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Oiler1
09-29-2005, 08:20 AM
The game was re-scheduled for this Friday night but is still at the rig. IMHO, Pearland will win this one but probably only by a touchdown. This will be a battle between two running teams. If Blow is stopped cold, Pearland wins. By the same token if Whittaker is stopped then Lake has a shot. Unfortunately for Lake this will probably come down to the stronger defense and the Rig is not favorable turf to play Pearland since only North Shore has beaten Pearland in the Rig.

Lake will have a tough schedule over the next 9 days having to play 3 games. If they get nicked up at all they could fall to Brazoswood (gets 1 more day to prepare for Lake because they play tonight) Tuesday or fall to a starved for a win Creek the following Saturday. Creek only has 2 games because the hurricane was their off week and will have more time to heal and prepare for the rivalry game (very young team Sophmore QB).

Lots of tough schedules in 24-5A over the next 9 days. I think Galveston Ball and Pearland have the most favorable lineups and this condensed schedule helps the stronger defensive teams because the offenses will be out of sink.

So what are all of your thoughts and opinions on this?

Fleeman93
09-29-2005, 08:21 AM
Pearland will have no problem at all in this one.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 09:04 AM
I've seen both Pearland and Clear Lake play!

This game will be close! Whitaker, while he is good RB, still doesn't have a SOLID team around him. I saw Pearland play Elkins and Pearland looked much better than Elkins, but Elkins looked horrible. Lake has, overall, the better group of athletes.

Pearland does have, though, this mammoth lineman...I think he's 6'5 305, or something! He's solid.

It's up in the air. Plus I think we will start to see more consistant play out of Lake. Especially is Blow can just shut his "cocky" mouth and play!!

Fleeman93
09-29-2005, 09:22 AM
Pearland by 17 at least.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 09:25 AM
Pearland by 17 at least.

It may just be me watching these teams personally, but I just don't by into Pearland, yet. Good RB, but what else do they have?

Lake CAN beat Pearland!

Fleeman93
09-29-2005, 09:28 AM
I have not seen Clear Lake play this year, but I did get to see Pearland play against Memorial. I don't think Pearland is a great team, but I do think they are better than Lake. I guess I am basing my assumption off of opponents each team has played.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 09:59 AM
I have not seen Clear Lake play this year, but I did get to see Pearland play against Memorial. I don't think Pearland is a great team, but I do think they are better than Lake. I guess I am basing my assumption off of opponents each team has played.

Clear Lake has played...

La Porte - 3-0........Lake lost by 1 point, 35-34
Tomball - 2-2...decent.
Katy Taylor - 2-1....easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in 19-5A, behind Katy and Strake J
Baytown Lee - 0-3 (Lost to Dobie -3-0, Strake -3-0, Clear Lake 2-2)...so go figure!

Pearland has played...

Kempner - 3-1...hands down the best team Pearland has played....but they only have a total offensive production of 748 yards in 4 games!
Elkins - 2-2....horrid...surprised they've won anything.
Memorial - 0-3...beyond horrid
Victoria Memorial - 0-4....there's no name for such a horrid team.

Clear Lake has definitely played tougher opponents. And out of all the teams on here Clear Lake has gotten the most offensive production with 1540 yds. And that's more than Pearland has...and against better opponents than Pearland's opponents!

I think Lake has a very good chance at beating Pearland, simply because, by far, they're the best team Pearland has faced so far.

dada
09-29-2005, 10:07 AM
Clear Lake has played...

La Porte - 3-0........Lake lost by 1 point, 35-34
Tomball - 2-2...decent.
Katy Taylor - 2-1....easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in 19-5A, behind Katy and Strake J
Baytown Lee - 0-3 (Lost to Dobie -3-0, Strake -3-0, Clear Lake 2-2)...so go figure!

Pearland has played...

Kempner - 3-1...hands down the best team Pearland has played....but they only have a total offensive production of 748 yards in 4 games!
Elkins - 2-2....horrid...surprised they've won anything.
Memorial - 0-3...beyond horrid
Victoria Memorial - 0-4....there's no name for such a horrid team.

Clear Lake has definitely played tougher opponents. And out of all the teams on here Clear Lake has gotten the most offensive production with 1540 yds. And that's more than Pearland has...and against better opponents than Pearland's opponents!

I think Lake has a very good chance at beating Pearland, simply because, by far, they're the best team Pearland has faced so far.

I agree with everything you said except for a few things....
Taylor will probably be the 4th or 5th best in their district...dont count out Elsik and Alief Taylor
Memorial, like the Oakland raiders are better than the record indicated

Fleeman93
09-29-2005, 10:12 AM
I will be very surprised if Memorial doesn't win that district and make the playoffs. Only time will tell, but I think Memorial is the best team of all the opponents listed.

La Porte - No defense at all.
Tomball - Who knows how good they are yet?
Katy Taylor - Saying they are third best in this district isn't saying much at all.
Baytown Lee - Don't know a thing about them.

Pearland has played...

Kempner - Although it was a scrimage, they looked bad against Katy.
Elkins - No surprise that they are bad.
Memorial - When it is all said and done you will be surprised.
Victoria Memorial - Just bad.

dada
09-29-2005, 10:18 AM
I will be very surprised if Memorial doesn't win that district and make the playoffs. Only time will tell, but I think Memorial is the best team of all the opponents listed.

La Porte - No defense at all.
Tomball - Who knows how good they are yet?
Katy Taylor - Saying they are third best in this district isn't saying much at all.
Baytown Lee - Don't know a thing about them.

Pearland has played...

Kempner - Although it was a scrimage, they looked bad against Katy.
Elkins - No surprise that they are bad.
Memorial - When it is all said and done you will be surprised.
Victoria Memorial - Just bad.
Yeah...they lost to Hightower by 1
lost to Pearland and Westfield.

Memorial might finish the regular season by winning their next 7 games.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 10:45 AM
I think we're all missing the point of the post...Pearland vs Clear Lake.

Lake has played better, overall, opponents and gained a total offensive production of 1540 yds. Better than Pearland or any of the 2's opponents.

La Porte has no defense?!!!.......they've forced 98 pts to 63, given up, and 34 of those 63 came from Lake. Oh, and Memorial, whom you guys are pushing as the comeback story of the year....has ALLOWED 73 pts, while only forcing a measly 28!

Fact is, people are selling Lake down the river, when Lake looks to be one of the more solid teams in the area.

Oh, and another thing.....19-5A's....Top 3

Strake has forced 118 to 40 (3-0)
Katy has forced 100 to 33 (3-0)
K Taylor has forced 51 to 31 (2-1)

..total 269 to 101....avg...30.1 to 11.2...that's pretty good to me. I mean it's no Euless Trinity, but it's light years away from Memorial.

If Pearland had played Lake's schedule, and vice versa,...Lake would be 4-0 and Pearland 2-2...maybe 3-1!

We'll see tomorrow! No doubt, both teams are good teams, and tomorrow will be a good game!

The LAKE vs PEARLAND @ THE PIT, 7:00 PM.....kt2000, I think you guys put this game as being played tonight. Go to Clear Lake's home page for the update...they've switched it to tomorrow night! www.clearlakefootball.com

dada
09-29-2005, 10:52 AM
I think we're all missing the point of the post...Pearland vs Clear Lake.

Lake has played better, overall, opponents and gained a total offensive production of 1540 yds. Better than Pearland or any of the 2's opponents.

La Porte has no defense?!!!.......they've forced 98 pts to 63, given up, and 34 of those 63 came from Lake. Oh, and Memorial, whom you guys are pushing as the comeback story of the year....has ALLOWED 73 pts, while only forcing a measly 28!

Fact is, people are selling Lake down the river, when Lake looks to be one of the more solid teams in the area.

Oh, and another thing.....19-5A's....Top 3

Strake has forced 118 to 40 (3-0)
Katy has forced 100 to 33 (3-0)
K Taylor has forced 51 to 31 (2-1)

..total 269 to 101....avg...30.1 to 11.2...that's pretty good to me. I mean it's no Euless Trinity, but it's light years away from Memorial.

If Pearland had played Lake's schedule, and vice versa,...Lake would be 4-0 and Pearland 2-2...maybe 3-1!

