Churchill Beat SV

[Mad Hatter]

Hye let me have some ino on the game i still cant believe you guys lost to churchill at home wow...must of been a game wish i could have watched that game.

[sendero]

SV didn't play to their potential last night but my hats off to Churchill they did what they needed to do to win. Took care of the football and played good defense. Churchill looked like they were very up for this game.

SV didn't do the things we normally do like points off turnovers and kicking game change of momemtum.

[bullrock]

I know it hurts right now, but it's not the end of the world. I sure do feel sorry for us next week though!

[RedRage00]

Way to go Chargers!

RR

[Reaganrattler07]

SV didn't play to their potential last night

This game wasn't moved from Saturday was it? If not this has been scheduled for months. If you don't come to play, then why are you playing?

This'll make district a little bit more interesting.

[SVite]

Chargers did what they needed to do to win.They have some big guys on this team.SV had like 4-5 real bone head moves that killed us on offense.If that can be ironed out,we`ll be fine.

[J-ROCKSTUD79]

All i can say is wow.i would have never though that SV would lose to churchill at SV :eek: .Churchill who has lost 2 games already to clark and marshall.but thats shows all of us that on any given friday anything can happen.i think this mixes things up for dist.26 5a cause both power houses are not undefeated.This friday at ROCKET Stadiam is gonna be a show down between to good teams.I can assure yall this.that the rockets are gonna G.A.T.A for 48 min.

[zippy]

SV played terrible in the first half on D, if you look at the 2nd half, they got it going, just too late. They held them to 0 in the second half, and the O got 10 up on the board. When you turn the ball over 3 times in the first half, and go 3 and out when you have it, you cant win. Dont forget people, SV lost 2 games last year, and went on to almost win a state title against the #1 team in the nation. No big deal, I am glad they got beat, this will only help them.

[drgnbkr]

It seems like you guys lose a game or 2 each year but it all turns out ok...

[Reaganrattler07]

It seems like you guys lose a game or 2 each year but it all turns out ok...

Not in district though.

[Biggems]

SV sucks..........Judson will win the game this week..........Rockets will show their ownage of the Smithson Valley Racists......

[drgnbkr]

SV sucks..........Judson will win the game this week..........Rockets will show their ownage of the Smithson Valley Racists......

Wow...is your keyboard smoking?

[Reaganrattler07]

Wow...is your keyboard smoking?

Something is....dude, calm down.

[lonny23]

Have you guys ever noticed that these type of responses are almost always the first one out of the box for a particular screen name?

[lonny23]

I know it hurts right now, but it's not the end of the world. I sure do feel sorry for us next week though!
I don't think they'll play any better after the loss. SV is a well-prepared team. They either have it to win or not. Losing does not make them harder to beat and unlike Madison, it doesn't make it easier.

[Reaganrattler07]

Have you guys ever noticed that these type of responses are almost always the first one out of the box for a particular screen name?

I've noticed some newbs come on talking trash.....

[Biggems]

yep newbs get on my nerves...

ROCKET PRIDE

[myround0]

I've noticed some newbs come on talking trash.....

Amazing...so Judson's loss to Cove won't make Judson better...I think Judson who smashed a team last night has a lot of pride and the same can be said for SV...I don't think SV is a great team to start with, but I know they will come gunning for the Rockets...Cove beating Judson is why you seenn and will continue to see a focus team on the field from now on when the Rockets play...Judson played some second teamers last night in their victory and a lot of that beating they handed out last night was because of Cove shocking a very good program...Losing makes a powerhouse teams focus...This is going to be a barnburner of a game and I think Judson will prove to have too much speed for the stronger SV team...Judson by 10

[Reaganrattler07]

Amazing...so Judson's loss to Cove won't make Judson better...I think Judson who smashed a team last night has a lot of pride and the same can be said for SV...I don't think SV is a great team to start with, but I know they will come gunning for the Rockets...Cove beating Judson is why you seenn and will continue to see a focus team on the field from now on when the Rockets play...Judson played some second teamers last night in their victory and a lot of that beating they handed out last night was because of Cove shocking a very good program...Losing makes a powerhouse teams focus...This is going to be a barnburner of a game and I think Judson will prove to have too much speed for the stronger SV team...Judson by 10

Teams normally come off a loss with a strong determination to win.

[Biggems]

BTW I am just messing around......I have noticed the SV fans crying about not getting any respect and about being listed behind Judson at the start of the season.....Be a top team in the state for over 2 decades like Judson and then you will get your respect....losing to Churchill wont win you any respect....they are at a down time right now.

Sure you have gone far in the playoffs the last few years, but how many trophies are in your trophy case?

