Midland Lee vs. Clovis East, CA

[jtk1519]

You can listen to a broadcast of the game here...

http://www.1550snr.com/

The game is in Midland, but that station is a California station.

[Texasfrog]

Midland Lee = 7 Clovis East= 0

Trent Hines had about 20 yds on 3 car. and scored on about a 6 td run.

[Texasfrog]

Midland Lee kicked a 37 fg to make the score 10-0 with about 2 minutes left in the 1st qt.

[jtk1519]

East just scored on an 80 yard TD run.

Lee 10 - East 7

[Shoot2thrill]

80 yard TD run for Clovis..

10-7 Midland Lee

LOL...Got me jtk...

[jtk1519]

10-10

[jtk1519]

East has gone up 17-10.

It is so old school listening to this game. East runs the double wing and it is 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Unreal.

[Texasfrog]

Clovis East = 17
Midland Lee=10

2 minutes left in the half. Lee getting the ball.

[steeler 01]

East has gone up 17-10.

It is so old school listening to this game. East runs the double wing and it is 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Unreal.
that's what makes it so frustrating about playing ce.their offense is boring but effective.frustrates defenses by getting ce into 4th down and them converting every one.

[jtk1519]

that's what makes it so frustrating about playing ce.their offense is boring but effective.frustrates defenses by getting ce into 4th down and them converting every one.

I think East has only punted once this game, but they have had several 4th downs. They keep giving the ball to the same kid every time, but Lee just cant stop them.

Halftime

East 17 - Lee 10

[steeler 01]

I think East has only punted once this game, but they have had several 4th downs. They keep giving the ball to the same kid every time, but Lee just cant stop them.

Halftime

East 17 - Lee 10
ce runs the don markham double wing offense.the offense is meant to get more ppl on 1 side of the ball then the defense has.

[RockinL]

What is Lees record so far this year?

[supercentex]

CE offensive line averages 160........and they are doing very well.

[jtk1519]

What is Lees record so far this year?

Going into this game they were 1-3.

Loss to SLC 48-25
Loss to Euless Trinity 63-34
Loss to Dallas Kimball 20-14
Win over PA Memorial 32-7

[steeler 01]

CE offensive line averages 160........and they are doing very well.
that's because their offense is designed for double teams.mobile lineman is what's needed in that o.te cut block and double team with the wingbacks.

[steeler 01]

that's because their offense is designed for double teams.mobile lineman is what's needed in that o.te cut block and double team with the wingbacks.
has the 2nd half started?

[odessapermian.com]

2nd half coming up.

[steeler 01]

2nd half coming up.
this is a long halftime.

[supercentex]

It's homecoming man........it would be even longer if the band from Clovis was there.

[Shoot2thrill]

17-17 In The Middle Of The Third Quarter.

[supercentex]

24-17 Midland Lee 3rd

[steeler 01]

24-17 Midland Lee 3rd
is lee passing the ball?

[Texasfrog]

17-17 In The Middle Of The Third Quarter.

How did Lee score ? My PC is freaking out on me and now I cant get the game.. :(

[Shoot2thrill]

Mainly feeding it to Hines. Some passes.

[supercentex]

Yeah mine is messing up too....it's a mix of pass and run..mostly runs tho

[Texasfrog]

Mainly feeding it to Hines. Some passes.

Lee needs to play some "D" and stop those Clovis kids from getting 4 and 5 yds a pop like in the 1st half.

[Shoot2thrill]

How did Lee score ? My PC is freaking out on me and now I cant get the game.. :(

Running right at them with Hines.

[Shoot2thrill]

24-17 Lee still . End of third. :)

[steeler 01]

Running right at them with Hines.
who has the ball and where?

[supercentex]

Clovis had the ball on 3rd down....Clovis East passed....imcomplete....crowd got really loud

It's around the 30 something.....11:10 to go......

Sorry it was 4th down...Midland Lee is on the 49......first play was pass for 9

[supercentex]

Lee to the 44......1st down

[supercentex]

Gain of 10 on a pass.......down to the 35.....1st down

[supercentex]

First play..gain of 6....by Hines


2nd and 4

[supercentex]

4th down for Lee on the 25.....

[supercentex]

4th and 5........timeout ML

[supercentex]

Lee going for it.......

complete.....bad spot........

turnover on downs

[steeler 01]

Lee going for it.......

complete.....bad spot........

turnover on downs
how much time left?

[supercentex]

Sorry it's 3rd quarter I believe....

[steeler 01]

how much time left?
sounds like it might be the team with the ball last will win.

[Shoot2thrill]

9:00 In The Fourth

[supercentex]

I hate when people go posting links to the games online for everyone to see.........it's crashing because too many people are on it! Bonehead

[supercentex]

Clovis just got a 66 yard run by Pancotti?

TD

24---24

[Shoot2thrill]

Pancotti must be a beast. That is his second long run from scrimmage. :eek:

[steeler 01]

Clovis just got a 66 yard run by Pancotti?

TD

24---24
is he the fullback?

[Shoot2thrill]

is he the fullback?

Either that or backup RB.

[steeler 01]

Either that or backup RB.
theirs 2 wingbacks could be the other wingback.

[supercentex]

Lee is driving....under 4 minutes to go........they just entered Clovis side of field

[supercentex]

down to the 40..............this is a great game.

[supercentex]

1:27.........from the 45...........big play......Hines 45 yard run for a TD

[supercentex]

1:07 left....said Hines looked to only gain 2..but juked and ran all the way into the end zone

[steeler 01]

1:07 left....said Hines looked to only gain 2..but juked and ran all the way into the end zone
that could be the game.

[Texasfrog]

update ....

[supercentex]

Clovis got a TD......18 yard run......13 seconds left


Tied ball game

[Shoot2thrill]

Clovis got a TD......18 yard run......27 seconds left


Tied ball game

And it wasn't Pancotti but Slocum.

[pack0808]

nice defense?? :rolleyes:

[steeler 01]

Clovis got a TD......18 yard run......13 seconds left


Tied ball game
they should go for 2 and try to end the game now.

[supercentex]

Overtime

[supercentex]

Lee holds Clovis......they missed FG

[steeler 01]

Lee holds Clovis......they missed FG
that's game.

[supercentex]

Midland Lee FG blocked..........

