1992 3A State Championship: Southlake Carroll vs. Coldspring

[boto24]

Here is an in-depth preview and recap of the 1992 3A State Championship game between Southlake Carroll and Coldspring shown on the Alamo High School Extra with host Craig Way. Carroll finished that season at 16-0 and finished 1993 with another 16-0 season before moving up to 4A in 1994. Coldspring finished with a 14-2 record. The 1992 team outscored opponents 803-122 and is considered by many to be the best 3A team of all time. This team is still #7 on the national list for points scored in a single season(http://nflhs.com/News/Records/11man_team_offense.asp)

What makes this scoring feat so remarkable is that it was done with a run-based offense and many times starters were pulled early in the 3rd quarter. This team may have easily scored 900+ points that year. None of the pass-oriented 5A championship teams that Carroll has produced in the last five years have scored as many points. Carroll fans, enjoy.

1992 3A Championship Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGBunEbo2Rw

1992 3A Championship Recap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSW5WcrZLs

[drgnbkr]

Awesome stuff..great memories! Thanks for finding that.

[Favpack]

Really good stuff there. A couple of thoughts...just in the interviews with kids and parents - was it safe to say SL was more of a "Texans moving out of Ft. Worth for the small town of SL" city back then than vs. a suburban city with a mix of locals and transferees now? Most of the kids and parents sounded pretty twangy.

And, that was funny listening to George Dunham - now a main voice on the Ticket.

[toonman]

Not a lot has changed in 15 years. Some of the Dragons scoring looked very similar to the 5A versions of the Dragons.

[Favpack]

Not a lot has changed in 15 years. Some of the Dragons scoring looked very similar to the 5A versions of the Dragons.

Average to good kids / perfect execution - yep

[boto24]

Really good stuff there. A couple of thoughts...just in the interviews with kids and parents - was it safe to say SL was more of a "Texans moving out of Ft. Worth for the small town of SL" city back then than vs. a suburban city with a mix of locals and transferees now? Most of the kids and parents sounded pretty twangy.

And, that was funny listening to George Dunham - now a main voice on the Ticket.

Yes, I would venture to say that if a Southlake native moved away in 1992 and came back today they probably wouldn't even recognize the town. Most of the parents and players at that time were probably "homegrown" in Southlake. The city of Southlake in '92 is probably comparable to the city of Celina in '07: a small "one-horse" country town with a bad a$$ football tradition that is growing by leaps and bounds.

It was also cool listening to Craig Way, probably the most dedicated high school sports journalist in Texas, who is now an announcer for the University of Texas Longhorns.

[Grapeguy]

Enjoyed that very much. We were on the East Coast for Christmas that year and missed the game and the media coverage of it. Tried to listen to the play-by-play on KRLD without any luck. Finally got enough of a signal after midnight to catch the wrap-up and final score.

I thought that was more extensive coverage than championship HS teams get today - particularly at the 3A level. Eight and half minutes was very good.

[Favpack]

Craig Way and Chuck Cooperstein - none better - and both severely under-paid I'm sure.

[BigFanSLC]

brings back good ole memories from my first year in southlake and 2nd grade :D
great videos

[SLC93]

Really good stuff there. A couple of thoughts...just in the interviews with kids and parents - was it safe to say SL was more of a "Texans moving out of Ft. Worth for the small town of SL" city back then than vs. a suburban city with a mix of locals and transferees now? Most of the kids and parents sounded pretty twangy.

And, that was funny listening to George Dunham - now a main voice on the Ticket.

Our graduating class that year was 162 students. Of that total, 151 had been at Carroll since at least the sixth grade. I moved in as a 3rd grader so as I spoke that night, I was talking to friends I had known for at least nine years. Very tight knit community.