We'll see tomorrow! No doubt, both teams are good teams, and tomorrow will be a good game!

The LAKE vs PEARLAND @ THE PIT, 7:00 PM.....kt2000, I think you guys put this game as being played tonight. Go to Clear Lake's home page for the update...they've switched it to tomorrow night! www.clearlakefootball.com
Memorial was SHUT OUT by Westfield,
Strake and Katy Taylor hasnt played anybody...Memorial beats them both.

Close game...Pearland pulls it out at the Rig.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 11:03 AM
Memorial was SHUT OUT by Westfield,
Strake and Katy Taylor hasnt played anybody...Memorial beats them both.

Close game...Pearland pulls it out at the Rig.

Personally, I don't think Memorial could BEAT a drum, but that's just me!

I'm pullin' for Lake! But I'll be pulling for both Lake and Pearland in the playoffs. Oh, and Ball High!!

Don't get me wrong....I like this Whitaker kid. But I'm hooked on this Lake squad! Followed them all last year! And what a year it was!

dada
09-29-2005, 11:06 AM
Personally, I don't think Memorial could BEAT a drum, but that's just me!

I'm pullin' for Lake! But I'll be pulling for both Lake and Pearland in the playoffs. Oh, and Ball High!!

Don't get me wrong....I like this Whitaker kid. But I'm hooked on this Lake squad! Followed them all last year! And what a year it was!
Memorial will win their district.....

As for Lake....take away the Baytown Lee game and I'm not that impressed...especially giving up 35+ back to back. I think whoever has the ball last will when this game.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 11:16 AM
Memorial will win their district.....

As for Lake....take away the Baytown Lee game and I'm not that impressed...especially giving up 35+ back to back. I think whoever has the ball last will when this game.

Yeah, I agree, for the most part. But I think if Pearland had played Lake's schedule Pearland would of given up the same points, if not more. And lost at least once.

I'm sorry but Pearland's schedule is horrible!!

The defense and time of possession will be key, here. It's up in the air! I disagree with some of the people who have stated Pearland will blow Lake out.

This game will be very close...and ultimately can go either way!

Oiler1
09-29-2005, 12:35 PM
Yeah, I agree, for the most part. But I think if Pearland had played Lake's schedule Pearland would of given up the same points, if not more. And lost at least once.

I'm sorry but Pearland's schedule is horrible!!



I take exception to the schedule issue because Memorial started 0-3 last year and won their district. Most likely will do so again because they play a tough non-district schedule. Hightower has a good squad just learning a new offense (more speed than Lake has ever had). Elkins is average and yes Victoria Memorial is horrid.

But Lake has played very poor teams that have terrible defenses. Tomball and Taylor were the two toughest defenses and Gilmer coughed the ball up way to much. Neither will make the playoffs out of their districts. La Portes defense is horrid and Baytown Lee might as well have played their Freshman on "D".

Stat most over looked here is the team defense.
Team Rush Pass Tot Avg. Games
Pearland 417 381 798 199.5 4
Clear Lake 741 590 1331 332.75 4
This is why I believe Pearland wins by 7, especially since they only allow 100 yds on average per game on the rush. Can you say the same for Lake?

Offense is a wash even giving Lake the Baytown stats.
Team Rush Pass Tot Avg. Games
Clear Lake 1347 174 1521 380.3 4
Pearland 1295 132 1427 356.8 4

I take back my earlier statement that Pearland has a favorable 9 day schedule because they play 3 games against district contenders finishing at Galveston Ball. Galveston Ball gets the best deal out of this and may win district with only having to play 2 games in the same time frame. Lake's schedule is also tough with 3 games but 2 of those teams have losing records.

FLAGator
09-29-2005, 04:48 PM
Lake has definitely been tested in the four games leading up to Friday nite's ballgame. All four games were tough - even the Baytown Lee game where Lake needed a strong second half to run away with the game. Lake has shown the potential to be dominate on offense and defense and also to be average.

Lake's offense makes defenses play honest by truly running a triple option - so keying on Geno just means he doesn't get a big number of carries. Tomball was able to slow the Lake attack in the first half but that was due more to an offense not being ready for the type of defense Tomball ran and first game jitters. The offense move pretty well against Laporte, Baytown Lee, and even Katy Taylor - eliminate the mistakes and Lake takes over the Laporte and Katy game. So offensively, the key is to play as close to error free as possible and Lake will score!

Defensively, Lake has been solid most of the time - but they have struggled against the pass though at crucial times against Laporte and Katy. Stop a couple of third and longs and Lake is 4-0. So defensively, the key is to make sure the tight end is covered on third and longs.

Pearland looks to play dominate defense and a conservative offense that attempts to wear the defense down. Lake must key on Whitaker and slow him down and force Pearland to do what they haven't done all year - go to someone else.

Prediction:
This will be a short ballgame - all of Lake's games are short.
Geno will bust at least one long run in the first half and Gilmer will a long pass for TD. Gilmer will carry the ball 20 -25 times and keep the chains moving and Pearlands defense will wear down in the second half with Geno getting at least one more long run.
The defense will hold Whitaker to less than a hundred yards and two touchdowns.

Final: Lake 28 - Pearland 14 :)

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 04:58 PM
Lake has definitely been tested in the four games leading up to Friday nite's ballgame. All four games were tough - even the Baytown Lee game where Lake needed a strong second half to run away with the game. Lake has shown the potential to be dominate on offense and defense and also to be average.

Lake's offense makes defenses play honest by truly running a triple option - so keying on Geno just means he doesn't get a big number of carries. Tomball was able to slow the Lake attack in the first half but that was due more to an offense not being ready for the type of defense Tomball ran and first game jitters. The offense move pretty well against Laporte, Baytown Lee, and even Katy Taylor - eliminate the mistakes and Lake takes over the Laporte and Katy game. So offensively, the key is to play as close to error free as possible and Lake will score!

Defensively, Lake has been solid most of the time - but they have struggled against the pass though at crucial times against Laporte and Katy. Stop a couple of third and longs and Lake is 4-0. So defensively, the key is to make sure the tight end is covered on third and longs.

Pearland looks to play dominate defense and a conservative offense that attempts to wear the defense down. Lake must key on Whitaker and slow him down and force Pearland to do what they haven't done all year - go to someone else.

Prediction:
This will be a short ballgame - all of Lake's games are short.
Geno will bust at least one long run in the first half and Gilmer will a long pass for TD. Gilmer will carry the ball 20 -25 times and keep the chains moving and Pearlands defense will wear down in the second half with Geno getting at least one more long run.
The defense will hold Whitaker to less than a hundred yards and two touchdowns.

Final: Lake 28 - Pearland 14 :)

I agree! The game will be as close as 14 pts and can go either way. Personally I think Lake wins it!

waterboy
09-29-2005, 07:48 PM
im also going for lake!

Oiler1
09-29-2005, 09:06 PM
Wow....seems like its 3 to 1 in favor of Lake kicking the crud out of Pearland. Especially if you pick Lake to win by 14 or more. I would have thought there would be a little more respect for Pearland than that. Geno is probably predicting a 300 yard night as well.
Just have to let this one play out and see whose prediction is right.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-29-2005, 09:08 PM
Wow....seems like its 3 to 1 in favor of Lake kicking the crud out of Pearland. Especially if you pick Lake to win by 14 or more. I would have thought there would be a little more respect for Pearland than that. Geno is probably predicting a 300 yard night as well.
Just have to let this one play out and see whose prediction is right.

See yeah there!! :D

Oiler99
09-29-2005, 11:29 PM
Well personally i think yall are flat out nuts if you think that a combonation of laporte tomball katy taylor and baytown lee are better overall than Kempner Memorial Vict. Memorial and Elkins. Elkins is as weak as tomball. Victoria as Byatown. but Kempner would top laporte and memorial over taylor.


3 reason pearland will win

1.Whittaker will run all over lakes sorry defense. if he gets stopped its Speciale, and Bradley to pick it up.

2.Tex henry is goin to shut down the dive back. sry this means no 300 yd game for geno.

