MNW Kicks Off in 2 1/2 hours!

[GBMonster76]

I'll have a full report for you fellas!

[ScottS]

Think they'll lose?

[supercentex]

Too bad we can't listen on the internet. Are their games broadcasted on the radio? If so, what station?

[GBMonster76]

No, I would be shocked if they lose. But, they are playing a very talented team in Deerfield Beach HS. Deerfield Beach was the state runner-up in 2005, but MNW will just be too much for them...especially at home. If a shocker happens, I'll post immediately.

[GBMonster76]

Too bad we can't listen on the internet. Are their games broadcasted on the radio? If so, what station?

No, no radio... I'll try and update this site as soon as I hear something.

[ScottS]

How about a webcast? If not, can you sneak in a webcam and broadcast from the stadium?

[maxtor]

No, no radio... I'll try and update this site as soon as I hear something.

Thanks, I hope MNW wins or it will deflate the MNW/SLC matchup. It would also void a SLC win over MNW and it would REALLY suck for SLC to lose to MNW after MNW had lost 2 weeks before.

[GBMonster76]

I am actually not going to the MNW game tonight...I have to attend another game, but I'll get updates, and I'll try and post them as soon as they happen.

[sldragondad]

Updates??????

[sldragondad]

No, no radio... I'll try and update this site as soon as I hear something.

What, no Radio. Don't the local folk know how big HS Football is??????

[dada]

Is this a scrimage....real game? What?

[supercentex]

It's a real game......

[dada]

It's a real game......

WOW...their season starts pretty early

[supercentex]

WOW...their season starts pretty early

Yes, and they had a full real game in the spring against Glades Central.

[sldragondad]

Yes, and they had a full real game in the spring against Glades Central.

Saaay what?

[SLC93]

Saaay what?

Florida spring ball concludes with a game being played. Think of it as a preseason, dress rehearsal. Instead of a scrimmage, teams schedule an opponent and play a game. It doesn't count or effect the regular season in any way, though.

[twcpfan1]

Florida spring ball concludes with a game being played. Think of it as a preseason, dress rehearsal. Instead of a scrimmage, teams schedule an opponent and play a game. It doesn't count or effect the regular season in any way, though.

We should do something similar here. If we're scheduling other schools for Scrimmages, why not just schedule a game. Schools can always scrimmage amongst themselves. I thought that was what practice was for. There are some scrimmages taking place right now that can be kick-butt games. Anything to prolong the season :D

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

"Miami northwestern is cranking it up early with a 30-14 lead over Deerfield Beach. 3 TD's for Jacory Harris.

Michael also explained that the 2 TD's scored by Deerfield Beach have come late in the game, while scrubs were in the game.

*Also of note, I think he reported that MNW missed 4 extra points...this may come back to haunt them."

- from FlaVarsity.rivals.com

ScottS - there's your info on the PK you've been looking for.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Read elsewhere that Deerfield Beach's two TDs came (1) following a fumble by Harris deep in MNW territory and (2) on a 50 yard slant that was taken to the house.

[svhorns]

38-28 Slc

[SLC93]

We should do something similar here. If we're scheduling other schools for Scrimmages, why not just schedule a game. Schools can always scrimmage amongst themselves. I thought that was what practice was for. There are some scrimmages taking place right now that can be kick-butt games. Anything to prolong the season :D

Florida has been light years ahead of the rest of us for a longtime when it comes to springball.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Looky looky:

"From Michael: DFB coming back with a flurry... Score now 31-28.

The Bulls look terrible."

- FlaVarsity.rivals.com
(FWIW, the guy who runs this site Michael Langston is a very nice guy who was recently diagnosed with cancer. If you have any interest in Fl football give his site a look (be careful on the message boards)).

[SLC93]

Looky looky:

"From Michael: DFB coming back with a flurry... Score now 31-28.

The Bulls look terrible."

- FlaVarsity.rivals.com
(FWIW, the guy who runs this site Michael Langston is a very nice guy who was recently diagnosed with cancer. If you have any interest in Fl football give his site a look (be careful on the message boards)).

Wow! You're not messing with us, Oak?

[twcpfan1]

Will they give you a refund if you return your SLC-MNW tickets?:D

[SGP 06 Alumni]

wow...if MNW is struggling with them, they will have a REALLY tough time dealing with SLC. Have mercy SLC....no wait, KNOCK'EM DEAD!:eek: :D

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Wow! You're not messing with us, Oak?

I'm not, but maybe the author of those posts is? Don't think so, but message boards are message boards and anyone can post anything.

Talk about an entire summer's worth of message board hype going up in flames, can you imagine a MNW loss??? I'm literally laughing out loud at the months of bravado coming to a screeching halt weeks before the 9/15 game even takes place.

[twcpfan1]

I'm not, but maybe the author of those posts is? Don't think so, but message boards are message boards and anyone can post anything.

Talk about an entire summer's worth of message board hype going up in flames, can you imagine a MNW loss??? I'm literally laughing out loud at the months of bravado coming to a screeching halt weeks before the 9/15 game even takes place.

Plus ESPN and USA Today will look pretty stupid.

[sldragondad]

Anyone heard the Final????????????????????????????????????????????? ????

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I Northwestern alumni just sent me a message, and he says that the Bulls are in trouble.

Score is 44-41!

[DragonBand06]

I Northwestern alumni just sent me a message, and he says that the Bulls are in trouble.

Score is 44-41!

LOL! /\ Music to my ears :Music

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I'll post here as soon as it's up. My wife has been on permanent bedrest for the last 7 weeks, I've gotten pretty good at finding stuff on the net.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

LOL! /\ Music to my ears :Music

And the game ain't over yet either!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Touchdown Bulls, 50-41!

[SLC93]

Touchdown Bulls, 50-41!

Get us the final & some numbers if you can.:D

[BigFanSLC]

seems as if the MNW Defense is giving up too many points... but its not final yet

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Matthew - I read that a late hit put Deerfield Beach's QB out of the game. Can you confirm/deny with whoever you're talking to?

[TheBigPeach]

Ohio Football Started tonight as well. Im listening to my uncles post game show

http://www.massillonproud.com/

Go Tigers;)

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

50-41 final, Bulls win.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Get us the final & some numbers if you can.:D

Gotcha!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Matthew - I read that a late hit put Deerfield Beach's QB out of the game. Can you confirm/deny with whoever you're talking to?

I haven't gotten a reply yet on this, but I'll let ya know!

[supercentex]

Deerfield Beach runs the Wing-T similar to Chaminade Madonna. Crazy they RAN for that many points.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

50-41 final, Bulls win.

Thanks for the update Oak!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Deerfield Beach runs the Wing-T similar to Chaminade Madonna. Crazy they RAN for that many points.

D.Beach was also the last team to hand the Bulls their last loss.

[drgnbkr]

Sounds like the Bulls have some defensive deficiencies of their own....

[RidgePride]

This could be similar to a Carroll vs Grapevine type of game.

We should be careful not to have a knee jerk reaction.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

D.Beach was also the last team to hand the Bulls their last loss.

Good point, the Bucks are almost always solid. Hope no one here is thinking that some scrub team almost knocked MNW off.... DB is one of the better teams in the state and loaded with good athletes.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Just got the word, the Deerfield Beach QB did NOT get knocked out of the game. No one really layed a hand on him.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Good point, the Bucks are almost always solid. Hope no one here is thinking that some scrub team almost knocked MNW off.... DB is one of the better teams in the state and loaded with good athletes.

Agreed!

[jrock210]

WOW MNW lost?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

WOW MNW lost?

Nope, they won 50-41. But, they did blow a big second half lead.

[jrock210]

Nope, they won 50-41. But, they did blow a big second half lead.

Oh OK I was going to say wow! all the hype went down the drain!
SLC should deal with them OK

[DrEdward]

It's a very early first game of the season under a new coach, so I would not read too much into this game one way or the other.

[SLC93]

50-41 final, Bulls win.

Now does anybody understand why all those shutouts that defense threw last year were suspect? Almost all of them came against the Miami hish schools. The talent is certainly there but the numbers are inflated. Carroll/MNW has a different feel to it now. The offensive fireworks should be impressive.

[SLC93]

Just got the word, the Deerfield Beach QB did NOT get knocked out of the game. No one really layed a hand on him.

