Anyone listen to 610 radio....

[dada]

....in Houston? LOL....I started a SWC war this morning and it's still going on.:D I'm such a trouble maker.

[Bobcat81]

You Rebel !!

[dada]

You Rebel !!

Didn't think it would blow up like that:D

[Bobcat81]

Didn't think it would blow up like that:D

So,..what did you do to get the pot boiling?

[dada]

So,..what did you do to get the pot boiling?

Brought up the fact that when The SWC dissolved they made a point to keep UofH and TCU out of the big 12...taking Texas Tech and BAYLOR who many think was an Ann Richards thing. The reason was...during the SWC Houston had it's way with the "BIG BOYS" and Dallas and Houston were the top 2 recruiting hotbeds in the state...if not the country...yet they have NO school in a major conferene. Then the calls started.......about how UT used to be known only as "The longhorns" and how they were UH's whipping boys...etc....etc.. and what IF UH was big 12 team...would UT have a national title if the "Houston Kid" VY stayed home....and it just turned into an all out battle royal......STILL going on....lol

[CyFallsMom]

that was YOU!!! OMG - I heard the whole thing! I was kind of on the fence about it because when I was growing up UH was called "Cougar High" because it was such a commuting school but then later on they took it to a lot of those old SWC schools with a vengeance. I was on the verge of hurting myself badly in '76 after the Texas/UH game;). One of my friends was in the UH band at the time and I never heard the end of it. I do think that UH would have been a better choice than Baylor although Baylor has had it's days of good play too - long ago but they did happen. TCU would have been a good one to put in the Big 12 also - they are not the TCU of the 70's that's for sure. My husband was there then and, other than travelling to Penn State, USC, Alabama and shaking hands with the Bear, he never knew what winning was like up there.

You started a PLETHORA of calls - did you hear the one guy talking about UH as a commuter school and they said "well, that commuter school did very well back in the late 80's".

I'm proud of you - I always want to call but am afraid I will do a Cindy Brady and freeze up and say nothing productive:p

[CyFallsMom]

by the way, I go back and forth between 610 and 790 on the way to and from work (forget 1560 - I can't stand Granato's arrogance) so I caught that one just as it was getting started.

[lonny23]

Brought up the fact that when The SWC dissolved they made a point to keep UofH and TCU out of the big 12...taking Texas Tech and BAYLOR who many think was an Ann Richards thing. The reason was...during the SWC Houston had it's way with the "BIG BOYS" and Dallas and Houston were the top 2 recruiting hotbeds in the state...if not the country...yet they have NO school in a major conferene. Then the calls started.......about how UT used to be known only as "The longhorns" and how they were UH's whipping boys...etc....etc.. and what IF UH was big 12 team...would UT have a national title if the "Houston Kid" VY stayed home....and it just turned into an all out battle royal......STILL going on....lol
Hey, it's true. All you have to do is go back and look at the history books. UH had a long run of Top 20 seasons from the 60's through the end of the 70's. It took SMU buying their way into wins to get Houston to stop pounding the SWC. UH couldn't keep up in the money game, but they had a resurgence in the late 80's. The big boys took advantage of a Houston downturn for a few years in the 90's to kick them to the curb. One of the former AD's at Houston said the SWC finally took them in 1976 to try to hold them down.

It should've been:

Houston
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

[dada]

that was YOU!!! OMG - I heard the whole thing! I was kind of on the fence about it because when I was growing up UH was called "Cougar High" because it was such a commuting school but then later on they took it to a lot of those old SWC schools with a vengeance. I was on the verge of hurting myself badly in '76 after the Texas/UH game;). One of my friends was in the UH band at the time and I never heard the end of it. I do think that UH would have been a better choice than Baylor although Baylor has had it's days of good play too - long ago but they did happen. TCU would have been a good one to put in the Big 12 also - they are not the TCU of the 70's that's for sure. My husband was there then and, other than travelling to Penn State, USC, Alabama and shaking hands with the Bear, he never knew what winning was like up there.

You started a PLETHORA of calls - did you hear the one guy talking about UH as a commuter school and they said "well, that commuter school did very well back in the late 80's".

I'm proud of you - I always want to call but am afraid I will do a Cindy Brady and freeze up and say nothing productive:p

Yeah...that was the same guy that said Houston wasnt a major market but couldn't answer why Baylor was there.