[SLC93]

Yes, I would venture to say that if a Southlake native moved away in 1992 and came back today they probably wouldn't even recognize the town. Most of the parents and players at that time were probably "homegrown" in Southlake. The city of Southlake in '92 is probably comparable to the city of Celina in '07: a small "one-horse" country town with a bad a$$ football tradition that is growing by leaps and bounds.

It was also cool listening to Craig Way, probably the most dedicated high school sports journalist in Texas, who is now an announcer for the University of Texas Longhorns.

You're 100% correct, on all counts. In 92 we were still a rural community. Only recently had a some restaraunts & a movie theater come to Grapevine. Before that you had to drive into North Richland Hills to do anything. 1709 was still a farm to market road with about three lights on it from one side of town to another, not the six lane monster it is now. Most folks had either been there for a long time or were trying to get away from all the growth of the metromess without having a huge commute to work.

[SLC93]

Craig Way and Chuck Cooperstein - none better - and both severely under-paid I'm sure.

That is no lie. I love Coop & Way is a borderline institution in Texas hs coverage.

[SLC93]

Here is an in-depth preview and recap of the 1992 3A State Championship game between Southlake Carroll and Coldspring shown on the Alamo High School Extra with host Craig Way. Carroll finished that season at 16-0 and finished 1993 with another 16-0 season before moving up to 4A in 1994. Coldspring finished with a 14-2 record. The 1992 team outscored opponents 803-122 and is considered by many to be the best 3A team of all time. This team is still #7 on the national list for points scored in a single season(http://nflhs.com/News/Records/11man_team_offense.asp)

What makes this scoring feat so remarkable is that it was done with a run-based offense and many times starters were pulled early in the 3rd quarter. This team may have easily scored 900+ points that year. None of the pass-oriented 5A championship teams that Carroll has produced in the last five years have scored as many points. Carroll fans, enjoy.



1992 3A Championship Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGBunEbo2Rw

1992 3A Championship Recap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSW5WcrZLs

Thanks Boto, that was great. I have no problem saying that team was the best ever at the 3A level and could make lists on other levels, no problem. There were about half of those games that the backups played more than the starters that year. We were seriously done with alot of those teams before the 2nd quarter ended. Remember, of the 122 pts we surrender that year, 35 were to Vernon in one of the greatest games in Texas history regardless of class. Awesome footage, all the way around. Thanks again.

[boto24]

Thanks Boto, that was great. I have no problem saying that team was the best ever at the 3A level and could make lists on other levels, no problem. There were about half of those games that the backups played more than the starters that year. We were seriously done with alot of those teams before the 2nd quarter ended. Remember, of the 122 pts we surrender that year, 35 were to Vernon in one of the greatest games in Texas history regardless of class. Awesome footage, all the way around. Thanks again.

You're very welcome. Thanks for providing the memories to begin with.

[caveman]

Average to good kids / perfect execution - yep

Hitting the nail on the head.

[SLC93]

Since I'm all hopped up on nastalgia let me say this. Will Mantooth was the greatest option qb in Texas hs football history.

[SLC93]

You're very welcome. Thanks for providing the memories to begin with.

;) :) I was a nobody but my friends were amazing.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

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[TXFOOSBALL]

Since I'm all hopped up on nastalgia let me say this. Will Mantooth was the greatest option qb in Texas hs football history.

Great memories...My first year in Southlake. I was in 3rd grade.


Good thing coaches let him play football and be on the rodeo team. My friend who was a couple years younger than them told me that the coaches approached Mantooth and told him he had to make a decision to play football or be on the rodeo team. He then said,"Ok I am doing the rodeo team." Coaches then decided to let him do both. :D

[Bobcat81]

Nice post. I enjoyed a little SL history lesson.

I had no idea yall ran the bone in 3a. How long did SL run the bone under Ledbetter?

[SLC93]

Nice post. I enjoyed a little SL history lesson.

I had no idea yall ran the bone in 3a. How long did SL run the bone under Ledbetter?

