MNW signed another player to Miami

[supercentex]

UM nabs coveted Northwestern DT Forston

The University of Miami picked up another football commitment Thursday -- and it was a big one.

The mother of Miami Northwestern defensive tackle Marcus Forston (6-2, 300 pounds) said she drove down to UM's campus today so he could deliver the news in person.

''He did commit,'' said Karlene Simmons, who answered her son's cellphone late Thursday afternoon. ``He's real excited. But you'll have to ask him all about it when he gets home.''

Forston, rated the No. 2 defensive tackle in the country by Rivals.com and 29th-best regardless of position, told The Herald on Monday he was planning to wait to make his college announcement until he played in the U.S. Army All-American game in San Antonio in January. But apparently, his mom and Northwestern coach Billy Rolle said, Forston couldn't wait.

Forston is considered the top recruit in Miami-Dade this season. The Hurricanes got a commitment from Dade's No. 2 recruit, Northwestern receiver Aldarius Johnson, earlier this week. UM coach Randy Shannon now holds 16 commitments in all, including Broward's top recruit, cornerback Patrick Johnson.

Miami had two oral commitments this time last year.

[whs08]

UM nabs coveted Northwestern DT Forston

The University of Miami picked up another football commitment Thursday -- and it was a big one.

The mother of Miami Northwestern defensive tackle Marcus Forston (6-2, 300 pounds) said she drove down to UM's campus today so he could deliver the news in person.

''He did commit,'' said Karlene Simmons, who answered her son's cellphone late Thursday afternoon. ``He's real excited. But you'll have to ask him all about it when he gets home.''

Forston, rated the No. 2 defensive tackle in the country by Rivals.com and 29th-best regardless of position, told The Herald on Monday he was planning to wait to make his college announcement until he played in the U.S. Army All-American game in San Antonio in January. But apparently, his mom and Northwestern coach Billy Rolle said, Forston couldn't wait.

Forston is considered the top recruit in Miami-Dade this season. The Hurricanes got a commitment from Dade's No. 2 recruit, Northwestern receiver Aldarius Johnson, earlier this week. UM coach Randy Shannon now holds 16 commitments in all, including Broward's top recruit, cornerback Patrick Johnson.

Miami had two oral commitments this time last year.

good for him

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Jacory Harris was voted the #4 QB at the elite 11 camp earlier this week. Maybe one of his counselors, Mr. Chase D., found a few weaknesses and took notes. ;) He reportedly did very well and I think he's about to get bumped up with his national ranking (for whatever that's worth).

Rivals 100 WR Aldarious Johnson from MNW also committed to Miami earlier this week, and most believe that LB Sean Spence did also (despite his public denial).

That's 5 Bulls committed to Miami, with 2-4 to go (WR Streeter if he doesn't want to get out from under Johnson's shadow, DE/DT Ben Jones if he gets grades, OL Terrell Killings if the Canes miss out on better OL, and WR Kendall Thompkins if a few current WRs were to decommit). Reminiscent of Florida taking 7 or 8 kids from Lakeland's team last year.

[ScottS]

OakTree,
With all that talent, do you see them having a weakness? I'm not sure from a talent standpoint SLC has seen anything like this. I know Lufkin had some and so did Trinity, but MNW seems to have many ranked in the top 5 nationally at their position.

[supercentex]

They are trying to get a safety from Miami Central over to MNW. Isn't that crazy?

[Texasfrog]

They are trying to get a safety from Miami Central over to MNW. Isn't that crazy?

Summer time in Dade County is the basically the HS football free-agency period.:rolleyes:

[dragonsdaddy]

i had to re-read this as i initially took it as mnw got a safety from miami. doesn't seem so far fetched after hearing about the other transfers.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Summer time in Dade County is the basically the HS football free-agency period.:rolleyes:

LMAO!

[GBMonster76]

Randy Shannon is off and running in Dade County...he has a lot of connections at the local high schools, so for the first time in years UM is keeping the local talent in Miami. However, once they realize that Shannon isn't going to win at UM...the recruits will start dispersing again. UM needed new blood at that school...not a figure that was part of UM's downfall.

I'll tell you one thing, Shannon is getting some of the biggest studs you've ever seen in those MNW boys. Yes, this will be more talent than SLC has ever seen, by far.

But, I'm still predicting
SLC 31
MNW 21

However, if MNW had the discipline and coaching that SLC has...it would be MNW by 2 or 3 TD's.


www.gridironbrotherhood.com

[Texasfrog]

Randy Shannon is off and running in Dade County...he has a lot of connections at the local high schools, so for the first time in years UM is keeping the local talent in Miami. However, once they realize that Shannon isn't going to win at UM...the recruits will start dispersing again. UM needed new blood at that school...not a figure that was part of UM's downfall.

I'll tell you one thing, Shannon is getting some of the biggest studs you've ever seen in those MNW boys. Yes, this will be more talent than SLC has ever seen, by far.

But, I'm still predicting
SLC 31
MNW 21

However, if MNW had the discipline and coaching that SLC has...it would be MNW by 2 or 3 TD's.


www.gridironbrotherhood.com

I dont really know if I totally agree with that. I still think a couple of the Lufkin teams that SLC played were just as big, just as fast and just as talented as this (2007) MNW team.

Those Lufkin teams have many kids that are "staring" on the college (D-1A) level now and a few others that would be starring if they were still in college like M. Dixon (Freshman All-American) at Texas Tech.

[GBMonster76]

The Bulls are coming to town...


http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb302/dcoach76/MNWBulls.jpg




www.gridironbrotherhood.com

[RidgePride]

I dont really know if I totally agree with that. I still think a couple of the Lufkin teams that SLC played were just as big, just as fast and just as talented as this (2007) MNW team.

Those Lufkin teams have many kids that are "staring" on the college (D-1A) level now and a few others that would be starring if they were still in college like M. Dixon (Freshman All-American) at Texas Tech.

On Paper MNW will be the most star studded team SLC has ever faced.
However, The stars by someone's name is only a perception of college potentional.
Potential means you haven't done anything yet - and nothing is guaranteed.

Coach Wasson compared MNW to a mixture of Lufkin and South Grand Prairie after seeing them in person.

I see MNW as just a collection of a bunch of talent like the USA basketball all stars that get beat by the Euros.

[pied]

On Paper MNW will be the most star studded team SLC has ever faced.
However, The stars by someone's name is only a perception of potentional.
Potential means you haven't done anything yet - and nothing is guaranteed.

Coach Wasson compared MNW to a mixture of Lufkin and South Grand Prairie after seeing them in person.

I see MNW as just a collection of a bunch of talent like the USA basketball allstars that get beat by the Euros.


I disagree. The USA basketball team is brought together periodically to win a tournament that is not their primary focus. It is not a team that enters other tournaments and plays together.

MNW has been together and have won their ultimate goal, the state championship. I understand they added a OL, but what other transfers will play roles that were not part of their title team last year?

[RidgePride]

I disagree. The USA basketball team is brought together periodically to win a tournament that is not their primary focus. It is not a team that enters other tournaments and plays together.

MNW has been together and have won their ultimate goal, the state championship. I understand they added a OL, but what other transfers will play roles that were not part of their title team last year?

Understood however - I make the comparison because I don't think they play with the same type of discipline, chemistry, sophistication and team unity as Most Texas schools. If they do, they will beat SLC hands down.

The comparison is an exaggeration but it made a point.

[pied]

Understood however - I make the comparison because I don't think they play with the same type of discipline, chemistry, sophistication and team unity as Most Texas schools. If they do, they will beat SLC hands down.

The comparison is an exaggeration but it made a point.

Gotcha-Have you been able to watch any of their games?

I have only seen the title game with Lake Brantley, but I was surprised that I did not see a team with big celebrations/late hits/etc.

They did have a large number of offsides/procedure penalties, none that affected drives.

The chemistry as far as QB/WR seemed very good.

I honestly cannot comment to the team unity. I imagine they will have a chip on their shoulder, "us against the world menatality", but for me to comment past that would not be fair in my opinion.

[RidgePride]

I watched the Lake Brantley game too. Lake Brantley has the game on their website. The non showboating stuff did not surprise me at all. I was shocked that Lake Brantley ran the Flex Bone - which is just an extention of the wishbone.

[Favpack]

Who here really things new HC Randy Shannon will instill the discipline needed for Miami?

[KLH75287]

Summer time in Dade County is the basically the HS football free-agency period.:rolleyes:

That is funny.

Both teams are bringing mucho talent and tradition to the field. I still think a major key to this game is the teams ability to quickly gel under a new coach. Whichever team can pull this off should win this game, and may win it BIG.

SLC has to have the advantage on this bringing in a family member in Wasson, not to mention MNW has to replace their entire staff if I'm not mistaken.

Just my opinion

[supercentex]

I watched the Lake Brantley game too. Lake Brantley has the game on their website. The non showboating stuff did not surprise me at all. I was shocked that Lake Brantley ran the Flex Bone - which is just an extention of the wishbone.

Where is Lake Brantley's website? I want to watch the video.....

[RidgePride]

Here is a link however I could not find the game streamed. It may not be on there anymore or I just haven't found it again. Lake Brantley was a very one dimensional team. They hung with MNW for awhile.

Lake Brantley (http://www.lakebrantley.com/)

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Here is a link however I could not find the game streamed. It may not be on there anymore or I just haven't found it again. Lake Brantley was a very one dimensional team. They hung with MNW for awhile.

Lake Brantley (http://www.lakebrantley.com/)

Had they had a better secondary, Lake Brantley would have been very competitive deep into that game. Hope SLC's DBs can gel quickly. If those corners could grow a few more inches in the next month that'd be great, too. :D

[GBMonster76]

Here is a link however I could not find the game streamed. It may not be on there anymore or I just haven't found it again. Lake Brantley was a very one dimensional team. They hung with MNW for awhile.

Lake Brantley (http://www.lakebrantley.com/)


They hung with MNW for 1 quarter.

[RidgePride]

Had to steal this from Pied -

"They were tied midway through the second quarter, scored to go up by 7 which they held into half time.

Questionable PI call led to a TD in the third which helped break open the game.

Until that point the game was very much in question."

[TXFOOSBALL]

The mathcup between Forston and our offensive line is the matchup I look forward to the most. He is quite possibly the best DT in the entire nation for the 2008 class. Does anyone think that we are going to block this guy???If so, How?

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

The mathcup between Forston and our offensive line is the matchup I look forward to the most. He is quite possibly the best DT in the entire nation for the 2008 class. Does anyone think that we are going to block this guy???If so, How?

We'll find out how good Leppo, Jackson, and the new right guard (???) are very quickly. Leppo and Jackson are gamers, they proved that last year. Maybe one of the Dragons on board can tell us about the new RG.

[TrojanHorse03]

Jacory Harris was voted the #4 QB at the elite 11 camp earlier this week.
What were the other quarterbacks ranked at the camp?

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Counselors voted top four as:
1. Blaine Gabbert (Nebraska)
2. Mike Glennon (NC State)
3. EJ Manuel (FSU)
4. Jacory Harris (Miami)

Counselors:
Colt Brennan- Hawaii
Chase Daniel- Missouri
Chad Henne- Michigan
Nate Longshore- Cal
Mark Sanchez- USC
Andre Woodson- Kentucky

[TXFOOSBALL]

Counselors voted top four as:
1. Blaine Gabbert (Nebraska)
2. Mike Glennon (NC State)
3. EJ Manuel (FSU)
4. Jacory Harris (Miami)

Counselors:
Colt Brennan- Hawaii
Chase Daniel- Missouri
Chad Henne- Michigan
Nate Longshore- Cal
Mark Sanchez- USC
Andre Woodson- Kentucky

How did they choose the counselors?? Do you have an article link??

[78 Spartan]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.

It would be an embarrassment to Texas football from Dallas to Houston to San Antonio to West Texas if the Dragons don't win this home game.

[drgnbkr]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.

It would be an embarrassment to Texas football from Dallas to Houston to San Antonio to West Texas if the Dragons don't win this home game.

It's in Texas, but it's sure not home. Carroll has never played at SMU.

[ScottS]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.


Have your read my posts? All state it will be a tough game, going against this amount of talent. The only area I though MNW had a major weakness, was FG kicking and extra point kicks. Who knows, they might have that shored up for 2007.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

The Bulls are coming to town...


http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb302/dcoach76/MNWBulls.jpg




www.gridironbrotherhood.com

Jacory looks like he's 12.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

This website has a big write up of the Dragons-Bulls matchup;

www.clashofchampions.com

[nwbull]

They are trying to get a safety from Miami Central over to MNW. Isn't that crazy?

STOP ASSUMING:cool:

[nwbull]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.

It would be an embarrassment to Texas football from Dallas to Houston to San Antonio to West Texas if the Dragons don't win this home game.

PLEASE DON'T TAKE US SERIOUS:cool:

[nwbull]

Had they had a better secondary, Lake Brantley would have been very competitive deep into that game. Hope SLC's DBs can gel quickly. If those corners could grow a few more inches in the next month that'd be great, too. :D

THE BULLS ADJUST AS THE GAME GOES ON.SLC WILL HAVE US GUESSING BUT WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.:cool:

[nwbull]

The mathcup between Forston and our offensive line is the matchup I look forward to the most. He is quite possibly the best DT in the entire nation for the 2008 class. Does anyone think that we are going to block this guy???If so, How?

LISTEN THE PRESSURE IS ON MNW WE KNOW SLC IS 79-1

[nwbull]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.

It would be an embarrassment to Texas football from Dallas to Houston to San Antonio to West Texas if the Dragons don't win this home game.

AND IF YOU LOOSE THIS GAME GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT BELONGS BECAUSE I WILL DO THE SAME IN RETURN:cool: :cool: :cool:

[Texasfrog]

They hung with MNW for 1 quarter.

The game was pretty tight the entire 1st half. What hurt Lake Brantley more than anything was a lack of a quality secondary.

MNW had a hard time stopping Lake Brantley's running game during the first half and in the second half Lake Brantley had several large runs by the QB who usually ended the play by fumbling the football (unforced).

Nothing special about Lake Brantley's offense (O-line or RB's) yet they made many nice plays against this so called vaunted MNW defense.

I suggest MNW practice on watching the football and not jumping offsides. In not they will give SLC about 200 yards of penalities yardage.;)

[nwbull]

The game was pretty tight the entire 1st half. What hurt Lake Brantley more than anything was a lack of a quality secondary.

MNW had a hard time stopping Lake Brantley's running game during the first half and in the second half Lake Brantley had several large runs by the QB who usually ended the play by fumbling the football (unforced).

Nothing special about Lake Brantley's offense (O-line or RB's) yet they made many nice plays against this so called vaunted MNW defense.

I suggest MNW practice on watching the football and not jumping offsides. In not they will give SLC about 200 yards of penalities yardage.;)

WE ARE AWARE THE REFS WILL BE IN SLC FAVOR,JUST LOOK AT THE NBA

[BDB]

WE ARE AWARE THE REFS WILL BE IN SLC FAVOR,JUST LOOK AT THE NBA

woa....... this rivals one of cajuns post.

so now if MNW looses it's just on the refs :rolleyes:

but when they win? FLA SUPREMECY!!!!!!! :puke

[Texasfrog]

WE ARE AWARE THE REFS WILL BE IN SLC FAVOR,JUST LOOK AT THE NBA

Ref's have nothing to do with Defensive players jumping offsides.;)

Kinda like what MNW did like 9 times against Lake Brantley in the FlA Title game.

But hey, get the Excuses ready. I see excuse #1 "Refs stole the game.":rolleyes:

[drgnbkr]

WE ARE AWARE THE REFS WILL BE IN SLC FAVOR,JUST LOOK AT THE NBA

Thats a dopey comment...what are you talking about?

[Texasfrog]

On Paper MNW will be the most star studded team SLC has ever faced.
However, The stars by someone's name is only a perception of college potentional.
Potential means you haven't done anything yet - and nothing is guaranteed.

Coach Wasson compared MNW to a mixture of Lufkin and South Grand Prairie after seeing them in person.

I see MNW as just a collection of a bunch of talent like the USA basketball all stars that get beat by the Euros.

MNW has the most "National Prospects" than SLC has ever played against. The key word is Prospects.

My point is that NWBULL claims that SLC has never seen a team with the size or speed like this MNW team. I dont agree with that at all.

A couple of those Lufkin teams had many D-1A prospects and they also had some good size and great speed. If you lined up those Lufkin teams with this MNW team the difference in size and speed would be just about zero.

Those Lufkin teams had 7 or so kids on defense that went D-1A and several kids on offense that went D-1A and even D-1AA.

Look at what those Lufkin teams could bring at you. Nice size on the O-line that is well coached. Big FB that could pound you and then throw a contrast with several scat-backs to offset J-Lane pounding.

Athletic QB and several skilled WR's.

PS. As far as size goes... Neither those Lufkin teams or this MNW is bigger than last years ET team.

[nwbull]

MNW has the most "National Prospects" than SLC has ever played against. The key word is Prospects.