[steeler 01]

Midland Lee FG blocked..........
wow.

[supercentex]

2OT's

[Shoot2thrill]

that's game.

That's twice you have written those boys off. They came to win. What a game. :cool:

[steeler 01]

2OT's
game doesn't want to end.

[steeler 01]

That's twice you have written those boys off. They came to win. What a game. :cool:
maybe their destined to win the game.

[supercentex]

Lee inside the 10....

[supercentex]

Lee down to the 1.

[supercentex]

Lee TD

Lee 38 CE 31


CE BALL

[supercentex]

PAT is blocked...change to 37-31

CE BALL

[supercentex]

Crowd is going nuts........REBELS...REBELS

[steeler 01]

PAT is blocked...change to 37-31

CE BALL
i hope they dont lose because of that.

[supercentex]

CE on the 13.......

[steeler 01]

i hope they dont lose because of that.
that would be a bad way to end a great game.

[supercentex]

flag on motion for CE......

back to the 18...........

[RockinL]

WHat is CE's record?

[supercentex]

CE down to the 3........pascotti

[steeler 01]

WHat is CE's record?
their 3-0 but have played weak teams and have squeaked by.played a team from alaska and some sorry team from bakersfield.

[supercentex]

Midland Lee 37 Clovis East 38 FINAL 2 OT's

[steeler 01]

their 3-0 but have played weak teams and have squeaked by.played a team from alaska and some sorry team from bakersfield.
they haven't won any game by more than 10 points.

[Shoot2thrill]

maybe their destined to win the game.

I guess they were destined. What a ball game. :cool:

[rebelraider]

their 3-0 but have played weak teams and have squeaked by.played a team from alaska and some sorry team from bakersfield.


The Clovis East team is ranked No. 8 in the West Region by USA Today. They're no slouch, but Lee still should have won.

West
1. Mission Viejo, Calif. (4-0)
2. Bellevue, Wash. (3-0)
3. Clovis West, Fresno (3-0)
4. Poly, Long Beach (2-1)
5. Hamilton, Chandler, Ariz. (4-0)
6. Notre Dame, Sherman Oaks, Calif. (3-0)
7. Cherry Creek, Englewood, Colo. (4-0)
8. Clovis (Calif.) East (3-0)
9. Oaks Christian, Westlake Village, Calif. (3-0)
10. Sprague, Salem, Ore. (4-0)

[Texasfrog]

The Clovis East team is ranked No. 8 in the West Region by USA Today. They're no slouch, but Lee still should have won.

West
1. Mission Viejo, Calif. (4-0)
2. Bellevue, Wash. (3-0)
3. Clovis West, Fresno (3-0)
4. Poly, Long Beach (2-1)
5. Hamilton, Chandler, Ariz. (4-0)
6. Notre Dame, Sherman Oaks, Calif. (3-0)
7. Cherry Creek, Englewood, Colo. (4-0)
8. Clovis (Calif.) East (3-0)
9. Oaks Christian, Westlake Village, Calif. (3-0)
10. Sprague, Salem, Ore. (4-0)


This game does nothing but PROVE what I've been saying for about 5 months now. That TEXAS has the best High school football in the country hands down and also has the best High school team "DEPTH" in the country hands down.

Clovis East is one of California top #6 teams "if not higher" and they went to 2 OT with Midland Lee team that probably isnt a Texas top #25 this season.

I'll give Clovis East some credit.. They came to Texas and it was also Midland Lee's "homecoming game." But, the game going to 2 OT proves enough to me.

Tyler Lee going to Ohio and playing Colerain (probably Ohio's #1 team) and playing them fairly tight and only losing by 15 in Ohio. Not bad considering that Tyler Lee probably isnt a top Texas #25 either this season.

Hollywood Chaminade, Fl is one of Florida Top #7 teams and they basically tied Tyler Lee, Tx.

I know some people will argue this.. But, the Legit Texas Top #15 at the end of the season dont take a back seat to anyone.

They may not win all the games against other States top #3 or so teams. But, Texas would have a great winning percentage and without a doubt be the #1 High school football State.

The proof is in the results.. All the results when you look at the Teams, records, results and ect.. indicate that Texas is #1..

[rebelraider]

Frog, I couldn't agree more.

As I watched the game tonight, I thought to myself, if this is one of California's top 5 teams, California is in trouble. I think any one of Texas's top 10 or 20 teams would wipe this team off the map, had they played them tonight.

Lee had every opportunity to win tonights game, but could close the door. I could only imagine what a Euless Trinity, SLC, Lufkin, Longview or Katy would have done to them. I only wish Lee could have played them last year. At least last years Lee team had a little more fight in them. Oh well.......

RR

[Texasfrog]

Frog, I couldn't agree more.

As I watched the game tonight, I thought to myself, if this is one of California's top 5 teams, California is in trouble. I think any one of Texas's top 10 or 20 teams would wipe this team off the map, had they played them tonight.

Lee had every opportunity to win tonights game, but could close the door. I could only imagine what a Euless Trinity, SLC, Lufkin, Longview or Katy would have done to them. I only wish Lee could have played them last year. At least last years Lee team had a little more fight in them. Oh well.......

RR

Ya... I hate to do the "last year thing" but without a doubt last years Midland Lee team would of easily beaten this Clovis East team. The offense was better with McCoy at QB and the O-line was better. The Midland Lee defense was also better at the LB and DB spots last season.

Midland Lee is not even close to last years team.

You also have to take into consideration that Midland Lee was playing with their #2 QB in the Clovis East game.

[Eagles52]

So did Midland Lee lose? I thought they won.

[Texasfrog]

So did Midland Lee lose? I thought they won.

They lost in 2 OT. They scored a td but missed the extra pt. Clovis east scored and made the pat to win the game in the 2 Ot.

Back and forth game.

[RidgePride]

This game does nothing but PROVE what I've been saying for about 5 months now. That TEXAS has the best High school football in the country hands down and also has the best High school team "DEPTH" in the country hands down.

Clovis East is one of California top #6 teams "if not higher" and they went to 2 OT with Midland Lee team that probably isnt a Texas top #25 this season.

I'll give Clovis East some credit.. They came to Texas and it was also Midland Lee's "homecoming game." But, the game going to 2 OT proves enough to me.

