View Full Version : 2007 Oklahoma Prediction
cajun
08-21-2007, 07:45 PM
Sat, Sep 1 North Texas
Sat, Sep 8 Miami (FL) LOSS
Sat, Sep 15 Utah State
Fri, Sep 21 at Tulsa
Sat, Sep 29 at Colorado
Sat, Oct 6 at Texas LOSS
Sat, Oct 13 Missouri
Sat, Oct 20 at Iowa State
Sat, Nov 3 Texas A&M LOSS
Sat, Nov 10 Baylor
Sat, Nov 17 at Texas Tech
Sat, Nov 24 Oklahoma State LOSS
Oklahoma 8-4 goes to the Alamo Bowl and loses in 4 OT's to Hawaii
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Oklahoma Sooners 57
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Hawaii Warriors 58
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FarmerFootballPlayer
08-21-2007, 07:47 PM
I'd take'em over Miami and even Texas A&M. I'd pick them 9-3, losing to OSU, Texas, and Mizzou.
cajun
08-21-2007, 08:15 PM
I'd take'em over Miami and even Texas A&M. I'd pick them 9-3, losing to OSU, Texas, and Mizzou.
You could be right...
Miami is sorta my sleeper team this year...Gonna take them...I think AM gonna be better than people think too...
Just my opinion...
Favpack
08-21-2007, 08:18 PM
I think they lose to Miami, Texas and TTech, but they may beat Miami.
I hope Stoopsie looks constipated all year - which is normal for him.
dragonsdaddy
08-21-2007, 08:32 PM
the numbers may be right, but not the victims. tamu won't scratch in norman. i'll predict a loss to euther mizzou or tt.
WestPlano006
08-21-2007, 09:15 PM
i like how all of you think texas is some juggernaut that nobody can touch
Humblefied
08-21-2007, 09:16 PM
You think Hawaii does the statue of liberty play too?
twcpfan1
08-21-2007, 09:18 PM
i like how all of you think texas is some juggernaut that nobody can touch
I don't. They'll lose to Oklahoma.
svhorns
08-21-2007, 09:20 PM
i like how all of you think texas is some juggernaut that nobody can touch
theres no thinking... we just know...
cajun
08-21-2007, 09:26 PM
You think Hawaii does the statue of liberty play too?
If they don't they may want to learn it....:D
Humblefied
08-21-2007, 09:28 PM
i like how all of you think texas is some juggernaut that nobody can touch
You don't? Just kidding.
but seriously, all their offensive weapons are returning and most of them are proven to be good. They always bring a good defense if not outstanding and they may be young there but they have some real potential. It's just Texas being a little cocky which is expected.
WestPlano006
08-22-2007, 03:10 AM
You don't? Just kidding.
but seriously, all their offensive weapons are returning and most of them are proven to be good. They always bring a good defense if not outstanding and they may be young there but they have some real potential. It's just Texas being a little cocky which is expected.
If Texas had a proven O-line, it would be a whole new story
HebronHawk
08-22-2007, 08:23 AM
If Texas had a proven O-line, it would be a whole new story
Derek Lokey is pretty good.
dragonsdaddy
08-22-2007, 08:27 AM
Derek Lokey is pretty good.
d lokey is a dl, not ol.
HebronHawk
08-22-2007, 08:29 AM
d lokey is a dl, not ol.
My mistake, thought he played OL.
Mhs06
08-22-2007, 09:32 AM
You think they will lose to OSU at home, but beat Texas Tech away?
ktchamp97
08-22-2007, 09:57 AM
The only games OU might lose are against Texas and Oklahoma State.
Miami should be stout, but I just don't think Kyle Wright has "it" to be able to win on the road against that defense.
A&M isn't good on the road...yes, 12-7 happened, but the fact remains...and OU can actually scheme to stop a high school offense.
The OU-Texas game should be good. Texas' O-line play will determine the outcome. The secondary is a huge "?", but so is OU's QB...those cancel out in my mind until we find out otherwise.
Okie Lite is hella-talented on offense and supposedly improved on D. They've beaten OU in Norman before and they should've beaten them last year. They don't call it "Bedlam" for nothing...I will not miss this one.
I see either 11-1 or 10-2 for Big Red because the schedule just isn't that tough and they'll be good. I think they lose the bowl again though. I'm really starting to wonder if Big Game Bob wasn't really Big Game's Brother.
cajun
08-22-2007, 01:02 PM
The only games OU might lose are against Texas and Oklahoma State.
Miami should be stout, but I just don't think Kyle Wright has "it" to be able to win on the road against that defense.
A&M isn't good on the road...yes, 12-7 happened, but the fact remains...and OU can actually scheme to stop a high school offense.
The OU-Texas game should be good. Texas' O-line play will determine the outcome. The secondary is a huge "?", but so is OU's QB...those cancel out in my mind until we find out otherwise.
