle there business it will happen and remember there a reason why they play the game. Because if Bowie and SGP do meet in the Playoff it will be just like rivarly game game because a lot of the players know one another since both school are so close together and again I will say start a Bowie thread and I might come chat with you until then LET US WARRIOR FAN have our thread:D

You are not the board police -- I will say what I want when I want - just like you do. You have spoken about SGP on other non-SGP threads.

You never admit you are wrong, and you can't give any credit. All you do is doubt. You are, as they say, a hater. I have been wrong on Martin this year, and could admit it and say congrats or anything. It does not matter what Bowie does, you dismiss it. When you are proven wrong, you say nothing. But I am sure you are the type that would run your mouth about it if you were proven right. Then again, you are not batting very well this season are you?

By the way, I am the son of a Warrior (Class of '72) and I have probably been to more SGP games than you have. And yeah -- I am a Warrior fan too after my alma mater and Cedar Hill (where I live).

Regardless, we are talking about 2007. Bowie's lack of winning prior to this year is irregardless. No two seasons have the same kids on a given team.

The fact that SGP tied for a district title two years ago has nothing to do with the fact that they are not very good this year.

[hollywood]

Yeah family I stand the entire game.:DI gotta be honest myself, I prefer to stand the whole game.

[hollywood]

U worry to much did we win Yes OR NO?:D

Just Win Baby.

[hollywood]

Even though we run a 1-back 4 wideout spread offense its still a running based offense. People think that Bell is a passing team but its not true.

In 2005 we could not run the ball at all, mainly because of an offensive line that returned 0 starters that were also transitioning from blocking in a wishbone offense to a spread offense. We had a good back, but he just never got any help. No offense to our line that year at all- they were asked to do too much in too little time. All of our yards each game were via passing, and its the only way we could move the ball, which made me wonder why we just didn't pull a Texas Tech and throw the ball 50 times a game and run 10 times, instead of running the ball 40 times and throwing 15-20 times like we did. I felt we could have done better.

In 2006 is when our running game came to life and defined what Bell's spread offense is- 40+ rushing attempts per game and 10-15 passing attemps to fill in the gaps. In my opinion this is how spread offenses should be run- run the ball more than pass.

2007 is an extension of our 2006 season, only with a better passing game. It seemed as if our coaches were not confident at all in passing the ball last year, and it showed- Deante Piper carried the offense on his back last year.

SGP's defense can be good at both stopping the run AND pass, its going to be interesting to see how they can face a more 2 dimensional Bell offense, because in 2005(couldn't run the ball) and 2006(couldn't pass the ball) SGP just adjusted accordingly and dominated defensively.

SGP cannot leave the defense on the field all night long. We need to score, but we also need some good drives. Sustaining long drives are not that easy to do.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Ok, I am going to give my 2 cents on Bowie, and then this thread should get back to SGP vs. Bell.

Arlington Bowie has come a long way the past 2 years, and I am glad to see them progressing. Honestly SGP3, us Warrior fans have no room to talk about how we (you) think Bowie isn't proven yet, since SGP is 2-4. If SGP does play Bowie in the playoffs (if we get there), then I do not think it will be as close as last year. Bowie has improved drastically, and we have lost a ton of talent and are in a rebuilding year. Bowie is 6-0, and will have absolutely no problems with Arlington this week; they will be 7-0. Then, they get Martin, and that will not be a cake walk, but I do think Bowie will win. Ok, that is my 2 cents on Bowie, and to add one more thing, I do believe they will be 10-0, and win more than one playoff game.

[sgp3]

U don't have to sustain long drives to be L.D. Bell all we have do is out score them that all.
SGP cannot leave the defense on the field all night long. We need to score, but we also need some good drives. Sustaining long drives are not that easy to do.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

SGP cannot leave the defense on the field all night long. We need to score, but we also need some good drives. Sustaining long drives are not that easy to do.

I agree, we need to keep our defense fresh to stop their good running attack late in the game. We need to eat that clock, and lead in the TOP category. If we can do that, we just might come out with the "W".

[SGP 06 Alumni]

U don't have to sustain long drives to be L.D. Bell all we have do is out score them that all.

A good way to do that is to control the TOP. I agree with Hollywood, we need to have long drives and keep the defense fresh. Also, keeping a defense fresh reduces the chances of serious injuries.

[hollywood]

U don't have to sustain long drives to be L.D. Bell all we have do is out score them that all.We shall see. I have seen our guys get worn down from being on the field too long and having to defend short fields. I prefer when SGP can be on the attack rather than back on their heels. They finished the GP game very, very well. The O had some drives in that one that I think really helped. Don't get me wrong, I love a big strike for a score. But 3 and outs ... really suck.

And again. Wins are what count now.

[hollywood]

You are not the board police -- I will say what I want when I want - just like you do. You have spoken about SGP on other non-SGP threads.

You never admit you are wrong, and you can't give any credit. All you do is doubt. You are, as they say, a hater. I have been wrong on Martin this year, and could admit it and say congrats or anything. It does not matter what Bowie does, you dismiss it. When you are proven wrong, you say nothing. But I am sure you are the type that would run your mouth about it if you were proven right. Then again, you are not batting very well this season are you?

By the way, I am the son of a Warrior (Class of '72) and I have probably been to more SGP games than you have. And yeah -- I am a Warrior fan too after my alma mater and Cedar Hill (where I live).

Regardless, we are talking about 2007. Bowie's lack of winning prior to this year is irregardless. No two seasons have the same kids on a given team.

The fact that SGP tied for a district title two years ago has nothing to do with the fact that they are not very good this year.

Go Vols. Go SGP.

SGP vs. Bowie rematch !!! Yes!!!!

[sgp3]

What you mean not very good? Who said I was wrong I just ask you how many district title has Bowie won, but since you did not answer the ? I guess that means none. And you might been to a lot of SGP games in the past I give you that but how many have you been to in the past 5 years?

Stick with Bowie that your team?

Who said I was wrong like I said to me Bowie still has not done anything yet? They beat Cedar Hill and they beat Skyline. Yes SGP is 2-4 but 2-1 in district and that where it counts. And yes every year is different team but again like I said earlier to you Bowie still has not done anything but beat those team I mention earlier. Until that make a deep playoff run all that means nothing just ask Cedar Hill since you a big time fan of theres until that won state they where just another team that made the playoffs.

And by the way I don't give credit that something you have to earn and to me Bowie still has not earn it yet until they win a district title and a playoff game.:D

And the point of the matter SGP had a three way tie not just a tie for the district title. And I will tell you SGP is just a team that has showen potential for some many years as well and still has not went deep in the playoff since 99. But what SGP can say is that they beat BOWIE last year:D




You are not the board police -- I will say what I want when I want - just like you do. You have spoken about SGP on other non-SGP threads.

