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78 Spartan
08-27-2007, 08:46 AM
Since 1992, when the predecessor organization to the BCS was instituted, here's the number of appearances by conference and the number of different schools represented in the official national championship game. I believe looking back any further than 15 years is silly if we're arguing about which is the best conference in America now. (In fact, probably all but the last three years is irrelevant if we're talking about now).
I am putting this out there for reference and not to incite a riot.
Big XII:
9 appearances, 5 wins, 3 different teams (Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas)
Southeastern Conference:
7 appearances, 4 wins, 4 different teams (Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama)
ACC:
5 appearances, 2 wins, 1 team (Florida State)
Big East:
5 appearances, 1 win, 2 different teams (Miami, Virginia Tech)
Big Ten:
2 appearances, 1 win, 1 team (Ohio State)
PAC-10:
2 appearances, 1 win, 1 team (USC)
Different people can look at the same data and draw different conclusions. To me the SEC and Big XII conferences deserve extra consideration for making their champions win an extra playoff game to get to a national championship game. No loser of an SEC championship game has been invited to play in a national championship game, but of course we all know that one Big XII championship game loser was invited (OU in 2003).
The Big XII has made nine appearances, the most of any single conference, with Nebraska appearing five times, Oklahoma three times, and Texas once. Does that make it the best?
Since the two Big East participants are now both playing in the ACC, you could look at the ACC as having three teams that have made ten appearances and won three times. Does that make the ACC the best league in America?
The strongest individual programs during this period were Nebraska and Florida State with five appearances each. Both of those programs have experienced down years (relatively speaking) and are "rebounding" programs today.
One could make the argument that the SEC is the most internally competitive conference over that period because it's had the most different teams participating in a national championship game.
Discuss among yourselves.
jtk1519
08-27-2007, 09:03 AM
I have a real problem crediting the Big XII with accomplishments made by it's member schools before the Big XII even existed. IMO, the Big XII's bragging rights begin in '96 and not a day before. Nebraska's appearances and titles in '94 and '95 belong to the Big 8 just as Texas titles in the 60s belong to the SWC. The ACC does not get Miami's national titles, the Big Televen does not Penn State's national titles, etc.
Favpack
08-27-2007, 09:14 AM
This proves beyond a doubt that Iowa State is vastly under-rated.
Actually - I agree that you throw out anything ACC or Big East. And, we all know the Pac10 is weak.
But, the numbers are interesting. I generally concur the B12 is stronger than it would appear - at least the top third is.
pack0808
08-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Since 1992, when the predecessor organization to the BCS was instituted, here's the number of appearances by conference and the number of different schools represented in the official national championship game. I believe looking back any further than 15 years is silly if we're arguing about which is the best conference in America now. (In fact, probably all but the last three years is irrelevant if we're talking about now).
I am putting this out there for reference and not to incite a riot.
Big XII:
9 appearances, 5 wins, 3 different teams (Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas)
Southeastern Conference:
7 appearances, 4 wins, 4 different teams (Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama)
ACC:
5 appearances, 2 wins, 1 team (Florida State)
Big East:
5 appearances, 1 win, 2 different teams (Miami, Virginia Tech)
Big Ten:
2 appearances, 1 win, 1 team (Ohio State)
PAC-10:
2 appearances, 1 win, 1 team (USC)
Different people can look at the same data and draw different conclusions. To me the SEC and Big XII conferences deserve extra consideration for making their champions win an extra playoff game to get to a national championship game. No loser of an SEC championship game has been invited to play in a national championship game, but of course we all know that one Big XII championship game loser was invited (OU in 2003).
The Big XII has made nine appearances, the most of any single conference, with Nebraska appearing five times, Oklahoma three times, and Texas once. Does that make it the best?
Since the two Big East participants are now both playing in the ACC, you could look at the ACC as having three teams that have made ten appearances and won three times. Does that make the ACC the best league in America?
The strongest individual programs during this period were Nebraska and Florida State with five appearances each. Both of those programs have experienced down years (relatively speaking) and are "rebounding" programs today.