[LPMOM]

....in Houston? LOL....I started a SWC war this morning and it's still going on.:D I'm such a trouble maker.

way to go! sounds fun to me:D

[Bobcat81]

Brought up the fact that when The SWC dissolved they made a point to keep UofH and TCU out of the big 12...taking Texas Tech and BAYLOR who many think was an Ann Richards thing. The reason was...during the SWC Houston had it's way with the "BIG BOYS" and Dallas and Houston were the top 2 recruiting hotbeds in the state...if not the country...yet they have NO school in a major conferene. Then the calls started.......about how UT used to be known only as "The longhorns" and how they were UH's whipping boys...etc....etc.. and what IF UH was big 12 team...would UT have a national title if the "Houston Kid" VY stayed home....and it just turned into an all out battle royal......STILL going on....lol

Haha.. yup, that would get things started for sure!

[dada]

Haha.. yup, that would get things started for sure!

Just think about the "What if's"...what if the 5 star recruits from Houston and Dallas could stay home and play in a major conference. Who would suffer if Art Briles could go sit on a kids coach and say "Come to UH, get the oppurtunity to be close to home, play in the Big 12, have a shot at the Big 12 title, have the chance to play in a major bowl and be in the national title mix" instead of "come play for the Conference USA title" or in TCU's case the "Mountain West". You have two HUGE media markets in D/FW and Houston.....great athletes every where...yet...no major conference. That would be like putting Ohio St in the MAC, USC in the WAC and Miami in the Sun Belt.

[lonny23]

Just think about the "What if's"...what if the 5 star recruits from Houston and Dallas could stay home and play in a major conference. Who would suffer if Art Briles could go sit on a kids coach and say "Come to UH, get the oppurtunity to be close to home, play in the Big 12, have a shot at the Big 12 title, have the chance to play in a major bowl and be in the national title mix" instead of "come play for the Conference USA title" or in TCU's case the "Mountain West". You have two HUGE media markets in D/FW and Houston.....great athletes every where...yet...no major conference. That would be like putting Ohio St in the MAC, USC in the WAC and Miami in the Sun Belt.
UH in the Big 12 would kill A&M under the current regime and it would make Texas into a slightly above average team again. UT would have their years where they would be the best team in Texas, but they'd be sharing the best team title with other teams in Texas, UH in the Big 12 would be a tradeoff for Tech. They'd beat Texas more often, but they'd also lose to Houston some where they don't lose to Baylor now. TCU in the Big 12 would probably be an equal hit for Tech, UT, and A&M. I think all 3 would get worse.

[Bobcat81]

Just think about the "What if's"...what if the 5 star recruits from Houston and Dallas could stay home and play in a major conference. Who would suffer if Art Briles could go sit on a kids coach and say "Come to UH, get the oppurtunity to be close to home, play in the Big 12, have a shot at the Big 12 title, have the chance to play in a major bowl and be in the national title mix" instead of "come play for the Conference USA title" or in TCU's case the "Mountain West". You have two HUGE media markets in D/FW and Houston.....great athletes every where...yet...no major conference. That would be like putting Ohio St in the MAC, USC in the WAC and Miami in the Sun Belt.

I have often thought about those same things as well.

A lot of guys would have liked to have played for those schools had they stayed in the SWC. I may be wrong, but it seemed like a notoriety thing being able to play other big schools in the conference. Most of the schools that had to leave sort of became "forgotten" and never got the exposure they would have had if they were still part of the SWC. A lot of good coaching talent left because of it too.

[dada]

I have often thought about those same things as well.

A lot of guys would have liked to have played for those schools had they stayed in the SWC. I may be wrong, but it seemed like a notoriety thing being able to play other big schools in the conference. Most of the schools that had to leave sort of became "forgotten" and never got the exposure they would have had if they were still part of the SWC. A lot of good coaching talent left because of it too.

I heard (Maybe Lonny knows more) that there were a lot of politics going on about it. They literally put up a fight to keep these two schools out and some say UH was never even considered. It's not about just football though...at that time UH was a basketball powerhouse.....great track and field sports also. Yet Baylor and Tech gets in. Some think Ann Richards got Baylor in. But can anyone give a legit answer on why Tech and Baylor got in and TCU and UH didnt?

[Bobcat81]

UH in the Big 12 would kill A&M under the current regime and it would make Texas into a slightly above average team again. UT would have their years where they would be the best team in Texas, but they'd be sharing the best team title with other teams in Texas, UH in the Big 12 would be a tradeoff for Tech. They'd beat Texas more often, but they'd also lose to Houston some where they don't lose to Baylor now. TCU in the Big 12 would probably be an equal hit for Tech, UT, and A&M. I think all 3 would get worse.

Yeah,..U of H would have been a heavy conference contender no doubt.

I've never bothered to look into it, but who had the most Cotton Bowl appearances from 1970-1985?

To think of it...A&M might not have had to deal with Fran...and that's coming from an A&M fan!

[Bobcat81]

I found it...