Tyler Lee going to Ohio and playing Colerain (probably Ohio's #1 team) and playing them fairly tight and only losing by 15 in Ohio. Not bad considering that Tyler Lee probably isnt a top Texas #25 either this season.

Hollywood Chaminade, Fl is one of Florida Top #7 teams and they basically tied Tyler Lee, Tx.

I know some people will argue this.. But, the Legit Texas Top #15 at the end of the season dont take a back seat to anyone.

They may not win all the games against other States top #3 or so teams. But, Texas would have a great winning percentage and without a doubt be the #1 High school football State.

The proof is in the results.. All the results when you look at the Teams, records, results and ect.. indicate that Texas is #1..
Colerain is steam rolling the Ohio teams as REL is looking pityful against TX teams. 27-12... That is closer than any Ohio team has gotten to them.
besides ST X.
Some people are just to stubborn to realize the truth.

Colerain beating SLC - Trinity -Longview - Lufkin - plus several others = No chance in Hell

[Texasfrog]

Colerain is steam rolling the Ohio teams as REL is looking pityful against TX teams. 27-12... That is closer than any Ohio team has gotten to them.
besides ST X.
Some people are just to stubborn to realize the truth.

Colerain beating SLC - Trinity -Longview - Lufkin - plus several others = No chance in Hell

Ya. Colerain beat Princeton tonight 57-20. They probably had their 1st teamers out mid-way through the 3rd QT.

Like I stated forever. Ohio has about 5 decent teams... other then that their is a big dropoff.

I would also put the "legit" Texas Top #15 up against thos top Ohio #5 anyday.

PS. Something tells me that most of Princeton's 20 pts came in the 4th QT. I'll have to find the box score.

[Eagles52]

They lost in 2 OT. They scored a td but missed the extra pt. Clovis east scored and made the pat to win the game in the 2 Ot.

Back and forth game.

Lol here in Abilene the news said Midland Lee won 37-31 in 2 OT. Man were they wrong. Lol.

[steeler 01]

This game does nothing but PROVE what I've been saying for about 5 months now. That TEXAS has the best High school football in the country hands down and also has the best High school team "DEPTH" in the country hands down.

Clovis East is one of California top #6 teams "if not higher" and they went to 2 OT with Midland Lee team that probably isnt a Texas top #25 this season.

I'll give Clovis East some credit.. They came to Texas and it was also Midland Lee's "homecoming game." But, the game going to 2 OT proves enough to me.

Tyler Lee going to Ohio and playing Colerain (probably Ohio's #1 team) and playing them fairly tight and only losing by 15 in Ohio. Not bad considering that Tyler Lee probably isnt a top Texas #25 either this season.

Hollywood Chaminade, Fl is one of Florida Top #7 teams and they basically tied Tyler Lee, Tx.

I know some people will argue this.. But, the Legit Texas Top #15 at the end of the season dont take a back seat to anyone.

They may not win all the games against other States top #3 or so teams. But, Texas would have a great winning percentage and without a doubt be the #1 High school football State.

The proof is in the results.. All the results when you look at the Teams, records, results and ect.. indicate that Texas is #1..
clovis east is rated way to high in california.they will probably end up in 3rd in their division.their ranking is based on their teams from before.this team has played weak comp and has been in dog fights in every game.clovis east is gonna get murdered by clovis west by 20 easily.

[steeler 01]

The Clovis East team is ranked No. 8 in the West Region by USA Today. They're no slouch, but Lee still should have won.

West
1. Mission Viejo, Calif. (4-0)
2. Bellevue, Wash. (3-0)
3. Clovis West, Fresno (3-0)
4. Poly, Long Beach (2-1)
5. Hamilton, Chandler, Ariz. (4-0)
6. Notre Dame, Sherman Oaks, Calif. (3-0)
7. Cherry Creek, Englewood, Colo. (4-0)
8. Clovis (Calif.) East (3-0)
9. Oaks Christian, Westlake Village, Calif. (3-0)
10. Sprague, Salem, Ore. (4-0)
usa today rankings are a joke.oaks christian 4th in cali lmao.long beach poly lost today to dominguez in ot.oaks christian is not in the top 20 in cali.jokes christian is a division 11 school.

[Texasfrog]

clovis east is rated way to high in california.they will probably end up in 3rd in their division.their ranking is based on their teams from before.this team has played weak comp and has been in dog fights in every game.clovis east is gonna get murdered by clovis west by 20 easily.

I dont think Clovis East is a top #3 team in California. I do think they're a top #7 team in California. We'll just have to see how the rest of the season plays out.

This Midland Lee team isnt the same caliber team from the past few seasons. They have some question marks on both sides of the ball. They might make the playoffs "maybe" but they'll probably have an early exit.

I see Midland Lee about #25-#35 in Texas this season. Some of the Midland Lee supporters may come after me but they might not even make the playoffs this season.

Both of the Texas Lee's (Midland Lee & Tyler Lee) seem to have alot of the same rebuilding blues this season. Both of them are going to have to scrap out some district games to make the playoffs.

But, Colerian, Ohio is probably Ohio's #1 team. ( for sure a Top #3 in Ohio).

Clovis East is probably about #7 or so in California this season.

We'll just have to see how the season plays out for alot of these teams (Midland Lee, Tyler Lee, Clovis East, Colerain) to get an idea of how solid the competition level is within each State.

[Texasfrog]

Colerain is steam rolling the Ohio teams as REL is looking pityful against TX teams. 27-12... That is closer than any Ohio team has gotten to them.
besides ST X.
Some people are just to stubborn to realize the truth.

Colerain beating SLC - Trinity -Longview - Lufkin - plus several others = No chance in Hell

Hey Ridge, just like I thought. Princeton scored most of thier points in the 4th QT Colerain 57, Princeton 20

Colerain junior quarterback Gary Pride had 144 yards and one touchdown rushing and 50 yards and two touchdowns passing.

Colerain 14 14 15 14 -57
Princeton 0 7 0 13 -20

after Colerain had rolled up about 40 plus pts on them.

Also Ridge.. Hollywood Chaminade beat Coral Springs Charter 50-6 last night.

Something is indicating to me that the Texas competition "week in and out" is alot tougher then others.

