Strake Jesuit vs. Hastings

[htownfootball]

The Strake Jesuit Crusaders are coming off a district opening 31-0 win at Crump Stadium over Alief Taylor, who lost the number 1 tight end in the nation coming into the 05 season. Jesuit faces Hastings, who is coming off a 55-6 Katy loss at Rhodes Stadium. Hastings started the season strong with a close loss to Fort Bend powerhouse Hightower HS. Jesuit started strong going 3-0, which included a win over Baytown Lee. But several key injuries later and a heart attack to Coach Ron Counter put the season in doubt. Then Hurricane Rita came and delayed, and eventually had canceled by votes, all the 19-5A games for that week.
Players To Watch:
Hastings: Byron Johnson (RB), Charles Tolden (QB).
Strake Jesuit: Stephen Tyree (WR/FS), Tim Bandy (QB), Jonathan Moore (RB/DB), Scott Coffman (LB).
Prediction: Jesuit over Hastings.

Strake goes 2-0 in 19-5A and 5-0 over all heading into their game versus the Rams of Mayde Creek at Crusader Stadium before a homecoming crowd.
Hastings goes 0-2.

[ktrain]

Are you their press agent or what?

[ktCarl]

Hastings and Alief Taylor are the worst of Alief I.S.D. this year. Your only test from that district will be Elsik. Katy played Hastings last week and the Bears were woeful. The game didn't even merit a thread on this forum last week. Chalk up another win for the Crusaders.

[ktfiend]

Hastings and Alief Taylor are the worst of Alief I.S.D. this year. Your only test from that district will be Elsik. Katy played Hastings last week and the Bears were woeful. The game didn't even merit a thread on this forum last week. Chalk up another win for the Crusaders.

I agree, as much as it hurts me to say, it looks like the Crusaders will win this one without much of a challenge. :(

[Standing On Tradition KT]

Strake is going to walk all over Hastings.........Katy had the score 45-0 nothing at the half....the only reason not that many points were added was because almost all starters were pulled in the second half..........cake walk for strake

[tigersdad09]

yeah...you will walk all over Hasting's and probably most of Dist 19. but yall still have to live with the fact that yall DUCKED a big "L" by running from KATY. might be the only undefeated CHICKENS in 5A this year

[DipnSpit]

Why even make a thread about this and waste bandwidth? Everyone who cares knows what the outcome will be... Hastings wont be a challenge for anyone besides Elsik... and that's just because of the rivalry..

[eagleike]

Hey Jesuit fan:

Is it true you ran from playing Katy like little frightened school girls?

I heard you hid behind your mommas skirts. :eek:

[eagleike]

heck..........I wish that hurricane had hit the week before Ike played Lufkin.

[eagleike]

I refuse to let this post slide off the page until a Jesuit fan answers my question!!

[DipnSpit]

I refuse to let this post slide off the page until a Jesuit fan answers my question!!

Haha... awesome

[hornfan713]

Jesuit didn't run. District cancelled the game. there isn't anything we can do about it. We would have welcomed the challenge. I'd easily give the game to Katy this year, but I'd love to see how we'd stack up. Just a playoff birth for my alma mater would satisfy me.

[DipnSpit]

Jes ran... blame it on the principal.. he ran.. there was no reason not to make up the game, unless he was worried about the big L... look around.. somehow the majority of districts around Houston managed to come to decision..

[hornfan713]

something those schools DIDNT do was take on nearly an entire other school onto their campus like strake did. strake's principal is not a coward. if he voted no, it was because of circumstances relating to the extra kids. heck, coach counter had a heart attack and he STILL wanted to play katy. can you honestly call that cowardly?

[unoit]

Hornfan is a coward too. Cover up everything for them. 4 to 4 vote if stake wanted to play all they had to say was yes. Bottom Line. No if or buts or excuses. They figured they could make the playoffs if they didn't have to play Katy. All KISD schools voted yes. They don't have a chance in the playoffs but if it makes them feel good and they can live with taking the easy way out then what do you do but laugh at them. All it says it their coach and administration have no confidence in their kids. I'm sure the kids wanted to play. oh yeah .... Hornfan is a coward.

[hornfan713]

it takes a lot of guts calling someone a coward on the internet doesn't it unoit? makes you feel big doesn't it? call me what you will. i'll defend my school just like you defend yours. can you not accept that there might just have been certain circumstances that made jesuit's principal say no? and that sports ARENT the most important thing in the development of our youth?

