District 25-5A taking over SA poll!

[mad_fan]

E-N Area 5A Football Rankings
Web Posted: 10/04/2005 12:00 AM CDT

San Antonio Express-News

1. Clemens Buffaloes
Record: 6-0, 2-0 25-5A; Previous Rank: 1
Last Week: Beat Jefferson 55-0
The Breakdown: The Buffaloes record their second shutout, holding Jefferson to 33 yards total offense.
Next: at Southwest, 7:30 p.m. Oct. 14

2. Smithson Valley Rangers
Record: 4-1, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: 3
Last Week: Beat Judson 21-7
The Breakdown: Second-half defensive effort spurs Rangers against Judson, which was held to 198 yards total offense.
Next: vs. MacArthur, 7:30 p.m. Friday

3. San Marcos Rattlers :confused:
Record: 5-1, 2-0 25-5A; Previous Rank: 7
Last Week: Beat Seguin 21-0
The Breakdown: Same story for the Rattlers: Grind it out until someone stops you. So far, the plan works.
Next: vs. Highlands, 7:30 p.m. Saturday, at Alamo

4. Judson Rockets :eek:
Record: 3-2, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: 2
Last Week: Lost to Smithson Valley 21-7
The Breakdown: Despite loss, Rockets still looked solid defensively, yielding only 153 yards and nine first downs to Smithson Valley.
Next: vs. Roosevelt, 7 p.m. Saturday, Comalander

5. Madison Mavericks :D
Record: 4-1, 2-0 26-5A; Previous Rank: 6
Last Week: Beat Reagan 21-9
The Breakdown: Four-straight victories have the Mavericks poised for a chance at the playoffs from rugged 26-5A.
Next: vs. Churchill, 7:30 p.m. Friday, Comalander

6. Clark Cougars :)
Record: 4-1, 2-0 27-5A; Previous Rank: NR
Last Week: Beat Jay 21-20 (OT)
The Breakdown: The Cougars have won their past two games on the final play, including last week against previously unbeaten Jay.
Next: vs. Holmes, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Farris

7. Jay Mustangs
Record: 3-1, 1-1 27-5A; Previous Rank: 5
Last Week: Lost to Clark 21-20 (OT)
The Breakdown: The Mustangs allowed only 79 yards rushing to Clark but couldn't hold off the Cougars' late charge.
Next: vs. Warren, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Gustafson

8. Warren Warriors
Record: 3-2, 1-1 27-5A; Previous Rank: 4
Last Week: Lost to Taft 34-33
The Breakdown: Taft exposed the Warriors' previously dominant defense, which yielded 251 yards passing.
Next: vs. Jay, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Gustafson

9. MacArthur Brahmas
Record: 4-1, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: NR
Last Week: Beat Lee 34-7
The Breakdown: The Brahmas bounce back from loss to Reagan with 369 yards total offense against Lee.
Next: at Smithson Valley, 7:30 p.m. Friday

10. Seguin Matadors :confused:
Record: 4-2, 1-1 25-5A; Previous Rank: 8
Last Week: Lost to San Marcos 21-0
The Breakdown: The Matadors managed only 139 yards total offense, including 23 on the ground, against San Marcos.
Next: vs. East Central, 7:30 p.m. Friday

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/football/stories/MYSA100405.0D.5Arankings.d3d372c.html


Where's Churchill? Their in and out of this thing every other week...

[bubbacoach]

And your point is? This is just another poll that is the opinion of a person or group of persons that has little knowledge of what is going on in these teams field house. The only poll that matters is the final poll. The final poll is decided by the teams overall records and to be number one in the final poll is what it is all about. City, State, Region, etc... the only poll that matters is the final polls.

[rattlerbacker]

Its not a lot different from the Regional Top 10 on this site. The only difference in the top 5 is Judson and San Marcos are swapped. The bottom 5 are ordered differently and this site has Reagan at #9 and no Seguin.

5A Texas Football Region 4 Standings & Rankings (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/05region4standings.htm)

Bubbacoach is right, though, the only one that matters is at the end of the season.

[clemensbuff]

And your point is? This is just another poll that is the opinion of a person or group of persons that has little knowledge of what is going on in these teams field house. The only poll that matters is the final poll. The final poll is decided by the teams overall records and to be number one in the final poll is what it is all about. City, State, Region, etc... the only poll that matters is the final polls.