Ledbetter ran that offense until the day he retired. In the later years, under Lineweaver, the offense did evolve a little. As evidenced by a few of the clips, we could throw the ball a little. By the time coach Ledbetter left it was called a multibone offense which is basically a fancy wishbone.:D

[SLC93]

Great memories...My first year in Southlake. I was in 3rd grade.


Good thing coaches let him play football and be on the rodeo team. My friend who was a couple years younger than them told me that the coaches approached Mantooth and told him he had to make a decision to play football or be on the rodeo team. He then said,"Ok I am doing the rodeo team." Coaches then decided to let him do both. :D

Some folks thought Will was a little stuck up because of that but he wasn't. He was just a very focused kid who knew that his future in sports, beyond hs, was in rodeo. As special as he was running our offense, that was the end of football for him & he knew it. He'd been riding bulls since the 2nd grade & has made a living at it since. Toughest kid I've ever seen, known or even heard of.

[SLC13]

Thanks Boto24......great memories from when we had just moved to Southlake and first become Dragon fans!! :)

[TXFOOSBALL]

Some folks thought Will was a little stuck up because of that but he wasn't. He was just a very focused kid who knew that his future in sports, beyond hs, was in rodeo. As special as he was running our offense, that was the end of football for him & he knew it. He'd been riding bulls since the 2nd grade & has made a living at it since. Toughest kid I've ever seen, known or even heard of.

OK...so this story was true. Cool story!

[farmerfan]

Since I'm all hopped up on nastalgia let me say this. Will Mantooth was the greatest option qb in Texas hs football history.

Easy killer, Chad Nelson and Michael Odle were every bit as good if not better than Will Mantooth.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Easy killer, Chad Nelson and Michael Odle were every bit as good if not better than Will Mantooth.

Had Colby Freeman gone to Nebraska, he might have offered a pretty good argument here also. He was an absolute bull who would have been sensational at that level in that offense... much bigger and stronger than his brother, who's looking like he might start at Miami this year based on his two-a-days performance. Colby's team gave a loaded 1998 state champion Stephenville team (Kelan Luker, Cody Cardwell) their only blemish.

[farmerfan]

Had Colby Freeman gone to Nebraska, he might have offered a pretty good argument here also. He was an absolute bull who would have been sensational at that level in that offense... much bigger and stronger than his brother, who's looking like he might start at Miami this year based on his two-a-days performance. Colby's team gave a loaded 1998 state champion Stephenville team (Kelan Luker, Cody Cardwell) their only blemish.

Colby was an incredible QB. Threw for over 1800 and rushed for another 1500 his junior year and I think improved on those stats as a senior. Colby led The Wood to an undefeated regular season in 98 before bowing out to WF Rider I believe in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

[SLC93]

Easy killer, Chad Nelson and Michael Odle were every bit as good if not better than Will Mantooth.

I knew that would get the Farmer's attention.:D You may be right but I've seen as much option offense as you and I know who I'm taking.;) :p

[farmerfan]

I knew that would get the Farmer's attention.:D You may be right but I've seen as much option offense as you and I know who I'm taking.;) :p

You would lose too then. :eek:
Now me, I would have a hard time choosing between Nelson and Odle, most likely go with Odle and I would win. :D

[SLC93]

You would lose too then. :eek:
Now me, I would have a hard time choosing between Nelson and Odle, most likely go with Odle and I would win. :D

Give me the bullrider with sprinter's speed and receiver hands. In fact, give me the 1992 Dragons over the Farmer's title teams, either of them.:eek: :Censor: :D

[dragonsdaddy]

Give me the bullrider with sprinter's speed and receiver hands. In fact, give me the 1992 Dragons over the Farmer's title teams, either of them.:eek: :Censor: :D

as option qb's go, i'm thinking ledbetter could have beat you with his'n, and with your'n. none of those 3 were slouches by any means, and the scoreboards say as much.

