SLC's First Intersquad Scimmage

[DragonFan0316]

The offense looked strong and deep at all positions but RB. They are hitting on most cylanders and scorched the first team defense. The defense still needs work. They looked weak at DB(no suprise there) against one of the best O teams in the nation. All appeared to get through healthy.

Anyone care to report on LH or MNW?

[drgnbkr]

The offense looked strong and deep at all positions but RB. They are hitting on most cylanders and scorched the first team defense. The defense still needs work. They looked weak at DB(no suprise there) against one of the best O teams in the nation. All appeared to get through healthy.

Anyone care to report on LH or MNW?

I'm pretty sure it was 1st O against 2nd D most of the scrimmage. Tre was almost untouchable and Freeman (WR) was catching everything around him. Riley was throwing the ball with a lot of zip. I hope LH has their helmets on tight, they wll be spinning around a lot looking for the guys in green IMO...

[DragonFan0316]

I'm pretty sure it was 1st O against 2nd D most of the scrimmage. Tre was almost untouchable and Freeman (WR) was catching everything around him. Riley was throwing the ball with a lot of zip. I hope LH has their helmets on tight, they wll be spinning around a lot looking for the guys in green IMO...

Thanks for the correction on 1st team versus 1st team thing:o

[ktCarl]

Who won? :D

[DragonFan]

The Dragons!

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Are the problems in the secondary a result of miscommunication/assignment or just physically getting beat? Hopefully a nice pass rush will help those guys out while they keep improving.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

The Dragons!

Does that make them 80-2?

[DragonFan0316]

Who won? :D


:D LMAO:D :D :D

[dragonsdaddy]

The offense looked strong and deep at all positions but RB. They are hitting on most cylanders and scorched the first team defense. The defense still needs work. They looked weak at DB(no suprise there) against one of the best O teams in the nation. All appeared to get through healthy.

Anyone care to report on LH or MNW?

the depth at ol is also very questionable. in fact, it may be critically shallow.

[dragonsdaddy]

Are the problems in the secondary a result of miscommunication/assignment or just physically getting beat? Hopefully a nice pass rush will help those guys out while they keep improving.

as i referenced earlier, i think the cb set-up will improve with the tincture of time, but right now, it looks like 2 rbs may be starting- one a soph. if the front 7 can get pressure, they can survive the growing-up period. if not, we may get torched a few times.btw, the front 7 looks pretty good, and pretty young besides.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

as i referenced earlier, i think the cb set-up will improve with the tincture of time, but right now, it looks like 2 rbs may be starting- one a soph. if the front 7 can get pressure, they can survive the growing-up period. if not, we may get torched a few times.btw, the front 7 looks pretty good, and pretty young besides.

That's interesting, as others on here had suggested that Carter Murphey was a frontrunner for one of those CB spots. Avers/Troop gonna get the nod?

Very interested to see how the coaches decide to schematically approach this early on.

[dragonsdaddy]

That's interesting, as others on here had suggested that Carter Murphey was a frontrunner for one of those CB spots. Avers/Troop gonna get the nod?

Very interested to see how the coaches decide to schematically approach this early on.

that's why i said may. troop seems to have one side locked up. the other is a work in progress.with tomlin missing the action, there were several occasions that 3 sophs were with the first unit. that is scary for this year for us. for next years, scary for everyone else. one thing's for sure. the coaches will be trying to win games in december. if it means a sept loss, so be it. i think the world won't spin off it's axis completely if this **** occurs in the next month.

[dragonfanII]

Carter Murphy is no longer a part of the team and will not be returning. Some off the field troubles apparently.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Carter Murphy is no longer a part of the team and will not be returning. Some off the field troubles apparently.

Those kinds of things are unfortunate, hopefully someone else will step up and make the most of their new opportunity. Sounds like Avers might be that kind of competitor, even if a few lumps are taken early.

[showdownon9/15]

the depth at ol is also very questionable. in fact, it may be critically shallow.


UH OH. LOL! NW had a scrimmage on Saturday morning. But no need to say how they did. You will see in less than a month. I was pleased with the scrimmage.
:D

[drgnbkr]

UH OH. LOL! NW had a scrimmage on Saturday morning. But no need to say how they did. You will see in less than a month. I was pleased with the scrimmage.
:D

We will see your defense running around trying to figure out how this little Texas team keeps scoring all those points....:eek:

[Sakatha]

UH OH. LOL! NW had a scrimmage on Saturday morning. But no need to say how they did. You will see in less than a month. I was pleased with the scrimmage.
:D

Let me guess... Your offense totalled over 800 yards. Somehow, though, the defense was also spectacular.

I dread 9/15. It will simply be a bloodbath. I can only hope that enough of our players survive to maybe win a game or 2 this year...

~DnM

[green day]

[QUOTE=OakTreeUp-n-Out;535750]Are the problems in the secondary a result of miscommunication/assignment or just physically getting beat? QUOTE]

The few I saw were mostly errors on checking off. Holmes knows what's needed between now and September and I'm sure things will only get better.

[DragonFan0316]

Let me guess... Your offense totalled over 800 yards. Somehow, though, the defense was also spectacular.