Okie Lite is hella-talented on offense and supposedly improved on D. They've beaten OU in Norman before and they should've beaten them last year. They don't call it "Bedlam" for nothing...I will not miss this one.
I see either 11-1 or 10-2 for Big Red because the schedule just isn't that tough and they'll be good. I think they lose the bowl again though. I'm really starting to wonder if Big Game Bob wasn't really Big Game's Brother.
Texas A&M not getting much love, but I think they will be one of the top teams in your Big 12 this year....
With alittle luck/break or two they could pull out a couple of road wins...A&M's road schedule is pretty tough this year, but I truly believe player for player A&M is alot better than some of these teams they will face on the road......I believe they will be in every game so there's a chance for a W...
I think also that Texas A&M is just a better college football team right now than Oklahoma....
Oklahoma was lucky to get the W last year beating A&M 17-16....A&M returns 9 on offense this year and 6 on the d-side....
Team Statistics
Texas A&M Oklahoma
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 15 16
TOTAL NET YARDS 267 263
Total Plays 58 57
Average Gain 4.6 4.6
NET YARDS RUSHING 204 224
Rushes 40 45
Average per rush 5.1 5
NET YARDS PASSING 63 39
Completions-attempted 8-18 3-12
Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost 12 8
TOTAL TURNOVERS 1 2
Interceptions 1 0
Fumbles Lost 0 2
OTHER
Penalties 6 5
Penalty Yards 48 42
Time of Possesion 31:24 28:36
Punts 5 4
Punt Average 38.6 46
Return Yards 1 30
farmerfan
08-22-2007, 01:52 PM
The only games OU might lose are against Texas and Oklahoma State.
Miami should be stout, but I just don't think Kyle Wright has "it" to be able to win on the road against that defense.
A&M isn't good on the road...yes, 12-7 happened, but the fact remains...and OU can actually scheme to stop a high school offense.
The OU-Texas game should be good. Texas' O-line play will determine the outcome. The secondary is a huge "?", but so is OU's QB...those cancel out in my mind until we find out otherwise.
Okie Lite is hella-talented on offense and supposedly improved on D. They've beaten OU in Norman before and they should've beaten them last year. They don't call it "Bedlam" for nothing...I will not miss this one.
I see either 11-1 or 10-2 for Big Red because the schedule just isn't that tough and they'll be good. I think they lose the bowl again though. I'm really starting to wonder if Big Game Bob wasn't really Big Game's Brother.
Champ. Normally agree with you. But you have to realize that the Ags went undefeated on the road last year and return a good bulk of players from a team that went into Norman and put up 30+ last time they played there. I realize the jab at the A&M offense but what is different from that than what we are seeing from Texas and Mizzou and others who run the same thing other High Schools do? I think the Ags will get a huge upset on the road this year. Tech is as vulnerable as ever, Mizzou in my mind is overrated and Miami will still be young when the Ags come to visit. I think the Ags will win one of those four and it would not shock me at all to see them win 2.
ktchamp97
08-22-2007, 02:13 PM
Champ. Normally agree with you. But you have to realize that the Ags went undefeated on the road last year and return a good bulk of players from a team that went into Norman and put up 30+ last time they played there. I realize the jab at the A&M offense but what is different from that than what we are seeing from Texas and Mizzou and others who run the same thing other High Schools do? I think the Ags will get a huge upset on the road this year. Tech is as vulnerable as ever, Mizzou in my mind is overrated and Miami will still be young when the Ags come to visit. I think the Ags will win one of those four and it would not shock me at all to see them win 2.
Besides a 1-point win at OSU (when Bobby Reid was hurt, I believe) and 12-7, the Ags are 8-14 in road games in the last 5 years. The only other win over a decent team came against OSU in 2004. They won 'em all last year, yes, but the track record is not good.
The "high school offense" comment comes more out of frustration than anything. Apparently Gene Chizik was the only person in America who didn't realize A&M ran the option. It was hard to watch.
chhspantherfan
08-22-2007, 02:53 PM
i like how all of you think texas is some juggernaut that nobody can touch
Texas won't get past TCU, how is that for a juggernaut?
Texas won't get past TCU, how is that for a juggernaut?
would you like to make a wager? put some word to your words?
man up kid.
farmerfan
08-22-2007, 07:02 PM
Besides a 1-point win at OSU (when Bobby Reid was hurt, I believe) and 12-7, the Ags are 8-14 in road games in the last 5 years. The only other win over a decent team came against OSU in 2004. They won 'em all last year, yes, but the track record is not good.
The "high school offense" comment comes more out of frustration than anything. Apparently Gene Chizik was the only person in America who didn't realize A&M ran the option. It was hard to watch.