My point is that NWBULL claims that SLC has never seen a team with the size or speed like this MNW team. I dont agree with that at all.

A couple of those Lufkin teams had many D-1A prospects and they also had some good size and great speed. If you lined up those Lufkin teams with this MNW team the difference in size and speed would be just about zero.

Those Lufkin teams had 7 or so kids on defense that went D-1A and several kids on offense that went D-1A and even D-1AA.

Look at what those Lufkin teams could bring at you. Nice size on the O-line that is well coached. Big FB that could pound you and then throw a contrast with several scat-backs to offset J-Lane pounding.

Athletic QB and several skilled WR's.

PS. As far as size goes... Neither those Lufkin teams or this MNW is bigger than last years ET team.

YOU'VE NEVER READ THAT I SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SIZE AND SPEED WE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THAT WE HAVE HEART

[nwbull]

Mnw Doesn't Make Excuses You Win Or Loose And Impress Me After This Game And Come To Miami Next Year To Play

[BDB]

YOU'VE NEVER READ THAT I SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SIZE AND SPEED WE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THAT WE HAVE HEART

no bad mouthing, no trash talk. just football.

heart is a great thing to have, but like i asked before, what happens when MNW blows an assignment? wont heart turn to anger? or even despair?

heart is a great thing to have, and so is talent, but your HC better be able to calm your #$$ down before the next possesion or else its gonna be a long game.

[fireaway]

I hope the players and coaching staff at Southlake Carroll are taking MNW a little more seriously than some of the SLC posters are. I think the Bulls are going to give the Dragons a hell of a test.

It would be an embarrassment to Texas football from Dallas to Houston to San Antonio to West Texas if the Dragons don't win this home game.

Dude, Im going to tell you and everybody else this here...The players...hell the dragon nation has NOTHING to prove to ANYONE.....Riley, if he loses could care less, to a bunch of thugs...they're already national champions anyway and hes got college around the corner...the masses are creating this pressure- SLC will do what they do and I hope they whoop some *** but you need to know that they will win...or lose it for themselves and them alone because they already have pride

leave it to MNW to turn this into a gang war or a racist ref battle...as far as us texas people are concerned...lets just watch some damn good football!!!!:D

[BDB]

Mnw Doesn't Make Excuses You Win Or Loose And Impress Me After This Game And Come To Miami Next Year To Play

theres no money in going to FLA.

your school is (someone correct me) split the gate with SLC.

thats prolly gonna be 20,000. as compared to a game in FLA that will draw?

its better to go to ohio, or GA or somewhere where there is some money being made.

[nwbull]

Slc Has A Great Record But Your Fan Disrespect Mnw With This 45 To 14 Score We Have Pride Baby Lets Do It

[nwbull]

Ball Control Slc Has This All World Offense But If You Are Sitting On The Bench O-well

[BDB]

Ball Control Slc Has This All Word Offense But If You Are Sitting On The Bench O-well

thats right...... that dade county speed...... :o why even show up :rolleyes:

[DragonBand06]

Ball Control Slc Has This All WorLd Offense But If You Are Sitting On The Bench O-well
The only reason we're sitting on the bench is cause we score so quickly :cool:

[Texasfrog]

Mnw Doesn't Make Excuses You Win Or Loose And Impress Me After This Game And Come To Miami Next Year To Play

"Ha-Ha" and MNW will have what next year ?

[Kingwolf]

Slc Has A Great Record But Your Fan Disrespect Mnw With This 45 To 14 Score We Have Pride Baby Lets Do It

do what??? get beat????

how many SLC players have you seen on the news already talking about how much better they are than MNW????? Z-E-R-O....

My God this game needs to get here!!!!!

[Texasfrog]

thats right...... that dade county speed...... :o why even show up :rolleyes:

Oh ya, the Miami-Dade All-World "SPEED" game. I forgot they had real speed there.:rolleyes:

[Kingwolf]

Oh ya, the Miami-Dade All-World "SPEED" game. I forgot they had real speed there.:rolleyes:

the only SPEED they will bring will be in little baggies....:D

[BDB]

Oh ya, the Miami-Dade All-World "SPEED" game. I forgot they had real speed there.:rolleyes:

"everyone else is just jogging" LMAO!

[nwbull]

do what??? get beat????

how many SLC players have you seen on the news already talking about how much better they are than MNW????? Z-E-R-O....

My God this game needs to get here!!!!!

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS IT'S YOUR FAN BASE MAKING GROSS STATEMENTS AS IF YOU DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL IN TEXAS YOU CAN'T PLAY WELL SEPT.15 WILL TELL IF WE ARE SECOND CLASS OR NOT. WE HAVE PRIDE TO. TEXAS ISN'T THE ONLY STATE THAT PLAYS SOLID FOOTBALL.

[Texasfrog]

the only SPEED they will bring will be in little baggies....:D

Ohhhh,, taking some low shots kingwolf.:D :eek:

PS. Man, you havent heard of that All-World Miami-Dade Co. speed ? Shoot man they have real speed there and places like Texas. Shoot, we're just walking dude.;)

[BDB]

the only SPEED they will bring will be in little baggies....:D

......... you're thinking of SLC :eek:

the color of the baggies will be the same as your avatar :eek: :eek:

HAHAHA! got both sides.

[nwbull]

the only SPEED they will bring will be in little baggies....:D

MIGHTY BULLS, TALK IS CHEAP

[DragonBand06]

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS IT'S YOUR FAN BASE MAKING GROSS STATEMENTS AS IF YOU DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL IN TEXAS YOU CAN'T PLAY WELL SEPT.15 WILL TELL IF WE ARE SECOND CLASS OR NOT. WE HAVE PRIDE TO. TEXAS ISN'T THE ONLY STATE THAT PLAYS SOLID FOOTBALL.
Who said you can't play well if you don't play in Texas? We just said that TX Football is THE BEST.

[Texasfrog]

"everyone else is just jogging" LMAO!

Or walking..:D Shoot man, here in Texas where playing with walkers compared to that Florida speed !!:eek:

[nwbull]

The only reason we're sitting on the bench is cause we score so quickly :cool:

DIFFERENT ANIMAL MIGHTY BULLS.

[DragonBand06]

MIGHTY BULLS, TALK IS CHEAP
But that good stuff sure aint! :eek:

[BDB]

Or walking..:D Shoot man, here in Texas where playing with walkers compared to that Florida speed !!:eek:

i heard their shoes melt off after some of the runs they pull :eek:

[DragonBand06]

DIFFERENT ANIMAL MIGHTY BULLS.
Do not mess with the Dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. ;)

[BDB]

DIFFERENT ANIMAL MIGHTY BULLS.

stay classy ron burgandy.

stay classy this is ron burandy

stay classy burgandy **ahem**

[Kingwolf]

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS IT'S YOUR FAN BASE MAKING GROSS STATEMENTS AS IF YOU DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL IN TEXAS YOU CAN'T PLAY WELL SEPT.15 WILL TELL IF WE ARE SECOND CLASS OR NOT. WE HAVE PRIDE TO. TEXAS ISN'T THE ONLY STATE THAT PLAYS SOLID FOOTBALL.

Most posters did not say this kind of stuff until it was obvious that just about every sportscaster, Florida fan, and idiot with a microphone did not give SLC the respect they deserve....

What I have heard is ignorant comments like..."It seems that because the majority of them are affluent white kids then they must be on steroids or benefiting from multi-million dollar facilities; the black RB is a punk, they can't play with real teams, etc, etc, etc..."

the truth is (as I have said many times before) I want, no I hope, to see SLC's reign end this year, but not by a team from another state and especially one who disrespects what SLC has done...

give respect and you will get it....

[nwbull]

Or walking..:D Shoot man, here in Texas where playing with walkers compared to that Florida speed !!:eek:

REMEMBER I TOLD YOU THIS,AFTER EVERYTHING MNW HAS BEEN THROUGH WE ONLY GET STRONGER WE WILL WIN THIS GAME

[BDB]

Do not mess with the Dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. ;)

LMAO!

that one made me laugh

new sig.

[Texasfrog]

Most posters did not say this kind of stuff until it was obvious that just about every sportscaster, Florida fan, and idiot with a microphone did not give SLC the respect they deserve....

What I have heard is ignorant comments like..."It seems that because the majority of them are affluent white kids then they must be on steroids or benefiting from multi-million dollar facilities; the black RB is a punk, they can't play with real teams, etc, etc, etc..."

the truth is (as I have said many times before) I want, no I hope, to see SLC's reign end this year, but not by a team from another state and especially one who disrespects what SLC has done...

give respect and you will get it....

Of coarse the black kid (Newton) is a punk playing on the rich white boy school.

Those two black kids last year (Ford brothers) must be punks also since both of them are going to Georgetown Univ. in Washington DC. They must be really stupid also.;)

Wonder how many kids from MNW football team have gone or going to go to Georgetown or some other Ivy Leauge caliber school ?

[nwbull]

Most posters did not say this kind of stuff until it was obvious that just about every sportscaster, Florida fan, and idiot with a microphone did not give SLC the respect they deserve....

What I have heard is ignorant comments like..."It seems that because the majority of them are affluent white kids then they must be on steroids or benefiting from multi-million dollar facilities; the black RB is a punk, they can't play with real teams, etc, etc, etc..."

the truth is (as I have said many times before) I want, no I hope, to see SLC's reign end this year, but not by a team from another state and especially one who disrespects what SLC has done...

give respect and you will get it....

I WANT ENTERTAIN THIS RACE THING THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL MNW IS AN ALL BLACK SCHOOL WE WANT THE TITLE THAT YOU HAVE IT'S ABOUT FOOTBALL NOT COLOR LET'S KEEP IT RESPECTFUL

[nwbull]

Of coarse the black kid (Newton) is a punk playing on the rich white boy school.

Those two black kids last year (Ford brothers) must be punks also since both of them are going to Georgetown Univ. in Washington DC. They must be really stupid also.;)

Wonder how many kids from MNW football team have gone or going to go to Georgetown or some other Ivy Leauge caliber school ?

LOOK YOU HAVE IGNORANCE IN TEXAS AND FLORIDA SO LET'S IGNORE THAT AND TALK TRASH ABOUT OUR TEAMS RESPECTFULLY

[Texasfrog]

LOOK YOU HAVE IGNORANCE IN TEXAS AND FLORIDA SO LET'S IGNORE THAT AND TALK TRASH ABOUT OUR TEAMS RESPECTFULLY

Listen.. I dont bring up race that much in football. I think with HS football that is really doesnt matter.

I've learned over many years of watching HS football that "Race" means nothing and Blue-chip prospects mean almost less.

In Texas we've seen this many times over the years. White kids playing against Black kids and ect.

It's something that you dont really see in Miami-Dade because almost all of the teams there are 100% African-American. The idea that a team loaded with "white kids" can play at an elite level is very very foreign to the people there.;)

[DrEdward]

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS IT'S YOUR FAN BASE MAKING GROSS STATEMENTS AS IF YOU DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL IN TEXAS YOU CAN'T PLAY WELL SEPT.15 WILL TELL IF WE ARE SECOND CLASS OR NOT. WE HAVE PRIDE TO. TEXAS ISN'T THE ONLY STATE THAT PLAYS SOLID FOOTBALL.

nwbull, would you please stop yelling. It is much more difficult to read your statements. In case you didn't notice along the way, in one of the never-ending series of comments on this game, Carroll takes MNW quite seriously and has nothing but regard for the athletic talent on your team. Obviously, some around here do not think that you will be able to stay with Carroll; many others, disagree and expect a close game. Count me in that camp. You can not seriously sit here and tell us that the MNW fans don't feel the same way. Some, perhaps most, expect to dominate Carroll; others expect a much closer game. Our principal differences have been with the behavior of the coaches and the administration of the school, not with the performance on the field. By the way, September 15th will not make anybody second class one way or the other. We are all well aware that Florida high school football is played well, just as it is in Texas.

[nwbull]

nwbull, would you please stop yelling. It is much more difficutl to read your statements. In case you didn't notice along the way, in one of the never-ending series of comments on this game, Carroll takes MNW quite seriously and has nothing but regard for the athletic talent on your team. Obviously, some around here do not think that you will be able to stay with Carroll; many others, disagree and expect a close game. Count me in that camp. You can not seriously sitt here and tell us that the MNW fans don't feel the same way. Some, perhaps most, expect to dominate Carroll; others expect a much closer game. Our principal differences have been with the behavior of the coaches and the administration of the school, not with the performance on the field. By the way, September 15th will not make anybody second class one way or the other. We are all well aware that Florida high school football is played well, just as it is in Texas.
NOW I REPSPECT YOUR COMMENTS

[nwbull]

Randy Shannon is off and running in Dade County...he has a lot of connections at the local high schools, so for the first time in years UM is keeping the local talent in Miami. However, once they realize that Shannon isn't going to win at UM...the recruits will start dispersing again. UM needed new blood at that school...not a figure that was part of UM's downfall.

I'll tell you one thing, Shannon is getting some of the biggest studs you've ever seen in those MNW boys. Yes, this will be more talent than SLC has ever seen, by far.

But, I'm still predicting
SLC 31
MNW 21

However, if MNW had the discipline and coaching that SLC has...it would be MNW by 2 or 3 TD's.


www.gridironbrotherhood.com

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT RANDY SHANNON WILL DO FIRST YOU NEED PLAYERS AND HE'S DOING THAT.

[78 Spartan]

nwbull, would you please stop yelling. It is much more difficult to read your statements. In case you didn't notice along the way, in one of the never-ending series of comments on this game, Carroll takes MNW quite seriously and has nothing but regard for the athletic talent on your team. Obviously, some around here do not think that you will be able to stay with Carroll; many others, disagree and expect a close game. Count me in that camp. You can not seriously sit here and tell us that the MNW fans don't feel the same way. Some, perhaps most, expect to dominate Carroll; others expect a much closer game. Our principal differences have been with the behavior of the coaches and the administration of the school, not with the performance on the field. By the way, September 15th will not make anybody second class one way or the other. We are all well aware that Florida high school football is played well, just as it is in Texas.

Very well stated.

[Texasfrog]

NOW I REPSPECT YOUR COMMENTS

NWBULL, this time last night I was at Hollywood Beach hanging out and having some cold ones at Capones. Know where it is ? Next to the tub.

[nwbull]

NWBULL, this time last night I was at Hollywood Beach hanging out and having some cold ones at Capones. Know where it is ? Next to the tub.

BULLS-4-LIFE

[Texasfrog]

BULLS-4-LIFE

What is that ? Looks like a telephone number.

Do you know where Capones is in Hollywood Beach ? I also hung out at the Blue Martinee in Fort Lauderdale off of Sunrise.

I spent almost this past week at a good friends house in Weston and went out almost every night.

Spent two nights at the Carolina Ale House in Weston chilling and having some fun.

I went to Cafe Iquinas off of Pines Ave one night but that place sucks now.

[ScottS]

Mnw Doesn't Make Excuses You Win Or Loose And Impress Me After This Game And Come To Miami Next Year To Play

A trip to SouthBeach sounds good to me.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

At the University of Miami's pre-season "Canesfest" yesterday, Miami commitment Jordan Futch, Rivals 100 member (#6 outside linebacker in the country), mentioned to one message board poster that he may be transferring to Miami Northwestern because his coach (Mark Guondola of Chaminade Madonna) left his high school this off-season. That's the latest message board rumor making the rounds.

Take that for what it's worth... message board rumor from someone who is completely anonymous, but will be interesting to see if it happens.

[ScottS]

At the University of Miami's pre-season "Canesfest" yesterday, Miami commitment Jordan Futch, Rivals 100 member (#6 outside linebacker in the country), mentioned to one message board poster that he may be transferring to Miami Northwestern because his coach (Mark Guondola of Chaminade Madonna) left his high school this off-season. That's the latest message board rumor making the rounds.

Take that for what it's worth... message board rumor from someone who is completely anonymous, but will be interesting to see if it happens.

It sounds like by the time the game starts, they will have the top players in the Miami area.

[drgnbkr]

It sounds like by the time the game starts, they will have the top players in the Miami area.

Yep, they have been classified a Dolphins Farm Team.

[TxAllDay]

Listen.. I dont bring up race that much in football. I think with HS football that is really doesnt matter.

I've learned over many years of watching HS football that "Race" means nothing and Blue-chip prospects mean almost less.

In Texas we've seen this many times over the years. White kids playing against Black kids and ect.

It's something that you dont really see in Miami-Dade because almost all of the teams there are 100% African-American. The idea that a team loaded with "white kids" can play at an elite level is very very foreign to the people there.;)


what are u talkin about???
its only a hanful of teams that are mostly black in miami... lol
central, norland, cc, northwestern, btw, edison, nmb, southridge, and jackson are the only schools i can think of that have mostly black football teams. killian, homestead, southdade, south miami and palmetto are like 50/50 so thats like 9 schools out of like 35 that have mostly black teams...

what are u guys talkin about on this board???
they only have 2 transfers. a senior to be o-lineman b. washington who left edison bacause his coach left to go to UM... he stays in mnw school district, he was going to edison for their coach... the other transfer is a sophomore to be rb corvin lamb who was at a private school st thomas aquinas in broward and moved into mnw school district thus makin mnw his homeschool... so u guys can come up wit the conspiracy stories all ya want. but from what i've read, it shouldnt matter because tx/slc coaching is soo much better that the athletes that mnw brings to the table will be null in void.