Cotton Bowl appearances 1937-

Date Played Winning Team Losing Team notes
January 1, 1937 TCU 16 Marquette 6
January 1, 1938 Rice 28 Colorado 14
January 2, 1939 Saint Mary's (CA) 20 Texas Tech 13
January 1, 1940 Clemson 6 Boston College 3
January 1, 1941 Texas A&M 13 Fordham 12
January 1, 1942 Alabama 29 Texas A&M 21
January 1, 1943 Texas 14 Georgia Tech 7
January 1, 1944 Texas 7 Randolph Field 7
January 1, 1945 Oklahoma State 34 TCU 0
January 1, 1946 Texas 40 Missouri 27
January 1, 1947 Arkansas 0 LSU 0
January 1, 1948 SMU 13 Penn State 13
January 1, 1949 SMU 21 Oregon 13
January 2, 1950 Rice 27 North Carolina 13
January 1, 1951 Tennessee 20 Texas 14
January 1, 1952 Kentucky 20 TCU 7
January 1, 1953 Texas 16 Tennessee 0
January 1, 1954 Rice 28 Alabama 6
January 1, 1955 Georgia Tech 14 Arkansas 6
January 2, 1956 Mississippi 14 TCU 13
January 1, 1957 TCU 28 Syracuse 27
January 1, 1958 Navy 20 Rice 7
January 1, 1959 TCU 0 Air Force 0
January 1, 1960 Syracuse 23 Texas 14
January 2, 1961 Duke 7 Arkansas 6
January 1, 1962 Texas 12 Mississippi 7
January 1, 1963 LSU 13 Texas 0
January 1, 1964 Texas 28 Navy 6
January 1, 1965 Arkansas 10 Nebraska 7
January 1, 1966 LSU 14 Arkansas 7
December 31, 1966 Georgia 24 SMU 9
January 1, 1968 Texas A&M 20 Alabama 16
January 1, 1969 Texas 36 Tennessee 13
January 1, 1970 Texas 21 Notre Dame 17
January 1, 1971 Notre Dame 24 Texas 11
January 1, 1972 Penn State 30 Texas 6
January 1, 1973 Texas 17 Alabama 13
January 1, 1974 Nebraska 19 Texas 3
January 1, 1975 Penn State 41 Baylor 20
January 1, 1976 Arkansas 31 Georgia 10
January 1, 1977 Houston 30 Maryland 21
January 2, 1978 Notre Dame 38 Texas 10
January 1, 1979 Notre Dame 35 Houston 34
January 1, 1980 Houston 17 Nebraska 14
January 1, 1981 Alabama 30 Baylor 2
January 1, 1982 Texas 14 Alabama 12
January 1, 1983 SMU 7 Pittsburgh 3
January 2, 1984 Georgia 10 Texas 9
January 1, 1985 Boston College 45 Houston 28
January 1, 1986 Texas A&M 36 Auburn 16
January 1, 1987 Ohio State 28 Texas A&M 12
January 1, 1988 Texas A&M 35 Notre Dame 10
January 2, 1989 UCLA 17 Arkansas 3
January 1, 1990 Tennessee 31 Arkansas 27 January 1, 1991 Miami 46 Texas 3
January 1, 1992 Florida State 10 Texas A&M 2
January 1, 1993 Notre Dame 28 Texas A&M 3
January 1, 1994 Notre Dame 24 Texas A&M 21
January 2, 1995 USC 55 Texas Tech 14
January 1, 1996 Colorado 38 Oregon 6
January 1, 1997 BYU 19 Kansas State 15
January 1, 1998 UCLA 29 Texas A&M 23
January 1, 1999 Texas 38 Mississippi State 11
January 1, 2000 Arkansas 27 Texas 6
January 1, 2001 Kansas State 35 Tennessee 21
January 1, 2002 Oklahoma 10 Arkansas 3
January 1, 2003 Texas 35 LSU 20
January 2, 2004 Mississippi 31 Oklahoma State 28
January 1, 2005 Tennessee 38 Texas A&M 7 notes
January 2, 2006 Alabama 13 Texas Tech 10 notes
January 1, 2007 Auburn 17 Nebraska 14 notes


I took it to the year 1990 instead of 85

[Bobcat81]

Some SWC notables:

The SWC had many legendary players and coaches over the years. In football, Dana Bible, Jess Neely, Paul "Bear" Bryant, Darrell Royal, Hayden Fry, Frank Broyles, Lou Holtz, Gene Stallings, Spike Dykes, Bill Yeoman and Grant Teaff all served as head coaches in the conference. Some notable SWC players included Davey O'Brien, Sammy Baugh, Bobby Layne, Doak Walker, Tom Landry, Dickey Moegle, Jack Pardee, John David Crow, Jim Swink, Bob Lilly, Tommy Nobis, Jerry LeVias, James Street, Roosevelt Leaks, Donnie Trull, Donnie Anderson, Steve McMichael, Earl Campbell, Dan Hampton, Rick Fenlaw, Mike Singletary, Eric Dickerson, Andre Ware, Quentin Coryatt, Zach Thomas, Richmond Webb, James Francis, Ray Childress, Ricky Williams, and Priest Holmes.