The last 7 years Texas is 2-5 against OU but so many seem to have Texas projected to beat the Sooners this year. Texas overcame that hurdle and I believe much can be made for the Ags last year. OSU is not as easy a place to play as people think and the Ags found a way to win there. They also took OU to the final minutes in Norman 2 years ago so that has to play into their confidence as well.
As far as frustration with not stopping the option, when it is run right the option is still very difficult to stop. Nebraska showed that for years( not comparing the Ags to those Nebraska teams). The Ags have been effective running it because they have executed what they have need to execute. They have been among the top of the conference for the past two seasons in rushing and total offense I believe.
Champ. Normally agree with you. But you have to realize that the Ags went undefeated on the road last year
To clarify, besides Texas they had three road games:
@Kansas(6-6), they won 21-18, scoring in the last 30 seconds to get the win.
@OK State(7-6), they won 34-33 in OT after scoring in the last minute to tie it up
@Baylor(4-8), they won 31-21, breaking the tie at the beginning of the fourth, they scored 10 in the last 15 minutes to get the win
Not exactly the pedigree of a great team in my opinion. Not certain how we got on this subject, but my thoughts on the '06 aggies are they were not as good as their record. I think they will not be as bad as their record in '07.
They have been among the top of the conference for the past two seasons in rushing and total offense I believe.
That is true, but several schools, Nebraska/Texas/Baylor/Missouri have gone much more balanced to a pass heavy strategy as a$m has gone the other way.
Not that one is better than the others, but I don't think Texas will catch the Service academies either. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
farmerfan
08-22-2007, 07:25 PM
That is true, but several schools, Nebraska/Texas/Baylor/Missouri have gone much more balanced to a pass heavy strategy as a$m has gone the other way.
Not that one is better than the others, but I don't think Texas will catch the Service academies either. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
Why not? Offense is offense isn't it? Or is it only high school when the aggies do it? If it works why fix it? Offense hasn't been the Ags problem it has been defense. While Baylor and Nebraska might have gone more away from the run it has proven to be less effective for them as their offensive production has seem to lost a lot. Can't say the same for the Ags.
As far as them not being as good as their record a year ago, I would like to know why?
If that's the case then Texas, Nebraska and Oklahoma were not as good as their records either because in my mind they were all about even with A&M.
Why not? Offense is offense isn't it? Or is it only high school when the aggies do it? If it works why fix it? Offense hasn't been the Ags problem it has been defense. While Baylor and Nebraska might have gone more away from the run it has proven to be less effective for them as their offensive production has seem to lost a lot. Can't say the same for the Ags.
As far as them not being as good as their record a year ago, I would like to know why?
If that's the case then Texas, Nebraska and Oklahoma were not as good as their records either because in my mind they were all about even with A&M.
I never called it a HS offense. I like a good running game. Just the comparison to other teams that are not focusing on the run as much doesn't appear that relevant to me. Navy outrushed many teams last year, but I wouldn't trade that offense for let's say USC.
As far as their record, the barely scraped by all four of their road wins, including the Texas game. Very likely should have lost to Army as well.
As far as this year, going to Lincoln/Norman/Lubbock/Columbia/Miami is a tough road. Their home conf schedule is Ok State/Kansas/BAylor and then Texas. Again, my opinion is that they will probably lose a game or two on the road they might have pulled off at home. I think they wll be a better team, but don't know that will show in the W/L column.
farmerfan
08-22-2007, 07:56 PM
I never called it a HS offense. I like a good running game. Just the comparison to other teams that are not focusing on the run as much doesn't appear that relevant to me. Navy outrushed many teams last year, but I wouldn't trade that offense for let's say USC.
As far as their record, the barely scraped by all four of their road wins, including the Texas game. Very likely should have lost to Army as well.
As far as this year, going to Lincoln/Norman/Lubbock/Columbia/Miami is a tough road. Their home conf schedule is Ok State/Kansas/BAylor and then Texas. Again, my opinion is that they will probably lose a game or two on the road they might have pulled off at home. I think they wll be a better team, but don't know that will show in the W/L column.
Just like it could be turned around to say they very likely should not have lost to OU, Tech and Nebraska. Are you also willing to say that Texas was not that good then? What is it that makes people think Texas will be so much further along than A&M? Is it the departure of Chizik? I mean it wasn't but two years ago the whole burnt orange brigade was singing his praises.
SVrangers07
08-22-2007, 08:24 PM
would you like to make a wager? put some word to your words?
man up kid.
teaxs will win that game but dont be suprised if its close
teaxs will win that game but dont be suprised if its close
they have a stout team, but i'm tired of these aggy that becuase of 1 win against any major team.
put up or shut up.
this is going out to cavdad and westplano (i just don't like sooners).
Just like it could be turned around to say they very likely should not have lost to OU, Tech and Nebraska.-Well now we are changing the discussion. What I was responding to, was the statement that they were undefeated on the road. They were 4-0 and beat one ranked team. The other three were never ranked during the year, and they needed last minute heroics and fourth quarter comebacks in all four games to get the win. I have not even mentioned the debacle in SA, with Army.