3. Lakes punt team is horrible and pearlands already blocked four kicks this yr.
ex.(Laporte Game)

ktCarl
09-30-2005, 07:20 AM
Lake wasn't impressive against Katy Taylor. Taylor looked to have a good defense.
Lake fans: Was that an untypical game against Taylor? I couldn't tell if Lake was just not very good that night or Taylor was up 'cause it was their Homecoming game.
Pearland will win if the Lake plays like it did against Katy Taylor.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 07:31 AM
Well personally i think yall are flat out nuts if you think that a combonation of laporte tomball katy taylor and baytown lee are better overall than Kempner Memorial Vict. Memorial and Elkins. Elkins is as weak as tomball. Victoria as Byatown. but Kempner would top laporte and memorial over taylor.


3 reason pearland will win

1.Whittaker will run all over lakes sorry defense. if he gets stopped its Speciale, and Bradley to pick it up.

2.Tex henry is goin to shut down the dive back. sry this means no 300 yd game for geno.

3. Lakes punt team is horrible and pearlands already blocked four kicks this yr.
ex.(Laporte Game)

Again lets stress stats...NOT OPINIONS....

Clear Lake has played...

La Porte - 3-0........Lake lost by 1 point, 35-34
Tomball - 2-2...decent.
Katy Taylor - 2-1....easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in 19-5A, behind Katy and Strake J
Baytown Lee - 0-3 (Lost to Dobie -3-0, Strake -3-0, Clear Lake 2-2)...so go figure!

.....combined win/loss...7-6

Pearland has played...

Kempner - 3-1...hands down the best team Pearland has played....but they only have a total offensive production of 748 yards in 4 games!
Elkins - 2-2....horrid...surprised they've won anything.
Memorial - 0-3...beyond horrid..wishful thinking to believe they're any good. So what if they win their weak a** district. Who cares? They still suck!
Victoria Memorial - 0-4....there's no name for such a horrid team.

.....combined win/loss....5-10

And getting back on your beloved Memorial, which obviously makes you guys feel as if you've proved yourseflves, they've only forced 28 pts to 73, given up. Right now they're in 7th place in district behind...Nimitz, Stratford, Aldine, Mac, Ike and Spring Woods. THEY SUCK!

La Porte was blown out, last night to NS. NORTH SHORE!!!!! Besides that they blew out the #2 team in Memorial's district ALDINE HIGH...42-10.

Look we can sit here and fire back and forth but.....

To me, and many others, Clear Lake has definitely played tougher opponents. And out of all the teams on here Clear Lake has gotten the most offensive production with 1540 yds. And that's more than Pearland has...and against better opponents than Pearland's opponents!

Lake clearly has a good chance at beating Pearland!

Fleeman93
09-30-2005, 08:01 AM
Again lets stress stats...NOT OPINIONS....

Clear Lake has played...

La Porte - 3-0........Lake lost by 1 point, 35-34
Tomball - 2-2...decent.
Katy Taylor - 2-1....easily the 2nd or 3rd best team in 19-5A, behind Katy and Strake J
Baytown Lee - 0-3 (Lost to Dobie -3-0, Strake -3-0, Clear Lake 2-2)...so go figure!

.....combined win/loss...7-6

Pearland has played...
Kempner - 3-1...hands down the best team Pearland has played....but they only have a total offensive production of 748 yards in 4 games!
Elkins - 2-2....horrid...surprised they've won anything.
Memorial - 0-3...beyond horrid..wishful thinking to believe they're any good. So what if they win their weak a** district. Who cares? They still suck!
Victoria Memorial - 0-4....there's no name for such a horrid team.

.....combined win/loss....5-10

And getting back on your beloved Memorial, which obviously makes you guys feel as if you've proved yourseflves, they've only forced 28 pts to 73, given up. Right now they're in 7th place in district behind...Nimitz, Stratford, Aldine, Mac, Ike and Spring Woods. THEY SUCK!

La Porte was blown out, last night to NS. NORTH SHORE!!!!! Besides that they blew out the #2 team in Memorial's district ALDINE HIGH...42-10.

Look we can sit here and fire back and forth but.....

To me, and many others, Clear Lake has definitely played tougher opponents. And out of all the teams on here Clear Lake has gotten the most offensive production with 1540 yds. And that's more than Pearland has...and against better opponents than Pearland's opponents!

Lake clearly has a good chance at beating Pearland!


As I said before, Memorial is the best team on that list other than Pearland. Memorial would beat any team on that list other than Pearland. Just because Memorial has played a tougher schedule than anyone on that list and don't have great numbers to show for it, doesn't mean they aren't good. Lake lost to an average, at best, Katy Taylor team.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 08:35 AM
As I said before, Memorial is the best team on that list other than Pearland. Memorial would beat any team on that list other than Pearland. Just because Memorial has played a tougher schedule than anyone on that list and don't have great numbers to show for it, doesn't mean they aren't good. Lake lost to an average, at best, Katy Taylor team.

We'll see tonight! Stats or no stats! All I'm saying is Lake has a better chance at playing against, and beating Pearland than some have given them!

And I'll be there in person to see who brings their a-game!

Oiler1
09-30-2005, 08:54 AM
Again lets stress stats...NOT OPINIONS....

To me, and many others, Clear Lake has definitely played tougher opponents. And out of all the teams on here Clear Lake has gotten the most offensive production with 1540 yds. And that's more than Pearland has...and against better opponents than Pearland's opponents!

Lake clearly has a good chance at beating Pearland!

Ok stats it is.....Clear Lake has allowed opponents to gain over 1331 yards of offense and allowing 101 points to be scored. Pearland has only allowed 798 yards and given up 49 points. Thats a huge difference.

Offensively Lake skewed the stats against Baytown Lee who has absolutely NO defense and was winning in the 3rd quarter. But even there Lake has 1521 yards (675 from Lee Game a WHOPPING 50% OF TOTAL OFFENSE ), while Pearland has 1427 total yards of offense (94 yards difference). You do the math, it doesn't take calculus to figure out which stats are better on paper.

That said, see ya there tonight. Should be a great game!

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 09:12 AM
Ok stats it is.....Clear Lake has allowed opponents to gain over 1331 yards of offense and allowing 101 points to be scored. Pearland has only allowed 798 yards and given up 49 points. Thats a huge difference.

Offensively Lake skewed the stats against Baytown Lee who has absolutely NO defense and was winning in the 3rd quarter. But even there Lake has 1521 yards (675 from Lee Game a WHOPPING 50% OF TOTAL OFFENSE ), while Pearland has 1427 total yards of offense (94 yards difference). You do the math, it doesn't take calculus to figure out which stats are better on paper.

That said, see ya there tonight. Should be a great game!

Easy comeback here.......

My point, this entire time, has been that Lake has played tougher opponents. Therefore I can assume Pearland would have kept their weaker opponents from scoring more and producing more offensively.

That said, see ya there tonight. Should be a great game!

Fleeman93
09-30-2005, 09:27 AM
I would be willing to say that Pearland beats Lake by at least double what they beat Memorial by, which would be 16 (18-7).

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 09:29 AM
I would be willing to say that Pearland beats Lake by at least double what they beat Memorial by, which would be 16 (18-7).

I would be willing to say they don't!

I think it's close....Lake wins it!

Fleeman93
09-30-2005, 09:33 AM
Lake will not win this game.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 09:34 AM
Lake will not win this game.

We'll see!

theallmightyfatone
09-30-2005, 06:30 PM
LAKE Will win lake has played muxh better team than pearland and plus GENO BlOW WILL have 2 big run for a TD :)

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 09:56 PM
Just got back from the game....

Clear Lake 3
Pearland 14

Neither team looked impressive tonight. Both teams were in each other's redzone 3 times. Pearland fumbled and Clear Lake made horrible mistakes and calls!!

Pearland played better, and probably is better, overall - especially defensively, but they are not a GREAT TEAM. I don't see them in the Top 15, in state. Perhaps, definitely, the Top 20-25.

They may make a run in the playoffs, depending on who they play against.

Fleeman93
09-30-2005, 10:16 PM
I was off by 5. My bad!

Oiler1
09-30-2005, 10:23 PM
Just got back from the game....

Clear Lake 3
Pearland 14

Neither team looked impressive tonight. Both teams were in each other's redzone 3 times. Pearland fumbled and Clear Lake made horrible mistakes and calls!!