[ktrain]

it takes a lot of guts calling someone a coward on the internet doesn't it unoit? makes you feel big doesn't it? call me what you will. i'll defend my school just like you defend yours. can you not accept that there might just have been certain circumstances that made jesuit's principal say no? and that sports ARENT the most important thing in the development of our youth?

Bottom line: SJ said no because the coach didn't want the loss. Great message for their kids. If you cant beat them, run from em!

[ktfiend]

something those schools DIDNT do was take on nearly an entire other school onto their campus like strake did. strake's principal is not a coward. if he voted no, it was because of circumstances relating to the extra kids. heck, coach counter had a heart attack and he STILL wanted to play katy. can you honestly call that cowardly?

That's bull! The SJ coach never had any intentions of playing Katy once the opportunity presented itself! All he did was show his kids how to 'play' the system. Hmmmmm.... I see a recurring theme here........

[ktCarl]

Strake should have just voted to play the game no matter what. Even with the loss Strake would still probably make the playoffs with 19-5A not being a powerhouse district this season. I believe the coaches and players would have rather played the game. This was an administrative decision. The Alief schools also voted with Strake. What did they have to gain?
Anyway, the Strake vs Katy (Strakegate) talk in Katy is getting tiresome. Nothing can be done about it.
This thread is about Hastings vs Strake and like I said earlier, Strake should have no problem winning this game.

[Tut]

Jesuit didn't run. District cancelled the game. there isn't anything we can do about it. We would have welcomed the challenge. I'd easily give the game to Katy this year, but I'd love to see how we'd stack up. Just a playoff birth for my alma mater would satisfy me.
District would have played the game if Strake had voted that way. that's what Strake could have done about it! :mad:

[Fleeman93]

The thing that stinks is that Strake isn't even that good and they will most likely get to hang a district champ banner. They have beat some bad teams at best and shouldn't be challenged in district since they aren't playing Katy. Hopefully they will lose to someone they shouldn't and it will become a non issue. They won't go far in the playoffs regardless.

[unoit]

Horn... defend your school. Make yourself feel better. Think of all the excuses you can so you can wake up in the morning and look yourself in the mirror and feel good. It would all be ok if you would just admitt that administators didn't want to play. The bottom line is the kids wanted to but ya'll could gain nothing so you didn't. It's ok, go hug your stake kid and tell him he would have won and he is the best then let him go to bed thinking he would have beat katy if some cowards would have voted yes. Horn horn horn... poor guy i do feel sorry for people like you. Fight till the very end even though you know it was wrong. Oh yeah, sports are very very important to the developement of Kids. Any thing they do in life is a competetion. As for as grades, getting a job and out working their competetion at the job. Unless of course you just shower you kid with money and tell him to sit on the couch the rest of his life. No.. I would have to say sports are very very important to a kid and his development. Oh yeah throw you kid an extra $100 for me.

[KT2000]

Apparently, I put this post in the wrong thread so I'll put it here...

Horn,

It had nothing to do with the second school session. Smart move on Coach Counter's part as far as the playoffs are concerned. He, like everyone else in attendance, knew what he saw on the field last year. A complete mismatch in every facet of the game. He obviously didn't think it beneficial for his football team to be tossed around for 48 minutes again and wants to keep confidence up.

However, I don't think it sends a very good message to his team. If I'm Strake's coach, I want to play Katy because that tells my team I'm willing to go into battle with them no matter how far outmatched and that we'll keep fighting. In the long run, I think that approach would prove far more valuable than the temporary sigh of relief you give them because you didn't play.

If Strake does end up winning out in district, and possibly win a share of the district title, I doubt the players will fully believe they deserve it (which is sad) since they didn't have to play what many consider to be the best overall program of the Houston area in the last 15 years.

I think all any Katy fan wanted out of this whole Strake ordeal was to play the game on the field and settle it there like it's supposed to be. However, that obviously wasn't in Strake's plans.

Strake may not have asked to be in 5A, but 5A didn't ask for Strake either. After all, we weren't the ones that had lawyers storming Austin with stacks of paper threatening to abolish the UIL if we didn't get our way.

[Oiler1]

it takes a lot of guts calling someone a coward on the internet doesn't it unoit? makes you feel big doesn't it? call me what you will. i'll defend my school just like you defend yours. can you not accept that there might just have been certain circumstances that made jesuit's principal say no? and that sports ARENT the most important thing in the development of our youth?

Thats just a bunch of bull about not making up this district game. It was totally a coward move just like Clear Creek not making up the PA Memorial game in 2002 to ensure a perfect season, except this is far worse since its a district game. District 24-5A made up their games (so did most all other districts) with Lake and Pearland exposing themselves to the most risk. Bottom line this was a cowardly move and a calculated one. After all the lawyering up, you would think that STRAKE would have done the right thing. Recruit players and you dodge a game, talk about your selective fights.