[TxAllDay]

At the University of Miami's pre-season "Canesfest" yesterday, Miami commitment Jordan Futch, Rivals 100 member (#6 outside linebacker in the country), mentioned to one message board poster that he may be transferring to Miami Northwestern because his coach (Mark Guondola of Chaminade Madonna) left his high school this off-season. That's the latest message board rumor making the rounds.

Take that for what it's worth... message board rumor from someone who is completely anonymous, but will be interesting to see if it happens.

its too late to transfer and play football this upcoming season. u have to be enrolled in the school by the time summer session starts. they were goin to make an exception for the mnw players if their season got cancelled. that is all....

[SLC93]

Gotcha-Have you been able to watch any of their games?

I have only seen the title game with Lake Brantley, but I was surprised that I did not see a team with big celebrations/late hits/etc.

They did have a large number of offsides/procedure penalties, none that affected drives.
The chemistry as far as QB/WR seemed very good.

I honestly cannot comment to the team unity. I imagine they will have a chip on their shoulder, "us against the world menatality", but for me to comment past that would not be fair in my opinion.

I'm not saying MNW is a showboating/dirty team but, as far as the title game goes, remember that they had the entire nation watching as a result of the Easterling ordeal. They were on their best behavior. As a team they lost well over a 100o yards last season to penalties. That doesn't speak well to the overall discipline.

[SLC93]

The mathcup between Forston and our offensive line is the matchup I look forward to the most. He is quite possibly the best DT in the entire nation for the 2008 class. Does anyone think that we are going to block this guy???If so, How?

Forston has all the physical tools but his national reputation is not too good. Most scouts have serious reservations about his motor & desire. He will not be an over riding factor in this game.

[SLC93]

Jacory looks like he's 12.

He's built like a 12 year old too. Got alot of filling out to do but has the frame for it.

[SLC93]

WE ARE AWARE THE REFS WILL BE IN SLC FAVOR,JUST LOOK AT THE NBA

Your homestate refs penalized this team for over 1000 yards last season. If they get called for penalties here it will be because they committed them.

[TxAllDay]

Randy Shannon is off and running in Dade County...he has a lot of connections at the local high schools, so for the first time in years UM is keeping the local talent in Miami. However, once they realize that Shannon isn't going to win at UM...the recruits will start dispersing again. UM needed new blood at that school...not a figure that was part of UM's downfall.

I'll tell you one thing, Shannon is getting some of the biggest studs you've ever seen in those MNW boys. Yes, this will be more talent than SLC has ever seen, by far.

But, I'm still predicting
SLC 31
MNW 21

However, if MNW had the discipline and coaching that SLC has...it would be MNW by 2 or 3 TD's.


www.gridironbrotherhood.com


lol why wouldnt randy shannon win???
every head coach that comes to miami not under a probation period wins and wins quickly and often...
hell dennis erickson won 2 titles there and if i remember correctly brought the "U" out to tx when the horns were doin sum serious trash talkin and u all know what happened... lmao
the canes "D" under randy shannon was only ranked out the top 10 once. and even then they were 12th...
the thing about coker was when he took over the canes they were hungry cuz they hadnt won a championship in a while and didnt need any motivation...
coker wasnt a good motivator and his latter teams (mostly offensive) didnt have the motivation or the mental toughness to keep fighting or to overcome mistakes...
the "D" was not the problem ever...
thats what divided the team, defensive players putting blame on the offensive players and the offensive players putting blame on the offensive coaches...
from what i hear shannon has quelled all of that sh*t...
he'll be fine there...

[SLC93]

Ball Control Slc Has This All World Offense But If You Are Sitting On The Bench O-well

:confused: Now MNW is a ball control offense? How is that again? They run a spread and have to replace a 3500 yard rusher this season. You're killin me smalls!

[drgnbkr]

lol why wouldnt randy shannon win???
every head coach that comes to miami not under a probation period wins and wins quickly and often...
hell dennis erickson won 2 titles there and if i remember correctly brought the "U" out to tx when the horns were doin sum serious trash talkin and u all know what happened... lmao
the canes "D" under randy shannon was only ranked out the top 10 once. and even then they were 12th...
the thing about coker was when he took over the canes they were hungry cuz they hadnt won a championship in a while and didnt need any motivation...
coker wasnt a good motivator and his latter teams (mostly offensive) didnt have the motivation or the mental toughness to keep fighting or to overcome mistakes...
the "D" was not the problem ever...
thats what divided the team, defensive players putting blame on the offensive players and the offensive players putting blame on the offensive coaches...
from what i hear shannon has quelled all of that sh*t...
he'll be fine there...

It appears that he has found the perfect recruiting ground for that good old Miami character...MNW...

[Texasfrog]

what are u talkin about???
its only a hanful of teams that are mostly black in miami... lol
central, norland, cc, northwestern, btw, edison, nmb, southridge, and jackson are the only schools i can think of that have mostly black football teams. killian, homestead, southdade, south miami and palmetto are like 50/50 so thats like 9 schools out of like 35 that have mostly black teams...

what are u guys talkin about on this board???
they only have 2 transfers. a senior to be o-lineman b. washington who left edison bacause his coach left to go to UM... he stays in mnw school district, he was going to edison for their coach... the other transfer is a sophomore to be rb corvin lamb who was at a private school st thomas aquinas in broward and moved into mnw school district thus makin mnw his homeschool... so u guys can come up wit the conspiracy stories all ya want. but from what i've read, it shouldnt matter because tx/slc coaching is soo much better that the athletes that mnw brings to the table will be null in void.


Please.. almost all of the schools in the Dade Co. area are 100% African American. I'll say this at least. Almost all of the public schools.

There is a few South of Downtown in the Kendall area on down to Homestead that are 50-50 (African American & Latino) but most of the Dade Co.

But I'll say it again. The idea too many of y'all that a 99.9% all white team can play with a 100% African-American (loaded blue-chip team) like MNW is totally foreign and the mear idea that they can actually compete and possibly beat MNW is a joke.

[ScottS]

its too late to transfer and play football this upcoming season. u have to be enrolled in the school by the time summer session starts. they were goin to make an exception for the mnw players if their season got cancelled. that is all....

I'm sure they will find a way to make it work. In fact, I expect all the top players in the Miami metro area to transfer into MNW on September 14th and back out on September 16th.

[nwbull]

:confused: Now MNW is a ball control offense? How is that again? They run a spread and have to replace a 3500 yard rusher this season. You're killin me smalls!

I LOVE THIS BALL CONTROL EVERY GAME IS DIFFERENT ASK THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS. REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU MNW WILL WIN.

[TxAllDay]

Please.. almost all of the schools in the Dade Co. area are 100% African American. I'll say this at least. Almost all of the public schools.

There is a few South of Downtown in the Kendall area on down to Homestead that are 50-50 (African American & Latino) but most of the Dade Co.

But I'll say it again. The idea too many of y'all that a 99.9% all white team can play with a 100% African-American (loaded blue-chip team) like MNW is totally foreign and the mear idea that they can actually compete and possibly beat MNW is a joke.

DUDE I'M FROM MIAMI, U HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT U ARE TALKIN ABOUT...
MOST OF MIAMI IS HISPANIC/LATIN AND I KNOW FOR A FACT U ARE CLUELESS...
THERE ARE ONLY A FEW AREAS IN MIAMI THAT ARE MOSTLY BLACK FIRST OF ALL...

PERRINE/RICHMOND HEIGHTS/CUTLER RIDGE/GOULDS WHICH SPLIT THE KIDS UP AMONGST 5 SCHOOLS FOR DIVERSITY REASONS: KILLIAN, PALMETTO, SOUTH DADE, SOUTHRIDGE AND CORAL REEF AND SOUTHRIDGE IS THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT HAS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM OF THE 5.

PARTS OF SOUTHMIAMI/COCONUT GROVE WHICH SPLIT THEIR KIDS AMOUNGST 2 SCHOOLS FOR DIVERSITY REASONS: SOUTH MIAMI HIGH, CORAL GABLES HIGH AND NONE OF THEIR FOOTBALL TEAMS ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

OVERTOWN, LIL HAITI, AND LIBERTY CITY WHICH IS HIGH IN POPULATION SO DIVERSITY FOR SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS ISNT POSSIBLE. SPLIT AMONGST 6 SCHOOLS MIAMI JACKSON, BTW, MIAMI SPRINGS, MNW, MIAMI EDISON, AND MIAMI HIGH. MIAMI HIGH AND MIAMI SPRINGS FOOTBALL TEAMS ARE THE ONES THAT ARENT PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

OPALOCKA, MIAMI GARDENS AND CARROL CITY WHICH SERVICE 7 SCHOOLS MIAMI CENTRAL, HIELEAH HIGH, NORTH MIAMI, NORTHMIAMI BEACH, CARROL CITY, NORLAND, AND AMERICAN HIGH AND HIELEAH HIGH, AND AMERICAN ARENT PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

THATS 10 SCHOOLS AND I'LL THROW IN HOMESTEAD EVEN THO THEY'RE SCHOOL ISNT MOSTLY BLACK SO THAT MAKES 11 OF THE 35-40 HIGHSCHOOLS IN MIAMI THAT FIELD A MOSTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM...

SO IF U CAN NAME ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT HAS A PREDOMINANLTY BLACK TEAM LET ME KNOW...
I KNOW THE DEMOGRAGHICS MAN, I'M FROM THERE, MY FRIENDS COACH THERE, MY MOM LIVES BUT I'M GOIN TO LET U TELL ME ABOUT THE PLACE I'M FROM AND GIVE ME MORE BLACK FOOTBALL TEAMS IN DADE...

[nwbull]

Forston has all the physical tools but his national reputation is not too good. Most scouts have serious reservations about his motor & desire. He will not be an over riding factor in this game.

FORSTON IS A MONSTER YOU WILL FIND OUT,UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL

[drgnbkr]

FORSTON IS A MONSTER YOU WILL FIND OUT,UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL

Caps lock...c'mon..you can do it...take a deep breath and undo the caps lock....we're pulling for ya...c'mmmmonnnnn....

[Texasfrog]

DUDE I'M FROM MIAMI, U HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT U ARE TALKIN ABOUT...
MOST OF MIAMI IS HISPANIC/LATIN AND I KNOW FOR A FACT U ARE CLUELESS...
THERE ARE ONLY A FEW AREAS IN MIAMI THAT ARE MOSTLY BLACK FIRST OF ALL...

PERRINE/RICHMOND HEIGHTS/CUTLER RIDGE/GOULDS WHICH SPLIT THE KIDS UP AMONGST 5 SCHOOLS FOR DIVERSITY REASONS: KILLIAN, PALMETTO, SOUTH DADE, SOUTHRIDGE AND CORAL REEF AND SOUTHRIDGE IS THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT HAS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM OF THE 5.

PARTS OF SOUTHMIAMI/COCONUT GROVE WHICH SPLIT THEIR KIDS AMOUNGST 2 SCHOOLS FOR DIVERSITY REASONS: SOUTH MIAMI HIGH, CORAL GABLES HIGH AND NONE OF THEIR FOOTBALL TEAMS ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

OVERTOWN, LIL HAITI, AND LIBERTY CITY WHICH IS HIGH IN POPULATION SO DIVERSITY FOR SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS ISNT POSSIBLE. SPLIT AMONGST 6 SCHOOLS MIAMI JACKSON, BTW, MIAMI SPRINGS, MNW, MIAMI EDISON, AND MIAMI HIGH. MIAMI HIGH AND MIAMI SPRINGS FOOTBALL TEAMS ARE THE ONES THAT ARENT PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

OPALOCKA, MIAMI GARDENS AND CARROL CITY WHICH SERVICE 7 SCHOOLS MIAMI CENTRAL, HIELEAH HIGH, NORTH MIAMI, NORTHMIAMI BEACH, CARROL CITY, NORLAND, AND AMERICAN HIGH AND HIELEAH HIGH, AND AMERICAN ARENT PREDOMINANTLY BLACK.

THATS 10 SCHOOLS AND I'LL THROW IN HOMESTEAD EVEN THO THEY'RE SCHOOL ISNT MOSTLY BLACK SO THAT MAKES 11 OF THE 35-40 HIGHSCHOOLS IN MIAMI THAT FIELD A MOSTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM...

SO IF U CAN NAME ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT HAS A PREDOMINANLTY BLACK TEAM LET ME KNOW...
I KNOW THE DEMOGRAGHICS MAN, I'M FROM THERE, MY FRIENDS COACH THERE, MY MOM LIVES BUT I'M GOIN TO LET U TELL ME ABOUT THE PLACE I'M FROM AND GIVE ME MORE BLACK FOOTBALL TEAMS IN DADE...

Arent you the same cat that tried to say that BT Washington wasnt that good compared to the Dade Co. 6A's ?

I think I told you also.. Going down into Kendall and Homestead you start to get into more Latino schools.

The area between the Palmetto and Dolphin Hwys over almost too A1A all the way up to the Broward Co. line all the schools are just about 100% African American. The Hielah you can throw in some Cuban into the mix.

Again, the idea that a team that is 99% white can play with teams that are 100% African American is foreign to anyone and everyone in the Dade Co. area. The mear concept of it cant be digested there in Dade Co.

I lived there also for a few years and I'll be going back there this Fall for another couple of years.

Again, arent you the same dude that said BT Washington couldnt hang with many of the Dade Co. 6A's ?

[whs08]

^Nice!

[whs08]

txallday is off right now.:D

[Texasfrog]

FORSTON IS A MONSTER YOU WILL FIND OUT,UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL

Tommie Harris was a monster in Texas a few years ago. Going on to be an NFL 1st Round pick and All-Pro. He was on a HS team that had several D-1A kids also son.

They didnt even come close to winning the Texas State Title.;)

I just realized that Texas teams never play against talent. I guess that's why Rivals Top 100 has more Texas kids on it than Florida kids.:rolleyes:

[Texasfrog]

Cory Reeding was a monster for North Shore along with about 12 other D-1A Seniors and Juniors on that team. They were such great monsters that they didnt win the Texas State Title.

[nwbull]

Caps lock...c'mon..you can do it...take a deep breath and undo the caps lock....we're pulling for ya...c'mmmmonnnnn....

I LOVE THE CAPS,FREE COUNTRY

[whs08]

Cory Reeding was a monster for North Shore along with about 12 other D-1A Seniors and Juniors on that team. They were such great monsters that they didnt win the Texas State Title.

And now Cory is the highest paid DT in the NFL!

[Texasfrog]

And now Cory is the highest paid DT in the NFL!

Ya, but Cory Reeding and Tommie Harris dont have anything on Fortson.:D

[nwbull]

Arent you the same cat that tried to say that BT Washington wasnt that good compared to the Dade Co. 6A's ?

I think I told you also.. Going down into Kendall and Homestead you start to get into more Latino schools.

The area between the Palmetto and Dolphin Hwys over almost too A1A all the way up to the Broward Co. line all the schools are just about 100% African American. The Hielah you can throw in some Cuban into the mix.

Again, the idea that a team that is 99% white can play with teams that are 100% African American is foreign to anyone and everyone in the Dade Co. area. The mear concept of it cant be digested there in Dade Co.

I lived there also for a few years and I'll be going back there this Fall for another couple of years.

Again, arent you the same dude that said BT Washington couldnt hang with many of the Dade Co. 6A's ?

NOT TO GET INVOLVED BUT TXALLDAY IS CORRECT ABOUT RACIAL BACKGROUND OF EACH SCHOOL

[DrEdward]

I LOVE THE CAPS,FREE COUNTRY

Evidently, English teachers at MNW do not emphasize the appropriate use of catitialization in composition. Nor, it would seem, is punctuation and sentence structure a primary concern. :D But, he is correct, it is a free country and he does appear to love the use of capital letters.

[whs08]

NOT TO GET INVOLVED BUT TXALLDAY IS CORRECT ABOUT RACIAL BACKGROUND OF EACH SCHOOL

Yeah he is.

[whs08]

Evidently, English teachers at MNW do not emphasize the appropriate use of catitialization in composition. Nor, it would seem, is punctuation and sentence structure a primary concern. :D But, he is correct, it is a free country and he does appear to love the use of capital letters.
LOL, both nwbull and txallday have been using caps.:D

[TxAllDay]

Arent you the same cat that tried to say that BT Washington wasnt that good compared to the Dade Co. 6A's ?

I think I told you also.. Going down into Kendall and Homestead you start to get into more Latino schools.

The area between the Palmetto and Dolphin Hwys over almost too A1A all the way up to the Broward Co. line all the schools are just about 100% African American. The Hielah you can throw in some Cuban into the mix.

