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Texasfrog
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
pFoles has a rocket arm .......... Jacorry has poise in pocket, makes good reads and decisions and uts the ball right where it needs to be. I don't think finishing 4th at the elite 11 he was just throwing jump balls to the receivers. Chase knows what Jacorry can do.
Let's see, this is what you said. Sounds to me like you trying to infer that Nick Foles has a strong arm but lacks things like poise, good reads, decision making and accuracy but Jacory Harris has those things.
I think Nick Foles does have a rocket arm but he also has all those other things also along with an NFL size QB body (6-5/230) range.
Like I said, the passing stats from last year dont lie do they ?
Nick Foles: 187-284- 3,266 yd - 32 tds - 5int (66%)
J. Harris : 194-285- 2,920 yd- 37 tds - 6 int (68%)
I really dont see much of a difference except that Nick Foles has a NFL QB body and a Hell of alot stronger arm.;)
Maybe J. Harris was just playing against all those legit stiff South Florida defensives so he's passing stats are much more legit.:rolleyes:
TxAllDay
07-30-2007, 10:21 PM
Let's see, this is what you said. Sounds to me like you trying to infer that Nick Foles has a strong arm but lacks things like poise, good reads, decision making and accuracy but Jacory Harris has those things.
I think Nick Foles does have a rocket arm but he also has all those other things also along with an NFL size QB body (6-5/230) range.
Like I said, the passing stats from last year dont lie do they ?
Nick Foles: 187-284- 3,266 yd - 32 tds - 5int (66%)
J. Harris : 194-285- 2,920 yd- 37 tds - 6 int (68%)
I really dont see much of a difference except that Nick Foles has a NFL QB body and a Hell of alot stronger arm.;)
Maybe J. Harris was just playing against all those legit stiff South Florida defensives so he's passing stats are much more legit.:rolleyes:
If I didn't say it don't assume anything.
whs08
07-30-2007, 10:38 PM
If I didn't say it don't assume anything.
But ,you did!
Sakatha
07-30-2007, 10:39 PM
If I didn't say it don't assume anything.
TxAllDay... Interesting name... So w/40 posts or so under your belt, you've really proven to be MNWAllDay. Petition for a name change maybe?
~DnM
TxAllDay... Interesting name... So w/40 posts or so under your belt, you've really proven to be MNWAllDay. Petition for a name change maybe?
~DnM
noobALLDay?
Texasfrog
07-30-2007, 11:14 PM
If I didn't say it don't assume anything.
So are you saying that now. I mean you left it out earlier.
Nick Foles has a rocket arm but J. Harris has poise, accuracy and makes good reads.
Like I said, the stats dont like between the two and they are very very similiar overall.
But, I'm sure J. Harris are far more legit because he played against those super tough and "FAST" South Florida HS defensives right ?:rolleyes:
Texasfrog
07-30-2007, 11:24 PM
If I didn't say it don't assume anything.
Also, you saying that Forston can outrun the Austin Westlake LB's is pretty stupid also.
I would say stick to something you know like the demographics of the schools in Dade Co.;) :rolleyes:
Because you dont know much about Austin Westlake or SLC as far as that goes.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 07:09 AM
noobALLDay?
Not bad...
~DnM
ScottS
07-31-2007, 08:39 AM
So is MNW going to get Futch?
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 09:03 AM
So is MNW going to get Futch?
I think that story was mis-read and mis-reported...
~DnM
SLC93
07-31-2007, 09:38 AM
So is MNW going to get Futch?
No
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 09:48 AM
Finally the Futch Rumor ends and NW has had a medical magnet program there for over the last 10 yrs. That is nothing that has just been put in place.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 09:51 AM
Finally the Futch Rumor ends and NW has had a medical magnet program there for over the last 10 yrs. That is nothing that has just been put in place.
For gunshot wounds?
~DnM
SLC93
07-31-2007, 09:54 AM
For gunshot wounds?
~DnM
That's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong!;) :D
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:01 AM
That's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong!;) :D
You laughed, don't lie... :)
~DnM
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 10:06 AM
Funny how TX can take low blows at NW's team and etc but let someone take a shot at SLC then they are removed. Oh well let the ignorance continue of people going outside the lines of football.
nwbull
07-31-2007, 10:35 AM
Funny how TX can take low blows at NW's team and etc but let someone take a shot at SLC then they are removed. Oh well let the ignorance continue of people going outside the lines of football.
Thank god for TxAllDay someone who gives MNW respect.Texas fans think it's all about them.When you say one word about Slc it's an insult but speak negatively of the bulls and the entire board agrees.
nwbull
07-31-2007, 10:38 AM
When mnw wins this game i'm on the first plane out of tx for my own safety.It will be a state of emergency.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:38 AM
Thank god for TxAllDay someone who gives MNW respect.Texas fans think it's all about them.When you say one word about Slc it's an insult but speak negatively of the bulls and the entire board agrees.
You haven't been reading if you think the SLC people don't respect the FOOTBALL ASPECT of this MNW all-star compilation of talent...
~DnM
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:39 AM
When mnw wins this game i'm on the first plane out of tx for my own safety.It will be a state of emergency.
ROFL!
Yes, get away from SL as soon as possible. Back to the safety of Miami.
~DnM
KT2000
07-31-2007, 10:40 AM
I will agree that some comments are out of line about NW, but I'm not sure what you NW-Florida supporters expected. This is a TEXAS football board, so the natural reaction in these threads will be against NW. Obviously, the PR for Northwestern outside of Liberty City hasn't been very good lately and that's a stigma NW would be fighting if they played in Texas, Califorinia or New York.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 10:42 AM
Funny how TX can take low blows at NW's team and etc but let someone take a shot at SLC then they are removed. Oh well let the ignorance continue of people going outside the lines of football.
Lighten up. There's a difference between a light hearted remark and serious/hurtful allegation or insinuation. There have been very few remarks made about the kids at MNW. Most all of the words, humorous or otherwise, have been reserved for the adults that control the situation in that community. As the parents, teachers, administrators & leaders of that community I have no pity for them being on the short end of a verbal assault. They are the ones on whom all the responsibility falls. They are the ones to make change. Any failure to do so is their fault. The kids can only play the hand they are dealt as best as they can. The adults have always been the focus of any criticism leveled against MNW. On a daily basis you will find much more close minded & baseless things said about Carroll by people from our own state.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 10:43 AM
Thank god for TxAllDay someone who gives MNW respect.Texas fans think it's all about them.When you say one word about Slc it's an insult but speak negatively of the bulls and the entire board agrees.
Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't flawed?
nwbull
07-31-2007, 10:43 AM
You haven't been reading if you think the SLC people don't respect the FOOTBALL ASPECT of this MNW all-star compilation of talent...
~DnM
Stop trying to label this as an allstar team that's an excuse for this defeat.The anticipation of defeat is worse than defeat itself.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:46 AM
Stop trying to label this as an allstar team that's an excuse for this defeat.The anticipation of defeat is worse than defeat itself.
Good lord, you have issues...
Is this not a team that's stacked full of kids that are going to be all over all-star games after the season? Is this team not stacked full of 3 and 4* talent according to Rivals?
Sounds like a bunch of ALL-STARS are on that team to me! I don't think it's a slam at all...
Man, it's really a compliment...
~DnM
DragonFan
07-31-2007, 10:46 AM
The Dragon Nation would like to invite any of the MNW fans who are coming to the game to join us as we have tailgate parties before the game. Lots of good food and good natured bantering will be going on. After the game, whatever the outcome may be, the same invintation to congradulate each other on seeing a great football game and grimmice or reminece on the game at Po Melvins in Southlake.
Good luck and travel well!
whs08
07-31-2007, 10:48 AM
When mnw wins this game i'm on the first plane out of tx for my own safety.It will be a state of emergency.
:D
nwbull
07-31-2007, 10:51 AM
Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't flawed?
Now comes the personal attacks,as always i'm ready for this,being a mnw grad we are use to it.Insults i've been trained for so please direct them some where else.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 10:51 AM
I will agree that some comments are out of line about NW, but I'm not sure what you NW-Florida supporters expected. This is a TEXAS football board, so the natural reaction in these threads will be against NW. Obviously, the PR for Northwestern outside of Liberty City hasn't been very good lately and that's a stigma NW would be fighting if they played in Texas, Califorinia or New York.
There have been a few posts that may have raised an eyebrow. I would argue that the vast majority have been above the board. You have to expect a bias for the Texas team on the Texas board. Even with that said, there still have only been a few posts that were beyond reason. Spend some time reading through some of the Florida boards if you want to see outlandish, degrading & racist remarks. As for anything written about the community? They have allowed a culture to be nurtured & fostered there by all of their inactions. As a result, they are subject to some biting commentary. It's a situation of their own making, though.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:54 AM
There have been a few posts that may have raised an eyebrow. I would argue that the vast majority have been above the board. You have to expect a bias for the Texas team on the Texas board. Even with that said, there still have only been a few posts that were beyond reason. Spend some time reading through some of the Florida boards if you want to see outlandish, degrading & racist remarks. As for anything written about the community? They have allowed a culture to be nurtured & fostered there by all of their inactions. As a result, they are subject to some biting commentary. It's a situation of their own making, though.
And now you will be told you are stereotyping... It's a no win situation, really. Hell, I just gave them a compliment that was somehow taken as an insult...
~DnM
SLC93
07-31-2007, 10:57 AM
Now comes the personal attacks,as always i'm ready for this,being a mnw grad we are use to it.Insults i've been trained for so please direct them some where else.
Simple question, nothing more. Perhaps if you put a little more thought into your work you'd find yourself on more solid ground. TxAllDay has gone round and round with some of us but his arguements are sound & he makes good points from time to time. It's what we call contributing.
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 10:58 AM
Simple question, nothing more. Perhaps if you put a little more thought into your work you'd find yourself on more solid ground. TxAllDay has gone round and round with some of us but his arguements are sound & he makes good points from time to time. It's what we call contributing.