Good to know.

[SLC93]

Deerfield Beach runs the Wing-T similar to Chaminade Madonna. Crazy they RAN for that many points.

The last two games for this defense have been shaky with regards to the short & rush games.

[SLC93]

It's a very early first game of the season under a new coach, so I would not read too much into this game one way or the other.

True.

[cajun]

I ain't buying it..

41 points is way too many points to give up by the 2nd ranked team in the nation-1st in some polls...

I can see 50-27 or 48-21, that type of score, but 50-41..I dunnooooo!

This is the same Deerfield Beach team that got hammered by South Plantation 31-6 in the 6A playoffs in Florida last year....

The most points Deerfield Beach scored all year in a single game last year was 48 against Coral Springs(2-8)..

Maybe Deerfield Beach much improved this year-that's possible...This MNW we talking about here though...I dunno...I believe they got some issues they better address pretty fast myself..

Good thing is they won I guess...


Deerfield Beach 2006
August 25, 2006 12:00 AM @Dillard (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 14-7
September 1, 2006 12:00 AM @Coconut Creek (Coconut Creek, FL) W 14-13
September 8, 2006 12:00 AM Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) L 8-23
September 15, 2006 12:00 AM @Miramar (Miramar, FL) L 12-21
September 29, 2006 12:00 AM @Coral Springs (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 48-7
October 6, 2006 12:00 AM @Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 18-15
October 13, 2006 12:00 AM Taravella (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 34-3
October 19, 2006 12:00 AM @Plantation (Plantation, FL) W 28-12
October 26, 2006 12:00 AM @Douglas (Parkland, FL) ** W 29-7
November 3, 2006 12:00 AM Ely (Pompano Beach, FL) W 28-6
November 10, 2006 12:00 AM South Plantation (Plantation, FL) L 6-31

[SLC93]

I ain't buying it..

41 points is way too many points to give up by the 2nd ranked team in the nation-1st in some polls...

I can see 50-27 or 48-21, that type of score, but 50-41..I dunnooooo!

This is the same Deerfield Beach team that got hammered by South Plantation 31-6 in the 6A playoffs in Florida last year....

The most points Deerfield Beach scored all year in a single game last year was 48 against Coral Springs(2-8)...We talking

Maybe Deerfield Beach much improved this year-that's possible...This MNW we talking about here though...I dunno...I believe they got some issues they better address pretty fast myself..

Good thing is they won I guess...


Deerfield Beach 2006
August 25, 2006 12:00 AM @Dillard (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 14-7
September 1, 2006 12:00 AM @Coconut Creek (Coconut Creek, FL) W 14-13
September 8, 2006 12:00 AM Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) L 8-23
September 15, 2006 12:00 AM @Miramar (Miramar, FL) L 12-21
September 29, 2006 12:00 AM @Coral Springs (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 48-7
October 6, 2006 12:00 AM @Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 18-15
October 13, 2006 12:00 AM Taravella (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 34-3
October 19, 2006 12:00 AM @Plantation (Plantation, FL) W 28-12
October 26, 2006 12:00 AM @Douglas (Parkland, FL) ** W 29-7
November 3, 2006 12:00 AM Ely (Pompano Beach, FL) W 28-6
November 10, 2006 12:00 AM South Plantation (Plantation, FL) L 6-31

And for the score to be 44-41, late, is interesting to me. This isn't a case of the other team putting up 2 or 3 scores against the 2nd or 3rd teams. This sounds like a dogfight, especiall since MNW was reported to be up 30-14.

[hollywood]

I ain't buying it..

41 points is way too many points to give up by the 2nd ranked team in the nation-1st in some polls...

I can see 50-27 or 48-21, that type of score, but 50-41..I dunnooooo!

This is the same Deerfield Beach team that got hammered by South Plantation 31-6 in the 6A playoffs in Florida last year....

The most points Deerfield Beach scored all year in a single game last year was 48 against Coral Springs(2-8)..

Maybe Deerfield Beach much improved this year-that's possible...This MNW we talking about here though...I dunno...I believe they got some issues they better address pretty fast myself..

Good thing is they won I guess...


Deerfield Beach 2006
August 25, 2006 12:00 AM @Dillard (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 14-7
September 1, 2006 12:00 AM @Coconut Creek (Coconut Creek, FL) W 14-13
September 8, 2006 12:00 AM Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) L 8-23
September 15, 2006 12:00 AM @Miramar (Miramar, FL) L 12-21
September 29, 2006 12:00 AM @Coral Springs (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 48-7
October 6, 2006 12:00 AM @Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, FL) W 18-15
October 13, 2006 12:00 AM Taravella (Coral Springs, FL) ** W 34-3
October 19, 2006 12:00 AM @Plantation (Plantation, FL) W 28-12
October 26, 2006 12:00 AM @Douglas (Parkland, FL) ** W 29-7
November 3, 2006 12:00 AM Ely (Pompano Beach, FL) W 28-6
November 10, 2006 12:00 AM South Plantation (Plantation, FL) L 6-31It could be bogus info, but then again they had a big lead going into the second half. Scrubs went in for MNW. Then who knows? If this is true, they may not be overly concerned. It does seem a little odd ...

[GBMonster76]

I just got some first hand information, and apparently the Bulls were dominating an excellent Deerfield Beach team. But, all of a sudden, with a 31-7 lead, the Bulls just imploded and nearly blew the game.

Obviously, the Bulls need to work out some things on defense, but I would only say this...Deerfield Beach is a loaded football team...this was a match up of true Florida powers... DB was the state runner-up in 6A in 2005, so MNW putting 51 on them is amazing.

But, again, I'm a football guy and a realist and my money is on SLC, who is a far more polished, disciplined football team than MNW.

SLC 31
MNW 28

[SLC93]

I just got some first hand information, and apparently the Bulls were dominating an excellent Deerfield Beach team. But, all of a sudden, with a 31-7 lead, the Bulls just imploded and nearly blew the game.

Obviously, the Bulls need to work out some things on defense, but I would only say this...Deerfield Beach is a loaded football team...this was a match up of true Florida powers... DB was the state runner-up in 6A in 2005, so MNW putting 51 on them is amazing.

But, again, I'm a football guy and a realist and my money is on SLC, who is a far more polished, disciplined football team than MNW.

SLC 31
MNW 28

Any insight as to what the issue was? I think we all understand that the opponent was one of the better programs in Florida but 41 points is alot to give up. Glad to hear the ugly hit on the qb was rumor.

[cajun]

Obviously, the Bulls need to work out some things on defense, but I would only say this...Deerfield Beach is a loaded football team...this was a match up of true Florida powers...

SLC 31
MNW 28

Was Deerfield Beach a true Florida power when the score was 31-7?

I think MNW may want to work on that imploding issue...

[supercentex]

They are trying to say it's 'coaching'. That Glades Central was alot better than Deerfield Beach....and they had no trouble with GC when the old coaches were there.

[SLC93]

They are trying to say it's 'coaching'. That Glades Central was alot better than Deerfield Beach....and they had no trouble with GC when the old coaches were there.

Surely they're not pointing fingers after one game.:confused:

[supercentex]

Surely they're not pointing fingers after one game.:confused:

Yeah, and after the new coaches were announced they were all saying it didn't matter who coached the team. The players were that good.....

[Southlakehawk]

What kind of Journaism are they using over there in Dade County? The headline reads Northwestern routs Deerfield Beach.




http://www.miamiherald.com/620/story/214978.html

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Now does anybody understand why all those shutouts that defense threw last year were suspect? Almost all of them came against the Miami hish schools. The talent is certainly there but the numbers are inflated. Carroll/MNW has a different feel to it now. The offensive fireworks should be impressive.

I said from the get go, that the final between Carroll and Northwestern would be something like 45-38, or 45-42. I'm thinking 45-42!

[Dragon20]

What kind of Journaism are they using over there in Dade County? The headline reads Northwestern routs Deerfield Beach.




http://www.miamiherald.com/620/story/214978.html

Only 4000 people that was the Crowd? Hope they are ready for a Texassize Crowd. I can't remember when SLC played for 4000 must have been the 70's.

