How Did They Win The Championship??!!!

[ThEgReAtOnE]

We can talk about the teams that are regarded as the greatest...the teams that had the best records and athletes...but what about those teams that were decent, athletically, and somewhat solid, altogether, yet they fought through the regular season, barely winning each game....and when it came to the playoffs they JUST got by opponents and somehow came away from it all with a State Title!!!

My question...

Name the teams that were decent, at best, yet came away with the title??!!!


Goodluck!! And....play nice!!! :D

[drgnbkr]

Tyler Lee last year...they lost 3 games right?

[eagleike]

If you win a title in 5A Texas football you are more than decent no matter what your record or stats.

I mean look at all the Judson titles in the 90's- a lack of talent but still beat the best ;)

[RidgePride]

We can talk about the teams that are regarded as the greatest...the teams that had the best records and athletes...but what about those teams that were decent, athletically, and somewhat solid, altogether, yet they fought through the regular season, barely winning each game....and when it came to the playoffs they JUST got by opponents and somehow came away from it all with a State Title!!!

My question...

Name the teams that were decent, at best, yet came away with the title??!!!


Goodluck!! And....play nice!!! :D
Grapevine comes to mind when they went 4A

[ThEgReAtOnE]

If you win a title in 5A Texas football you are more than decent no matter what your record or stats.

I mean look at all the Judson titles in the 90's- a lack of talent but still beat the best ;)

I understand what you're saying, but there's a difference between North Shore 2003 and Tyler Lee 2004. The quality and depth of the players.

Yes, the outcome is the same, but there is a difference....and I believe most people would agree. That difference is what I'm talking about! The teams that had a farely good QB, a "slower" RB, a small o-line...yet quick and versitle. A brainy, yet non-athletic defense. And despite all of this they won state!!!!

I've seen some teams like that....on the college level and the pro level.

Statwise and athletically, the New England Patriots don't overwhelm everyone with superior athletic talent, as did the Steelers of the 70's, 49er's of the 80's and Cowboys of the 90's, but as a unified team, they win!!

Name HS teams that have unified to WIN, despite not leading in the state or district stats, or being physically dominant!!

[clemensbuff]

If you win a title in 5A Texas football you are more than decent no matter what your record or stats.

I mean look at all the Judson titles in the 90's- a lack of talent but still beat the best ;)

You call Jarod Douglas a lack of talent? He was one of the best HS running backs to ever play the game in Texas. Had he made a different choice in colleges, he might still be playing today on Sundays. Baylor should have red-shirted him and put 20LBS of muscle on him before letting him go out and take a beating every week from 240 lb linebackers and 280 lb D-linemen. They flat took it away from him!

[Arazorback]

North Crowley two years ago. Weren't they "supposed" to lose almost every week in the playoffs?

[PantherStang84]

Lufkin 2001 comes to mind.

Had one great player by the name of Reggie McNeal. The rest were average players. No dominate running back, no dominate receivers, had some pretty players on defense, but the D gave up a fair share of points. However, the TEAM refused to quit even when 22 points down at the half in a cold driving rain storm. Sure, McNeal carried the team on his back at times, but one player can not win a championship.

[eagleike]

relax buffalo head.......I was being sarcastic

[Dallascaper]

Sure, McNeal carried the team on his back at times, but one player can not win a championship.

It's just my opinion, but in HS football, one player can dominate his peers, and whatever team he happens to be on gets the championship.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

It's just my opinion, but in HS football, one player can dominate his peers, and whatever team he happens to be on gets the championship.

Now that you bring it up....lets see if we can name some ONE-PLAYER State Championship Teams???!!!!


Meaning, for the most part, that team had ONE main star and everyone else was decent or average, at best. But that one player was the difference that helped produce a title!!!!

I'm thinking...

[Dallascaper]

Grapevine comes to mind when they went 4A

That will always be a tainted championship in my book. Grapevine was a 5A school, with 5A enrollment, and a 5A football program playing against 4A teams. Sad.

[Dallascaper]

Now that you bring it up....lets see if we can name some ONE-PLAYER State Championship Teams???!!!!


Meaning, for the most part, that team had ONE main star and everyone else was decent or average, at best. But that one player was the difference that helped produce a title!!!!

I'm thinking...