Awesome.. Just awesome..
~DnM
nwbull
07-31-2007, 10:58 AM
The Dragon Nation would like to invite any of the MNW fans who are coming to the game to join us as we have tailgate parties before the game. Lots of good food and good natured bantering will be going on. After the game, whatever the outcome may be, the same invintation to congradulate each other on seeing a great football game and grimmice or reminece on the game at Po Melvins in Southlake.
Good luck and travel well!
Now you are a real football fan and i wiil mingle with sl fans,this game gives the kids of miami an chance to showcase their ability win or lose to the nation.Having a little fun is great know one really knows the outcome,but everyone will root for their respected team.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 11:00 AM
Now you are a real football fan and i wiil mingle with sl fans,this game gives the kids of miami an chance to showcase their ability win or lose to the nation.Having a little fun is great know one really knows the outcome,but everyone will root for their respected team.
You'll find that the majority of Dragon fans feel that way and will be more than happy to enjoy this game with MNW fans.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 11:01 AM
Awesome.. Just awesome..
~DnM
Even Forest had his moments.:D
nwbull
07-31-2007, 11:01 AM
Simple question, nothing more. Perhaps if you put a little more thought into your work you'd find yourself on more solid ground. TxAllDay has gone round and round with some of us but his arguements are sound & he makes good points from time to time. It's what we call contributing.
I really careless what you think of me,your personal attacks are useless.
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:02 AM
I will agree that some comments are out of line about NW, but I'm not sure what you NW-Florida supporters expected. This is a TEXAS football board, so the natural reaction in these threads will be against NW. Obviously, the PR for Northwestern outside of Liberty City hasn't been very good lately and that's a stigma NW would be fighting if they played in Texas, Califorinia or New York.
Whatever. So shots can be taken at SLC and poster won't get kicked off site and nothing will happen right????? Because you have a quick trigger on even the slightest negative remark about Carroll. Bias
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:03 AM
The Dragon Nation would like to invite any of the MNW fans who are coming to the game to join us as we have tailgate parties before the game. Lots of good food and good natured bantering will be going on. After the game, whatever the outcome may be, the same invintation to congradulate each other on seeing a great football game and grimmice or reminece on the game at Po Melvins in Southlake.
Good luck and travel well!
Think you will find some NW posters on the site dedicated to the game.
clashofchampions.com
whs08
07-31-2007, 11:06 AM
Whatever. So shots can be taken at SLC and poster won't get kicked off site and nothing will happen right????? Because you have a quick trigger on even the slightest negative remark about Carroll. Bias
wow, never call out the administrator.
whs08
07-31-2007, 11:07 AM
I really careless what you think of me,your personal attacks are useless.
You take crap way to seriously, calm down.
KT2000
07-31-2007, 11:09 AM
Whatever. So shots can be taken at SLC and poster won't get kicked off site and nothing will happen right????? Because you have a quick trigger on even the slightest negative remark about Carroll. Bias
Nowhere in my post did I say that. Shots have been going both directions. If I really wanted to be a punk about it, you and nwbull wouldn't be able to post.
At first, I did not take on registrations I knew were from Miami because I had very bad experiences with the first few. I got emails filled with cusses and what not from people who hadn't even posted yet trying to front for NW.
I'm doing my best to let the discussion go, but it if gets ridiculous on either side I will handle it. I have no problems doing that.
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:11 AM
You take crap way to seriously, calm down.
..
drgnbkr
07-31-2007, 11:17 AM
What's the worse that can happen?? One less person who supports NW on this board and little or no debate between NW-SLC. Buddy it's not the end of the world. You TX fans live on flrivals anyway. LOL
Huh?
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:18 AM
wow, never call out the administrator.
What's the worse that can happen?? One less person who supports NW on this board and little or no debate between NW-SLC. Buddy it's not the end of the world. You TX fans live on flrivals anyway. LOL
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:20 AM
Nowhere in my post did I say that. Shots have been going both directions. If I really wanted to be a punk about it, you and nwbull wouldn't be able to post.
At first, I did not take on registrations I knew were from Miami because I had very bad experiences with the first few. I got emails filled with cusses and what not from people who hadn't even posted yet trying to front for NW.
I'm doing my best to let the discussion go, but it if gets ridiculous on either side I will handle it. I have no problems doing that.
Yeah ok I don't see you saying lets stay on topic when certain "shots" are taken at NW. Bullet wounds??? Didn't find that funny at all.
whs08
07-31-2007, 11:22 AM
What's the worse that can happen?? One less person who supports NW on this board and little or no debate between NW-SLC. Buddy it's not the end of the world. You TX fans live on flrivals anyway. LOL
Translation- Florida rivals.
drgnbkr
07-31-2007, 11:27 AM
Translation- Florida rivals.
We live on florida rivals? I've been over there and not much going on except a bunch of posters who've never heard of Texas HS Football...whats the point?
whs08
07-31-2007, 11:30 AM
Yeah ok I don't see you saying lets stay on topic when certain "shots" are taken at NW. Bullet wounds??? Didn't find that funny at all.
Read the post. He said shot's have been taken in both directions!
KT2000
07-31-2007, 11:31 AM
Yeah ok I don't see you saying lets stay on topic when certain "shots" are taken at NW. Bullet wounds??? Didn't find that funny at all.
A poor choice of comment for sure, but I highly doubt it was serious.
If you want to talk xs and os, I'm all for that. I posted some of my thoughts in one of the other threads (lose track of them all these days).
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 11:34 AM
All for X's and O's
drgnbkr
07-31-2007, 11:35 AM
All for X's and O's
Does MNW run a no-huddle spread, or do they huddle up?
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 11:39 AM
Yeah ok I don't see you saying lets stay on topic when certain "shots" are taken at NW. Bullet wounds??? Didn't find that funny at all.
Actually, I said gunshot wounds... If you want to make some weak attempt at 'firing'(sorry, had to!) back at me, at least get it straight...
~DnM
All x's and o's or I will come in here and clean this muthaf***** UP! You sons of b***** need to talk FOOTBALL......
I'm KT's hired gun....I can talk like that.:D
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 12:01 PM
TxAllDay... Interesting name... So w/40 posts or so under your belt, you've really proven to be MNWAllDay. Petition for a name change maybe?
~DnM
born and raised in miami, graduate of miami killian in '98 went to FAMU and UM for grad school just moved to the dallas area (lewisville) in 04 i work close to slc beleive it or not. the name txallday is a reference to you alls women who are thick as all out-doors, pretty as ever and are not as stuck up as the miami women i'm used too, and the living out here is much better than in fl. more jobs better pay and more english... lol
as far as football is concerned i still follow dade county hs football, and i'm a canes fan, which might get me shot out here, i dont know yet...lol
SLC93
07-31-2007, 12:05 PM
born and raised in miami, graduate of miami killian in '98 went to FAMU and UM for grad school just moved to the dallas area (lewisville) in 04 i work close to slc beleive it or not. the name txallday is a reference to you alls women who are thick as all out-doors, pretty as ever and are not as stuck up as the miami women i'm used too, and the living out here is much better than in fl. more jobs better pay and more english... lol
as far as football is concerned i still follow dade county hs football, and i'm a canes fan, which might get me shot out here, i dont know yet...lol
Just stay away from that spanking they gave the Longhorns at the Cotton Bowl back in the early nineties & you should be fine.;)
Just stay away from that spanking they gave the Longhorns at the Cotton Bowl back in the early nineties & you should be fine.;)
See....we were doing just fine......I knew SOMEBODY would bring that up. Didnt that game cause a lot of Rule changes in the following years? The "Miami" rules...lol
TxAllDay
07-31-2007, 12:12 PM
Just stay away from that spanking they gave the Longhorns at the Cotton Bowl back in the early nineties & you should be fine.;)
to be really honest wit yall...
i really dont like the west...
most people in dade county who didnt go to the west despise the west, but its mainly cuz their attitude that they are better than everybody, but until we can prove em wrong we cant knock em...
as far as why i rep em so hard on here its like they represent miami, my home, so i gotta ride wit em even if i dont like em and happily root against them in every game they play, except against carrol city cuz i hate them more... lmao
Whatever. So shots can be taken at SLC and poster won't get kicked off site and nothing will happen right????? Because you have a quick trigger on even the slightest negative remark about Carroll. Bias
Posting on various sites,TX/FL/OH/CA/National I have come up with some rules that seem to apply everywhere.
1. The home team rules. They either have more talent, work harder, have better coaching, better chemistry than you have seen.
2. Suggesting there is a weakness with a team, means you do not know what you are talking about.
3. The only way to have a correct point, is to agree that the home team has whatever aspect of #1 the fans think they do.
4. If the team is talented, they have the most talent of anyone in the country. Trying to say that there are teams elsewhere with similar talent will get you blasted.
5. Likewise, many teams do not like to acknowledge they are talented, see DLS/SLC. Suggesting the teams sucess might be related to the level of talent that is currently in the college ranks or in the pros will dismissed.
6. You have to understand there is no mixing of #4 and #5. If you are a talented team, you cannot work hard, have heart etc. If you have heart, good coaching etc. you cannot be talented.
7. The home team fanbase is the best and travels everywhere. The community is behind its team.
8. The home team school does not recruit, but it is a known fact that other schools do. Primarily schools in other states, but usually the rival school can be fit in there as well. If you are a public school fan, you can blanket all privates. If you are a private school fan, apply the first part of this rule.
9. If your team does lose, it was not any good, had an injury and was not representative of past or future teams. Likewise the opponent, was the tops of their state/region/hometown and more than likely cheated anyway.
10. Pretty much the only way you can be respectful is to state that the home team rules and will win, with the most talent or hardest work, with the best fans, and local players.
Hope these help.