One could make the argument that the SEC is the most internally competitive conference over that period because it's had the most different teams participating in a national championship game.
Discuss among yourselves.
Not very fair to say. Michigan won the ap national championship in 97. They would have definitely been in the nc game if there was a bcs game back then. The same could definitely be said for undefeated (12-0) Penn St. team in 94. I thought they were the best team in the nation that year but they got voted #2.
jrock210
09-25-2007, 09:21 PM
Ha I went back ionnime but I say this info proves Big 12 is an elite conferance
jtk1519
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
Ha I went back ionnime but I say this info proves Big 12 was an elite conferance
FIFY
cajun
09-25-2007, 09:38 PM
I would just like it noted for the records that you failed to put Auburn and it's National Title in 2004 on the list...That makes 5 different teams..
I would also like to give a special thanks to the Florida Gators(SEC) from perventing the Georgia Bulldogs(SEC) from winning the National Title in 2002..That's right...
Georgia in 2002 was 13-1 and beat Florida State 26-13 in the Sugar Bowl...
Miami played Ohio State for the Title that year and of course Ohio State won it 31-24..
Miami played Florida State also during the year and only beat them 28-27...That's right...
Georgia would have crushed Miami or Ohio State in 2002...
Heck, put them on list too..That 6 teams...
HUM398
09-25-2007, 09:41 PM
Who gives a :Censor:.
here is what i know.
We ARE Texas, and the rest of you blow.
BoomerSooner
09-25-2007, 09:44 PM
I would just like it noted for the records that you failed to put Auburn and it's National Title in 2004 on the list...That makes 5 different teams..
Haha. USC was far and away the best team that year.
cajun
09-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Haha. USC was far and away the best team that year.
What?...I added another team too..:D
6 teams!
Who gives a :Censor:.
here is what i know.
We ARE Texas, and the rest of you blow.
i believe sam houston said that line when speaking to the rest of the world
GoOwls
09-26-2007, 01:44 AM
Who gives a :Censor:.
here is what i know.
We ARE Texas, and the rest of you blow.
Hook 'em!!!!!
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 08:53 AM
I would just like it noted for the records that you failed to put Auburn and it's National Title in 2004 on the list...That makes 5 different teams..
I would also like to give a special thanks to the Florida Gators(SEC) from perventing the Georgia Bulldogs(SEC) from winning the National Title in 2002..That's right...
Georgia in 2002 was 13-1 and beat Florida State 26-13 in the Sugar Bowl...
Miami played Ohio State for the Title that year and of course Ohio State won it 31-24..
Miami played Florida State also during the year and only beat them 28-27...That's right...
Georgia would have crushed Miami or Ohio State in 2002...
Heck, put them on list too..That 6 teams...
Auburn won the National Title in 2004?? That's odd, seeing how it is OU and USC played for the title. And... Auburn struggled to beat a 2-loss Virginia Tech in their Bowl Game (16-13). (Va Tech lost to USC = 13-24) I don't think any team beats USC, in 2004.
In 2002, Georgia struggled to beat (7-6) Clemson = 31-28, (5-7) South Carolina = 13-7, (10-3) Alabama = 27-25, (8-5) Tennessee = 18-13, (9-4) Auburn = 24-21 and lost to a 5-loss Florida team (13-20). And Florida beat FSU, the same team Gerogia beat in the Sugar Bowl, 31-14,... which was more convincing than Georgia's win.
cajun
09-26-2007, 10:48 AM
Auburn won the National Title in 2004?? That's odd, seeing how it is OU and USC played for the title. And... Auburn struggled to beat a 2-loss Virginia Tech in their Bowl Game (16-13). (Va Tech lost to USC = 13-24) I don't think any team beats USC, in 2004.