Again, the idea that a team that is 99% white can play with teams that are 100% African American is foreign to anyone and everyone in the Dade Co. area. The mear concept of it cant be digested there in Dade Co.

I lived there also for a few years and I'll be going back there this Fall for another couple of years.

Again, arent you the same dude that said BT Washington couldnt hang with many of the Dade Co. 6A's ?

YES I AM THE SAME DUDE... LOL
AND BEFORE LAST YEAR, CAN U SHOW ME WHEN BTW BEAT A DADE 6A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD???
THERES ONLY 2 AND THEY LOST THE OTHER 4 BEFORE LAST YEAR, AND I SHOWED U THAT...

NOW I ASKED U A QUESTION...
COULD U NAME ME ANOTHER PREDOMINANTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM IN MIAMI???
I GAVE U 11, GIVE ME A 12TH ONE...
I'M HERE BUDDY, JUST GET AT ME... LOL

THER ARE 29 6A TEAMS, ONLY 8 6A TEAMS ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK...
ALL 3 OF THE 4A TEAMS ARE BLACK...
THERES UR 11...
NONE OF THE TEAMS IN ANY OTHER CLASSIFICATION ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK....
GIVE ME 1 MORE...
THATS ALL I'M ASKIN U FOR...

U ARE GIVING THESE POSTERS MIS-INFORMATION JUST TO TRY TO PROVE UR POINT.

[Kingwolf]

I WANT ENTERTAIN THIS RACE THING THIS IS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL MNW IS AN ALL BLACK SCHOOL WE WANT THE TITLE THAT YOU HAVE IT'S ABOUT FOOTBALL NOT COLOR LET'S KEEP IT RESPECTFUL

my whole point is that you were talking about "gross disrespect," it did not start with SLC fans...it started with those I mentioned...I am just another Texan that has listened to the crap that is being said and will not take it sitting down...

those quotes were in regards to things we have heard...

[whs08]

um txallday can you try typing without all the caps?:D

[Texasfrog]

NOT TO GET INVOLVED BUT TXALLDAY IS CORRECT ABOUT RACIAL BACKGROUND OF EACH SCHOOL

Listen, I dont care about some chump teams in the Kendall area that dont even know what football is unless it's kicking some round ball.

The teams in Dade Co. that actually know what a football is are 100% African American and they are located mostly between the Palmetto and Dolphin Hwys up to the Broward Co. line.

What, Doral with all of their Columbians and Venzulens is a football power.:rolleyes:

The only school in the Kendal area that can even remotely play is Killians and their a fringe Kendal area team.

Coral Gables hasnt done anyting in HS football since I've been around. The only thing their known for is the Univ-Miami and some clubs down there.

I'll also go back to my original point. The idea that a team that is 99% white can play and compete with Miami-Dade teams that are (100% African American) is very foreign and the idea that those kids (white kids) can hang is totally foreign.

Since you and TxAllday are South Florida HS gurus. Name me one team in the Dade Co. area that is 100% White or even 90% white ?

[whs08]

um texas frog, txallday was born and raised in Miami! I think he knows a lot more about Dade county then you do!:cool: But yet again, I don't know of a 100% all white team in Dade, nor do I know much about Dade it self.

[Texasfrog]

YES I AM THE SAME DUDE... LOL
AND BEFORE LAST YEAR, CAN U SHOW ME WHEN BTW BEAT A DADE 6A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD???
THERES ONLY 2 AND THEY LOST THE OTHER 4 BEFORE LAST YEAR, AND I SHOWED U THAT...

NOW I ASKED U A QUESTION...
COULD U NAME ME ANOTHER PREDOMINANTLY BLACK FOOTBALL TEAM IN MIAMI???
I GAVE U 11, GIVE ME A 12TH ONE...
I'M HERE BUDDY, JUST GET AT ME... LOL

THER ARE 29 6A TEAMS, ONLY 8 6A TEAMS ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK...
ALL 3 OF THE 4A TEAMS ARE BLACK...
THERES UR 11...
NONE OF THE TEAMS IN ANY OTHER CLASSIFICATION ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK....
GIVE ME 1 MORE...
THATS ALL I'M ASKIN U FOR...

U ARE GIVING THESE POSTERS MIS-INFORMATION JUST TO TRY TO PROVE UR POINT.

I think the fact that you're trying to claim that BT Washington is some chump Miami-Dade team that cant compete with many of the Miami-Dade 6A's shows that you dont know Miami-Dade football that good.

BK Washington isnt good. Got it.:rolleyes:

[Texasfrog]

um texas frog, txallday was born and raised in Miami! I think he knows a lot more about Dade county then you do!:cool: But yet again, I don't know of a 100% all white team in Dade, nor do I know much about Dade it self.

He doesnt know Dade Co. football that good if he is trying to claim that BT Washington cant hang with and beat most of the Miami-Dade 6A's each year. The true fact is BT Washington almost every year is a top #3 Miami-Dade team no matter what class they are in.

Next.. there aint no 100% white teams in Miami-Dade. That's why the whole idea that a team with 100% white kids can play with and beat a team loaded with 100% african Americans is very foreign to people in Dade co.

[whs08]

He doesnt know Dade Co. football that good if he is trying to claim that BT Washington cant hang with and beat most of the Miami-Dade 6A's each year. The true fact is BT Washington almost every year is a top #3 Miami-Dade team no matter what class they are in.

Next.. there aint no 100% white teams in Miami-Dade. That's why the whole idea that a team with 100% white kids can play with and beat a team loaded with 100% african Americans is very foreign to people in Dade co.

Yeah I know. But this so hard to believe who telling the truth.:cool: :cool:

[TxAllDay]

Listen, I dont care about some chump teams in the Kendall area that dont even know what football is unless it's kicking some round ball.

The teams in Dade Co. that actually know what a football is are 100% African American and they are located mostly between the Palmetto and Dolphin Hwys up to the Broward Co. line.

What, Doral with all of their Columbians and Venzulens is a football power.:rolleyes:

The only school in the Kendal area that can even remotely play is Killians and their a fringe Kendal area team.

Coral Gables hasnt done anyting in HS football since I've been around. The only thing their known for is the Univ-Miami and some clubs down there.

I'll also go back to my original point. The idea that a team that is 99% white can play and compete with Miami-Dade teams that are (100% African American) is very foreign and the idea that those kids (white kids) can hang is totally foreign.

Since you and TxAllday are South Florida HS gurus. Name me one team in the Dade Co. area that is 100% White or even 90% white ?


look man, i aint tryin to go back and forth with u about stuff i know about, killian is smack dab in the middle of kendall by the way aint nuthin fringe about it...
i went there, i lived in kendall growin up. lol

but there are no all white schools because there are hardly any "white people" in miami now for me being a black guy, i say that anybody who is not black is white. i aint got time to split everybody else into categories but for the sake of this convo i'll say that every other school in miami including most of the private schools are mostly hispanic/latin...

maybe MAST academy and possibly Ransom Everglades is mostly "white" but those are the only schools in miami-dade county and MAST doesnt have a football team...

the city is like 55-60% cuban american... the "white" people that make up the population are mostly older citizens or transplants from the northeast of the united states...

so we usually see mostly hispanic schools except for the teams like mnw and cc because their districts are mostly black schools...

[TxAllDay]

He doesnt know Dade Co. football that good if he is trying to claim that BT Washington cant hang with and beat most of the Miami-Dade 6A's each year. The true fact is BT Washington almost every year is a top #3 Miami-Dade team no matter what class they are in.

Next.. there aint no 100% white teams in Miami-Dade. That's why the whole idea that a team with 100% white kids can play with and beat a team loaded with 100% african Americans is very foreign to people in Dade co.

dude last year, btw was amazing i'll give em that...
but the years before they were a decent team, not top 3 in dade...

they have never beaten miami northwestern ever...
they beat cc the last 2 years but cc had a losing record the last 2 years so that doesnt count for much...

i say their biggest win against a dade 6a team came last year against nmb which made it to the semi finals of 6a...

other than that...
they havent been beasting or beating top quality dade 6a teams...

[BDB]

why do FLA posters yell so much?

[Texasfrog]

dude last year, btw was amazing i'll give em that...
but the years before they were a decent team, not top 3 in dade...

they have never beaten miami northwestern ever...
they beat cc the last 2 years but cc had a losing record the last 2 years so that doesnt count for much...

i say their biggest win against a dade 6a team came last year against nmb which made it to the semi finals of 6a...

other than that...
they havent been beasting or beating top quality dade 6a teams...

Whatever.. BT Washington is and has been one of the top #3 Miami-Dade Co. teams over each of the past 5 years.

Name the freaking Dade co. 6A's that would of beaten them ? Last year the only Dade Co. team that might of beaten them was MNW and it would of been a pretty stiff game but MNW would of probably pulled it out in the 2nd half.

Your the same dude that was trying to say that Hollywood-Chaminade (2A) private school couldnt hang with many of the Dade Co. teams.

I lived about 10 minutes away from Hollywood-Chaminade for 3 years and I'll be going back there this Fall for probably another 2 or 3 years.

But, you trying to say that team like BTW and Chaminade would be chump pushovers the past 4 to 5 years against many of the Dade 6A's is very funny.

Also, let me put it to you like this. The teams in Dade Co. that can actually play football (American football) are just about all 100% African-American.

I've seen Killian play a couple of times in person and their football team is approx 75% African American.

Now, if you want to talk about Soccer for some of those other Kendall area schools or Doral area schools I'll give you that.

Every (American football) team that I've ever seen in Dade Co. play in person. Which is about 14 games. Those teams were right at 100% African-American and most of those games were playoff games.

Broward Co. is a little different but the only teams I've seen up there in person are Hollywood-Chaminade, American Heritage, Miramar High, STA and Plantation High.

Again, you trying to knock BTW and saying they cant beat this or that team is frankly a joke to me. They play who is on their schedule and they beat them 99% of the time. I leave it to the fact that many of the so called Miami-Dade gurus give BTW much respect more credit than what you try to say.

Last, and I'll say it again. The idea that a HS team that is 99% white can play with and compete with a Miami-Dade team that is 100% African American and loaded with several blue-chips is totally foreign to just about everyone in Dade Co.;)

[nwbull]

dude last year, btw was amazing i'll give em that...
but the years before they were a decent team, not top 3 in dade...

they have never beaten miami northwestern ever...
they beat cc the last 2 years but cc had a losing record the last 2 years so that doesnt count for much...

i say their biggest win against a dade 6a team came last year against nmb which made it to the semi finals of 6a...

other than that...
they havent been beasting or beating top quality dade 6a teams...

I MUST SAY YOU KNOW DADE COUNTY FOOTALL

[Texasfrog]

Ya, looking at Calpreps rankings of Florida from the past 3 seasons.

Here is the top Miami-Dade teams.

2006:

#2 Miami Northwestern
#13 BTW (2nd ranked Dade team)

2005:

#12 BTW (1st ranked Dade team).

2004:

#8 Pace
#9 BTW (2ns ranked Dade team).

Ya, that BTW team just sucks in Miami-Dade county.:rolleyes: ;) I dont know how come they get ranked so high (Top #2) each year in the Dade Co. area. TxAllDay keeps telling me they really suck in Dade Co.:rolleyes:

PS. I also think that BTW is like (8-0) against all the Miami-Dade Co. 6A teams they have played against in the last 4 years. But, TxAllDay keeps telling me they cant play with legit Dade 6A's. Oh well.

I guess the "FACT" that the only team besides Armwood to beat BTW in the past 4 years has been Hollywood-Chaminade (2A team) but he already told us that they suck.

[TxAllDay]

Whatever.. BT Washington is and has been one of the top #3 Miami-Dade Co. teams over each of the past 5 years.

Name the freaking Dade co. 6A's that would of beaten them ? Last year the only Dade Co. team that might of beaten them was MNW and it would of been a pretty stiff game but MNW would of probably pulled it out in the 2nd half.

Your the same dude that was trying to say that Hollywood-Chaminade (2A) private school couldnt hang with many of the Dade Co. teams.

I lived about 10 minutes away from Hollywood-Chaminade for 3 years and I'll be going back there this Fall for probably another 2 or 3 years.

But, you trying to say that team like BTW and Chaminade would be chump pushovers the past 4 to 5 years against many of the Dade 6A's is very funny.

Also, let me put it to you like this. The teams in Dade Co. that can actually play football (American football) are just about all 100% African-American.

I've seen Killian play a couple of times in person and their football team is approx 75% African American.

Now, if you want to talk about Soccer for some of those other Kendall area schools or Doral area schools I'll give you that.

Every (American football) team that I've ever seen in Dade Co. play in person. Which is about 14 games. Those teams were right at 100% African-American and most of those games were playoff games.

Broward Co. is a little different but the only teams I've seen up there in person are Hollywood-Chaminade, American Heritage, Miramar High, STA and Plantation High.

Again, you trying to knock BTW and saying they cant beat this or that team is frankly a joke to me. They play who is on their schedule and they beat them 99% of the time. I leave it to the fact that many of the so called Miami-Dade gurus give BTW much respect more credit than what you try to say.

Last, and I'll say it again. The idea that a HS team that is 99% white can play with and compete with a Miami-Dade team that is 100% African American and loaded with several blue-chips is totally foreign to just about everyone in Dade Co.;)

NW beat BTW 20-6 last year in fall kickoff classic in late August 20-6. Matter of fact 7 of NW starters didn't play including Easterling and Aldarius Johnson. Matter of fact BTW didn't even score on offense they scored on and int return for a TD. This is a HUGE rivalry in which both teams starters played late in 4th qtr. Would be a bigger rivalry than Central if they put NW-BTW game back in regular season. And the year before NW 40 BTW 27. Stop pulling BTW's Jock. By the way you do know BTW coach was NW's offensive coordinator before he got the job at BTW right?? BTW has NEVER beat NW.

[TxAllDay]

Forston has all the physical tools but his national reputation is not too good. Most scouts have serious reservations about his motor & desire. He will not be an over riding factor in this game.


Reread what you wrote. If scouts have such bad reservations about him then why is he one of the top 2 DT's in the country and a 5 star player when next rankings come out??? Why would UM, FL, FSU, ND, USC, LSU, Rutgers, Alabama, and a host of others D1 colleges be after him if his national reputation is bad??? How could you be one of the top players in the nation with no desire?? That does not make any sense?????? If that was the case I'm sure that there would be plenty more DT's that the colleges would have at the top of their list instead of Fortson. Wonder what he will have to say when he reads this LOL. After 9/15 I think you will have a different opinion about Mr Fortson. There's not too many DT's that can run down 4.4 qb's but he's one of them.

[TxAllDay]

Ya, looking at Calpreps rankings of Florida from the past 3 seasons.

Here is the top Miami-Dade teams.

2006:

#2 Miami Northwestern
#13 BTW (2nd ranked Dade team)

2005:

#12 BTW (1st ranked Dade team).

2004:

#8 Pace
#9 BTW (2ns ranked Dade team).

Ya, that BTW team just sucks in Miami-Dade county.:rolleyes: ;) I dont know how come they get ranked so high (Top #2) each year in the Dade Co. area. TxAllDay keeps telling me they really suck in Dade Co.:rolleyes:

PS. I also think that BTW is like (8-0) against all the Miami-Dade Co. 6A teams they have played against in the last 4 years. But, TxAllDay keeps telling me they cant play with legit Dade 6A's. Oh well.

I guess the "FACT" that the only team besides Armwood to beat BTW in the past 4 years has been Hollywood-Chaminade (2A team) but he already told us that they suck.

Why go back to 2004??? I guess thats because that's when they stop playing NW in regular season. In the last regular season game that NW-BTW played NW won 26-7 in 2003. Every single regular season and preseason game these 2 teams have played NW has won ALL of them. Therefore I can't see how they would be the best in dade county. Besides the last 2 yrs I can't see how you would argue they second best in dade. Yeas before that top 2 team in DADE was CC and Killian or CC and NW.

[syzygy]

Does anyone know how many Miami Northwestern fans are expected to show up?

[DrEdward]

Does anyone know how many Miami Northwestern fans are expected to show up?

So far it looks like one has committed on here, unless we count TxAllDay as a MNW fan as well, if he comes. :D I would assume a few hundred might make the trip, maybe a thousand or so. But this is pure speculation. The MNW fans will be able to see the game on the tube, so why go to the rather considerable expense of flying to Dallas to see a game, especailly if there are significant income constraints on the familes, as has been suggested elsewhere.

[SLC93]

I LOVE THIS BALL CONTROL EVERY GAME IS DIFFERENT ASK THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS. REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU MNW WILL WIN.

Did you even watch any of this squad's games last year? They do not play a ball control offense. You can control the clock with the spread but you have to utilize all the routes & your qb must be involved in the run game. MNW does not work the underneath stuff at all in the passing game & Jacory Harris is not much of a runner. Tell me again how that translates to ball control?

[SLC93]

FORSTON IS A MONSTER YOU WILL FIND OUT,UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL

Just reading you the book on him. I didn't write it.