[SLC93]

"We simply took them lightly. We thought they had quit." :confused:

Words from the legendary Billy Rolle. :rolleyes:

[ScottS]

Anyone have a box score for this game?

[pied]

Apparently this was not a "real" game and will not be in the record books.

It is difficult enough finding box scores for the title game in FL, I doubt you'll find one for this type of game/scrimmage.

[dada]

Apparently this was not a "real" game and will not be in the record books.

It is difficult enough finding box scores for the title game in FL, I doubt you'll find one for this type of game/scrimmage.

So it was a Scrimage?

[pied]

So it was a Scrimage?

Apparently so. It was not listed on their ten game schedule, so I asked on a couple of other boards and that's the answer I got. One guy stated there were "6 inches of water" on the field. A little exagerrated I think.


They do appear to take them a little more seriously than we do here.

[pied]

The water on the field comment was apparently regarding another game, not the one NW played in. My error.

[RidgePride]

I said from the get go, that the final between Carroll and Northwestern would be something like 45-38, or 45-42. I'm thinking 45-42!

My prediction was 52-33 Carroll.

[CO99JTHS]

Factor in the hype of the game, the travel factor, being 16-18 years old in a hotel miles away with friends the night before ( the bs factor lol), quality of the opponent, and its in Dallas.....it could get ugly. If i'm MNW the only way I took this game is if SLC agreed to play it in Shreveport. From what I've read, MNW had problems handling a mobile qb and even put A. Johnson at safety to help cover deep balls....the line just increased lol.

[GBMonster76]

SLC 31
MNW 28

Come on now, let's not get too over confident. I represent both states, and I would never pick MNW to get blown out by anyone, anywhere, any time. Deerfield Beach was the state runner-up in 2005!

[toddg]

SLC 31
MNW 28

Come on now, let's not get too over confident. I represent both states, and I would never pick MNW to get blown out by anyone, anywhere, any time. Deerfield Beach was the state runner-up in 2005!

my prediction..southlake 70 mnw 69...missed extra point:eek:

[rantanamo]

If MNW is supposed to be better than that Booker T team, SLC is in for a long day.

[GBMonster76]

I tell you what, that Booker T. team looked SICKENINGLY GOOD today, and, yes, Booker T. is widely considered to be the 2nd best team in Miami behind MNW.

SLC 31
MNW 28

[F18mustang]

Sorry for my lack of info, But will this Booker team play MNW during the season?

[Sakatha]

If MNW is supposed to be better than that Booker T team, SLC is in for a long day.

Why is that?

~DnM

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I tell you what, that Booker T. team looked SICKENINGLY GOOD today

GB, you're a good guy and obviously know your football, but I think you're overstating BTW's performance today just a little bit. Just IMO.

[BigFanSLC]

the S.C. teams oline was horrible.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

nm.

[Texasfrog]

SLC 31
MNW 28

Come on now, let's not get too over confident. I represent both states, and I would never pick MNW to get blown out by anyone, anywhere, any time. Deerfield Beach was the state runner-up in 2005!

It's 2007 on the calender unless I took a left turn somewhere GBM.;)

[Texasfrog]

GB, you're a good guy and obviously know your football, but I think you're overstating BTW's performance today just a little bit. Just IMO.

Ya, I'm sure Summerville, SC was this super stiff quality opponent today.:rolleyes:

Not taking anything away from BTW. I do think almost every year since about 2003 they have been a top #2 and sometimes #1 Miami-Dade HS team despite some people on here trying to claim they couldnt hang with many of the Dade 6A's.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: "LOL !!"

I'm also pretty sure that many Texas teams would of rolled Summerville just as bad and many Texas teams probably worse.

[GBMonster76]

GB, you're a good guy and obviously know your football, but I think you're overstating BTW's performance today just a little bit. Just IMO.

I could be, I just think it's rare to see a team so crisp in the preseason, unless of course you're SLC.

[GBMonster76]

Ya, I'm sure Summerville, SC was this super stiff quality opponent today.:rolleyes:

Not taking anything away from BTW. I do think almost every year since about 2003 they have been a top #2 and sometimes #1 Miami-Dade HS team despite some people on here trying to claim they couldnt hang with many of the Dade 6A's.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: "LOL !!"

I'm also pretty sure that many Texas teams would of rolled Summerville just as bad and many Texas teams probably worse.

This is true... Trinity, SLC, Lufkin, Katy, and maybe a few others would've rolled Summerville...mainly because of their o-line.

[TigerHat]

One thing that I have noticed in watching teams play is how difficult it is to judge how well they will do against each other until you see them on the field together. Of course that is exactly why they play the games.

The cliche that "Football is a game of inches" is so true. The posistioning of blockers by only a few inches can make a big difference in the outcome of a play. Superior technique or superior athleticism or superior intensity can allow you to make those positional inches.

Not many people except rabid Gator supporters thought they would demolish Ohio State the way they did in the NCAA championship game last year. I am looking forward to seeing MNW and SLC on the same field - it should be an ineteresting game.

[pied]

Ya, I'm sure Summerville, SC was this super stiff quality opponent today.:rolleyes:

Not taking anything away from BTW. I do think almost every year since about 2003 they have been a top #2 and sometimes #1 Miami-Dade HS team despite some people on here trying to claim they couldnt hang with many of the Dade 6A's.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: "LOL !!"

Don't think anyone has said that.

I still find it funny that you didn't think much of BTW when you said they were a Dade 6A. Now that you were corrected, you can't get enough of them.

[Texasfrog]

Don't think anyone has said that.

I still find it funny that you didn't think much of BTW when you said they were a Dade 6A. Now that you were corrected, you can't get enough of them.

Wow loser, I said they were a 6A huh ?? Go back and dig into the archives and find the thread there "loser" where I called BTW a 6A !! Love to see it.

I did make the mistake and call them a 5A but dont recall ever calling them a 6A. Please go archive through my 6,000 post and find it like you love to do ok "loser."

Also "loser" dont worry. I'm about ready to play your little game of taking sentences out of paragraphs so there basically taken totally out of context.;) :rolleyes:

Go find some Florida poster that wants to tell you how BTW really isnt that good and Hollywood Chaminade really arent that good compared to all the Dade 6A's and that none of the 3A's and 2A's in Florida can hang with the Dade 6A's and hang your hat all over that.:cool:

Also, dont write me back and ask me why I called you a "LOSER" ok "LOSER."

Piedy, the "Objective Master of Florida HS football" because he saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game at Walt Disney World almost 10 years ago.:rolleyes:

I love it too. Now I'm hanging my hat on BTW because they beat Summerville, SC I guess. I've only been saying for about a year now that they are annually a Top #3 Miami-Dade team regardless of class.

Again, I've only had my :Censor: sitting in the stands at Traz stadium watching BTW in person over the years but what the HELL do I know compared to an Objective master of Florida HS football like yourself because you saw Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford at Walt Disney. I bet you saw Mickey Mouse also so your probably more objective about him than me too.

[cajun]

I bet you saw Mickey Mouse also so your probably more objective about him than me too.

Mickey Mouse is/was 2A..

Just wanted to clear that up...

[Texasfrog]

Cant wait to see mighty midget Louisiana 3A (Richwood) vs Tx 3A Gilmer and how that end up this week.

I'm guessing since Richwood, La went deep into the Louisiana 3A playoffs last year they are one of those mighty midget 3A's in Louisiana that can play with many of the Texas 5A's.

We'll see how that one turns out ok. I'll be here to let you know Swamp-Rat.;)

[cajun]

Cant wait to see mighty midget Louisiana 3A (Richwood) vs Tx 3A Gilmer and how that end up this week.

I'm guessing since Richwood, La went deep into the Louisiana 3A playoffs last year they are one of those mighty midget 3A's in Louisiana that can play with many of the Texas 5A's.

We'll see how that one turns out ok. I'll be here to let you know Swamp-Rat.;)


That's your problem...You guess too much...You also read things in messages that just ain't there...

1-Richwood had a nice run last year in 3A football here...
2-Richwood is a basketball school....
3-Gilmer is 3A football power in Texas-ranked what 3 or 4?
4-Richwood probably not in the 3A top ten this year in Louisiana-will check though..
5-Gilmer probably win by 21-28 points....I believe Richwood will play them tough for a half, but run out of steam at the end...