SLC93
07-31-2007, 12:25 PM
See....we were doing just fine......I knew SOMEBODY would bring that up. Didnt that game cause a lot of Rule changes in the following years? The "Miami" rules...lol
I was a goofball kid when that game was played & didn't have the good sense to be a Longhorn's fan.:D I was in love with the Hurricanes. Only time I had ever been uncomfortable with my youth group was that day. We always had four or five tv's going on New Years day and that year the big screen was tuned to the Cotton Bowl. I show up in my Miami sweats & ballcap, ready to aggravate. Then the Canes lay waste to the Horns and all the sudden I'm not feeling the love from above. It was a relentless ribbing that still comes up every once in awhile.:D
drgnbkr
07-31-2007, 12:27 PM
Posting on various sites,TX/FL/OH/CA/National I have come up with some rules that seem to apply everywhere.
1. The home team rules. They either have more talent, work harder, have better coaching, better chemistry than you have seen.
2. Suggesting there is a weakness with a team, means you dod not know what you are talking about.
3. The only way to have a correct point, is to agree that the home team has whatever aspect of #1 the fans think they do.
4. If the team is talented, they have the most talent of anyone in the country. Trying to say that there are teams elsewhere with similar talent will get you blasted.
5. Likewise, many teams do not like to acknowledge they are talented, see DLS/SLC. Suggesting the teams sucess might be related to the level of talent that is currently in the college ranks or in the pros will dismissed.
6. You have to understand there is no mixing of #4and #5. If you are a talented team, you cannot work hard, have heart etc. If you have heart, good coaching etc. you cannot be talented.
7. The home team fanbase is the best and travels everywhere. The community is behind its team.
8. The home team school does not recruit, but it is a known fact that other schools do. Primarily schools in other states, but usually the rival school can be fit in there as well. If you are a public school fan, you can blanket all privates. If you are a private school fan, apply the first part of this rule.
9. If your team does lose, it was not any good, had an insjury and was not representative of past or future teams. Likewise the opponent, was the tops of their state/region/hometown and more than likely cheated anyway.
10. Pretty much the only way you can be respectful is to state that the home team rules and will win, with the most talent or hardest work, with the best fans, and local players.
Hope these help.
Not bad...we hold these truths to be self evident...etc, etc, etc,...
SLC93
07-31-2007, 12:29 PM
Not bad...we hold these truths to be self evident...etc, etc, etc,...
Pied has his moments:D
farmerfan
07-31-2007, 12:31 PM
I was a goofball kid when that game was played & didn't have the good sense to be a Longhorn's fan.:D I was in love with the Hurricanes. Only time I had ever been uncomfortable with my youth group was that day. We always had four or five tv's going on New Years day and that year the big screen was tuned to the Cotton Bowl. I show up in my Miami sweats & ballcap, ready to aggravate. Then the Canes lay waste to the Horns and all the sudden I'm not feeling the love from above. It was a relentless ribbing that still comes up every once in awhile.:D
That was a very arrogant Texas team. They were on their self proclaimed shock the world tour. During the bowl layoff the Miami players had kept quiet and said nothing to the media while the Texas players were off running their mouths talking about their number 3 national ranking. Texas had just come off a 1 point victory over A&M and tried to carry that momentum into the Cotton Bowl.
The Miami players remained calmed throughout pregame and then unleashed on Texas. The Hurricanes were flagged for (a bowl record that still stands to this day) 15 personal foul penalties I believe and over 230 yards in total penalties. They abused Texas all afternoon quickly putting an end ot the shock the world tour as they easily defeated the horns 45-3
showdownon9/15
07-31-2007, 12:37 PM
Finally. Welcome board. I've been reading alot of this stuff and my buddy txallday has been my voice on alot of things posted within the last couple of days. I read comments, write my reply and he copy and pastes my thoughts on this site. Thanks allday. Now I will be a respectful poster and hopefully everything is done all in fun. I will be to the game and look fwd to the game. Matthew posts some of the things I write on here. Interesting twist is that Coach Rolle and Nate Newton are real good friends. And speak on a weekly basis even before Rolle got the job at NW. They played together at FAMU. Nate is from Orlando. Will ask coach how the convo's are going now.
That was a very arrogant Texas team. They were on their self proclaimed shock the world tour. During the bowl layoff the Miami players had kept quiet and said nothing to the media while the Texas players were off running their mouths talking about their number 3 national ranking. Texas had just come off a 1 point victory over A&M and tried to carry that momentum into the Cotton Bowl.
The Miami players remained calmed throughout pregame and then unleashed on Texas. The Hurricanes were flagged for (a bowl record that still stands to this day) 15 personal foul penalties I believe and over 230 yards in total penalties. They abused Texas all afternoon quickly putting an end ot the shock the world tour as they easily defeated the horns 45-3
You are wrong farmer, it was 46-3!!!!
This was my first year in Austin and it was glorius. We had beaten Penn St. in Happy Valley, barely lost to CO in a non conf game, beat ou(how about that non conf schedule!!) and went undefeated in the SWC.
There was reason for optimism.
That was crushed on the opening kick off. I do not recall Miami being calm, but I do remember our playing being knocked out at the beginning.
It was a butt kicking of the highest order. Texas should have been proud of the season, but I think it did show the relative weakness of the SWC at the time.
P.S. It was very cold and I was uber hung over.... I also had a pole in front of my face during the game.
hey pied..who does lancer pick in this game..or does he really give a %##@?
HAven't seen him around anywhere forever. Not on TexasHSFootball, not NorCal, not even the USC site.
He used to show up on the Rivals Recruiting board, but have notseen him there either.
I'd expect him to pick SLC, and probably big in this game.
Texasfrog
07-31-2007, 02:03 PM
born and raised in miami, graduate of miami killian in '98 went to FAMU and UM for grad school just moved to the dallas area (lewisville) in 04 i work close to slc beleive it or not. the name txallday is a reference to you alls women who are thick as all out-doors, pretty as ever and are not as stuck up as the miami women i'm used too, and the living out here is much better than in fl. more jobs better pay and more english... lol
as far as football is concerned i still follow dade county hs football, and i'm a canes fan, which might get me shot out here, i dont know yet...lol
Well, some of the things I will agree with you on.
1. Texas women are much more beautiful than Dade & Broward women. In fact it aint even really close (IMO).
2. The South Florida women are 100% stuck up and they all think they are hotter than Hell. Even a complete ugly rag-dog woman in South Florida has an attitude and thinks she is the Shieza.:rolleyes: In Texas most of those women would be 2nd & 3rd string.
3. If you talk english in 95% of Dade Co. and about 60% of Broward Co. the people look at you like "Who the Hell are you and go back to America and get out of South Florida because this is Latinenville and you dont belong here.;)
4. The cost of living in Texas is about 1/4th of what it is in South Florida. $300,000 house in South Florida basically buys you a crack-shack in Opa Locka.:eek:
Texasfrog
07-31-2007, 02:13 PM
Stop trying to label this as an allstar team that's an excuse for this defeat.The anticipation of defeat is worse than defeat itself.
Ya, like you crying several times, "dont let the refs take the game from MNW.":rolleyes: Getting the excuses ready I see.
Second, stop crying that no one on here from Texas is giving MNW respect. I think almost everyone on here has stated several times that MNW is very talented and is loaded with top notch blue-chips.
Just because 95% of the people on here dont think MNW will win the game against SLC you take that as people not respecting MNW. Listen, most of the teams South Florida might fear MNW but you wont find that here in Texas.
People on here (From Texas) have made 100's of predictions on this game (SLC vs MNW) and they range from SLC winning from 6 pts to up to 30 pts. But, I dont think anyone on here has really disrespected MNW like you want to spin-it.
GBMonster76
07-31-2007, 02:44 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
ScottS
07-31-2007, 02:58 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Have you read any of my posts?
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 03:04 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Never?!? OMG!!
*watches the sky fall*
~DnM
drgnbkr
07-31-2007, 03:09 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
We've seen a loss before in 5-A...We recovered pretty well don't ya think?
CCBoy
07-31-2007, 03:11 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
If SLC loses this game it won't hurt Texas football. These are the top two teams in the nation according to some polls. So whichever team loses will not impact the entire state. It's okay for both states to believe in their football programs. Both Texas and Florida have wonderful programs and should be proud win or lose.
DragonFan
07-31-2007, 03:19 PM
The "Bullett Wounds" was a little much but it was posted in good fun. It was over the line and I can see how proud supporters of MNW would be offended by it.
Now back to the topic at hand.......
KT2000
07-31-2007, 03:21 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
I've stated my opinion on this multiple times, but the game just isn't that big. It's a very intriguing match-up between two powerhouses, but the ultimate goal of either team is to win their respective state championships.
I can't think there is a single player on NW or Carroll that would trade a win in this game for their state championship.
The result of this game is not going to change the FACT that Texas and Florida produce some of the best football talent in the country year in and year out.
I've stated my opinion on this multiple times, but the game just isn't that big. It's a very intriguing match-up between two powerhouses, but the ultimate goal of either team is to win their respective state championships.
I can't think there is a single player on NW or Carroll that would trade a win in this game for their state championship.
The result of this game is not going to change the FACT that Texas and Florida produce some of the best football talent in the country year in and year out.
I agree with much of what you post, but also think that players on bth teams don't think that way.
I think they want to win both. To a player I imagine they give you the standard, "We want to play for a title", but I think that they look at the games as two seperate events.
Ask a Texas fan, which one do you want to beat ou or win the conf title?
The game won't change anything, but there will be a lot of crow to be served in one state or the other.
GBMonster76
07-31-2007, 04:06 PM
I was being overly dramatic, but as a Florida and Texas fan of high school football, I believe that Texas has the overall better teams and programs. If the 80K to 100K salaries for Texas HS coaches doesn't prove that, I don't know what does. No coach in Florida can be paid anything above the standard stipend of about 6K plus his teaching salary. That means the highest paid coaches in Florida are the ones who've been coaching the longest and have increased up the state's pay ladder. Put it this way, the highest paid coaches in Florida have been coaching for 30 years and make about 65K. A 30 year old head coach who's been in the system for 8 years will make about 40K. I assume the Texas coaches get paid there standard salaries and then another 40K to 50K out of the booster fund...not sure on where the big numbers come from in Texas and places like southern Georgia.