I dread 9/15. It will simply be a bloodbath. I can only hope that enough of our players survive to maybe win a game or 2 this year...

~DnM

Your right. Maybe if we forfiet we can save face and players;)

[ktCarl]

The Dragons!

Goes to show that you just can't beat those Dragons even if you're a Dragon!!;)

[dragonsdaddy]

Your right. Maybe if we forfiet we can save face and players;)

maybe some of their best pre-canes will get called up early, and be on the saturday team rather than the friday squad. that might help a little.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

showdown - I understand that Ben Jones is going both ways now and will likely start at right tackle on O. That kid is huge and lean... even makes Washington look small. That said, going both ways is going to limit his effectiveness on both sides of the ball as the game wears on. If (when) Jones, Forston, and Washington all line up on the DL it will surely be a sight to see... those kids are mountains.

[drgnbkr]

showdown - I understand that Ben Jones is going both ways now and will likely start at right tackle on O. That kid is huge and lean... even makes Washington look small. That said, going both ways is going to limit his effectiveness on both sides of the ball as the game wears on. If (when) Jones, Forston, and Washington all line up on the DL it will surely be a sight to see... those kids are mountains.

Trinity has some mountains too....South Pacific, volcanic creations...:p

[SLC93]

Trinity has some mountains too....South Pacific, volcanic creations...:p

:D

[ScottS]

Here's Jones bio
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51419&sport=1

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

nm.

[Sakatha]

I couldn't care less wtf MNW has at this point. I think EVERYONE knows this is a ridiculous matchup athletically speaking.


~DnM

[SLC93]

showdown - I understand that Ben Jones is going both ways now and will likely start at right tackle on O. That kid is huge and lean... even makes Washington look small. That said, going both ways is going to limit his effectiveness on both sides of the ball as the game wears on. If (when) Jones, Forston, and Washington all line up on the DL it will surely be a sight to see... those kids are mountains.

With two lineman going both ways, one of which hasn't seen the field on a regular basis in almost 18 months due to injury, the second half is going to be real interesting. Couple that with the fact that the one who isn't going both ways is known to take plays off or disappear and how are we really suppossed to feel about that Dline?

[SLC93]

I couldn't care less wtf MNW has at this point. I think EVERYONE knows this is a ridiculous matchup athletically speaking.


~DnM

Ridiculously overblown. The talent is impressive but it's not intimidating and it can be overcome. I'm with you on this. Let's play already.

[theTrutHurts]

UH OH.......just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploited if the front seven cannot get to the passer

Need to get #8 playing one corner, #11 playing the other (wait a tick.....he doesn't like contact), and #22 playing opposite #23 at safety......this is the solution to the Dragons' secondary issues


It will not happen, but hey, it is the solution
I don't know about Riley's ability to play defense, but he has the speed to play corner

[ScottS]

UH OH.......just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploited if the front seven cannot get to the passer


Expoited by the tall MNW receivers, or by all 10 teams we play?

[DragonBand06]

just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploitedcorner
You've been practicing with the team, have you?

[SLC93]

UH OH.......just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploited if the front seven cannot get to the passer
Need to get #8 playing one corner, #11 playing the other (wait a tick.....he doesn't like contact), and #22 playing opposite #23 at safety......this is the solution to the Dragons' secondary issues


It will not happen, but hey, it is the solution
I don't know about Riley's ability to play defense, but he has the speed to play corner

First of all, you know nothing as to how this group will perform since they are a new group. Second, the MNW secondary wrote the book on soft and they're playing behind a talented front seven. The comment you made applies to most every secondary when there is no pressure on th qb. Lastly, have you even seen RD play? What part of his approach leads you to believe he's shy about contact? If anything, he's prone to play too hard, if that's possible. Look forward to hearing from you after this one is played.

[Sakatha]

I am interested in how you know Riley doesn't like contact...

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

UH OH.......just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploited if the front seven cannot get to the passer

Need to get #8 playing one corner, #11 playing the other (wait a tick.....he doesn't like contact), and #22 playing opposite #23 at safety......this is the solution to the Dragons' secondary issues


It will not happen, but hey, it is the solution
I don't know about Riley's ability to play defense, but he has the speed to play corner

Yep..you figured it out..Carroll has been soft and weak in the secondary for 20 years and your the first to spot it..How did you do that?:confused: And it's a known fact around town square that Riley is shy and just refuses to make contact...I mean he blows chunks just thinking about getting hit:puke

[nwbull]

UH OH.......just like I said, this secondary is soft and weak and will be exploited if the front seven cannot get to the passer

Need to get #8 playing one corner, #11 playing the other (wait a tick.....he doesn't like contact), and #22 playing opposite #23 at safety......this is the solution to the Dragons' secondary issues


It will not happen, but hey, it is the solution
I don't know about Riley's ability to play defense, but he has the speed to play corner

If you continue to make statements like this you will have to relocate to another state.:D :D :D :D

[nwbull]

It's ironic when a slc fan states his opinion of what he/she saw during a scrimmage,so why do some get upset if slc db's are the weak point that's a small part of the team mnw db's have the same problem hopefully they both will improve by 9/15.