Also, never said 3A here can play with 5A in Texas...I dunno where you dreamed that up..

I will say we have 3A teams right here in Louisiana that can beat Summerville, SC...That much I know....:D

[businesstron]

That's your problem...You guess too much...You also read things in messages that just ain't there...

1-Richwood had a nice run last year in 3A football here...
2-Richwood is a basketball school....
3-Gilmer is 3A football power in Texas-ranked what 3 or 4?
4-Richwood probably not in the 3A top ten this year in Louisiana-will check though..
5-Gilmer probably win by 21-28 points....I believe Richwood will play them tough for a half, but run out of steam at the end...

Also, never said 3A here can play with 5A in Texas...I dunno where you dreamed that up..

I will say we have 3A teams right here in Louisiana that can beat Summerville, SC...That much I know....:D


My parents graduated from Richwood. They were a pretty good football team in the 70s before they closed down. That should be I decent game. I atleast think Richwood is a decent team....atleast of playoff calibur. They've got the talent over there....don't know about the coaching though... I gotta alotta kenfolk that went through that school though.

[farmerfan]

Piedy "objective walt disney world east rutherford new jersey meadowlands blah blah blah" saw Mickey Mouse?
That's not fair. Did he see Kermit and Ms Piggy too?

[steeler 01]

Wow loser, I said they were a 6A huh ?? Go back and dig into the archives and find the thread there "loser" where I called BTW a 6A !! Love to see it.

I did make the mistake and call them a 5A but dont recall ever calling them a 6A. Please go archive through my 6,000 post and find it like you love to do ok "loser."

Also "loser" dont worry. I'm about ready to play your little game of taking sentences out of paragraphs so there basically taken totally out of context.;) :rolleyes:

Go find some Florida poster that wants to tell you how BTW really isnt that good and Hollywood Chaminade really arent that good compared to all the Dade 6A's and that none of the 3A's and 2A's in Florida can hang with the Dade 6A's and hang your hat all over that.:cool:

Also, dont write me back and ask me why I called you a "LOSER" ok "LOSER."

Piedy, the "Objective Master of Florida HS football" because he saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game at Walt Disney World almost 10 years ago.:rolleyes:

I love it too. Now I'm hanging my hat on BTW because they beat Summerville, SC I guess. I've only been saying for about a year now that they are annually a Top #3 Miami-Dade team regardless of class.

Again, I've only had my :Censor: sitting in the stands at Traz stadium watching BTW in person over the years but what the HELL do I know compared to an Objective master of Florida HS football like yourself because you saw Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford at Walt Disney. I bet you saw Mickey Mouse also so your probably more objective about him than me too.

how many tapps games did you see to make observations on those teams?the only thing you ever do is read dave's magazine and make assumptions.

[cajun]

I would love to see Lutcher(3A,La) play your best 3A team in Texas...Gilmer or whoever it is...

These videos are actually from 2005(all I could really find)...It features receiver Juan Johnson(Southern Miss, I think?) and QB Blaine Gautie(senior to be this year-no star QB)....Lutcher won our 3A Title last year beating Independence 28-14....

http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/video.asp?pkey=36765&section=fbrecruit&vidtype=prospect&vidid=49885
http://pelicanpreps.rivals.com/video.asp?pkey=36765&section=fbrecruit&vidtype=prospect&vidid=49886

Blaine Gautie(class of 2008)
LSU
Ole Miss
Purdue
Tulane

Defense?
Rolando Melancon video from last year..Rolando headed to Tennessee and was one of the DL who's name was called more than once in the Bayou Bowl last year-believe he had several sacks in the game.....

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/video.asp?pkey=43276&section=fbrecruit&vidtype=prospect&vidid=65238

The speed AND athletes of some of the 3A teams here will surprise people...It ain't all that bad...Lutcher would beat Summerville SC...and, Lutcher give Booker T(Miami) a good game as well...Lutcher can match up and put pressure both on offense on defense...Summerville could not match up...

[sldragondad]

Only 4000 people that was the Crowd? Hope they are ready for a Texassize Crowd. I can't remember when SLC played for 4000 must have been the 70's.

Last time played for 4000 was pee-wee:D

[Texasfrog]

how many tapps games did you see to make observations on those teams?the only thing you ever do is read dave's magazine and make assumptions.

Again, learn how to read. No tapps or tapes there Steeler. Like I said, I've been to the BTW games in person son. I've made my judgements and opinons about them by sitting in the stands watching them which is more than you ever have.

By the way.. are you going to start swearing again how Clovis really isnt that good blah blah blah and how their going to lose all these games blah blah before they play half of them. Maybe this time you'll get "SOME" of them right and not be wrong like 100% of the time.;) :rolleyes:

Like Midland Lee was going to get 2nd in their district blah blah blah when "OOPPS" they finished 3rd.

Like Clovis East really isnt that good and there is all these better then them and what was it ? Clovis West is going to destroy Clovis East and it wont even be a game blah blah. Well, you should of told Clovis West that huh becauese they got :Censor: kicked out of them by that Clovis East team.:D

But, your the one from California and you know. I believe that what you spouted like a 100 times. "LOOKS LIKE YOU REALLY DIDNT KNOW THAT :Censor: MUCH HUH MR. CALIFORNIA."

[cajun]

My parents graduated from Richwood. They were a pretty good football team in the 70s before they closed down. That should be I decent game. I atleast think Richwood is a decent team....atleast of playoff calibur. They've got the talent over there....don't know about the coaching though... I gotta alotta kenfolk that went through that school though.

Richwood always has some great athletes both in Football and Basketball...

I don't think the coaching is all that great in football at Richwood though...They were 8-5 last year in football and slipped up on some folks in the playoffs..Had a nice run losing in the Quarterfinals....

On the basketball side...Richwood(3A) was 26-14 last year and hung tough with Duncanville (TX) who was 39-0 in 5A down Texas way finally losing by the score 87-79...

I hope Richwood gives Gilmer a good game!...In reality, Gilmer probably alittle too strong for Richwood...

[steeler 01]

Again, learn how to read. No tapps or tapes there Steeler. Like I said, I've been to the BTW games in person son. I've made my judgements and opinons about them by sitting in the stands watching them which is more than you ever have.

By the way.. are you going to start swearing again how Clovis really isnt that good blah blah blah and how their going to lose all these games blah blah before they play half of them. Maybe this time you'll get "SOME" of them right and not be wrong like 100% of the time.;) :rolleyes:

Like Midland Lee was going to get 2nd in their district blah blah blah when "OOPPS" they finished 3rd.

Like Clovis East really isnt that good and there is all these better then them and what was it ? Clovis West is going to destroy Clovis East and it wont even be a game blah blah. Well, you should of told Clovis West that huh becauese they got :Censor: kicked out of them by that Clovis East team.:D

But, your the one from California and you know. I believe that what you spouted like a 100 times. "LOOKS LIKE YOU REALLY DIDNT KNOW THAT :Censor: MUCH HUH MR. CALIFORNIA."

I'm talking about how you call people out about watching games and making assumpions. yet, you say how a certain TAPPS school would be pretty good in 4a and farmerfan who has seen many TAPPS games tells you they wouldn't be a good 4a school and you've never seen any TAPPS schools play but your argument is valid.your a comedian.

[steeler 01]

how many time have you seen clovis east play in person?

[Texasfrog]

How bad is that mighty midget Richwood, La (3A) team going to beat up on that no good sorry Texas (3A) team Gilmer this week.

I mean since many of the Louisiana 3A's can hang with some of the stronger Texas 5A's "hahahaha LOL" than I'm expecting Richwood to put a nice butt stomping on little ole Gilmer, Tx.

Shoot, anything smaller than a 25 pt win for mighty midget Richwood, La is unexceptable.;) ;) :rolleyes:

How did it go Mangie Swamp-Rat. Those Texas 5A's would have to prove it on the football field against some of the Louisiana 3A's. Prove it on the field.

PS. Maybe they'll make up for the butt-thrashing that a (6-4) Marshall, Tx 4A team put on Byrd, La (5A) ranked team last year. How bad did that Texas 4A team beat the Byrd. What was it like 47-10 or something.