The early 1980s were the glory years of SWC basketball, especially the Phi Slama Jama teams at the University of Houston. Outstanding basketball coaches included Eddie Sutton, Guy V. Lewis, Nolan Richardson, Tom Penders, Abe Lemons, Shelby Metcalf and Gerald Myers. Great SWC hoops players included Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Vinnie Johnson, Jon Koncak, Joe Kleine, B.J. Tyler and Todd Day.

SWC Baseball was dominated year-in-year-out by the Texas Longhorns, who under legendary coach Cliff Gustafson won national titles in 1975 and 1983. Roger Clemens is the most prominent SWC baseball alum

[GoOwls]

I heard (Maybe Lonny knows more) that there were a lot of politics going on about it. They literally put up a fight to keep these two schools out and some say UH was never even considered. It's not about just football though...at that time UH was a basketball powerhouse.....great track and field sports also. Yet Baylor and Tech gets in. Some think Ann Richards got Baylor in. But can anyone give a legit answer on why Tech and Baylor got in and TCU and UH didnt?


I can only suppose the politics of the decision, but I remember the times well.

Many people in the SWC resented Houston being allowed in to begin with. They were a "city", "commuter" school and not worthy of the SWC. Then they had success and the powers that be were scrambling to find ways to get them out.

TCU was always seen as the perenial dormat of the SWC, along with Rice. They had no chance.

Tech was a state school that had TEXAS in it's name...if Texas and A&M go to the Big 12, then there were political pressures for Tech to go too. Also, Tech had enough success to show promise in a bigger league.

Baylor was a private school, like TCU and SMU, so that was a strike against them, however they did have occasional success. I can't think of a major reason for them to be included in the Big 12, so the Ann Richards connection may be true, but I don't know.

Houston was allowed in the SWC to get the Houston market into the SWC. It was purely financial. They were supposed to be successful enough to invigorate the Houston television ratings in the SWC, but they got TOO competitive and had to be let go.

During the 80's and early 90's there was a name that I often heard around the Dallas area for the Houston Cougars, from SWC purists and fans, and I can't repeat it here. Let's just say that there wasn't much love for them in the heartland of the SWC.

[dada]

Yeah,..U of H would have been a heavy conference contender no doubt.

I've never bothered to look into it, but who had the most Cotton Bowl appearances from 1970-1985?

To think of it...A&M might not have had to deal with Fran...and that's coming from an A&M fan!

From 70-85 Ut was 3-5 in the Cotton Bowl, UH was 2-2 since 77 to the end of the SWC I think the cougars had more apperances. UT had 5 SWC championships in that period, UH had 4. I could be wrong, but I think UH joined the SWC in 1976 and won conference Championship in football their first year.

[dada]

I found it...