[drgnbkr]

It's ironic when a slc fan states his opinion of what he/she saw during a scrimmage,so why do some get upset if slc db's are the weak point that's a small part of the team mnw db's have the same problem hopefully they both will improve by 9/15.

That is a good point bull. The poster isn't a Carroll fan and the shot at Riley not wanting contact is a bit off the mark. The challenge for the Dragons this year will be getting the defense up and clicking like it always does. No one denies that there are new faces on D, but they will be just fine when it matters most in Texas...in November and December..

[dragonsdaddy]

That is a good point bull. The poster isn't a Carroll fan and the shot at Riley not wanting contact is a bit off the mark. The challenge for the Dragons this year will be getting the defense up and clicking like it always does. No one denies that there are new faces on D, but they will be just fine when it matters most in Texas...in November and December..

he may have been referring to several posts i have made about the potential for early season problems at db.

[KT2000]

Any questions about Riley Dodge's toughness should have been put to rest last year, and no I'm not just referring to the hurl/TD play. In the Trinity game, Riley was off his mark from what I'd seen him earlier on in the year and the Trojans had a little to do with that of course. The Dragons were driving to take the lead back in the 4th quarter and Riley was stripped by Youri Yenga. Riley got caught being careless with the ball in that situation (holding it down around his waist). The Dragons were in Trinity territory when this happened. That play might have sealed the game for Trinity, and would have shaken a lot of QB's confidence. Riley got one more chance to retake the lead following the fake punt and made no mistake with the opportunity. He finished the drive himself by putting his head down and forcing his way into the endzone. I have absolutely no questions about his physical or mental toughness.

[allendad]

Here's Jones bio
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51419&sport=1


I took a look at the link.

On paper this kid is very impressive!
(A DL guy that is 270 and runs a 4.7?????????, what a beast!!)

However, Carroll doesn't keep winning because they have the best athletes on the field.(No disrespect intended at all.)

Their discipline is what wins 79 or 80 or 151 games (or whatever it is by now).

Discipline will ALWAYS win over talent WITHOUT discipline!

Just keep with the disciplines routes and learn the assignments and Carroll will prevail . . . . . . . again.


Keep the corners soft . . . . . . . .UNTIL December at T.S. :p

Allendad

[drgnbkr]

Any questions about Riley Dodge's toughness should have been put to rest last year, and no I'm not just referring to the hurl/TD play. In the Trinity game, Riley was off his mark from what I'd seen him earlier on in the year and the Trojans had a little to do with that of course. The Dragons were driving to take the lead back in the 4th quarter and Riley was stripped by Youri Yenga. Riley got caught being careless with the ball in that situation (holding it down around his waist). The Dragons were in Trinity territory when this happened. That play might have sealed the game for Trinity, and would have shaken a lot of QB's confidence. Riley got one more chance to retake the lead following the fake punt and made no mistake with the opportunity. He finished the drive himself by putting his head down and forcing his way into the endzone. I have absolutely no questions about his physical or mental toughness.

If Carroll loses to MNW because the offense couldn't score, it will be one of the biggest shocks I've seen in my years as a Dragon watcher...If Carroll stumbles in this game it will be because the defense is young and inexperienced. The Lake Highlands game will give us a good glimpse of how far the D needs to go.

[Favpack]

UH OH. LOL! NW had a scrimmage on Saturday morning. But no need to say how they did. You will see in less than a month. I was pleased with the scrimmage.
:D

In all frankness - there is not one person here who cares how they did. Check that - yes, we want NW to be playing well leading up to its Sept. beatdown when it faces a real team. You don't win in Texas with individual skill players woofing about how mean they are - you win with a team.

[nwbull]

In all frankness - there is not one person here who cares how they did. Check that - yes, we want NW to be playing well leading up to its Sept. beatdown when it faces a real team. You don't win in Texas with individual skill players woofing about how mean they are - you win with a team.

This statement will be posted in the bulls locker room.:cool: :cool: :cool:

[Sakatha]

This statement will be posted in the bulls locker room.:cool: :cool: :cool:

Are you going to march in there and place it up on the board yourself? Man, go YOU! YOU DA MAN! I am *SURE* your screenshot of a freaking POST on a Texas Message Board will fire up the 'team' and put them over the top. You will SINGLE HANDEDLY be responsible for their victory!

Dude, seriously who do you think you are? Spokeperson for the entire MNW program?

~DnM

[Favpack]

This statement will be posted in the bulls locker room.:cool: :cool: :cool:

I'm a star - now that is cool.

"Hey coach, this idiot Texas HS forum addict says SLC is gonna beat us bad"

"Really - well, gosh darn, let's put that up on the bulletin board - right beside the quote from a guy that says global warming is killing of the penguins."

[Sakatha]

I'm a star - now that is cool.

"Hey coach, this idiot Texas HS forum addict says SLC is gonna beat us bad"

"Really - well, gosh darn, let's put that up on the bulletin board - right beside the quote from a guy that says global warming is killing of the penguins."