:Censor: I dont know how a non-playoff Texas 4A team (marshall) could beat a Louisiana 5A ranked playoff team by freaking 40 pts. I'm just dont get it.

[Texasfrog]

I'm talking about how you call people out about watching games and making assumpions. yet, you say how a certain TAPPS school would be pretty good in 4a and farmerfan who has seen many TAPPS games tells you they wouldn't be a good 4a school and you've never seen any TAPPS schools play but your argument is valid.your a comedian.

Uhhhh, duhh. I've seen TAPPS school play there amigo. I just havent seen St.Pius X play in person. Since you want to bring FF into the equation why dont you ask him how many times he's seen St.Pius X play in person ok.

I make my assumption about St.Pius X being a pretty good Texas 4A team by the mear fact that they've beaten almost every Texas 4A team they've played against the last 2 or 3 years. I think their like (6-1) or something like that against Texas 4A's. So, I think it's pretty obvious they can play with many Texas 4A teams. Now, again "pretty good", "scrappy" or not the same as being a dominate Texas 4A power. I do think in "EVERY" Texas 4A district they would be a playoff team. But, since 4 teams in each district make the playoffs today that really not much of a major feat (IMO).

Again, ask FF how many times he's seen St.Pius X play in person or on tape ok since he's the obvious subject matter expert on St.Pius X.;) :rolleyes:

I'll let their record against Texas UIL teams by my indicator.;)

[Texasfrog]

how many time have you seen clovis east play in person?

None... but I also wasnt the one spouting out how they really werent that good and how they were going to lose this game and that game and wouldnt do this or that.

Because when it was all said and done they didnt lose any of those games you kept spouting out they would lose and they went deeper into the playoffs then you claimed they would.

They also didnt just beat Clovis West they kicked the :Censor: out of Clovis West didnt they. I didnt have to see it buddy. I could look at the Final Score, Box Score and Stats to get a pretty good picture of the game. What was it ? Like 35-7 Clovis East over CW after you ran your mouth for weeks that Clovis West would destroy CE.

On top of you spouting how Midland Lee was the 2nd best team that year in their district. Well, you forgot to tell Midland Lee that because they finished 3rd that year.

Also, I did see one of the Clovis teams play once on tape. It was against Tulsa Union and Tulsa Union kicked the living :Censor: out of them.;)

[cajun]

How bad is that mighty midget Richwood, La (3A) team going to beat up on that no good sorry Texas (3A) team Gilmer this week.

I mean since many of the Louisiana 3A's can hang with some of the stronger Texas 5A's "hahahaha LOL" than I'm expecting Richwood to put a nice butt stomping on little ole Gilmer, Tx.

Shoot, anything smaller than a 25 pt win for mighty midget Richwood, La is unexceptable.;) ;) :rolleyes:

How did it go Mangie Swamp-Rat. Those Texas 5A's would have to prove it on the football field against some of the Louisiana 3A's. Prove it on the field.

PS. Maybe they'll make up for the butt-thrashing that a (6-4) Marshall, Tx 4A team put on Byrd, La (5A) ranked team last year. How bad did that Texas 4A team beat the Byrd. What was it like 47-10 or something.

:Censor: I dont know how a non-playoff Texas 4A team (marshall) could beat a Louisiana 5A ranked playoff team by freaking 40 pts. I'm just dont get it.

Where do you get this stuff at?...

You just make up sh^T as you go?

[steeler 01]

Uhhhh, duhh. I've seen TAPPS school play there amigo. I just havent seen St.Pius X play in person. Since you want to bring FF into the equation why dont you ask him how many times he's seen St.Pius X play in person ok.

I make my assumption about St.Pius X being a pretty good Texas 4A team by the mear fact that they've beaten almost every Texas 4A team they've played against the last 2 or 3 years. I think their like (6-1) or something like that against Texas 4A's. So, I think it's pretty obvious they can play with many Texas 4A teams. Now, again "pretty good", "scrappy" or not the same as being a dominate Texas 4A power. I do think in "EVERY" Texas 4A district they would be a playoff team. But, since 4 teams in each district make the playoffs today that really not much of a major feat (IMO).

Again, ask FF how many times he's seen St.Pius X play in person or on tape ok since he's the obvious subject matter expert on St.Pius X.;) :rolleyes:

I'll let their record against Texas UIL teams by my indicator.;)

so by st. pius x beating these 4a teams they'd be good in 4a in your opinion.these teams were a combined 6-24.

bay city(2-8)42-0
vidor(3-7)27-7
foster(1-9)20-13 barely beat a 1-9 team

[maxtor]

One thing that I have noticed in watching teams play is how difficult it is to judge how well they will do against each other until you see them on the field together. Of course that is exactly why they play the games.


So true. BTW put a whoopin on SC. SC looked pretty bad. But the again great teams make opponents look bad. So you just dont ever know until they play. I watched the SC/BTW game and BTW looked fast and strong and to tell you the truth was a bit intimidated by them. But when all was said and done I thought that if SLC played that SC team whos secondary was always lost and couldnt tackle or block that SLC would have been ahead 33-7 at the half.
We just have to wait and see.

[steeler 01]

i'll go even further

2005 st. pius played these 4a's

dickinson(0-8)20-19 wow a 1 point squeaker
reagan(4-6)44-20

2004

dickinson(3-6)27-16
reagan(5-6)39-22
jones(9-2)lost 19-12 this team lost in the first round only team with a winning record they ever played and guess what they lost.

they played teams with a combined record of 27-52 34% winning percentage, and you think they'd do good. so by beating up on sorry teams you came to the conclusion they'd be a pretty good team.

[Texasfrog]

so by st. pius x beating these 4a teams they'd be good in 4a in your opinion.these teams were a combined 6-24.

bay city(2-8)42-0
vidor(3-7)27-7
foster(1-9)20-13 barely beat a 1-9 team

A wins a win. If it's by 1 pt or 40 pts. I suggest you look at those same teams there and look at how some of the other Texas 4A playoff teams did against Bay City, Vidor and Foster and you'll see some similiar point spreads as St. Pius X.

Again, do I think St. Pius X would go 15-0 and win the Texas 4A State Title. No, not even close.

Do I think St. Pius X could go (6-4) or even (7-3) in many Texas 4A districts and maybe go a round or two in the playoffs before bowing out. "YES."

I still think it's funny how St.Pius X went freaking (3-0) last year against Texas 4A teams and there is still a few of y'all that want to claim they cant play against Texas 4A teams. "JUST WOW.";) :rolleyes:

[steeler 01]

A wins a win. If it's by 1 pt or 40 pts. I suggest you look at those same teams there and look at how some of the other Texas 4A playoff teams did against Bay City, Vidor and Foster and you'll see some similiar point spreads as St. Pius X.

Again, do I think St. Pius X would go 15-0 and win the Texas 4A State Title. No, not even close.

Do I think St. Pius X could go (6-4) or even (7-3) in many Texas 4A districts and maybe go a round or two in the playoffs before bowing out. "YES."

I still think it's funny how St.Pius X went freaking (3-0) last year against Texas 4A teams and there is still a few of y'all that want to claim they cant play against Texas 4A teams. "JUST WOW.";) :rolleyes:

i don't think anybody said they can't beat 4a teams they just wouldn't be good. if you play teams that have a combined record of 6-24 your obviously playing some very weak teams. if their was a 4a team beating up on all the weak 5a teams would that make them a very good 5a team in your eyes? Let's take for example Galena Park. They played these 5a teams.

2004

Houston(1-8)42-7
Austin(0-10)55-14

2005

Houston(0-10)49-0
Austin(1-9)57-0

2006

Channelview(3-7)35-28

Am i supposed to conclude that they'd be a very good 5A team?

[Texasfrog]

i don't think anybody said they can't beat 4a teams they just wouldn't be good. if you play teams that have a combined record of 6-24 your obviously playing some very weak teams. if their was a 4a team beating up on all the weak 5a teams would that make them a very good 5a team in your eyes? Let's take for example Galena Park. They played these 5a teams.

2004

Houston(1-8)42-7
Austin(0-10)55-14

2005

Houston(0-10)49-0
Austin(1-9)57-0

2006

Channelview(3-7)35-28

Am i supposed to conclude that they'd be a very good 5A team?