[Texasfrog]

usa today rankings are a joke.oaks christian 4th in cali lmao.long beach poly lost today to dominguez in ot.oaks christian is not in the top 20 in cali.jokes christian is a division 11 school.

Hey Steeler.. I see that DLS lost to Clovis West 7-0.

I also see that DLS plays Mission Viejo soon.

So it will be interesting to see how the Clovis West vs East game plays out and the DLS vs Mission Viejo game plays out.

I know you cant take scores from one game and compare them to another but it does give you somewhat of an idea of the overall competition level.

Remember that Midland Lee lost to:

Southlake Carroll = 48 - 25
Trinity = 63 - 34
Kimball (4A) = 20 - 14

[steeler 01]

Hey Steeler.. I see that DLS lost to Clovis West 7-0.

I also see that DLS plays Mission Viejo soon.

So it will be interesting to see how the Clovis West vs East game plays out and the DLS vs Mission Viejo game plays out.

I know you cant take scores from one game and compare them to another but it does give you somewhat of an idea of the overall competition level.

Remember that Midland Lee lost to:

Southlake Carroll = 48 - 25
Trinity = 63 - 34
Kimball (4A) = 20 - 14
i said this before the midland lee game.clovis east is somewhere in the top 20.theirs alot of ss teams that would beat them this year.st. bonny,hart,mission viejo,loyola etc...

[steeler 01]

Hey Ridge, just like I thought. Princeton scored most of thier points in the 4th QT Colerain 57, Princeton 20

Colerain junior quarterback Gary Pride had 144 yards and one touchdown rushing and 50 yards and two touchdowns passing.

Colerain 14 14 15 14 -57
Princeton 0 7 0 13 -20

after Colerain had rolled up about 40 plus pts on them.

Also Ridge.. Hollywood Chaminade beat Coral Springs Charter 50-6 last night.

Something is indicating to me that the Texas competition "week in and out" is alot tougher then others.
you fail to mention that madonna plays in 2a.where theirs only 2 or 3 teams that are any good.colerain always has the weakest schedule in ohio.when it's playoff time we'll see how colerain does.

[Texasfrog]

i said this before the midland lee game.clovis east is somewhere in the top 20.theirs alot of ss teams that would beat them this year.st. bonny,hart,mission viejo,loyola etc...

I dont think any San Diego area teams can beat Clovis East.

Maybe a few LA area teams can beat them.

Clovis West might beat them.

But, I dont think there is any doubt that Clovis East is a top #10 team in California. If you trying to sell to me that Clovis East is like #15 or #18 in Cali... sorry not buying it.

Not wanting to get into a debate with you. I just dont see Clovis East out of the top #10 in California. I dont doubt that thier is about 6 to 7 teams that could beat them.. but to say they're out of the top #10... :confused:

Clovis West is probably a legit California #4 team.. so the Clovis West vs East game will tell me alot.

Especially with Clovis West beating DLS 7-0 and DLS playing Mission Viejo soon.

Remember... SLC and Trinity destroyed Midland Lee.

[Texasfrog]

you fail to mention that madonna plays in 2a.where theirs only 2 or 3 teams that are any good.colerain always has the weakest schedule in ohio.when it's playoff time we'll see how colerain does.

Its all about overall competition level. What kind of competition level do teams play week in and out.

Colerain plays in a weak area. I'll say so the games are over at halftime usually like 35-7. That's called "WEAK HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL."

Chaminade plays 2A but they play upper level teams. Coral Spring is a "CHARTER" school. We'll see how it plays out over the next few weeks and during the playoffs. Chaminade wont be challenged against until deep into the playoffs.

chaminade also beat Pompano Beach very easily who is an upper division school and also lost to Booker T. Washington by 12 or so pts. BTW is ranked the #1 team in Dade County and like #3 in Florida.

The Florida overall polls have Chaminade ranked like #8 in Florida.

Its a simple fact when you look at the teams, results and margin of victory and ect. No State is in the league with Texas when it comes to High school football.

Clovis East is a top #10 California team and they went to 2 OT with Midland Lee who probably isnt even a top #35 Texas team this season. I mean a (4A) team Dallas Kimball beat them for Christ Sake.

[RidgePride]

you fail to mention that madonna plays in 2a.where theirs only 2 or 3 teams that are any good.colerain always has the weakest schedule in ohio.when it's playoff time we'll see how colerain does.

Colerain plays a weak schedule - (Ohio). So I guess we agree on that.

[steeler 01]

I dont think any San Diego area teams can beat Clovis East.

Maybe a few LA area teams can beat them.

Clovis West might beat them.

But, I dont think there is any doubt that Clovis East is a top #10 team in California. If you trying to sell to me that Clovis East is like #15 or #18 in Cali... sorry not buying it.

Not wanting to get into a debate with you. I just dont see Clovis East out of the top #10 in California. I dont doubt that thier is about 6 to 7 teams that could beat them.. but to say they're out of the top #10... :confused:

Clovis West is probably a legit California #4 team.. so the Clovis West vs East game will tell me alot.

Especially with Clovis West beating DLS 7-0 and DLS playing Mission Viejo soon.

Remember... SLC and Trinity destroyed Midland Lee.
it's funny that you would try and tell a californian where clovis east would be ranked.they have beaten 2 california teams who are average at best by 10 points.their is way more than 6 or 7 teams in the southern section that would beat clovis east this year.i'll name them if you want.

[Texasfrog]

it's funny that you would try and tell a californian where clovis east would be ranked.they have beaten 2 california teams who are average at best by 10 points.their is way more than 6 or 7 teams in the southern section that would beat clovis east this year.i'll name them if you want.

Honestly I dont care where you from.. I lived in California for almost 5 years during the 90's..

You're from California so you're some expert ??? Ok..

Again.. nothing you say or I say really matters does it. The proof will be in the results from the past, present and future this season.

Do I think Clovis East is a top #10 California team.. HELL YES. We'll see how they do the rest of the season in California want we..

I love it man.. You say your a California dude so you know how all the teams stack up in the polls. Wow..

I'm a Texan and I couldnt tell you who #1 #5 #10 or #15 is right now in Texas.

Maybe you need to move to Vegas dude..

[Texasfrog]

it's funny that you would try and tell a californian where clovis east would be ranked.they have beaten 2 california teams who are average at best by 10 points.their is way more than 6 or 7 teams in the southern section that would beat clovis east this year.i'll name them if you want.