[SLC93]

as option qb's go, i'm thinking ledbetter could have beat you with his'n, and with your'n. none of those 3 were slouches by any means, and the scoreboards say as much.

:D

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

You would lose too then. :eek:
Now me, I would have a hard time choosing between Nelson and Odle, most likely go with Odle and I would win. :D

I agree. Nelson was pretty salty. That state game I saw he was awesome. I don't think a team could of peaked on running the wishbone any better than Lewisville did that day.

[DrEdward]

Let's just say that Mantooth was a perfect fit for that version of the Carroll wishbone offense. No doubt, other QBs were more than solid as well, but they weren't at Carroll then.

[bulldog]

Here is an in-depth preview and recap of the 1992 3A State Championship game between Southlake Carroll and Coldspring shown on the Alamo High School Extra with host Craig Way. Carroll finished that season at 16-0 and finished 1993 with another 16-0 season before moving up to 4A in 1994. Coldspring finished with a 14-2 record. The 1992 team outscored opponents 803-122 and is considered by many to be the best 3A team of all time. This team is still #7 on the national list for points scored in a single season(http://nflhs.com/News/Records/11man_team_offense.asp)

What makes this scoring feat so remarkable is that it was done with a run-based offense and many times starters were pulled early in the 3rd quarter. This team may have easily scored 900+ points that year. None of the pass-oriented 5A championship teams that Carroll has produced in the last five years have scored as many points. Carroll fans, enjoy.
1992 3A Championship Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGBunEbo2Rw

1992 3A Championship Recap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSW5WcrZLs


it shouldn't surprise any of you about the scoring record. Because if you know football, or atleast the history and true ins-and-outs of the game, you would know that the offense that has the most 20+ yard plays, or what most coaches call "big plays", is the wishbone. And that stat is not from back in the day, it is a recent study. I will try and find documentation for you skeptics, but you can put it in the bank.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Colby was an incredible QB. Threw for over 1800 and rushed for another 1500 his junior year and I think improved on those stats as a senior. Colby led The Wood to an undefeated regular season in 98 before bowing out to WF Rider I believe in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

And, don't forget that Colby Freeman was also a state qualifier in the 110 hurdles, the 4x100 and 4x200 relays for the Brownwood Lions. Alot of people seem to forget about that.

[farmerfan]

Give me the bullrider with sprinter's speed and receiver hands. In fact, give me the 1992 Dragons over the Farmer's title teams, either of them.:eek: :Censor: :D

:eek: Easy there again killer. Not many on this board saw the 96 Farmers. The 96 Farmers are among the 5 best teams I have ever seen in my short life. They would have been too much for your 92 Fairy Tails. You just don't understand how good they were. They had one of THE TOUGHEST roads to a state championship any team has ever seen and won every game by at least 22 points.
The 93 version was pretty damn salty too. Led by a QB who also had sprinters speed, great hand eye cordination and could throw the football pretty well too. He may not have ridden bulls but he too was tough as nails.
I don't and will not knock the 92 version of Carroll, they were among the best I have ever seen but you are not giving our two title teams enough credit. It's ok nobody ever did during those seasons and they learned real quick how big of a mistake that was.

[farmerfan]

I agree. Nelson was pretty salty. That state game I saw he was awesome. I don't think a team could of peaked on running the wishbone any better than Lewisville did that day.

The 93 state game saw some impressive offense out of our bone. Nelson took our second play from scrimmage and went 49 yards for a TD. He scored two that afternoon to go along with his 180 yards rushing. As an offense we ran for 430 that afternoon. The 96 team was the one that put on the best display you could ever see out of a wishbone team. That was the team that ran for 534 yards on 52 rushing attempts against Judson. They scored 58 points a division 1 title game record that still stands and never attempted a single pass. That was the team that was textbook.