Against the three ranked teams you metioned they played at home, they were 0-3. All three of those games they will play on the road this year. In addition, they get to go to Miami and Comubia. I don't think anyone would argue this year's schedule is more difficult by a large margin. That is why I think they will be have a worse record than the quality they are.
Are you also willing to say that Texas was not that good then? -Not certain how that is relevant to a$m's record, but what the heck. I think they were a top 5-10 team up until the KState game whern Colt got hurt. Afterwards they were a #10-20 team. I guess it depends on you definition of not that good. a$m would kill to be in the top 25, haven't managed that feat since '99. Being a Texas homer, #13 sucks, but I understand the reasons.
What is it that makes people think Texas will be so much further along than A&M?-I can't speak for all Texas fans, just me. To me, give me exact equal teams for the sake of arguement. One goes to:
Central Florida
Iowa State
Baylor
OK State
and gets at home:
Nebraska
Tech
and plays ou at a neutral site.
The other team plays on the road at:
Miami
Tech
Nebraska
ou
Missouri
and at home gets
Baylor
Ok State
Kansas
which one comes out with the better record? I know which schedule I pick.
Is it the departure of Chizik? I mean it wasn't but two years ago the whole burnt orange brigade was singing his praises.-I think you are correct. In hindsight I think the success may have had more to do with Robinson/Tomey legacy than Chizik who knows.
What I do know is that is that three of the four DB’s that graduated went in the first day of the draft and that Texas was ranked 99th in the nation in passing defense. I also know for some reason it appeared we did not plan to cover Tony Gonzales for some reason.
We did promote the position coach. We’ll see how that goes. Maybe it was Chizik’s fault, maybe Akina’s who knows.
As far as ou, their schedule seems pretty favorable. Colorado is not as good as they will be, but they do have to go to Lubbock and get Miami in Norman.
Of course they play Texas in Dallas, and that appears to be a great game w/two about equal teams.
Firebird
08-25-2007, 02:09 AM
Looking at A&M's schedule, I can say honestly that there is not a single game on there that the Aggie's can't win. I can also say honestly that there are at least seven games that they have a real shot at losing. Looking at it further, I can also say honestly that I think they will drop at least three, probably four or five.
The issue is the coaching, not the offensive scheme. I just don't have any faith whatsoever in Fran. If they hope to put together a ten win season, they are going to have to win several tough, close games-- and I don't think Fran is up to the task of doing it. He showed me that last year.
I think that out of Miami, UT, OU, Tech, OSU, Mizzou, and Nebraska, A&M loses four. If I were laying money down, I would bet on Miami, UT, OU, and Tech being the ones to do it. I will be shocked if they lose less than three of those games-- and this is coming from a fan.
LGVAg
08-25-2007, 04:03 AM
That is true, but several schools, Nebraska/Texas/Baylor/Missouri have gone much more balanced to a pass heavy strategy as a$m has gone the other way.
Not that one is better than the others, but I don't think Texas will catch the Service academies either. Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
A&M was one of like 3 schools in the nation to average over 200 yards rushing AND passing per game. Well, it was like that late late in the year, anyway. If it didn't end that way, it was close.
BoomerSooner
08-27-2007, 01:20 AM
Texas A&M not getting much love, but I think they will be one of the top teams in your Big 12 this year....
With alittle luck/break or two they could pull out a couple of road wins...A&M's road schedule is pretty tough this year, but I truly believe player for player A&M is alot better than some of these teams they will face on the road......I believe they will be in every game so there's a chance for a W...
I think also that Texas A&M is just a better college football team right now than Oklahoma....
Oklahoma was lucky to get the W last year beating A&M 17-16....A&M returns 9 on offense this year and 6 on the d-side....
Team Statistics
Texas A&M Oklahoma
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 15 16
TOTAL NET YARDS 267 263
Total Plays 58 57
Average Gain 4.6 4.6
NET YARDS RUSHING 204 224
Rushes 40 45
Average per rush 5.1 5
NET YARDS PASSING 63 39
Completions-attempted 8-18 3-12
Sacked 2 1
Yards Lost 12 8
TOTAL TURNOVERS 1 2
Interceptions 1 0
Fumbles Lost 0 2
OTHER
Penalties 6 5
Penalty Yards 48 42
Time of Possesion 31:24 28:36
Punts 5 4
Punt Average 38.6 46
Return Yards 1 30
OU only graduated 3 starting positions that played in that game. DE, LB, and QB. The only real question mark for the Sooners is QB and Pual Thompson went 3 for 12 in that game. I assure you Sam Bradford will not do worse than that. And that was on the road.
If OU gets good play from Bradford it will be a floor mopping.
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