Cotton Bowl appearances 1937-

Date Played Winning Team Losing Team notes
January 1, 1937 TCU 16 Marquette 6
January 1, 1938 Rice 28 Colorado 14
January 2, 1939 Saint Mary's (CA) 20 Texas Tech 13
January 1, 1940 Clemson 6 Boston College 3
January 1, 1941 Texas A&M 13 Fordham 12
January 1, 1942 Alabama 29 Texas A&M 21
January 1, 1943 Texas 14 Georgia Tech 7
January 1, 1944 Texas 7 Randolph Field 7
January 1, 1945 Oklahoma State 34 TCU 0
January 1, 1946 Texas 40 Missouri 27
January 1, 1947 Arkansas 0 LSU 0
January 1, 1948 SMU 13 Penn State 13
January 1, 1949 SMU 21 Oregon 13
January 2, 1950 Rice 27 North Carolina 13
January 1, 1951 Tennessee 20 Texas 14
January 1, 1952 Kentucky 20 TCU 7
January 1, 1953 Texas 16 Tennessee 0
January 1, 1954 Rice 28 Alabama 6
January 1, 1955 Georgia Tech 14 Arkansas 6
January 2, 1956 Mississippi 14 TCU 13
January 1, 1957 TCU 28 Syracuse 27
January 1, 1958 Navy 20 Rice 7
January 1, 1959 TCU 0 Air Force 0
January 1, 1960 Syracuse 23 Texas 14
January 2, 1961 Duke 7 Arkansas 6
January 1, 1962 Texas 12 Mississippi 7
January 1, 1963 LSU 13 Texas 0
January 1, 1964 Texas 28 Navy 6
January 1, 1965 Arkansas 10 Nebraska 7
January 1, 1966 LSU 14 Arkansas 7
December 31, 1966 Georgia 24 SMU 9
January 1, 1968 Texas A&M 20 Alabama 16
January 1, 1969 Texas 36 Tennessee 13
January 1, 1970 Texas 21 Notre Dame 17
January 1, 1971 Notre Dame 24 Texas 11
January 1, 1972 Penn State 30 Texas 6
January 1, 1973 Texas 17 Alabama 13
January 1, 1974 Nebraska 19 Texas 3
January 1, 1975 Penn State 41 Baylor 20
January 1, 1976 Arkansas 31 Georgia 10
January 1, 1977 Houston 30 Maryland 21
January 2, 1978 Notre Dame 38 Texas 10
January 1, 1979 Notre Dame 35 Houston 34
January 1, 1980 Houston 17 Nebraska 14
January 1, 1981 Alabama 30 Baylor 2
January 1, 1982 Texas 14 Alabama 12
January 1, 1983 SMU 7 Pittsburgh 3
January 2, 1984 Georgia 10 Texas 9
January 1, 1985 Boston College 45 Houston 28
January 1, 1986 Texas A&M 36 Auburn 16
January 1, 1987 Ohio State 28 Texas A&M 12
January 1, 1988 Texas A&M 35 Notre Dame 10
January 2, 1989 UCLA 17 Arkansas 3
January 1, 1990 Tennessee 31 Arkansas 27 January 1, 1991 Miami 46 Texas 3
January 1, 1992 Florida State 10 Texas A&M 2
January 1, 1993 Notre Dame 28 Texas A&M 3
January 1, 1994 Notre Dame 24 Texas A&M 21
January 2, 1995 USC 55 Texas Tech 14
January 1, 1996 Colorado 38 Oregon 6
January 1, 1997 BYU 19 Kansas State 15
January 1, 1998 UCLA 29 Texas A&M 23
January 1, 1999 Texas 38 Mississippi State 11
January 1, 2000 Arkansas 27 Texas 6
January 1, 2001 Kansas State 35 Tennessee 21
January 1, 2002 Oklahoma 10 Arkansas 3
January 1, 2003 Texas 35 LSU 20
January 2, 2004 Mississippi 31 Oklahoma State 28
January 1, 2005 Tennessee 38 Texas A&M 7 notes
January 2, 2006 Alabama 13 Texas Tech 10 notes
January 1, 2007 Auburn 17 Nebraska 14 notes


I took it to the year 1990 instead of 85

The year Houston beat Maryland in the Cotton bowl I think that was their first year in the SWC.

[Bobcat81]

U of H's Bowl history..

Season Bowl Opponent W/L Score
1951 Salad Dayton W 26-21
1962 Tangerine Miami (OH) W 49-21
1969 Bluebonnet Auburn W 36-7
1971 Bluebonnet Colorado L 17-29
1973 Bluebonnet Tulane W 47-7
1974 Bluebonnet N.C. State T 31-31
1976 Cotton Maryland W 30-21
1978 Cotton Notre Dame L 34-35
1979 Cotton Nebraska W 17-14
1980 Garden State Navy W 35-0
1981 Sun Oklahoma L 14-40
1984 Cotton Boston College L 28-45
1988 Aloha Wash. State L 22-24
1996 Liberty Syracuse L 17-30
2005 Fort Worth Kansas L 42-13
2006 Liberty South Carolina L 44-36

I had forgotten all about the "Bluebonnet Bowl" lol

[lonny23]

I found it...