But, contrary to my feelings about the programs and teams being better in Texas, excluding Lakeland, FL, I firmly believe that top to bottom Florida has more raw D1 talent.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Sakatha
07-31-2007, 04:08 PM
I was being overly dramatic, but as a Florida and Texas fan of high school football, I believe that Texas has the overall better teams and programs. If the 80K to 100K salaries for Texas HS coaches doesn't prove that, I don't know what does. No coach in Florida can be paid anything above the standard stipend of about 6K plus his teaching salary. That means the highest paid coaches in Florida are the ones who've been coaching the longest and have increased up the state's pay ladder. Put it this way, the highest paid coaches in Florida have been coaching for 30 years and make about 65K. A 30 year old head coach who's been in the system for 8 years will make about 40K. I assume the Texas coaches get paid there standard salaries and then another 40K to 50K out of the booster fund...not sure on where the big numbers come from in Texas and places like southern Georgia.
But, contrary to my feelings about the programs and teams being better in Texas, excluding Lakeland, FL, I firmly believe that top to bottom Florida has more raw D1 talent.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
If by raw you are including the kids that just can't cut it academically then sure. I could believe that. If we're counting kids that MAKE it to college, then hell no...
~DnM
KT2000
07-31-2007, 04:10 PM
Ask a Texas fan, which one do you want to beat ou or win the conf title?
One is a prereq for the other in that case.
As far as this game is concerned, NW obviously doesn't have to beat SLC to accomplish their goals in Florida and the same is true for the Dragons.
Of course the players want to win this game. They will be on ESPN with the country watching. And if they are true competitors, they would go play this game in a back alley somewhere right now. I'm certainly not debating that angle of it.
I just think in the middle of all this hype you have to keep the bigger picuture in perspective for both teams.
OakTreeUp-n-Out
07-31-2007, 04:22 PM
nm
One is a prereq for the other in that case.
As far as this game is concerned, NW obviously doesn't have to beat SLC to accomplish their goals in Florida and the same is true for the Dragons.
Of course the players want to win this game. They will be on ESPN with the country watching. And if they are true competitors, they would go play this game in a back alley somewhere right now. I'm certainly not debating that angle of it.
I just think in the middle of all this hype you have to keep the bigger picuture in perspective for both teams.
Texas lost to ou in '00 and went to the title game.
Texas beat ou last year and ou went on to win the title.
I agree with your last statement, but do think this is just about as big a game as they come.
As a Viking fan, I would prefer to have lost to Rutherford in '98 and have won the title. That being said, the players did get a "trip of a lifetime" and many peopel bring up that game, but I rarely hear people talk about Duncanville winning the Championship(whom Lamar beat for the District title).
rancher52
07-31-2007, 04:38 PM
I was being overly dramatic, but as a Florida and Texas fan of high school football, I believe that Texas has the overall better teams and programs. If the 80K to 100K salaries for Texas HS coaches doesn't prove that, I don't know what does. No coach in Florida can be paid anything above the standard stipend of about 6K plus his teaching salary. That means the highest paid coaches in Florida are the ones who've been coaching the longest and have increased up the state's pay ladder. Put it this way, the highest paid coaches in Florida have been coaching for 30 years and make about 65K. A 30 year old head coach who's been in the system for 8 years will make about 40K. I assume the Texas coaches get paid there standard salaries and then another 40K to 50K out of the booster fund...not sure on where the big numbers come from in Texas and places like southern Georgia.
But, contrary to my feelings about the programs and teams being better in Texas, excluding Lakeland, FL, I firmly believe that top to bottom Florida has more raw D1 talent.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com (http://www.gridironbrotherhood.com)
While there is some disparity, a recent report from Florida showed that there were a dozen coaches making between $80 and $95k. (Texas has somewhere around 65 in this range). The stipends differed significantly based on the school district. The real difference, however, was something called "other supplement". That was what really separated the ones making higher amounts but I have no idea where it is derived. Private schools could be funding much more and not even be required to disclose it.
DragonFan0316
07-31-2007, 04:38 PM
Ya, like you crying several times, "dont let the refs take the game from MNW.":rolleyes: Getting the excuses ready I see.
Second, stop crying that no one on here from Texas is giving MNW respect. I think almost everyone on here has stated several times that MNW is very talented and is loaded with top notch blue-chips.
Just because 95% of the people on here dont think MNW will win the game against SLC you take that as people not respecting MNW. Listen, most of the teams South Florida might fear MNW but you wont find that here in Texas.
People on here (From Texas) have made 100's of predictions on this game (SLC vs MNW) and they range from SLC winning from 6 pts to up to 30 pts. But, I dont think anyone on here has really disrespected MNW like you want to spin-it.
Well said Frog! MNW is a champion like SLC. So in that way I respect them. I am at the same time a witness to the things SLC can do and of course I am a fan. I predict Carroll will win. I hope it will be a blow out just because my heart can't take anything less.
MNW has a reputation as a poor winner though. If it is true that they selfingrandize and show other teams up by in your face dancing and performing then they would lose that respect. I have seen Carroll win and lose like champions. Can MNW do the same? I would like to hear from the Sotuh Florida loyalist on this subject. Can MNW play and win in a professional way?
MNW has a reputation as a poor winner though. If it is true that they selfingrandize and show other teams up by in your face dancing and performing then they would lose that respect. I have seen Carroll win and lose like champions. Can MNW do the same? I would like to hear from the Sotuh Florida loyalist on this subject. Can MNW play and win in a professional way?
Interesting.
This was not on display in their title game and that was discussed by several posters.
Can you point to where they have shown up other teams with in your face dancing?
Thanks
DragonFan0316
07-31-2007, 04:58 PM
Interesting.
This was not on display in their title game and that was discussed by several posters.
Can you point to where they have shown up other teams with in your face dancing?
Thanks
I have seen film. Sorry I can't be more specific. I would be glad to be way off base here. And I sure don't want to spread any rumors. So if I am wrong, glad to hear it. May the best team win.:)
I have seen film. Sorry I can't be more specific. I would be glad to be way off base here. And I sure don't want to spread any rumors. So if I am wrong, glad to hear it. May the best team win.:)
Are you really John Kerry?
showdownon9/15
07-31-2007, 06:05 PM
Well said Frog! MNW is a champion like SLC. So in that way I respect them. I am at the same time a witness to the things SLC can do and of course I am a fan. I predict Carroll will win. I hope it will be a blow out just because my heart can't take anything less.
MNW has a reputation as a poor winner though. If it is true that they selfingrandize and show other teams up by in your face dancing and performing then they would lose that respect. I have seen Carroll win and lose like champions. Can MNW do the same? I would like to hear from the Sotuh Florida loyalist on this subject. Can MNW play and win in a professional way?
No they will go over to SLC side of field dance and rant and rave in victory and go after SLC players if they lose. Name any game last year they didn't play in a professional way???? Where are you getting your assumption from that they are poor winners?? Enlighten me
DragonFan0316
07-31-2007, 06:17 PM
No they will go over to SLC side of field dance and rant and rave in victory and go after SLC players if they lose. Name any game last year they didn't play in a professional way???? Where are you getting your assumption from that they are poor winners?? Enlighten me
Easy there. Is the information right or wrong? That is all I asked. As far as yours mannors and sarcasim go I can enlighten you. It reaks of immaturity;) Take your meds baby.
DragonFan0316
07-31-2007, 06:18 PM
Are you really John Kerry?
Not sure I follow you old chap.:confused:
Matthew 2000 Eagle
07-31-2007, 07:14 PM
No they will go over to SLC side of field dance and rant and rave in victory and go after SLC players if they lose. Name any game last year they didn't play in a professional way???? Where are you getting your assumption from that they are poor winners?? Enlighten me
You finally made it on, welcome.
Texasfrog
07-31-2007, 08:38 PM
I have to tell you...as I've said many times before...I'm a big Texas and Florida fan, but the certainty from the SLC fans on a victory over MNW is ridiculous. SLC loses this game and Texas will never recover...ever.
SLC 31
MNW 21
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Why would Texas never recover if SLC loses the game ? This isnt the first time that Texas HS teams have played Florida HS teams and for the most part the Texas teams have dominated the Florida HS teams.
You say that if SLC loses the game Texas will never recover. Well, what about if MNW loses the game. MNW is the returning 6A Champs that has like 70% of the team returning and has who many claim is the "MOST TALENTED" team in Florida HS history. So, what if they lose there amigo ?
What if SLC blows them out ? Just what if ? What if SLC blows them out by 20+ points and than MNW goes back to Florida and dominates almost everyone they play against and wins the Fla 2007 (6A Title).
Well Florida ever recover ? I dont do it but I know that I could go to some Florida HS message site and see 100's of Florida people talking about how MNW is going to blow out SLC.
I happen to think that SLC is going to win the game and I also think it will be by about 20+ points. Just my prediction. I also see SLC scoring 40 pts which some (Mangie Swamp Rat and a very few others) think is insane. We'll see.
GBMonster76
08-01-2007, 08:35 AM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Sakatha
08-01-2007, 09:20 AM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Sup, pot!
Oh, btw. Mark!
~DnM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
I'd refer you to Rules #1 and #10.
SLC93
08-01-2007, 10:56 AM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
I'm not saying you're wrong but that DI talent is over rated. Teams lose all the time down here with DI talent all over the field. Maybe over rated is not the right way to say it because talent helps. It's more of a mentality than anything else. Having DI talent does not translate to instant success, even when it's overflowing. MNW did dominate last season but alot of those numbers were put up against the not so top heavy Dade County schools. Perspective is all anyone is asking for.
I'm not saying you're wrong but that DI talent is over rated. Teams lose all the time down here with DI talent all over the field. Maybe over rated is not the right way to say it because talent helps. It's more of a mentality than anything else. Having DI talent does not translate to instant success, even when it's overflowing. MNW did dominate last season but alot of those numbers were put up against the not so top heavy Dade County schools. Perspective is all anyone is asking for.
