How bad is District 7-5A?

[bleedblue]

Non district stats:

5-12 vs. 5A opponents
1-10 vs. 5A Region 1 opponents
Combined record of 5 defeated 5A opponents: 4-11
4 teams without a 5A win in non-conference
Bell's lone 5A win against perennial bottom feeder Newman Smith
No eye-opening non-district wins. Best one would probably be Trinity over Tyler Lee.

What a difference two years makes. This district has completely fallen off a cliff since its 2005 glory. Could 8-5A sweep this district in Bi-District this year?

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Non district stats:

5-12 vs. 5A opponents
1-10 vs. 5A Region 1 opponents
Combined record of 5 defeated 5A opponents: 4-11
4 teams without a 5A win in non-conference
Bell's lone 5A win against perennial bottom feeder Newman Smith
No eye-opening non-district wins. Best one would probably be Trinity over Tyler Lee.

What a difference two years makes. This district has completely fallen off a cliff since its 2005 glory. Could 8-5A sweep this district in Bi-District this year?

It is possible, but this is WAY to early to discuss playoffs. We have not even begun to play district games yet. This district has a lot of young teams that will get better as the year progresses. Right now, we are a weak district, other than Trinity. Trinity is still a strong team, despite getting blown out by OP. OP is a really good team this year, and is a state contender for sure so losing to them is not a huge disappointment for the Trojans. Let's not jump the gun yet though on this district. We will see what district play has to offer first.

[bleedblue]

It is possible, but this is WAY to early to discuss playoffs. We have not even begun to play district games yet. This district has a lot of young teams that will get better as the year progresses. Right now, we are a weak district, other than Trinity. Trinity is still a strong team, despite getting blown out by OP. OP is a really good team this year, and is a state contender for sure so losing to them is not a huge disappointment for the Trojans. Let's not jump the gun yet though on this district. We will see what district play has to offer first.

You're right, but its been a rough past two seasons for this district. I don't know what to blame it on, whether it be inexperience or just not having good teams...

[GRP05]

It is possible, but this is WAY to early to discuss playoffs. We have not even begun to play district games yet. This district has a lot of young teams that will get better as the year progresses. Right now, we are a weak district, other than Trinity. Trinity is still a strong team, despite getting blown out by OP. OP is a really good team this year, and is a state contender for sure so losing to them is not a huge disappointment for the Trojans. Let's not jump the gun yet though on this district. We will see what district play has to offer first.

You're absolutely right...at this point, the UIL might make an exception and not let any teams from 7-5a in the playoffs:p

[Vols4Ever]

I am not ready to mail the bag in on Trinity yet, and not on Irving Macarthur who looks to be decent.

SGP, Bell, GP, Nimitz, Jesuit, and Irving --- well, I can't say I am a believer. But in my heart, I am for SGP in this district.

Head to head against 8-5A it might be ugly -- but Trinity could draw Martin or Lamar.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I am not ready to mail the bag in on Trinity yet, and not on Irving Macarthur who looks to be decent.

SGP, Bell, GP, Nimitz, Jesuit, and Irving --- well, I can't say I am a believer. But in my heart, I am for SGP in this district.

Head to head against 8-5A it might be ugly -- but Trinity could draw Martin or Lamar.

And SGP may draw Arl. Bowie again...:puke

Don't know if I want to see a rematch of that game just yet lol. Actually, it would probably be a good game, because there is still 7 more games to be played which should provide plenty of experience for our young offense. Once they get into their zone, they will be ok. Our defense can hold their own already, and is still improving. They held South Garland and their high powered passing game under 25 points. I am not sure anyone will score more than 25 on them this year to be honest...not even Trinity. I am not saying we will beat Trinity next week, but I do not think Trinity will score more than 25. If they do, it wont be much more...

[RangerFan]

Trinity will be there at the end of the season, and not too many teams will want to play them in the playoffs.

SGP may be dowb, but they still have lots of speed and talent, and their defense is still solid. If their offense gets untracked, they will be a sleeper.

LD Bell is well-coached and can score points. They may struggle against a Cedar Hill and/or a Desoto, but so would most teams.