You never admit you are wrong, and you can't give any credit. All you do is doubt. You are, as they say, a hater. I have been wrong on Martin this year, and could admit it and say congrats or anything. It does not matter what Bowie does, you dismiss it. When you are proven wrong, you say nothing. But I am sure you are the type that would run your mouth about it if you were proven right. Then again, you are not batting very well this season are you?

By the way, I am the son of a Warrior (Class of '72) and I have probably been to more SGP games than you have. And yeah -- I am a Warrior fan too after my alma mater and Cedar Hill (where I live).

Regardless, we are talking about 2007. Bowie's lack of winning prior to this year is irregardless. No two seasons have the same kids on a given team.

The fact that SGP tied for a district title two years ago has nothing to do with the fact that they are not very good this year.

[hollywood]

Where is koldham when you need him?

[sgp3]

To be honest I could care less about what Bowie does over there and I would rather be 2-4 then 6-0 as long as it a Warrior 2-4:D And again I said Warriors are 2-1 in district and that's where it all counts.:D I root for one team only!!:D And that happen to be the WARRIORS!!!:D
Ok, I am going to give my 2 cents on Bowie, and then this thread should get back to SGP vs. Bell.

Arlington Bowie has come a long way the past 2 years, and I am glad to see them progressing. Honestly SGP3, us Warrior fans have no room to talk about how we (you) think Bowie isn't proven yet, since SGP is 2-4. If SGP does play Bowie in the playoffs (if we get there), then I do not think it will be as close as last year. Bowie has improved drastically, and we have lost a ton of talent and are in a rebuilding year. Bowie is 6-0, and will have absolutely no problems with Arlington this week; they will be 7-0. Then, they get Martin, and that will not be a cake walk, but I do think Bowie will win. Ok, that is my 2 cents on Bowie, and to add one more thing, I do believe they will be 10-0, and win more than one playoff game.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

What you mean not very good? Who said I was wrong I just ask you how many district title has Bowie won, but since you did not answer the ? I guess that means none. And you might been to a lot of SGP games in the past I give you that but how many have you been to in the past 5 years?

Stick with Bowie that your team?

Who said I was wrong like I said to me Bowie still has not done anything yet? They beat Cedar Hill and they beat Skyline. Yes SGP is 2-4 but 2-1 in district and that where it counts. And yes every year is different team but again like I said earlier to you Bowie still has not done anything but beat those team I mention earlier. Until that make a deep playoff run all that means nothing just ask Cedar Hill since you a big time fan of theres until that won state they where just another team that made the playoffs.

And by the way I don't give credit that something you have to earn and to me Bowie still has not earn it yet until they win a district title and a playoff game.:D

And the point of the matter SGP had a three way tie not just a tie for the district title. And I will tell you SGP is just a team that has showen potential for some many years as well and still has not went deep in the playoff since 99. But what SGP can say is that they beat BOWIE last year:D


I hate to say this because it is bad for my Warriors, but that win means absolutely nothing now. We have practically all new offensive personnel on this young SGP team, and we are not anything close to what we were a year ago, yet. This is a rebuilding year for us, even though we still have a chance to make the playoffs and I think we will. I am a realist, so I see things for how they really are. We are a good defensive team and are improving on offense every week. However, Arlington Bowie would put up 30 on us if we were to play them right now. They have my respect, and they earned it when going into CHills house and beating them by 2 scores.


GO WARRIORS
GO VOLS

My 2 favorite teams:D, but SGP has my heart!

[sgp3]

Keeping a defense fresh has nothing to do with serious injury you can play one play and get injury that just the part of the game. Take for example #75 he play about 12 plays this year and he got hurt. If you going to get hurt you going to get hurt that just the game. SGP did not have long drives against GP are Irving that had short fields. When you have long drives that mean more chances for turnovers I say SGP should come out being the aggressive this is HOMECOMING keep the fan in the game. :D
A good way to do that is to control the TOP. I agree with Hollywood, we need to have long drives and keep the defense fresh. Also, keeping a defense fresh reduces the chances of serious injuries.

[hollywood]

To be honest I could care less about what Bowie does over there and I would rather be 2-4 then 6-0 as long as it a Warrior 2-4:D And again I said Warriors are 2-1 in district and that's where it all counts.:D I root for one team only!!:D And that happen to be the WARRIORS!!!:DAt least your one team is the right team. I also root for Navy.:)

I hope we play Bowie in the playoffs for many years to come!

2-1 in district. Thats it. Man 3-1 would be very very sweet indeed.

24 hours from now I will be plunked down in my seat. I will focused on the big game to come. I won't be able to see the field though. Its homecomng and all that that entails. For at least the first half there will be folks milling around and socializing. Which is just fine. Folks that usually don't come to the games will be up and down and up and down and up and down at critical points in the game like 4th and 1 ...

But hopefully in the second half I will be able to see some football.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Keeping a defense fresh has nothing to do with serious injury you can play one play and get injury that just the part of the game. Take for example #75 he play about 12 plays this year and he got hurt. If you going to get hurt you going to get hurt that just the game. SGP did not have long drives against GP are Irving that had short fields. When you have long drives that mean more chances for turnovers I say SGP should come out being the aggressive this is HOMECOMING keep the fan in the game. :D

I know that injuries can happen at anytime in a game, it has happened many times before on the first play of a game. I am just saying it increases the chances, especially for the bigger guys on the line that get tired quicker.

[sgp3]

I don;t think Bowie would put up 30 on us what you fail to understand playing Bowie would be a rivarly game to us like GP. Most of the kids know one another from playing AAU ball together and just hainging together so it would be rivarly and when you have that mix anything can happen. U can call it rebuilding but rebuilding don't count when you have had the same kids in your system for over 4 years now and this 7 game it is what it is it football and the SGP players don't think like that, they are saying win one at time:D
I hate to say this because it is bad for my Warriors, but that win means absolutely nothing now. We have practically all new offensive personnel on this young SGP team, and we are not anything close to what we were a year ago, yet. This is a rebuilding year for us, even though we still have a chance to make the playoffs and I think we will. I am a realist, so I see things for how they really are. We are a good defensive team and are improving on offense every week. However, Arlington Bowie would put up 30 on us if we were to play them right now. They have my respect, and they earned it when going into CHills house and beating them by 2 scores.


GO WARRIORS
GO VOLS

My 2 favorite teams:D, but SGP has my heart!