[SLC93]

:eek: Easy there again killer. Not many on this board saw the 96 Farmers. The 96 Farmers are among the 5 best teams I have ever seen in my short life. They would have been too much for your 92 Fairy Tails. You just don't understand how good they were. They had one of THE TOUGHEST roads to a state championship any team has ever seen and won every game by at least 22 points.
The 93 version was pretty damn salty too. Led by a QB who also had sprinters speed, great hand eye cordination and could throw the football pretty well too. He may not have ridden bulls but he too was tough as nails.
I don't and will not knock the 92 version of Carroll, they were among the best I have ever seen but you are not giving our two title teams enough credit. It's ok nobody ever did during those seasons and they learned real quick how big of a mistake that was.


You know I'm messing with ya, Farmer. I, personally, love the old Lewisville teams and the style the played.:) The my team is better than your team game is just too fun to pass up sometimes.;) We'd have took your 93 squad though.:D

[SLC93]

The 93 state game saw some impressive offense out of our bone. Nelson took our second play from scrimmage and went 49 yards for a TD. He scored two that afternoon to go along with his 180 yards rushing. As an offense we ran for 430 that afternoon. The 96 team was the one that put on the best display you could ever see out of a wishbone team. That was the team that ran for 534 yards on 52 rushing attempts against Judson. They scored 58 points a division 1 title game record that still stands and never attempted a single pass. That was the team that was textbook.

I've always wondered why that accomplishment hasn't/doesn't get more noteriety than it does. Every yard & point attained on the ground. That's like giving the defense your play and they still couldn't stop 'em. Remarkable, imo.

[maxtor]

:eek: Easy there again killer. Not many on this board saw the 96 Farmers. The 96 Farmers are among the 5 best teams I have ever seen in my short life. They would have been too much for your 92 Fairy Tails. You just don't understand how good they were. They had one of THE TOUGHEST roads to a state championship any team has ever seen and won every game by at least 22 points.


Lewisville was pretty salty in 96' and so was 92' Southlake. It's difficult to come to any agreement on who's best because of the 5A/3A issue. In the end it's the ace up your sleeve. I think it's reasonable to compare how dominant both programs were against their respective competition and not directly against one another. Which is impossible anyway.

With that said I would counter with "you didnt see Southlake in 92' did you"?
I remember sitting on the opponents side talking with people and on SLCs first play saying, "watch this". And like clockwork they scored within 1-3 plays. It wasnt domination. It was laughable.

Again, considering my ground rules for comparison in my opinion Lewisville 96' was a joke compared to SLC 92'(man did I just kick up some dust).

SLC outscored their opponents 803-122 or 48-6 ave.
Lewisville outscored their opponents 557-150 or 32-8 ave.

SLC outscored their opponents by 18 more points per game than Lewisville did with the same offense. Folks, its not even remotely close. EIGHTEEN PER GAME MORE!!!! This is huge. You blow somebody out and then add another 18 on top of that. Ever game.

And as for that 58 in the title game, very impressive. Lewisville also allowed 34 which is a 24 point win. Which a lot worse than SLC winning the title 48-0.

In the playoffs Lewisville outscored their opponents 225-69 or 45-13.
SLC outscored their opponents 322-63 or 54-11.

Go back and look at the records of SLCs playoff opponents in 92'. They were as good as Lewisvilles in 96'. To prove the point and save you some time consider that in 92' only district winners advanced in 3A. Most were undefeated with a couple that had a loss or 2(Lewisville I think also faced all district winners).

I understand the concept that its more impressive to score 50 by running than it is with a spread. Again, SLC ran the bone and had much better results than Lewisville did with it.

Lewisville pales by comparison.

Sorry for the Lewisville was a joke deal. Just a response to the SLC "fairy tail" jab.

[farmerfan]

Lewisville was pretty salty in 96' and so was 92' Southlake. It's difficult to come to any agreement on who's best because of the 5A/3A issue. In the end it's the ace up your sleeve. I think it's reasonable to compare how dominant both programs were against their respective competition and not directly against one another. Which is impossible anyway.