In 2002, Georgia struggled to beat (7-6) Clemson = 31-28, (5-7) South Carolina = 13-7, (10-3) Alabama = 27-25, (8-5) Tennessee = 18-13, (9-4) Auburn = 24-21 and lost to a 5-loss Florida team (13-20). And Florida beat FSU, the same team Gerogia beat in the Sugar Bowl, 31-14,... which was more convincing than Georgia's win.
Please!..Put Ohio State in the SEC in 2002 they may win 7 games...:D
2002-Ohio State (Big Ten)
8/24 vs. Texas Tech (9-5) W 45 21 @ Columbus, OH Pigskin Classic
9/7 vs. Kent (3-9) W 51 17
9/14 vs. Washington State (10-3) W 25 7
9/21 vs. Cincinnati (7-7) W 23 19 @ Cincinnati, OH
9/28 vs. *Indiana (3-9) W 45 17
10/5 @ *Northwestern (3-9) W 27 16
10/12 vs. San Jose State (6-7) W 50 7
10/19 @ *Wisconsin (8-6) W 19 14
10/26 vs. *Penn State (9-4) W 13 7
11/2 vs. *Minnesota (8-5) W 34 3
11/9 @ *Purdue (7-6) W 10 6
11/16 @ *Illinois (5-7) W 23 16
11/23 vs. *Michigan (10-3) W 14 9
1/3 vs. Miami (Florida) (12-1) W 31 24 @ Tempe, AZ Fiesta Bowl
pack0808
09-26-2007, 11:36 AM
Please!..Put Ohio State in the SEC in 2002 they may win 7 games...:D
2002-Ohio State (Big Ten)
8/24 vs. Texas Tech (9-5) W 45 21 @ Columbus, OH Pigskin Classic
9/7 vs. Kent (3-9) W 51 17
9/14 vs. Washington State (10-3) W 25 7
9/21 vs. Cincinnati (7-7) W 23 19 @ Cincinnati, OH
9/28 vs. *Indiana (3-9) W 45 17
10/5 @ *Northwestern (3-9) W 27 16
10/12 vs. San Jose State (6-7) W 50 7
10/19 @ *Wisconsin (8-6) W 19 14
10/26 vs. *Penn State (9-4) W 13 7
11/2 vs. *Minnesota (8-5) W 34 3
11/9 @ *Purdue (7-6) W 10 6
11/16 @ *Illinois (5-7) W 23 16
11/23 vs. *Michigan (10-3) W 14 9
1/3 vs. Miami (Florida) (12-1) W 31 24 @ Tempe, AZ Fiesta Bowl
Absolutely a ridiculous statement. You do not even give a team credit from the Big10 when they win the NC fair and square in the BCS system. Who cares if they had close games? So let me play like you and show you how illogical it is.
Iowa 2003
8/30 vs. Miami (Ohio) (13-1) W 21 3
9/6 vs. Buffalo (1-11) W 56 7
9/13 @ Iowa State (2-10) W 40 21
9/20 vs. Arizona State (5-7) W 21 2
9/27 @ *Michigan State (8-5) L 10 20
10/4 vs. *Michigan (10-3) W 30 27
10/18 @ *Ohio State (11-2) L 10 19
10/25 vs. *Penn State (3-9) W 26 14
11/1 vs. *Illinois (1-11) W 41 10
11/8 @ *Purdue (9-4) L 13 27
11/15 vs. *Minnesota (10-3) W 40 22
11/22 @ *Wisconsin (7-6) W 27 21
1/1 vs. Florida (8-5) W 37 17 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
10-3-0 372 210
LSU 2003
8/30 vs. Louisiana-Monroe (1-11) W 49 7
9/6 @ Arizona (2-10) W 59 13
9/13 vs. Western Illinois (non-IA) W 35 7
9/20 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 17 10
9/27 @ *Mississippi State (2-10) W 41 6
10/11 vs. *Florida (8-5) L 7 19 10/18 @ *South Carolina (5-7) W 33 7
10/25 vs. *Auburn (8-5) W 31 7
11/1 vs. Louisiana Tech (5-7) W 49 10
11/15 @ *Alabama (4-9) W 27 3
11/22 @ *Mississippi (10-3) W 17 14
11/28 vs. *Arkansas (9-4) W 55 24
12/6 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 34 13 @ Atlanta, GA SEC Championship
1/4 vs. Oklahoma (12-2) W 21 14 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
13-1-0
475 154
In LSU's NC year the Tigers only lost to Florida who was destroyed by Iowa. Iowa did not even win the Big10 that year. So using your logic LSU would have lost many games in the Big10 that year? Also, Iowa beat a 6-2 SEC LSU team the very next year 30-25! So I guess LSU could not handle the Big10 according to your logic?