[SLC93]

Reread what you wrote. If scouts have such bad reservations about him then why is he one of the top 2 DT's in the country and a 5 star player when next rankings come out??? Why would UM, FL, FSU, ND, USC, LSU, Rutgers, Alabama, and a host of others D1 colleges be after him if his national reputation is bad??? How could you be one of the top players in the nation with no desire?? That does not make any sense?????? If that was the case I'm sure that there would be plenty more DT's that the colleges would have at the top of their list instead of Fortson. Wonder what he will have to say when he reads this LOL. After 9/15 I think you will have a different opinion about Mr Fortson. There's not too many DT's that can run down 4.4 qb's but he's one of them.

It's because of his physical gifts that he has received all the attention he has. It's all about how a player projects to the next level, their potential to make an impact. With his gifts, he projects well but I have not read one report on the guy that hasn't questioned his motor. They all make note of him disappearing for lomg stretches & taking plays off. Most coaches think they can change those tendencies once they get a player in their system. I'm just reciting the book on him. I didn't write it & the fact is he'll be playing against a line that has 3 DI commits on it. They'll be no time to take a play off & if he disappears in this game it'll be over quick.

[SLC93]

Reread what you wrote. If scouts have such bad reservations about him then why is he one of the top 2 DT's in the country and a 5 star player when next rankings come out??? Why would UM, FL, FSU, ND, USC, LSU, Rutgers, Alabama, and a host of others D1 colleges be after him if his national reputation is bad??? How could you be one of the top players in the nation with no desire?? That does not make any sense?????? If that was the case I'm sure that there would be plenty more DT's that the colleges would have at the top of their list instead of Fortson. Wonder what he will have to say when he reads this LOL. After 9/15 I think you will have a different opinion about Mr Fortson. There's not too many DT's that can run down 4.4 qb's but he's one of them.

Also, I've seen national top 100 lists that do not list this young man. He's a talent, no doubt, but he's far from the second coming.

[TxAllDay]

Also, I've seen national top 100 lists that do not list this young man. He's a talent, no doubt, but he's far from the second coming.

You have no clue. And there will be more fans than you can expect at this game from Miami. Being all this negative stuff you go by on Fortson I take it you never seen him play. You will on 9/15. I guess the mighty o-line of SLC will keep him in check lol. Put it like this: He's faster than the Lb's from Westlake. You'll see little over a month and a half away.

[Southlakehawk]

Reread what you wrote. If scouts have such bad reservations about him then why is he one of the top 2 DT's in the country and a 5 star player when next rankings come out??? Why would UM, FL, FSU, ND, USC, LSU, Rutgers, Alabama, and a host of others D1 colleges be after him if his national reputation is bad??? How could you be one of the top players in the nation with no desire?? That does not make any sense?????? If that was the case I'm sure that there would be plenty more DT's that the colleges would have at the top of their list instead of Fortson. Wonder what he will have to say when he reads this LOL. After 9/15 I think you will have a different opinion about Mr Fortson. There's not too many DT's that can run down 4.4 qb's but he's one of them.

I love it when people throw out the magic 4.4 time.So Mr. Fortson with his 5.0 forty time can track down the 4.4 qbs? You'd be hard pressed to find a 290 pound NFL lineman who can run a 4.4. To catch a 4.4 guy you're gonna have to be faster/quicker than a 5.0 man I'd think. . Only skill people (wr, rb, db, maybe some qb's and lb's)in high school could run a 4.4.

According to Rivals, Mr. Fortson's forty time is listed as 5.0. I'm sure some of those Westlake lb's would like to run a 40 vs. Mr. Fortson.;)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51293&Sport=1

[SLC93]

You have no clue. And there will be more fans than you can expect at this game from Miami. Being all this negative stuff you go by on Fortson I take it you never seen him play. You will on 9/15. I guess the mighty o-line of SLC will keep him in check lol. Put it like this: He's faster than the Lb's from Westlake. You'll see little over a month and a half away.

Why the personal attack? I did not create any of what I stated. Just letting you know what has been put on the record by several scouts/scouting services. I have infact seen this squad play twice, the Central & Lake Brantley games from last season. I've stated my opinion, a few facts & nothing inflammatory. I said the kid was undeniably talented. I just don't believe he's the second coming, that's all. Get ahold of yourself. I never said that the Carroll line was "mighty" but it will be one of the better lines they've ever had & Fortson will be going up against a wall of scholarship players. Again, just stating facts there. In addition to the line he will face, he'll be going after a qb that lines up in the shotgun exclusively. Dodge won't be under center, he's extremely mobile & quite accurate throwing on the run. You boy will be working hard to get to RD. Can he do it? No question. Will he do it for 4 quarters? We'll see.:rolleyes:

[pied]

I'm just reciting the book on him. I didn't write it & the fact is he'll be playing against a line that has 3 DI commits on it.

I knew about Tre and Riley and thought I had heard another player committed. Obviously I missed at least one on the OL.

Who from SLC has committed to D1 schools so far?

[TxAllDay]

[/B]

I love it when people throw out the magic 4.4 time.So Mr. Fortson with his 5.0 forty time can track down the 4.4 qbs? You'd be hard pressed to find a 290 pound NFL lineman who can run a 4.4. To catch a 4.4 guy you're gonna have to be faster/quicker than a 5.0 man I'd think. . Only skill people (wr, rb, db, maybe some qb's and lb's)in high school could run a 4.4.

According to Rivals, Mr. Fortson's forty time is listed as 5.0. I'm sure some of those Westlake lb's would like to run a 40 vs. Mr. Fortson.;)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51293&Sport=1



Have you seen him play? I have seen with my own eyes Fortson run down a qb from back side and sack him. That QB ran a 4.4. I love the attention that you and everybody else on here give these "sorry" NW kids on here. LOL The only posts you find about and SLC players or TX teams for that matter is by you and your other Comrads that come on the FL board wanting a debate. NW fans don't care about SLC. They don't care about what college this one or that one got accepted to. All they are worried about is coming here doing what they have to do and go on with there season. You won't find a NW poster on main site starting a post about SLC. Why should they?? SLC is nothing to talk about. But NW appreciates all the attention this board is showing them good or bad. :-)

[SLC93]

[/B]

I love it when people throw out the magic 4.4 time.So Mr. Fortson with his 5.0 forty time can track down the 4.4 qbs? You'd be hard pressed to find a 290 pound NFL lineman who can run a 4.4. To catch a 4.4 guy you're gonna have to be faster/quicker than a 5.0 man I'd think. . Only skill people (wr, rb, db, maybe some qb's and lb's)in high school could run a 4.4.

According to Rivals, Mr. Fortson's forty time is listed as 5.0. I'm sure some of those Westlake lb's would like to run a 40 vs. Mr. Fortson.;)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=51293&Sport=1


Right. He has no idea what he's about to get started. Please let's not get into the validity of 40 times at the high school level. I've seen 20 page threads that have beat this topic to death. The kid is exceptionally quick & runs very well for a big guy but a 4.4? This isn't a video game.

[SLC93]

I knew about Tre and Riley and thought I had heard another player committed. Obviously I missed at least one on the OL.

Who from SLC has committed to D1 schools so far?

All three of the returning, senior starters.

[SLC93]

Have you seen him play? I have seen with my own eyes Fortson run down a qb from back side and sack him. That QB ran a 4.4. I love the attention that you and everybody else on here give these "sorry" NW kids on here. LOL The only posts you find about and SLC players or TX teams for that matter is by you and your other Comrads that come on the FL board wanting a debate. NW fans don't care about SLC. They don't care about what college this one or that one got accepted to. All they are worried about is coming here doing what they have to do and go on with there season. You won't find a NW poster on main site starting a post about SLC. Why should they?? SLC is nothing to talk about. But NW appreciates all the attention this board is showing them good or bad. :-)

Was that qb running at full speed in a straight line with nothing else on his mind or in his way? Did he see Fortson coming? Did Fortson have the angle? Just because you caught a 4.4 guy doesn't mean you run like a 4.4 guy. The rest of your post is too ridiculous to respond to.

[pied]

Thanks for the OL info.

Does that put them at six w/Cantu/RD/TN?

As far as Fortson, I can see where a much slower DT can track down a QB. You give me a running start vs. Jermey WAriner and I can catch him, and I can guarantee you he has a much better 40 time that myself.

Don't know what Fortson's time is and agree w/the validity of reported 40 times, but als think he is probably the most talented DT that OL is likely to face this year.

If I were picking positions to have as a strength for a defense facing SLC, DT would not be at the top of my list.

[TxAllDay]

Why the personal attack? I did not create any of what I stated. Just letting you know what has been put on the record by several scouts/scouting services. I have infact seen this squad play twice, the Central & Lake Brantley games from last season. I've stated my opinion, a few facts & nothing inflammatory. I said the kid was undeniably talented. I just don't believe he's the second coming, that's all. Get ahold of yourself. I never said that the Carroll line was "mighty" but it will be one of the better lines they've ever had & Fortson will be going up against a wall of scholarship players. Again, just stating facts there. In addition to the line he will face, he'll be going after a qb that lines up in the shotgun exclusively. Dodge won't be under center, he's extremely mobile & quite accurate throwing on the run. You boy will be working hard to get to RD. Can he do it? No question. Will he do it for 4 quarters? We'll see.:rolleyes:


That's the thing that's not the only d-lineman they have. Every d-lineman on their line demands a double team. So if he does not get to him someone else on that line will. And as far a his 40 time there is track speed and football speed. And since you saw the Central game I know there were times you saw that qb throw the ball away before Fortson sacked him. This is Forston closing in from like 7 yds away. And that QB went very mobile and is at a D1 college as well.

[SLC93]

Thanks for the OL info.

Does that put them at six w/Cantu/RD/TN?

As far as Fortson, I can see where a much slower DT can track down a QB. You give me a running start vs. Jermey WAriner and I can catch him, and I can guarantee you he has a much better 40 time that myself.

Don't know what Fortson's time is and agree w/the validity of reported 40 times, but als think he is probably the most talented DT that OL is likely to face this year.

If I were picking positions to have as a strength for a defense facing SLC, DT would not be at the top of my list.

I was drawing a blank earlier, pied. Leppo, Jackson & Schwartzstein are the ol names. Add Derek Tomlin to your list and they are currently at 7 DI commits. I think that they may end up with 8 or 9 by the time signing day rolls around.

[SLC93]

That's the thing that's not the only d-lineman they have. Every d-lineman on their line demands a double team. So if he does not get to him someone else on that line will. And as far a his 40 time there is track speed and football speed. And since you saw the Central game I know there were times you saw that qb throw the ball away before Fortson sacked him. This is Forston closing in from like 7 yds away. And that QB went very mobile and is at a D1 college as well.

If your entire front seven played with the intensity that Spence does from his lb position, I'd be more incline to agree with you. Of all the MNW players that are DI commits, he's probably the least gifted, physically, but is the most productive. MNW has got some amazing players & took care of business last year but so did Carroll. As much as you tend to think Carroll hasn't seen anything like MNW, ask yourself this. Is there any team, in all of Florida, that plays like Carroll does? Has MNW ever seen a team like Carroll? You can answer that with the correct "no" & still believe that Carroll is not the best team MNW has ever played. That part of the arguement doesn't interest me. I'm only concern with these two teams & how they match up.

[pied]

That's the thing that's not the only d-lineman they have. Every d-lineman on their line demands a double team. So if he does not get to him someone else on that line will. And as far a his 40 time there is track speed and football speed. And since you saw the Central game I know there were times you saw that qb throw the ball away before Fortson sacked him. This is Forston closing in from like 7 yds away. And that QB went very mobile and is at a D1 college as well.

Like I said before, if I were to pick a strength on a defense to stop SLC, DT would not be at the top of my list.

Unfortunately coaches do not have the luxury of doing that they play who is on their team(or can recruit to be, just kidding), and having Fortson should help.

I don't think SLC's scheme will involve too many double teams and the MNW line could get to RD a few time because of it.

I wuld bet the quick hit throws and runs by TN will cover for any QB pressure put up by the line.

[pied]

I was drawing a blank earlier, pied. Leppo, Jackson & Schwartzstein are the ol names. Add Derek Tomlin to your list and they are currently at 7 DI commits. I think that they may end up with 8 or 9 by the time signing day rolls around.

You are probably right. They should easily keep their title of most D1 recruits in the last five years in the state of Texas.

[pied]

As much as you tend to think Carroll hasn't seen anything like MNW, ask yourself this. Is there any team, in all of Florida, that plays like Carroll does? Has MNW ever seen a team like Carroll? You can answer that with the correct "no" & still believe that Carroll is not the best team MNW has ever played.

I think both teams will be facing something they have not seen before.

More interesting to me is that they will both be doing so with entirely new coaching staffs.

[SLC93]

Like I said before, if I were to pick a strength on a defense to stop SLC, DT would not be at the top of my list.

Unfortunately coaches do not have the luxury of doing that they play who is on their team(or can recruit to be, just kidding), and having Fortson should help.

I don't think SLC's scheme will involve too many double teams and the MNW line could get to RD a few time because of it.

I wuld bet the quick hit throws and runs by TN will cover for any QB pressure put up by the line.

Newton will have some serious gains on screens or dump plays designed to get the dline deep into the backfield well past the line of scrimmage.

[SLC93]

I think both teams will be facing something they have not seen before.

More interesting to me is that they will both be doing so with entirely new coaching staffs.

I agree to an extent. Carroll has seen athleticism before, maybe not as heralded as MNW but they've seen it. Name a team that plays like Carroll does that MNW has faced.

[TxAllDay]

If your entire front seven played with the intensity that Spence does from his lb position, I'd be more incline to agree with you. Of all the MNW players that are DI commits, he's probably the least gifted, physically, but is the most productive. MNW has got some amazing players & took care of business last year but so did Carroll. As much as you tend to think Carroll hasn't seen anything like MNW, ask yourself this. Is there any team, in all of Florida, that plays like Carroll does? Has MNW ever seen a team like Carroll? You can answer that with the correct "no" & still believe that Carroll is not the best team MNW has ever played. That part of the arguement doesn't interest me. I'm only concern with these two teams & how they match up.

Booker T. Washington every year in Kickoff classics since 2004. 2000-2003 they played in regular season. But the kickoff classics are treated more like a regular season game which the starters on both sides play the whole game and really tries to win that game. Being your concern seems like everyone else in here likes to throw around who they think NW reminds them of in TX. So, how do you feel SLC defense matches up with NW's offense?? 2 starters coming back on a defense that was already pretty bad on pass coverage seems like SLC has some work to do.

[Texasfrog]

Was that qb running at full speed in a straight line with nothing else on his mind or in his way? Did he see Fortson coming? Did Fortson have the angle? Just because you caught a 4.4 guy doesn't mean you run like a 4.4 guy. The rest of your post is too ridiculous to respond to.

Cant beat that South Florida speed baby. They have to replace their shoes after every series because they burn the soles off of the shoes.:D

[Texasfrog]

Booker T. Washington every year in Kickoff classics since 2004. 2000-2003 they played in regular season. But the kickoff classics are treated more like a regular season game which the starters on both sides play the whole game and really tries to win that game. Being your concern seems like everyone else in here likes to throw around who they think NW reminds them of in TX. So, how do you feel SLC defense matches up with NW's offense?? 2 starters coming back on a defense that was already pretty bad on pass coverage seems like SLC has some work to do.

"Ha-Ha", Please, Please, Please.. I've seen BTW like 3 times in person (playoff games) and they aint no SLC and not even close.

Yes, they run the spread offense but nothing like SLC does and BTW has "zero" running game in every game I've seen.

[Texasfrog]

I agree to an extent. Carroll has seen athleticism before, maybe not as heralded as MNW but they've seen it. Name a team that plays like Carroll does that MNW has faced.

"NONE !!";)

[Texasfrog]

NW beat BTW 20-6 last year in fall kickoff classic in late August 20-6. Matter of fact 7 of NW starters didn't play including Easterling and Aldarius Johnson. Matter of fact BTW didn't even score on offense they scored on and int return for a TD. This is a HUGE rivalry in which both teams starters played late in 4th qtr. Would be a bigger rivalry than Central if they put NW-BTW game back in regular season. And the year before NW 40 BTW 27. Stop pulling BTW's Jock. By the way you do know BTW coach was NW's offensive coordinator before he got the job at BTW right?? BTW has NEVER beat NW.

Kickoff classic, kickoff classic, kickoff classic.. So, MNW according to you beat BTW in some glorified scrimmage game before the start of the season and you're trying to tell me what exactly ?

Anyway, if MNW beat BTW by basically 14 pts than all it does is basically prove the point that MNW was the #1 team in Dade Co. and BTW was the #2 team in Dade Co. if you ask me.

Because no one else in Dade Co. could beat either one last year (MNW or BTW). They were #1 and #2 in the Dade Co. in 2006.

Also, didnt BTW get beat by Armwood in the playoffs.. "AGAIN ?"

The only difference between the two teams the last few years is that BTW is more annually a top #3 Dade Co. team.