[htownfootball]

yeah call a school a bunch of cowards that just took in over 50% of their enrollment while gaining national attention at the same time. there is now night school for katrina refugees of new orleans jesuit and a random game during the week would mess that up.
so good job guys way to call a bunch jesuit "cowards". you can go back under your rock or wherever katy is.
o and crying more about whatever strake does to ruin your perfect little football program at katy HS is really the solution to it all.

[KT2000]

The Katrina card has already been played. Unless they are having to sleep on the football field and in the stands, you won't get any sympathy by using the evacuees as a crutch. It had nothing to do with why the game wasn't played.

Anyway, Strake should continue to build their confidence up this week against Hastings.

[hornfan713]

Horn... defend your school. Make yourself feel better. Think of all the excuses you can so you can wake up in the morning and look yourself in the mirror and feel good. It would all be ok if you would just admitt that administators didn't want to play. The bottom line is the kids wanted to but ya'll could gain nothing so you didn't. It's ok, go hug your stake kid and tell him he would have won and he is the best then let him go to bed thinking he would have beat katy if some cowards would have voted yes. Horn horn horn... poor guy i do feel sorry for people like you. Fight till the very end even though you know it was wrong. Oh yeah, sports are very very important to the developement of Kids. Any thing they do in life is a competetion. As for as grades, getting a job and out working their competetion at the job. Unless of course you just shower you kid with money and tell him to sit on the couch the rest of his life. No.. I would have to say sports are very very important to a kid and his development. Oh yeah throw you kid an extra $100 for me.


For the record, I am not a Strake parent. I'm a graduate. For the record, I was on scholarship there, so I don't have an "extra $100" to throw anywhere. I'm defending my school because I don't realistically think that we would dodge a game. Granted, our administration may have voted against it. But we would never dodge a game. I know full well we would have lost to Katy, just like last year. I was on the sidelines as a trainer for that game. I got to see the whole beatdown play-for-play. I was on the sidelines for nearly every game for four years, getting there early and leaving late. I know Strake football. We wouldn't run. Say what you will. We wouldn't run.

[ktrain]

For the record, I am not a Strake parent. I'm a graduate. For the record, I was on scholarship there, so I don't have an "extra $100" to throw anywhere. I'm defending my school because I don't realistically think that we would dodge a game. Granted, our administration may have voted against it. But we would never dodge a game. I know full well we would have lost to Katy, just like last year. I was on the sidelines as a trainer for that game. I got to see the whole beatdown play-for-play. I was on the sidelines for nearly every game for four years, getting there early and leaving late. I know Strake football. We wouldn't run. Say what you will. We wouldn't run.

Maybe the team didn't run but the Coach did.

[Fleeman93]

The team did run. I don't care what anyone says, but trainers, coaches, administration, and players are all part of that team for what it is worth. The team ran, period. I think it is great that Strake was fortunate and able enough to offer the NO kids the ability to continue their education. That pursuit of their education had absolutely nothing to do with the game that would have been played on the field. If anyone has information to the contrary then let’s hear it. As far as I know the administration for Strake has not given an explination for not playing the game therefor it should be assumed that it is for the obvious reason. As far as I am concerned that entire football program as a whole is a bunch of cowards.

[htownfootball]

really? the football program at strake jesuit is a bunch of cowards? were they cowards when they were put in 5A and agreed with it even though when you double the all male population at jesuit it only adds up to be a 4A school? how about when jesuit beat bay city at bay city in front of espn cameras? or when they faced katy as the defending state champs at rhodes stadium on their homecoming night?
the only cowards i see are the katy boosters living through the kids that put on that katy uniform. i see them as cowards for talking smack on an internet message board and not putting on a jersey and saying lets go b****.

[KT2000]

Yall brought it upon yourselves, htown. You were the ones with the fancy lawyers that demanded you be put in the UIL, remember? I know it's pointless even saying that because you obviously don't want the facts to get in the way. Strake playing in 5A doesn't equal courage. It's just the end result of the crap the lawyers flung at the wall.

However, I believe the blame lies with the grown ups involved because they're the ones who put the kids in this situation just so they could better promote their education businesses.

Threatening to abolish the UIL wasn't the smartest move because, although the UIL ultimately had to fold to the demands with imminent legal battle that would ensue if they didn't, they still managed to give you a nice welcoming gift...19-5A.