I agree 100%! Who is still standing in week 5 of the playoffs will be the best team in the city and region this year!

[bubbacoach]

The teams are the ultimate answer to the question of who is the best. And they will answer that through there play each and every week.

[mad_fan]

And I don't disagree with any of the above. I found it interesting where SM and Seguin ended up. It is somebody's opinion, but I thought others might have an opinion too. I have read here more than several time about the 25 or this or that team in the 25 not getting any respect. I thought that since there seldom threads related to the 25 this would create some discussion rather than it ending up in a 26 thread.

So allow me to change the topic and still have some dicussion in the 25:

Who do you like in the SM/Highlands matchup? That should get us going...

[lonny23]

I agree 100%! Who is still standing in week 5 of the playoffs will be the best team in the city and region this year!
I'm still holding out for 2 teams playing in Week 15 and one in Week 16.

[clemensbuff]

I'm still holding out for 2 teams playing in Week 15 and one in Week 16.

I hope you're right and that both division state finals will have a team from region 4!

[bubbacoach]

And I don't disagree with any of the above. I found it interesting where SM and Seguin ended up. It is somebody's opinion, but I thought others might have an opinion too. I have read here more than several time about the 25 or this or that team in the 25 not getting any respect. I thought that since there seldom threads related to the 25 this would create some discussion rather than it ending up in a 26 thread.

So allow me to change the topic and still have some dicussion in the 25:

Who do you like in the SM/Highlands matchup? That should get us going...
Are you serious? San Marcos's starters will be cheerleaders by halftime. The only way Highlands has a chance is San Marcos is hit by the bubonic plague.

[SeguinMatadors]

Are you serious? San Marcos's starters will be cheerleaders by halftime. The only way Highlands has a chance is San Marcos is hit by the bubonic plague.

I will second that opinion. LOL

[clemensbuff]

Are you serious? San Marcos's starters will be cheerleaders by halftime. The only way Highlands has a chance is San Marcos is hit by the bubonic plague.

They might be on the bench before the half! Clemens starters were and then they let them have the opening possesion of the second half! This is where the advantage definately goes to 26-5a. Your starters will be used to going 48 minutes before the playoffs start. There is absolutely no conditioning better than actual game conditioning!!!

[lonny23]

Are you serious? San Marcos's starters will be cheerleaders by halftime. The only way Highlands has a chance is San Marcos is hit by the bubonic plague.
I know this a major hijacker, but the story is good. :D

The bubonic plague is how we got the song "Ring Around the Rosy."

"Ring around the rosy, pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down!"

Infected people had black rings around red spots when infected. They put posies in people's pockets when they died to cut down on the stench. Because of the mass amounts of deaths, they burnt the dead and they turned into ashes. Naturally, the dead all fell down!

[mad_fan]

Are you serious? San Marcos's starters will be cheerleaders by halftime. The only way Highlands has a chance is San Marcos is hit by the bubonic plague.


NO, which is way I didnt make it the topic of conversation in the first place.

[mad_fan]

I know this a major hijacker, but the story is good. :D

The bubonic plague is how we got the song "Ring Around the Rosy."

"Ring around the rosy, pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down!"

Infected people had black rings around red spots when infected. They put posies in people's pockets when they died to cut down on the stench. Because of the mass amounts of deaths, they burnt the dead and they turned into ashes. Naturally, the dead all fell down!

I dont think this is a hijack at all when you look at the bottom of the 25. jmo.

[DiamondJ2]

We do pick on 25-5A, but the top 3 teams are doing well. Remember, most of the state picks on Region IV and it has done well at the semifinal & state final. One good point made was the resting of starters whereas in 26-5A they usually have to play the whole game which means improvement throughout the season. On the other hand, playing half or 3/4 of a game allows those players to be fresher when playoffs come around. Clemens should be ranked #1 right now, and kudos to the 5 teams outside SA in the top ten.

[clemensbuff]

We do pick on 25-5A, but the top 3 teams are doing well. Remember, most of the state picks on Region IV and it has done well at the semifinal & state final. One good point made was the resting of starters whereas in 26-5A they usually have to play the whole game which means improvement throughout the season. On the other hand, playing half or 3/4 of a game allows those players to be fresher when playoffs come around. Clemens should be ranked #1 right now, and kudos to the 5 teams outside SA in the top ten.