[sgp3]

U must have not check on DL line it only one big guy on there, come on guy you have to go get to the games more and SGP is rotating linemen at least they did last week:D
I know that injuries can happen at anytime in a game, it has happened many times before on the first play of a game. I am just saying it increases the chances, especially for the bigger guys on the line that get tired quicker.

[sgp3]

It can happen on a long drives as well. But at the end of the day lace them up and let play:Censor: football I'm pump:D
I know that injuries can happen at anytime in a game, it has happened many times before on the first play of a game. I am just saying it increases the chances, especially for the bigger guys on the line that get tired quicker.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I don;t think Bowie would put up 30 on us what you fail to understand playing Bowie would be a rivarly game to us like GP. Most of the kids know one another from playing AAU ball together and just hainging together so it would be rivarly and when you have that mix anything can happen. U can call it rebuilding but rebuilding don't count when you have had the same kids in your system for over 4 years now and this 7 game it is what it is it football and the SGP players don't think like that, they are saying win one at time:D

And I never said they didn't think that way, I agree. One game at a time is the way to think right now. SGP, TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS THIS WEEK!:D

[hollywood]

I don;t think Bowie would put up 30 on us what you fail to understand playing Bowie would be a rivarly game to us like GP. Most of the kids know one another from playing AAU ball together and just hainging together so it would be rivarly and when you have that mix anything can happen. U can call it rebuilding but rebuilding don't count when you have had the same kids in your system for over 4 years now and this 7 game it is what it is it football and the SGP players don't think like that, they are saying win one at time:D

I hear ya. I think what would be different is that there is really a disdain and dislike of GP in general. GP for example will boo the SGP alma mater whereas SGP has too much class to do that to GP. Bowie would be a great rivalry though because the kids do know each other. Similar to GP. So I do agree. Its just that GP has a whole other flavor to it.

[hollywood]

Sedric Bates will run and gun his way to 130+ rushing and 250+ yards passing as Will Adams has a breakout game scoring two TDs on offense and one on defense.

[sgp3]

U must been reading my mind because I just told both of them because Sedric is over here eating my food :D told them both it time to have a breakout game nothing like Homecoming to do it:D
Sedric Bates will run and gun his way to 130+ rushing and 250+ yards passing as Will Adams has a breakout game scoring two TDs on offense and one on defense.

[hollywood]

U must been reading my mind because I just told both of them because Sedric is over here eating my food :D told them both it time to have a breakout game nothing like Homecoming to do it:DLOL. That's great. Feed those kids right.:)

[Vols4Ever]

I started going to SGP games since birth, (1976), and my dad was a member of SGP Quarterback Club for almost 20 years, and was a former player(1970-1972) under Coach Patton. My family is personal friends with all 3 coaches in SGP's history.

I played pee-wee football and baseball with Anthony Bookman when I lived in the SGP attendance zone. So I know the history of SGP very very well. And prior to the 1990's, it was not good at all.
I know that SGP went the entirety of the 1970's without making the playoffs. Then it was at least the mid 80's before they made the playoffs. Grand Prairie was the power back then. I remember SGP being on the wrong side of many "North-South" games.

SGP had about a decade and a half of futility before they were anything to write home about. Then along came Anthony Bookman, then BJ Johnson, along with David Thompson pretty much changing the old offense Patton ran. SGP started to get good. Then got really good and should have won state in 1999 without a botched call vs Garland (I was there).

My point? Well, Bowie had 7 varsity seasons (1975 to 1982) before it was closed, missing the playoffs by 1 game in 1982 with a team that should have been in 3A. Bowie re-opens in 91, starts varsity in 92 and it takes Bowie 16 years before they had a winning season. If you take SGP's decade and a half of futility, and Bowie's since 1992, there is not that much of a difference. SGP has had 11 more seasons played than Bowie has. Not to mention, our school lost 1/3 of it's students to Seguin in 2000 - something you can not understand over there in GP with only 2 schools since '72.

But there is also 1 little other detail I found out sgp3 --- can you tell me the ONLY school in either Arlington or Grand Prairie that Bowie has a winning record against historically? I rest my case. If you want to talk history, then don't forget that detail.

One other thing sgp3 -- I hope you don't talk the way you compose sentences. Also, I did a recount over the last 5 years and I have been to 19 SGP games including 3 playoffs games. I was at every SGP game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons (family on team).

As far as the rivalry talk with SGP - more kids on Bowie played FB in Arlington Optimist that in GP Pee wee. And our rival is not SGP -- it is Martin and Sam Houston, and therefore, this would NOT be a rivalry game in my opinion to anyone outside of the Oak Hollow are, which has the boundary running right between it.

Much love to Hollywood and SGP Warriror 06. Good luck guys. And don't take my comments directed at SGP3 as intended for you. He talks -- and I talk back, because I am sick of his general demeanor towards Bowie.

[hollywood]

I started going to SGP games since birth, (1976), and my dad was a member of SGP Quarterback Club for almost 20 years, and was a former player(1970-1972) under Coach Patton. My family is personal friends with all 3 coaches in SGP's history.

I played pee-wee football and baseball with Anthony Bookman when I lived in the SGP attendance zone. So I know the history of SGP very very well. And prior to the 1990's, it was not good at all.
I know that SGP went the entirety of the 1970's without making the playoffs. Then it was at least the mid 80's before they made the playoffs. Grand Prairie was the power back then. I remember SGP being on the wrong side of many "North-South" games.

SGP had about a decade and a half of futility before they were anything to write home about. Then along came Anthony Bookman, then BJ Johnson, along with David Thompson pretty much changing the old offense Patton ran. SGP started to get good. Then got really good and should have won state in 1999 without a botched call vs Garland (I was there).

My point? Well, Bowie had 7 varsity seasons (1975 to 1982) before it was closed, missing the playoffs by 1 game in 1982 with a team that should have been in 3A. Bowie re-opens in 91, starts varsity in 92 and it takes Bowie 16 years before they had a winning season. If you take SGP's decade and a half of futility, and Bowie's since 1992, there is not that much of a difference. SGP has had 11 more seasons played than Bowie has. Not to mention, our school lost 1/3 of it's students to Seguin in 2000 - something you can not understand over there in GP with only 2 schools since '72.

But there is also 1 little other detail I found out sgp3 --- can you tell me the ONLY school in either Arlington or Grand Prairie that Bowie has a winning record against historically? I rest my case. If you want to talk history, then don't forget that detail.

One other thing sgp3 -- I hope you don't talk the way you compose sentences. Also, I did a recount over the last 5 years and I have been to 19 SGP games including 3 playoffs games. I was at every SGP game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons (family on team).