cajun
09-26-2007, 11:51 AM
Absolutely a ridiculous statement. You do not even give a team credit from the Big10 when they win the NC fair and square in the BCS system. Who cares if they had close games? So let me play like you and show you how illogical it is.
Iowa 2003
8/30 vs. Miami (Ohio) (13-1) W 21 3
9/6 vs. Buffalo (1-11) W 56 7
9/13 @ Iowa State (2-10) W 40 21
9/20 vs. Arizona State (5-7) W 21 2
9/27 @ *Michigan State (8-5) L 10 20
10/4 vs. *Michigan (10-3) W 30 27
10/18 @ *Ohio State (11-2) L 10 19
10/25 vs. *Penn State (3-9) W 26 14
11/1 vs. *Illinois (1-11) W 41 10
11/8 @ *Purdue (9-4) L 13 27
11/15 vs. *Minnesota (10-3) W 40 22
11/22 @ *Wisconsin (7-6) W 27 21
1/1 vs. Florida (8-5) W 37 17 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
10-3-0 372 210
LSU 2003
8/30 vs. Louisiana-Monroe (1-11) W 49 7
9/6 @ Arizona (2-10) W 59 13
9/13 vs. Western Illinois (non-IA) W 35 7
9/20 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 17 10
9/27 @ *Mississippi State (2-10) W 41 6
10/11 vs. *Florida (8-5) L 7 19 10/18 @ *South Carolina (5-7) W 33 7
10/25 vs. *Auburn (8-5) W 31 7
11/1 vs. Louisiana Tech (5-7) W 49 10
11/15 @ *Alabama (4-9) W 27 3
11/22 @ *Mississippi (10-3) W 17 14
11/28 vs. *Arkansas (9-4) W 55 24
12/6 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 34 13 @ Atlanta, GA SEC Championship
1/4 vs. Oklahoma (12-2) W 21 14 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
13-1-0
475 154
In LSU's NC year the Tigers only lost to Florida who was destroyed by Iowa. Iowa did not even win the Big10 that year. So using your logic LSU would have lost many games in the Big10 that year? Also, Iowa beat a 6-2 SEC LSU team the very next year 30-25! So I guess LSU could not handle the Big10 according to your logic?
The point of the exercise was this, pack..
The ThEgReAtOnE says Georgia struggled in the SEC....
No one struggled more than Ohio State in 2002..How many games did they win in the last seconds or minutes that year-too many to be #1 in my opinion....They wouldn't have gotten that lucky in the SEC....:D
PeterGibbons
09-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Auburn won the National Title in 2004?? That's odd, seeing how it is OU and USC played for the title. And... Auburn struggled to beat a 2-loss Virginia Tech in their Bowl Game (16-13). (Va Tech lost to USC = 13-24) I don't think any team beats USC, in 2004.
In 2002, Georgia struggled to beat (7-6) Clemson = 31-28, (5-7) South Carolina = 13-7, (10-3) Alabama = 27-25, (8-5) Tennessee = 18-13, (9-4) Auburn = 24-21 and lost to a 5-loss Florida team (13-20). And Florida beat FSU, the same team Gerogia beat in the Sugar Bowl, 31-14,... which was more convincing than Georgia's win.
I was at that Sugar Bowl game and Georgia could easily have scored 40 or 50 in that game. Richt played the game very conservative, they barely threw the ball just pounded it up the middle anf FSU couldn't stop a dang thing.