Pearland played better, and probably is better, overall - especially defensively, but they are not a GREAT TEAM. I don't see them in the Top 15, in state. Perhaps, definitely, the Top 20-25.

They may make a run in the playoffs, depending on who they play against.

Just can't accept that Pearland has played better oponents and Gilmer is terrible yet? Geez, even when your precious Lake gets knocked off you still want to rationalize the loss. Face it, without Oswald and Jones Lake is terrible. Like I said before the defensive stat was going to bite Lake in the butt and it did. Geno, Gilmer, Feaster and Clark were shut down (no speed outside). Gilmer throwing 2 picks and making mistakes as usual set the tone for your rationalizing the loss ("without the mistakes we would win"...lots of teams can say that). Whitaker rushing 186 yards and would have had over 250 without the holding penalty, either way Lake could not stop him.

Bottom line is that Pearland controlled this game from start to finish with Lake only able to manage a measely field goal. Heck even your so called HORRID reference to Memorial and Victoria Memorial holds no water because at least they scored a touchdown. All I have to say is read the stats not the tea leaves.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 10:32 PM
I was off by 5. My bad!

I told you guys it would be close. It was 7-3 until the last 5 minutes or so. Both teams marched up the field farely easy. It was obvious, however, Pearland's back, Whitaker, was pretty good....and their defense was better. But Lake hung with them. Both teams made mistakes...Lake made more. I think I saw 4 passes, combined from both teams, all night. Pearland never passed.

Neither team will contend for the title, but Pearland is better than Lake.

However, Lake isn't far away. They need a better coached O-Line and a better running option. They also need to open up with the pass. Lake's defense has heart....but they're not utilized the right way. I saw a number kids that played out of position.

Anyhow...I look forward to the Ball High and Pearland game.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 10:39 PM
Just can't accept that Pearland has played better oponents and Gilmer is terrible yet? Geez, even when your precious Lake gets knocked off you still want to rationalize the loss. Face it, without Oswald and Jones Lake is terrible. Like I said before the defensive stat was going to bite Lake in the butt and it did. Geno, Gilmer, Feaster and Clark were shut down (no speed outside). Gilmer throwing 2 picks and making mistakes as usual set the tone for your rationalizing the loss ("without the mistakes we would win"...lots of teams can say that). Whitaker rushing 186 yards and would have had over 250 without the holding penalty, either way Lake could not stop him.

Bottom line is that Pearland controlled this game from start to finish with Lake only able to manage a measely field goal. Heck even your so called HORRID reference to Memorial and Victoria Memorial holds no water because at least they scored a touchdown. All I have to say is read the stats not the tea leaves.

Son...first off, Lake's not my team...my team would destroy both Pearland and Lake. EASILY!!!

Secondly...neither TEAM was that impressive, PERIOD! Whitaker is a good back, but a solid d would destroy that offense. Especially since I have yet to see Pearland open up their offense with a pass.

Katy, Westfield, North Shore, and a few other HOUSTON area teams would hammer Pearland.

Oh, and don't come up NORTH...where I played ball....Euless Trinity, SLC, SGP, Dallas Carter, Garland, Ennis, Highland Park, Stephenville..would start their 3rd stringers and kill YOUR precious Pearland.

Oh, and Lake still played better opponents!

Oiler99
09-30-2005, 11:14 PM
Hands down pearland won. If you dont think the score shows it its just becuase the clock never stopped and there was less than ten combined possesions all night.


Oh yeah i think its about time all this geno is god talk ends since hes finally played a half way decent defense and still didnt manage 60 yds. better yet the 300 yall promised. Oh yeah and a little stat since yall are so big on them.

YOur big three of Gilmer BLow and Feaster combined 32 carries for a pitiful 167 yds. compared to whittakers 20 carries for 186 yd without the 60 yd called back touchdown. Its about time we recognize the true all state back.

And if you say our offense is lopsided its becuase we had the lead and we kept the clock rollin why show our pass offense when we didnt need it. Now no one knows what to expect in the future pass wise.

But i will give Lake credit for heart. every play the runners found the way to get all the could. it jus seem like this game was overall played to loosely with no enthusiam by either team especially pearland.

ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2005, 11:23 PM
Hands down pearland won. If you dont think the score shows it its just becuase the clock never stopped and there was less than ten combined possesions all night.


Oh yeah i think its about time all this geno is god talk ends since hes finally played a half way decent defense and still didnt manage 60 yds. better yet the 300 yall promised. Oh yeah and a little stat since yall are so big on them.

YOur big three of Gilmer BLow and Feaster combined 32 carries for a pitiful 167 yds. compared to whittakers 20 carries for 186 yd without the 60 yd called back touchdown. Its about time we recognize the true all state back.

And if you say our offense is lopsided its becuase we had the lead and we kept the clock rollin why show our pass offense when we didnt need it. Now no one knows what to expect in the future pass wise.

But i will give Lake credit for heart. every play the runners found the way to get all the could. it jus seem like this game was overall played to loosely with no enthusiam by either team especially pearland.

That's my point I really didn't see much enthusiasm from either squad. I'm anxious to see Pearland bring their A-Game to a top tier opponent. I would definitely like to see them play Katy or Westfield...or North Shore.

Lake needs alot of work, but they're not that far behind.

Whitaker is a very good back. Can't wait to see him mature, and play some real good competition. Could go down as an all-time great.

The game was close...as I predicted. I thought Lake had more to bring to the table, tonight....they didn't bring much. But, then again, Pearland seemed to play a little flat, as well.

Pearland seems like a team that plays JUST up to it's opponents. Well, it's gonna have to play ALL OUT when the play-offs come rollin in!

Oh...and I never...ever....ever...claimed this Geno Blow kid. I'm not even from Houston...from up in Northeast Texas.

I just call them the way I see them. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong. Hey, sue me!

dd90
09-30-2005, 11:38 PM
Amazing, reading the posts you guys keep firing at each other. I sit back and read the remarks and try to decide if you are players, parents, or coach wanna be's. With a score of 14 - 3, I don't see how you can determine one team is so much better than the other. It seems pretty evenly matched to me. And to compare schedules seems equally silly. To degrade specific players (what if that was your son?), coaching calls (did you spend hours in the coach's office designing the calls and plays?) and team effort seems all out ridiculous! On any given night that score could have been reversed, that's why it is called High School football. Congratulations to Pearland and Lake for a hard played game! I can guarantee that there is not a coach or player on either side that wishes they hadn't done something differently!

Ex Buff
10-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Amazing, reading the posts you guys keep firing at each other. I sit back and read the remarks and try to decide if you are players, parents, or coach wanna be's. With a score of 14 - 3, I don't see how you can determine one team is so much better than the other. It seems pretty evenly matched to me. And to compare schedules seems equally silly. To degrade specific players (what if that was your son?), coaching calls (did you spend hours in the coach's office designing the calls and plays?) and team effort seems all out ridiculous! On any given night that score could have been reversed, that's why it is called High School football. Congratulations to Pearland and Lake for a hard played game! I can guarantee that there is not a coach or player on either side that wishes they hadn't done something differently!
This was a grudge match - no matter who posted mom, dad, brother, cousin, etc - this game was on. Much like the Judson/SV game this was a grudge match and Pearland won. I applaud this board for picking Pearland 25th in state and hope to see them do some damage in the post season.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-01-2005, 07:58 AM
Amazing, reading the posts you guys keep firing at each other. I sit back and read the remarks and try to decide if you are players, parents, or coach wanna be's. With a score of 14 - 3, I don't see how you can determine one team is so much better than the other. It seems pretty evenly matched to me. And to compare schedules seems equally silly. To degrade specific players (what if that was your son?), coaching calls (did you spend hours in the coach's office designing the calls and plays?) and team effort seems all out ridiculous! On any given night that score could have been reversed, that's why it is called High School football. Congratulations to Pearland and Lake for a hard played game! I can guarantee that there is not a coach or player on either side that wishes they hadn't done something differently!

Player..with over 20 yrs of experience. (hs, college and pro.)

Amazing for you to come on here and say all that stuff...when you were on here before the Pearland vs Lake game.

I guarantee there is a coach and a player, and they probably coach and play for Lake, that wishes they did do something differently. That's just the mind of a competitive athlete. I lost....but man what if I didn't trip on 3rd and 3 to go?...or what if I would of put more air under my passes?