"Be careful what you wish for."

[Oiler1]

The thread was on Hastings and I think Strake will have their hands full during this game. Hastings is not Baytown Lee and if they hang onto the ball will make a game of this. They have some very good athletes and a defense that has some serious hitters. So maybe Strake will get its just deserve for dodging the Katy game this week.

[SJ WorkHorse]

I go to Strake and i think i know why we voted to not play the game. First of all the coach believes that if we went into that game, there is no doubt, it would be our hardest of the district but the difficulty isnt the case. The issue of injuries is a big issue for our team. We already have about four key players sidelined and one for the season, and this is on a team where at max we have 40 kids on varsity. We dont have the option of not playing our best players on both sides of the ball becuase our bench is not going to be as deep as other schools that are larger. So, I believe thats the main reason, possibility of injury.

[ktCarl]

yeah call a school a bunch of cowards that just took in over 50% of their enrollment while gaining national attention at the same time. there is now night school for katrina refugees of new orleans jesuit and a random game during the week would mess that up.
so good job guys way to call a bunch jesuit "cowards". you can go back under your rock or wherever katy is.
o and crying more about whatever strake does to ruin your perfect little football program at katy HS is really the solution to it all.

Were'nt you the guy that posted on Katy's athletic booster club forum yesterday? You told a humble story how your kids graduated from Katy.
I don't understand your Strake sentiments.

[Standing On Tradition KT]

Man forget the Strake game.................pisses me off that they backed out of playing Katy but o well the easy way out isn't going to get them anywhere.....It'll catch back up to them.........What about Katy's game this week against The Creek.......Just got knews from the highschool.......Katy's JV won 46-24

[tigersdad09]

I go to Strake and i think i know why we voted to not play the game. First of all the coach believes that if we went into that game, there is no doubt, it would be our hardest of the district but the difficulty isnt the case. The issue of injuries is a big issue for our team. We already have about four key players sidelined and one for the season, and this is on a team where at max we have 40 kids on varsity. We dont have the option of not playing our best players on both sides of the ball becuase our bench is not going to be as deep as other schools that are larger. So, I believe thats the main reason, possibility of injury.


So your saying SJ voted not to make up the game because they were afraid of their little boys getting hurt...so tell us if Rita hadnt come along would the SJ admin and coaches waited till the friday night of the game and forfeit to protect their little boys....scheduled game or make up game...doesnt matter...it's still the same .....yall chickened out in the face of a sure LOSS....and used a storm as your reason....

[ktCarl]

Man forget the Strake game.................pisses me off that they backed out of playing Katy but o well the easy way out isn't going to get them anywhere.....It'll catch back up to them.........What about Katy's game this week against The Creek.......Just got knews from the highschool.......Katy's JV won 46-24


Wait-a-minnit, fellers!! We're hijacking a thread here!! I think this is suppsed to be a who will win between Strake and Hastings.

[tigersdad09]

Wait-a-minnit, fellers!! We're hijacking a thread here!! I think this is suppsed to be a who will win between Strake and Hastings.


your right KT....so to answer the question of who will win......I have to ask.....

IS THEIR A LAWYER IN THE HOUSE?

[Standing On Tradition KT]

Wait-a-minnit, fellers!! We're hijacking a thread here!! I think this is suppsed to be a who will win between Strake and Hastings.


haha..........sorry

[eagleike]

Oh yes..............got the Katy faithful all worked up. But only one responder from SJ? That shows you right there they should be out of 5A!!!!

Hastings:

If you have any hair on your rear ends you will nut up and give the privates a good old country butt whipping!!!!

Show some pride in your once proud program and take these ******** down!!

[Tut]

Sad to see a once fine Hastings program being a doormat. I hope they can pickit up against Strake, but don't see it happening. Last week the Bears looked as bad as Katy was good. If this upset occurs, I'll probably crack my ribs from rauchous laughter.

[Tigerjag]

Jesuit didn't run. District cancelled the game.

Jes ABSOLUTELY ran and hid. Your principal voted to not play any of the cancelled games with total approval from your coach. When the chance to skip playing Katy presented itself, the jes grabbed it with both hands. Don't even try to tell me that the players wanted to play the game. A team reflects its coach.

[Tigerjag]

heck, coach counter had a heart attack and he STILL wanted to play katy.

You are totally wrong about counter. He did not want to play Katy and is very happy that he and the principal were given an opportunity to weasel out of it.

[htownfootball]

no i am not on the katy booster board. check the IP addresses.

[ktCarl]

no i am not on the katy booster board. check the IP addresses.