As far as the rivalry talk with SGP - more kids on Bowie played FB in Arlington Optimist that in GP Pee wee. And our rival is not SGP -- it is Martin and Sam Houston, and therefore, this would NOT be a rivalry game in my opinion to anyone outside of the Oak Hollow are, which has the boundary running right between it.

Much love to Hollywood and SGP Warriror 06. Good luck guys. And don't take my comments directed at SGP3 as intended for you. He talks -- and I talk back, because I am sick of his general demeanor towards Bowie.

Keep the faith brotha.:)

Bowie has earned a great deal of respect already. Its only just started. You guys have the coach now that I truly believe can start a solid program. That does take time, but Bowie has a nice start at it.

[sgp3]

WOW you got history so why u where doing all that stuff youngster I was serving and protecting you so you could go watch some football games 20 year NAVY sailor!!:D So what have u done for your country not a :Censor:thing. It not my fault you had to live here all your life. Now back to you, youngster because if you want really want to go there I can and yes I was at the 1999 game as well my wife is graduate of SGP as well class of 87and her sibling. The key word you said your family meaning your dad and mom are personal friends with the Coaches and guess what none of that means a hill of beans to me. And you only been to 19 games and 3 playoff games in five years hmmm I been to more then that the past 3 years and all the playoffs games. I could care less about Bowie my son attend SGP and I support him and the Warriors and when he leaves SGP I will go to watch the Warriors play because I know a lot of the JV players and the 9th graders players see the different between me and you youngster and yes I said youngster I know the players that actually play for the school and I know the parents I don't just follow a team I get to know the players that are playing and I talk to the players. So youngster when you get more involed in the community then talk to me but until then :Music And if u so sick guess where you can go :Censor:

And because u played football with someone that does not mean a hill beans I played with guys in high school but that don't mean a thing to me. So at the end day I will say it again BOWIE still has not done:Censor:!! And that want change th until they win district or a playoff game.
I started going to SGP games since birth, (1976), and my dad was a member of SGP Quarterback Club for almost 20 years, and was a former player(1970-1972) under Coach Patton. My family is personal friends with all 3 coaches in SGP's history.

I played pee-wee football and baseball with Anthony Bookman when I lived in the SGP attendance zone. So I know the history of SGP very very well. And prior to the 1990's, it was not good at all.

I know that SGP went the entirety of the 1970's without making the playoffs. Then it was at least the mid 80's before they made the playoffs. Grand Prairie was the power back then. I remember SGP being on the wrong side of many "North-South" games.

SGP had about a decade and a half of futility before they were anything to write home about. Then along came Anthony Bookman, then BJ Johnson, along with David Thompson pretty much changing the old offense Patton ran. SGP started to get good. Then got really good and should have won state in 1999 without a botched call vs Garland (I was there).

My point? Well, Bowie had 7 varsity seasons (1975 to 1982) before it was closed, missing the playoffs by 1 game in 1982 with a team that should have been in 3A. Bowie re-opens in 91, starts varsity in 92 and it takes Bowie 16 years before they had a winning season. If you take SGP's decade and a half of futility, and Bowie's since 1992, there is not that much of a difference. SGP has had 11 more seasons played than Bowie has. Not to mention, our school lost 1/3 of it's students to Seguin in 2000 - something you can not understand over there in GP with only 2 schools since '72.

But there is also 1 little other detail I found out sgp3 --- can you tell me the ONLY school in either Arlington or Grand Prairie that Bowie has a winning record against historically? I rest my case. If you want to talk history, then don't forget that detail.

One other thing sgp3 -- I hope you don't talk the way you compose sentences. Also, I did a recount over the last 5 years and I have been to 19 SGP games including 3 playoffs games. I was at every SGP game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons (family on team).

As far as the rivalry talk with SGP - more kids on Bowie played FB in Arlington Optimist that in GP Pee wee. And our rival is not SGP -- it is Martin and Sam Houston, and therefore, this would NOT be a rivalry game in my opinion to anyone outside of the Oak Hollow are, which has the boundary running right between it.

Much love to Hollywood and SGP Warriror 06. Good luck guys. And don't take my comments directed at SGP3 as intended for you. He talks -- and I talk back, because I am sick of his general demeanor towards Bowie.

[rsbigred]

Ill tell you right know i know ld bell will win this game because sgp lost 4 def starts because of grades so they will be playing as a jv team on defense which isnt good already. i played ld bell last week and they are a good team there front line isnt bad and they have a awesome running back. but the best part about ld bell is there o line they have a soild oline that should get good push off the line against a pretty small defensive tackles for sgp. so look for piper to have a huge game.

[sgp3]

That is so funny SGP did not lose no 4 defense starter because of grades WOW! U are so misinform for real:eek: WOW!!
Ill tell you right know i know ld bell will win this game because sgp lost 4 def starts because of grades so they will be playing as a jv team on defense which isnt good already. i played ld bell last week and they are a good team there front line isnt bad and they have a awesome running back. but the best part about ld bell is there o line they have a soild oline that should get good push off the line against a pretty small defensive tackles for sgp. so look for piper to have a huge game.

[sgp3]

I starting center I think you need be getting ready for ET and not worry about L.D. Bell and SGP game. Because ET going to bring it and you should have been sleep so win you all lose don't be the reason why:D
Ill tell you right know i know ld bell will win this game because sgp lost 4 def starts because of grades so they will be playing as a jv team on defense which isnt good already. i played ld bell last week and they are a good team there front line isnt bad and they have a awesome running back. but the best part about ld bell is there o line they have a soild oline that should get good push off the line against a pretty small defensive tackles for sgp. so look for piper to have a huge game.

[rsbigred]

Think what you want but i was told by are coaches that they did. And are game should be on your mind believe me we will come prepared. And SGP isnt what they used to be they have a losing mentality right know and its going to last the rest of the season, they will be good again next year but this season is lost. It happend to us last year yall have some great athletes but it just wont happen

[WOS87]

So I know the history of SGP very very well. And prior to the 1990's, it was not good at all.
I know that SGP went the entirety of the 1970's without making the playoffs. Then it was at least the mid 80's before they made the playoffs. Grand Prairie was the power back then. I remember SGP being on the wrong side of many "North-South" games.

I hate to contradict you Vols... but SGP made the playoffs their last year in 3A ('75) and first year in 4A ('76), and their peak all-time winning percentage was in 1976, so they weren't THAT bad... SGP beat GP the first 3 times they played, which was in '74, '75, and '76.