This is the nature of sports....ex-players, wanna be coaches...stat "boys"...it's all the same when talking about match-ups!

Oiler1
10-01-2005, 09:01 AM
Amazing, reading the posts you guys keep firing at each other. I sit back and read the remarks and try to decide if you are players, parents, or coach wanna be's. With a score of 14 - 3, I don't see how you can determine one team is so much better than the other. It seems pretty evenly matched to me. And to compare schedules seems equally silly. To degrade specific players (what if that was your son?), coaching calls (did you spend hours in the coach's office designing the calls and plays?) and team effort seems all out ridiculous! On any given night that score could have been reversed, that's why it is called High School football. Congratulations to Pearland and Lake for a hard played game! I can guarantee that there is not a coach or player on either side that wishes they hadn't done something differently!

Ex-player that had the good fortune of getting to play the game for 18 yrs. There has been bad blood between Pearland and Lake for years. They had a wonderful season last year but it came down to one of the best option QB's I've seen years (Oswald). The team talks to much smack this year and I only started posting because of the lengthy glossed over posts of Lake fans even when they lost.

Stats can be skewed by one game and are not always an accurate predictor but in this case it was based on the D because the O isn't as good this year. This was a grudge match from last year and everyone is second guessing this morning but ultimately the scoreboard belongs to Pearland. Whitaker is the real thing and grew up big time against North Shore in the playoffs last year. They will meet NS in the first round again and I agree with the other posters that if they don't open it up against them, then it will be a short playoff run.

As for the posts, thats what sports message boards are about. Don't like them, don't read them. As long as profanity is not used then stats discussions and opinions will always be a part of the game.

dd90
10-01-2005, 10:04 AM
You guys are all right. For the longest time, I was just a reader on these boards. Grudge match on this game - definitely. I followed Lake's incredible run last year to the semi-finals so that is what drew my attention to this thread. I figured it would be a close one.
It's fun to hash out stats in a game, calls coaches should have made, etc. I'm guilty of that as well. The only thing that I think got me last night is when I see people knock the kids. They work their tails off each week to go out and competitively play the game and when someone says something about a kid, other than a fact or stat of the game, that bothers me.
I appreciate your experience and knowledge of football. Sorry, frustration got the better of me. The posts that bother me the most, I'm sure, are the ones that end up as locker room trash posters.

waterboy
10-01-2005, 01:15 PM
lake is the best team pearland has played all year no doubt about that both teams struggled. pearland had great redzone defense and stoped lake many times the win could of gone eiither way but beacuse of fozzy p-land won.. good job p-land but i dont think yall should be ranked so high(overrated)..

Oiler99
10-01-2005, 09:26 PM
Ill admit that it wasnt a blowout but if you showed up half way through the game and watched a drive by each team it was clear who was winnin. No discredit to fozzy but he wasnt the only reason we won speciale's 100 yds. and 4th down touchdown put the game away. It just seemed like the game lacked that spark.

The score really wasnt as close as it was. Count the 70 yd run called back resultin in a punt, the fumble on the 10 that would of least produced 3, and Vaughn interception that he stepped out to run the clock off insteadin takin to the house when there was no one to beat. and you have a 31-3 mayb even a 35-3 game.

But Pearland needs to start rollin so they will be prepared for north shore in the 1st round

bulldog
10-02-2005, 10:16 AM
Ill admit that it wasnt a blowout but if you showed up half way through the game and watched a drive by each team it was clear who was winnin. No discredit to fozzy but he wasnt the only reason we won speciale's 100 yds. and 4th down touchdown put the game away. It just seemed like the game lacked that spark.

The score really wasnt as close as it was. Count the 70 yd run called back resultin in a punt, the fumble on the 10 that would of least produced 3, and Vaughn interception that he stepped out to run the clock off insteadin takin to the house when there was no one to beat. and you have a 31-3 mayb even a 35-3 game.

But Pearland needs to start rollin so they will be prepared for north shore in the 1st round
you have got to be the biggest homer on this board.
Lake fought toe to toe and came up short. don't give me this 35-3 crap. Lake can say the same thing. well if it wasn't for the 2 picks, or the dropped ball at the goalline, that would have made it 28-14 and if you make that long FG that makes it 31-14.
give me a break! Lake made more mistakes than Pearland did in the red zone. give them credit, but to think that Pearland is 28 points better than lake, you can't be that dumb!
I think pearland had about 20 more yards than lake. that is a huge *** kickin' ain't it! PLEASE!!!

Oiler1
10-03-2005, 08:32 AM
you have got to be the biggest homer on this board.
Lake fought toe to toe and came up short. don't give me this 35-3 crap. Lake can say the same thing. well if it wasn't for the 2 picks, or the dropped ball at the goalline, that would have made it 28-14 and if you make that long FG that makes it 31-14.
give me a break! Lake made more mistakes than Pearland did in the red zone. give them credit, but to think that Pearland is 28 points better than lake, you can't be that dumb!
I think pearland had about 20 more yards than lake. that is a huge *** kickin' ain't it! PLEASE!!!

bullpup,

Step away from the bong fella. I watched this game and it doesn't take an expert to see that the game was NEVER in doubt. I've watched more Lake games than I've watched Pearland and Lake has struggled all season (the Lee game was a fluke against a horrid defense). Clear Lake was stopped consistently because there was no Oswald who tore up Pearland last year. Lake could not stop Pearland who called a very conservative game against Lake. Vaughn did step out of bounds when he could have easily taken that pick the rest of the way. When Geno doesn't break 60 yds, then Lake was shutdown. Thats fact and when they were boasting that he would take it to the house at least twice he was stopped cold, thats another shutdown. Thats just fact not fiction.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-03-2005, 09:11 AM
bullpup,

Step away from the bong fella. I watched this game and it doesn't take an expert to see that the game was NEVER in doubt. I've watched more Lake games than I've watched Pearland and Lake has struggled all season (the Lee game was a fluke against a horrid defense). Clear Lake was stopped consistently because there was no Oswald who tore up Pearland last year. Lake could not stop Pearland who called a very conservative game against Lake. Vaughn did step out of bounds when he could have easily taken that pick the rest of the way. When Geno doesn't break 60 yds, then Lake was shutdown. Thats fact and when they were boasting that he would take it to the house at least twice he was stopped cold, thats another shutdown. Thats just fact not fiction.

I also attended the game. How can you say the game was in doubt when the score was 7-3 with nearly 6 minutes left to play? 7-3!!!!

To offer up an excuse that Pearland just played conservative is a slap in the face to the Pearland players, of which the coach should of ashamed. The ONLY difference in this game was Whitaker....and a decent defensive performance by P=land. (Of which the Lake defense, how lesser it may be, did a solid job as well. )

Pearland total offense 289
CLear Lake total offense 245

A 43 yard difference doesn't say much in the fact of dominance. Oh and this Vaughn kid didn't step out, he was pushed out by the only remaining Clear Lake player that was on the field. Actually that Lake player went, totally, through the lead blocker to stop the intercepting db, Vaughn. So NO there was no way he could of scored, because he was pushed out....he didn't step OUT as you seem to forget.

The fact is Pearland played better and won.....but Lake isn't far behind at all. And if they get stiffer on the defensive front, and throw the ball with more accuracy then they could very well win out...and that's against some good opposition.

Pearland on the other hand, conservative or not, hasn't shown me any passing in the 2 games I've seen them play this year. We'll see how far the junior Whitaker can take them. Their defense is decent, but definitely nothing to gloat about!

Pearland is not a Top 15 team! (And it would be hard to put them in the Top 20-25!)

bulldog
10-03-2005, 12:25 PM
bullpup,

Step away from the bong fella. I watched this game and it doesn't take an expert to see that the game was NEVER in doubt. I've watched more Lake games than I've watched Pearland and Lake has struggled all season (the Lee game was a fluke against a horrid defense). Clear Lake was stopped consistently because there was no Oswald who tore up Pearland last year. Lake could not stop Pearland who called a very conservative game against Lake. Vaughn did step out of bounds when he could have easily taken that pick the rest of the way. When Geno doesn't break 60 yds, then Lake was shutdown. Thats fact and when they were boasting that he would take it to the house at least twice he was stopped cold, thats another shutdown. Thats just fact not fiction.

the game was never in doubt once the score went 14-3. up until that point, Lake was moving the ball just as well as Pearland was. Lake moved the ball between the 20s pretty good, just got bogged down in the oilers end. Which i'll give all the credit in the world to Pearland for stopping Lake when it mattered.
You have stupid oozing out your ears!