[Biggems]

Judson should be undefeated. Their defense, usually the strength of the team, really let them down in the final moments of that Cove game.

[lonny23]

yep newbs get on my nerves...

ROCKET PRIDE
They were talking about you! :D

[Reaganrattler07]

BTW I am just messing around......I have noticed the SV fans crying about not getting any respect and about being listed behind Judson at the start of the season.....Be a top team in the state for over 2 decades like Judson and then you will get your respect....losing to Churchill wont win you any respect....they are at a down time right now.

Sure you have gone far in the playoffs the last few years, but how many trophies are in your trophy case?

Yeah, I can understand you don't like SV, i forgot that iwas against you all last year. Judson is a good team, I have a lot of respect for them. Is it true they kneed it at like the Lee 8 when they had an opportunity to score?

[Biggems]

lonny i know this........that is why i made the post....i am mocking their self righteous posts....

btw i have been reading these boards for a long time.....and i could have sworn i have posted here before....

[Slim-Rob]

Judson should be undefeated. Their defense, usually the strength of the team, really let them down in the final moments of that Cove game.

You can't blame the whole game on the defense. I was at the game, and the D was very strong. The offense didn't do much of anything good, and there was a missed FG and 2 missed PATs. The defense did kinda fail at the end, but Cove only had to go 50 yards because the offense didn't drive anywhere.

[Biggems]

Possibly....that is the one thing about Judson....Rutledge and now Rackley call off the dogs when the game is out of hand.

I remember when Jerod was there. He needed either 68 or 38 yards to get 3000 for the season. However, the championship game was a blowout. Jerod never saw the field again. Judson had like 2 or 3 more possessions that game.

[Biggems]

i agree that the offense wasnt doing well that game...and the missed kicks really hurt. However, when you have to keep the opponent out of the endzone to win the game in the final 1:16, and your strength as a team is the defense, then it is disheartening that they give up the TD......

I wasnt at the game. I listened to it on the radio.

[Slim-Rob]

Yeah, I can understand you don't like SV, i forgot that iwas against you all last year. Judson is a good team, I have a lot of respect for them. Is it true they kneed it at like the Lee 8 when they had an opportunity to score?

yes, they kneed it. We kicked off and no one from Lee went after the ball. Our guy recovered it at the 8, and we just took a knee. I dare anyone to say anything about running up the score....

[Biggems]

I bet SLC would have passed it in for a TD

[Reaganrattler07]

yes, they kneed it. We kicked off and no one from Lee went after the ball. Our guy recovered it at the 8, and we just took a knee. I dare anyone to say anything about running up the score....

yeah, i just wanted to confirm it....very honorbale thing to do. Another thing i like is how they just keep the clock running in the second. Rackley seems like a good coach as well...saw him on the news the other day. Very enthusiastic...and compliments his opponents nicely.

[Reaganrattler07]

I bet SLC would have passed it in for a TD

Nah, maybe Macarthur or well...I'll stop there.

[drgnbkr]

I bet SLC would have passed it in for a TD

You ever seen a Carroll game bigun? You seem to have the Dragons all figured out... :rolleyes:

[Bucky]

I bet SLC would have passed it in for a TD


I dont know Coach Dodge..but I doubt that he would do that. I know this that if Judson is gonna play football..they are gonna play it one way. If the score is 72 -0 in the 3rd qtr..Judson will have their 3rd string in and thje 3rd string will be trying to score. they are only coached one way..some people consider that running up the score..But if you cant stop their 3rd string you need to do a better job coaching your team..

[svrangerfan]

I can't believe we lost to Churchill. I knew we would have to eliminate the mistakes we made against Temple but I thought we would. I think the Judson game will be a good one. If Hill did not have their attention before he has it now. Not predicting a win against coju but just a hard fought game. Maybe Zippy is right in that this was the best thing that could happen to SV but I sure would have rather lost to Pflugerville than Churchill. If we start 0-2 in district there is obviously no room for error the rest of the way. They have to act now as if the Judson game is their season.

[drgnbkr]

I dont know Coach Dodge..but I doubt that he would do that. I know this that if Judson is gonna play football..they are gonna play it one way. If the score is 72 -0 in the 3rd qtr..Judson will have their 3rd string in and thje 3rd string will be trying to score. they are only coached one way..some people consider that running up the score..But if you cant stop their 3rd string you need to do a better job coaching your team..

Carroll took a knee for half of the 4th qtr vs. Fridge, Friday night out of respect for his good friend Coach Wasson of Fossill Ridge...it could have easily been in the 70's.