[SLC93]

Booker T. Washington every year in Kickoff classics since 2004. 2000-2003 they played in regular season. But the kickoff classics are treated more like a regular season game which the starters on both sides play the whole game and really tries to win that game. Being your concern seems like everyone else in here likes to throw around who they think NW reminds them of in TX. So, how do you feel SLC defense matches up with NW's offense?? 2 starters coming back on a defense that was already pretty bad on pass coverage seems like SLC has some work to do.

The better question is what makes you think that an offense that is replacing four offensive lineman & a 3500 yard rusher is going to be ready to exploit this young defense? MNW may have the best qb/wr corp in the nation but will their line & run game gel quick enough to allow them to utilize those tools to their full potential? I can only assume your'e refering to the pass defense in the Westlake game last season? You need to go back to the tape. There's an ugly realization waiting for you there. Jacory Harris is a great kid & will be a great qb when his frame fills out & the coaches at Miami get a chance to work with him. As of this moment, however, he has neither the arm strength or the accuracy of Nick Foles. It's a byproduct of throwing all those jump balls to the big wr's. Trust me Carroll doesn't have any more questions to answer than MNW.

[rich_pack]

Slc-47
Mnw-27

[TxAllDay]

Kickoff classic, kickoff classic, kickoff classic.. So, MNW according to you beat BTW in some glorified scrimmage game before the start of the season and you're trying to tell me what exactly ?

Anyway, if MNW beat BTW by basically 14 pts than all it does is basically prove the point that MNW was the #1 team in Dade Co. and BTW was the #2 team in Dade Co. if you ask me.

Because no one else in Dade Co. could beat either one last year (MNW or BTW). They were #1 and #2 in the Dade Co. in 2006.

Also, didnt BTW get beat by Armwood in the playoffs.. "AGAIN ?"

The only difference between the two teams the last few years is that BTW is more annually a top #3 Dade Co. team.


All I have to say is I hope to see you on here after 9/15. Boy it would sure be nice for SLC to talk about there own players for a change. Why worry about another team that you are so much better than. They should not even be worth all of these threads. SLC 44 NW 21 right??

[TxAllDay]

The better question is what makes you think that an offense that is replacing four offensive lineman & a 3500 yard rusher is going to be ready to exploit this young defense? MNW may have the best qb/wr corp in the nation but will their line & run game gel quick enough to allow them to utilize those tools to their full potential? I can only assume your'e refering to the pass defense in the Westlake game last season? You need to go back to the tape. There's an ugly realization waiting for you there. Jacory Harris is a great kid & will be a great qb when his frame fills out & the coaches at Miami get a chance to work with him. As of this moment, however, he has neither the arm strength or the accuracy of Nick Foles. It's a byproduct of throwing all those jump balls to the big wr's. Trust me Carroll doesn't have any more questions to answer than MNW.


Come on SLC, if you had to go up against NW's defense all day everyday in practice then you have no choice to be better than your opponents. They will be fine. All they throw is jump balls?? LOL. I guess the corners routes in the state game are jump balls??

[pied]

All I have to say is I hope to see you on here after 9/15. Boy it would sure be nice for SLC to talk about there own players for a change. Why worry about another team that you are so much better than. They should not even be worth all of these threads. SLC 44 NW 21 right??


He'll be here, that's for certain and still know more about Dade Football than anyone in Dade regardless of the outcome.

It happened two years ago with the REL/Colerain game.

I love Cajun61's sig:

I'll tell you this. No way on God Green earth do I see Colerain running away with the game by 14 or 21 pts. No way, REL has to many skill athletes and is to sound of a team (coached). Especially if FS-T. Cuba is back patrolling the center of the field.

Note the final score 27-12.

[Texasfrog]

All I have to say is I hope to see you on here after 9/15. Boy it would sure be nice for SLC to talk about there own players for a change. Why worry about another team that you are so much better than. They should not even be worth all of these threads. SLC 44 NW 21 right??

Well, I've been on this site for right at 3 years and I'll be here after this game trust me.;)

Next, BTW isnt even close to SLC in overall chemistry or schemes on offense or defense. I've seen them play at least 3 times (IN PERSON WITH MY *** SITTING IN THE STANDS) and BTW doesnt have an offense like SLC.

BTW does run the spread and they also throw the ball like 80% of the time but they have zero running game or running threat and their O-Line isnt even close to being as schemed as SLC.

But, they do run a spread version on offense... "YES."

Next, I didnt say SLC-44, MNW-21. I said SLC 45, MNW-21.;) But, whose counting huh. I do think SLC wins the game and I think they will control the game and I also think the 2nd half will be dominated by SLC.;) "IMO."

Last, you trying to say that Forston is faster than the Austin Westlake "LB's" is pretty funny my man. Forston at best is a 4.9 kid. Those Austin Westlake LB's run anywhere from (4.7-4.8's) and I'm pretty sure Austin Westlake had some D-lineman that ran in the 4.9's range themselves.

Let me put it to you like this Mr. TxAllDay.. That Lake Brantley team that played against MNW in y'alls State Title game. They would of gotten their butts smoked by Austin Westlake.;)

[TxAllDay]

Kickoff classic, kickoff classic, kickoff classic.. So, MNW according to you beat BTW in some glorified scrimmage game before the start of the season and you're trying to tell me what exactly ?

Anyway, if MNW beat BTW by basically 14 pts than all it does is basically prove the point that MNW was the #1 team in Dade Co. and BTW was the #2 team in Dade Co. if you ask me.

Because no one else in Dade Co. could beat either one last year (MNW or BTW). They were #1 and #2 in the Dade Co. in 2006.

Also, didnt BTW get beat by Armwood in the playoffs.. "AGAIN ?"

The only difference between the two teams the last few years is that BTW is more annually a top #3 Dade Co. team.

No they didn't not get beat by Armwood last year. C'mon Frog your "all knowing" get it together. Let's not ASSume things.

[Sakatha]

Well, I've been on this site for right at 3 years and I'll be here after this game trust me.;)

Next, BTW isnt even close to SLC in overall chemistry or schemes on offense or defense. I've seen them play at least 3 times (IN PERSON WITH MY *** SITTING IN THE STANDS) and BTW doesnt have an offense like SLC.

BTW does run the spread and they also throw the ball like 80% of the time but they have zero running game or running threat and their O-Line isnt even close to being as schemed as SLC.

But, they do run a spread version on offense... "YES."

Next, I didnt say SLC-44, MNW-21. I said SLC 45, MNW-21.;) But, whose counting huh. I do think SLC wins the game and I think they will control the game and I also think the 2nd half will be dominated by SLC.;) "IMO."

Last, you trying to say that Forston is faster than the Austin Westlake "LB's" is pretty funny my man. Forston at best is a 4.9 kid. Those Austin Westlake LB's run anywhere from (4.7-4.8's) and I'm pretty sure Austin Westlake had some D-lineman that ran in the 4.9's range themselves.

Let me put it to you like this Mr. TxAllDay.. That Lake Brantley team that played against MNW in y'alls State Title game. They would of gotten their butts smoked by Austin Westlake.;)

I am getting so tired of the pictures of the MNC players being posted with something along of lines of 'we're coming for you... look out!' right beside them...

I guess SLC isn't going to play anybody with any talent at all this year. Hell, we might as well forfeit now to stave off embarassment...

You wanna know the real reason why(and some are too chicken S to admit it) we can't post pictures of OUR players 'coming to get you!'...

BECAUSE NOBODY FEARS THE WHITE KID LINEUP...

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

He'll be here, that's for certain and still know more about Dade Football than anyone in Dade regardless of the outcome.

It happened two years ago with the REL/Colerain game.

I love Cajun61's sig:



Note the final score 27-12.

And you'll still no nothing about Florida football after the game.;)

But, you really dont know much about Texas football either.:eek:

See after the game loser. I forgot, you saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game like 10 years ago your a Florida expert.:rolleyes: Plus, your totally objective too boot. "Ha-Ha."

[TxAllDay]

He'll be here, that's for certain and still know more about Dade Football than anyone in Dade regardless of the outcome.

It happened two years ago with the REL/Colerain game.

I love Cajun61's sig:



Note the final score 27-12.

What is your bias based on him knowing more about hs football than anyone in dade??

[pied]

What is your bias based on him knowing more about hs football than anyone in dade??

Just ask him.

[Texasfrog]

No they didn't not get beat by Armwood last year. C'mon Frog your "all knowing" get it together. Let's not ASSume things.

Well, considering that I spent most of last year all over the country and World I didnt keep up with BTW like I did when I lived there (2003-2005).

I do know that Armwood beat them twice in the playoffs and I saw them beat them once.

Who beat BTW last year in the playoffs ? Let me guess, some Dade Co. 6A team.:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

Come on SLC, if you had to go up against NW's defense all day everyday in practice then you have no choice to be better than your opponents. They will be fine. All they throw is jump balls?? LOL. I guess the corners routes in the state game are jump balls??

That's a fair conclusion. To be completely fair, you'll have to concede that I can say the same thing about the young Carroll D facing off against the best offense in the state every day. They will be fine.

[pied]

And you'll still no nothing about Florida football after the game.;)

But, you really dont know much about Texas football either.:eek:

See after the game loser. I forgot, you saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game like 10 years ago your a Florida expert.:rolleyes: Plus, your totally objective too boot. "Ha-Ha."

Never claimed to be an expert on anything. I would say I would be considered an expert speller compared to you.

[rancher52]

Well, considering that I spent most of last year all over the country and World I didnt keep up with BTW like I did when I lived there (2003-2005).

I do know that Armwood beat them twice in the playoffs and I saw them beat them once.

Who beat BTW last year in the playoffs ? Let me guess, some Dade Co. 6A team.:rolleyes:


Tampa Plant beat BTW in the State Semis of 4a last year

[TxAllDay]

Well, considering that I spent most of last year all over the country and World I didnt keep up with BTW like I did when I lived there (2003-2005).

I do know that Armwood beat them twice in the playoffs and I saw them beat them once.

Who beat BTW last year in the playoffs ? Let me guess, some Dade Co. 6A team.:rolleyes:


Why should I tell you??? Wait!!! Mr. All knowing is asking me about a playoff game in dade but Pied says he's all knowing. Funny that's coming from you. Let's just say the team beat both Armwood and BTW

[Texasfrog]

I am getting so tired of the pictures of the MNC players being posted with something along of lines of 'we're coming for you... look out!' right beside them...

I guess SLC isn't going to play anybody with any talent at all this year. Hell, we might as well forfeit now to stave off embarassment...

You wanna know the real reason why(and some are too chicken S to admit it) we can't post pictures of OUR players 'coming to get you!'...

BECAUSE NOBODY FEARS THE WHITE KID LINEUP...

~DnM

I know, I know.. SLC doesnt play againt talented teams. Heck, SLC has never played against teams that have D-1A (DL, LB, DB's, OL, RB, WR, QB's) on their team. This will be the first time SLC has ever seen this.:rolleyes:

[TxAllDay]

The better question is what makes you think that an offense that is replacing four offensive lineman & a 3500 yard rusher is going to be ready to exploit this young defense? MNW may have the best qb/wr corp in the nation but will their line & run game gel quick enough to allow them to utilize those tools to their full potential? I can only assume your'e refering to the pass defense in the Westlake game last season? You need to go back to the tape. There's an ugly realization waiting for you there. Jacory Harris is a great kid & will be a great qb when his frame fills out & the coaches at Miami get a chance to work with him. As of this moment, however, he has neither the arm strength or the accuracy of Nick Foles. It's a byproduct of throwing all those jump balls to the big wr's. Trust me Carroll doesn't have any more questions to answer than MNW.

Foles has a rocket arm .......... Jacorry has poise in pocket, makes good reads and decisions and puts the ball right where it needs to be. I don't think finishing 4th at the elite 11 he was just throwing jump balls to the receivers. Chase knows what Jacorry can do.

[Texasfrog]

Never claimed to be an expert on anything. I would say I would be considered an expert speller compared to you.

I'm glad you can spell. That's wonderful.;)

Next, I know you're a Florida HS expert because you saw the Rutherford vs Arlington Lamar game. You've told us that so you have to be a Florida expert because you say it. You say that your a Florida expert. I mean come on just ask you and you'll tell everyone we know that Piedy ole Master.:rolleyes:

You saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game so your a Master Expert.

Again loser, please go back and show me where I ever said or claimed to be a Florida HS so called Expert there little punk whoose.

I've always clearly said and stated that I've lived there (South Florida) for 3 years and in that time I went to many HS games and playoff games. I have seen the games in person and I've formed my opinion on what I've seen 'IN PERSON' during that time frame.

But, we know that your "Mr.Objective" because you saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game back in like 1997 at Walt Disney World.:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

I am getting so tired of the pictures of the MNC players being posted with something along of lines of 'we're coming for you... look out!' right beside them...

I guess SLC isn't going to play anybody with any talent at all this year. Hell, we might as well forfeit now to stave off embarassment...

You wanna know the real reason why(and some are too chicken S to admit it) we can't post pictures of OUR players 'coming to get you!'...

BECAUSE NOBODY FEARS THE WHITE KID LINEUP...

~DnM

:eek: :D ;)

[Texasfrog]

Tampa Plant beat BTW in the State Semis of 4a last year

Thanks, I would of looked it up but didnt feel like it. So, Plant who won the 4A Title in Florida and was regarded as one of the strongest team in Florida last year beat BTW in the playoffs.

The years before Armwood who was regarded as one of the strongest teams in Florida beat BTW in some hard fought games.

But, we all know that BTW is a so called weak Dade Co. team because TxAllDay says so and that the Dade Co. 6A teams would own them.:rolleyes:

I've got some Ocean front property in Arizona for sale also.:cool:

[SLC93]

Foles has a rocket arm .......... Jacorry has poise in pocket, makes good reads and decisions and puts the ball right where it needs to be. I don't think finishing 4th at the elite 11 he was just throwing jump balls to the receivers. Chase knows what Jacorry can do.

I agree with you about Jacory & his talent/potential. The only thing I'm pointing out is that he's going to have more adjustments to make this season as they are breaking in a new line & rb. That cushion he had last year will not be there, at least during the early part of the season.

[farmerfan]

In a way I hope September 15th never comes. As much as we complain about the off-season it really is funny at times.

[SLC93]

In a way I hope September 15th never comes. As much as we complain about the off-season it really is funny at times.

The word you're looking for is ridiculous.;) :D

[farmerfan]

The word you're looking for is ridiculous.;) :D

touche touche

[pied]

I'm glad you can spell. That's wonderful.;)

Next, I know you're a Florida HS expert because you saw the Rutherford vs Arlington Lamar game. You've told us that so you have to be a Florida expert because you say it. You say that your a Florida expert. I mean come on just ask you and you'll tell everyone we know that Piedy ole Master.:rolleyes:

You saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game so your a Master Expert.

Again loser, please go back and show me where I ever said or claimed to be a Florida HS so called Expert there little punk whoose.

I've always clearly said and stated that I've lived there (South Florida) for 3 years and in that time I went to many HS games and playoff games. I have seen the games in person and I've formed my opinion on what I've seen 'IN PERSON' during that time frame.

But, we know that your "Mr.Objective" because you saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game back in like 1997 at Walt Disney World.:rolleyes:

I would say I am a Master Expert on the 1998 Lamar Rutherford game in comparison to yourself. I feel very comfortable in making that statement.

I understand, and I think everyone understands that you have formed your opinions based on watching the games. The problem is that they tend to go against the people that live in FL, watch FL HS football and write about FL HS football.


By the way, did you call me a "little punk whoose"?

[Texasfrog]

Foles has a rocket arm .......... Jacorry has poise in pocket, makes good reads and decisions and puts the ball right where it needs to be. I don't think finishing 4th at the elite 11 he was just throwing jump balls to the receivers. Chase knows what Jacorry can do.

Ya, Nick Foles is really nothing but a rocket arm. That's why he went 187-284- 3,266 yds - 32 tds - 5 int's last year.

Your right. Foles has no poise and makes really bad reads and decisions.:rolleyes:

[Sakatha]

Harris couldn't hold CD's jock... Period...

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

I would say I am a Master Expert on the 1998 Lamar Rutherford game in comparison to yourself. I feel very comfortable in making that statement.

I understand, and I think everyone understands that you have formed your opinions based on watching the games. The problem is that they tend to go against the people that live in FL, watch FL HS football and write about FL HS football.


By the way, did you call me a "little punk whoose"?

No, no, no.. your a Florida HS football "Non-objective" expert because you saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game back in 1998.

Next, everything I say goes against what "EVERYONE" in Florida is saying huh. Wow, you know what everyone in Florida is saying. That's wonderful and great.