I'm down w/changing the subject to the mindless slaughter of penguins at the hands of a new car...

It'd probably be of more value than the trash that's being posted here by nwbull.

~DnM

[showdownon9/15]

In all frankness - there is not one person here who cares how they did. Check that - yes, we want NW to be playing well leading up to its Sept. beatdown when it faces a real team. You don't win in Texas with individual skill players woofing about how mean they are - you win with a team.

Yes there is because someone sent me a private message asking how they did. And would not have asked earlier in this thread about NW. Get clarity before you post things.

[DragonFan]

I would like to know how MNW looks. However I would want a true assesment not just "All D1 Talent ready to roll over everyone".

I think you can see some concerns expressed by the Carroll fans about the defense and how young it might end up being.

[BigJim331]

This statement will be posted in the bulls locker room.:cool: :cool: :cool:

Make sure you take a pizza with you and DO NOT touch the remote while you're in there. On your way out....check the bathroom would ya'?

[Sakatha]

Make sure you take a pizza with you and DO NOT touch the remote while you're in there. On your way out....check the bathroom would ya'?

LOL

Someone topped me!

~DnM

[Sakatha]

Yes there is because someone sent me a private message asking how they did. And would not have asked earlier in this thread about NW. Get clarity before you post things.

Says the poster who just managed to write one of the most unintelligible posts I've read since I've been on this board.

~DnM

[allendad]

Hey Bull,

Let somebody(whose fanny is still red from the spankin' it received last December) tell you about trash talkin' the dragons . . . . . . . .

We all do it EVERY year and then we kindly get our heads handed to us on a platter.

The goobers that post here are not the players, so . . . . . . .
You're not impressing ANY of the SLC players with your D1 talk.

We're old farts and band people.

Many a D1 talent filled team has been spanked by Carroll.

While it's fun to talk smack . . . . . . . IT DON'T MEAN JACK!


Peace out and . . . . . . . . Get ready.


Allendad

[Sakatha]

Hey Bull,

Let somebody(whose fanny is still red from the spankin' it received last December) tell you about trash talkin' the dragons . . . . . . . .

We all do it EVERY year and then we kindly get our heads handed to us on a platter.

The goobers that post here are not the players, so . . . . . . .
You're not impressing ANY of the SLC players with your D1 talk.

We're old farts and band people.

Many a D1 talent filled team has been spanked by Carroll.

While it's fun to talk smack . . . . . . . IT DON'T MEAN JACK!


Peace out and . . . . . . . . Get ready.


Allendad

Pretty much on target there...

Hey, how is your QB lookin? I liked what I saw out of him(given the circumstances) after D*ck(hate that it gets caught in the filter :() went down.

~DnM

[texan_75010]

3 Questions:

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound? :confused:

If a post from a web board containing muli-syllable words is pinned up on a MNW locker room bulletin board and no one there is able to decipher its linguistics, will it really provide any additional motivation for the players to the point of changing the inevitable outcome of the game? :eek:

If a post dripping with sarcasm is misinterpreted by readers looking to thrust forward the skeletal digit of ire and respond with retaliatory sorties, will I really care? :p

[SLC54]

Here's Jones bio
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51419&sport=1

How old is this kid, 29???:eek:

[theTrutHurts]

First of all, you know nothing as to how this group will perform since they are a new group. Second, the MNW secondary wrote the book on soft and they're playing behind a talented front seven. The comment you made applies to most every secondary when there is no pressure on th qb. Lastly, have you even seen RD play? What part of his approach leads you to believe he's shy about contact? If anything, he's prone to play too hard, if that's possible. Look forward to hearing from you after this one is played.

HAHA

How many times does he run out of bounds instead of dishing out a blow? This may be smart, but he is not a physical runner nor does he like contact. He utilizes his speed, which is why he is effective as a runner. I've seen him play. I guarantee that they will surrender quite a few yards through the air if the front seven is not as good as it has been in recent years. The offense should be able to score with any team in the country though.

[Sakatha]

HAHA

How many times does he run out of bounds instead of dishing out a blow? This may be smart, but he is not a physical runner nor does he like contact. He utilizes his speed, which is why he is effective as a runner. I've seen him play. I guarantee that they will surrender quite a few yards through the air if the front seven is not as good as it has been in recent years. The offense should be able to score with any team in the country though.

I don't know of a QB save maybe Stephen McGee that SEEKS to hit someone all of the time...

~DnM

[dragonsdaddy]

HAHA

How many times does he run out of bounds instead of dishing out a blow? This may be smart, but he is not a physical runner nor does he like contact. He utilizes his speed, which is why he is effective as a runner. I've seen him play. I guarantee that they will surrender quite a few yards through the air if the front seven is not as good as it has been in recent years. The offense should be able to score with any team in the country though.

he got it beat into him on every occasion his head coach was around, that the most important play he'll ever have is the next one. he used to get hurt periodically by taking on tacklers rather than going oob.

[FootballCrazy727]

Question for SLC fans:
Do yall expect the Defense to have games where they give up 25 or 30+ and depend on the O to outscore the oppnents? Which they could easily do, but you dont win championships like that.