I guess you have a good point about players being fresher. But I can't ever remember feeling too tired or too sore once the whistle blew and the game started, especially in the playoffs. Trust me, that level of competition week end and week out in 26-5a gets you ready for the post-season!!! There is not a doubt in my mind whatsoever that this tough competition gave Judson an edge and helped them build a bigger trophy case!

[Go Buffs]

kudos to the 5 teams outside SA in the top ten.
I hadn't even noticed that...plus the top 4 are all non-SA! :eek:

So when do we start the debate/slugfest on SA vs. non-SA? :D

It's not even close, is it? Who are the perennial good SA teams? Madison, Roosevelt, O'Connor(recent success), Alamo Heights(4A)? That's about it, isn't it?

[mad_fan]

If Madison had Clemens schedule you'd be calling them Judson. :p

[stressybessy]

Here is something to chew on for awhile. These 5A state rankings are from Jerry's HS football ratings.

25-5A
Clemens #13
San Marcos #59
Seguin #81
Highlands #192
East Central #207
Southwest #231
Jefferson #239 (at least they are not 244)

26-5A
Judson #7
Smithson Valley #12
Madison #27
Churchill #28
Roosevelt #52
MacArthur #66
Reagan #127
Lee #195


I personally don't agree with the EN rankings. They have no idea what they are talking about.

[rattlerbacker]

The rankings by the guys on this site are not dissimilar to the EN though and they DO know what they're talking about. Jerry's ratings are not infallible by any means.

Also, Jerry's ratings have not been updated since before last week's games so those ratings are a week behind.

[mad_fan]

The rankings by the guys on this site are not dissimilar to the EN though and they DO know what they're talking about. Jerry's ratings are not infallible by any means.

come on rattler dont fall back on the kt's with the big DO.
are jerry's rankings more or less infallible than the expense-news?

[stressybessy]

I don't agree with anyones rankings for the SA area teams. Whether it is Jerry or EN or this web site. But ranking the teams is a great conversation piece.

I only meant to point out how weak our district is Rattler. I miss playing teams like Judson, Roosevelt and Madison, getting extremely nervous before the game, biting my nails, using oxygen to stay alive. But now, aside from San Marcos and Seguin our games are so one sided. The Buffs look good though, I went and saw the Seguin/San Marcos game Friday, boy it was packed. I look forward to the games in the future.

[rattlerbacker]

Well mad_fan, since the ratings Bessy posted are a week behind, as I edited my earlier post to add, I don't really have a clue. Lets see how Jerry's ratings with ALL the games included look.

[mad_fan]

given that ALL the games are not in for THIS week, go back a week, or two or a month...I'm just asking are jerry's rankings more or less infallible than the expense-news? just asking your opinion. :D

[sendero]

I guess you have a good point about players being fresher. But I can't ever remember feeling too tired or too sore once the whistle blew and the game started, especially in the playoffs. Trust me, that level of competition week end and week out in 26-5a gets you ready for the post-season!!! There is not a doubt in my mind whatsoever that this tough competition gave Judson an edge and helped them build a bigger trophy case!


I tend to agree with everyone's comment about getting the 26-5 teams ready for the playoffs. If you look at it right now SV & Judson are now facing every game like it is an elimination game, just like everyone else in the district which will make them get everyone's best effort.

StressyBessy I am getting the nervous feeling every week :eek: knowing it is going to be a dogfight from every team. But man it is exciting getting to the game an hour & a half early just make sure you get a good seat & watching the opponents going through their drills to size up the competition.

[Reaganrattler07]

Wow....Mac beats Lee and gets in the Top 10.... :confused: .....something's wrong with that picture.

[rattlerbacker]

mad_fan, I don't know enough about who does the EN polls or Jerry's system to give an answer. I just started looking at Jerry's site this year and I don' t even know what his formula is so I really don't have a feel for his accuracy level yet. I will say that I would trust a knowledgeable observer actually watching games over a power rating system just about every time. I suppose I will get all kinds of comments about how the EN guys aren't knowledgeable, but they have at least seen the teams live, and I assume between all of them they've seen all the teams at this point.

Since the EN and this site have 9 of the same teams in their top 10 rankings, and the same top 5 teams, I don't believe their rankings are out of line. As pointed out earlier, we'll find out in weeks 11-16 just how accurate all of the ratings are.