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[sgp3]

WOW your coaches are misinform for real because SGP did not 4 players dude to grades, that funny a losing mentality you know nothing about SGP at don't you need to be class somewhere and this season is not lost youngester I will tell you this if you don't have your helement screw on right tonight your season could be lost because ET going to hit you in the mouth and keep hitting you in the mouth. I will be seeing how well you play #61:D
Think what you want but i was told by are coaches that they did. And are game should be on your mind believe me we will come prepared. And SGP isnt what they used to be they have a losing mentality right know and its going to last the rest of the season, they will be good again next year but this season is lost. It happend to us last year yall have some great athletes but it just wont happen

[sgp3]

HEY I LOVE YOU man you can come to SGP thread anytime:D
QUOTE=WOS87;609364]I hate to contradict you Vols... but SGP made the playoffs their last year in 3A ('75) and first year in 4A ('76), and their peak all-time winning percentage was in 1976, so they weren't THAT bad... SGP beat GP the first 3 times they played, which was in '74, '75, and '76.

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[The Warrior]

Think what you want but i was told by are coaches that they did. And are game should be on your mind believe me we will come prepared. And SGP isnt what they used to be they have a losing mentality right know and its going to last the rest of the season, they will be good again next year but this season is lost. It happend to us last year yall have some great athletes but it just wont happen

Just because you lose to good teams, doesn't bring a losing mentality. It sometimes can strengthen a team, prepare them for district, and bring them together. SGP has been improving, so if you think it's going to be a cake walk, you will have a long night.

[The Warrior]

I agree, we need to keep our defense fresh to stop their good running attack late in the game. We need to eat that clock, and lead in the TOP category. If we can do that, we just might come out with the "W".

Keys to the Game:

1)Stop the run
2)Attack their QB on passing situations, don't wait to get picked apart
3)Pressure on the QB will cause mistakes, (Picks, Fumbles)
4)Attack on offense, throwing on 1st down, giving you options on 2nd and 3rd down.

Hit them, Hit them, then hit them again!

Go Warriors!

[The Warrior]

Sedric Bates will run and gun his way to 130+ rushing and 250+ yards passing as Will Adams has a breakout game scoring two TDs on offense and one on defense.

Chalk up a win, if that happens. I think the time is coming, Ive been on that band wagon all year. #1, #3, #19, and don't forget #11.:D

[The Warrior]

Keeping a defense fresh has nothing to do with serious injury you can play one play and get injury that just the part of the game. Take for example #75 he play about 12 plays this year and he got hurt. If you going to get hurt you going to get hurt that just the game. SGP did not have long drives against GP are Irving that had short fields. When you have long drives that mean more chances for turnovers I say SGP should come out being the aggressive this is HOMECOMING keep the fan in the game. :D

Atack, Attack and Attack again! I would rather have 3, 2 play drives, than 1 13 play drive. That's 21 points to 7 points. I'll take the 21 all day.

I have seen some weak DB's we have let off the hook this year, because we have been overly conserative at times.

Just my opinion!

Go Warriors!

[bleedblue]

I wouldn't go far enough to say that the 2007 Bell team is full of top flight recievers... I don't see any group of Bell recievers in the near future topping the 2005 squad of recievers, maybe I am biased because that was my team, but beating the recievers we had that year will be hard to top.

[hollywood]

Think what you want but i was told by are coaches that they did. And are game should be on your mind believe me we will come prepared. And SGP isnt what they used to be they have a losing mentality right know and its going to last the rest of the season, they will be good again next year but this season is lost. It happend to us last year yall have some great athletes but it just wont happen

Stay focused. Good luck against ET.

[hollywood]

I hate to contradict you Vols... but SGP made the playoffs their last year in 3A ('75) and first year in 4A ('76), and their peak all-time winning percentage was in 1976, so they weren't THAT bad... SGP beat GP the first 3 times they played, which was in '74, '75, and '76.

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Wow. You da man!!:D Thanks.

[hollywood]

WOW you got history so why u where doing all that stuff youngster I was serving and protecting you so you could go watch some football games 20 year NAVY sailor!! So what have u done for your country not a :Censor:thing. It not my fault you had to live here all your life. Now back to you, youngster because if you want really want to go there I can and yes I was at the 1999 game as well my wife is graduate of SGP as well class of 87and her sibling. The key word you said your family meaning your dad and mom are personal friends with the Coaches and guess what none of that means a hill of beans to me. And you only been to 19 games and 3 playoff games in five years hmmm I been to more then that the past 3 years and all the playoffs games. I could care less about Bowie my son attend SGP and I support him and the Warriors and when he leaves SGP I will go to watch the Warriors play because I know a lot of the JV players and the 9th graders players see the different between me and you youngster and yes I said youngster I know the players that actually play for the school and I know the parents I don't just follow a team I get to know the players that are playing and I talk to the players. So youngster when you get more involed in the community then talk to me but until then :Music And if u so sick guess where you can go :Censor:

And because u played football with someone that does not mean a hill beans I played with guys in high school but that don't mean a thing to me. So at the end day I will say it again BOWIE still has not done:Censor:!! And that want change th until they win district or a playoff game.

Sgp3, When I read your post I keep thinking Chef from South Park.:D No offense! Go Navy. I would have been an officer but my parents were married to each other and therefore I did not qualify.

[hollywood]

Just because you lose to good teams, doesn't bring a losing mentality. It sometimes can strengthen a team, prepare them for district, and bring them together. SGP has been improving, so if you think it's going to be a cake walk, you will have a long night.I was looking last night at how the teams we lost to were doing and they have not been too shabby.

[The Warrior]

I was looking last night at how the teams we lost to were doing and they have not been too shabby.

19-5 last i checked, not shabby at all.

[The Warrior]

17-15 in the polls, I see an upset brewing!:mad:

[trojanbacker]

Good luck SGP. I'll be pulling for you. I'm for anyone playing against Bell.

[Vols4Ever]

I hate to contradict you Vols... but SGP made the playoffs their last year in 3A ('75) and first year in 4A ('76), and their peak all-time winning percentage was in 1976, so they weren't THAT bad... SGP beat GP the first 3 times they played, which was in '74, '75, and '76.

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Unlike SGP3, I can admit when I was wrong.

I remember some putrid days in the 80's as a kid watching SGP games.

[sgp3]

I thought I told you what u do is consider stalking, I am going have to watch you because you pay to much attention to what I do and say, I hate I have that much effect on you.:D
Unlike SGP3, I can admit when I was wrong.

I remember some putrid days in the 80's as a kid watching SGP games.