[implacable44]

If Carroll loses to MNW because the offense couldn't score, it will be one of the biggest shocks I've seen in my years as a Dragon watcher...If Carroll stumbles in this game it will be because the defense is young and inexperienced. The Lake Highlands game will give us a good glimpse of how far the D needs to go.

I would hope that -- should Carroll lose - I won't come to the board and read such absurd comments from the Dragon faithful. Surely you gracious winners will be just as gracious should a defeat occur. Surely it will be because MNW is the better team -- or will it ?

I suppose if MNW loses they can come in here and whine about home cooking - long road trip, new coaches, etc.. etc... etc...

[ScottS]

Question for SLC fans:
Do yall expect the Defense to have games where they give up 25 or 30+ and depend on the O to outscore the oppnents? Which they could easily do, but you dont win championships like that.

I would say no. This defense has been very good over the last 4 years, so they've had to rebuild some from time to time. Now Sept 15th could be another story, with an elite 11 QB, 2 tall/fast receivers and a monster OL protecting.

[Sakatha]

I would hope that -- should Carroll lose - I won't come to the board and ready such absurd comments from the Dragon faithful. Surely you gracious winners will be just as gracious should a defeat occur. Surely it will be because MNW is the better team -- or will it ?

I suppose if MNW loses they can come in here and whine about home cooking - long road trip, new coaches, etc.. etc... etc...

I will personally try very hard to be one of the first to congratulate MNW.

~DnM

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

he used to get hurt periodically by taking on tacklers rather than going oob.

I remember in Abilene against Midland Lee in 2005 (I was pouring ice water on my head it was so terribly hot at Shotwell that day) seeing Riley, who had to have weighed about 140lbs. at the time, run smack over some DB from Midland Lee in the 3rd or 4th quarter... just absolutely trucked some poor kid. We were sitting on the Lee side and everyone just absolutely cringed.

Of course he avoids contact now as a QB... what kind of a ridiculous statement is it that he's not tough because he steps out of bounds instead of letting defenders take free shots at him?!? Bizarre argument that's trying to be made in this thread.

[BigRing5311]

I would hope that -- should Carroll lose - I won't come to the board and read such absurd comments from the Dragon faithful. Surely you gracious winners will be just as gracious should a defeat occur. Surely it will be because MNW is the better team -- or will it ?

I suppose if MNW loses they can come in here and whine about home cooking - long road trip, new coaches, etc.. etc... etc...

The only way the Dragons will ever lose another game will be because we got beat by a better team...end of conversation.

MNW can say whatever the hell they want after the game.

[nwbull]

Hey Bull,

Let somebody(whose fanny is still red from the spankin' it received last December) tell you about trash talkin' the dragons . . . . . . . .

We all do it EVERY year and then we kindly get our heads handed to us on a platter.

The goobers that post here are not the players, so . . . . . . .
You're not impressing ANY of the SLC players with your D1 talk.

We're old farts and band people.

Many a D1 talent filled team has been spanked by Carroll.

While it's fun to talk smack . . . . . . . IT DON'T MEAN JACK!


Peace out and . . . . . . . . Get ready.


Allendad

That's their fanny until it's proven on the field,all this d1 talk means nothing,you fear slc the BULLS don't.:D :D

[SLC93]

Make sure you take a pizza with you and DO NOT touch the remote while you're in there. On your way out....check the bathroom would ya'?

And the award goes to ............................ BigJim!:D

[Sakatha]

That's their fanny until it's proven on the field,all this d1 talk means nothing,you fear slc the BULLS don't.:D :D

*yawn*

~DnM

[Sakatha]

And the award goes to ............................ BigJim!:D

Yeah, this is a load of crap. I was really wanting to takeover as board jackass... :( He's trying to challenge!

~DnM

[nwbull]

Hey Bull,

Let somebody(whose fanny is still red from the spankin' it received last December) tell you about trash talkin' the dragons . . . . . . . .

We all do it EVERY year and then we kindly get our heads handed to us on a platter.

The goobers that post here are not the players, so . . . . . . .
You're not impressing ANY of the SLC players with your D1 talk.

We're old farts and band people.

Many a D1 talent filled team has been spanked by Carroll.

While it's fun to talk smack . . . . . . . IT DON'T MEAN JACK!


Peace out and . . . . . . . . Get ready.


Allendad

That's their fanny until it's proven on the field,all this d1 talk means nothing,you fear slc the BULLS don't.:D :D

[Sakatha]

How strange.. That last post got bumped past my response...

~DnM

[nwbull]

The only way the Dragons will ever lose another game will be because we got beat by a better team...end of conversation.

MNW can say whatever the hell they want after the game.

9/15 o'well

[SLC93]

HAHA

How many times does he run out of bounds instead of dishing out a blow? This may be smart, but he is not a physical runner nor does he like contact. He utilizes his speed, which is why he is effective as a runner. I've seen him play. I guarantee that they will surrender quite a few yards through the air if the front seven is not as good as it has been in recent years. The offense should be able to score with any team in the country though.