Also.. you can spare me the huge list of Southern Section teams that would crush Clovis East. Which I'm 99% is alot of BS anyway.

I know there is a handful of teams that would probably beat them in a hard fougth game.. Not crush them like you want to sell.

Also.. its really easy to make this great list in California when you know that most of these teams wont actually ever met on the football field due to California lack of a playoffs that means anything.

those sectional playoffs are a freaking joke. That's like the Houston #1 team or Dallas #1 team or East Texas #1 team claiming their the #1 team in Texas without playing another team from a different part of the State during playoff time (November, December).

Here, I'll make a list of about 75 teams that would crush Midland Lee for ya.

[Red Raiders]

When do they play? this week? because I am not going to look around and find it.

[steeler 01]

Also.. you can spare me the huge list of Southern Section teams that would crush Clovis East. Which I'm 99% is alot of BS anyway.

I know there is a handful of teams that would probably beat them in a hard fougth game.. Not crush them like you want to sell.

Also.. its really easy to make this great list in California when you know that most of these teams wont actually ever met on the football field due to California lack of a playoffs that means anything.

those sectional playoffs are a freaking joke. That's like the Houston #1 team or Dallas #1 team or East Texas #1 team claiming their the #1 team in Texas without playing another team from a different part of the State during playoff time (November, December).

Here, I'll make a list of about 75 teams that would crush Midland Lee for ya.
where did you live in cali?how can you use the past?if you wanna use the past corona centennial has beaten clovis west the last 3 years.corona centennial is a division 5 school in the southern section.since clovis west beat clovis east last year that would be 1 more team you would have to put ahead of clovis east.if we use the past then we'll say midland lee is a texas power this year.

[steeler 01]

I dont think any San Diego area teams can beat Clovis East.

Maybe a few LA area teams can beat them.

Clovis West might beat them.

But, I dont think there is any doubt that Clovis East is a top #10 team in California. If you trying to sell to me that Clovis East is like #15 or #18 in Cali... sorry not buying it.

Not wanting to get into a debate with you. I just dont see Clovis East out of the top #10 in California. I dont doubt that thier is about 6 to 7 teams that could beat them.. but to say they're out of the top #10... :confused:

Clovis West is probably a legit California #4 team.. so the Clovis West vs East game will tell me alot.

Especially with Clovis West beating DLS 7-0 and DLS playing Mission Viejo soon.

Remember... SLC and Trinity destroyed Midland Lee.
hey frog are they still in the top 7?they lost to a 1-3 edison team.they are not very good this year might not make the playoffs.they will not beat madera or clovis west.they might end up in 4th in their division.next time you talk cali football know what your saying.i said they were top 20 now they don't even look like top 40.

[RidgePride]

hey frog are they still in the top 7?they lost to a 1-3 edison team.they are not very good this year might not make the playoffs.they will not beat madera or clovis west.they might end up in 4th in their division.next time you talk cali football know what your saying.i said they were top 20 now they don't even look like top 40.

Midland Lee is not very good either.

So I guess what was proved was that a not very good Cali team can beat a not very good TX team.

So Who Cares!!!!!!!!!

I would not even argue against you - California has very good high school football teams.

[Bighatnocattle]

Midland Lee is not very good either.

Really? I think I understand the point your trying to make here. But - I'll have to disagree with this quote. I saw the game and both teams were impressive. It was a heck of a game... :D

[RockinL]

Really? I think I understand the point your trying to make here. But - I'll have to disagree with this quote. I saw the game and both teams were impressive. It was a heck of a game... :D
You were impressed????? :confused:

[RidgePride]

Really? I think I understand the point your trying to make here. But - I'll have to disagree with this quote. I saw the game and both teams were impressive. It was a heck of a game... :D
Who has Midland Lee beaten?
Who has Clovis East beaten?

[steeler 01]

Who has Midland Lee beaten?
Who has Clovis East beaten?
clovis east has beaten a team from alaska,west bakersfield and midland lee.they lost to fresno of edison a team that was 1-3

[stevefoxsc]

amazing how they almost lost to a midland lee team thats been down

[steeler 01]

amazing how they almost lost to a midland lee team thats been down
whats so amazing about it?their not that great themselves.their largest margin of victory is 10.

[RidgePride]

clovis east has beaten a team from alaska,west bakersfield and midland lee.they lost to fresno of edison a team that was 1-3
That is exactly my point. Both teams are not very good.

So what is all the hooplah

[ThEgReAtOnE]

steeler 01,
There are many polls, in Texas, that wouldn't put Midland Lee in the Top 40, right now. Yet I see California still thinks highly of Clovis East...and Edison, who beat Clovis East by 1 point. (This poll is provided by CalHiSports)....

1. (1) Clovis West (Fresno) 4-1
The Golden Eagles stay No. 1 since last week's No. 2, Clovis East, also lost last week plus the team they lost to last Friday, Centennial of Corona, isn't exactly chopped liver. The Huskies were No. 4 in the state last year and in the last two weeks they've looked like a top five team in the state this year with sophomore Ryan Bass starting at running back. Clovis West will try to get back on track Friday at home against Central.

2. (3) Sanger 5-0
Justin Webber and Charles Smith both churned out more than 100 yards rushing as the Apaches belted Fresno High, 50-6. Sanger's earlier wins over Buchanan and Clovis also look better due to Buchanan having a win over Edison and Clovis beating Bakersfield on Friday.

3. (7) Yosemite (Oakhurst) 5-0
One of the biggest benefactors of Edison's upset win over Clovis East is the Badgers since they have an impressive win over the Tigers. The state's No. 1 ranked Div. III squad won this week, 57-21, over Kerman and meets Selma in this week's game.

4. (2) Clovis East (Clovis) 4-1
The Timberwolves can still be ahead of Edison in the rankings despite the upset loss since it was a one-point game and since they also have wins over Bullard and West of Bakersfield. Clovis East had two tries from inside the 2-yard line stopped toward the end of the game, which brings back memories of the close losses they endured last year in similar circumstances.

5. (4) Bullard (Fresno) 3-2
Kenny Hedrington rushed for 178 yards and two TDs as the Knights overpowered Central of Fresno, 30-0. Their win over Clovis was strengthened due to the Cougars' defeating Bakersfield.