So, let me use your brilliant logic ok Steeler since St.Pius X wins against Texas 4A teams Vidor, Bay City and Foster dont mean much.

Then I guess other Texas 4A playoff teams wins dont mean much either.

St. Pius X beats Bay City 42-0.

(11-2) Brenham beat Bay City 56-27 Note: Brenham was #1 in 4A most year.
(13-1) Lamar Cons beat Bay City 57-0 : St. Pius probably isnt beating them.
(8-3) El Campo beat Bay City 42-20.

Guess Brenham and El Campo 4A playoff teams suck because St.Pius X beat Bay City worse then those two teams did. One of those teams was #1 in Texas 4A most of the year.;)

St. Pius X beat Vidor 27-7.

(8-4) Beaumont Central beat Vidor 38-34
(6-6) Nederland beat Vidor 28-24

Guess those two Texas 4A playoff teams suck.

St. Pius X beat Foster 20-13.

(7-4) Terry beat Foster 24-13.

Maybe that (7-4) Terry 4A team really sucked.

Again, I dont think I ever said St.Pius X would be a Texas 4A State Champ.
I do however think they would be a Texas 4A playoff team most years if they played in Texas 4A.

Next, dont try to tell me that Clovis East (9-2) was some sorry team. They lost to Clovis 24-9 but it's the same Clovis team they beat 23-21.

They also beat Clovis West 34-7. Clovis West beat the mighty DLS 7-0.

Bakersfield was the Sectional Champs by beating Bullard 35-28. Bullard lost to Clovis East earlier 25-15 and even Bakersfield lost to Clovis.

What does it all tell me that year. Clovis East, Clovis West, Bullard, Clovis, Bakersfield were just about even on any Friday night. You know else would be even that year with those 5 teams ? 3rd place Midland Lee who took Clovis East to 2 OT and lost because of missed PAT. All those teams on any Friday night in 2005 could of beaten each other and most of the games would of been 4 QT battles. LIKE IT OR NOT.;)

[farmerfan]

How bad is that mighty midget Richwood, La (3A) team going to beat up on that no good sorry Texas (3A) team Gilmer this week.

I mean since many of the Louisiana 3A's can hang with some of the stronger Texas 5A's "hahahaha LOL" than I'm expecting Richwood to put a nice butt stomping on little ole Gilmer, Tx.

Shoot, anything smaller than a 25 pt win for mighty midget Richwood, La is unexceptable.;) ;) :rolleyes:

How did it go Mangie Swamp-Rat. Those Texas 5A's would have to prove it on the football field against some of the Louisiana 3A's. Prove it on the field.

PS. Maybe they'll make up for the butt-thrashing that a (6-4) Marshall, Tx 4A team put on Byrd, La (5A) ranked team last year. How bad did that Texas 4A team beat the Byrd. What was it like 47-10 or something.

:Censor: I dont know how a non-playoff Texas 4A team (marshall) could beat a Louisiana 5A ranked playoff team by freaking 40 pts. I'm just dont get it.

What in the frog hill is he talking about here?
This is too funny. Cajun you're in his head buddy. :D

[farmerfan]

so by st. pius x beating these 4a teams they'd be good in 4a in your opinion.these teams were a combined 6-24.

bay city(2-8)42-0
vidor(3-7)27-7
foster(1-9)20-13 barely beat a 1-9 team

I believe he said they would be a top 15-20 team in 4A.
Also inform our friend here that only 3 teams go to the playoffs in 4A.
I can promise you that St Pius would not make the playoffs in the Denton district, the Frisco/McKinney district, the Ennis/Corisicana/Waxahachie district, the Aledo/Stephenville district, the Waco/Cove/Brownwood district and many more. Just not happening. The TAPPS schools just don't have the depth to compete with those teams.
I've also seen Pius play numerous times something else our amphibian hasn't. Of course as you have pointed out steeler that argument is only valid when he is making it.

[syzygy]

Slc 42 Mnw 20

[KT2000]

Guys, (frog, steeler, etc.), stop taking these arguments from national thread to national thread on here. I will start issuing bans if it continues.

[DragonFan0316]

"We simply took them lightly. We thought they had quit." :confused:

Words from the legendary Billy Rolle. :rolleyes:


This is the way they should take SLC. Lightly. We can't hold a candle to FL HS football. We are slow and can't hit.:p :p

[SLC93]

This is the way they should take SLC. Lightly. We can't hold a candle to FL HS football. We are slow and can't hit.:p :p

I'm not one to make a mountain out of a mole hill but I can't believe a coach would be quoted as saying that, most especially a "great" coach. Underestimating an opponent & relaxing in game are a direct reflection of a squads preparation & coaching. Before we get any apologists that will argue this is new staff getting ready for a season on short time, I'll remind you that they were up 31-7. There didn't appear to be any adjustment time or unfamiliarity at that point.

[pied]

I'm not one to make a mountain out of a mole hill but I can't believe a coach would be quoted as saying that, most especially a "great" coach. Underestimating an opponent & relaxing in game are a direct reflection of a squads preparation & coaching. Before we get any apologists that will argue this is new staff getting ready for a season on short time, I'll remind you that they were up 31-7. There didn't appear to be any adjustment time or unfamiliarity at that point.

Not that I would want my coach making those comments, but this was a scrimmage and the game does not "count". They are still 0-0 for the season.

[dada]

I believe he said they would be a top 15-20 team in 4A.
Also inform our friend here that only 3 teams go to the playoffs in 4A.
I can promise you that St Pius would not make the playoffs in the Denton district, the Frisco/McKinney district, the Ennis/Corisicana/Waxahachie district, the Aledo/Stephenville district, the Waco/Cove/Brownwood district and many more. Just not happening. The TAPPS schools just don't have the depth to compete with those teams.
I've also seen Pius play numerous times something else our amphibian hasn't. Of course as you have pointed out steeler that argument is only valid when he is making it.

With the weak 4a districts in the Houston area...playing against the teams like Milby, Austin, Davis, Reagan, Washington and Waltrip...I think St.Pius would be OK...they probably COULD win district, but that's not saying much...I think the teams Like LaMarque, Lamar Cons and the outer area 4a's would be too much for them.....I seem them having no trouble in Houston however.

[toddg]

read on rivals that the QB is the "de facto" off. coordinator.....hope the southlake def. coordinator can match up...

[DragonFan0316]

read on rivals that the QB is the "de facto" off. coordinator.....hope the southlake def. coordinator can match up...

Who is he? Peyton Manning or Johnny Unitas? This can't be the truth. It is too diffcult for the pros these days to call plays and execute at the same time. They must have a coordinator.

[toddg]

Who is he? Peyton Manning or Johnny Unitas? This can't be the truth. It is too diffcult for the pros these days to call plays and execute at the same time. They must have a coordinator.

quote from rivals; "
"Harris will also serve as the de facto offensive coordinator this fall after the entire Northwestern coaching staff was dismissed in late July, but he's not sweating it with 6-2 Aldarius Johnson and 6-5 Tom Streeter back at wideout.":eek:

must be tough for a 17-18 y/o kid to formulate an offensive game plan and then execute it too..

[SLC93]

Not that I would want my coach making those comments, but this was a scrimmage and the game does not "count". They are still 0-0 for the season.

Still, 41pts? Defense is Rolle's specialty, too. Even the much maligned Carroll defenses of recent years never surrendered 41 in a game/scrimmage.

[dada]

Still, 41pts? Defense is Rolle's specialty, too. Even the much maligned Carroll defenses of recent years never surrendered 41 in a game/scrimmage.

It was a scrimmage....it didnt matter. It only matters when MNW beats a team 75-0 in a scrimmage....that's when it matters. Just like the spring game.:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

quote from rivals; "
"Harris will also serve as the de facto offensive coordinator this fall after the entire Northwestern coaching staff was dismissed in late July, but he's not sweating it with 6-2 Aldarius Johnson and 6-5 Tom Streeter back at wideout.":eek:

must be tough for a 17-18 y/o kid to formulate an offensive game plan and then execute it too..

Not surprising, though. Rolle agreed not to change anything offensively when he took the job. The system they run is not Rolle's offense. Given the time they had to put a staff together & Harris's ability/knowledge in the system, I can see where he may have alot more freedom than most at the hs level. He'll have a coach adivising, I'm sure. If not then things could get interesting.