But you are right, Lake is not as explosive as it was last season, and you seem to be the only person who keeps pointing that out. No one has mentioned that Lake was as good as last year. People on here have seen some positives and pointed them out and you come on here showing your stupidity by overblowing what people say.

I will say this, you saying that Lake had no shot all night is about as dumb as Pearland saying they were co-champs last year in 24-5A.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-03-2005, 12:32 PM
the game was never in doubt once the score went 14-3. up until that point, Lake was moving the ball just as well as Pearland was. Lake moved the ball between the 20s pretty good, just got bogged down in the oilers end. Which i'll give all the credit in the world to Pearland for stopping Lake when it mattered.
You have stupid oozing out your ears!

But you are right, Lake is not as explosive as it was last season, and you seem to be the only person who keeps pointing that out. No one has mentioned that Lake was as good as last year. People on here have seen some positives and pointed them out and you come on here showing your stupidity by overblowing what people say.

I will say this, you saying that Lake had no shot all night is about as dumb as Pearland saying they were co-champs last year in 24-5A.

I second that!

Oiler99
10-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Well Thats pretty darn Stupid of you because Pearland Was Co Champs

You keep sayin lake wasnt shut down in between the twentys when in fact, neither pick was inside the twentys nor was the made and missed field goal. SO if you count the fumble and the failed fourth down comversion they entered the red zone twice. but they were not shut down in the first half on their own side of the field. but there was a few three in outs in the second half.

o ya whats up wit the lake kicker linin up 5 and 6 yds deep on field goals. when everybody else is 7 or 8.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-03-2005, 07:39 PM
Well Thats pretty darn Stupid of you because Pearland Was Co Champs

You keep sayin lake wasnt shut down in between the twentys when in fact, neither pick was inside the twentys nor was the made and missed field goal. SO if you count the fumble and the failed fourth down comversion they entered the red zone twice. but they were not shut down in the first half on their own side of the field. but there was a few three in outs in the second half.

o ya whats up wit the lake kicker linin up 5 and 6 yds deep on field goals. when everybody else is 7 or 8.

I think everyone's minds are made up, as far as this discussion is concerned. Pearland needs not worry about the Lake....but Ball High!

And if they beat them they have to worry about getting out of the first round of the playoffs!! Hopefully Kt2000 is wrong and they won't have to play North Shore the first round!

Because then all this talk, and all that hard work will mean nothing!!!

rickker
10-03-2005, 09:03 PM
I was at the game and Lake was terrible!!!!! Pearland defense control them at 20 and all they do is score a cheap field goal.

Running the ball and not passing was a great coaching idea by running and controling the clock pearland keeped blow and his circus in the sidelines and pearland defense got the rest they need it.


Pearland has a some great players in defense they have speed and size and can hang with the best.

14-3 it should have been 21-3 if fozzy didnt fumble!!

spank!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

bulldog
10-03-2005, 09:55 PM
Well Thats pretty darn Stupid of you because Pearland Was Co Champs

You keep sayin lake wasnt shut down in between the twentys when in fact, neither pick was inside the twentys nor was the made and missed field goal. SO if you count the fumble and the failed fourth down comversion they entered the red zone twice. but they were not shut down in the first half on their own side of the field. but there was a few three in outs in the second half.

o ya whats up wit the lake kicker linin up 5 and 6 yds deep on field goals. when everybody else is 7 or 8.

but we all know who the real champs were on the field. just like on the field, Lake did not get blown out by Pearland. That is the point. I'm starting to worry about the water in Pearland.

But know this, as much stupid as you guys talk, the *** kickin' you took last year will never go away. I think you guys are trying act like last year did not happen. You thought you were finally out from under the shadow of the great Northshore only to find out that Pearland was indeed on the same level as a team like Lake. I think you guys thought you were better than the level of competition that was in 24-5A.
So get off your high horse and realize that a 7-3 ballgame with 5 minutes left is nowhere near a domination. Pearland is the better team, but I think the fans are dumber.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-03-2005, 09:59 PM
I was at the game and Lake was terrible!!!!! Pearland defense control them at 20 and all they do is score a cheap field goal.

Running the ball and not passing was a great coaching idea by running and controling the clock pearland keeped blow and his circus in the sidelines and pearland defense got the rest they need it.


Pearland has a some great players in defense they have speed and size and can hang with the best.

14-3 it should have been 21-3 if fozzy didnt fumble!!

spank!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

It was 7-3 with with just 6 minutes left in the game. If Lake was "terrible" what does that say about Pearland's performance?!

BTW, in all my years of playing I never heard of a usefull game plan, in which you remained conservative, not passing, just because you felt you didn't need to....and the score was as close as 7-3.

SLC would've scored until they felt they didn't need to...in most cases that's when you see scores like 63-10. The Pearland vs Lake game didn't have a score like that because neither team was THAT much better than the other.

Lakelover
10-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Man, I'm sorry I missed out on all this local discussion. First time on the board since last week. Congrats to Pearland, not an impressive showing but good enough for the win. Whitaker was impressive; has very good vision, makes good cuts, uses his blocking and has power to break tackles that belies his 175 lbs., and only a junior.

My first trip to the Rig. This is not a dig at Pearland but rather an honest observation...a nice facility for a day game but what's up with the poor lighting? It looked like the game was being played in twilight. Was it just me or did anyone else notice?

Fleeman93
10-03-2005, 11:39 PM
Memorial is the best team Pearland has played to this point followed by a distant Lake.

Oiler1
10-04-2005, 08:49 AM
I think everyone's minds are made up, as far as this discussion is concerned. Pearland needs not worry about the Lake....but Ball High!

And if they beat them they have to worry about getting out of the first round of the playoffs!! Hopefully Kt2000 is wrong and they won't have to play North Shore the first round!

Because then all this talk, and all that hard work will mean nothing!!!

Nope...Kt2000 is not wrong, no matter what happens between Pearland and Ball High (district title on the line). Pearland will meet North Shore in the first round. It will always be that way unless they change the system. Pearland and North Shore are the largest schools in their districts and regardless if they finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd, they will meet.

At this point Pearland is not good enough to beat North Shore and will have a short trip in the playoffs. Last year was the best chance with Buckner, Boone and Whitaker (pass and run attack). Some how getting lucky to get the game in the Rig with NS was the best situation. But guess what? Still couldn't pull off the victory. The true measure of Pearland's program in this decade will be when and if they can get the monkey off their back playing Shore and not losing. Lake is merely a bump in the road compared to the Shore losses.

Without a true option QB (Oswald) to run Lake's system then the ride is over at Lake. Gilmer was and will always be a pocket passing QB they converted to option style. Kid has a great arm, good height but not much speed or quickness. When Geno is gone this year, along with what is left of the playoff run players, Lake will fade quickly into a 24-5A middle of the pack team. Obviously Kt2000 doesn't think much of Lake anymore since they moved Alvin into the projected playoff spot.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-04-2005, 09:33 AM
Memorial is the best team Pearland has played to this point followed by a distant Lake.

Here's some interesting facts....

Memorial had a total of 126 yds against Pearland...P-Land had 360 yds!
Clear Lake had a total of 245 yds against Pearland....P-Land had 289 yds!

Pearland was winning, over Lake, 7-3, with the game still in doubt, going into the 4th q.
Memorial was winning, over Pearland, 7-3, with the game still in doubt, going into the 4th q.

Both Memorial and Lake lost by 11 points to Pearland.

Yet, some how, Memorial is light years ahead of Lake, and neither school is on the "ELITE" level of Pearland!

Guys....that's just silly! Pearland played better than Lake and Memorial, but they are not 63-10 SLC-better! And I listen to you guys, of whom obviously can't stand Lake, tell me Memorial is SO much better than Lake, yet Lake has won more games....and they nearly doubled the yardage total against Pearland. Granted if Lake had Memorial's schedule they might be 1-3, just like Memorial, but that just solidifies what I'm saying....Lake and Pearland aren't that far apart.