[dragons08]

I've noticed some newbs come on talking trash.....
seems to be a lot of "drive bys", the KT bro's usually fix things, as in ban them or delete the posts with dumb comments, mostly drive by posts..

[drgnbkr]

seems to be a lot of "drive bys", the KT bro's usually fix things, as in ban them or delete the posts with dumb comments, mostly drive by posts..

It's alright..they open their mouth and ignorance gushes out..they can't help themselves..

[mad_fan]

I don't think they'll play any better after the loss. SV is a well-prepared team. They either have it to win or not. Losing does not make them harder to beat and unlike Madison, it doesn't make it easier.

OUCH! Dont make me come over there...where ever there is...

[bubbacoach]

Losing is never the best thing that could happen to a team. How could anyone think this. It will get us refocussed. It taught us a lesson. It helped the coach get the players attention. That is all BS, it is a way for a bunch of fans/player wanna be's to justify the loss. A loss is a loss. It will bring self doubt and uncertainty into the minds of the players and fans and make it that much harder for them to believe the next time in a tight game.

[drgnbkr]

Your right, but losing 3 games did'nt keep SV from getting to the Championship Game last year..maybe it did'nt help them get over the hump though.....

[TexasRed6x]

I agree with Bubba, losinig brings doubt and you don't need that when you are preparing to play Judson, which feeds off of the other teams doubt.

[zippy]

Your wrong when it comes to a good team like SV with a great coach. DID YOU NOT SEE LAST YEARS RECORD? AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE EARLY LOSSes? Ok then figure that out and get back to me. It was because of this that SV turned things around. The whole season was heart not talent. They did not want to go down as the SV team that didnt make it to state, and the early loss to Pfuger and Judson helped them out a ton.


Losing is never the best thing that could happen to a team. How could anyone think this. It will get us refocussed. It taught us a lesson. It helped the coach get the players attention. That is all BS, it is a way for a bunch of fans/player wanna be's to justify the loss. A loss is a loss. It will bring self doubt and uncertainty into the minds of the players and fans and make it that much harder for them to believe the next time in a tight game.

[TexasRed6x]

Zip - different time different situation. SV did not lose to Churchill last year and even you know that if and still a if they loose to Judson you know that it changes things, you should be smart enough to realize that.

[bubbacoach]

Zip, you gotta realize that each loss must be taken into context. The three SV losses last year Phlugerville at SV, Judson at SV, and SLC at the Alamodome were probably the three most athletic teams SV faced last year. They beat the teams they should have beaten and lost to three quality teams. Losing to Churchill does not fit in this category. Churchill is average at best in 26-5A and state wide they are the same. You cannot compare the loss to CHurchill to last years losses.

[sendero]

If I'm not mistaken this was SV first loss to a NEISD team since going 5A? I'm going off memory here but can't recall them losing to NEISD since Roosevelt beat them in 4A.

[zippy]

Well, think what you guys want, yes it was different teams last year. Just wait and see what happens. It WAS good to lose to this team. Its no like they were outplayed, they beat themselves. The second half they fixed some of the problems and managed to outscore them 10-0. When you fumble on the 1 foot line, and throw an interception in the redzone, and have several snaps over the QB's head, you are going to lose no matter what. SV was also missing the best LB they have, which made a difference. If they dont fix these things, they will be lucky to make the playoffs I KNOW, however if they do, they will be just fine, like last year. They did beat Pflugerville this year

[bubbacoach]

Zippy, you must be in the band. The luck you have is created through hard work and effort. The mistakes yoo make are due to the lack of concentration and preparation.

[TexasRed6x]

Zip - all are nice excuses and you can what if this to death, didn't get off to a good start, Lb did not play, Fumbled allot, missing key passes. This happenes to all teams and it is still a game you did not win. I know all of SV knows that they do not match up speed wise with Judson, again it will be a good game, but please leave all the what if's and shouldha's out of this.

[zippy]

LOL, you guys, I dont have to stand up for SV and what they did or didnt do. Everyone that knows anything about these two teams, knows SV is the better team. They have a better defense than anyone in the area, and they will be fine. Just need to fix some problems on offense. I dont have to justify this, they will. If you were not at the game I guess you would not know that everything I said was true. Its just one of those deals. If they beat Judson, what will be said then? That they still are no good because they lost to Church? Whatever, Im done, they got beat, should have won, and they will get a chance to fix it next week. No big deal.

[Mad Hatter]

Zip....losing a district game in 26 - 5a is never a good thing expecially your first game. If judson does beat smithson valley then u start 0 - 2 in district. If that is the case u are probably not going to the playoffs. I cant think of a team to ever go 0 - 2 in 26-5a and make the playoffs.