That year's Georgia team would have matched up real well against eith Miami or Ohio State, besides everyone know's their record, OSU can't beat any teams from the SEC in a bowl game.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 12:38 PM
Absolutely a ridiculous statement. You do not even give a team credit from the Big10 when they win the NC fair and square in the BCS system. Who cares if they had close games? So let me play like you and show you how illogical it is.
Iowa 2003
8/30 vs. Miami (Ohio) (13-1) W 21 3
9/6 vs. Buffalo (1-11) W 56 7
9/13 @ Iowa State (2-10) W 40 21
9/20 vs. Arizona State (5-7) W 21 2
9/27 @ *Michigan State (8-5) L 10 20
10/4 vs. *Michigan (10-3) W 30 27
10/18 @ *Ohio State (11-2) L 10 19
10/25 vs. *Penn State (3-9) W 26 14
11/1 vs. *Illinois (1-11) W 41 10
11/8 @ *Purdue (9-4) L 13 27
11/15 vs. *Minnesota (10-3) W 40 22
11/22 @ *Wisconsin (7-6) W 27 21
1/1 vs. Florida (8-5) W 37 17 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
10-3-0 372 210
LSU 2003
8/30 vs. Louisiana-Monroe (1-11) W 49 7
9/6 @ Arizona (2-10) W 59 13
9/13 vs. Western Illinois (non-IA) W 35 7
9/20 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 17 10
9/27 @ *Mississippi State (2-10) W 41 6
10/11 vs. *Florida (8-5) L 7 19 10/18 @ *South Carolina (5-7) W 33 7
10/25 vs. *Auburn (8-5) W 31 7
11/1 vs. Louisiana Tech (5-7) W 49 10
11/15 @ *Alabama (4-9) W 27 3
11/22 @ *Mississippi (10-3) W 17 14
11/28 vs. *Arkansas (9-4) W 55 24
12/6 vs. *Georgia (11-3) W 34 13 @ Atlanta, GA SEC Championship
1/4 vs. Oklahoma (12-2) W 21 14 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
13-1-0
475 154
In LSU's NC year the Tigers only lost to Florida who was destroyed by Iowa. Iowa did not even win the Big10 that year. So using your logic LSU would have lost many games in the Big10 that year? Also, Iowa beat a 6-2 SEC LSU team the very next year 30-25! So I guess LSU could not handle the Big10 according to your logic?
Bingo! This type of thinking is always resourceful when it is backing your argument. When the situation is reversed, it becomes a "different point of exercise". LOL!
pack0808
09-26-2007, 12:57 PM
The point of the exercise was this, pack..
The ThEgReAtOnE says Georgia struggled in the SEC....
No one struggled more than Ohio State in 2002..How many games did they win in the last seconds or minutes that year-too many to be #1 in my opinion....They wouldn't have gotten that lucky in the SEC....:D
Yeah but they found a way to always win and that is what counts. They were one of many teams throughout history that have won many close regular season games or even lost a game before winning it all. They did what they had to do and went undefeated and beat the #1 team in the nation in the BCS championship.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 12:59 PM
I was at that Sugar Bowl game and Georgia could easily have scored 40 or 50 in that game. Richt played the game very conservative, they barely threw the ball just pounded it up the middle anf FSU couldn't stop a dang thing.
That year's Georgia team would have matched up real well against eith Miami or Ohio State, besides everyone know's their record, OSU can't beat any teams from the SEC in a bowl game.
Peter - Whether you were at the game or not, it doesn't take a genius to notice these things... 1st thing being, FSU was without starting QB-Chris Rix (Ineligible) and his back-up QB-McPherson (Dismissed)... and then look at the game stats...
Scoring
Georgia = 1 Offensive TD/4 FG's (1 interception returned for TD)
FSU = 2 Offensive TD's
Note: How can you say a team could've scored 40 or 50 pts on someone, when their offense only scored 1 td?? Btw, FSU had 41 rushes, while Georgia had 36 rushes. So both teams were running the ball, all night long.