Are you seriously judging a quartback's toughness base on smart plays? Did you see the licks he took against Trinity? MNW has nothing on the wood the Trojans bring. Your current line of thought has me embarassed for you as a football fan. Get a clue.:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

Question for SLC fans:
Do yall expect the Defense to have games where they give up 25 or 30+ and depend on the O to outscore the oppnents? Which they could easily do, but you dont win championships like that.

See 2004, please.

[SLC13]

Question for SLC fans:
Do yall expect the Defense to have games where they give up 25 or 30+ and depend on the O to outscore the oppnents? YES Which they could easily do, but you dont win championships like that.
FBcrazy you sure have a short memory. For the last five years the Dragon defense has been good, but not dominating (save maybe last year) Through that time they have had many games where the opponents scored points, but we just outscored them.

2002:
Arlington 52-33
Lufkin 33-30

2003:
Denison 51-28
Marcus 56-35
Coppell 47-35
Monty 31-28

2004:
Haltom 56-35
Denton Ryan 52-27
GV 61-26
Abilene 35-30
Lufkin 37-30

2005:
Mid Lee 48-25
CHHS 59-28
Plano 37-27
Lufkin 48-28

2006:
Westlake 43-29

and there are 13 more games in those 5 years where the opponents scored in the low 20's.........

So to answer your question...... I think there will be games this year where the offense will have to just outscore the opposition, and judging by the last five years, you can win championships that way......

[Sakatha]

Are you seriously judging a quartback's toughness base on smart plays? Did you see the licks he took against Trinity? MNW has nothing on the wood the Trojans bring. Your current line of thought has me embarassed for you as a football fan. Get a clue.:rolleyes:


All I can say is ... TheTruthHurts, 93... It hurts bad... :(

~DnM

[SLC93]

Yeah, this is a load of crap. I was really wanting to takeover as board jackass... :( He's trying to challenge!

~DnM

You'll always be my favorite :Censor: jackass.;) :D

[SLC93]

FBcrazy you sure have a short memory. For the last five years the Dragon defense has been good, but not dominating (save maybe last year) Through that time they have had many games where the opponents scored points, but we just outscored them.

2002:
Arlington 52-33
Lufkin 33-30

2003:
Denison 51-28
Marcus 56-35
Coppell 47-35
Monty 31-28

2004:
Haltom 56-35
Denton Ryan 52-27
GV 61-26
Abilene 35-30
Lufkin 37-30

2005:
Mid Lee 48-25
CHHS 59-28
Plano 37-27
Lufkin 48-28

2006:
Westlake 43-29

and there are 13 more games in those 5 years where the opponents scored in the low 20's.........

So to answer your question...... I think there will be games this year where the offense will have to just outscore the opposition, and judging by the last five years, you can win championships that way......

Nicely done, 13:D

[Favpack]

I would hope that -- should Carroll lose - I won't come to the board and read such absurd comments from the Dragon faithful. Surely you gracious winners will be just as gracious should a defeat occur. Surely it will be because MNW is the better team -- or will it ?

I suppose if MNW loses they can come in here and whine about home cooking - long road trip, new coaches, etc.. etc... etc...

Maybe I missed something - but he's simply saying MNW will shock everyone if they stuff SLC's potent O all night long. I said the same thing, if SLC loses it will be like 45-38, a shootout. I just have no idea what you're referring to.

[Sakatha]

Maybe I missed something - but he's simply saying MNW will shock everyone if they stuff SLC's potent O all night long. I said the same thing, if SLC loses it will be like 45-38, a shootout. I just have no idea what you're referring to.

I'm not sure what to expect. The DL is so stacked it's just ridiculous. There are ways to combat that, though.

It's fascinating, really. If anyone remembers the Denton Ryan game 3 years when Renfro went nuts, DR got penetration ALL NIGHT LONG. The thing is, Luna burned them with quick hitters up the middle and negated the penetration, and Daniel was mobile enough(see Riley) to buy time.

~DnM

[Favpack]

I'm not sure what to expect. The DL is so stacked it's just ridiculous. There are ways to combat that, though.

It's fascinating, really. If anyone remembers the Denton Ryan game 3 years when Renfro went nuts, DR got penetration ALL NIGHT LONG. The thing is, Luna burned them with quick hitters up the middle and negated the penetration, and Daniel was mobile enough(see Riley) to buy time.

~DnM

Renfro's coming out party for sure. I'm still amazed your '05 team didn't even need him. Fentress and McKay made us forget Renfro - a rude awakening for him.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I'm not sure what to expect. The DL is so stacked it's just ridiculous. There are ways to combat that, though.

It's fascinating, really. If anyone remembers the Denton Ryan game 3 years when Renfro went nuts, DR got penetration ALL NIGHT LONG. The thing is, Luna burned them with quick hitters up the middle and negated the penetration, and Daniel was mobile enough(see Riley) to buy time.

~DnM

I'm sure Jones, Forston and the other guys will have their moments, but I have a hard time beliving that anyone's going to be getting consistent penetration against Schwartzstein, Jackson, and Leppo. The guys on the right side? I don't know anything about them, whoever they may be.