You know.. I'm the one that told you that there was many Florida 2A and 3A teams across the State of Florida that can compete with many of the Florida 5A's and 6A's. You basically told me that I didnt know what I was talking about. Well, I suggest you go look at some of the so called State polls from Florida. In fact I suggest you look at the Florida Top #20 teams almost every freaking year and you'll see that almost half if not more or lower division teams (3A and below). But hey, what do I know.:rolleyes:

Next, I hear someone like the so called Dade Co. "expert" try to say that Hollywood-Chaminade (2A Private school) couldnt compete against the Dade Co. 6A's teams. Well, he might know Dade Co. football but he doesnt know Broward Co. football because several of those Hollywood-Chaminade teams from the past 5 years would of owned just everyone in Dade Co. except maybe 2 or 3 teams "at most" in Dade Co.

I also think that over the last 5 years there has been a few Florida 3A's and even a couple of 2A's that could of challenged anyone in Florida for the #1's spot in Florida.

I would really like to see all these so called Florida HS expert gurus that you keep saying that I totally am 100% off base with.

Now, if your talking about some Dade Co. fans that totally disagree with me then I dont doubt that for one second. These are the same people that probably 95% of them have never seen "ONE DOWN" of a Texas HS football game either. What do they know of Tx HS football ? Southridge beat Dallas Carter like 10 years ago.. "that's what they know.":rolleyes:

Why do I call you a punk-whoose ? Because honestly that's what I think you are period. You and your girlfriend spend 75% of your time on here "spinning and twisting and basically LYING" about everything I say.

My only true regret is I cant look you right in the freaking "EYE's" and tell you that right to your freaking face. ;)

[TxAllDay]

Harris couldn't hold CD's jock... Period...

~DnM

The ignorant I tell you. Chase Daniels was one of the counselors at the elite 11 camp Jaccory attended. He was there through all the drills and etc that all the QB's had to do. He first hand saw some of the tools that Harris had as well as the other qb's that were there.

[Sakatha]

The ignorant I tell you. Chase Daniels was one of the counselors at the elite 11 camp Jaccory attended. He was there through all the drills and etc that all the QB's had to do. He first hand saw some of the tools that Harris had as well as the other qb's that were there.

And that means what to me? I know he was his counselor. I also know he's not the same QB. I also BELIEVE he won't be NEAR as effective in college. I also believe Harris has NO SHOT at the NFL. I am sure Chase saw a talented QB, and I am 100% sure that Chase probably gave him a ton of praise as Chase isn't a classless asshat.

~DnM

[SLC93]

Harris couldn't hold CD's jock... Period...

~DnM

:eek: True, though:D

[TxAllDay]

And that means what to me? I know he was his counselor. I also know he's not the same QB. I also BELIEVE he won't be NEAR as effective in college. I also believe Harris has NO SHOT at the NFL. I am sure Chase saw a talented QB, and I am 100% sure that Chase probably gave him a ton of praise as Chase isn't a classless asshat.

~DnM

What does that have to do wiht anything?? I was referring that since all these people are talking about Harris skills on here that a SLC alumn could tell you first hand if he just a QB with a Great supporting cast or is he really a legit QB??? All this about his jock and etc was not needed in this discussion. Speaking of NFL are you a scout??? How would you know? LOL I guess you feel Mr. Riley Dodge willl be an NFL all pro QB???

[SLC93]

And that means what to me? I know he was his counselor. I also know he's not the same QB. I also BELIEVE he won't be NEAR as effective in college. I also believe Harris has NO SHOT at the NFL. I am sure Chase saw a talented QB, and I am 100% sure that Chase probably gave him a ton of praise as Chase isn't a classless asshat.

~DnM

Sakatha, bringing you the unfiltered truth.:D

[Sakatha]

What does that have to do wiht anything?? I was referring that since all these people are talking about Harris skills on here that a SLC alumn could tell you first hand if he just a QB with a Great supporting cast or is he really a legit QB??? All this about his jock and etc was not needed in this discussion. Speaking of NFL are you a scout??? How would you know? LOL I guess you feel Mr. Riley Dodge willl be an NFL all pro QB???


I think Riley better hope he has his daddy's offensive mindset, and he wants to be a coach..

Anything else? Your arguments are tiring me.

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

And that means what to me? I know he was his counselor. I also know he's not the same QB. I also BELIEVE he won't be NEAR as effective in college. I also believe Harris has NO SHOT at the NFL. I am sure Chase saw a talented QB, and I am 100% sure that Chase probably gave him a ton of praise as Chase isn't a classless asshat.

~DnM

Reminds me of last season when Greg McElroy went with John Parker Wilson (Hoover) to watch he's younger brother QB at Hoover.

They interviewed McElroy after they game and he said, "They (Hoover) are a good football team."

Next thing you know all the Hoover people are screaming that Greg McElroy from SLC said that Hoover was better than SLC blah blah blah blah type of stuff.:rolleyes:

McElroy shows some class by giving praise to Hoover and people all the sudden think Hoover would be the most dominate team in Texas.

[Sakatha]

Reminds me of last season when Greg McElroy went with John Parker Wilson (Hoover) to watch he's younger brother QB at Hoover.

They interviewed McElroy after they game and he said, "They (Hoover) are a good football team."

Next thing you know all the Hoover people are screaming that Greg McElroy from SLC said that Hoover was better than SLC blah blah blah blah type of stuff.:rolleyes:

McElroy shows some class by giving praise to Hoover and people all the sudden think Hoover would be the most dominate team in Texas.

That couldn't be more accurate... Excellent example.

~DnM

[TxAllDay]

I think Riley better hope he has his daddy's offensive mindset, and he wants to be a coach..

Anything else? Your arguments are tiring me.

~DnM
Well don't reply if they are. Just glad NW is on you guys mind. That's all you guys talk about good or bad. Shows me there alot of respect for them whether you admit or not.

[Sakatha]

Well don't reply if they are. Just glad NW is on you guys mind. That's all you guys talk about good or bad. Shows me there alot of respect for them whether you admit or not.

Of course there is respect... I bet you can't find anywhere that I said they suck! They are flat LOADED. 'Probably' the most talented team SLC has ever faced.

Can they beat SLC? HELL YES THEY CAN.

I just choose to believe that SLC will win the day with more heart, more determination, and smarter play. Emphasis on the heart. Something that these other 'teams' of all-stars almost always lack.

~DnM

[pied]

You know.. I'm the one that told you that there was many Florida 2A and 3A teams across the State of Florida that can compete with many of the Florida 5A's and 6A's. You basically told me that I didnt know what I was talking about. Well, I suggest you go look at some of the so called State polls from Florida. In fact I suggest you look at the Florida Top #20 teams almost every freaking year and you'll see that almost half if not more or lower division teams (3A and below). But hey, what do I know.:rolleyes:

My only true regret is I cant look you right in the freaking "EYE's" and tell you that right to your freaking face. ;)

So is it almost half or like you said before almost 90% of the time?

Many times in Florida (90% of the time) the best teams are freaking 2A, 3A and in the lower classes.

It would help me to be right more often if I just changed what I said.....

If your only true regret is that you can't look me in the eyes and tell me about your thoughts on a message board, you have led a very good life in my opinion.

[Texasfrog]

Well don't reply if they are. Just glad NW is on you guys mind. That's all you guys talk about good or bad. Shows me there alot of respect for them whether you admit or not.

This whole attitude you have that everyone is disrespecting MNW is funny. I really dont think anyone on here has disrespected MNW except in your mind.:rolleyes:

I think everyone has said that MNW is a very "TALENTED" team that is loaded with legit National blue-chip prospects. No doubting that one bit.

I think your upset because nobody on here is just saying that MNW will dominate and push SLC off the field. It's probably because nobody on here (except a couple) feel that way. Almost everyone on here will tell you that SLC is going to win the game (this is a Texas site) and the predictions are anywhere from 1 pt difference to a freaking 30 pt difference.

I think SLC will win the game by about 21 pts (IMO). I have my opinion for several reasons. I'm sure you have your opinion on a possible outcome.

Honestly, I think you've done more on here to put down Texas HS football than anything. You've put down Austin Westlake LB's, DB's and basically made uneducated comments about Nick Foles as basically having just a strong arm but nothing more. I guess that's why he had offers from just about every BCS Conference and no telling how many different teams. My guess it was up in the 30+ range with offers.

I just dont see how you can claim that Harris is better than Nick Foles. Last years stats:

Nick Foles : 187-284- 3,266 yds - 32 tds - 5 int's
J. Harris : 194-285- 2,920 yds- 37 tds - 6 int's

Huge difference in those stats huh ? Take into account that Nick Foles is also about 6-5/230 and has an NFL QB body right now.;)

[TxAllDay]

This whole attitude you have that everyone is disrespecting MNW is funny. I really dont think anyone on here has disrespected MNW except in your mind.:rolleyes:

I think everyone has said that MNW is a very "TALENTED" team that is loaded with legit National blue-chip prospects. No doubting that one bit.

I think your upset because nobody on here is just saying that MNW will dominate and push SLC off the field. It's probably because nobody on here (except a couple) feel that way. Almost everyone on here will tell you that SLC is going to win the game (this is a Texas site) and the predictions are anywhere from 1 pt difference to a freaking 30 pt difference.

I think SLC will win the game by about 21 pts (IMO). I have my opinion for several reasons. I'm sure you have your opinion on a possible outcome.

Honestly, I think you've done more on here to put down Texas HS football than anything. You've put down Austin Westlake LB's, DB's and basically made uneducated comments about Nick Foles as basically having just a strong arm but nothing more. I guess that's why he had offers from just about every BCS Conference and no telling how many different teams. My guess it was up in the 30+ range with offers.

I just dont see how you can claim that Harris is better than Nick Foles. Last years stats:

Nick Foles : 187-284- 3,266 yds - 32 tds - 5 int's
J. Harris : 194-285- 2,920 yds- 37 tds - 6 int's

Huge difference in those stats huh ? Take into account that Nick Foles is also about 6-5/230 and has an NFL QB body right now.;)

Those crazy scores you and the others are predicting is disrespectful.

[TxAllDay]

Of course there is respect... I bet you can't find anywhere that I said they suck! They are flat LOADED. 'Probably' the most talented team SLC has ever faced.

Can they beat SLC? HELL YES THEY CAN.

I just choose to believe that SLC will win the day with more heart, more determination, and smarter play. Emphasis on the heart. Something that these other 'teams' of all-stars almost always lack.

~DnM


Bias statement. What example can you give of SLC having more heart than NW??? I think all that they have been through they are only gonna grow that much closer as a team.

[toddg]

Those crazy scores you and the others are predicting is disrespectful.

southlake 100
miami northwest 98

[Texasfrog]

;) So is it almost half or like you said before almost 90% of the time?



It would help me to be right more often if I just changed what I said.....

If your only true regret is that you can't look me in the eyes and tell me about your thoughts on a message board, you have led a very good life in my opinion.

Make sure you get it right Ole Piedy Master one that is the "Subjective God Master" on the board.

The Florida State HS Polls almost every year if you look at the Final Top #25 teams in the State will have many 2A, 3A & 4A teams in those Top #25 scattered among several 5A and 6A.

My point to you is and has always been there is a huge difference between Florida & Texas when it comes to the difference in caliber play among the divisions.

In Texas if you took the Final HS Top #25 almost every year it would be almost all 5A's and with just a very few 4A's in that Top #25.

In Florida is almost opposite.

Thus, 50% if not more of the teams in those Final Florida polls are 4A and lower many years.

Now, almost every year (90% of the time) there could be strong arguments made that the real #1 team in Florida is a 4A, 3A or 2A team.

Lakeland the past 10 years has laid claim they might be the #1 team in Florida each year and they are a (5A). But, Belle Glades, Pahokee, Bolles and few others in the 4A, 3A and 2A ranks could make a legit case they might be the real #1 team in Florida.

Again, I'm not 100% sure that MNW was the best team in Dade Co. last year and I'm also pretty sure that there was some 4A, 3A's and even 2A's teams in Florida last year (2006) that would of given that (2006) MNW team a strong run for the money.

I also think that last years Lakeland team would of beaten them. After watching both teams play on (DVD) from 2006. I have no doubt that Lakeland is Coached much, much, much better than MNW.;) In fact in the coaching department between Lakeland & MNW is almost "night & day."

[whs08]

Well, I've been on this site for right at 3 years and I'll be here after this game trust me.;)

Next, BTW isnt even close to SLC in overall chemistry or schemes on offense or defense. I've seen them play at least 3 times (IN PERSON WITH MY *** SITTING IN THE STANDS) and BTW doesnt have an offense like SLC.

BTW does run the spread and they also throw the ball like 80% of the time but they have zero running game or running threat and their O-Line isnt even close to being as schemed as SLC.

But, they do run a spread version on offense... "YES."

Next, I didnt say SLC-44, MNW-21. I said SLC 45, MNW-21.;) But, whose counting huh. I do think SLC wins the game and I think they will control the game and I also think the 2nd half will be dominated by SLC.;) "IMO."

lves.Last, you trying to say that Forston is faster than the Austin Westlake "LB's" is pretty funny my man. Forston at best is a 4.9 kid. Those Austin Westlake LB's run anywhere from (4.7-4.8's) and I'm pretty sure Austin Westlake had some D-lineman that ran in the 4.9's range themselves.

Let me put it to you like this Mr. TxAllDay.. That Lake Brantley team that played against MNW in y'alls State Title game. They would of gotten their butts smoked by Austin Westlake.;)

Some of the starting lbs , and DB's at Austin Westlake.

Michael(Mike) Joyce- TE/OLB-4.55
Mark Daniel-DT-6'1" 205
Ryan Swope-Rb/DB-4.41
Justin Tucker-K/DB-4.56
Thats all I could find, I'll try someone else though.

[Texasfrog]

Those crazy scores you and the others are predicting is disrespectful.

Why is disrespectful ? Because you say it is ? I dont think it's putting down MNW as much as you think. I do think SLC will beat MNW by at least 20+ points but I also think SLC will beat almost everyone they play in Texas by 35+ pts until they get into the playoffs and have to play a few tough dogs and even a couple of their playoff games against other Texas teams will probably be 20+ pt wins.

I also think MNW will go back to Dade Co. and blowout almost everyone they play against by 30+ points or much more.

If the game was being played in South Florida I would say that SLC wins by about 12 pts but since it's being played in Dallas,Tx I think they will win by 20+ pts.

[Sakatha]

Bias statement. What example can you give of SLC having more heart than NW??? I think all that they have been through they are only gonna grow that much closer as a team.

It's an opinion... Did you read where it said 'I BELIEVE'? I don't think I typed 'IT'S AN ABSOLUTE FACT THAT SL PLAYERS ARE BORN WITH MORE HEART THAN ANYONE ON EARTH!!!'

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

Some of the starting lbs , and DB's at Austin Westlake.

Michael(Mike) Joyce- TE/OLB-4.55
Mark Daniel-DT-6'1" 205
Ryan Swope-Rb/DB-4.41
Justin Tucker-K/DB-4.56
Thats all I could find, I'll try someone else though.

Ya, that's one of my points. TxAllday is trying to put down SLC by trying to claim Austin Westlake is some chump team with little talent, skill or speed.

I would say just the opposite almost. Last years Austin Westlake team had some pretty good talent (Several D-1A kids) and they were also pretty fast overall.

Put last years Austin Westlake team up against Lake Brantley and honestly I dont think it's much of a game. I think Westlakes & Lake Brantley defense were about "even" but Austin Westlake was a much much much better offensive team than Lake Brantley could even dream about.;)

Team speed (Austin Westlake & Lake Brantley).. about even overall.;)

So, anyone trying to knock SLC by running down Austin Westlake should honestly take a serious look at who MNW beat in the Florida 6A title game.:rolleyes:

[TxAllDay]

It's an opinion... Did you read where it said 'I BELIEVE'? I don't think I typed 'IT'S AN ABSOLUTE FACT THAT SL PLAYERS ARE BORN WITH MORE HEART THAN ANYONE ON EARTH!!!'

~DnM

How do you know other teams lack more??? Guess that's your opinion again. I think SLC is too slow for NW. OOPS!!!! Now they are going to crucify me for saying that

[pied]

Ya, that's one of my points. TxAllday is trying to put down SLC by trying to claim Austin Westlake is some chump team with little talent, skill or speed.


Talk about spin........

[Texasfrog]

Talk about spin........

I dont think it's spin at all Son. He has basically put down Nick Foles and has said that the Austin Westlake LB's are slow compared to MNW DT-Fortson.:rolleyes:

In fact I seriously doubt there is one Westlake LB's that Forston would outfun for 40 yards.;)

But, you go ahead and do your best "spinning, twisting and LYING.":rolleyes:

My Name is Pied and I'm the Florida HS football expert because I saw the Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford game at Walt Disney World.:rolleyes:

[GBMonster76]

MNW will be the most talented team SLC has ever seen whether they admit it or not, it's the truth.

Still, here it is again...

SLC 31
MNW 21


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[Sakatha]

How do you know other teams lack more??? Guess that's your opinion again. I think SLC is too slow for NW. OOPS!!!! Now they are going to crucify me for saying that

You are failing reading comprehenshion terribly...

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

MNW will be the most talented team SLC has ever seen whether they admit it or not, it's the truth.