Here's one: Emmitt Smith (not Texas, but the point is valid)

Snip: (http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Smith_Emmitt.html)
"When Smith entered Escambia High School in 1983, the football team had no tradition of winning. The Gators only had one winning season in 18 years and were 3-27 in the previous three seasons. Smith led Escambia to state championships during his sophomore and junior seasons."

[KT2000]

If you are talking about an "overachieving" type team, I think Plano 1994 (3rd place in district) and Katy 2003 are good examples.

In 2003, I think everyone left Abe Martin Stadium convinced they'd just seen the future state champions...and they were wearing purple and white. That Tiger team steadily improved during the regular season and hit with full force during the playoffs.

In 94, Plano barely made the playoffs (finished reg. season 7-3 in a tough district) and then beat some very good teams on the way to state. They beat Permian 10-0 in Ratliff if I'm not mistaken and then beat a surging Katy team at Kyle Field to win it.

[myround0]

Earl "Tyler Rose" Campbell...Played at John Tyler...Linebacker and Tailback...one man gang, ask the NFL about him

[ThEgReAtOnE]

If you are talking about an "overachieving" type team, I think Plano 1994 (3rd place in district) and Katy 2003 are good examples.

In 2003, I think everyone left Abe Martin Stadium convinced they'd just seen the future state champions...and they were wearing purple and white. That Tiger team steadily improved during the regular season and hit with full force during the playoffs.

In 94, Plano barely made the playoffs (finished reg. season 7-3 in a tough district) and then beat some very good teams on the way to state. They beat Permian 10-0 in Ratliff if I'm not mistaken and then beat a surging Katy team at Kyle Field to win it.

Yeah...I remember Plano 94'!! Truly overachievers!!

[badger95]

Lufkin 2001 comes to mind.

Had one great player by the name of Reggie McNeal. The rest were average players. No dominate running back, no dominate receivers, had some pretty players on defense, but the D gave up a fair share of points. However, the TEAM refused to quit even when 22 points down at the half in a cold driving rain storm. Sure, McNeal carried the team on his back at times, but one player can not win a championship.

Ju Parks was a pretty dang good player too. As a matter of fact, had it not been for him, Westlake probably would have won that title game.

[DipnSpit]

Lufkin 2001 comes to mind.

Had one great player by the name of Reggie McNeal. The rest were average players. No dominate running back, no dominate receivers, had some pretty players on defense, but the D gave up a fair share of points. However, the TEAM refused to quit even when 22 points down at the half in a cold driving rain storm. Sure, McNeal carried the team on his back at times, but one player can not win a championship.

Lufkin 01? Give me a D1 standout off the last 5 state championship teams......

[DiamondJ2]

eagleike, Ike had more talent than the Rockets every year they played. difference: coaching & overconfident. sure wish Judson & Ike could match up again this year--Judson needs another trip to the finals.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

eagleike, Ike had more talent than the Rockets every year they played. difference: coaching & overconfident. sure wish Judson & Ike could match up again this year--Judson needs another trip to the finals.

Tellin' it like it is!!! Ouch!!! :D

[PantherStang84]

Lufkin 01? Give me a D1 standout off the last 5 state championship teams......

I'm not sure what the point of contention is.

The point I was trying to make is this...

Yes, McNeal was a special player and he lifted the team in critical situations. Look at how Lufkin won most of the games in the playoffs. By coming from behind in the the second half. I'm not saying the rest of the team was lousy. I'm just saying you could find players of their caliber on most 5A programs. The difference in that magical year was #16 and coaching. The coaches would not let the kids quit. The kids would not quit and #16 led the way.

Yes, Ju Parks was a pretty good player, but he wasn't the whole defense.

Two great ball players does not a championship make.

[nsmustang]

Now that you bring it up....lets see if we can name some ONE-PLAYER State Championship Teams???!!!!


Meaning, for the most part, that team had ONE main star and everyone else was decent or average, at best. But that one player was the difference that helped produce a title!!!!

I'm thinking...

Except for 2001 Madison with Vincent Young. As good as he was, they didn't get past Westlake to the title game.

[nsmustang]

Lufkin 01? Give me a D1 standout off the last 5 state championship teams......

Not sure what you are looking for on this but how about Bobby Reid from Shore in 03? The difference is that he had 21 other Mustangs that were at the top of their game and all exceptional athletes.