[implacable44]

Maybe I missed something - but he's simply saying MNW will shock everyone if they stuff SLC's potent O all night long. I said the same thing, if SLC loses it will be like 45-38, a shootout. I just have no idea what you're referring to.

his was a long post so I could see how you got confused and or lost with compound sentences etc...

perhaps it was the the part where he said if carroll were to lose it would be because of a young and inexperienced D.

[dragonsdaddy]

his was a long post so I could see how you got confused and or lost with compound sentences etc...

perhaps it was the the part where he said if carroll were to lose it would be because of a young and inexperienced D.

now that's some of the old implac we haven't seen in a while.

[SLC93]

I'm not sure what to expect. The DL is so stacked it's just ridiculous. There are ways to combat that, though.

It's fascinating, really. If anyone remembers the Denton Ryan game 3 years when Renfro went nuts, DR got penetration ALL NIGHT LONG. The thing is, Luna burned them with quick hitters up the middle and negated the penetration, and Daniel was mobile enough(see Riley) to buy time.

~DnM

Stop making sense. MNW is the greatest team of alltime and we have no chance. Hadn't you heard?:rolleyes: :D

[salsashark]

Does that make them 80-2?

Nope! As ktcarl says...

"KATY. The only 1 in Southlake!":D

[FootballCrazy727]

FBcrazy you sure have a short memory. For the last five years the Dragon defense has been good, but not dominating (save maybe last year) Through that time they have had many games where the opponents scored points, but we just outscored them.

2002:
Arlington 52-33
Lufkin 33-30

2003:
Denison 51-28
Marcus 56-35
Coppell 47-35
Monty 31-28

2004:
Haltom 56-35
Denton Ryan 52-27
GV 61-26
Abilene 35-30
Lufkin 37-30

2005:
Mid Lee 48-25
CHHS 59-28
Plano 37-27
Lufkin 48-28

2006:
Westlake 43-29

and there are 13 more games in those 5 years where the opponents scored in the low 20's.........

So to answer your question...... I think there will be games this year where the offense will have to just outscore the opposition, and judging by the last five years, you can win championships that way......

almost half of those games were over in the 3rd quarter. winning 30-10 at halftime and your 2nd team defense giving up a couple of trash touchdowns is different than a barnburner where neither team gets up by more than 14.
Let me put it this way...Do you think you'll get into any shootouts this year, where your defense is having trouble stopping drives?

[showdownon9/15]

KT quick question?? Are you gonna ban all of the NW posters as soon as NW wins game?? Let me know now so I can stop wasting my time posting. :D

[dragonsdaddy]

KT quick question?? Are you gonna ban all of the NW posters as soon as NW wins game?? Let me know now so I can stop wasting my time posting. :D

kt's respect slc, but don't love them in any shape form or fashion. you'll be plenty welcome to share some crow, of which we have plenty in the freezer. most has freezer burn so as to make it almost inedible.

[SLC93]

almost half of those games were over in the 3rd quarter. winning 30-10 at halftime and your 2nd team defense giving up a couple of trash touchdowns is different than a barnburner where neither team gets up by more than 14. Let me put it this way...Do you think you'll get into any shootouts this year, where your defense is having trouble stopping drives?

I think you need to go back and review the 2004 playoffs.

[FootballCrazy727]

I think you need to go back and review the 2004 playoffs.

yah i didnt say all of them i said about half, which is true. I get the point that yall arent really worried though

[Sakatha]

I'm sure Jones, Forston and the other guys will have their moments, but I have a hard time beliving that anyone's going to be getting consistent penetration against Schwartzstein, Jackson, and Leppo. The guys on the right side? I don't know anything about them, whoever they may be.

I keep trying to tell myself that. I, however, do see the possibility of a loss... It HAS to come some time! (Now is when 93 and Scott get onto me!)

~DnM

p.s. This was my way of stopping making sense, 93. ;)

[SLC93]

I keep trying to tell myself that. I, however, do see the possibility of a loss... It HAS to come some time! (Now is when 93 and Scott get onto me!)

~DnM

p.s. This was my way of stopping making sense, 93. ;)

I feel better now. Shouldn't need the nitelite. Thanks my brother!:D ;)

[SLC93]

yah i didnt say all of them i said about half, which is true. I get the point that yall arent really worried though

Obviously any squad would feel better with a few more returning starters on defense. That's undeniable. One thing the defenses have shown, over the years, is that they may struggle but when the chance reveals itself, they'll make a play. That's a result of good coaching, good prep & great focus. I see no reason to think that in a close game the defense couldn't make a play or get a critical stop. These guys are young, not terrible. It does not hurt to have the cushion the offense will provide. That can't be argued, it's a huge advantage. Name three teams that could survive a full blown shootout with Carroll this season. It's tough to make that list.