I'm sorry..the argument you're trying to make isn't flying. Pearland is better, but NOT by a mile! And most likely won't beat North Shore this year!

Fleeman93
10-04-2005, 09:48 AM
We'll see who goes further in the playoffs this year out of Lake and Memorial. That is if Lake can get out of their weak district.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-04-2005, 10:02 AM
We'll see who goes further in the playoffs this year out of Lake and Memorial. That is if Lake can get out of their weak district.

Emphasize..."WEAK DISTRICT"!!! :D

dada
10-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Emphasize..."WEAK DISTRICT"!!! :D
Greatone I see Pearland isnt on your list of favorite teams...I on the other hand was impressed with them last year when the RB was a sophmore...he's only gonna get better. They gave North Shore all they could handle last year...I think it was 35-30...and they wont go down without a fight this year. Memorial is slowly becoming "Katy-East"(Is it me or is their Uni's and crowd starting to look real katy-ish?)...They had a difficult Non-district but I still think they will finish 7-3 and be a 2nd possibly 3rd round playoff team....Lake on the other hand is still riding last years Katy win....you need ALL parts to make that offense run and Blow wont be able to do it alone.

rickker
10-04-2005, 10:17 AM
who cares if it was 7-3 going into the final quarter. A lost is a lost and clear lake got beat. Stop dreaming about last year its over for Lake they stink again.


:eek: :eek: :eek:

ThEgReAtOnE
10-04-2005, 12:04 PM
Greatone I see Pearland isnt on your list of favorite teams...I on the other hand was impressed with them last year when the RB was a sophmore...he's only gonna get better. They gave North Shore all they could handle last year...I think it was 35-30...and they wont go down without a fight this year. Memorial is slowly becoming "Katy-East"(Is it me or is their Uni's and crowd starting to look real katy-ish?)...They had a difficult Non-district but I still think they will finish 7-3 and be a 2nd possibly 3rd round playoff team....Lake on the other hand is still riding last years Katy win....you need ALL parts to make that offense run and Blow wont be able to do it alone.

You guys are under the impression that I am a Lake fan. Well, sorry to dissapoint you, I'm not! I'm not even from here....my teams are coming out of the DFW area.

Anyways, I am simply taking up for Lake in the fact that I do BELIEVE Pearland is better than Lake.....but not by a MILE, which some you seem to want to suggest.

I could care less about last year's Lake squad, even though they were solid.

Lake will struggle all year, but they aren't as HORRID as some of you wish them to be. Making some crucial adjustments like, replacing the QB with a speedy ATHLETIC skill person, have him and Geno run the OPTION. Then bring some of that size that sits useless on the sideline and have them plug some gaps.....and I can't emphasize SPEED, SPEED, SPEED....LB's, DB's and DE's!!!

Anyhow....to end all of this, Pearland is better than Lake, and would most likely beat them again.

You guys are making me want to go see a Memorial game!!! And I might just go do that!!! :D

CLFalcon2006
10-04-2005, 02:22 PM
who cares if it was 7-3 going into the final quarter. A lost is a lost and clear lake got beat. Stop dreaming about last year its over for Lake they stink again.


:eek: :eek: :eek:

First of all we're not riding last year's Katy win. It was a great game and currently it is the pinnacle achivement of our football program, however just because Pearland beat us (a very respectable team I might add) and we have to losses we have given away does not make us a bad team. This is a good team that just has not ogten its act together. Mainly because of undersized and inexpereinced kids and a slow sloppy QB in John Gilmer.

There may be light at the end of the tunnel however.

Lake plays Brazoswood tonight in what may be the most crutial game of our season. If rumor is true Gilmer will split carrys with Cole Mueller (2nd string QB FAST AS HELL) If Cole can prove he can lead the team (which I have no doubt he can do better than Gilmer) then Aduddle just might hand the ropes over to Mueller and the season might have a chance of being saved. If Lake can stasrt getting its act together tonight we might even evolve into a one of the areas better teams come playoff time. If tonight however implodes upon us or Gilmer remains QB we'll be lucky to get into the last spot in the playoffs.

Lake v B-Wood at The Rig Tonight at 7
Sounds like a bad game, but the hopes of a season ride on a win tonight
Go Lake!

Oiler1
10-04-2005, 03:05 PM
First of all we're not riding last year's Katy win. It was a great game and currently it is the pinnacle achivement of our football program, however just because Pearland beat us (a very respectable team I might add) and we have to losses we have given away does not make us a bad team. This is a good team that just has not ogten its act together. Mainly because of undersized and inexpereinced kids and a slow sloppy QB in John Gilmer.

There may be light at the end of the tunnel however.

Lake plays Brazoswood tonight in what may be the most crutial game of our season. If rumor is true Gilmer will split carrys with Cole Mueller (2nd string QB FAST AS HELL) If Cole can prove he can lead the team (which I have no doubt he can do better than Gilmer) then Aduddle just might hand the ropes over to Mueller and the season might have a chance of being saved. If Lake can stasrt getting its act together tonight we might even evolve into a one of the areas better teams come playoff time. If tonight however implodes upon us or Gilmer remains QB we'll be lucky to get into the last spot in the playoffs.

Lake v B-Wood at The Rig Tonight at 7
Sounds like a bad game, but the hopes of a season ride on a win tonight
Go Lake!

B'wood and Creek are hoping Gilmer stays put for this week at least.

lamarqe05
10-04-2005, 07:07 PM
gilmer is a awsome qb we dont need a second string player coming in.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-04-2005, 08:01 PM
gilmer is a awsome qb we dont need a second string player coming in.

Uh...ya you do! Gilmer, while he may develop into a more effecient passer, is not an "Option Running QB"!

You don't agree now...but if you see this so called back-up that has blazing speed, but no arm, running the option to perfection you'll be happy for the change!

rickker
10-04-2005, 10:24 PM
lake got own at the rig again!!!!

ThEgReAtOnE
10-04-2005, 10:54 PM
Serious changes need to be made in order to save some dignity, on Lake's part!

Like I've been saying...(BEFORE ALL THIS CRAP GETS STARTED)...Pearland is better than Lake, this year!!!!!!!!

Lets leave it at that!!!

CLFalcon2006
10-05-2005, 01:10 AM
lake got own at the rig again!!!!

seriously this is the 4th time i've seen u and oiler post this same meaningless post on a lake related thread.

Pearland's better than Lake this year. There I said it, and the rest of Lake recognizes that. (a loss usually means your not as good as the person who beat you) do you want a medal or something, because I beilive that comes at the end of district.

Go Ball so i can make idiodic "Pearland lost in the RIG!" threads.

Oiler1
10-05-2005, 07:31 AM
seriously this is the 4th time i've seen u and oiler post this same meaningless post on a lake related thread.

Pearland's better than Lake this year. There I said it, and the rest of Lake recognizes that. (a loss usually means your not as good as the person who beat you) do you want a medal or something, because I beilive that comes at the end of district.

Go Ball so i can make idiodic "Pearland lost in the RIG!" threads.

I started posting because of Lake FANS and very stupid bragging that went on after the Tomball game. I was at the Lake games and I did not see any of what was being posted. I watched and admired Oswald's play last year (one of the best option QB's I've ever seen). So I couldn't just let the statements made after Tomball that Lake was back and the high graduation rate of the Seniors from last years squad didn't make a difference. Obviously those weaknesses are being exploited.

CLFalcon2006
10-05-2005, 08:31 AM
I started posting because of Lake FANS and very stupid bragging that went on after the Tomball game. I was at the Lake games and I did not see any of what was being posted. I watched and admired Oswald's play last year (one of the best option QB's I've ever seen). So I couldn't just let the statements made after Tomball that Lake was back and the high graduation rate of the Seniors from last years squad didn't make a difference. Obviously those weaknesses are being exploited.


Don't pay attention to those kids most of them don't have anything better to do or the knowlege to back it up. As far as honesty and stats, knowelge etc. trust myself, lakepride06, thegreatone, lamarquecougar, and a few others. There will always be a number of idiots that come out after a 15-6 win against a mediocre opponet and pronounce that their team is better than everyone and everything.