[Texasfrog]

It was a scrimmage....it didnt matter. It only matters when MNW beats a team 75-0 in a scrimmage....that's when it matters. Just like the spring game.:rolleyes:

Actually in the Spring game I believe the score was 28-14 at halftime against a Belle Glades team that was replacing almost everyone on offense.

[Texasfrog]

Not surprising, though. Rolle agreed not to change anything offensively when he took the job. The system they run is not Rolle's offense. Given the time they had to put a staff together & Harris's ability/knowledge in the system, I can see where he may have alot more freedom than most at the hs level. He'll have a coach adivising, I'm sure. If not then things could get interesting.

Well, if the QB-Harris is going to be the so called OC that tells me one thing. He'll be calling a pass play on almost every down.

[SLC93]

It was a scrimmage....it didnt matter. It only matters when MNW beats a team 75-0 in a scrimmage....that's when it matters. Just like the spring game.:rolleyes:

That's right. I completely forgot. No reason to raise an eyebrow when the best team in hs football history gives up 41. I'm such a rook. :D ;)

[SLC93]

Well, if the QB-Harris is going to be the so called OC that tells me one thing. He'll be calling a pass play on almost every down.

If he is calling the plays, it will only help the Carroll defense.

[Texasfrog]

If he is calling the plays, it will only help the Carroll defense.

No kidding !! I've never heard of a HS kid calling he's own plays. This will get very interesting really fast.;)

Somehow I see alot of 9 routes being run.;)

[Texasfrog]

That's right. I completely forgot. No reason to raise an eyebrow when the best team in hs football history gives up 41. I'm such a rook. :D ;)

Well, Deerfield is probably the #3 best team of all-time. I'm assuming BTW is now the #2 best team of all time and of coarse MNW is the clear #1 team of all time.;)

[toddg]

No kidding !! I've never heard of a HS kid calling he's own plays. This will get very interesting really fast.;)

Somehow I see alot of 9 routes being run.;)

dont forget...he knows the carroll offense, and will be helping the bull defense as well.

[KT2000]

From what I've heard about Harris, he has a good understanding of the game and obviously knows his offense very well. However, from watching some of last year's NW team on film I saw a pretty basic scheme. It looked like all of the passes were single reads. His main option is either open, or he runs around until someone gets open. There's not much more to it than that. I'm not overly impressed with J. Harris' arm strength based on the videos I saw, but he can generally get the ball where it needs to be. Most of the teams in the videos I saw played their WRs way off, so they threw a bunch of quick hitters. Booker T did that in their game against Summerville last weekend. The NW offense keeps things simple and tries to let the playmakers make plays. If the Dragons are strong in their open field play, they will be fine on defense in my opinion. The front seven is good enough to control the ground game.

[toddg]

From what I've heard about Harris, he has a good understanding of the game and obviously knows his offense very well. However, from watching some of last year's NW team on film I saw a pretty basic scheme. It looked like all of the passes were single reads. His main option is either open, or he runs around until someone gets open. There's not much more to it than that. I'm not overly impressed with J. Harris' arm strength based on the videos I saw, but he can generally get the ball where it needs to be. Most of the teams in the videos I saw played their WRs way off, so they threw a bunch of quick hitters. Booker T did that in their game against Summerville last weekend. The NW offense keeps things simple and tries to let the playmakers make plays. If the Dragons are strong in their open field play, they will be fine on defense in my opinion. The front seven is good enough to control the ground game.

i saw some of his camp footage, he has good accuracy and his footwork isnt bad..he needs to gain weight..but his frame may be so he cant. and you are right on the one read, doesnt seem he goes through progressions and i didnt see a lot of "time" routes and passes.....the recievers run very jagged, sloppy routes.

[SLC93]

From what I've heard about Harris, he has a good understanding of the game and obviously knows his offense very well. However, from watching some of last year's NW team on film I saw a pretty basic scheme. It looked like all of the passes were single reads. His main option is either open, or he runs around until someone gets open. There's not much more to it than that. I'm not overly impressed with J. Harris' arm strength based on the videos I saw, but he can generally get the ball where it needs to be. Most of the teams in the videos I saw played their WRs way off, so they threw a bunch of quick hitters. Booker T did that in their game against Summerville last weekend. The NW offense keeps things simple and tries to let the playmakers make plays. If the Dragons are strong in their open field play, they will be fine on defense in my opinion. The front seven is good enough to control the ground game.

If we had a smiley ringing a bell or hitting a nail on the head I would give to you, my friend.:D

[Sakatha]

Who is he? Peyton Manning or Johnny Unitas? This can't be the truth. It is too diffcult for the pros these days to call plays and execute at the same time. They must have a coordinator.

It was made clear to us that he is indeed a more tan Peyton Manning earlier in another thread...

~DnM

[businesstron]

From what I've heard about Harris, he has a good understanding of the game and obviously knows his offense very well. However, from watching some of last year's NW team on film I saw a pretty basic scheme. It looked like all of the passes were single reads. His main option is either open, or he runs around until someone gets open. There's not much more to it than that. I'm not overly impressed with J. Harris' arm strength based on the videos I saw, but he can generally get the ball where it needs to be. Most of the teams in the videos I saw played their WRs way off, so they threw a bunch of quick hitters. Booker T did that in their game against Summerville last weekend. The NW offense keeps things simple and tries to let the playmakers make plays. If the Dragons are strong in their open field play, they will be fine on defense in my opinion. The front seven is good enough to control the ground game.

I thought it was just me. His field scanning ability was questionable last year. Then again look who he's throwing too... Kind of like Dante in Minnesota with Moss. If he's an elite QB I think he'll improve that this year.

I think those Florida schools play basic schemes because of the athleticism and talent they have. In besides Florida most college teams in Florida use pretty standard formations.

For some season I thought his father was the Offensive Coordinator?

[Texasfrog]

It was made clear to us that he is indeed a more tan Peyton Manning earlier in another thread...

~DnM

He's basically Peyton Manning and Coach Myers mixed into one HS QB kid.:D

Anyway, I agree with everyone else. I saw 1 game of MNW last year and a lot of streaming video of a couple of other games. There were basically three passes. 9 & 7 routes or quick passes to the slot Wr when the DB's were 10 yards off basically giving up a quick 7 yards or more.

He had "one read" and if that wasnt there he moved around some until the "one read" got open. He never checked down to someone underneath. It was always the Primary read or basically nothing.

They never threw "screens" or anything to the RB's. I dont recall seeing any crossing patterns or drags.

It's all basically "bombs" or "fade" type of patterns for the most part.

He is pretty accurate with giving he's WR's a chance. He'll put the ball in the area. In the 6A State Title game he forced a few balls and was lucky he didnt have a few interceptions. He did have one picked off in the endzone that he tried to force. It was basically a 9 route pass.

If I was SLC I would really try to control the running game with the front 7 and rotate my secondary a lot from a Man to Zone look.

[SLC93]

I thought it was just me. His field scanning ability was questionable last year. Then again look who he's throwing too... Kind of like Dante in Minnesota with Moss. If he's an elite QB I think he'll improve that this year.

I think those Florida schools play basic schemes because of the athleticism and talent they have. In besides Florida most college teams in Florida use pretty standard formations.

For some season I thought his father was the Offensive Coordinator?

He was but was dismissed with rest of the coaching staff. There had been a rumor that he was kept which sparked a serious favoritism debate here awhile back. It has since been reported that he is not onstaff at MNW.

[Texasfrog]

He was but was dismissed with rest of the coaching staff. There had been a rumor that he was kept which sparked a serious favoritism debate here awhile back. It has since been reported that he is not onstaff at MNW.

Check the booth during the game and see who has a microphone on !! I wont be surprised.

It's real easy to "volunteer coach.";)

[Texasfrog]

He was but was dismissed with rest of the coaching staff. There had been a rumor that he was kept which sparked a serious favoritism debate here awhile back. It has since been reported that he is not onstaff at MNW.

Double post.. Dang it.

[KT2000]

Then again look who he's throwing too... Kind of like Dante in Minnesota with Moss. If he's an elite QB I think he'll improve that this year.