Cotton Bowl appearances 1937-

Date Played Winning Team Losing Team notes
January 1, 1937 TCU 16 Marquette 6
January 1, 1938 Rice 28 Colorado 14
January 2, 1939 Saint Mary's (CA) 20 Texas Tech 13
January 1, 1940 Clemson 6 Boston College 3
January 1, 1941 Texas A&M 13 Fordham 12
January 1, 1942 Alabama 29 Texas A&M 21
January 1, 1943 Texas 14 Georgia Tech 7
January 1, 1944 Texas 7 Randolph Field 7
January 1, 1945 Oklahoma State 34 TCU 0
January 1, 1946 Texas 40 Missouri 27
January 1, 1947 Arkansas 0 LSU 0
January 1, 1948 SMU 13 Penn State 13
January 1, 1949 SMU 21 Oregon 13
January 2, 1950 Rice 27 North Carolina 13
January 1, 1951 Tennessee 20 Texas 14
January 1, 1952 Kentucky 20 TCU 7
January 1, 1953 Texas 16 Tennessee 0
January 1, 1954 Rice 28 Alabama 6
January 1, 1955 Georgia Tech 14 Arkansas 6
January 2, 1956 Mississippi 14 TCU 13
January 1, 1957 TCU 28 Syracuse 27
January 1, 1958 Navy 20 Rice 7
January 1, 1959 TCU 0 Air Force 0
January 1, 1960 Syracuse 23 Texas 14
January 2, 1961 Duke 7 Arkansas 6
January 1, 1962 Texas 12 Mississippi 7
January 1, 1963 LSU 13 Texas 0
January 1, 1964 Texas 28 Navy 6
January 1, 1965 Arkansas 10 Nebraska 7
January 1, 1966 LSU 14 Arkansas 7
December 31, 1966 Georgia 24 SMU 9
January 1, 1968 Texas A&M 20 Alabama 16
January 1, 1969 Texas 36 Tennessee 13
January 1, 1970 Texas 21 Notre Dame 17
January 1, 1971 Notre Dame 24 Texas 11
January 1, 1972 Penn State 30 Texas 6
January 1, 1973 Texas 17 Alabama 13
January 1, 1974 Nebraska 19 Texas 3
January 1, 1975 Penn State 41 Baylor 20
January 1, 1976 Arkansas 31 Georgia 10
January 1, 1977 Houston 30 Maryland 21
January 2, 1978 Notre Dame 38 Texas 10
January 1, 1979 Notre Dame 35 Houston 34
January 1, 1980 Houston 17 Nebraska 14
January 1, 1981 Alabama 30 Baylor 2
January 1, 1982 Texas 14 Alabama 12
January 1, 1983 SMU 7 Pittsburgh 3
January 2, 1984 Georgia 10 Texas 9
January 1, 1985 Boston College 45 Houston 28
January 1, 1986 Texas A&M 36 Auburn 16
January 1, 1987 Ohio State 28 Texas A&M 12
January 1, 1988 Texas A&M 35 Notre Dame 10
January 2, 1989 UCLA 17 Arkansas 3
January 1, 1990 Tennessee 31 Arkansas 27 January 1, 1991 Miami 46 Texas 3
January 1, 1992 Florida State 10 Texas A&M 2
January 1, 1993 Notre Dame 28 Texas A&M 3
January 1, 1994 Notre Dame 24 Texas A&M 21
January 2, 1995 USC 55 Texas Tech 14
January 1, 1996 Colorado 38 Oregon 6
January 1, 1997 BYU 19 Kansas State 15
January 1, 1998 UCLA 29 Texas A&M 23
January 1, 1999 Texas 38 Mississippi State 11
January 1, 2000 Arkansas 27 Texas 6
January 1, 2001 Kansas State 35 Tennessee 21
January 1, 2002 Oklahoma 10 Arkansas 3
January 1, 2003 Texas 35 LSU 20
January 2, 2004 Mississippi 31 Oklahoma State 28
January 1, 2005 Tennessee 38 Texas A&M 7 notes
January 2, 2006 Alabama 13 Texas Tech 10 notes
January 1, 2007 Auburn 17 Nebraska 14 notes


I took it to the year 1990 instead of 85Houston was only in the SWC for the 1977-1995 Cotton Bowls. They went 3 of their first 4 years in the SWC.

[lonny23]

From 70-85 Ut was 3-5 in the Cotton Bowl, UH was 2-2 since 77 to the end of the SWC I think the cougars had more apperances. UT had 5 SWC championships in that period, UH had 4. I could be wrong, but I think UH joined the SWC in 1976 and won conference Championship in football their first year.
They were accepted in 1971 and started play in 1976. My grandparents always thought the SWC tried to keep UH out, but I read where they brought them in because UH was getting too good. Much of it was the fault of the 60's. UH would play black players and the other guys wouldn't. UH was a dominant independent team from like 1962-1976.

Truth be told, I'm not sure Tech didn't get in the SWC in 1960 for the same reason. They were winning the Border Conference almost every year before joining the SWC.