Total yards
Georgia = 276 yds
FSU = 262 yds
1st Downs
Georgia = 11
FSU = 18
Time of Poss.
Georgia = 26:09
FSU = 33:51
Turnovers
Georgia = 1
FSU = 2
Sacked
Georgia = 4
FSU = 6
Remember, FSU was 9-5 on the season, while Georgia finished 13-1. Clearly, Georgia wasn't as lethal as you suggest. Their offense could barely muster 11 1st downs.
cajun
09-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Peter - Whether you were at the game or not, it doesn't take a genius to notice these things... 1st thing being, FSU was without starting QB-Chris Rix (Ineligible) and his back-up QB-McPherson (Dismissed)... and then look at the game stats...
Scoring
Georgia = 1 Offensive TD/4 FG's (1 interception returned for TD)
FSU = 2 Offensive TD's
Note: How can you say a team could've scored 40 or 50 pts on someone, when their offense only scored 1 td?? Btw, FSU had 41 rushes, while Georgia had 36 rushes. So both teams were running the ball, all night long.
Total yards
Georgia = 276 yds
FSU = 262 yds
1st Downs
Georgia = 11
FSU = 18
Time of Poss.
Georgia = 26:09
FSU = 33:51
Turnovers
Georgia = 1
FSU = 2
Sacked
Georgia = 4
FSU = 6
Remember, FSU was 9-5 on the season, while Georgia finished 13-1. Clearly, Georgia wasn't as lethal as you suggest. Their offense could barely muster 11 1st downs.
Actually, what was said was this....I was at that Sugar Bowl game and Georgia could easily have scored 40 or 50 in that game. Richt played the game very conservative, they barely threw the ball just pounded it up the middle anf FSU couldn't stop a dang thing.
That stats pretty prove his point....
Georgia ran the ball 36 times for almost 160 yards and only threw it 15 times completing 10 of those passes for 125...Very conservative for a bowl game....
Florida St threw it almost 30 times...
Of course that's the same 9-5 Florida St team that got beat by #1 Miami 28-27 at the time....Florida St had almost 400 total yards and 25 First Downs against Miami.... Greg Jones for Florida State rushed for almost 200 yards against Miami....
Florida St missed a field goal-a chippy at 43 yards...Florida St makes it Miami ain't in the title game....
Bottom line...
Georgia crushes both of those lucky teams of 2002...Miami and Ohio State....
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 02:56 PM
Actually, what was said was this....I was at that Sugar Bowl game and Georgia could easily have scored 40 or 50 in that game. Richt played the game very conservative, they barely threw the ball just pounded it up the middle anf FSU couldn't stop a dang thing.
That stats pretty prove his point....
Georgia ran the ball 36 times for almost 160 yards and only threw it 15 times completing 10 of those passes for 125...Very conservative for a bowl game....
Florida St threw it almost 30 times...
Of course that's the same 9-5 Florida St team that got beat by #1 Miami 28-27 at the time....Florida St had almost 400 total yards and 25 First Downs against Miami.... Greg Jones for Florida State rushed for almost 200 yards against Miami....
Florida St missed a field goal-a chippy at 43 yards...Florida St makes it Miami ain't in the title game....
Bottom line...
Georgia crushes both of those lucky teams of 2002...Miami and Ohio State....
No.. bottom line is Georgia beats FSU by 13 pts, due to 1 offensive td, 4 fg's and an int returned for a td... all against a team who is playing without their #1 and #2 QB's.
Bottom line is Georgia lost to Florida.. another 5-loss team.
P.S. He said "Georgia coulda laid 40 or 50 on them!"... how could Georgia's offense lay 40 or 50 on FSU is their offense only scored 1 td, that night??
cajun
09-26-2007, 03:01 PM
P.S. He said "Georgia coulda laid 40 or 50 on them!"... how could Georgia's offense lay 40 or 50 on FSU is their offense only scored 1 td, that night??