6. (5) Chowchilla 5-0
Moving up Yosemite to the No. 3 spot actually is a good thing for the Redskins. Now if they are able to beat the Badgers when those two play, you can expect a similar jump in the rankings for them. Chowchilla won this week, 21-0, over Sierra.

7. (6) Tulare 5-0
The Redskins looked better this week in a 69-10 romp past Granite Hills of Porterville. A game against Monache (5-0) on November 4 now looks like the one to watch.

8. (9) Madera 4-1
It was bye week for coach Randy Blankenship's squad, yet the Coyotes still moved up a notch in this week's rankings. They play Buchanan this week in a key Tri-River Athletic Conference opener.

9. (11) Clovis 3-2
Bret Behlen completed 15 passes for 247 yards and one touchdown as the Cougars used a strong first half to beat Bakersfield, 20-9. Their losses are to Sanger and Bullard and now they have wins over BHS as well as Stockdale.

10. (8) Bakersfield 3-2
This is where the Drillers fall after their loss to Clovis. They could be behind Liberty as well, but we like the nature of their 30-6 win recently over Buchanan. This week, Bakersfield hosts Garces.

11. (nr) Edison (Fresno) 2-3
Well, when you knock off a state top 10 team, it's just about mandatory that you get a boost in the rankings. That's unfortunate for Liberty, Buchanan, West, Stockdale and Hoover, who all won last week, but this is the spot where the Tigers need to be. They can be in front of Buchanan despite loss to the Bears because that was an overtime game and one-point margin. Plus, Buchanan also has a 30-6 loss to Bakersfield. Hoover will get the chance to prove it belongs among the section elite this week when it will play Edison.

12. (10) Liberty (Bakersfield) 4-1
The Patriots played at Paso Robles of San Luis Obispo County on Friday and posted a 14-3 triumph. Their close 3-0 loss to Sanger is looking better, but they certainly haven't beaten anyone like Buchanan, thus BHS is still in front the way we have it for Kern County.

13. (14) Buchanan (Clovis) 3-2
Darin Vogt passed for two TDs and ran for another score to lead the Bears past North of Bakersfield, 28-0, in their final nonleague game. We had to move them up in this week's rankings due to Edison's upset of Clovis East. The week before, Buchanan edged Edison, 43-42, in overtime.

14. (12) West (Bakersfield) 4-1
Despite their 46-19 win over Taft in which Prince McCarty motored for 204 yards on nine carries with three TDs rushing plus a 90-yard kickoff return, the Vikings have to drop in this week's rankings. They have to fall behind an Edison team that just upset the same Clovis East squad in which they lost to in week one.

15. (13) Stockdale (Bakersfield) 3-2
The Grizzlies, who have lost to Bakersfield and Clovis, dumped Foothill, 42-27, in their last nonleague game of the season. Their first Southwest Yosemite League game will be against North.

This is the same situation of Tyler Lee and Colerain.

6-1 Colerain, who's ranked #3 in Ohio, beat non-ranked 2-4 Tyler Lee of Texas....27-12. Since then, Tyler Lee has been blown-out twice by elite Texas squads and upset by a team that's, probably, not even in the top 45-50. Colerain has blown everyone out, and the talk is they will repeat as state champs. Oh, and they admit the 2 toughest challenges they've had were to St. X, of Ohio, and a Tyler Lee team that will most likely finish the season 4-6, or 5-5 on the season.

Top Ranked Clovis East played a very poor Midland Lee squad, that will most likely finish the season 2-8. And supposedly this Edison team has loss to some solid squads, by small margins.

My/our point is...
Our poor teams put up great fights against the, more, elite programs of other states. (i.e. California, Ohio, Florida, Louisiana)

Just think what the Top 25-30 Elite programs of Texas would do!!!

And yes, they're that good!!

[steeler 01]

steeler 01,
There are many polls, in Texas, that wouldn't put Midland Lee in the Top 40, right now. Yet I see California still thinks highly of Clovis East...and Edison, who beat Clovis East by 1 point. (This poll is provided by CalHiSports)....

1. (1) Clovis West (Fresno) 4-1
The Golden Eagles stay No. 1 since last week's No. 2, Clovis East, also lost last week plus the team they lost to last Friday, Centennial of Corona, isn't exactly chopped liver. The Huskies were No. 4 in the state last year and in the last two weeks they've looked like a top five team in the state this year with sophomore Ryan Bass starting at running back. Clovis West will try to get back on track Friday at home against Central.

2. (3) Sanger 5-0
Justin Webber and Charles Smith both churned out more than 100 yards rushing as the Apaches belted Fresno High, 50-6. Sanger's earlier wins over Buchanan and Clovis also look better due to Buchanan having a win over Edison and Clovis beating Bakersfield on Friday.

3. (7) Yosemite (Oakhurst) 5-0
One of the biggest benefactors of Edison's upset win over Clovis East is the Badgers since they have an impressive win over the Tigers. The state's No. 1 ranked Div. III squad won this week, 57-21, over Kerman and meets Selma in this week's game.

4. (2) Clovis East (Clovis) 4-1
The Timberwolves can still be ahead of Edison in the rankings despite the upset loss since it was a one-point game and since they also have wins over Bullard and West of Bakersfield. Clovis East had two tries from inside the 2-yard line stopped toward the end of the game, which brings back memories of the close losses they endured last year in similar circumstances.

5. (4) Bullard (Fresno) 3-2
Kenny Hedrington rushed for 178 yards and two TDs as the Knights overpowered Central of Fresno, 30-0. Their win over Clovis was strengthened due to the Cougars' defeating Bakersfield.

6. (5) Chowchilla 5-0
Moving up Yosemite to the No. 3 spot actually is a good thing for the Redskins. Now if they are able to beat the Badgers when those two play, you can expect a similar jump in the rankings for them. Chowchilla won this week, 21-0, over Sierra.

7. (6) Tulare 5-0
The Redskins looked better this week in a 69-10 romp past Granite Hills of Porterville. A game against Monache (5-0) on November 4 now looks like the one to watch.

8. (9) Madera 4-1
It was bye week for coach Randy Blankenship's squad, yet the Coyotes still moved up a notch in this week's rankings. They play Buchanan this week in a key Tri-River Athletic Conference opener.