[Vols4Ever]

WOW you got history so why u where doing all that stuff youngster I was serving and protecting you so you could go watch some football games 20 year NAVY sailor!!:D So what have u done for your country not a :Censor:thing. It not my fault you had to live here all your life. Now back to you, youngster because if you want really want to go there I can and yes I was at the 1999 game as well my wife is graduate of SGP as well class of 87and her sibling. The key word you said your family meaning your dad and mom are personal friends with the Coaches and guess what none of that means a hill of beans to me. And you only been to 19 games and 3 playoff games in five years hmmm I been to more then that the past 3 years and all the playoffs games. I could care less about Bowie my son attend SGP and I support him and the Warriors and when he leaves SGP I will go to watch the Warriors play because I know a lot of the JV players and the 9th graders players see the different between me and you youngster and yes I said youngster I know the players that actually play for the school and I know the parents I don't just follow a team I get to know the players that are playing and I talk to the players. So youngster when you get more involed in the community then talk to me but until then :Music And if u so sick guess where you can go

And because u played football with someone that does not mean a hill beans I played with guys in high school but that don't mean a thing to me. So at the end day I will say it again BOWIE still has not done:Censor:!! And that want change th until they win district or a playoff game.

I salute your military service, but I have no idea why that has anything to do with this.

Military or not, it's quite evident that you are a prìck and a person who can not even compose a competent sentence correctly. Your inability to give any credit at all to Bowie, when week in and week out you doubt them, indeed bothers me. I have always been supportive of our neighbors to the East when we were not playing them. After all, Bowie zone covers lots of southern GP area too.

I give SGP credit for having better school spirit, better football history, and for winning multiple district titles and having several playoff appearances. But somehow, Bowie beating the state champs in the course of being 6-0 is not good enough for one damn positive word from you. Your peers who cheer for SGP have been much more courteous and positive. To bad you can't take a cue from them.

As I said earlier, you would be the first person to spew your venom if Bowie lost a game you predicted them to lose. But you say nothing when you are wrong. Your pride, your arrogance, and your inability to communicate effectively without repetitive :Censor: words indicate your lack of tact, humility, and general intelligence.

I am glad Bowie is 6-0, and I do not think Bowie is the greatest team ever. I have no delusions of grandeur, nor do I make any claims on a team history that is close to what SGP has accomplished. But I do know that this is 2007, that we are still undefeated after playing better teams and in a better district that 7-5A, and that most dfw HS football fans in their right mind would dismiss your "unimpressed" attitude towards Bowie as outrageous.

You say you don't care about Bowie.... but you are certainly a critic and a doubter week in and week out. And you have yet to say 1 positive thing about them.

Guess that bubble pass really annoys you. But let's not go there either....your whole rant on the bubble pass further proved your ignorance as well.

I am done addressing you. Everyone in this forum knows you are an åss. Your peers here even know it. But I guess they have a little more tact than I have left at this point.

[Vols4Ever]

I thought I told you what u do is consider stalking, I am going have to watch you because you pay to much attention to what I do and say, I hate I have that much effect on you.:D

Sure, your general demeanor and attitude bothers me.

But I am more concerned now about your mastery of the English language. I recommend remedial adult English classes. They offer them at Mountain View and TCC I bet.

It might help you understand the definition of stalking too. My first post on this topic was made without any thought toward you at all.

[Vols4Ever]

SGP will win this game by 1 TD -- 17-10.

[sgp3]

WOW you making personal attacks! That real big of you and I will say again you can't and want change my thoughts on Bowie not matter what you said or how much you tried to hype things up with them win a district championship or even a playoff game and then maybe just maybe we can talk and again it go to see you I have that kind of affect on you thank you for letting me have control of your thoughts process youngster.

And if you care to look I have not said nothing about Bowie since they beat Cedar Hill so please stop stalking me on this board :D I like your personal attacks on me that show you are small person in my books because see you can't control what I say are how I said it, and check this out BOWIE still has not done :Censor:thing:Music
:D
I salute your military service, but I have no idea why that has anything to do with this.

Military or not, it's quite evident that you are a prìck and a person who can not even compose a competent sentence correctly. Your inability to give any credit at all to Bowie, when week in and week out you doubt them, indeed bothers me. I have always been supportive of our neighbors to the East when we were not playing them. After all, Bowie zone covers lots of southern GP area too.

I give SGP credit for having better school spirit, better football history, and for winning multiple district titles and having several playoff appearances. But somehow, Bowie beating the state champs in the course of being 6-0 is not good enough for one damn positive word from you. Your peers who cheer for SGP have been much more courteous and positive. To bad you can't take a cue from them.

As I said earlier, you would be the first person to spew your venom if Bowie lost a game you predicted them to lose. But you say nothing when you are wrong. Your pride, your arrogance, and your inability to communicate effectively without repetitive :Censor: words indicate your lack of tact, humility, and general intelligence.

I am glad Bowie is 6-0, and I do not think Bowie is the greatest team ever. I have no delusions of grandeur, nor do I make any claims on a team history that is close to what SGP has accomplished. But I do know that this is 2007, that we are still undefeated after playing better teams and in a better district that 7-5A, and that most dfw HS football fans in their right mind would dismiss your "unimpressed" attitude towards Bowie as outrageous.

You say you don't care about Bowie.... but you are certainly a critic and a doubter week in and week out. And you have yet to say 1 positive thing about them.

Guess that bubble pass really annoys you. But let's not go there either....your whole rant on the bubble pass further proved your ignorance as well.

I am done addressing you. Everyone in this forum knows you are an åss. Your peers here even know it. But I guess they have a little more tact than I have left at this point.

[sgp3]

I am glad I can do that for you and guess what BOWIE still has not done a:Censor: thing:Music
Sure, your general demeanor and attitude bothers me.

But I am more concerned now about your mastery of the English language. I recommend remedial adult English classes. They offer them at Mountain View and TCC I bet.

It might help you understand the definition of stalking too. My first post on this topic was made without any thought toward you at all.

[hollywood]

SGP will win this game by 1 TD -- 17-10.I like your optimism.:) If the score is low I think it does favor SGP. I am not so sure we will hold Bell to this few points. Awesome if we do. Hope you are right.

[Vols4Ever]

I am glad I can do that for you and guess what BOWIE still has not done a:Censor: thing:Music

And in 2007 --- SGP has done nothing. And all that really matters is this year right now doesn't it.

I will take my 6-0. You can keep your 2-4.

You talked down to me first jack@ss. Pardon my curt replies. Your English still sucks, and you show how small you are with every post. Have you ever heard of putting a period at the end of a sentence? Or using paragraphs?

I love your "stalker" claim; as if I look for everything you say and reply to it.

Oh yeah -- 2-4. Two can play at this child's game.

[Vols4Ever]

I like your optimism.:) If the score is low I think it does favor SGP. I am not so sure we will hold Bell to this few points. Awesome if we do. Hope you are right.