Jesuit beat up Berkner 38 to 7. Berkner lost to Duncanville by one in OT when they decided to go for two points. Jesuit lost by 14 to Coppell in a game where they "fumbled" the ball and saw it returned for a TD and in a game where a WR caught a deep ball and fell down with no one around. Coppell is good, but so is Jesuit. They will have to face either Cedar Hill or Desoto in Round One because of their small enrollment, but that doesn't mean they are weak. Just about everyone got creamed by Cedar Hill in the playoffs last season, including their state final opponent.

MacArthur is very talented and, if they are the fifth best, they make this a solid district. Those five schools can all play. Is there a State Champion in the group? Probably not, but only two districts will be able to say that when it is all said and done. I think this district is better from top to bottom, but there may not be a dominant team at the top. Even so, they may prove inaccurate.

I'll go with Trinity, Mac, SGP, and Jesuit in the playoffs. And, I won't be surprised if Bell proves me wrong.

[JCP1984]

I saw the HC at Jesuit at mass yesterday, and he said he saw Mac in person this past weekend. He says they are better than last year, and just as talented. He thinks the district will be tougher this year, and he thinks the depth of the district is much deeper. He likes his team's chances of making the playoffs, especially if they can stay healthy. I saw them beat up Berkner two Fridays ago, and it was impressive. Berkner misses their QB from the last three years, but Jesuit's DL dominated. I don't think Jesuit is equal to the top 5 to 10 schools in the area, but I am surprised they are not ranked in the top 20 in the area. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next two weeks in 7-5A, and I can't wait. First up for Jesuit is Nimitz, and the HC says they are dangerous. he thought their coaching staff did a great job last season, and he thinks they are close this year. Hopefully the Rangers will take care of business and be ready for the next two tough games: Mac and the Haka.

[trojanbacker]

Wait a minute, wait a minute....I'm going to tap the brakes just a bit on this line of thinking. "The last two years have been rough for this district?" Two years ago Trinity won state. Last year they lost in a final minute to eventual state champion SLC. Hardly a disgrace.

[hollywood]

Wait a minute, wait a minute....I'm going to tap the brakes just a bit on this line of thinking. "The last two years have been rough for this district?" Two years ago Trinity won state. Last year they lost in a final minute to eventual state champion SLC. Hardly a disgrace.I think he is saying that the strength was around one, two or maybe three teams the past two years. 2005 we had three teams at 9-1. That is pretty great. I beleive what some folks are saying is that the power is spread out more across the teams this year. It is all in how you look at it. I think ET will do fine. I don't see the other teams making much noise in the playoffs unless there is significant improvement thru the rest of the year. Having said all these I sure hope 7-5A does this improvement.

[trojanbacker]

Looks to be a fairly balanced group this year. Trinity is improving, IMac is much better and I think Jesuit will surprise people. Bell....who knows. They always play a couple of weak teams early and get my hopes up only to get clobbered the first time they play a good team. I like SGP's chances despite the 0 -3 because they always have good athletes and good coaching. I think it's going to be a fun bunch to watch this year and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see everyone have at least one loss.

[trainin' the game]

teams in this district should pray they go d1; because cedar hill and desoto will sweep d2 no problem like last year; trust;).

[TrinityTrojan80]

teams in this district should pray they go d1; because cedar hill and desoto will sweep d2 no problem like last year; trust;).
Bring it!

[TrojanHorse03]

ANYTIME, Cedar Hill wants some of Trinity they BETTER BRING IT, DON'T SING IT. Obviously you were NOT told that Trinity is one of the few teams that prays, prays TO play the best programs. So now, no disrespect intended, Trinity is supposed to be afraid of Cedar Hill???? Bull ****!

[SGP 06 Alumni]

ANYTIME, Cedar Hill wants some of Trinity they BETTER BRING IT, DON'T SING IT. Obviously you were NOT told that Trinity is one of the few teams that prays, prays TO play the best programs. So now, no disrespect intended, Trinity is supposed to be afraid of Cedar Hill???? Bull ****!

lol wow...Get'em Trinity!!!:D

[RangerFan]

I'm betting this district goes into Week 9 and 10 with several teams still competing for a playoiff spot, and I bet the four winners will have three district losses or less and some tie breaker rules come into play. This first week has some great match-ups, beginning with Trinity-SGP. The winner of that takes over the "driver of the bus" role until someone knocks them off. I thin k Jesuit will beat Nimitz, Bell will beat GP, and Mac will beat Irving. Next week, the big game just might be Mac vs Jesuit. I don't know the other match-ups next week. I saw the Rangers practice today, and they look healthy and ready. I hope they play Nimitz as well as they played Berkner.