9. (11) Clovis 3-2
Bret Behlen completed 15 passes for 247 yards and one touchdown as the Cougars used a strong first half to beat Bakersfield, 20-9. Their losses are to Sanger and Bullard and now they have wins over BHS as well as Stockdale.

10. (8) Bakersfield 3-2
This is where the Drillers fall after their loss to Clovis. They could be behind Liberty as well, but we like the nature of their 30-6 win recently over Buchanan. This week, Bakersfield hosts Garces.

11. (nr) Edison (Fresno) 2-3
Well, when you knock off a state top 10 team, it's just about mandatory that you get a boost in the rankings. That's unfortunate for Liberty, Buchanan, West, Stockdale and Hoover, who all won last week, but this is the spot where the Tigers need to be. They can be in front of Buchanan despite loss to the Bears because that was an overtime game and one-point margin. Plus, Buchanan also has a 30-6 loss to Bakersfield. Hoover will get the chance to prove it belongs among the section elite this week when it will play Edison.

12. (10) Liberty (Bakersfield) 4-1
The Patriots played at Paso Robles of San Luis Obispo County on Friday and posted a 14-3 triumph. Their close 3-0 loss to Sanger is looking better, but they certainly haven't beaten anyone like Buchanan, thus BHS is still in front the way we have it for Kern County.

13. (14) Buchanan (Clovis) 3-2
Darin Vogt passed for two TDs and ran for another score to lead the Bears past North of Bakersfield, 28-0, in their final nonleague game. We had to move them up in this week's rankings due to Edison's upset of Clovis East. The week before, Buchanan edged Edison, 43-42, in overtime.

14. (12) West (Bakersfield) 4-1
Despite their 46-19 win over Taft in which Prince McCarty motored for 204 yards on nine carries with three TDs rushing plus a 90-yard kickoff return, the Vikings have to drop in this week's rankings. They have to fall behind an Edison team that just upset the same Clovis East squad in which they lost to in week one.

15. (13) Stockdale (Bakersfield) 3-2
The Grizzlies, who have lost to Bakersfield and Clovis, dumped Foothill, 42-27, in their last nonleague game of the season. Their first Southwest Yosemite League game will be against North.

This is the same situation of Tyler Lee and Colerain.

6-1 Colerain, who's ranked #3 in Ohio, beat non-ranked 2-4 Tyler Lee of Texas....27-12. Since then, Tyler Lee has been blown-out twice by elite Texas squads and upset by a team that's, probably, not even in the top 45-50. Colerain has blown everyone out, and the talk is they will repeat as state champs. Oh, and they admit the 2 toughest challenges they've had were to St. X, of Ohio, and a Tyler Lee team that will most likely finish the season 4-6, or 5-5 on the season.

Top Ranked Clovis East played a very poor Midland Lee squad, that will most likely finish the season 2-8. And supposedly this Edison team has loss to some solid squads, by small margins.

My/our point is...
Our poor teams put up great fights against the, more, elite programs of other states. (i.e. California, Ohio, Florida, Louisiana)

Just think what the Top 25-30 Elite programs of Texas would do!!!

And yes, they're that good!!
you do know that ranking is for their section only right?their is only like 24 teams in their section and they will lose 2 more times at least.also calhisports will not drop them that far down since they had clovis east ranked 4th in the state which was absurd.post their ranking in 3 weeks they wont be top 10 their anymore.midland lee will make the playoffs.they will finish 2nd in their district don't bs me and say theyll finish 2-8.do you really think odessa permian and odessa have a chance to beat midland lee?clovis east is not 1 of the best teams in state.

[cougardude]

The Lee-Clovis East game was almost two weeks ago. Who cares now???

[ThEgReAtOnE]

you do know that ranking is for their section only right?their is only like 24 teams in their section and they will lose 2 more times at least.also calhisports will not drop them that far down since they had clovis east ranked 4th in the state which was absurd.post their ranking in 3 weeks they wont be top 10 their anymore.midland lee will make the playoffs.they will finish 2nd in their district don't bs me and say theyll finish 2-8.do you really think odessa permian and odessa have a chance to beat midland lee?clovis east is not 1 of the best teams in state.

Abilene High
Midland High
Odessa High
Odessa Permian

...all can beat Midland Lee. Finishing 2nd in their district is nothing considering the best team of their district (Abilene) I wouldn't put in the top 15 in Texas....but of course I don't see Midland Lee finishing 2nd, anyways. Just like Tyler Lee fans, Midland Lee fans are hoping their losing team can muster up some upsets and squeek into the playoffs. I don't wish anyone to fail....but most likely Midland Lee and Tyler Lee will not make the playoffs!

Clovis East is a top ranked Cali team....every Cali poll indicates they are...you're actually the only, sole, person, in Cali, who disputes that! I would love to put De LaSalle, Clovis West, Long Beach Poly or Mission Vejo against Southlake Carroll, Spring Westfield, Katy, North Shore, Lufkin or Longview!

[steeler 01]

Abilene High
Midland High
Odessa High
Odessa Permian

...all can beat Midland Lee. Finishing 2nd in their district is nothing considering the best team of their district (Abilene) I wouldn't put in the top 15 in Texas....but of course I don't see Midland Lee finishing 2nd, anyways. Just like Tyler Lee fans, Midland Lee fans are hoping their losing team can muster up some upsets and squeek into the playoffs. I don't wish anyone to fail....but most likely Midland Lee and Tyler Lee will not make the playoffs!

Clovis East is a top ranked Cali team....every Cali poll indicates they are...you're actually the only, sole, person, in Cali, who disputes that! I would love to put De LaSalle, Clovis West, Long Beach Poly or Mission Vejo against Southlake Carroll, Spring Westfield, Katy, North Shore, Lufkin or Longview!
i dont think you can call midland lee beating odessa permian,or odessa,an upset .the midland game will determine who finishes 2nd in the district.how can you think that after losing to a 1-3 team clovis east is as good as you claim?ive said all along that their ranking this year is based on their teams from the past.this team is no where near those teams.if you look at the state ranking their ranked in the top 30.by the end of the year theyll be in the top 50.madera and clovis west will beat them.buchannon might beat them also.if that happens theyll finish 4th in the trac.