Final Polls in the old days:

1960 AP
7. Arkansas
12. Baylor

1960 UPI
7. Arkansas
11. Baylor
17. Texas

1961 AP
3. Texas
9. Arkansas
17. Rice

1961 UPI
4. Texas
8. Arkansas

1962 AP Top 10
4. Texas
6. Arkansas

1962 UPI
4. Texas
6. Arkansas

1963 AP Top 10
1. Texas

1963 UPI
1. Texas
20. Baylor

1964 AP Top 10
2. Arkansas
5. Texas

1964 UPI
2. Arkansas
5. Texas

1965 AP Top 10
3. Arkansas

1965 UPI
2. Arkansas
10. Texas Tech

1966 AP Top 10
10. SMU

1966 UPI
9. SMU
13. Arkansas
17. Houston

1967 Nobody in AP Top 10

1967 UPI
19. Houston

1968 AP
3. Texas
6. Arkansas
14. SMU
18. Houston

1968 UPI
5. Texas
9. Arkansas
16. SMU
20. Houston

1969 AP
1. Texas
7. Arkansas
12. Houston

1969 UPI
1. Texas
3. Arkansas
16. Houston

1970 AP
3. Texas
11. Arkansas
16. Air Force
19. Houston

1970 UPI
1. Texas
11. Air Force (1 of their 2 Sugar Bowl appearances)
12. Arkansas
13. Houston (UH was ranked all 4 years my uncle was in college from 67-70)

1971 AP
16. Arkansas
17. Houston
18. Texas

1971 UPI
12. Texas
14. Houston
20. Arkansas

1972 AP
3. Texas

1972 UPI
5. Texas

1973 AP
9. Houston
11. Texas Tech
14. Texas

1973 UPI
8. Texas
11. Texas Tech
13. Houston

1974 AP
14. Baylor
16. Texas A&M
17. Texas
19. Houston

1974* UPI
11. Houston
14. Baylor
15. Texas A&M
*Beginning in 1974, by agreement with the American Football Coaches Association, teams on probation by the NCAA were ineligible for ranking and national championship consideration by the UPI Board of coaches

1975 AP
6. Texas
7. Arkansas
11. Texas A&M

1975 UPI
6. Arkansas
7. Texas
12. Texas A&M

1976 AP
4. Houston
5. Oklahoma
7. Texas A&M
9. Nebraska
13. Texas Tech
14. Oklahoma State
16. Colorado
19. Iowa State

1976 UPI
4. Houston
6. Oklahoma
7. Nebraska
8. Texas A&M
13. Texas Tech
14. Oklahoma State
16. Colorado
18. Iowa State
19. Baylor (That was a great year for the Big 12, er SWC/Big 8!)

1977 AP
3. Arkansas
4. Texas

1977 UPI
3. Arkansas
5. Texas
16. North Texas St. (Top that Dodge!:p)

1978 AP
9. Texas
10. Houston
11. Arkansas
19. Texas A&M

1978 UPI
9. Texas
10. Arkansas
11. Houston
18. Texas A&M

1979 AP
5. Houston
8. Arkansas
12. Texas
14. Baylor

1979 UPI
5. Houston
9. Arkansas
13. Texas
15. Baylor

Houston ended the year in the Top 20 11 times in the 14 years between 1966-1979. They fell off when the big money of the SWC started taking off in the 80's. They did play in the 1985 Cotton Bowl and were ranked to end 1988-1990, but the other years from 1980-1995 were leaner than the glory days.

[lonny23]

U of H's Bowl history..

Season Bowl Opponent W/L Score
1951 Salad Dayton W 26-21
1962 Tangerine Miami (OH) W 49-21
1969 Bluebonnet Auburn W 36-7
1971 Bluebonnet Colorado L 17-29
1973 Bluebonnet Tulane W 47-7
1974 Bluebonnet N.C. State T 31-31
1976 Cotton Maryland W 30-21
1978 Cotton Notre Dame L 34-35
1979 Cotton Nebraska W 17-14
1980 Garden State Navy W 35-0
1981 Sun Oklahoma L 14-40
1984 Cotton Boston College L 28-45
1988 Aloha Wash. State L 22-24
1996 Liberty Syracuse L 17-30
2005 Fort Worth Kansas L 42-13
2006 Liberty South Carolina L 44-36

I had forgotten all about the "Bluebonnet Bowl" lolThe miserable part of rooting for these guys is I watched the games in bold and the Final Four runs fron 1982-1984. That Cotton Bowl against Notre Dame was played in -40 wind chill and was when Joe Montana brought them back from 34-14 down in the last 8 minutes. Otherwise UH would've had another Top 5 finish in the polls and I think it would've been 3rd or 4th.

[ACM Dad]

I miss the SWC. There was no need to break them up in my opinion. Pretty sad day if you ask me. I went to A&M for a few years, got a job, then went back to UH. I took a lot of cougar high grief from my aggie friends, but they don't give away math and chemistry degrees at UH. You have to earn them.

People dog UH pretty badly. There's a lot of racial prejudice from the days I was there (early 80's) and even now. It's thought to be an "inner city" school or I've heard, 'it's a black school, right?"