[stinger]

ANYTIME, Cedar Hill wants some of Trinity they BETTER BRING IT, DON'T SING IT. Obviously you were NOT told that Trinity is one of the few teams that prays, prays TO play the best programs. So now, no disrespect intended, Trinity is supposed to be afraid of Cedar Hill???? Bull ****!

DITTO!!!!
I don't think Cedar Hill has met the kind of team that constantly frustrates you by pounding it up the middle until you break....then moving outside to bring you back inside, etc. The Trinity defense can definitely stop the Hill offense with their speed, size, ability, and meanness. You might do something once on Trinity...but the second time you pay for it!!!

[trojanbacker]

I doubt that the top team in the district will have 3 losses. I don't think we really know what this district has for another five or six weeks. There's a lot of youth and inexperience at SGP and THS. Mac has won big but over who? Bell looked terrible last week against a pretty good Martin team. Jesuit will be good, just as they always are. Who knows?

[1981]

DITTO!!!!
I don't think Cedar Hill has met the kind of team that constantly frustrates you by pounding it up the middle until you break....then moving outside to bring you back inside, etc. The Trinity defense can definitely stop the Hill offense with their speed, size, ability, and meanness. You might do something once on Trinity...but the second time you pay for it!!!

You can DITTO all you want but NO ONE pounds Cedar Hill. No one! Trinity had better figure out how to throw. Cedar Hill is better than Trinity.

[stinger]

You can DITTO all you want but NO ONE pounds Cedar Hill. No one! Trinity had better figure out how to throw. Cedar Hill is better than Trinity.

You need to be on here for more than 32 posts to be able to say that. Trinity has more speed than ever. Their size is as usual, and as mean as always. The pass is improving every game; and receivers are as good as anybody's. To top it off...their pre-season schedule is far better than Cedar Hill's.
You can talk to me about being pounded AFTER you play Trinity...not till then. Try talking to others to confirm what I am saying.

[gritty52]

There's a strong rumor ET vs. Ch home and home starting in 08! HAKAAA!

[stinger]

1981.... Looks like you might get your answer on being pounded. Bring plenty of bandages and crow for after the games. Your wish may come true next year.

[TrinityTrojan80]

You can DITTO all you want but NO ONE pounds Cedar Hill. No one! Trinity had better figure out how to throw. Cedar Hill is better than Trinity.

If you're in Reddon, then we must be neighbors. How can you say that Cedar Hill is better than Trinity? I don't believe they have played each other this year. I don't believe it is very probable this year at all. Cedar Hill will most likely be DII, Trinity will be DI.
Good luck to Cedar Hill, but better than Trinity, I don't think so.

[1981]

If you're in Reddon, then we must be neighbors. How can you say that Cedar Hill is better than Trinity? I don't believe they have played each other this year. I don't believe it is very probable this year at all. Cedar Hill will most likely be DII, Trinity will be DI.
Good luck to Cedar Hill, but better than Trinity, I don't think so.

Classy post. You are right, I retract my statement that CH is better than Trinity. However, CH averages giving up less than 30 a game on the ground and that is what won them a title. Trinity has played no one like the kids at CH. The powerlifting team always is one of the tops in the state and it is the football team. I have seen Permian play a few times in the last year, so I am NOT an expert on them. However, what I have seen from them gives me no reason to believe that they could play with the longest winning streak in the state.

[Gangsta3]

1981.... Looks like you might get your answer on being pounded. Bring plenty of bandages and crow for after the games. Your wish may come true next year.

That is way too much pride for a team that has lost two of its last five games. Believe me, no one in Cedar Hill is scared.

[stinger]

That is way too much pride for a team that has lost two of its last five games. Believe me, no one in Cedar Hill is scared.

And what has the prairie done in the last 4 years..??? HMMMM I believe you are combining two years in those games> I might be wrong, but I believe Trinity is light years ahead of you in this one over time.