[Texasfrog]

i dont think you can call midland lee beating odessa permian,or odessa,an upset .the midland game will determine who finishes 2nd in the district.how can you think that after losing to a 1-3 team clovis east is as good as you claim?ive said all along that their ranking this year is based on their teams from the past.this team is no where near those teams.if you look at the state ranking their ranked in the top 30.by the end of the year theyll be in the top 50.madera and clovis west will beat them.buchannon might beat them also.if that happens theyll finish 4th in the trac.


Steeler.. first let the season play out. I love the way you just claim all these teams are going to beat Clovis East. Let's see ok. A 1pt loss to a team that has a couple of losses to teams that are basically (5-0) isnt bad.

We'll see how Clovis East finishes the season out. The Clovis West game will tell me alot because Clovis West is a top #5 California team.

Midland Lee will have to scrap out a playoff spot in a district that's not considered one of the top 7 or 8 districts in Texas this season. The only team in that West Texas district that even has a chance to really making a playoff run is Abilene.

Let me put it to you this way. If that Clovis East team played fulltime in Texas. They would be about like Midland Lee. Getting their doors blowoff by teams like Southlake Carroll and Euless Trinity and even about 15 Texas (4A) teams could beat them.

So, track how Midland Lee does in Texas because (Clovis East) is about on par with Midland Lee.

PS. I saw the Mission Viejo vs DLS game. It was a back and forth game that went deep into the 4th QT until DLS killed themselves with a couple of turnovers. It ended up being like 42-30 or something like that.

DLS beat Clovis West 7-0.. So, basically it looks like MV, DLS and Clovis West are all pretty even overall. MV might be slightly better most Friday nights.

The Clovis WEST vs EAST game will tell me alot.

[steeler 01]

Steeler.. first let the season play out. I love the way you just claim all these teams are going to beat Clovis East. Let's see ok. A 1pt loss to a team that has a couple of losses to teams that are basically (5-0) isnt bad.

We'll see how Clovis East finishes the season out. The Clovis West game will tell me alot because Clovis West is a top #5 California team.

Midland Lee will have to scrap out a playoff spot in a district that's not considered one of the top 7 or 8 districts in Texas this season. The only team in that West Texas district that even has a chance to really making a playoff run is Abilene.

Let me put it to you this way. If that Clovis East team played fulltime in Texas. They would be about like Midland Lee. Getting their doors blowoff by teams like Southlake Carroll and Euless Trinity and even about 15 Texas (4A) teams could beat them.

So, track how Midland Lee does in Texas because (Clovis East) is about on par with Midland Lee.

PS. I saw the Mission Viejo vs DLS game. It was a back and forth game that went deep into the 4th QT until DLS killed themselves with a couple of turnovers. It ended up being like 42-30 or something like that.

DLS beat Clovis West 7-0.. So, basically it looks like MV, DLS and Clovis West are all pretty even overall. MV might be slightly better most Friday nights.

The Clovis WEST vs EAST game will tell me alot.
i find it very hard to believe you watched the game,or you would know that dls had so many lucky breaks in that game it was unreal.also in the 4th quarter dls didnt have a to till the game was over.mission just ran the ball which they should have done all game since they avg 5 yards a carry.they scored two times in the 4th quarter then the score was 36-26.then dls threw a int.dls biggest play of the night on offense was a fumble that they picked up and went 35 yards for.

[steeler 01]

i find it very hard to believe you watched the game,or you would know that dls had so many lucky breaks in that game it was unreal.also in the 4th quarter dls didnt have a to till the game was over.mission just ran the ball which they should have done all game since they avg 5 yards a carry.they scored two times in the 4th quarter then the score was 36-26.then dls threw a int.dls biggest play of the night on offense was a fumble that they picked up and went 35 yards for.
also saying they basically lost to a team that has lost to teams that are 5-0.since when is 3-2 almost 5-0?midland lee did lost to teams that are undefeated and are top ranked in state.where as fresno of edison didnt lose to a top team in state other than clovis west.their top 10 in state not top 5.losing 42-21 to cc is not a top 5 team in state.dont you think cc deserves to be in front of clovis west after the beat down they gave them?also cc has 1 loss that being a 28 point blowout to long beach poly.

[outtacontrol]

Clovis East RB is a beast...tracy something he's a 4-star on scout.com

[Texasfrog]

clovis east is rated way to high in california.they will probably end up in 3rd in their division.their ranking is based on their teams from before.this team has played weak comp and has been in dog fights in every game.clovis east is gonna get murdered by clovis west by 20 easily.


Hey Steeler... Do you want to reconsider that statement now? I believe that Clovis East beat Clovis West 34-7.

This is the same Clovis West team that beat De La Salle (7-0).

Do I think Clovis East is a pretty solid California team and probably a top #10 California team.. "YES". Dont be pissed because a mid-road Midland Lee, Tx team lost to them in 2 OT.

Clovis East is very legit out in California depsite what you harpped for weeks. Is Clovis East the beat team in California.. probably NOT. Mission Viejo probably is. But, MV, DLS, LB Poly and about 5 others aint bad. I would easily put Clovis East up there in that top echlon of California teams.

Steeler... I also like the fact that the California Central Section is considered one of the toughest football sections in California and who is ranked #1 in it on Oct.30th ?? Clovis East !!!!

[Texasfrog]

Hey Steeler..... Clovis East destroyed Buchanan tonight something like 35-14. Their still ranked #1 in Central California and I'm still sure their a top #10 California team.

Looks like they might see some competition this next week with Madera High.

The (2OT) win against a so so Midland Lee team now is looking worse because Clovis East is starting to look like a pretty good California power.

[RidgePride]

Hey Steeler..... Clovis East destroyed Buchanan tonight something like 35-14. Their still ranked #1 in Central California and I'm still sure their a top #10 California team.

Looks like they might see some competition this next week with Madera High.

The (2OT) win against a so so Midland Lee team now is looking worse because Clovis East is starting to look like a pretty good California power.

Some people are too ignorant to understand the truth.

[Texasfrog]

Some people are too ignorant to understand the truth.

I know... Steeler was the one trying to tell everyone that Clovis East really want that good of a team out in California and blah blah blah...

I guess Clovis East decided not to listen to him because they've been doing pretty well out there and most of the voters have them #1 in the Central Section which is suppose to be one of the toughest sections in California.