With that said I would counter with "you didnt see Southlake in 92' did you"?
I remember sitting on the opponents side talking with people and on SLCs first play saying, "watch this". And like clockwork they scored within 1-3 plays. It wasnt domination. It was laughable.

Again, considering my ground rules for comparison in my opinion Lewisville 96' was a joke compared to SLC 92'(man did I just kick up some dust).

SLC outscored their opponents 803-122 or 48-6 ave.
Lewisville outscored their opponents 557-150 or 32-8 ave.

SLC outscored their opponents by 18 more points per game than Lewisville did with the same offense. Folks, its not even remotely close. EIGHTEEN PER GAME MORE!!!! This is huge. You blow somebody out and then add another 18 on top of that. Ever game.

And as for that 58 in the title game, very impressive. Lewisville also allowed 34 which is a 24 point win. Which a lot worse than SLC winning the title 48-0.

In the playoffs Lewisville outscored their opponents 225-69 or 45-13.
SLC outscored their opponents 322-63 or 54-11.

Go back and look at the records of SLCs playoff opponents in 92'. They were as good as Lewisvilles in 96'. To prove the point and save you some time consider that in 92' only district winners advanced in 3A. Most were undefeated with a couple that had a loss or 2(Lewisville I think also faced all district winners).

I understand the concept that its more impressive to score 50 by running than it is with a spread. Again, SLC ran the bone and had much better results than Lewisville did with it.

Lewisville pales by comparison.

Sorry for the Lewisville was a joke deal. Just a response to the SLC "fairy tail" jab.

I saw 92 Southlake and have been very gracious to that team over the last 5 years of posting on this board. Nice attempt though.
You really want to compare numbers of 5A and 3A? Thats as stupid as it gets. We played 5 straight district champions in the playoffs. That day in 3A there were district champs and runner ups allowed in the playoffs. I can promise you did not play all district champs. It would have been impossible.
We had four backs that rushed for a thousand yards that season. What did Carroll have?
We gave up 34 to Judson in the state finals you guys gave up 35 to Vernon in the regionals. While we gave up 34 to a 5x State Champion we also scored 58, you scored 39 on a 1x state champion.
You think the 92 Dragons could hang with the 96 Farmers then give me some of what you are smoking.
Of course we all know that nobody has ever done anything as good as what the Dragons have done. What a moron I am for even thinking that :rolleyes:

[toddg]

I saw 92 Southlake and have been very gracious to that team over the last 5 years of posting on this board. Nice attempt though.
You really want to compare numbers of 5A and 3A? Thats as stupid as it gets. We played 5 straight district champions in the playoffs. That day in 3A there were district champs and runner ups allowed in the playoffs. I can promise you did not play all district champs. It would have been impossible.
We had four backs that rushed for a thousand yards that season. What did Carroll have?
We gave up 34 to Judson in the state finals you guys gave up 35 to Vernon in the regionals. While we gave up 34 to a 5x State Champion we also scored 58, you scored 39 on a 1x state champion.
You think the 92 Dragons could hang with the 96 Farmers then give me some of what you are smoking.
Of course we all know that nobody has ever done anything as good as what the Dragons have done. What a moron I am for even thinking that :rolleyes:

lewisville played duncanville, lubbock coronado, killeen ellison, haltom and judson..i only remember that because the farmers games were on 1310 the ticket every week and i was always on the road, listening to them was a ritual for me there for a while..:)

[drgnbkr]

I saw 92 Southlake and have been very gracious to that team over the last 5 years of posting on this board. Nice attempt though.
You really want to compare numbers of 5A and 3A? Thats as stupid as it gets. We played 5 straight district champions in the playoffs. That day in 3A there were district champs and runner ups allowed in the playoffs. I can promise you did not play all district champs. It would have been impossible.
We had four backs that rushed for a thousand yards that season. What did Carroll have?
We gave up 34 to Judson in the state finals you guys gave up 35 to Vernon in the regionals. While we gave up 34 to a 5x State Champion we also scored 58, you scored 39 on a 1x state champion.
You think the 92 Dragons could hang with the 96 Farmers then give me some of what you are smoking.
Of course we all know that nobody has ever done anything as good as what the Dragons have done. What a moron I am for even thinking that :rolleyes:

Farmer, no way, no how, is anybody going to take anything away from your 96 Farmers...Nor is anyone going to take anything away from our 92 Dragons..they were both among the best teams to come along...in any era, for any classification.