Sorry. The poster was txhsfootballfan.

[DipnSpit]

Score?

[ktfiend]

The game is on Saturday.

[DipnSpit]

shoulda read the whole thread

[htownfootball]

Strake Jesuit 14
hastings 13

Highlights
Strake Jesuit scored the game-winning four points in the final quarter on a blocked PAT and run back by Jonathan Moore and a Hastings snap that sailed over the punter's head for a safety.

Notables
Hastings' Anthony Okonma rushed for 85 yards and two touchdowns in the second half.

Scoring Summary

STJ-Moses Ogbonnaya 14 pass from Tim Bandy (Jonathan Madsen kick) 3:51, 1st
STJ-Jonathan Madsen 31 FG 1:16, 2nd
HAS-Anthony Okonma 15 run (Emolio Frias kick) :56, 3rd
HAS-Anthony Okonma 31 run (kick failed) 6:22, 4th
STJ-Safety 6:22, 4th
STJ-Safety 1:05, 4th



strake (5-0) takes on mayde creek next friday in their home district opener on their own homecoming night.

[ktCarl]

Strake wins 14 - 13. Strake did not play well but Hastings coughed up the loss. Two special teams gaffes and Strake walks with the victory. Hastings defense did play a good game, though.
I heard the Strake coach enjoys having conversations with the refs.

[ktfiend]

Yes, he does. Funny because he only needed to discuss things after his team had a big play or a long run. I guess he thought they needed a breather for a minute (or two in some cases).

BTW, where were you last night? I thought you were coming to the game also...

[ktCarl]

I got there late, didn't get in and loitered at the fence next to the No Loitering sign. I did see the punting snafu by Hastings. What a way to lose. Of course if Katy won a game that way I would take it.

[Tut]

Strake Jesuit 14
hastings 13

strake (5-0) takes on mayde creek next friday in their home district opener on their own homecoming night.

I'd say that Strake slaughters Mayde Creek, but that's what I said about Hastings.

[Chris_Burke_owns_Atlanta]

Fact is that none of you guys know Richard Nevle and I do. You are truly a moron if you think that Mr. Nevle would cancel a football game for reasons other than safety. High School football does not run my life nor does it run the lives of students at SJ unlike some of you Katy residents and I think it's truly sad that you have nothing better to do than whine about my school. The only thing I care about regarding HS football is who UT gets. I am very interested in seeing what Sergio Kindle does during his college career.

[htownfootball]

yeah unlike katy hs, strake jesuits athletes go d1 every year. maybe the colleges know where to get athletes that will actually goto class, which shows that strake isnt all about football.
steve hogan-TE at Texas from strake jesuit was big 12 all academic team
chris ogbonnaya-FB at Texas also has good grades.
you wont hear about those players skipping class like adrian peterson at OU.

[Tigerjag]

I'd say that Strake slaughters Mayde Creek, but that's what I said about Hastings.

jes is not for real. They'll have all they can handle with Mayde Creek. They only managed one touchdown against Hastings, and that was aided by a Hastings fumble. If Mayde Creek brings a defense, it will be close.

[KatyHighCO04]

yeah unlike katy hs, strake jesuits athletes go d1 every year. maybe the colleges know where to get athletes that will actually goto class, which shows that strake isnt all about football.
steve hogan-TE at Texas from strake jesuit was big 12 all academic team
chris ogbonnaya-FB at Texas also has good grades.
you wont hear about those players skipping class like adrian peterson at OU.


You also won't hear about them making any plays like adrian peterson at OU.

[htownfootball]

Are you implying that good students that also play sports in college aren't making "big plays"?
what about 2 strake jesuit baseball players at Rice, leading them to a national championship?
How about Jake Voskhul at Connecticut, on the basketball team, leading them to a national championship and also the center for the Phoenix Suns and their high potent offense?

[Tut]

yeah unlike katy hs, strake jesuits athletes go d1 every year. maybe the colleges know where to get athletes that will actually goto class, which shows that strake isnt all about football.

This has to be one of the most ignorant posts ever! Katy's student/athletes do just fine in the classroom. Teamwork, coaching, and intelligent play wins games.
P.S. - The Tigers also have more than two D1 players.

[OfficerCartman]

Cowards

[KT2000]

Freakin' hurricane. I was all geared up to end the pointless trash talk, and then Mother Nature intervenes. She needs a football schedule. However, I'm not completely sure that actually playing the game would help ease tensions.

All of the Katy-Strake trash talk is pointless. Neither side is going to convince the other of anything regarding their school. A complete waste of time for everyone involved.