[mad_fan]

Zip....losing a district game in 26 - 5a is never a good thing expecially your first game. If judson does beat smithson valley then u start 0 - 2 in district. If that is the case u are probably not going to the playoffs. I cant think of a team to ever go 0 - 2 in 26-5a and make the playoffs.

judson

[Mad Hatter]

when ? i dont think judson has ever survived going 0 - 2 and making playoffs

[mad_fan]

when ? i dont think judson has ever survived going 0 - 2 and making playoffs

1997 Churchill and New Braunfels is what I was thinking.

[lonny23]

Nah, maybe Macarthur or well...I'll stop there.
Wrong M word. I think it was some former President or something. My mind is failing me right now! ;)

[clemensbuff]

LOL, you guys, I dont have to stand up for SV and what they did or didnt do. Everyone that knows anything about these two teams, knows SV is the better team. They have a better defense than anyone in the area, and they will be fine. Just need to fix some problems on offense. I dont have to justify this, they will. If you were not at the game I guess you would not know that everything I said was true. Its just one of those deals. If they beat Judson, what will be said then? That they still are no good because they lost to Church? Whatever, Im done, they got beat, should have won, and they will get a chance to fix it next week. No big deal.

So Zippy, the best defense in the whole area? I beg to differ on that one! Also, you said that they should have won the game in an earlier post you made. I listened to the entire game and read the stats in the paper the next morning and I'm pretty sure that Churchill had more first downs and more yards! I would say that it was a real evenly played game and that Churchill just wanted it a little more, and fought to get it.

I'll say this, I would have bet a weeks salary that SV was going to win this game. It just shows how competitive 26-5a really is. If you don't come with your best game every week, even one of the best teams in the district can loose!

You are exactly right when you say they will get a chance to fix it this week. But, fixing it will be beating the Rockets in Converse and they will be a whole lot tougher than stopping a good QB like SV did in the second half.

As for your last sentence "no big deal", I couldn't disagree more. Clemens started out 0-2 in 2002 and it probably cost us one heck of a playoff run that year. Judson won state in Div 1 and we gave them all the could take that year eventually losing 14-13 because of mistakes like you are talking about. Fumbles, interceptions, and missing an extra point. I still beleive that SV will make the playoffs this year, but if they lose to Judson, it will take a little help from the rest of the district.

[Reaganrattler07]

Wrong M word. I think it was some former President or something. My mind is failing me right now! ;)

Haha, you must not like them a lot....didn't they beat you all a few years ago like 60-30? or somethin' like that?

[mad_fan]

Wrong M word. I think it was some former President or something. My mind is failing me right now! ;)

Where's Monroe?

Can't we all just get along? :D

[mad_fan]

Haha, you must not like them a lot....didn't they beat you all a few years ago like 60-30? or somethin' like that?


I think we beat them in 1999, 2001, 2003 and 2005. :D

[Reaganrattler07]

I think we beat them in 1999, 2001, 2003 and 2005. :D

And y'all have how many State trophies? :D

[lonny23]

I think we beat them in 1999, 2001, 2003 and 2005. :D
I think you need to get a new job, Miss Cleo. :p Stick to the past and stop guessing the future. I only wish I could be there for another Judson victory this year.

[mad_fan]

I think you need to get a new job, Miss Cleo. :p Stick to the past and stop guessing the future. I only wish I could be there for another Judson victory this year.

what a way that will be to sent off another one of the green boys...and i agree lonny that was a bad deal in 2003 and i hope tony doesnt run the score up this year.

[zippy]

Well, I do think SV has the best D in the area, but thats my opinion. Preseason they were ranked the best D in the state. Last year they DID have the best D in the state. But this is this year, I do know the have the fastest overall, and in years past that seems to be better than size alone. Like I said, unless you were there and are familiar with SV football, you would not know that they should have won the game. Teams always have more first downs, and yards than SV, look at last years stats on the Clark game and SV won that 48-20. Your right about SV not making the playoffs, and if they dont beat Judson, they dont desreve to be there IMO. I just hope everyone overlooks them, thats when they do their best. Two early TD's that should not have happened were the difference in this game. Its over and too late to fix that. They just need to go out and beat Judson, and thats possible. Then win out the rest of the season and make it to state again. That is SV's plan, we will see what happens. I am not writing them off, but everyone else, feel free to do so.

So Zippy, the best defense in the whole area? I beg to differ on that one! Also, you said that they should have won the game in an earlier post you made. I listened to the entire game and read the stats in the paper the next morning and I'm pretty sure that Churchill had more first downs and more yards! I would say that it was a real evenly played game and that Churchill just wanted it a little more, and fought to get it.