Georgia was very conservative
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Georgia was very conservative
Think about it... Georgia rushed the ball 36 times, while FSU rushed the ball 41 times. And... FSU was leading Georgia, 6 mins before halftime, when their 3rd/4th String QB threw an int that was returned for td. Georgia had a THOUSAND opportunities to score on offense, but were continously held to fg's. FSU simply had no QB, or this may have been a much closer game. (Not saying Rix mattered THAT much!)
It's just insane to say an offense, that only scored 1 td, would've scored 40 or 50 on FSU. If they could've.. they would've.
Btw, Starting RB-Greg Jones and QB-Chris Rix, both, played in that (28-27) game vs Miami. Greg rushed for 190 yds vs Miami, and tore his ACL later that year. Rix was ineligible for the Sugar Bowl. I would think those two guys would make a difference vs Georgia.
cajun
09-26-2007, 04:05 PM
Think about it... Georgia rushed the ball 36 times, while FSU rushed the ball 41 times. And... FSU was leading Georgia, 6 mins before halftime, when their 3rd/4th String QB threw an int that was returned for td. Georgia had a THOUSAND opportunities to score on offense, but were continously held to fg's. FSU simply had no QB, or this may have been a much closer game. (Not saying Rix mattered THAT much!)
It's just insane to say an offense, that only scored 1 td, would've scored 40 or 50 on FSU. If they could've.. they would've.
Btw, Starting RB-Greg Jones and QB-Chris Rix, both, played in that (28-27) game vs Miami. Greg rushed for 190 yds vs Miami, and tore his ACL later that year. Rix was ineligible for the Sugar Bowl. I would think those two guys would make a difference vs Georgia.
Maybe-just maybe Georgia was faced with some 3rd and 6 situations...Ran the ball instead of passing...Picked up 5 1/2 yards-then decided to kick the field goal(x 4 or 5 times)...:D
Georgia was very conservative
cajun
09-26-2007, 05:10 PM
From ncaafootball.com
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· 01/02/2003
Win Over FSU is Sugary Sweet for Georgia
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Georgia wasn't satisfied just making it to the Sugar Bowl. The Bulldogs wanted to finish their memorable season in style.
Consider it done.
Bruce Thornton returned an interception for a touchdown, backup quarterback D.J. Shockley tossed a scoring pass and No. 4 Georgia stymied a shorthanded Florida State team for a 26-13 victory Wednesday night.
Billy Bennett kicked four field goals and MVP Musa Smith rushed for 145 yards as the Bulldogs went conservative, throwing a season-low 15 passes. All they had to do was let Fabian Walker, making his first start at quarterback for the 16th-ranked Seminoles, beat himself.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 06:35 PM
From ncaafootball.com
Return to
· 01/02/2003
Win Over FSU is Sugary Sweet for Georgia
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Georgia wasn't satisfied just making it to the Sugar Bowl. The Bulldogs wanted to finish their memorable season in style.
Consider it done.
Bruce Thornton returned an interception for a touchdown, backup quarterback D.J. Shockley tossed a scoring pass and No. 4 Georgia stymied a shorthanded Florida State team for a 26-13 victory Wednesday night.
Billy Bennett kicked four field goals and MVP Musa Smith rushed for 145 yards as the Bulldogs went conservative, throwing a season-low 15 passes. All they had to do was let Fabian Walker, making his first start at quarterback for the 16th-ranked Seminoles, beat himself.
I would say FSU went conservative, running the ball 41 times, but.. they didn't have their #1 RB or QB, so what else were they going to do? Georgia can say what they want, but I don't want anyone to tell me they could put up 40 to 50 pts on someone, when they only scored 1 offensive td. You play to win the game... and Georgia just wanted to be conservative?? They wanted a close, low scoring game??
Btw.. Shockley played in 10 games, in 2002, and completed 32 of 52 passes (61.5%) for 615 yards with 5 TDs and 2 interceptions. He rushed for 111 yards and 2 more TDs. He wasn't a 3rd or 4th string QB (or converted WR). He was an experienced QB.