Still, here it is again...

SLC 31
MNW 21


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GBM, I think your missing the point about the whole talent thing. I dont anyone on here has debated that MNW will be the most (Talented team) when it comes to so called Blue-chip prospects.

But, when it comes to Size, speed, Depth along with some very good talent. Then it wont be anything that SLC hasnt seen many times over the years.

Some of those Lufkin teams that SLC played against had great size, talent and speed on both the defense and offense.

I'll also add that last years ET team has more size, depth and just as much team speed that MNW has.

[Sakatha]

Here is a weird observation...

I would've been more comfortable taking last year's ET squad over this year's MNW squad than this year's SLC squad over this year's MNW squad...

Doesn't mean I think SLC will lose.

Just means I think ET would've beaten them into submission, and ET's D last year was plenty fast and physical enough to stop MNW.

~DnM

[DragonFan]

MNW will be the most talented team SLC has ever seen whether they admit it or not, it's the truth.

Still, here it is again...

SLC 31
MNW 21




The resume of the MNW team is impressive but is it the best of all the teams that SLC has faced? Lufkin has always had great raw talent. Denton Ryan during its brief stay in 5A had great talent. Katy 2002 had great talent and team play. Arlington Sam Houston had an absurb amount of talent, Smithson Valley had some of the best players and great chemistry, Abilene has had some extreamly talented teams as well as Allen.

Is MNW the best collection of raw talent that SLC has ever faced? Maybe, is MNW the best team SLC has ever faced? I doubt it. Will it be a great game? I am going so I am betting on it.

[GBMonster76]

Probably true. We'll see.


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[supercentex]

There are going to be so many factors is this game that will make it appealing.

MNW having more athletes/speed
New Coaches
Both are playing each other early in the season
SLC defense being new
Game is in Texas

......

[whs08]

Ya, that's one of my points. TxAllday is trying to put down SLC by trying to claim Austin Westlake is some chump team with little talent, skill or speed.

I would say just the opposite almost. Last years Austin Westlake team had some pretty good talent (Several D-1A kids) and they were also pretty fast overall.

Put last years Austin Westlake team up against Lake Brantley and honestly I dont think it's much of a game. I think Westlakes & Lake Brantley defense were about "even" but Austin Westlake was a much much much better offensive team than Lake Brantley could even dream about.;)

Team speed (Austin Westlake & Lake Brantley).. about even overall.;)

So, anyone trying to knock SLC by running down Austin Westlake should honestly take a serious look at who MNW beat in the Florida 6A title game.:rolleyes:

Txallday is very wrong on that, we ar'nt no chump team!And yes are offense was supreme,and fast.

[Texasfrog]

Here is a weird observation...

I would've been more comfortable taking last year's ET squad over this year's MNW squad than this year's SLC squad over this year's MNW squad...

Doesn't mean I think SLC will lose.

Just means I think ET would've beaten them into submission, and ET's D last year was plenty fast and physical enough to stop MNW.

~DnM

Last years ET team was very big and physical. The ET defense was very well coached and anyone that doesnt think that ET defense wasnt big or fast is totally insane.

Plus, the ET offensive line might be the best offensive line I've ever seen on the High school level when you look at their size, skill and team chemistry.

[Sakatha]

Last years ET team was very big and physical. The ET defense was very well coached and anyone that doesnt think that ET defense wasnt big or fast is totally insane.

Plus, the ET offensive line might be the best offensive line I've ever seen on the High school level when you look at their size, skill and team chemistry.

Which makes the job that the Dragon D did, minus one huge run, that much more impressive...

~DnM

[pied]

The resume of the MNW team is impressive but is it the best of all the teams that SLC has faced? Lufkin has always had great raw talent. Denton Ryan during its brief stay in 5A had great talent. Katy 2002 had great talent and team play. Arlington Sam Houston had an absurb amount of talent, Smithson Valley had some of the best players and great chemistry, Abilene has had some extreamly talented teams as well as Allen.

Is MNW the best collection of raw talent that SLC has ever faced? Maybe, is MNW the best team SLC has ever faced? I doubt it. Will it be a great game? I am going so I am betting on it.

To me, it isn't the overall talent, it is what the talent is.

Many people, myself included are not sold that the Carroll secondary will be great, much less up and ready the second game of the season. I do realize that some have the opinion that they are good to go now.

In any case, Harris is at tthe very least a productive passer. Some may say being offered as a QB by Miami, and finishing fourth in the Elite 11 would rank him very high.

In addition the primary receivers are not only very highly ranked, they are tall as well.

I know some dismiss those guys as an All-Star group and do not have heart or chemistry. I don't see that personally. My experience tells me that teams that win championships and set offensive records for passing, typically play pretty well together.

Add that up and combine it with the "potential" weakness, and I do not see real similarities between thsi situation early in the season and playing the teams you mentioned after 10-15 games.

[farmerfan]

Foles has a rocket arm .......... Jacorry has poise in pocket, makes good reads and decisions and puts the ball right where it needs to be. I don't think finishing 4th at the elite 11 he was just throwing jump balls to the receivers. Chase knows what Jacorry can do.

Thats the only comment I have seen from TxAllDay concerning Foles. If there was another one will someone please direct me where. That said, how in the hell is that saying that Foles was a bad QB? Holy Hell some people get overly sensitive when others talk about our Texas players.

[Texasfrog]

To me, it isn't the overall talent, it is what the talent is.

Many people, myself included are not sold that the Carroll secondary will be great, much less up and ready the second game of the season. I do realize that some have the opinion that they are good to go now.

In any case, Harris is at tthe very least a productive passer. Some may say being offered as a QB by Miami, and finishing fourth in the Elite 11 would rank him very high.

In addition the primary receivers are not only very highly ranked, they are tall as well.

I know some dismiss those guys as an All-Star group and do not have heart or chemistry. I don't see that personally. My experience tells me that teams that win championships and set offensive records for passing, typically play pretty well together.

Add that up and combine it with the "potential" weakness, and I do not see real similarities between thsi situation early in the season and playing the teams you mentioned after 10-15 games.

Ya, and the fact that MNW has to replace their entire secondary and half of their D-line means nothing when they have to play against what might be the best offensive team in America (SLC).

I guess MNW is expected to get some blue-chip transfer (DB's) to fill that void.;)

[toddg]

Last years ET team was very big and physical. The ET defense was very well coached and anyone that doesnt think that ET defense wasnt big or fast is totally insane.

Plus, the ET offensive line might be the best offensive line I've ever seen on the High school level when you look at their size, skill and team chemistry.

the westlake O-line the first half of the championship game.. was the best off. line execution i saw last year from any team...i bet padron, russo, and saldie would agree.

[pied]

Thats the only comment I have seen from TxAllDay concerning Foles. If there was another one will someone please direct me where. That said, how in the hell is that saying that Foles was a bad QB? Holy Hell some people get overly sensitive when others talk about our Texas players.

He also made this comment in regards to Fortson:

Put it like this: He's faster than the Lb's from Westlake.

Those two statements equal:

Austin Westlake is some chump team with little talent, skill or speed.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

nm.

[Texasfrog]

Which makes the job that the Dragon D did, minus one huge run, that much more impressive...

~DnM

Ya, and I'll still say that if Wr-Marcus King (ET & North Tx) played for a team like SLC or some other strong spread passing team he would of been at least a (4-Star) National blue-chip prospect.

I still think he is the biggest sleeper prosepct that Coach Dodge got this year at North Texas.;)

[farmerfan]

He also made this comment in regards to Fortson:



Those two statements equal:

and yet someone accuses others of "spinning". i have a feeling we got ourselves a person who does not know what spinning means.

[Sakatha]

Ya, and I'll still say that if Wr-Marcus King (ET & North Tx) played for a team like SLC or some other strong spread passing team he would of been at least a (4-Star) National blue-chip prospect.

I still think he is the biggest sleeper prosepct that Coach Dodge got this year at North Texas.;)

I would tend to agree.

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

Last years ET team was very big and physical. The ET defense was very well coached and anyone that doesnt think that ET defense wasnt big or fast is totally insane.

Plus, the ET offensive line might be the best offensive line I've ever seen on the High school level when you look at their size, skill and team chemistry.

the westlake O-line the first half of the championship game.. was the best off. line execution i saw last year from any team...i bet padron, russo, and saldie would agree.

Westlake has a very well coached O-line. I would of liked to of seen them with a healthy team. I think they had at least 3 starting O-lineman out for the State Title game (including Nadar).

Some of the Smithson Valley O-lines that I've seen over the years were also very damn good. Katy goes without question when it comes to big strong O-lines.

[pied]

Ya, and the fact that MNW has to replace their entire secondary and half of their D-line means nothing when they have to play against what might be the best offensive team in America (SLC).

I guess MNW is expected to get some blue-chip transfer (DB's) to fill that void.;)

I agree, MNW will have their hands full on D as well.

If I only have half my D Line coming back I guess I'd rather have one ranked in the top 30 in the nation and the other returning is in the top 40 of the state.

Who will be transferring in for the secondary?

[Texasfrog]

I agree, MNW will have their hands full on D as well.

If I only have half my D Line coming back I guess I'd rather have one ranked in the top 30 in the nation and the other returning is in the top 40 of the state.

Who will be transferring in for the secondary?

Well, I guess I just got you wrong then Ole Piedy the "Objective Master" of HS football.

You just seem to always explain on here how SLC will have all these issues slowing down MNW offense because SLC has only 2 defensive starters coming back.

But, I dont ever see you explain how MNW will have issues slowing down SLC because MNW has many new holes on their defense they must replace (like an entirely new secondary) which can mean big trouble going against a spread passing team like SLC. On top of the fact that MNW "NEVER" really see's a spread offense either.

As far as some transfers DB's coming into MNW. I dont know of any but I damn sure wouldnt doubt it either. In fact I'll be real interested to compare this years roster to last years roster and see just how many new Senior transfers are on it. My early money is there is probably 7 to 10 transfers into MNW that werent there last year.;)

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Who will be transferring in for the secondary?

I know you were probably being sarcastic, but Corvin Lamb (transfer from St. Thomas Aquinas, freak athlete) has already transferred and will likely see time at DB, and the latest rumor (emphasis there... RUMOR) is that Jordan Futch, a Rivals 100 prospect, might be transferring in from Chaminade Madonna and playing safety. Add that to a few solid kids who were already there (Keith Richburg, Steve Gallon) and all of a sudden something that was a supposed weakness has been addressed via a talent infusion and you have arguably the most talented defensive backfield in the country. We'll see what happens with Futch... right now it's just message board banter.

[pied]

Well, I guess I just got you wrong then Ole Piedy the "Objective Master" of HS football.

You just seem to always explain on here how SLC will have all these issues slowing down MNW offense because SLC has only 2 defensive starters coming back.

I have stated several times I expect SLC to set offensive records and should be considered one of the best ever in the state of Texas. I have also stated many times, I do not see the Dragons being held to any less than 28 points even MNW.

I think you have focused on the the other parts of my posts.

[pied]

I know you were probably being sarcastic, but Corvin Lamb (transfer from St. Thomas Aquinas, freak athlete) has already transferred and will likely see time at DB, and the latest rumor (emphasis there... RUMOR) is that Jordan Futch, a Rivals 100 prospect, might be transferring in from Chaminade Madonna and playing safety. Add that to a few solid kids who were already there (Keith Richburg, Steve Gallon) and all of a sudden something that was a supposed weakness has been addressed via a talent infusion and you have arguably the most talented defensive backfield in the country. We'll see what happens with Futch... right now it's just message board banter.

For the most part the FL posters have seemed to indicate that Futch wuld not be able to transfer. He has already participated in summer workouts whatever that means and woudl have to sit out a year.

I have seen crazier things though.

[Texasfrog]

For the most part the FL posters have seemed to indicate that Futch wuld not be able to transfer. He has already participated in summer workouts whatever that means and woudl have to sit out a year.

I have seen crazier things though.

Player transfer rules in Florida are about as legit as the Sun will be rise tomorrow the color Blue.

Basically they dont exist except on paper maybe. Enforcement is another issue.;)

[SLC93]

How do you know other teams lack more??? Guess that's your opinion again. I think SLC is too slow for NW. OOPS!!!! Now they are going to crucify me for saying that

Ignorance is bliss but, seriously, you need to get a clue.

[SLC93]

Player transfer rules in Florida are about as legit as the Sun will be rise tomorrow the color Blue.

Basically they dont exist except on paper maybe. Enforcement is another issue.;)

True but the way I understand it is that at this date any player transfer would go directly to the executive committee of the FHSAA for review. Unanimous approval is required by that board for a player to be allowed to transfer without losing a season of eligibility. Again, given the publicity MNW has drawn this summer I have a difficult time envisioning anything other than a true emergency being approved.

[supercentex]

For the most part the FL posters have seemed to indicate that Futch wuld not be able to transfer. He has already participated in summer workouts whatever that means and woudl have to sit out a year.

I have seen crazier things though.

From what i'm hearing now that MNW offers a magnet program...and, that is his key to the castle.

I think it's a damn shame they are allowed to bounce anywhere they want. You would think the other schools in Florida across the state in 6-A would be outraged and put up a fight!

[SLC93]

From what i'm hearing now that MNW offers a magnet program...and, that is his key to the castle.

I think it's a damn shame they are allowed to bounce anywhere they want. You would think the other schools in Florida across the state in 6-A would be outraged and put up a fight!

Tell me how an F rated is school is a magnet for anything other than failure.:rolleyes: Pathetic.:puke

[Texasfrog]

True but the way I understand it is that at this date any player transfer would go directly to the executive committee of the FHSAA for review. Unanimous approval is required by that board for a player to be allowed to transfer without losing a season of eligibility. Again, given the publicity MNW has drawn this summer I have a difficult time envisioning anything other than a true emergency being approved.

Ya, I agree some. But, Futch has been going to a Private school (Hollywood Chaminade) and if he now decides that he wants to go to MNW. I dont see the FHSAA slowing him down.

I wouldnt doubt that Futch ends up at MNW. All these kids have been going to summer camps together and talking it up with each other. I'm sure Futch has been told about 1,000X over that he should come to MNW and be with all the other Univ-Miami commits.

We'll see what happens but my early money is on Futch showing up in Dallas wearing a MNW uniform.

Like I said, Florida has rules on paper. Enforcement of those rules is a totally different beast and the FHSAA aint the Texas UIL by a very very very long shot.

[Texasfrog]

Tell me how an F rated is school is a magnet for anything other than failure.:rolleyes: Pathetic.:puke

Ya, it's called athletics..;) All these Esterling stuff was all smoke screen stuff. Nothing will really change much. It's all about athletics at MNW and if anyone says anything else they are a complete fool and idiot.;)

SuperCen is right on also. The word "Magnet" is the key to the car and opens the door for athletes to come into the program.

Long Beach Poly is the same way out in California. It's an athletic Magnet Program so kids that get identified with special athletic gifts basically get the door opened to them.

[supercentex]

I hope that it is made known on ESPN during the game how many of those players from MNW were transfers.

I also hope the whole situation regarding Easterling and the administration is also all over television during the game.

I had hoped that SLC would find another team to play...... MNW does not deserve any kind of exposure until things are changed. They don't deserve it in my opinion.

[TxAllDay]

He also made this comment in regards to Fortson:



Those two statements equal:


What does that have to do with Westlake QB??? I said he has a arm. Was there a law that says I have to say more about him. Truth be told I like him he's decent. But because I didn't originally say that that means I don't like him. LOL! Some people on here ASSume way too much.

[pied]

What does that have to do with Westlake QB??? I said he has a arm. Was there a law that says I have to say more about him. Truth be told I like him he's decent. But because I didn't originally say that that means I don't like him. LOL! Some people on here ASSume way too much.

I think you need to rad more slowly. You may want to pay attention to Texasfrog's posts to me.

[TxAllDay]

Thats the only comment I have seen from TxAllDay concerning Foles. If there was another one will someone please direct me where. That said, how in the hell is that saying that Foles was a bad QB? Holy Hell some people get overly sensitive when others talk about our Texas players.




Again pied what does Foley have to do with what I said about Forston?? You need to reread what farmer wrote above.

[TxAllDay]

I hope that it is made known on ESPN during the game how many of those players from MNW were transfers.

I also hope the whole situation regarding Easterling and the administration is also all over television during the game.

I had hoped that SLC would find another team to play...... MNW does not deserve any kind of exposure until things are changed. They don't deserve it in my opinion.

Well it won't be sorry.

[whs08]

What does that have to do with Westlake QB??? I said he has a arm. Was there a law that says I have to say more about him. Truth be told I like him he's decent. But because I didn't originally say that that means I don't like him. LOL! Some people on here ASSume way too much.

Correction former Westlake Qb. His name is Nick Foles.He beat Drew Brees all time passing record at Westlake. Just to clarify things with you.

[toddg]

I think you need to rad more slowly. You may want to pay attention to Texasfrog's posts to me.

hey pied..who does lancer pick in this game..or does he really give a %##@?