See rule #6
6. You have to understand there is no mixing of #4 and #5. If you are a talented team, you cannot work hard, have heart etc. If you have heart, good coaching etc. you cannot be talented.
KT2000
08-01-2007, 11:38 AM
If the NW players are being coached by the new staff like they were in that Year of the Bull video, they will be lucky to get within two touchdowns in my honest opinion.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 11:41 AM
If the NW players are being coached by the new staff like they were in that Year of the Bull video, they will be lucky to get within two touchdowns in my honest opinion.
Again another year of the bull comment. Again was six years ago. Did they win state on year of the bull? No. Trust me this team is no where near being coached like that.
SLC93
08-01-2007, 11:45 AM
See rule #6
6. You have to understand there is no mixing of #4 and #5. If you are a talented team, you cannot work hard, have heart etc. If you have heart, good coaching etc. you cannot be talented.
That's not what I'm saying, pied. The only thing I'm pointing out is the abundancy of posters, here & on other boards, that simply point to the number of scholarship players as the sole reason a team will succeed. That's no guarantee of anything, in & of itself. The kids at MNW have proven to be a highly successful collection of talented kids. I just want to hear something more insightful about them. The talent is a given, something we know already.
KT2000
08-01-2007, 11:48 AM
Again another year of the bull comment. Again was six years ago. Did they win state on year of the bull? No. Trust me this team is no where near being coached like that.
Was that not essentially the same coaching staff the current crop of NW players were playing for until all the stuff went down recently? I was under the impression that it was.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 11:49 AM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
Trust me, that's all your "OPINION."
You say that no one will beat MNW by 20 pts because they have to much D-1A talent. Well, I've seen teams with D-1A talent all over the defense that have had 30 to 40 pts scored on them.
I've seen teams with maybe one (D-1A) kid on defense and they've shut down almost everyone.
Your argument about the D-1A talent doesnt hold much water with me. But, I know in Florida and especially South Florida it means everything 95% of the time. Y'all judge every team on how much D1-A talent is on them.
I've read some Miami boards where people state that MNW will score at least 7 tds on SLC (which means 42 pts) in my book.
I've read people from South Florida say there is no way that a team of White boys (SLC) will beat MNW.
The list could go on and on.
I have my prediction and I'll be sticking to it. SLC- 45 MNW- 21 or at least 20 pts (if both teams are healthy) coming into the game.
If the game was in Miami, I would predict more of a SLC- 35 MNW-28 type of game.
I think the game being played in Texas gives SLC at least a 20+ advantage.
DrEdward
08-01-2007, 11:50 AM
Was that not essentially the same coaching staff the current crop of NW players were playing for until all the stuff went down recently? I was under the impression that it was.
I was under the impression that the head coach was the same one up until last month, but that many, if not all, of the assistants had been replaced since then.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 11:53 AM
That's not what I'm saying, pied. The only thing I'm pointing out is the abundancy of posters, here & on other boards, that simply point to the number of scholarship players as the sole reason a team will succeed. That's no guarantee of anything, in & of itself. The kids at MNW have proven to be a highly successful collection of talented kids. I just want to hear something more insightful about them. The talent is a given, something we know already.
That's right SLC93. I could give you a list of several Texas teams over the years that had tons of D-1A talent on their team and they got blown out a few times. Many of those (D-1A) kids on those teams went on to great college careers but it didnt mean "Jack-S" on that HS field.
The Prima donna example of that is Dallas Carter in the last 90's when they had several teams loaded with D-1A kids. They got blown out several times.
SLC93
08-01-2007, 11:54 AM
Was that not essentially the same coaching staff the current crop of NW players were playing for until all the stuff went down recently? I was under the impression that it was.
Roland Smith was retained as the hc with the assistant staff being replaced as a result of that situation.
KT2000
08-01-2007, 11:56 AM
I have to admit I saw something on a national board that had me laughing out loud for a good five minutes.
"Miami Northwestern vs. Southlake Carroll=
And 1 vs. Tom Emanski"
SLC93
08-01-2007, 12:03 PM
I have to admit I saw something on a national board that had me laughing out loud for a good five minutes.
"Miami Northwestern vs. Southlake Carroll=
And 1 vs. Tom Emanski"
:puke :puke :D :D :D
GBMonster76
08-01-2007, 01:32 PM
SLC is a far better coached team than MNW, which is more of a Texas versus Florida thing anyway. Meaning... there are a lot of programs in Florida that are run by sub-par coaches because all the great Florida coaches, excluding a few, either move to Georgia to coach (where it's like Texas with money), move on to college to coach, or coach at the private schools that don't have the talent of the MNW's of the world. That's why Lakeland is so special because they are just like a Texas school...but there are only a few schools in Florida that are well coached and have the talent because Florida is not a HS coaching hotbed. I personally know a lot of great coaches in Florida that have left, are leaving, or want to leave so they can make more money and be involved with more serious programs, facilities, etc.... a la...Texas HS football.
www.gridironbrotherhood.com
GBMonster76
08-01-2007, 01:35 PM
I have to admit I saw something on a national board that had me laughing out loud for a good five minutes.
"Miami Northwestern vs. Southlake Carroll=
And 1 vs. Tom Emanski"
Admittedly, and I'm not proud of this, ..... I don't get it. Please explain the joke. Tom Emanski the baseball instruction guy with the lame TV commercials?
KT2000
08-01-2007, 01:41 PM
Admittedly, and I'm not proud of this, ..... I don't get it. Please explain the joke. Tom Emanski the baseball instruction guy with the lame TV commercials?
Yeah, that's Emanski. The one who can make a kid throw a ball into a trash can from centerfield....every time. :D The comparison being of course that NW are the flashy athletes (And 1 Mixtape Streetball videos) and SLC are the machine-like perfectionists.
That's not what I'm saying, pied. The only thing I'm pointing out is the abundancy of posters, here & on other boards, that simply point to the number of scholarship players as the sole reason a team will succeed. That's no guarantee of anything, in & of itself. The kids at MNW have proven to be a highly successful collection of talented kids. I just want to hear something more insightful about them. The talent is a given, something we know already.
I would point to the fact that together they won the championship in the largest calssification in FL. I know some on here downplay the 6A league, and I understand the reasons for doing so.
The fact is that they beat all comers and did so in convincing fashion, something that cannot be denied. All teams in that league had the same goal and only one was able to accomplish that.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Was that not essentially the same coaching staff the current crop of NW players were playing for until all the stuff went down recently? I was under the impression that it was.
Yes it was same head coach but all new assistants. I'm always out there at practice for last 5 years and sense that movie the actions and coaching you saw there was not same actions under most recent departed coaching staff and definately won't be under coach Rolle.
dragonsdaddy
08-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Yeah, that's Emanski. The one who can make a kid throw a ball into a trash can from centerfield....every time. :D The comparison being of course that NW are the flashy athletes (And 1 Mixtape Streetball videos) and SLC are the machine-like perfectionists.
thanks. i thought maybe i was alone in my non-comprehension.
That's right SLC93. I could give you a list of several Texas teams over the years that had tons of D-1A talent on their team and they got blown out a few times. Many of those (D-1A) kids on those teams went on to great college careers but it didnt mean "Jack-S" on that HS field.
The Prima donna example of that is Dallas Carter in the last 90's when they had several teams loaded with D-1A kids. They got blown out several times.
I don't follow that example very well.
Dallas Carter was very talented but not very succesful. I just don't see how someone can make that statement about MNW at this time.
On the HS field they have beaten everyone, correct?
78 Spartan
08-01-2007, 01:47 PM
I'd be inclined to try to avoid the stereotypes that are imbedded in this conversation when most of the posters haven't even seen the other team, other than maybe a clip on youtube.
It is easy to be an armchair expert and say MNW (predominantly african-american) is full of immense but undisciplined talent that can win a track meet but not show class in a tough hard-fought football game.
It is likewise easy to say SLC (predominantly anglo-american) is a bunch of unathletic overachievers who can't get a scholarship to play college football but will always find a way to win the game because of coaching and intangibles.
Easy, but wrong.
According to Webster's the definition of prejudice is (a) (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge (b) : an instance of such judgment or opinion (c) : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.
I'm not calling anybody on either side here a bigot, just acknowledging that we are all susceptible to our internal biases and prejudices. We ought to just
1. celebrate the MIRACLE that these two great state champions have been brought together to play on the field,
2. go to the game and enjoy the two different teams which have different strengths,
3. hope it's a great, competitive and well-played ballgame with no ugly incidents, and
4. see what happens.
And let's be friends before, during and after the game. Because the way we handle ourselves in this situation will teach our kids how to handle these kind of situations.
How about that?
DragonFan
08-01-2007, 02:08 PM
The difference in this game will be how well the kids handle the pre game hype and the Television factor.
The SLC program has been on national television 4 times in the last 4 years. They have been on Fox Regional Television 5 times in the last 5 years (each of the State Title Games). In the last 5 years SLC has played a total of 30 playoff games, many with crowds in excess of 20 K with at least 1 having over 50k people in the stadium. They have played in Pro Stadiums (in fact have a better winning % over the last 5 years at Texas Stadium than do the Cowboys. The Dragons have never lost!) In fact a couple of years they played more games at Texas Stadium than they did at their own Dragon Stadium!
They have played in major colleges stadiums with sell out crowds.
The town of Southlake is a small community of about 23k people with a high school population of 2400. The entire town supports the Dragons and they have always drawn a crowd whenever they have played. I think the smallest crowd that I have seen is somewhere around 9000 for a regular season game.
SLC also has about a 300-400 member band that love the Dragons and can and will create a lot of energy for the team to feed off of. This does not even take into account the pep squads or the Emerald Bealls (the dance team).
SLC has been to the big game, has played on national TV, has been as dominate a program, over the last 5 years, as ever been seen in the history of Texas football.