[grayowl60]

I saw 92 Southlake and have been very gracious to that team over the last 5 years of posting on this board. Nice attempt though.
You really want to compare numbers of 5A and 3A? Thats as stupid as it gets. We played 5 straight district champions in the playoffs. That day in 3A there were district champs and runner ups allowed in the playoffs. I can promise you did not play all district champs. It would have been impossible.
We had four backs that rushed for a thousand yards that season. What did Carroll have?
We gave up 34 to Judson in the state finals you guys gave up 35 to Vernon in the regionals. While we gave up 34 to a 5x State Champion we also scored 58, you scored 39 on a 1x state champion.
You think the 92 Dragons could hang with the 96 Farmers then give me some of what you are smoking.
Of course we all know that nobody has ever done anything as good as what the Dragons have done. What a moron I am for even thinking that :rolleyes:
This person is actually compairing 5a to 3a? thats silly. I am an old fan and I have seen some 4As that I thought could play top level 5a, but never 3a. And this person is actually compairing SCORES. No, thats... well I better not say:Censor:

[maxtor]

I saw 92 Southlake and have been very gracious to that team over the last 5 years of posting on this board. Nice attempt though.
You really want to compare numbers of 5A and 3A? Thats as stupid as it gets. We played 5 straight district champions in the playoffs. That day in 3A there were district champs and runner ups allowed in the playoffs. I can promise you did not play all district champs. It would have been impossible.
We had four backs that rushed for a thousand yards that season. What did Carroll have?
We gave up 34 to Judson in the state finals you guys gave up 35 to Vernon in the regionals. While we gave up 34 to a 5x State Champion we also scored 58, you scored 39 on a 1x state champion.
You think the 92 Dragons could hang with the 96 Farmers then give me some of what you are smoking.
Of course we all know that nobody has ever done anything as good as what the Dragons have done. What a moron I am for even thinking that :rolleyes:

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Good night.

[maxtor]

nm

[farmerfan]

Farmer, no way, no how, is anybody going to take anything away from your 96 Farmers...Nor is anyone going to take anything away from our 92 Dragons..they were both among the best teams to come along...in any era, for any classification.

Maxtor did just that. He got offended at a little jab like so many of y'all do. It was meant in good fun. If he knew anything he would know that I have been very complementary towards that 92 Dragon team during my time posting on this board. But he comes along and wants to diminish our season by taking jabs at not scoring 800 points or giving up 34 to Converse Judson concentrating on the negative while ignoring the positive.
Some of you guys get the wrap you do because it seems if anyone even wants to suggest anything might be remotely better than what you all have done some of the green brigade comes out in full force in an attempt to shoot you down.

[farmerfan]

lewisville played duncanville, lubbock coronado, killeen ellison, haltom and judson..i only remember that because the farmers games were on 1310 the ticket every week and i was always on the road, listening to them was a ritual for me there for a while..:)

In the order of games it was 10-0 Duncanville, 11-0 Haltom, 11-1 Lubbock Coranado, 11-2 Killeen Ellison and 13-1 Converse Judson. The only game we missed was the Coranado game since it was in Abilene and we had family in town for thankgsgiving.
Talk about a team not getting any respect. We were never state ranked throughout the season. :eek:

[CCHS77]

Talk about a team not getting any respect. We were never state ranked throughout the season. :eek:

That's happen to other state champs!