Pretty sad actually. but, I agree with dada, they kept UH and TCU out of the Big 12 for a reason. TCU has a proud history. No reason for the way it went down. Baylor is a bit of a joke when it comes to being competitive these days. Heck, several CUSA schools (Tulsa and UH) could whip them right now.

Oh well, wish I'd heard 610 this AM. I love listening to peoples' blood pressure rise. Good job!

[lonny23]

I miss the SWC. There was no need to break them up in my opinion. Pretty sad day if you ask me. I went to A&M for a few years, got a job, then went back to UH. I took a lot of cougar high grief from my aggie friends, but they don't give away math and chemistry degrees at UH. You have to earn them.

People dog UH pretty badly. There's a lot of racial prejudice from the days I was there (early 80's) and even now. It's thought to be an "inner city" school or I've heard, 'it's a black school, right?"

Pretty sad actually. but, I agree with dada, they kept UH and TCU out of the Big 12 for a reason. TCU has a proud history. No reason for the way it went down. Baylor is a bit of a joke when it comes to being competitive these days. Heck, several CUSA schools (Tulsa and UH) could whip them right now.

Oh well, wish I'd heard 610 this AM. I love listening to peoples' blood pressure rise. Good job!
Yes, UH gets called a black school and gets dogged for the location and neighborhood. I'm sure SMU had their comments about Houston, too. 3 weeks ago, I saw a sign at the SMU game that said Tech was a mediocre junior college in Northern Mexico.

To answer the questions before, it talks about the whole breakup in the 2004 edition of Texas Football, but it was also in an article in the Dallas Morning News football preview several years ago.

Houston thought about going to the SEC as did A&M. UT thought about going to the Pac-10 after the Pigs left. Bob Bullock cornered UT's chancellor when he heard a rumor that they might leave the SWC. A&M didn't want UT to leave them high and dry. The powers at the capital threatened to cut the 'horn and Aggie funding if they left Tech and Baylor high and dry. Tech and Baylor came along because of Bob Bullock, Ann Richards, and Pete Laney.

Bullock- The Lieutenant Governor and he went to Hill College, Texas Tech, and Baylor. The main pusher for Tech and Baylor.

Richards- The Govenor who went to Baylor and later on Texas. She wasn't as active in forcing Tech and Baylor in.

Laney- The Speaker of the House and a Tech grad.

It all came down to who was running the state at the time of the breakup.

[klein_oak_panthers]

The miserable part of rooting for these guys is I watched the games in bold and the Final Four runs fron 1982-1984. That Cotton Bowl against Notre Dame was played in -40 wind chill and was when Joe Montana brought them back from 34-14 down in the last 8 minutes. Otherwise UH would've had another Top 5 finish in the polls and I think it would've been 3rd or 4th.

Chicken soup! That's what we heard. Joe Montana was sick-as-a-dog and on the sidelines with a fever. We, (the U of H fans freezing to death), thought for sure we had the game well in hand. But, then Joe came back into the game and beat us, after having some chicken soup on the sidelines. Never underestimate the power of prayer and some good old chicken soup, I guess! Still remember that game, thanks for the memory, Lonny!

[lonny23]

Chicken soup! That's what we heard. Joe Montana was sick-as-a-dog and on the sidelines with a fever. We, (the U of H fans freezing to death), thought for sure we had the game well in hand. But, then Joe came back into the game and beat us, after having some chicken soup on the sidelines. Never underestimate the power of prayer and some good old chicken soup, I guess! Still remember that game, thanks for the memory, Lonny!
Yeah, he had chicken soup. I think they took Montana into the locker room during the 2nd Quarter. I was watching a replay of the game a few years ago.

Man, it was cold that week. I remember it was super cold when we went to a New Year's Eve church service outside of Tyler the night before and one of our family friends was stuck at our house because of all the ice. My uncle was run over by a car and put in the hospital because it was so icy and the car couldn't keep from sliding on the ice while he was walking a pipeline.

That was the first Cotton Bowl I ever watched as a kid.

[TXFOOSBALL]

Yeah, he had chicken soup. I think they took Montana into the locker room during the 2nd Quarter. I was watching a replay of the game a few years ago.

Man, it was cold that week. I remember it was super cold when we went to a New Year's Eve church service outside of Tyler the night before and one of our family friends was stuck at our house because of all the ice. My uncle was run over by a car and put in the hospital because it was so icy and the car couldn't keep from sliding on the ice while he was walking a pipeline.

That was the first Cotton Bowl I ever watched as a kid.


I have that game on DVD. Montana came back into the game with about 5 minutes remaining in the 3rd. The kicker for ND was from dallas and he was starting only because the other kicker was injured. He kicked the extra point twice to win the game. It was 20 degrees but the teams managed to scored a record of 59 points combined at the cotton bowl.