There is not a more expericed team in the entire state of Texas due to the fact that they have completed 5 straight 16 game seasons. Most of the JV teams have traveled with the varsity team during the playoff runs and have seen the big game, the hype, the t-shirts and the will to win.
This is why most people will say that SLC will win this game. Until MNW can produce the same predigre that the Dragons have and are still doing then MNW will still be concedered by many to be the underdog in this game.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 02:15 PM
I don't follow that example very well.
Dallas Carter was very talented but not very succesful. I just don't see how someone can make that statement about MNW at this time.
On the HS field they have beaten everyone, correct?
I dont think you follow many things very well but I'll try to bring down to #101for you.
He (TxAllDay) says that no one will beat MNW by 20 pts because they have too many D-1A athletes for that.
My point is just because you have D-1A athletes doesnt mean you cant be beat and be beaten badly.
Dallas Carter was just one example of that over the years. They had a team loaded with tons of D-1A kids everywhere and they lost many games. I think that team that had like 19 (D-1A) kids went (5-5) and (6-4) during their Junior and Senior years with several games being blowouts. Dallas Carter had the "ATHLETES" all over the field and it didnt equal winning.
Next, MNW is undefeated. Undefeated in Florida (Not Texas) where they competed 99% of the time against other Dade Co. South Florida teams.
The difference in this game will be how well the kids handle the pre game hype and the Television factor.
The SLC program has been on national television 4 times in the last 4 years. They have been on Fox Regional Television 5 times in the last 5 years (each of the State Title Games). In the last 5 years SLC has played a total of 30 playoff games, many with crowds in excess of 20 K with at least 1 having over 50k people in the stadium. They have played in Pro Stadiums (in fact have a better winning % over the last 5 years at Texas Stadium than do the Cowboys. The Dragons have never lost!) In fact a couple of years they played more games at Texas Stadium than they did at their own Dragon Stadium!
They have played in major colleges stadiums with sell out crowds.
The town of Southlake is a small community of about 23k people with a high school population of 2400. The entire town supports the Dragons and they have always drawn a crowd whenever they have played. I think the smallest crowd that I have seen is somewhere around 9000 for a regular season game.
SLC also has about a 300-400 member band that love the Dragons and can and will create a lot of energy for the team to feed off of. This does not even take into account the pep squads or the Emerald Bealls (the dance team).
SLC has been to the big game, has played on national TV, has been as dominate a program, over the last 5 years, as ever been seen in the history of Texas football.
There is not a more expericed team in the entire state of Texas due to the fact that they have completed 5 straight 16 game seasons. Most of the JV teams have traveled with the varsity team during the playoff runs and have seen the big game, the hype, the t-shirts and the will to win.
This is why most people will say that SLC will win this game. Until MNW can produce the same predigre that the Dragons have and are still doing then MNW will still be concedered by many to be the underdog in this game.
Curious, do you think playing in front of TV is different when you do it in TX vs. FL?
What major college stadiums have they played at that were sold out?
Is playing at Texas Stadium harder or more difficult than Dolphin Stadium?
Do you think there is more pressure on a team playing in the title game in TX than FL(or OK/LA/OH/VA/AL/MS for that matter)?
I think the reason most people on this site think SLC will win is ebcause they are from TX, and the reason most people think MNW will win on FL sites is because they are from FL.
DragonFan
08-01-2007, 02:32 PM
What is the average attendace for a MNW game? How often does MNW play at Dolphin stadium and what were the crowds like? What was the attendence at the State Title games? I do not know and am looking for some insight.
From what I have seen, and admittedly I have only done a little bit of research on, most of the stadiums that MNW has played at do not have large capacitys and have many empty seats when the games are played. If I am wrong in this please let me know.
Thanks
SLC93
08-01-2007, 02:35 PM
Curious, do you think playing in front of TV is different when you do it in TX vs. FL?
What major college stadiums have they played at that were sold out?
Is playing at Texas Stadium harder or more difficult than Dolphin Stadium?
Do you think there is more pressure on a team playing in the title game in TX than FL(or OK/LA/OH/VA/AL/MS for that matter)?
I think the reason most people on this site think SLC will win is ebcause they are from TX, and the reason most people think MNW will win on FL sites is because they are from FL.
That's a little unfair, pied. I think what he was driving at is experience, overall. The experience of playing in front of anywhere from 10-50 thousand everytime you take the field. The experience in dealing with all that goes with a game that is broadcast. The experience gained by playing an extra six games a year for five years. There are many of these small, subtle nuances that will be a factor when this game is played. I think it's more than fair to point them out and not be called a homer.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 02:37 PM
What is the average attendace for a MNW game? How often does MNW play at Dolphin stadium and what were the crowds like? What was the attendence at the State Title games? I do not know and am looking for some insight.
From what I have seen, and admittedly I have only done a little bit of research on, most of the stadiums that MNW has played at do not have large capacitys and have many empty seats when the games are played. If I am wrong in this please let me know.
Thanks
MNW played Lake Brantley this past year in Dolphin Stadium. I believe there was right at 25,000 at the game which is the largest crowd in the history of 6A Title game.
I've been to Traz Stadium several times which is where many of the Dade Co. teams play at. It holds like 12,000 but it's mostly a dump. It' (Traz Stadium) is located on a community college grounds.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 02:37 PM
NW has played in big crowds and stadiums as well. 46K a couple of years back, twice in OB this past year and of course dolphins stadium. All 3 of those games were over 20 k In fact they have the largest following in the state as far as fan support. The big game atmosphere will not be a factor.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/969/O58055.jpg
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 02:38 PM
That's a little unfair, pied. I think what he was driving at is experience, overall. The experience of playing in front of anywhere from 10-50 thousand everytime you take the field. The experience in dealing with all that goes with a game that is broadcast. The experience gained by playing an extra six games a year for five years. There are many of these small, subtle nuances that will be a factor when this game is played. I think it's more than fair to point them out and not be called a homer.
Pied spends almost all of he's time wanting to call anyone on here that thinks SLC will win the game a "Texas Homer" that is Non-Objective.:rolleyes:
You think SLC will win the game.. You're just a Texas homer blah blah blah.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 02:39 PM
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Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 02:40 PM
NW has played in big crowds and stadiums as well. 46K a couple of years back, twice in OB this past year and of course dolphins stadium. All 3 of those games were over 20 k In fact they have the largest following in the state as far as fan support. The big game atmosphere will not be a factor.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/969/O58055.jpg
What game a couple of years ago had 46K at it ?
SLC93
08-01-2007, 02:42 PM
I would point to the fact that together they won the championship in the largest calssification in FL. I know some on here downplay the 6A league, and I understand the reasons for doing so.
The fact is that they beat all comers and did so in convincing fashion, something that cannot be denied. All teams in that league had the same goal and only one was able to accomplish that.
I gave them full credit for their accomplishments. I was only stating I'd like to hear a reason other than DI player totals as to why they will win.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm asking there Mr.Showdown because I lived in South Florida for 3 years and went to many games there during that time span and thought the Fan support was pretty much pathetic.
The one game I went to there that I felt like it had a Texas feel to it was the playoff game in 2005 (Hollywood Chaminade vs American Heritage) where there was about 4,000 people but the stadium was packed.
I've been to many playoff games in the Orange Bowl and Traz Stadium and it felt like I was in a tomb because 90% of the stadium was empty.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm asking there Mr.Showdown because I lived in South Florida for 3 years and went to many games there during that time span and thought the Fan support was pretty much pathetic.
The one game I went to there that I felt like it had a Texas feel to it was the playoff game in 2005 (Hollywood Chaminade vs American Heritage) where there was about 4,000 people but the stadium was packed.
I've been to many playoff games in the Orange Bowl and Traz Stadium and it felt like I was in a tomb because 90% of the stadium was empty.
4,000?? LOL. Traz Powell holds 12K and at all the games NW side is packed. Now if you look at NW highlights it may look empty because camera is facing NW's opponents side. Hell, some of the opponets fans sit on NW side. NW brings at least 3,500 to 5k to there non rival games. Yes it's Miami but fans come watch NW on Friday then go out. LOL
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:01 PM
4,000?? LOL. Traz Powell holds 12K and at all the games NW side is packed. Now if you look at NW highlights it may look empty because camera is facing NW's opponents side. Hell, some of the opponets fans sit on NW side. NW brings at least 3,500 to 5k to there non rival games. Yes it's Miami but fans come watch NW on Friday then go out. LOL
I didnt say MNW did I ?? I said that I've been to Traz Stadium many times over that three year period that I lived there in South Florida and every game that I went to there the stadium had at best about 2,000 fans "Total."
I saw BTW play there 3 times, I saw Carol City play there twice and I saw Miramar play there once. All of these games were PLAYOFF games.
I've also seen a couple of games in the Orange Bowl and there was almost no one there. One of those games was the State Semi-Final game (Carol City vs Killian) and I doubt there was more than 3,000 people there.
My point is the fan support in South Florida for most of the HS teams is almost "Zero."
Now, what MNW game a couple of years ago had 46,000 at it ? I want to hear what game that was.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:05 PM
4,000?? LOL. Traz Powell holds 12K and at all the games NW side is packed. Now if you look at NW highlights it may look empty because camera is facing NW's opponents side. Hell, some of the opponets fans sit on NW side. NW brings at least 3,500 to 5k to there non rival games. Yes it's Miami but fans come watch NW on Friday then go out. LOL
Also, the 4,000 fans was the (Hollywood Chaminade vs American Heritage) playoff game which was played at American Heritage which is located in Davie not far from the Sawgrass Mall.
American Heritage stadium holds at best about 4,000 and it was packed for that game. In fact it was overflowing and it was a good atmosphere to enjoy a High school game. I had Texas HS Friday Night flashbacks at that game.
When I go to Traz Stadium I spend 75% of my time looking over my shoulder because of all the gangs walking around the stands. That's a fact !!;)
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:06 PM
I didnt say MNW did I ?? I said that I've been to Traz Stadium many times over that three year period that I lived there in South Florida and every game that I went to there the stadium had at best about 2,000 fans "Total."