[Gangsta3]

And what has the prairie done in the last 4 years..??? HMMMM I believe you are combining two years in those games> I might be wrong, but I believe Trinity is light years ahead of you in this one over time.

GP hasn't done much over the last four. However, I am not on here spouting off like you are.

[CedarHillDad]

1981.... Looks like you might get your answer on being pounded. Bring plenty of bandages and crow for after the games. Your wish may come true next year.

It is not my place to say who would win a CHILL-ET matchup this year, because it won't happen. Next year hopefully we will do a home and home. But I will say this "bandages"? we don't need them, we can be just as physical with any team in this GREAT State and we give just as much if not more than we take.

[trainin' the game]

i think all these trinity fans are soooooooooo funny; guys i was saying that you better pray you go d1; i didn't say anything about cedar hill beating trinity. relax fellas you guys are going d1;). calm down:eek:.

but if it were to happen you guys are going to have to pass, and please don't think cedar hill is like slc; they are pretty physical as well; they just go at it from the spread.

the home and home i heard that as well; it should be pretty exciting.

calm down you guys can sleep; we're going d2 and you guys are going d1 geez.

[CedarHillDad]

i think all these trinity fans are soooooooooo funny; guys i was saying that you better pray you go d1; i didn't say anything about cedar hill beating trinity. relax fellas you guys are going d1;). calm down:eek:.

but if it were to happen you guys are going to have to pass, and please don't think cedar hill is like slc; they are pretty physical as well; they just go at it from the spread.

the home and home i heard that as well; it should be pretty exciting.

calm down you guys can sleep; we're going d2 and you guys are going d1 geez.


:eek: when I look at this thread tomorrow it is going to be thru the roof!!!!

[desotoeaglesgrad]

Talk about a role reversal! It was just two years ago that the schools that make up 8-5A now got swept out of the 1st round. They were 7-5A then; matbe that is the unlucky district number or something. :p

Speaking of Trinity, I would love to see DeSoto get back on their non-district schedule. They had some good games between each other.

[bleedblue]

You need to be on here for more than 32 posts to be able to say that. Trinity has more speed than ever. Their size is as usual, and as mean as always. The pass is improving every game; and receivers are as good as anybody's. To top it off...their pre-season schedule is far better than Cedar Hill's.
You can talk to me about being pounded AFTER you play Trinity...not till then. Try talking to others to confirm what I am saying.

Heh, the year Trinity won state they had no speed at all.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Heh, the year Trinity won state they had no speed at all.

Trinity evidently had just enough speed to win STATE and the best RB in the state - Dimitri Nance.

[hollywood]

"Nance (5-10, 200) would just as soon run you over as he would run around you." -- DMN

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/football/preview/stories/082505dnhswcover.172c749a.html

[jbusch]

Trinity evidently had just enough speed to win STATE and the best RB in the state - Dimitri Nance.

We have to define fast here, They had good speed , but not blazing fast as a team. the RB's and some receives were caught from behind many times, but it was usually 30-40 yards down the field after they ran somebody over. Speed in not that important if you are hard to tackle and can drag people several yards

[jbusch]

There's a strong rumor ET vs. Ch home and home starting in 08! HAKAAA!

As Riener from "the ticket" would say " there's a greater than zero chance that it will happen"

[trojanbacker]

You're right....those Trinity/DeSoto games were always memorable. I hope it works out that we play again.

As far as team speed goes, Trinity always has decent team speed. I think our kids get a bad rap as a team of having a bunch of big, slow players....but, if you watch the film and see how quickly those linemen get out in front of the play, they are anything but slow. Last year's Justise Campbell is a good example. He wasn't really thought of as fast, but against SLC he broke a long run and left Southlake's db's behind on the way to a TD. We may not have Olympic sprinters on the team, but we have a lot of guys who are pretty fast; certainly fast enough for the style they play.

[SLC93]

ANYTIME, Cedar Hill wants some of Trinity they BETTER BRING IT, DON'T SING IT. Obviously you were NOT told that Trinity is one of the few teams that prays, prays TO play the best programs. So now, no disrespect intended, Trinity is supposed to be afraid of Cedar Hill???? Bull ****!

That's what I'm talkin' about!:cool:

[SLC93]

teams in this district should pray they go d1; because cedar hill and desoto will sweep d2 no problem like last year; trust;).