I do too Hollywood. I would rather see SGP make the playoffs than Bell or Jesuit.

[sgp3]

But see I don't look for what you say because I don't care. And again let me see you live where Cedar Hill but like Bowie:confused: Yeah but it takes a real man to stick with a team when they are down but you not know nothing about being a real man because you have so many different teams that you like. Damn now I am:Censor: WOW I would like to say thanks for calling me that:D See it nothing you can say that can piss me off.

And futhermore if SGP was 0-6 I would still be talking the same way see youngster I don't change I remind the same all the time:D So if you going to have these war of words with me you have lost already

And in 2007 --- SGP has done nothing. And all that really matters is this year right now doesn't it.

I will take my 6-0. You can keep your 2-4.

You talked down to me first jack@ss. Pardon my curt replies. Your English still sucks, and you show how small you are with every post. Have you ever heard of putting a period at the end of a sentence? Or using paragraphs?

I love your "stalker" claim; as if I look for everything you say and reply to it.

Oh yeah -- 2-4. Two can play at this child's game.

[hollywood]

SGP senior must stop tall Hurst Bell WR

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/football/stories/101807dnsposgpnote.17ef3bbc1.html

Hurst L.D. Bell vs. South Grand Prairie

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/football/stories/101807dnspobell.17e51e459.html

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

In the big picture of things this game really doesn't mean much. Neither team is a title contender. It might mean different seeding in the playoffs in the district. After round 2 all 75A will be done until 2008 rolls around.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Good luck SGP. I'll be pulling for you. I'm for anyone playing against Bell.

I'll second that! SGP, get your "stuff" together and beat Bell.

[The Warrior]

SGP will win this game by 1 TD -- 17-10.

I'll take that!:D

[hollywood]

In the big picture of things this game really doesn't mean much. Neither team is a title contender. It might mean different seeding in the playoffs in the district. After round 2 all 75A will be done until 2008 rolls around.

I hear ya. I think it means a lot to these schools of course. I don't mind admitting that much of my thoughts on this look to next year. So to that end this is pretty important to SGP. This is like a milestone. A measurement. If this falls short then getting to the playoffs would be tough but not impossible. I think it is important for teams looking towards next year to at least make the playoffs. This sets a much better expectation for the next year. Don't you think?

[sgp3]

Now you know the future:eek::D
In the big picture of things this game really doesn't mean much. Neither team is a title contender. It might mean different seeding in the playoffs in the district. After round 2 all 75A will be done until 2008 rolls around.

[sgp3]

Next year football teams don't play of next year because none of that is promise you play now:D
I hear ya. I think it means a lot to these schools of course. I don't mind admitting that much of my thoughts on this look to next year. So to that end this is pretty important to SGP. This is like a milestone. A measurement. If this falls short then getting to the playoffs would be tough but not impossible. I think it is important for teams looking towards next year to at least make the playoffs. This sets a much better expectation for the next year. Don't you think?

[sgp3]

Your nephew is not playing tonight #74
I'll take that!:D

[hollywood]

Next year football teams don't play of next year because none of that is promise you play now:D

Tomorrow is promised to no one. We all have to live for today. Some of us could be run over by an SUV after one of the games. Some of us have a better chance of that than others. However, it is also about development. Yes, coaches do make decisions and plan for next year. That is a big part of their job. Its kinda like playing pool. You don't just make a shot because it is there. You take the shot with thoughts of the next few shots in hoping to run the table. I am not talking about what kids/players think. I am talking about what coaches must do. It takes maturity to keep an eye on the future. Ever notice that some schools have what they call a program? Not just a good year here and there. That is not by accident.

[The Warrior]

In the big picture of things this game really doesn't mean much. Neither team is a title contender. It might mean different seeding in the playoffs in the district. After round 2 all 75A will be done until 2008 rolls around.

In our little SGP world it's would mean alot to the kids if they can battle back from a 0-4 start to make just to the 3rd or 4th spot. A State title maybe not, but there is only one champion in D1, so do we all quit palying now, because it might not be us?:confused:

[The Warrior]

Your nephew is not playing tonight #74

I know, I was disappointed to hear that. He looked to be playing pretty well. How did he look on film?

[sgp3]

Those players where not worry about 0-4 start to be honest, because they knew this year that would compete hard and they have see it look everyone on here worry about the pre-district that stuff mean nothing. After tonight you will no more about this team then normal:D
In our little SGP world it's would mean alot to the kids if they can battle back from a 0-4 start to make just to the 3rd or 4th spot. A State title maybe not, but there is only one champion in D1, so do we all quit palying now, because it might not be us?:confused:

[hollywood]

In our little SGP world it's would mean alot to the kids if they can battle back from a 0-4 start to make just to the 3rd or 4th spot. A State title maybe not, but there is only one champion in D1, so do we all quit palying now, because it might not be us?:confused:

Right. I enjoy Texas HS Football for what it is. As they say, enjoy the journey. Its not only about winning a championship. Coming back from 0-4 and making the playoffs and giving your best is actually reward in itself.
That pays off later in life. Seriously it does. How many of these young folks will make their living playing football? But many if not most will succeed in life in no small part to their participation in this endeavor.

There are some talented and fortunate players that will sign with some college programs. Yes, even from non-championship teams. There are players that are on the bubble for these opportunities who may from having the opportunity to play in the post season show get offered a scholarship from this exposure.

Also, we have seen some very good teams go to the playoffs, only to be in utter awe when they enter Texas Stadium. It is good for the players to get some playoff experience, even if they don't win state.

[The Warrior]

Those players where not worry about 0-4 start to be honest, because they knew this year that would compete hard and they have see it look everyone on here worry about the pre-district that stuff mean nothing. After tonight you will no more about this team then normal:D

No worries Mate, Most of us knew we would probably lose 3 or all 4 of the first 4 games. But to start 0-4, then make some noise in the playoffs, would show some heart from this team. That is all, cheif. See you at the game!:D

[Vols4Ever]

And again let me see you live where Cedar Hill but like Bowie:confused:

Hey idiot (aka sgp3) -- I graduated from Bowie High School.

I live in Cedar Hill. My allegiance has never changed. I am always for Bowie.

Not only can you not write sentences appropriately, you also do not pay attention very well, or there is not enough brain cell capacity in that empty skull.

I am no fair weather fan. But I am pretty sure an 0-10 season would find you nowhere to be found.

If SGP missed the playoffs you would disappear quickly. Everyone can count on that.