Also.. via ESPN: "Richt inserted quarterback D.J. Shockley for starter David Greene in the second quarter with Georgia trailing 7-3."
Starting QB-Greene threw 14 passes.
cajun
09-26-2007, 07:21 PM
[FONT="Times New Roman"][SIZE="4"] You play to win the game... and Georgia just wanted to be conservative?? They wanted a close, low scoring game??
I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about what Coach Richt wanted or didn't want in the Sugar Bowl against Florida State...
It is very possible that Coach Richt wanted a Georgia blow out and to put 50 or 60 on Florida State....
My best guess though is he probably wanted a win of any sort...
I did not attend the game or watch on television...
Someone here said that they attended the game and that Georgia was conservative...This has been verified by myself from several different sources...
So, in conclusion...
What's the problem???...:D
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 07:59 PM
I'm an educated man, but I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently about what Coach Richt wanted or didn't want in the Sugar Bowl against Florida State...
It is very possible that Coach Richt wanted a Georgia blow out and to put 50 or 60 on Florida State....
My best guess though is he probably wanted a win of any sort...
I did not attend the game or watch on television...
Someone here said that they attended the game and that Georgia was conservative...This has been verified by myself from several different sources...
So, in conclusion...
What's the problem???...:D
Never said there was a problem. I guess it seems both teams were conservative or restrained in some way. The reasoning, we'll never know.
jtk1519
09-26-2007, 08:01 PM
ou sucks
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 08:05 PM
ou sucks
So does jtk.
jtk1519
09-26-2007, 08:25 PM
So does jtk.
Not for cheap.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-26-2007, 08:50 PM
Not for cheap.
LOL. Good one.
pack0808
09-27-2007, 12:51 AM
Wow I have heard it all now! So Georgia would have killed both Ohio St. and Miami in 02 even though that very same Georgia team lost to a 5 loss Florida team who lost to both Michigan and Miami that very same year? Ohio st beat both Michigan and Miami that very same year! Ok?? LOL And then he goes on to support a statement that Georgia could have scored a zillion more points on fla st in the bowl game that year if they wanted to? :rolleyes: okie dokie!
cajun, I try to get along with you man and you seem like a logical guy at times but the SEC love affiar makes you a little delusional. :eek:
pack0808
09-27-2007, 12:56 AM
Actually, what was said was this....I was at that Sugar Bowl game and Georgia could easily have scored 40 or 50 in that game. Richt played the game very conservative, they barely threw the ball just pounded it up the middle anf FSU couldn't stop a dang thing.
That stats pretty prove his point....
Georgia ran the ball 36 times for almost 160 yards and only threw it 15 times completing 10 of those passes for 125...Very conservative for a bowl game....
Florida St threw it almost 30 times...
Of course that's the same 9-5 Florida St team that got beat by #1 Miami 28-27 at the time....Florida St had almost 400 total yards and 25 First Downs against Miami.... Greg Jones for Florida State rushed for almost 200 yards against Miami....
Florida St missed a field goal-a chippy at 43 yards...Florida St makes it Miami ain't in the title game....
Bottom line...
Georgia crushes both of those lucky teams of 2002...Miami and Ohio State....
And yet that same 5 loss team Florida team that Georgia lost to got destroyed by Miami? Georgia could not destroy a 5-7 team in SC that year when they won 13-7 but they would have destroyed both Miami and Ohio St that year? WTF man?
cajun
09-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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And yet that same 5 loss team Florida team that Georgia lost to got destroyed by Miami? Georgia could not destroy a 5-7 team in SC that year when they won 13-7 but they would have destroyed both Miami and Ohio St that year? WTF man?
That's right...You got it figured out...:D
pack0808
09-27-2007, 01:39 PM
That's right...You got it figured out...:D
I am just going to start saying ok if you say so man for now on ok? ;)
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