[Reaganrattler07]

mad_fan, I don't know enough about who does the EN polls or Jerry's system to give an answer. I just started looking at Jerry's site this year and I don' t even know what his formula is so I really don't have a feel for his accuracy level yet. I will say that I would trust a knowledgeable observer actually watching games over a power rating system just about every time. I suppose I will get all kinds of comments about how the EN guys aren't knowledgeable, but they have at least seen the teams live, and I assume between all of them they've seen all the teams at this point.

Since the EN and this site have 9 of the same teams in their top 10 rankings, and the same top 5 teams, I don't believe their rankings are out of line. As pointed out earlier, we'll find out in weeks 11-16 just how accurate all of the ratings are.

E-n rankings seem to be wrong most of the time though.

[TRsnare07]

E-N Area 5A Football Rankings
Web Posted: 10/04/2005 12:00 AM CDT

San Antonio Express-News

1. Clemens Buffaloes
Record: 6-0, 2-0 25-5A; Previous Rank: 1
Last Week: Beat Jefferson 55-0
The Breakdown: The Buffaloes record their second shutout, holding Jefferson to 33 yards total offense.
Next: at Southwest, 7:30 p.m. Oct. 14

[B]2. Smithson Valley Rangers
Record: 4-1, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: 3
Last Week: Beat Judson 21-7
The Breakdown: Second-half defensive effort spurs Rangers against Judson, which was held to 198 yards total offense.
Next: vs. MacArthur, 7:30 p.m. Friday

[B]3. San Marcos Rattlers :confused:
Record: 5-1, 2-0 25-5A; Previous Rank: 7
Last Week: Beat Seguin 21-0
The Breakdown: Same story for the Rattlers: Grind it out until someone stops you. So far, the plan works.
Next: vs. Highlands, 7:30 p.m. Saturday, at Alamo

4. Judson Rockets
Record: 3-2, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: 2
Last Week: Lost to Smithson Valley 21-7
The Breakdown: Despite loss, Rockets still looked solid defensively, yielding only 153 yards and nine first downs to Smithson Valley.
Next: vs. Roosevelt, 7 p.m. Saturday, Comalander

5. Madison Mavericks :D
Record: 4-1, 2-0 26-5A; Previous Rank: 6
Last Week: Beat Reagan 21-9
The Breakdown: Four-straight victories have the Mavericks poised for a chance at the playoffs from rugged 26-5A.
Next: vs. Churchill, 7:30 p.m. Friday, Comalander

6. Clark Cougars[/B
Record: 4-1, 2-0 27-5A; Previous Rank: NR
Last Week: Beat Jay 21-20 (OT)
The Breakdown: The Cougars have won their past two games on the final play, including last week against previously unbeaten Jay.
Next: vs. Holmes, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Farris

[B]7. Jay Mustangs
Record: 3-1, 1-1 27-5A; Previous Rank: 5
Last Week: Lost to Clark 21-20 (OT)
The Breakdown: The Mustangs allowed only 79 yards rushing to Clark but couldn't hold off the Cougars' late charge.
Next: vs. Warren, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Gustafson

8. Warren Warriors
Record: 3-2, 1-1 27-5A; Previous Rank: 4
Last Week: Lost to Taft 34-33
The Breakdown: Taft exposed the Warriors' previously dominant defense, which yielded 251 yards passing.
Next: vs. Jay, 7:30 p.m. Friday, at Gustafson

9. MacArthur Brahmas
Record: 4-1, 1-1 26-5A; Previous Rank: NR
Last Week: Beat Lee 34-7
The Breakdown: The Brahmas bounce back from loss to Reagan with 369 yards total offense against Lee.
Next: at Smithson Valley, 7:30 p.m. Friday

10. Seguin Matadors :confused:
Record: 4-2, 1-1 25-5A; Previous Rank: 8
Last Week: Lost to San Marcos 21-0
The Breakdown: The Matadors managed only 139 yards total offense, including 23 on the ground, against San Marcos.
Next: vs. East Central, 7:30 p.m. Friday

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/football/stories/MYSA100405.0D.5Arankings.d3d372c.html


Where's Churchill? Their in and out of this thing every other week...


but you see thats my san antonio and they are really reallly bias they hate roosevelt and they hate anyhting that has to do with south side hahah so thats not the best place to get all your info

[Reaganrattler07]

but you see thats my san antonio and they are really reallly bias they hate roosevelt and they hate anyhting that has to do with south side hahah so thats not the best place to get all your info

Uh...you sure you know what part of town your on? ....your on East-Northeast.