Still not sold on Desoto, yet.

[SLC93]

You need to be on here for more than 32 posts to be able to say that. Trinity has more speed than ever. Their size is as usual, and as mean as always. The pass is improving every game; and receivers are as good as anybody's. To top it off...their pre-season schedule is far better than Cedar Hill's.
You can talk to me about being pounded AFTER you play Trinity...not till then. Try talking to others to confirm what I am saying.

Trinity brings the wood, consistently & for four quarters, like nobody else.

[SLC93]

Classy post. You are right, I retract my statement that CH is better than Trinity. However, CH averages giving up less than 30 a game on the ground and that is what won them a title. Trinity has played no one like the kids at CH. The powerlifting team always is one of the tops in the state and it is the football team. I have seen Permian play a few times in the last year, so I am NOT an expert on them. However, what I have seen from them gives me no reason to believe that they could play with the longest winning streak in the state.

Problem with that statement is folks have been saying that about Permian for 50 years.

[stinger]

You can DITTO all you want but NO ONE pounds Cedar Hill. No one! Trinity had better figure out how to throw. Cedar Hill is better than Trinity.

Crow is being served in buffet line number two. Larger portions and seconds are available!!:D

[bleedblue]

Once again I think tonight re-confirmed the weakness of 7-5A this year.

Trinity looks to be the class of the district, though not the team they were the past 3 seasons.

MacArthur beat Irving 60-14. Two years ago to this date is when Irving's program faded from glory, as their 18 game losing streak began, losing after starting 2005 4-0 and ranked #10 in the state by the AP. MacArthur is still a wildcard, who have they beat?

Bell hangs on to beat Grand Prairie 27-21. Grand Prairie isn't that good, and only winning by 6 points also isn't good. Penalties did hurt, but Bell is also a wildcard, blowing out two lousy teams in the 1st two games and being beaten soundly by a decent but not great Martin team.

Jesuit nearly loses to Irving Nimitz, a team who has not been competitive at all this year. Jesuit, expected to be among the top of this district, can't go on playing like that.

It's going to be interesting to see if 7-5A can win a game in bi-district. If it goes something like this(my predictions):

Division 1:

Trinity vs. Martin/Duncanville
Bell vs. Bowie

Division 2:

Jesuit vs. DeSoto
MacArthur vs. Cedar Hill

Then the only game that 7-5A will have a chance at winning would be Trinity, and even against an improved Martin/Duncanville team thats no guarantee.

[The Warrior]

Once again I think tonight re-confirmed the weakness of 7-5A this year.

Trinity looks to be the class of the district, though not the team they were the past 3 seasons.

MacArthur beat Irving 60-14. Two years ago to this date is when Irving's program faded from glory, as their 18 game losing streak began, losing after starting 2005 4-0 and ranked #10 in the state by the AP. MacArthur is still a wildcard, who have they beat?

Bell hangs on to beat Grand Prairie 27-21. Grand Prairie isn't that good, and only winning by 6 points also isn't good. Penalties did hurt, but Bell is also a wildcard, blowing out two lousy teams in the 1st two games and being beaten soundly by a decent but not great Martin team.

Jesuit nearly loses to Irving Nimitz, a team who has not been competitive at all this year. Jesuit, expected to be among the top of this district, can't go on playing like that.

It's going to be interesting to see if 7-5A can win a game in bi-district. If it goes something like this(my predictions):

Division 1:

Trinity vs. Martin/Duncanville
Bell vs. Bowie

Division 2:

Jesuit vs. DeSoto
MacArthur vs. Cedar Hill

Then the only game that 7-5A will have a chance at winning would be Trinity, and even against an improved Martin/Duncanville team thats no guarantee.

SGP will beat GP, Irving, Bell, Nimitz and Jesuit, and even if they lose to IMAC(not sure) At 5-2 will be at least the 3rd seed. They lost to 4 good teams, all with 3-1 records, so in this weak district, they will rise to #3.:cool:

[SGP 06 Alumni]

SGP will beat GP, Irving, Bell, Nimitz and Jesuit, and even if they lose to IMAC(not sure) At 5-2 will be at least the 3rd seed. They lost to 4 good teams, all with 3-1 records, so in this weak district, they will rise to #3.:cool:

God I hope you are right...:o

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

God I hope you are right...:o

LOL! I'll pray for the Warriors.