[The Warrior]

Right. I enjoy Texas HS Football for what it is. As they say, enjoy the journey. Its not only about winning a championship. Coming back from 0-4 and making the playoffs and giving your best is actually reward in itself.
That pays off later in life. Seriously it does. How many of these young folks will make their living playing football? But many if not most will succeed in life in no small part to their participation in this endeavor.

There are some talented and fortunate players that will sign with some college programs. Yes, even from non-championship teams. There are players that are on the bubble for these opportunities who may from having the opportunity to play in the post season show get offered a scholarship from this exposure.

Also, we have seen some very good teams go to the playoffs, only to be in utter awe when they enter Texas Stadium. It is good for the players to get some playoff experience, even if they don't win state.


Well Said.

[hollywood]

Those players where not worry about 0-4 start to be honest, because they knew this year that would compete hard and they have see it look everyone on here worry about the pre-district that stuff mean nothing. After tonight you will no more about this team then normal:DTrust me Sgp3, no matter what some teenage player initmates to you ... they care. It does matter. Players do not like to lose. Even in non district. Some may not absorb the full impact of coming back from 0-4 now. But when they mature a bit they will reflect on it one way or another.

Its like a conditioned response. You bench with chains so you learn to explode on the weight. So that later when it counts you perform as you trained. So it is with this. You can learn to overcome adversity or fail and say you don't care. The latter really sucks.

[Vols4Ever]

In our little SGP world it's would mean alot to the kids if they can battle back from a 0-4 start to make just to the 3rd or 4th spot. A State title maybe not, but there is only one champion in D1, so do we all quit palying now, because it might not be us?:confused:

No - you never give up. You always keep fighting the good fight until the final whistle.

Fisher will not let these kids just lay down and die. It is not in his nature. And usually, the kids take on the nature of their coach.

[sgp3]

Hey Idiot (aka Vols4Evers) I was wondering what happen to you now you said it all you graduated from Bowie dang the bad luck for you, now I see what wrong with you. See we don't have to worry about SGP going over 0-10 now do we:D That damn AISD education does it everytime.
Hey idiot (aka sgp3) -- I graduated from Bowie High School.

I live in Cedar Hill. My allegiance has never changed. I am always for Bowie.

Not only can you not write sentences appropriately, you also do not pay attention very well, or there is not enough brain cell capacity in that empty skull.

I am no fair weather fan. But I am pretty sure an 0-10 season would find you nowhere to be found.

If SGP missed the playoffs you would disappear quickly. Everyone can count on that.

[sgp3]

See Hollywood you really don't know the 09 class at all I been knowing that group kids for over 5 years now and belive me I said this that don't care really because they knew the 08 class was not going to help them out that much see if this was next year they would be mad and piss but not this year they are just having fun playing football like they have always done.:D
Trust me Sgp3, no matter what some teenage player initmates to you ... they care. It does matter. Players do not like to lose. Even in non district. Some may not absorb the full impact of coming back from 0-4 now. But when they mature a bit they will reflect on it one way or another.

Its like a conditioned response. You bench with chains so you learn to explode on the weight. So that later when it counts you perform as you trained. So it is with this. You can learn to overcome adversity or fail and say you don't care. The latter really sucks.

[hollywood]

No - you never give up. You always keep fighting the good fight until the final whistle.

Fisher will not let these kids just lay down and die. It is not in his nature. And usually, the kids take on the nature of their coach.

I really appreciate that about Fisher. He is an emotional coach. We all know he has a designated coach to pull him off the field!!;) Emotion is a double edged sword. You live by it and die by it. Not always but most of the time SGP teams come out of the halftime really fired up.
There will be times later in their lives that they will be able to use what they learn from this. Never give up is right.

[sgp3]

The kids where playing football for Coach Fisher came to Texas to coach. If you look at SGP roster most of there starter are from the 09 class that what this team is really made up of and the different is 09 class parents most of the dads have play football or have coach them before they ever thought about going SGP.:D
No - you never give up. You always keep fighting the good fight until the final whistle.

Fisher will not let these kids just lay down and die. It is not in his nature. And usually, the kids take on the nature of their coach.

[hollywood]

See Hollywood you really don't know the 09 class at all I been knowing that group kids for over 5 years now and belive me I said this that don't care really because they knew the 08 class was not going to help them out that much see if this was next year they would be mad and piss but not this year they are just having fun playing football like they have always done.:D

Sgp3. Bless your heart. Believe this if it makes you happy and bonded with these fine kids. Enjoy that. No one says they should not be playing for the love of the game. We are talking about big people stuff. The bigger picture. Thats what the adults have to do. At least the coaches. Fans can do what ever they wish.

[sgp3]

If you don't have the love of the game why even play it that why I play it and coach at until this year because I love it and still do love it:D
Sgp3. Bless your heart. Believe this if it makes you happy and bonded with these fine kids. Enjoy that. No one says they should not be playing for the love of the game. We are talking about big people stuff. The bigger picture. Thats what the adults have to do. At least the coaches. Fans can do what ever they wish.

[The Warrior]

Is the "Warrior" package in effect tonight? I heard #51 will get some defensive work tonight? I was looking for #22 to come with another big hit this week, out of the "small" package!:D

[hollywood]

The kids where playing football for Coach Fisher came to Texas to coach. If you look at SGP roster most of there starter are from the 09 class that what this team is really made up of and the different is 09 class parents most of the dads have play football or have coach them before they ever thought about going SGP.:D

And Coach Fisher will just have to work past that hurdle.

[sgp3]

#22 make one tackle you are funny and when I saw him this morning he had on pink for dress up day (LOL):Music
Is the "Warrior" package in effect tonight? I heard #51 will get some defensive work tonight? I was looking for #22 to come with another big hit this week, out of the "small" package!:D

[hollywood]

If you don't have the love of the game why even play it that why I play it and coach at until this year because I love it and still do love it:DYes. No one disputes that. These years are valuable for the players even if they only ever play at the high school level. This is good stuff.

[hollywood]

#22 make one tackle you are funny and when I saw him this morning he had on pink for dress up day (LOL):Music

I am sure he appreciates you posting that.:rolleyes:

[sgp3]

While you see that as a hurdle when it actually a blessing because if u take away #19 and #3 and number #74 and #11 and #1, #90, #40 should I keep going this season would be at a lost. And all of those are jr, what I am saying to you that have football homes and they play like it something a coach can't teach.
And Coach Fisher will just have to work past that hurdle.

[The Warrior]

If you don't have the love of the game why even play it that why I play it and coach at until this year because I love it and still do love it:D

Some play it to pay for a semi-free 4-5 yr college education. Nothing is free free. :)

[sgp3]

U have to know the kid Hollywood and oh by the way that is nickname Hollywood:D
I am sure he appreciates you posting that.:rolleyes: