Garland vs. South Garland

[Black&Gold06]

The week has arrived. Even with the emergence of Rowlett, this game is still probably more of a bloodbath and spirited game. The owls are without Sloan but their passing game has seemed to pick up a little (even if we did play Naaman), and South has improved with their QB change. Can the Owls plug past the SG defense and can the Colonels throw on the experienced Garland D with the likes of Crosby, McDowell, and Murphy in the defensive backfield?

[drgnbkr]

I don't follow your teams as closely as you, but I think it's a healthy rivalry in your district. Normally having multiple schools in one city dilutes the teams, but it has'nt seemed to effect you guys..good luck to both!

[owldog]

More people were talking about this game after church this morning than any other subject and we go to church in Richardson. Go OWLS

[Roughrider]

So what is the feeling in Owl town this week?? Are the Owls going to soar high and mighty over the, what seems like, small SG Colonels?

[ktchamp97]

Although losing to Rolwett, SG has found their offense, it seems. Nick Florence has thrown for 600 yards in basically two games while completing 57% of his passes. Losing Derron Montgomery was huge, but the Colonels still have some weapons. Garland should win, but South is not a team to be taken too lightly.

[travisk44]

I think the only way Garland can find success against SG's 'd' is to pass the ball. SG has shut down the top two rushers in the DFW area (Pierce and Mon Williams) and with out Sloan Garland is going to have a tough time getting anything going on the ground. The air attack is important for the Colonels as well. If the Garland d-line and linebackers can get to the So. Florence, they will throw off the Colonel's game plan. Now Phillip Payne only got one touch in the LCHS game, but that was most likely making sure he doesn't get hurt like Montgomery. I wouldn't be shocked if the Colonels use him in very creative ways to mix up the Garland defense.

My pick:
Garland - 21
South Garland - 24

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Garland's secondary is phenomenal..SG has a solid recieving core. Keys here are the passing attack from Garland, and the rushing attack of SG, oddly enough!

Overall, it's a good match-up....and possibly the game of the week. This game will NOT be a blow-out!

Garland 28
South Garland 21

GO OWLS!!

[Roughrider]

With the addition of that 300lb lineman, sounds like the Owls are pretty dang big on both sides of the ball. Does SG really stand a chance?

[ThEgReAtOnE]

With the addition of that 300lb lineman, sounds like the Owls are pretty dang big on both sides of the ball. Does SG really stand a chance?

300lb lineman??

[GoOwls]

His name is Kennedy and is a Senior transfer from Rusk. He has been waiting out his eligibility and learning the offense. 6'3" 300 lbs, or more. He played all but the first 2 series against Naaman last week in his first action. I believe the coaches wanted him to get as many snaps in game conditions as possible as he will start against South.

I saw South Thursday night and wasn't that impressed with the size, but boy do you have speed at the skill positions. Should be an interesting game.

[LoboFan07]

For playoff purposes...GO OWLS! in this one.

Either way I see Garland winning this one.

[garlandredraider]

haha thanks lobofan. As an Alumni, I really hope Garland pulls it together and stops letting South push them around. I was there when Garland was on their 10 game winning streak of beating South. Man how South has grown. My senior year (when we lost to longview, ) we beat South like 59-17. The next year we get beat like 18-13.

Last 2 years have been low scoring games, and this one will be the same.

Garland-17
South-14

Man, I hope for Garlands sake we win, cause that game with longview looks to be a fight till the end. Hell, even TJT is looking not too shabby.

[GTown02]

Even that dreadful 3-7 season, the Owls still beat South... good memories... especially that last game against North Garland... Consuelo blocking that punt was one of my favorite plays :D

[GarlandOwl06]

I think/hope we will put it to South. There is no doubt however that they have been improving every week. We definetly cannot underestimate them because they want to beat Garland thats for sure. I loooove this rivalry! What a great game this will be. Don't worry Owl fans, we'll be defending the school tomorrow night!

[owlfan 1]

Don't be so sure that the Owls won't be able to move the ball on the ground. The yards will be tough for sure, but the Owl O Line has gotten stronger week to week and looked good against a very good Carter defense. GHS will mix it up a little, too. On defense, the Owls will match SG's speed with speed of their own. This should be an excellent game, and I look for it to be decided in the 4th quarter. I hope the crowd turns out on a Thursday night.

Roughie, you going? Wanna come "slum" with us Owl fans? :D

[Roughrider]

Don't be so sure that the Owls won't be able to move the ball on the ground. The yards will be tough for sure, but the Owl O Line has gotten stronger week to week and looked good against a very good Carter defense. GHS will mix it up a little, too. On defense, the Owls will match SG's speed with speed of their own. This should be an excellent game, and I look for it to be decided in the 4th quarter. I hope the crowd turns out on a Thursday night.

Roughie, you going? Wanna come "slum" with us Owl fans? :D

I don't look good in "gold or black" or surrounded by it! :D I'll have to pass on that opportunity. Besides, regardless of what most think, I do have to work for a living!

[owlfan 1]

That's a shame. I'm sure a lot of Owl lovers would love to meet you...

I'll be at the Sachse/ RHS game Friday. I hope the 'Stangs can keep it going...

[gtowndrumma]

id have to say that at this point garland wants this one more than south. After two very painfull years i think we are putting everything we've got in this game and then some. This is deff. gonna be an interesting week starting tomorrow w/ protect the school night! man, i cant wait

[garlandredraider]

Hey one of the Garland fans... can you message me so I can give you my cell phone # and you can text message me the scores. I will be in class Thursday night here in Lubbock at Tech. Thanks.

You better protect the school. I was a Bellguard back in the day. Stayed up all wednesday, thursday nights. Then took my SAT on Saturday. Man that sucked. lol.

Gig em Owls, Wreck em Tech

[GTown02]

Hey one of the Garland fans... can you message me so I can give you my cell phone # and you can text message me the scores. I will be in class Thursday night here in Lubbock at Tech. Thanks.

You better protect the school. I was a Bellguard back in the day. Stayed up all wednesday, thursday nights. Then took my SAT on Saturday. Man that sucked. lol.

Gig em Owls, Wreck em Tech
Good planning :P

[grayowl60]

Garland 24
South 14 :D

[GTown02]

Too bad this game is on Thursday... I hope that doesnt effect the crowds...

Should be a good game, and I hope the Owls come out on top! :D

[garlandowl08]

Garland 2008
South 0

nah

more like

Garland 35
South 21

[bhs06]

I've seen a lot of South Garland on tape this week as we watched them play SGP and they looked pretty bad. SGPs defense was giving them the fits. I'm sure they are a better team now though.

[Roughrider]

I've seen a lot of South Garland on tape this week as we watched them play SGP and they looked pretty bad. SGPs defense was giving them the fits. I'm sure they are a better team now though.


What in particular looked to be their problem on offense?

[gtowndrumma]

they hadnt found their qb by that game and couldnt move the ball would be my guess

[travisk44]

they hadnt found their qb by that game and couldnt move the ball would be my guess
You are right. Now we got a qb but he is very young and hasn't played in a big game like this. I think if Garland's D-line (not the linebackers) can put pressure on Florence then Garland will have their way with this young qb. The reason I said not the linebackers is because SG has quite a few draw plays and screens that will kill you if you are blitzing. Again I'll say it, if Garland can pass successfully, they will win. All of SG's linebackers are runstoppers and the secondary is very vulnerable particularly on the long ball over the middle.

[Roughrider]

You are right. Now we got a qb but he is very young and hasn't played in a big game like this. I think if Garland's o-line (not the linebackers) can put pressure on Florence then Garland will have their way with this young qb. The reason I said not the linebackers is because SG has quite a few draw plays and screens that will kill you if you are blitzing. Again I'll say it, if Garland can pass successfully, they will win. All of SG's linebackers are runstoppers and the secondary is very vulnerable particularly on the long ball over the middle.

If Garland's O-Line is putting pressure on SG's QB than I would say the Owls are in bad shape!! :p

[travisk44]

If Garland's O-Line is putting pressure on SG's QB than I would say the Owls are in bad shape!! :p

lol let me fix it. my bad. :rolleyes:

[GarlandOwl06]

The times I've seen South play they seem pretty small on both sides of the ball. However, they are fast and talented especially the skill positions on offense. They have improved every week and as you all know they seem to always play great against Garland. Should be a good game and I hope the streak ends here. WE WILL WIN

[garlandowl08]

Anyone catch the DMN article about Crosby today? Made him look pretty good, I must say.

[GarlandOwl06]

Yea I saw that, I agree, I love having him play DB and receiver more than QB. He was ok but Greg is doing a very good job.

[Black&Gold06]

Im interested to see the rush that Garland can get on South's QB without having to bring backers. I know South lost several people on their line but they seem to have had decent protection so far this year, although the combination of Brandon, Marquis, Devonta, and Chauncey (soph) is probably more than they have faced this year. I think being able to put significant pressure on their QB is even more important than Garland's ability to move the ball...I predict a defensive touchdown for the Owls if they are to win...which they will...so I say Murphy or McDowell intercept a pass and take it to the house.

[GTown02]

Very good article... Crosby was an awesome DB his sophmore year... Im glad he is playing it again :D.

[Roughrider]

Anyone go to the sub-varsity games lastnight? How did that turn out?

[travisk44]

Im interested to see the rush that Garland can get on South's QB without having to bring backers. I know South lost several people on their line but they seem to have had decent protection so far this year, although the combination of Brandon, Marquis, Devonta, and Chauncey (soph) is probably more than they have faced this year. I think being able to put significant pressure on their QB is even more important than Garland's ability to move the ball...I predict a defensive touchdown for the Owls if they are to win...which they will...so I say Murphy or McDowell intercept a pass and take it to the house.

Very nice. I agree that Garland can't bring the backers cause' like I said before that SG has some good screen passes and draw plays that they will run which will go for big yards against the Garland 'd' if they blitz the linebackers. If Garland gets to the So. Florence w/o using their LB's they are in good shape defensively. Offensively for the Owls, I still think they will have to throw the long ball over the middle which has had success against South in earlier games (Plano West, Rowlett, SGP). Garland also has to take advantage of SG's mistakes; fumbles and penalties ect. which SG has made alot of this year. If Garland can get points off of turnovers they will kill the will of SG's offence.

HUNT THE OWLS!! :D

[Roughrider]

Anyone go to the sub-varsity games lastnight? How did that turn out?

ttt

[owlfan 1]

Owl freshman (minus twelve starters who are out) lost 16-6. JV tied 14-14, with the Owls giving up a 14-0 lead in the 4th quarter.

[travisk44]

The Freshman QB for South is Coach Moss' son Austin.

[garlandredraider]

Someone keep me posted on the game. I am out here in RaiderNation (lubbock).

GIG EM OWLS


DOWN WITH DIXIE!!!
POP THE COLONELS!!!

[garlandredraider]

Hey someone in DFW turn on the Radio. I am sure the Garland vs South game is on.

[garlandredraider]

HALFTIME

GARLAND-7
SOUTH GARLAND-0


Garland scored on an interception TD.

[ktchamp97]

HALFTIME

GARLAND-7
SOUTH GARLAND-0


Garland scored on an interception TD.

Can I listen to this on the net?

[garlandredraider]

I wish i knew where to... i have a friends little brother who is calling us. Kind of sucks.

[garlandredraider]

Garland-7, South-7

In the 3rd.

[garlandredraider]

garland Wins!!!! 21-14

[GarlandOwl06]

Good win for us! Overcame some more than questionable calls. South is pretty good but we put it to them! GO GARLAND!!!!!

p.s. I want Donta back :(

[owlbandad]

HALFTIME

GARLAND-7
SOUTH GARLAND-0


Garland scored on an interception TD.

with 11:47 remaining in the first quarter! I would say there were more than twice as many fumbles as usual. Obviously nobody has had a chance to adjust
to the change in the weather.

Voss Williams is amazing. He looks like somebody's little brother (5'4") but South had almost as much trouble with him as Naaman.

regards,

owlbandad

[gtowndrumma]

i must say both teams did not play up to their potential and there were many questionable calls.................. but all that matters is that Garland won! haha, but on a more serious note, Voss did very well. It would have been nice to have Donte back, but it looks like we will be ok for another week without him.

[StormingCowboy]

It's early but it looks like the Owls just sent an invitation to do battle again with the Cowboys in Round 2.

[Black&Gold06]

I would have to agree with you Storming... I dont know how good John Tyler is, but im pleased with Garland's diversification of their offense in recent weeks. The TE has really become involved and we even used a halfback pass. If we do play again I hope that the game is just as good as before...except maybe with a different result. Would this game be at Texas Stadium most likely?

[StormingCowboy]

If the game does happen, I hope it's not at Texas Stadium!!

Since you hosted last time, we can host it this time at the "Storm House" (Kincaid).

[travisk44]

I'll admit it, I was wrong when I said Garland had to pass the ball to win. They did just fine on the ground. Those sweeps to the right with 3# killed us cause our LB's wouldn't stay at home so that left our DB's to take him down. You've got to admit, our So. QB handled him self pretty well that entire game, especially on that last drive. It was worth losing my voice, painting my face, getting there a half an hour early and going nut the entire game. Good game Garland. I just wish we wouldn't have fumbled. By the way does anyone have a box score? I'd like to see it.

[owlfan 1]

Great, intense game. Lots of mistakes on both sides. Questionable officiating throughout, especially from the side judge on the SG side (can YOU say FLAG HAPPY?). I thought the GHS defense played very well, slowing down the Colonels for most of the game (did SG ever run the ball besides a few QB sneaks?). Garland answered SG each time they scored, and they held on to win. This game is very similar to the last two between these teams, only with a different outcome. Great win for the Owls!

I think SG fans can take a lot from this game. They have a sophmore QB who played with poise and showed good leadership, and he'll only get better. They played a lot of underclassmen who will be heard from over the next two years. The Colonels still can make noise in the district race, and I believe they'll be even tougher next year.

Garland can feel very good about the win. They overcame a ton of mistakes against a very good SG team and won a huge game. Who would of thought that Voss Williams would be the difference maker? Garland threw the ball just enough - and they FINALLY are utilizing the tight end (Owl tight ends have been open for the past 15 years, but never get thrown to). Dante Sloan will be back in two weeks, and this offense is going to be scary. The defense already is. On to North Garland!

[GTown80]

You're right about the flag-happy side judge. I couldn't believe some of the flags he was throwing. On one play, he was standing between South's bench and the hash marks and throws a flag for something going on close to the Garland bench. He can't see that well enough to make the call. It was absolutely ridiculous. I really like seeing the tight ends get some play. That one we've got looks big and seems to have some nice hands. But I'm like you owlfan1, where's that play-calling been for the last 20 years. I hope to see more of that in the coming weeks. Congrats to the Owls on the win! As a 1980 grad, it's always nice to beat the Colonels and we were due this year.

[Roughrider]

Great, intense game. Lots of mistakes on both sides. Questionable officiating throughout, especially from the side judge on the SG side (can YOU say FLAG HAPPY?). I thought the GHS defense played very well, slowing down the Colonels for most of the game (did SG ever run the ball besides a few QB sneaks?). Garland answered SG each time they scored, and they held on to win. This game is very similar to the last two between these teams, only with a different outcome. Great win for the Owls!

I think SG fans can take a lot from this game. They have a sophmore QB who played with poise and showed good leadership, and he'll only get better. They played a lot of underclassmen who will be heard from over the next two years. The Colonels still can make noise in the district race, and I believe they'll be even tougher next year.

Garland can feel very good about the win. They overcame a ton of mistakes against a very good SG team and won a huge game. Who would of thought that Voss Williams would be the difference maker? Garland threw the ball just enough - and they FINALLY are utilizing the tight end (Owl tight ends have been open for the past 15 years, but never get thrown to). Dante Sloan will be back in two weeks, and this offense is going to be scary. The defense already is. On to North Garland!

I did make it to the game. My observations are as such:
1. Flags were flying from both sides ( one personal foul ) at a crucial time for SG. If that last personal foul isn't called, SG has the ball on the 35 1st and 10 going in. Also thought a couple of the turnovers against SG the ball carrier was down? We all know that with GHS you could call holding on the corner everytime the ball is snapped. There blocking scheme seems to require tackling the DE playside.
2. The size differential was unbelievable, GHS had a size advantage over SG at dang near every position. So to squeak out a win vs an opponent that had a Soph pulling the trigger and an extremely undersized line. Well, I would think you would be somewhat concerned? Anyway, I guess time will tell!

Roll on s'Tangs

[grayowl60]

Garland 24
South 14 :D
Garland missed a FG that looked very close.
Final Garland 21, South 14 :rolleyes:

[GarlandOwl06]

I did make it to the game. My observations are as such:
1. Flags were flying from both sides ( one personal foul ) at a crucial time for SG. If that last personal foul isn't called, SG has the ball on the 35 1st and 10 going in. Also thought a couple of the turnovers against SG the ball carrier was down? We all know that with GHS you could call holding on the corner everytime the ball is snapped. There blocking scheme seems to require tackling the DE playside.
2. The size differential was unbelievable, GHS had a size advantage over SG at dang near every position. So to squeak out a win vs an opponent that had a Soph pulling the trigger and an extremely undersized line. Well, I would think you would be somewhat concerned? Anyway, I guess time will tell!

Roll on s'Tangs

I am soooo sick of Sachse fans talking trash about their 5-0 team considering they have literally played 0 good football teams. Roughrider, I really hope you get on tonight after the whooping Rowlett puts on you guys. Then you wont be able to talk anymore. And no, we're not concerned about our football team. You should probably be a little concerned though about Josh Phillips tonight being tackled by Jared Norton every play. Good luck.

[owldog]

Questionable Calls yes but EVERY TIME these 2 teams meet the refs say they will CONTROL the ball game and will work hard to let it not get out of hand. Several of those UNSPORTSMAN like flags were for the MOUTH. So we up in the stands have no idea what the players were saying and I understand if it is foul language/threats they can and did last night slap the 25 yards on. Again trying to control 2 very excitable teams. Does anybody know the total yards charged to penalties for both teams.

Different Subject but kind of the same. I hope the Owl Football team is not getting to cocky, we have not locked up district. I say this because when you have so many people trying to park in a lot that is not big enough for the stadiums how come the players can park their vehicles criss cross and taking up 3 to 4 spaces for each one vehicle. I see it week after week and wonder how do they get away with this? They might think not a big deal but they love their fans you would think they would try to leave some spaces for them to park. UGH I know I sound like a complainer but when you have to park blocks away and miss some of the game and see that the players have taken 12 spots with 4 cars ugh. You know it is players because they park that way every day for practice but they need to change it on game day.

[g-town07]

Different Subject but kind of the same. I hope the Owl Football team is not getting to y, we have not locked up district. I say this because when you have so many people trying to park in a lot that is not big enough for the stadiums how come the players can park their vehicles criss cross and taking up 3 to 4 spaces for each one vehicle. I see it week after week and wonder how do they get away with this? They might think not a big deal but they love their fans you would think they would try to leave some spaces for them to park. UGH I know I sound like a complainer but when you have to park blocks away and miss some of the game and see that the players have taken 12 spots with 4 cars ugh. You know it is players because they park that way every day for practice but they need to change it on game day.

lol its prob because theyre running late, ive heard that if they arent there by a certain time than coach wont let them in the lockerroom haha

and on roughs size difference comment, look at garlands o-line compared to sg's d-line, at least on the quick side of the ball, we have a 170 guard and a 200 tackle up against a 260 lb somethin end/230 lb nose??

idk the calls were crap tho

[garlandowl08]

Not to back talk at all, as I'm not on the team, but I'm sure the parking thing arises everywhere in Texas...i mean, we put a vrey high value on our friday night football, so the players don't know better (to an extent)

"Im the one holding the dante needs a tutor sign"

that was a text message I got from a friend at south...the only thing i have to say in reply is "21-14, nothing else matters"

[garlandowl08]

Is there anyone on this board that doesn't go to GHS, but sits in the far right of the student section during every game at Williams...there's a guy who does and I was just thinking it'd be a fun and cool coincidence

[gtowndrumma]

i think i know who you are talking about.... his name is drew and he hangs out with us a lot. he even sat with us last night at the game.

[garlandowl08]

no
we call this guy "crazy old guy" (not meant to be offensive)
he sits on the far right and rattles the fence
and he has a tape recorder, i just dont know what he records...

[GarlandOwl06]

I know exactly what youre talking about and yes hes a little creepy.

[Roughrider]

no
we call this guy "crazy old guy" (not meant to be offensive)
he sits on the far right and rattles the fence
and he has a tape recorder, i just dont know what he records...


I'm sure he is a graduate of GHS! ;)

And for the "quick" side of the O-line. That is by choice, hence the wing-t... Plenty of beef on the sideline but that wouldn't work as well for the wing trap and various other counter plays. The "strong" side boasts about 600+ pounds just with Brumitt and Kennedy... Don't even try to talk about being undersized...
As for tonight, held our own against a pretty good team, moved the ball well, need to work on redzone plays..

[GarlandOwl06]

yea held your own 24-6..... Im gonna go ahead and tell sachse that the little qb draw up the middle aint workin against garland with big number 47 there.

Sachse did move teh ball through the air against a weak secondary but they didnt run the ball at all. Rowlett still did not overly impress me. There defense is a little soft until the started blitzing when sachse was about to score in the fourth. I hope that rb for sachse is ok because that was a nasty injury.

[owlfan 1]

I thought Sachse played pretty well. They looked like a team that had never been in a big game before. QB Phillips looked rattled, especially in the late stages of the game. Over 300 yards on the ground to Pierce. Yikes.

Still, their program appears to be on the rise - I hope Garland doesn't take them lightly or we could be in for long night...

[GoOwls]

Garland and Rowlett will play for the district championship and Sachse and South will play for the final playoff spot. I've seen all four teams at least once (Sachse) and the others,South/Rowlett, twice, Garland 4 times.

Sachse got their b-slap tonight. I congratulate them on being such a good team in a short period of time, but they were outmatched tonight. Sachse WILL indeed lose to Garland beause they have a lack of speed and will be outsized. They have skilled players, but Garlands' speed will shut that spread mess they run down.

Rowlett is a nice squad and will give Garland problems, but Garland should win.

South will take Sachse and win the 3rd spot. South has too much speed and skill and size for Sachse.

[GoOwls]

That was the least knowledgable officiating staff I've ever seen. They would call offsides, illegal motion, and vice versa. Twice on Garland kickoffs the owls were offsides and the side judge and referee called it illegal motion, for example. Once they called what was a false start on a Garland O-lineman, illegal motion and offered South the option to take the penalty, South took the play, a 10 yard pass for a first down, convenient. Twice, on an option pitch, the Garland trailing back clobbered the South QB after the pitch, and was called for personal fouls. The QB is fair game on a lateral pitch and can indeed be clobbered.

It's a shame that incompitent referees had to mar a game like that and, in effect, take over the game. Yes, I admit Garland's kids deserved some of the personal fouls, but that doesn't make up for the missed and improper calls by an incompitent group of refs that didn't even know their terminology and rules. :mad:

[Roughrider]

That was the least knowledgable officiating staff I've ever seen. They would call offsides, illegal motion, and vice versa. Twice on Garland kickoffs the owls were offsides and the side judge and referee called it illegal motion, for example. Once they called what was a false start on a Garland O-lineman, illegal motion and offered South the option to take the penalty, South took the play, a 10 yard pass for a first down, convenient. Twice, on an option pitch, the Garland trailing back clobbered the South QB after the pitch, and was called for personal fouls. The QB is fair game on a lateral pitch and can indeed be clobbered.

It's a shame that incompitent referees had to mar a game like that and, in effect, take over the game. Yes, I admit Garland's kids deserved some of the personal fouls, but that doesn't make up for the missed and improper calls by an incompitent group of refs that didn't even know their terminology and rules. :mad:


You are correct on "some" of your "opinion"...... Like what's with the last call of the night that took SG from Garland's 35 yard line to the 50??? Unsportsmanlike on SG kid because GHS kid tried to grab ball from him, kid yanks away and flag flys??? So don't take the normal Owl approach and try to find excuses... You had better look for answers elsewhere...
Yes, you should motor right through district.... But like I said, you look at the teams that you oversized that should have beaten you..... Ennis,SG???
Then look at the teams that you matched up with speed and size...... Carter, DeSoto... How did those turn out???? Stand back outside of the box and be objective, may be another one and done????? :confused:

[GoOwls]

Look Rough, I didn't do any cheerleading. My team will be 1 and out unless they grow up and the coach takes control of his team. They are as immature as they are talented. I believe that for the last two seasons, I and a few other Garland fans have trumpeted how this team wont' go anywhere until they mature....a bunch.

As for that late unsportsmanlike call against South, I assume you were on the South side and couldn't see what happenend on our side of the pile. There was a scrum for the ball, even though the play was dead back up the field. As they were unpiling and the refs were pulling kids up, the South kid on the bottom of the pile had the ball, as the Garland kid on top of him was being helped up by the ref., the South kid pushed the Garland kid and knocked the kid down and almost knocked the ref down, while the ref was assisting him up. The kid lost his composure, just like the Garland kids did, and he got rightfully penalized, just like the Garland kids, it just hurt his team more as the timing was horrible.

I mean, Rough, you're not really breaking any new ground, at least not with me and owlfan1, when you criticize our penalties and maturity. We're pretty realistic and know it's the real weakness of this team. Until the coach takes control of this team, we won't go far.

The South palyers were much more professional than ours, in general, and the mark of a coach who has control of his team.

BTW, Rough, my post was to criticize the refs. professionalism, in general, not to whine about bad calls against us........that's a different thread altogether. :D

[Black&Gold06]

I think that Garland/SG game was just called poorly overall. If you just disregard the penalties for both sides (and the fumbles for some of you who think SG would have won w/o their fumbles...we had 2 lost as well) Garland still was the better team. Nobody here has even mentioned that we did not have Sloan (yes, we know he failed), but we used our other backs effectively in beating South.

Rough - Sachse is a great program for its second year, but they still have some progress to make before they are a true contender. Do teams have to take them seriously this year? Definitely. But I still think South will earn the playoff spot.
Also - why do you always talk about size? Size is important but does not mean everything...it is a combination of size, speed, knowledge, and a knack for football. Buddy is not even that great a blocker, and you saw Voss Williams tear up South's D...and he is 5'4". Carter is a good team, probably better than Garland...Desoto just plays us tough and we had 9 fumbles. Stop worrying about how badly we should beat teams (who are very good) and worry about Sachse winning some district games against quality opponents.


Also - I definitely predicted the TD by a Garland DB in the South game.

[Roughrider]

I think that Garland/SG game was just called poorly overall. If you just disregard the penalties for both sides (and the fumbles for some of you who think SG would have won w/o their fumbles...we had 2 lost as well) Garland still was the better team. Nobody here has even mentioned that we did not have Sloan (yes, we know he failed), but we used our other backs effectively in beating South.

Rough - Sachse is a great program for its second year, but they still have some progress to make before they are a true contender. Do teams have to take them seriously this year? Definitely. But I still think South will earn the playoff spot.
Also - why do you always talk about size? Size is important but does not mean everything...it is a combination of size, speed, knowledge, and a knack for football. Buddy is not even that great a blocker, and you saw Voss Williams tear up South's D...and he is 5'4". Carter is a good team, probably better than Garland...Desoto just plays us tough and we had 9 fumbles. Stop worrying about how badly we should beat teams (who are very good) and worry about Sachse winning some district games against quality opponents.


Also - I definitely predicted the TD by a Garland DB in the South game.

I talk about size because it is there... Garland has a talented defense that is built around speed and size (up front).. It just doesn't make sense that they would barely defeat teams that they overmatch in most positions?? Size doesn't necessarily matter in "some" skill positions but it dang sure does come in handy when playing in the trenches.

[Roughrider]

I think that Garland/SG game was just called poorly overall. If you just disregard the penalties for both sides (and the fumbles for some of you who think SG would have won w/o their fumbles...we had 2 lost as well) Garland still was the better team. Nobody here has even mentioned that we did not have Sloan (yes, we know he failed), but we used our other backs effectively in beating South.

Rough - Sachse is a great program for its second year, but they still have some progress to make before they are a true contender. Do teams have to take them seriously this year? Definitely. But I still think South will earn the playoff spot.
Also - why do you always talk about size? Size is important but does not mean everything...it is a combination of size, speed, knowledge, and a knack for football. Buddy is not even that great a blocker, and you saw Voss Williams tear up South's D...and he is 5'4". Carter is a good team, probably better than Garland...Desoto just plays us tough and we had 9 fumbles. Stop worrying about how badly we should beat teams (who are very good) and worry about Sachse winning some district games against quality opponents.


Also - I definitely predicted the TD by a Garland DB in the South game.

Yes Sloan is out..... And SG has a soph QB that is playing in his 3rd game running an offense that requires a "little" more than turn and hand it to the running back or boot out and throw it to the TE dragging across the middle... I would imagine in their offense he is required to read coverages as well as blitz adjustments...
Oh, I see, only Owl fans can comment about other teams and bless us with their opinions???? Typical Owl fan, can dish it but can't take it!!

[GarlandOwl06]

Yes Sloan is out..... And SG has a soph QB that is playing in his 3rd game running an offense that requires a "little" more than turn and hand it to the running back or boot out and throw it to the TE dragging across the middle... I would imagine in their offense he is required to read coverages as well as blitz adjustments...
Oh, I see, only Owl fans can comment about other teams and bless us with their opinions???? Typical Owl fan, can dish it but can't take it!!

We'll take anything you have to say as long as it isnt rediculous trash talk about Sachse or completly bashing Garland. We know we're not perfect but we're not as bad as you constantly make us out to be.

[owlfan 1]

Roughrider hates Garland. There is no disputing that fact. He respects their abilities as a football team, but he will give neither them nor the Garland fans any credit. He makes inflamatory comments about Garland to anger and frustrate Garland fans, then taunts and mocks them when they attempt to defend their team and dispute him. He then sits back and laughs at us for taking the bait. You will never get Roughrider to concede a point, admit that there is anything positive about GHS, its football team, or its fans, or show Garland fans any mutual respect. He is what is referred to on other message boards as a "troll" - defined as one who only posts to imflame passions and stir up disputes or controversy. He has no desire to enter into legitimate conversation about Owl football, Mustang football, or anything else. He simply wants to engage in battle with Owl fans, be disrespectful toward them and their team, and write mocking diatribes about GHS. Other than that, Roughie is a great guy...

Garland is not, at this point, a state title contender. They are a very good football team which has a chance to get better and, perhaps by the time the playoffs roll around, make a nice run. They are not well disciplined; and by that I mean that they do not resemble the 1958 Baltimore Colts in their demeanor. They play with a "ghetto" attitude; they taunt and celebrate and dance around. They talk a lot of trash. They make dumb mistakes. As a fan, yes, this frustrates me. I wish they would be a little more controlled and "classy".

However, I will always support them. They are my team. As a group, they are not thugs - they are pretty good kids who are having the times of their lives playing a high level of hs football. They have provided me and other Owl fans with years of thrills, excitment and joy, as well as our share of disapointments, frustrations and let downs. I refuse to apologize to anyone for being an Owl fan, for supporting those kids and coaches, and for living and dying with that program. Take your shots, all you Owl haters. At the end of the day, win or lose, I will always support, cheer for, love and defend my team. If that makes me a blind fool, so be it. I can live with that.

GO OWLS!!!!

[Roughrider]

Roughrider hates Garland. There is no disputing that fact. He respects their abilities as a football team, but he will give neither them nor the Garland fans any credit. He makes inflamatory comments about Garland to anger and frustrate Garland fans, then taunts and mocks them when they attempt to defend their team and dispute him. He then sits back and laughs at us for taking the bait. You will never get Roughrider to concede a point, admit that there is anything positive about GHS, its football team, or its fans, or show Garland fans any mutual respect. He is what is referred to on other message boards as a "troll" - defined as one who only posts to imflame passions and stir up disputes or controversy. He has no desire to enter into legitimate conversation about Owl football, Mustang football, or anything else. He simply wants to engage in battle with Owl fans, be disrespectful toward them and their team, and write mocking diatribes about GHS. Other than that, Roughie is a great guy...

Garland is not, at this point, a state title contender. They are a very good football team which has a chance to get better and, perhaps by the time the playoffs roll around, make a nice run. They are not well disciplined; and by that I mean that they do not resemble the 1958 Baltimore Colts in their demeanor. They play with a "ghetto" attitude; they taunt and celebrate and dance around. They talk a lot of trash. They make dumb mistakes. As a fan, yes, this frustrates me. I wish they would be a little more controlled and "classy".

However, I will always support them. They are my team. As a group, they are not thugs - they are pretty good kids who are having the times of their lives playing a high level of hs football. They have provided me and other Owl fans with years of thrills, excitment and joy, as well as our share of disapointments, frustrations and let downs. I refuse to apologize to anyone for being an Owl fan, for supporting those kids and coaches, and for living and dying with that program. Take your shots, all you Owl haters. At the end of the day, win or lose, I will always support, cheer for, love and defend my team. If that makes me a blind fool, so be it. I can live with that.

GO OWLS!!!!

O1,

You've crossed the line... Calling me a "troll"! And in front of everyone?? :D
Now, did I not say in a few of my latest post that GHS is a talented team?? There is no disputing that... Go back and read all the post and you will see what drives me crazy... The Owls win against SG and still the " oh, the officials were horrible, what game were they calling?? Man, we would have beaten that team worse if the officials had made any good calls???
Am I wrong??? No, I don't think so...

[GarlandOwl06]

theres no arguing that the officials were terrible calling a penalty for illegal motion when it should have been a false start and stuff like that. 9 penalties for 110 yards vs. 4 penalties for 37 yards is a bit lopsided especially when at least one of those 15 yard penalties came on a roughing the passer call on an option play

[Roughrider]

theres no arguing that the officials were terrible calling a penalty for illegal motion when it should have been a false start and stuff like that. 9 penalties for 110 yards vs. 4 penalties for 37 yards is a bit lopsided especially when at least one of those 15 yard penalties came on a roughing the passer call on an option play


If you don't want the penalty called don't commit it.... See, the thing that I question is this.. Where was the game played? GHS Williams Stadium, Owls are home team.. So, I assume that the Owls head coach had something to do with the Officiating crews assignment.. Sounds like you don't have much to stand on when it's your crew calling the game.. Coaches have the opportunity to decline a crew when the assignments are being issued...
Seems like we also got to hear about how bad the officials were at Ennis also... hmmm I believe I see a pattern? :D

[GarlandOwl06]

If you don't want the penalty called don't commit it.... See, the thing that I question is this.. Where was the game played? GHS Williams Stadium, Owls are home team.. So, I assume that the Owls head coach had something to do with the Officiating crews assignment.. Sounds like you don't have much to stand on when it's your crew calling the game.. Coaches have the opportunity to decline a crew when the assignments are being issued...
Seems like we also got to hear about how bad the officials were at Ennis also... hmmm I believe I see a pattern? :D

I dont remember saying anything about the Ennis game? Correct me if I'm wrong. And besides, we have played 6 games so I dont think 1 out of 6 is a pattern...maybe it is tho?

[owlfan 1]

O1,

You've crossed the line... Calling me a "troll"! And in front of everyone?? :D
Now, did I not say in a few of my latest post that GHS is a talented team?? There is no disputing that... Go back and read all the post and you will see what drives me crazy... The Owls win against SG and still the " oh, the officials were horrible, what game were they calling?? Man, we would have beaten that team worse if the officials had made any good calls???
Am I wrong??? No, I don't think so...

As I said, you believe that GHS is a good football team, but that is where it ends. Am I wrong?

The officiating was not good in that game in my opinion. You appear to have a different opinion. I respect that. However, you do not seem to respect the fact that I differ with you. Instead, you choose to resort to being inflamatory - rather than talk about the game, its aftermath, etc, you just want to pick a fight with Garland fans. You accuse Owl fans of having tunnel vision, but no one on this site has a narrower view than you do when it comes to GHS.

I think it would be fun to actually discuss football with you, but I'll probably never know because you can't resist taking cheap shots and "trolling". Am I wrong?

[Roughrider]

As I said, you believe that GHS is a good football team, but that is where it ends. Am I wrong?

The officiating was not good in that game in my opinion. You appear to have a different opinion. I respect that. However, you do not seem to respect the fact that I differ with you. Instead, you choose to resort to being inflamatory - rather than talk about the game, its aftermath, etc, you just want to pick a fight with Garland fans. You accuse Owl fans of having tunnel vision, but no one on this site has a narrower view than you do when it comes to GHS.

I think it would be fun to actually discuss football with you, but I'll probably never know because you can't resist taking cheap shots and "trolling". Am I wrong?

Owlfan1,
Why are you frustrated? Are we not exchanging differing opinions about various subjects concerning football in GISD... I know you would find it satisfying to know that all agree with you and your opinion, but, I don't.. While I respect the fact that Garland is what it is..... and that is a good athletic team. I do not share your love for them nor do I share the same opinion of each and every game as you and other fans seem to look at it through owl colored glasses.. I will admit that you do tell it like it is and often call out the team when they do some bonehead thing.
Alright, enough of that.... Don't expect us to start having lunch together now! :D

[owlfan 1]

Owlfan1,

Alright, enough of that.... Don't expect us to start having lunch together now! :D

Peace...

[GarlandOwl06]

As I said, you believe that GHS is a good football team, but that is where it ends. Am I wrong?

The officiating was not good in that game in my opinion. You appear to have a different opinion. I respect that. However, you do not seem to respect the fact that I differ with you. Instead, you choose to resort to being inflamatory - rather than talk about the game, its aftermath, etc, you just want to pick a fight with Garland fans. You accuse Owl fans of having tunnel vision, but no one on this site has a narrower view than you do when it comes to GHS.

I think it would be fun to actually discuss football with you, but I'll probably never know because you can't resist taking cheap shots and "trolling". Am I wrong?

I'm glad that Owlfan and you other Garland fans get on here and defend the Owls because everyone thinks I dont know what Im talking about because I'm just a stupid immature kid but when it comes to Garland football I know what Im talking about for the most part and as Owlfan said we do not have tunnel vision nor do we pretend every year that we will win state, we know whats going on! Garland fans know about football too.