Like I said, rankings are almost always wrong.

[TRsnare07]

hahahah you know frikin ksat 12 hates roosevelt you have seen the sports section in the express news and yeah i have a FEW friends on the south side lol and they hate them too and yeah northeast isd hollllaaaaa im as northeast as you can get baby windcrest texas HOLLLLLAAAAAAa :D :D :D

[Reaganrattler07]

hahahah you know frikin ksat 12 hates roosevelt you have seen the sports section in the express news and yeah i have a FEW friends on the south side lol and they hate them too and yeah northeast isd hollllaaaaa im as northeast as you can get baby windcrest texas HOLLLLLAAAAAAa :D :D :D

News people don't cover us that much....like to cover SAISD a lot....and if Mac wins a game against a terrible opponent, they get ranked and have half a page dedicated to them.....almost like watching John Madden talk about Brett Favre last night....

[Reaganrattler07]

Also, in basketball, were weren't ranked in the Top 5 for the entire season...and we went all the way to state. That's why I put little faith in rankings.

[TRsnare07]

EXACTLY you watched that game to i was going to jump in there and kill him arg hes frikin bias as a ksat 12

[Reaganrattler07]

EXACTLY you watched that game to i was going to jump in there and kill him arg hes frikin bias as a ksat 12

Yeah....all Ksat 12 reports is Spurs, Cowboys and the sips....I don't mind the spurs but all you hear about are the Cowboys and the sips...not even the Texans...

[TRsnare07]

yeah well we just need a none bias news team that would be :cool: wonderful w00t

[Reaganrattler07]

yeah well we just need a none bias news team that would be :cool: wonderful w00t

Yeah....I've started watchin' WOAI....they have some good high school coverage.

[clemensbuff]

Yeah....all Ksat 12 reports is Spurs, Cowboys and the sips....I don't mind the spurs but all you hear about are the Cowboys and the sips...not even the Texans...

Why in the hell would they even want to mention the Texans? As for the sips, if your Ags or Raiders were ranked #2 in the nation, they would probably get quite of bit of air time! LOL

[Reaganrattler07]

Why in the hell would they even want to mention the Texans? As for the sips, if your Ags or Raiders were ranked #2 in the nation, they would probably get quite of bit of air time! LOL

Considering I'm paying for news, not University of Texas television, I expect it to be all equal.

And my Hokies are 3 in the nation by the way....

[mad_fan]

Wow....Mac beats Lee and gets in the Top 10.... :confused: .....something's wrong with that picture.

they will really move up this week! :p

[rattlerbacker]

Here are the top 11 from Region 4 from Jerry's updated rankings. The first number is the state ranking, after the school's record is the current power rating, preseason rating, and positive or negative change since preseason. Are these really better than the EN? IMO, who knows. Personally, I disagree with several of his ratings but not enough to go set up my own system. :D

If his ratings are like other power ratings systems, there really isn't much difference between Madison at #5 and San Marcos at #11.........2.55 points......and less than 1 1/2 points between #7 and #11. According to his current ratings, Madison and Roosevelt will be fighting it out for 3rd in the 265, it will be interesting to see if things play out that way.


CL/Dist Team (2005 Record) Rating
Rating
( + or - )

#8 5A - 26 Smithson Valley (4-1) 193.93 205.46 -11.53

#11 5A - 26 Converse Judson (3-2) 187.91 196.89 -8.98

#12 5A - 25 Schertz Clemens (6-0) 186.49 176.12 10.37

#23 5A - 28 Corpus Christi Carroll (4-0) 179.68 170.58 9.10

#31 5A - 26 San Antonio Madison (4-1) 177.73 176.13 1.60

#32 5A - 32 Los Fresnos (5-0) 177.39 169.20 8.19

#37 5A - 26 San Antonio Roosevelt (3-2) 176.45 162.78 13.67

#40 5A - 27 San Antonio John Jay (3-2) 176.18 162.72 13.46

#43 5A - 26 San Antonio Churchill (2-3) 175.85 168.36 7.49

#44 5A - 27 San Antonio O'Connor (3-2) 175.37 176.99 -1.62

#45 5A - 25 San Marcos (5-1) 175.18 172.06 3.12

[mad_fan]

and massey is update to this (5A state rank followed by change from previous week)...