I saw BTW play there 3 times, I saw Carol City play there twice and I saw Miramar play there once. All of these games were PLAYOFF games.
I've also seen a couple of games in the Orange Bowl and there was almost no one there. One of those games was the State Semi-Final game (Carol City vs Killian) and I doubt there was more than 3,000 people there.
My point is the fan support in South Florida for most of the HS teams is almost "Zero."
Now, what MNW game a couple of years ago had 46,000 at it ? I want to hear what game that was.
NW vs Jackson when Rolle won state there in 98. Biggest game since has been 32k 2-3 years ago when they played Carol City's Willie Williams team in dolphin stadium
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:16 PM
Also, the 4,000 fans was the (Hollywood Chaminade vs American Heritage) playoff game which was played at American Heritage which is located in Davie not far from the Sawgrass Mall.
American Heritage stadium holds at best about 4,000 and it was packed for that game. In fact it was overflowing and it was a good atmosphere to enjoy a High school game. I had Texas HS Friday Night flashbacks at that game.
When I go to Traz Stadium I spend 75% of my time looking over my shoulder because of all the gangs walking around the stands. That's a fact !!;)
Are you sure gangs? Are just people with dreds?? LOL
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:22 PM
You just didn't go to the right games. Maybe you didn't want to constantly look over your shoulder! LOL. When NW play these teams you can expect a crowd over 10k everytime.
BTW
Carol City
Central
Jackson(although they suck now it's a rival)
Also any playoff game NW plays in.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:23 PM
Are you sure gangs? Are just people with dreds?? LOL
Well, they do their best to represent a "gansta" persona. I'll leave it at that ok. You know, when I'm at a game and some of the people near me spend 50% of their time throwing out "F-boms" every other word it doenst help convince me that they are the local choir boys at the local church.;)
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:25 PM
You might be right but I think you are stereotyping if someone curses ALOT and there appearance is not an approachable one to associate them with a gang. :D
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:26 PM
You just didn't go to the right games. Maybe you didn't want to constantly look over your shoulder! LOL. When NW play these teams you can expect a crowd over 10k everytime.
BTW
Carol City
Central
Jackson(although they suck now it's a rival)
Also any playoff game NW plays in.
Who is the guy that does the announcing at all of the HS games at Traz Stadium ? It's always the same dude everytime I go there so I'm guessing he does all the games at Traz.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:31 PM
You might be right but I think you are stereotyping if someone curses ALOT and there appearance is not an approachable to associate them with a gang. :D
Well, in my line of work I've spent some time traveling through Liberty City, Carol City, Opa Locka and Hialeah and there is a very large bad element in those areas "like it or not."
I try not to stereotype but trust me when someone comes around me and they spend half their time "cussing" and putting on a show in the stands for everyone to see. I call it the "Look at me syndrome" then I label them in a certain area.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:31 PM
Mr Wilcox. You said in earlier posts he's annoying but we like him. Don't know when he's gonna ever call it quits.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 03:34 PM
Mr Wilcox. You said in earlier posts he's annoying but we like him. Don't know when he's gonna ever call it quits.
I dont think the guy is a bad guy. I can tell he has been doing games at Traz Stadium for along time and no doubt he has seen many great athletes come through there.
My only complaint with him is he wants to make some "fancy comment" after every freaking play and wants to give every player on the field a nick-name after they make a play.
I've been to Traz a couple of times with friends from Oklahoma and Georgia and everyone of them has made negative comments about that guy. he would be cool if he would just call the game and leave all the fancy comments at home (IMO).
What is the average attendace for a MNW game? How often does MNW play at Dolphin stadium and what were the crowds like? What was the attendence at the State Title games? I do not know and am looking for some insight.
From what I have seen, and admittedly I have only done a little bit of research on, most of the stadiums that MNW has played at do not have large capacitys and have many empty seats when the games are played. If I am wrong in this please let me know.
Thanks
I believe the attendance for the MNW/LB game was a litle over 24 thousand. This is roughly double the SLC/WL game attendance. There were certainly factors that contributed to this.
showdownon9/15
08-01-2007, 03:41 PM
I don't know guess just a difference of opinions. It doesn't bother me the way he announces games. To me he does it his way which is a little more animated than your typical announcer. Guess because I grew up listening to him call games I'm used to it.
That's a little unfair, pied. I think what he was driving at is experience, overall. The experience of playing in front of anywhere from 10-50 thousand everytime you take the field. The experience in dealing with all that goes with a game that is broadcast. The experience gained by playing an extra six games a year for five years. There are many of these small, subtle nuances that will be a factor when this game is played. I think it's more than fair to point them out and not be called a homer.
Perhaps, but I do think some of these factors are overstaed as well.
I honestly think the players for Tatum felt as much pressure as the players for SLC/CH. It was the biggest game of their lives and meant the world.
I also do not believe that playing on Fox Fl against Lake Brantley was all that different than playinf Westlake in FSSW.
Does it help that they have done it several more times? Probably some, but I don't think it will sway the game too much. Could be wrong.
I think there are many nuances that are in the Dragon's favor, but I do think we can exagerrate them some.
Pied spends almost all of he's time wanting to call anyone on here that thinks SLC will win the game a "Texas Homer" that is Non-Objective.:rolleyes:
You think SLC will win the game.. You're just a Texas homer blah blah blah.
Not true. I just think you happen to be one.
I come to that conclusion based on your comments leading up to the REL/Colerain game, this game, and comments on DLS.
Quite honestly your comments are almost carbon copied from two summers ago.
I hope you are more correct this time.
I am also a homer, most particularly about UT. I like being one, nothing wrong with it in my opinion.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 04:16 PM
Not true. I just think you happen to be one.
I come to that conclusion based on your comments leading up to the REL/Colerain game, this game, and comments on DLS.
Quite honestly your comments are almost carbon copied from two summers ago.
I hope you are more correct this time.
I am also a homer, most particularly about UT. I like being one, nothing wrong with it in my opinion.
Ya you do.. if someone comes on here and makes any freaking comment about why they think SLC has an advantage in the game. You promptly come back with some retort in the defense of MNW and make vail comments about the Texas guy being some type of "Homer" while your just this total Mr.Objective of HS National football.
Second.. I love it that you live and die with the REL vs Colerain game. Wow, I made predictions on that game based on Tyler Lee's recent success from the first part of the 2000's and how they were making deep playoff runs every year and looked to have a good thing going. Not many people on here (not just me) could see that Tyler Lee was going to have one of there worst seasons in like 10 years. They didnt even make the freaking playoffs that year.
But, what's even better is that "ONE GAME" is your freaking claim to fame that Texasfrog doesnt know what he's talking about blah blah blah blah blah.
You casually overlook many of the game that I've called "RIGHT" over the last couple of years. Which I've been "RIGHT" more than I've been "Wrong" and I'll say that.
I love it man.. TxFrog got that Colerain game wrong so he doesnt know anything and just bash all out of State teams. The real fact is that I've given more Out of State teams more credit and respect than almost everyone on this freaking site. I guess you better stop watching all those Pre-game football shows and ect every year because those guys get it wrong like 70% of the time huh.
I've seen a HELL OF ALOT more Florida football than you've even thought about their Piedy and I've made my comments and predictions on what I've seen. I'm telling you this for like the 1,000th time so hopefully it finally sinks into that thick skull of yours.
I know that your Mr.Objective of Florida HS football because you've seen "ONE GAME" in person almost 10 years ago at Walt Disney World (Arlington Lamar vs Rutherford) and that makes you really objective but someone that has lived in South Florida (Texasfrog) and has seen many games in person is just a Texas Homer and he got the REL vs Colerain game wrong blah blah.
Again, I've made my predictions (if both teams healthy) and it's SLC= 45 MNW-21. We'll see what happens when the game is played.
I'm sure you'll just label it as a Texas "Non-objective" HOMER making some stupid non-rational comment and that's great. I'll stick with my predictions and you stick with yours. What ever that is.:rolleyes:
Ya you do.. if someone comes on here and makes any freaking comment about why they think SLC has an advantage in the game. You promptly come back with some retort in the defense of MNW and make vail comments about the Texas guy being some type of "Homer" while your just this total Mr.Objective of HS National football.
.........
I'm sure you'll just label it as a Texas "Non-objective" HOMER making some stupid non-rational comment and that's great. I'll stick with my predictions and you stick with yours. What ever that is.:rolleyes:
I think SLC has many advantages in the game. As far as the REL-Coelrain game, it was not simply the prediction it is the attitude towards any team not lucky enough to be from Texas.
The rhetoric is almost the exact same.
"Trust me I have seen (fill in the blank) play. They aren't better than(fill in the blak) number of teams in Texas"
The prediction was awesome though.
For those who missed it, here are a few of my favorites:
I can also promise you that Colerain has "NEVER" seen an offense that is a diverse as Tyler Lee's. Tyler Lee will probably come into that game with about 20 different formations with alot of motion. I hope Colerain "DC" can game plan those Colerain defensive players to adjust on the fly. They didnt have to do that against the Mckinley team.
I'm not talking smack. I'm just stating what I saw on tape and how I feel from what I saw. One's thing is for sure. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. But, from what I saw that is what I feel.
But, I have no doubt that the Ohio teams (Like I've stated 100's times) just dont play good offense. They are simple and very easy. They play some stiff defense (I'll give them that). But that defense aint that good and I know Tyler Lee can put 21 maybe even 28 on Colerain.
Your used to that " 3 yards and cloud of dust" offense that you see from 100% of the teams in OHIO. They dont even know what the spread offense is up in Ohio.
That's another reason why I think Tyler Lee is going to blow the doors off of Colerain. IF defensives arent used to seeing that type of offense its tough to get ready for it in "ONE WEEK".
Here is the ultimate to me:
I've already said it a few times and I'll say it again. I'll let the Tyler Lee boy do my talking.