LakePride06
10-05-2005, 08:33 AM
Yup, Lake def. lost to Brazoswood 28-12 last night. Seeing as i'm the guy who writes stories about the football team for our newspaper, I suppose i should take this objectively.
I also suppose this defenitly answers the question, assuming Pearland rapes Brazoswood (and i have no doubt they will) that Pearland is miles ahead of lake and just played a slow game against us.
Brazoswood sucks, and they beat Lake 28-12... which can only mean that as of right now... we are just plain terrible.
At the end of week 6 Clear Lake is under a huge identity crisis, we can't reproduce the talent base we had last year, and we are trying to force things that just wont happen.
Addudel's brilliant idea of trying to add a 4th element to the triple option by putting a pocket qb into the system is really biting him in the ***.
Injuries are another story, we currently have our best OL playing on the DL becuz a DT got injured. Not to mention our starting left guard is out cuz he broke his shin. Without an offensive line, Geno isnt gonna get half the yards he would have last year, and without Geno, teams are gonna crack down on the outside.
As a hardcore football fan, staring at the scoreboard last night, i honestly thought i must have died and this was god's cruel joke on me. This is worse than A&M loosing to Baylor.
The good news is, 24-5a might be the weakest district this year, meaning IF, and ONLY IF can find our identity and recover our offense, then we might still have a shot at the 3rd spot in the playoffs behind Pearland and Ball....

Oiler1
10-05-2005, 10:32 AM
Yup, Lake def. lost to Brazoswood 28-12 last night. Seeing as i'm the guy who writes stories about the football team for our newspaper, I suppose i should take this objectively.
I also suppose this defenitly answers the question, assuming Pearland rapes Brazoswood (and i have no doubt they will) that Pearland is miles ahead of lake and just played a slow game against us.
Brazoswood sucks, and they beat Lake 28-12... which can only mean that as of right now... we are just plain terrible.
At the end of week 6 Clear Lake is under a huge identity crisis, we can't reproduce the talent base we had last year, and we are trying to force things that just wont happen.
Addudel's brilliant idea of trying to add a 4th element to the triple option by putting a pocket qb into the system is really biting him in the ***.
Injuries are another story, we currently have our best OL playing on the DL becuz a DT got injured. Not to mention our starting left guard is out cuz he broke his shin. Without an offensive line, Geno isnt gonna get half the yards he would have last year, and without Geno, teams are gonna crack down on the outside.
As a hardcore football fan, staring at the scoreboard last night, i honestly thought i must have died and this was god's cruel joke on me. This is worse than A&M loosing to Baylor.
The good news is, 24-5a might be the weakest district this year, meaning IF, and ONLY IF can find our identity and recover our offense, then we might still have a shot at the 3rd spot in the playoffs behind Pearland and Ball....

Your right 24-5A is weak but not the weakest. Lake will get tested this week through the air against Creek. Creek is still hungry and after all the jeers taken from Lake since the downward spiral, they will be looking to punish Lake if possible. Your correct that Pearland played a really slow game against Lake, I can only assume the break from the Hurricane made Heath call such a conservative game.
Watched the Creek game against Alvin on a hunch that would be the one the streak would end on. They shut Alvin down and only let them across the 50 once. Stats are skewed with the punter running 50 yards to the endzone to take a safety so the ref's would stop trying to take the win away (worst officials I've ever seen).
Alvin is not the team from last year (no Goffney and no speed) and yes Lake should beat them. However Alvin stomped B'wood. Brook lost to a very good Pearland and I would not count them out.
All and all the 3rd slot is up for grabs but I'm putting my money on the underdog (Creek). Size and speed with a very experienced OL (all returning starters). Coaches son being QB is the only flaw since he is a sophmore (lots of mistakes by him or the Alvin game could have easily been 35 to 7 but thats football...lots of what ifs).
Lakes in a down turn and what little speed they have left graduates this year. Katy makes adjustments to the talent they have and thats what it takes to win year after year. Being stubborn and set in your ways will get you beat.
As usual this is just my observations and humble opinions.

lamarqe05
10-05-2005, 05:32 PM
first of all the second string qb ran a 4.77 i saw it on the list second of all gilmer ran a 4.75 so yea the second string qb is so much faster then gilmer haha your just saying that cuz hes shorter you got no clue what your talken about.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-05-2005, 07:25 PM
first of all the second string qb ran a 4.77 i saw it on the list second of all gilmer ran a 4.75 so yea the second string qb is so much faster then gilmer haha your just saying that cuz hes shorter you got no clue what your talken about.


It doesn't take a NATURAL QB to run the option in HS. A decent, but speedy, SKILL player can do the trick.

La Marque should know something about that...Texas City, who sucks this year, ran that same option and quiet a few dive plays with a skill player at QB and BEAT La Marque last year!!

AND before you give a comeback, I'll answer for you....

"Texas City was lucky last year, because our players were suspended!"
"Also, this year we're undefeated and Texas City sucks!"
"Also, La Marque went much deeper in the playoffs than T-City!"


And then we'll go on about how, in all-time wins, La Marque owns T-City, which is the total truth! I just wanted to make the point that adjustments could be made to help Lake.

CLFalcon2006
10-05-2005, 07:46 PM
Alright u caught me Gilmer might be slightly faster than mueller but gilmer is also taller, lankeyer (if thats a word), and much more clumsy. When they put Cole in his first play he broke 2 tackles and streched for about 3 more yards to pick up about 8 or 9. Gilmer probably would have fumbled the ball after gaining 2 yards.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-05-2005, 07:55 PM
Alright u caught me Gilmer might be slightly faster than mueller but gilmer is also taller, lankeyer (if thats a word), and much more clumsy. When they put Cole in his first play he broke 2 tackles and streched for about 3 more yards to pick up about 8 or 9. Gilmer probably would have fumbled the ball after gaining 2 yards.

Don't frat!!! The fact is there's some serious adjustments that need to be made!!

lamarqe05
10-05-2005, 08:19 PM
done with

ThEgReAtOnE
10-05-2005, 08:46 PM
like realy though i say this should be the last post us writting in here is jinking us we lost were 2-4 big woop no 1 expected to be all great so please end the chat if you have anythin to say to jon gilmer then say it to his face that kids a fighter dont just go turning on him alright im done

Dude...sit back and READ what you posted!! How in the world can anyone understand that????!!!!!!

lamarqe05
10-05-2005, 08:53 PM
the best play pearland did in the game was when yall set up yalls kickoff team and that dude was dancing and he pointed to one side and they would line up like a lineman and when he pointed to the other side and the other side went down.

ThEgReAtOnE
10-05-2005, 08:56 PM
the best play pearland did in the game was when yall set up yalls kickoff team and that dude was dancing and he pointed to one side and they would line up like a lineman and when he pointed to the other side and the other side went down.


?????????

Read my last post....

CLFalcon2006
10-05-2005, 10:32 PM
is he drunk or something? Those posts don't even come close to making sense...

LakePride06
10-05-2005, 11:51 PM
and uhhhh wtf is he doing on 5A texas football's site.....
Isn't Lamarque 4a??
This brings me to my next point kids, dont do drugs

ThEgReAtOnE
10-06-2005, 07:53 AM
and uhhhh wtf is he doing on 5A texas football's site.....
Isn't Lamarque 4a??
This brings me to my next point kids, dont do drugs


Good point!!! LOL!!!

CLFalcon2006
10-06-2005, 08:49 AM
I've read the same 2 LaMarque posts like 4 times now and everytime I do I burst out laughing.

"Remember time when goat ate can in barn with grandma while the houuse was ocupided with brother/father as he was makin' lov to maother/ant. Goode tims yall.

LakePride06
10-06-2005, 08:55 AM
I DOO Remember that!
Those were good times...
LaMarque family reunion!

Oiler1
10-06-2005, 09:27 AM
and uhhhh wtf is he doing on 5A texas football's site.....
Isn't Lamarque 4a??
This brings me to my next point kids, dont do drugs

Thats a great point! Step away from the bong fella.

I crack up everytime I read lamarque's posts. He is trying to support Gilmer, so does that mean he is actually from Lake. Thats scary because I know Lake's a Nationally recognized school.

Maybe I need a translator or something.