11 - 6 Smithson Val
19 + 8 Clemens
21 -13 Judson
26 +13 SA Madison
38 -15 MacArthur-SA
43 +10 Clark
48 +24 San Marcos
59 +10 Roosevelt-SA
63 + 2 Churchill
64 +16 Jay

[mad_fan]

So back to the Expense-News thing...

Unlike the computer generated rankings we sight above, there is human subjectivity involved. It is one mans (?) opinion of whose better. I find it entirely incomprehensible that someone would rank SM ahead of Judson. The facts and numbers dont justify it. IMO. I would not have Madison as high as they are either. Mac doesnt belong in there until they win this weks game. :p Churchill lost a close one to a tough RRider team and should still be there in the 10 spot.

[bubbacoach]

So back to the Expense-News thing...

Unlike the computer generated rankings we sight above, there is human subjectivity involved. It is one mans (?) opinion of whose better. I find it entirely incomprehensible that someone would rank SM ahead of Judson. The facts and numbers dont justify it. IMO. I would not have Madison as high as they are either. Mac doesnt belong in there until they win this weks game. :p Churchill lost a close one to a tough RRider team and should still be there in the 10 spot.
Read this mornings paper, Fannuzzi is through for the year. And as Fannuzzi goes, so goes the Chargers. They are through for the year.

[clemensbuff]

Read this mornings paper, Fannuzzi is through for the year. And as Fannuzzi goes, so goes the Chargers. They are through for the year.

That is a real shame. This kid has had two season ending injuries already. I feel sorry for his team, but much more so for him. I hope that he comes back strong for his senior year and can stay healthy!

[Reaganrattler07]

So back to the Expense-News thing...

Unlike the computer generated rankings we sight above, there is human subjectivity involved. It is one mans (?) opinion of whose better. I find it entirely incomprehensible that someone would rank SM ahead of Judson. The facts and numbers dont justify it. IMO. I would not have Madison as high as they are either. Mac doesnt belong in there until they win this weks game. :p Churchill lost a close one to a tough RRider team and should still be there in the 10 spot.

Haha, Mac beat Lee, doesn't that give them a top 10 ranking! :rolleyes:

[rattlerbacker]

Unlike the computer generated rankings we sight above, there is human subjectivity involved. It is one mans (?) opinion of whose better.

Power ratings are filled with subjectivity, you just don't see it on the surface because its built into the equations they use. What factors are used, and the weighting for each factor, is just one man's opinion of how to structure the equation. That's why there can be huge differences in power ratings. Another subjective factor is where to rank teams at the start of the season. As you can see from Jerry's ratings, there has already been a lot of movement by some teams.

It is one mans (?) opinion of whose better. I find it entirely incomprehensible that someone would rank SM ahead of Judson. The facts and numbers dont justify it.

I can't say one way or another because I haven't seen Judson play but given the acknowledged problems they are having I don't find it incomprehensible. "Facts" and "numbers" aren't the only factors involved in any competition, either, or in evaluating teams.

[mad_fan]

That is a real shame. This kid has had two season ending injuries already. I feel sorry for his team, but much more so for him. I hope that he comes back strong for his senior year and can stay healthy!

Yes that is a shame. Churchill doesnt belong up there then. Maybe the E-N guy can tell the future. :rolleyes:

[mad_fan]

Power ratings are filled with subjectivity, you just don't see it on the surface because its built into the equations they use. What factors are used, and the weighting for each factor, is just one man's opinion of how to structure the equation. That's why there can be huge differences in power ratings. Another subjective factor is where to rank teams at the start of the season. As you can see from Jerry's ratings, there has already been a lot of movement by some teams.

I think we mostly agree. Start with the raw data. Plug it into formulas (developed by people) and presto, rankings come out. At least there is some explainable methodology. One guy takes into consideration now the school has done the past two years another guy uses ten years. All of the variables came be adjusted. The E-N poll is more like one guy's opinion. I think you should start your own ratings service. I could help you. :D