I just want him to be here "LIKE A MAN" when the game is over and explain what happen. I'm sure it will be alot "last years team", "next years team" and "that player" and "those players" kind of double talk to why things happened.
This is probably after Tyler Lee puts more points on Colerain than any team has done in probably 10 years. Watch...
The sad thing is I seriously doubt that his ever seen SLC, Lufkin or any handful of so called elite Texas teams play. But, he sure has an opinion on Texas teams doesnt he....
Tyler Lee = 34
Colerain = 17
Probably worse than that..
What was that about "Not many people on here (not just me) could see that Tyler Lee was going to have one of there worst seasons in like 10 years. They didnt even make the freaking playoffs that year."
At lewast two years later you aren't doing any of that double talk you accused concha of planning....
Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Anyone who thinks SLC will beat MNW by 20+ points instantly loses all credibility on these boards. That is an arrogant, ludicrous, and out right dumb statement. No matter how well or poorly these teams play...MNW has too much D1 talent to get beaten by anyone in the nation by 20+ points. AND, don't forget...it's not just a bunch of talented kids running around cluelessly...these boys were undefeated last year and DOMINATED everyone.
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Well, I assume you haven't read some of the comments on the Florida boards. You know, stuff like; "There is no way an all white team can beat an all black team."
Or, "Northwestern will blow Carroll out by 3 and 4 touchdowns!"
If the folks on here lose credibility, then the folks from Florida should lose credibility also.
Oh, and this is my favorite one;
"Carroll ain't played nobody!"
LMAO!
SLC93
08-01-2007, 05:51 PM
Well, I assume you haven't read some of the comments on the Florida boards. You know, stuff like; "There is no way an all white team can beat an all black team."
Or, "Northwestern will blow Carroll out by 3 and 4 touchdowns!"
If the folks on here lose credibility, then the folks from Florida should lose credibility also.
Oh, and this is my favorite one;
"Carroll ain't played nobody!"
LMAO!
:D :D :D
dragonsdaddy
08-01-2007, 05:58 PM
something yogi berra once should have malapropped is going to be proven soon. it went something like "football is 90% athletes and 90% coaching".
Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-01-2007, 05:59 PM
:D :D :D
Man, it cracks me up! I mean, knowing the kinda game that the Dragons were in against Trinity, it just tickles me to death. Not to mention, the Dragons consistently hand Allen their a@@es everytime they play them in a huge playoff game, and Allen isn't a bad club at all. Beating up on a good Colleyville Heritage team twice in one year can also say alot. Not to mention, that same Heritage team that the Dragons whooped twice, was the only other team besides DeSoto and Garland High to give Cedar Hill a game.
Texasfrog
08-01-2007, 07:03 PM
I think SLC has many advantages in the game. As far as the REL-Coelrain game, it was not simply the prediction it is the attitude towards any team not lucky enough to be from Texas.
The rhetoric is almost the exact same.
"Trust me I have seen (fill in the blank) play. They aren't better than(fill in the blak) number of teams in Texas"
The prediction was awesome though.
For those who missed it, here are a few of my favorites:
Here is the ultimate to me:
What was that about "Not many people on here (not just me) could see that Tyler Lee was going to have one of there worst seasons in like 10 years. They didnt even make the freaking playoffs that year."
At lewast two years later you aren't doing any of that double talk you accused concha of planning....
Wow, the standard "MO" from a piece of S. You go through the archives of the Colerain vs REL game and pick out some post and put them all over the place and try to prove some worthless point about something.
Here is a few differences that I know a very "Objective" person like you just cant see.
1. This game aint being played in Miami or Cincinnati. It's being played in Dallas,Tx. "Ding-Ding."
2. There is big difference between SLC compared to REL. SLC has almost their entire offense coming back (one of the best in Texas history). "ding-ding."
3. SLC has a very strong program with strong feeder program."ding-ding."
4. SLC has approx 8 or 9 (D-1A) caliber senior athletes on their team. I think Tyler Lee had 1 or 2. "ding-ding."
5. I've Lived in Miami, I've never lived in Cincinnati. "Ding-Ding-Ding."
Just a few of the differences there slapnutts. Now go back into the archives and dig up somemore "post" from me. I've got almost 6,000 of them over a three year period so I'm sure you can find some that I've been wrong on.
Dont worry, I'm going to be playing that game soon also since you seem to think it's rational.;)
See ya "PIEDY THE SLAP-NUTT IDIOT." I think I'm going to make that my new sig. "PIEDY THE MR. OBJECTIVE SLAP-NUTT IDIOT."
Again.. SLC-45 MNW-21 Oh wait, REL vs Colerain blah blah blah blah.
GBMonster76
08-02-2007, 06:38 AM
Well, I assume you haven't read some of the comments on the Florida boards. You know, stuff like; "There is no way an all white team can beat an all black team."
Or, "Northwestern will blow Carroll out by 3 and 4 touchdowns!"
If the folks on here lose credibility, then the folks from Florida should lose credibility also.
Oh, and this is my favorite one;
"Carroll ain't played nobody!"
LMAO!
Well, there are idiots in all states because anyone who thinks MNW will blow out SLC is just dumb...and vice versa.
www.gririronbrotherhood.com
Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Well, there are idiots in all states because anyone who thinks MNW will blow out SLC is just dumb...and vice versa.
www.gririronbrotherhood.com
You're damn sure right about that, especially in Ohio.:eek:
SLC93
08-02-2007, 06:52 AM
Well, there are idiots in all states because anyone who thinks MNW will blow out SLC is just dumb...and vice versa.
www.gririronbrotherhood.com
Idiocy abounds!:D
SLC93
08-02-2007, 06:54 AM
You're damn sure right about that, especially in Ohio.:eek:
:eek: But they've got the Hall of Fame. :eek: :D
SLC93
08-02-2007, 07:01 AM
Question for our Florida posters or if any of you have some inside scoop. Coach Rolle agreed to run the offense that the players had been in last year as a condition of taking this job. To my knowledge, he's a run oriented coach. MNW runs a spread attack. Who is going to serve as their offensive coordinator? Is their terminology going to remain the same? Does anyone see this being an issue?
showdownon9/15
08-02-2007, 07:45 AM
Question for our Florida posters or if any of you have some inside scoop. Coach Rolle agreed to run the offense that the players had been in last year as a condition of taking this job. To my knowledge, he's a run oriented coach with a preference for the wing t. MNW runs a spread attack. Who is going to serve as their offensive coordinator? Is their terminology going to remain the same? Does anyone see this being an issue?
Rolle ran the spread when he left NW. He ran the spread at Killian but he mostly ran the ball out of the spread at Killian. He's not changing the spread offense. The offense will not be tinkered with at all as they will continue to pass like they did last year if not more. The defense will remain the same with minor adjustsments where he sees fit. Remember Coach Smith was an assistant under Rolle and learned under him. Very little will change. Coaches are picking up on the offense terminology and going from there.
KT2000
08-02-2007, 07:52 AM
Well, there are idiots in all states because anyone who thinks MNW will blow out SLC is just dumb...and vice versa.
www.gririronbrotherhood.com
I don't think you can call any prediction dumb at this point. Thank goodness for the board, this game will finally be played here before long.
Sakatha
08-02-2007, 08:22 AM
Rolle ran the spread when he left NW. He ran the spread at Killian but he mostly ran the ball out of the spread at Killian. He's not changing the spread offense. The offense will not be tinkered with at all as they will continue to pass like they did last year if not more. The defense will remain the same with minor adjustsments where he sees fit. Remember Coach Smith was an assistant under Rolle and learned under him. Very little will change. Coaches are picking up on the offense terminology and going from there.
So jump balls, 5 and 10 yard outs, and some stretch running plays...
Check.
~DnM
SLC93
08-02-2007, 08:40 AM
So jump balls, 5 and 10 yard outs, and some stretch running plays...
Check.
~DnM
:eek: :D
Wow, the standard "MO" from a piece of S. You go through the archives of the Colerain vs REL game and pick out some post and put them all over the place and try to prove some worthless point about something.
Here is a few differences that I know a very "Objective" person like you just cant see.
1. This game aint being played in Miami or Cincinnati. It's being played in Dallas,Tx. "Ding-Ding."
2. There is big difference between SLC compared to REL. SLC has almost their entire offense coming back (one of the best in Texas history). "ding-ding."
3. SLC has a very strong program with strong feeder program."ding-ding."
4. SLC has approx 8 or 9 (D-1A) caliber senior athletes on their team. I think Tyler Lee had 1 or 2. "ding-ding."
5. I've Lived in Miami, I've never lived in Cincinnati. "Ding-Ding-Ding."
Just a few of the differences there slapnutts. Now go back into the archives and dig up somemore "post" from me. I've got almost 6,000 of them over a three year period so I'm sure you can find some that I've been wrong on.
Dont worry, I'm going to be playing that game soon also since you seem to think it's rational.;)
See ya "PIEDY THE SLAP-NUTT IDIOT." I think I'm going to make that my new sig. "PIEDY THE MR. OBJECTIVE SLAP-NUTT IDIOT."
Again.. SLC-45 MNW-21 Oh wait, REL vs Colerain blah blah blah blah.
Piece of S
slapnutts
SLAP-NUTT IDIOT.
Wow.
Thought you might be interested in my prediction for the game from 3/05:
Based on no facts, voting with my heart so I am voting for Lee.
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=13086
I also had this bit of wisdom that seems to be demonstrated in your five point thesis above:
Yes, no matter who wins, there will be excuses made by both sides. That is the one certainty in this matchup. The other is that too much will be made of the outcome.
Texasfrog
08-02-2007, 08:23 PM
Piece of S
slapnutts
SLAP-NUTT IDIOT.
Wow.
Thought you might be interested in my prediction for the game from 3/05:
http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=13086
I also had this bit of wisdom that seems to be demonstrated in your five point thesis above:
Yawn.. "cough cough.. Yawn. I'm Out.;)
SLC- 45
MNW- 21
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