[SLC13]

Obviously any squad would feel better with a few more returning starters on defense. That's undeniable. One thing the defenses have shown, over the years, is that they may struggle but when the chance reveals itself, they'll make a play. That's a result of good coaching, good prep & great focus. I see no reason to think that in a close game the defense couldn't make a play or get a critical stop. These guys are young, not terrible. It does not hurt to have the cushion the offense will provide. That can't be argued, it's a huge advantage. Name three teams that could survive a full blown shootout with Carroll this season. It's tough to make that list.
You beat me to it 93.......well said. This defense will improve over the course of the season much the same way as the one's that have preceeded them......by practicing daily against the best offense they will see all year!!

[implacable44]

now that's some of the old implac we haven't seen in a while.

kind of reminds you of a young ddaddy eh ? only without so many 5 cent words and a little less of the self-hating narccicist.

MIssed you for the Dr. Pepper with two straws - had to buy my own.

[dragonsdaddy]

kind of reminds you of a young ddaddy eh ? only without so many 5 cent words and a little less of the self-hating narccicist.

MIssed you for the Dr. Pepper with two straws - had to buy my own.

you must be confused. i was never a young dd. i forgot about the dp. i'm not into soft drinks so much any more. got love affair with my magnesium levels.

[KT2000]

KT quick question?? Are you gonna ban all of the NW posters as soon as NW wins game?? Let me know now so I can stop wasting my time posting. :D

No. Should that happen, I think you'll find a majority of the Dragon faithful on here classy in defeat. I wouldn't imagine anyone here running for the hills. Northwestern has a quality team with quality players. It's a neat match-up, and I look forward to seeing what happens.

[TulsaHale74]

I think you'll find a majority of the Dragon faithful on here classy in defeat...
If practice makes perfect then how do you substantiate that claim?:)

After Carroll drops 5 or 6 games next decade (sounds of cardiac arrest in dragonland; cries of "help, Dr. Edward, help" - sorry, I didn't intend to hurt anyone) then we'll know.

[KT2000]

If practice makes perfect then how do you substantiate that claim?:)

First hand experience. ;)

[Sakatha]

First hand experience. ;)

You belong to a very small group in that respect. :)

~DnM

[DragonFan0316]

If practice makes perfect then how do you substantiate that claim?:)

After Carroll drops 5 or 6 games next decade (sounds of cardiac arrest in dragonland; cries of "help, Dr. Edward, help" - sorry, I didn't intend to hurt anyone) then we'll know.

We were champions before this decade and we will be again. No cardiac arrests in Southlake. We will be around to agitate everyone for a longtime to come.:D

[DrEdward]

If practice makes perfect then how do you substantiate that claim?:)

After Carroll drops 5 or 6 games next decade (sounds of cardiac arrest in dragonland; cries of "help, Dr. Edward, help" - sorry, I didn't intend to hurt anyone) then we'll know.

All things considered after these unbelievable runs of championship football over two decades from 3A to 5A and so very few losses, if Carroll were only to lose an average of one game every other year, I would think that would not be any less of an enviable achievement. ;)

[allendad]

Pretty much on target there...

Hey, how is your QB lookin? I liked what I saw out of him(given the circumstances) after D*ck(hate that it gets caught in the filter :() went down.

~DnM

Sak,

I haven't had a chance to sneek over to the practice field yet.

I am going to the scrim. of Friday night to check him out. I hope that he has matured a lot since Dec.

Brown, the sophomore back up, is who I have my eye on. He reminds me of R.Dodge a lot. He's about 6'-180 or so. He was brought up from the frosh team for the playoffs. He played on the kick off team. I thrilled at watching this kid fly down the field with no respect for his body. I love that! Especially when it is a QB. They uauslly are not into knocking their heads in. Keep your eye on the name Matt Brown.

Take care of business on the 15th okay. I'm feeling a little aggravated with some people from down around the southeast. ;)

Allendad

[showdownon9/15]

Sak,

I haven't had a chance to sneek over to the practice field yet.

I am going to the scrim. of Friday night to check him out. I hope that he has matured a lot since Dec.

Brown, the sophomore back up, is who I have my eye on. He reminds me of R.Dodge a lot. He's about 6'-180 or so. He was brought up from the frosh team for the playoffs. He played on the kick off team. I thrilled at watching this kid fly down the field with no respect for his body. I love that! Especially when it is a QB. They uauslly are not into knocking their heads in. Keep your eye on the name Matt Brown.

Take care of business on the 15th okay. I'm feeling a little aggravated with some people from down around the southeast. ;)

Allendad


Feeling is mutual.

[dragonbuck]

Sak,

I haven't had a chance to sneek over to the practice field yet.

I am going to the scrim. of Friday night to check him out. I hope that he has matured a lot since Dec.

Brown, the sophomore back up, is who I have my eye on. He reminds me of R.Dodge a lot. He's about 6'-180 or so. He was brought up from the frosh team for the playoffs. He played on the kick off team. I thrilled at watching this kid fly down the field with no respect for his body. I love that! Especially when it is a QB. They uauslly are not into knocking their heads in. Keep your eye on the name Matt Brown.

Take care of business on the 15th okay. I'm feeling a little aggravated with some people from down around the southeast. ;)

Allendad

thanks for the support AD. By the way, my ears are still ringing from your tuba section from last December. Any chance you graduated your entire band? I don't think my ears can take another game at TS with you guys