[trojanbacker]

I suppose that analysis of 7-5A is as good as any. It's all such a crap shoot at this point in the season that anyone's guess is just that, a guess. I think Trinity will be fine. Their defense is better than last year's and the offense is coming along, getting better every week. I think IMac is for real. I'm thankful we have them at home. Jesuit is competitive year-in and year-out and probably gave us our toughest game last year. We also get them at home. Bell....no clue. Is their quarterback healthy? SGP needs to find an offense. The district may be in for tough time come bi-district but I like Trinity's chances of advancing deep into the playoffs.

[sgp3]

In order for SGP to make the playoff they need to win out, that the bottom like SGP need to win out!!
SGP will beat GP, Irving, Bell, Nimitz and Jesuit, and even if they lose to IMAC(not sure) At 5-2 will be at least the 3rd seed. They lost to 4 good teams, all with 3-1 records, so in this weak district, they will rise to #3.:cool:

[theTrutHurts]

As Lee Corso says....Not so fast my friend

I would have to say that MacArthur and Trinity look to be the two strongest teams at this early point of the season.

SGP obviously has some issues on offense (47 points in 4 games)
They can probably play some defense though, haven't seen them in person
but have heard that Bates does not throw the ball very well

It is very early in the season, but it is time to start clicking

Bell has the ability to be a good team, but they cannot let the weaker teams in the district hang around in games. They have to develop the killer instinct and put teams away early and late. It seemed as though they were very conservative against GP, and penalties eliminated 70-100 yards rushing by Piper.

Football is a crazy and wonderful game, so you never know what will happen.

[Vols4Ever]

If SGP gets upset by the Gophers, that will spell doom for SGP this season.

However...... the chances of this are slim.

SGP - 42
GP - 21

[sgp3]

I don't think it will be a blowout but I just hope SGP can pull out a win at all cost!
If SGP gets upset by the Gophers, that will spell doom for SGP this season.

However...... the chances of this are slim.

SGP - 42
GP - 21

[T's UP 93]

How does SGP plan on scoring 42 points on anybody!!!!! # 36 I forget his name is not a bad RB but they need to run him outside! SGP passing game is pretty terrible! That throwing in the flat every other play hoping they break a tackle or 2 didn't work against Et at all. How far are they going to get running the ancient hook and ladder???? I saw first hand how bad your offense was. By the way how's the kid that got a couple teeth knocked out? Don't want to see no kid hurt. That happened in front of me. Good luck for the rest of the season!HAKAAAAAAAA!!!:D:D

[sgp3]

We don't discuss injury on the board.
How does SGP plan on scoring 42 points on anybody!!!!! # 36 I forget his name is not a bad RB but they need to run him outside! SGP passing game is pretty terrible! That throwing in the flat every other play hoping they break a tackle or 2 didn't work against Et at all. How far are they going to get running the ancient hook and ladder???? I saw first hand how bad your offense was. By the way how's the kid that got a couple teeth knocked out? Don't want to see no kid hurt. That happened in front of me. Good luck for the rest of the season!HAKAAAAAAAA!!!:D:D

[T's UP 93]

I see people checked on all the time on here!!!!

[TrojanFan4Life]

We don't discuss injury on the board.

It wasn't a discussion - it was "How is he?" We all know he lost a tooth/teeth - they were looking for them on the ground and he was spitting blood - and he was saying MY TOOTH - we in the ET stands aren't stupid - we are just hoping he is ok.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

I did not know one of our players lost teeth/tooth. That really sucks.

[powerofthehaka]

I did not know one of our players lost teeth/tooth. That really sucks.

He was decleated on our sideline. Pretty brutal but legal hit.

We are not trying to get "secret" info. We truly are concerned for his well being-I promise.

[RangerFan]

Trinity is still the class of the district. Mac & SGP will probably make the playoffs. Jesuit and Bell shoudl fight for the last playoff spot, although both are capable of beating SGP and Mac. I see five teams fighting for four spots, and I also think the remainign five will have a say in the end. Most agree that the top teams are not quite as good and the rest of the teams are better than they were last year. That makes for what should be a great playoff race. Good luck to all.