Couple that with the fact there are maybe 2-3 teams in Florida who can challenge them at all. This will be a big adjustment for Harris, as it is for many other QBs around the country, to make at the next level. At Miami, he'll obviously be surrounded my exceptional talent but the talent he's facing will obviously be exponentially improved. He will have to learn to make multiple progressions in a matter of a few seconds.

[drgnbkr]

I will tell you that Elite 11, which selected him for their camp did so after watching him in competition with QB's from all over the country. The kid has something, and some pretty strong weapons at his disposal. If the coach can game plan something he can execute, he will be a force on the 15th, and a big challenge to the Carroll Defense.

[toddg]

I will tell you that Elite 11, which selected him for their camp did so after watching him in competition with QB's from all over the country. The kid has something, and some pretty strong weapons at his disposal. If the coach can game plan something he can execute, he will be a force on the 15th, and a big challenge to the Carroll Defense.

what coach? he is the offensive coach:)

[drgnbkr]

what coach? he is the offensive coach:)

Well, there is that...:)

[pied]

I will tell you that Elite 11, which selected him for their camp did so after watching him in competition with QB's from all over the country. The kid has something, and some pretty strong weapons at his disposal. If the coach can game plan something he can execute, he will be a force on the 15th, and a big challenge to the Carroll Defense.

It seems to me, people are projecting him into RD's role.

When I watched MNW I was not blown away by their scheme but it was effective. JH will not have to make the reads RD does, only the ones he is responsible for which many fels he does a great job.

This thread kind of reminds me of some of the threads by ou/tOSU/a$m/USC fans prior to playing VY. Note Harris is no VY, no one is, I am just aking the comparison to the talk about the simple routes etc.

[SLC93]

It seems to me, people are projecting him into RD's role.

When I watched MNW I was not blown away by their scheme but it was effective. JH will not have to make the reads RD does, only the ones he is responsible for which many fels he does a great job.

This thread kind of reminds me of some of the threads by ou/tOSU/a$m/USC fans prior to playing VY. Note Harris is no VY, no one is, I am just aking the comparison to the talk about the simple routes etc.

:eek: :D

[rich_pack]

Ok, I now change my pick to
SLC- 56
MNW-27

[showdownon9/15]

He was but was dismissed with rest of the coaching staff. There had been a rumor that he was kept which sparked a serious favoritism debate here awhile back. It has since been reported that he is not onstaff at MNW.

Really?? That's weird because I see him out there everyday in practice coaching on defensive size of ball. Lets not wake a sleeping giant now. The only lesson NW has to learn is to kill the opponent like they usually do. Game was 31-7 with six mins left in 2nd qtr. When the experimenting and rotating other players in secondary took place that changed the game. Deerfield is a very good team but clearly NW let up. Is that Deerfield or anyone's fault?? No not at all. Think this just wakes up the sleeping giant and they kill everybody. Reality check game thats all. They will be fine. BTW JH called the entire game. And I believe one of our rb's #21 had over 200 yds rushing and #4 had over 150. Does not look like all Harris did was throw the ball. He called a good game. Offense was not challenged so coaches let him call whole game. Defense will be fine.

[SLC93]

Really?? That's weird because I see him out there everyday in practice coaching on defensive size of ball. Lets not wake a sleeping giant now. The only lesson NW has to learn is to kill the opponent like they usually do. Game was 31-7 with six mins left in 2nd qtr. When the experimenting and rotating other players in secondary took place that changed the game. Deerfield is a very good team but clearly NW let up. Is that Deerfield or anyone's fault?? No not at all. Think this just wakes up the sleeping giant and they kill everybody. Reality check game thats all. They will be fine. BTW JH called the entire game. And I believe one of our rb's #21 had over 200 yds rushing and #4 had over 150. Does not look like all Harris did was throw the ball. He called a good game. Offense was not challenged so coaches let him call whole game. Defense will be fine.

So your offensive coordinator from last year got to keep his job because we didn't want to hiss off the star qb but y'all have him coaching defense now? Hey, your legendary hc summed it up best when he said they underestimated an opponent & thought they would just quit. That's a tendency your staff better get a handle on fast. We'd love to see a JH called game come 9/15.

[dragonsdaddy]

So your offensive coordinator from last year got to keep his job because we didn't want to hiss off the star qb but y'all have him coaching defense now? Hey, your legendary hc summed it up best when he said they underestimated an opponent & thought they would just quit. That's a tendency your staff better get a handle on fast. We'd love to see a JH called game come 9/15.
will he be easy to catalog? his tendencies may be harder to read after only 2 games as oc, but i suspect we'll figure it out soon enough.
with the developing defense slc will have, the dc's role will be paramount, as it always is, but moreso with a young group.

[drgnbkr]

Don't misunderestimate the Dragons! You might get burned.....:D

[SLC93]

Don't misunderestimate the Dragons! You might get burned.....:D

I'm saying let Carroll get on an offensive roll like that while you're on the road playing in front of 20-30 thousand & I'm not sure you come out on the winning end of that stick.:D

[drgnbkr]

I'm saying let Carroll get on an offensive roll like that while you're on the road playing in front of 20-30 thousand & I'm not sure you come out on the winning end of that stick.:D

What he said!:D

[Humblefied]

ok guys you better quote me on this one...

The dragons win...

:puke :puke

ok, i think im good now.

[drgnbkr]

They gave up 41 points.....:eek:

[BigRing5311]

They gave up 41 points.....:eek:

Lay low boys...it's time to start getting real quiet.

[Texasfrog]

So your offensive coordinator from last year got to keep his job because we didn't want to hiss off the star qb but y'all have him coaching defense now? Hey, your legendary hc summed it up best when he said they underestimated an opponent & thought they would just quit. That's a tendency your staff better get a handle on fast. We'd love to see a JH called game come 9/15.

That's how things are done down in South Florida (Dade Co) anyway. Some of the crap I saw living there for almost 3 years was just insane.

Anyway, Coach Harris was fired and released. But, he was rehired as the DC.;) :rolleyes: That's the South Florida way..

It's almost like the South Florida HS free-agency period that according to some South Florida people really doesnt happen.

[SLC93]

That's how things are done down in South Florida (Dade Co) anyway. Some of the crap I saw living there for almost 3 years was just insane.

Anyway, Coach Harris was fired and released. But, he was rehired as the DC.;) :rolleyes: That's the South Florida way..

It's almost like the South Florida HS free-agency period that according to some South Florida people really doesnt happen.

Well we have these posts from guys that are at the MNW practices everyday so I don't know why I bother. All I can do is post what I have read from the Miami papers or scene on film. Guess that makes me underqualified.;) :rolleyes:

[showdownon9/15]

So your offensive coordinator from last year got to keep his job because we didn't want to hiss off the star qb but y'all have him coaching defense now? Hey, your legendary hc summed it up best when he said they underestimated an opponent & thought they would just quit. That's a tendency your staff better get a handle on fast. We'd love to see a JH called game come 9/15.


Jacorry's dad never coached offense. He was lb's coach last year. Don't know where you are getting you info from but it's not accurate.

[SLC93]

Jacorry's dad never coached offense. He was lb's coach last year. Don't know where you are getting you info from but it's not accurate.

Miami Herald, I'll try and find a link. How did he manage to get around the dismissal of the "entire" staff? If you say it's because he's some volunteer, I'm gonna :puke .

[drgnbkr]

Jacorry's dad never coached offense. He was lb's coach last year. Don't know where you are getting you info from but it's not accurate.

Maybe he ought to switch to the offense if thats all they've got on defense! 41 points?:eek:

[DragonFan0316]

Maybe he ought to switch to the offense if thats all they've got on defense! 41 points?:eek:

Does anyone think that the new staff on top of having to travel from Miami to Dallas will slow this MNW jargonut down a little? I used to hate a 1/2 hour bus ride.

[pied]

Does anyone think that the new staff on top of having to travel from Miami to Dallas will slow this MNW jargonut down a little? I used to hate a 1/2 hour bus ride.

It has to have an effect. It could be a positive effect, an "us against the world" type thing. Not sure I would bet that way though.

Prior to that mess, I felt that the turnover, specifically on the defensive side of the ball, of the Dragon staff would have an impact. Based on that reasoning, turnign over the whole staff in the manner that it was done will affect these young men in my opinion.