I'll say this, I would have bet a weeks salary that SV was going to win this game. It just shows how competitive 26-5a really is. If you don't come with your best game every week, even one of the best teams in the district can loose!

You are exactly right when you say they will get a chance to fix it this week. But, fixing it will be beating the Rockets in Converse and they will be a whole lot tougher than stopping a good QB like SV did in the second half.

As for your last sentence "no big deal", I couldn't disagree more. Clemens started out 0-2 in 2002 and it probably cost us one heck of a playoff run that year. Judson won state in Div 1 and we gave them all the could take that year eventually losing 14-13 because of mistakes like you are talking about. Fumbles, interceptions, and missing an extra point. I still beleive that SV will make the playoffs this year, but if they lose to Judson, it will take a little help from the rest of the district.

[clemensbuff]

Well, I do think SV has the best D in the area, but thats my opinion. Preseason they were ranked the best D in the state. Last year they DID have the best D in the state. But this is this year, I do know the have the fastest overall, and in years past that seems to be better than size alone. Like I said, unless you were there and are familiar with SV football, you would not know that they should have won the game. Teams always have more first downs, and yards than SV, look at last years stats on the Clark game and SV won that 48-20. Your right about SV not making the playoffs, and if they dont beat Judson, they dont desreve to be there IMO. I just hope everyone overlooks them, thats when they do their best. Two early TD's that should not have happened were the difference in this game. Its over and too late to fix that. They just need to go out and beat Judson, and thats possible. Then win out the rest of the season and make it to state again. That is SV's plan, we will see what happens. I am not writing them off, but everyone else, feel free to do so.

I don't think that if SV loses to Judson they are done. However, I do think it could be out of their hands if they start 0-2. Not having control of your own destiny stinks because anything can happen and the coaches or kids can't do a thing about it! Another thing, I never said and never will that SV won't deserve to be in the playoffs. Any team can have a bad game or two! I would hate to see SV not make the playoffs this year.

I would say that SVs defense is very good and really well coached! The kids play their individual positions as they should and make very few mistakes. But do you really believe that SV has the fastest overall defense of anyone? If you are talking athlete to athlete, I'd say you are very biased on your opinion. There is no way that man for man SV is faster than Judson or Clemens, much less the entire state!

I honestly beleive that the reason SV has had problems with Clemens and Judson in the past is because of our speed advantage. Trust me, I'm not saying that SVs kids are slow by any means and I will always say that they have a very good defense.

[lonny23]

I don't think that if SV loses to Judson they are done. However, I do think it could be out of their hands if they start 0-2. Not having control of your own destiny stinks because anything can happen and the coaches or kids can't do a thing about it! Another thing, I never said and never will that SV won't deserve to be in the playoffs. Any team can have a bad game or two! I would hate to see SV not make the playoffs this year.

I would say that SVs defense is very good and really well coached! The kids play their individual positions as they should and make very few mistakes. But do you really believe that SV has the fastest overall defense of anyone? If you are talking athlete to athlete, I'd say you are very biased on your opinion. There is no way that man for man SV is faster than Judson or Clemens, much less the entire state!

I honestly beleive that the reason SV has had problems with Clemens and Judson in the past is because of our speed advantage. Trust me, I'm not saying that SVs kids are slow by any means and I will always say that they have a very good defense.
I have to agree with you on that one. Judson and SV lose most of their games because the other team has better athletes. Cove fans, I'm not saying that's the case with your game this year!

[zippy]

Im done with all the rest, but as for the Defense, your not getting what I am saying. AS A WHOLE, there few as fast as SV, or as quick. Talking about the D-Line that is. Of course there are DB's out there that are faster than SV, but there are very few if any that are faster and smarter than the likes of Sendejo. As a team, SV has a very quick, and strong D that is just in a slump, if thats what you want to call it. The first team D have given up only 10 points per game average in 4 games, not bad if you ask me. 21 of those points were from Pflugerville who has a very good offense, and 7 in last Fridays game were due to offensive problem, not Defense ie. TD from interception. All and all you could not ask for a better performance from your D. I did not even mention the TD's due to the defense.


I don't think that if SV loses to Judson they are done. However, I do think it could be out of their hands if they start 0-2. Not having control of your own destiny stinks because anything can happen and the coaches or kids can't do a thing about it! Another thing, I never said and never will that SV won't deserve to be in the playoffs. Any team can have a bad game or two! I would hate to see SV not make the playoffs this year.

I would say that SVs defense is very good and really well coached! The kids play their individual positions as they should and make very few mistakes. But do you really believe that SV has the fastest overall defense of anyone? If you are talking athlete to athlete, I'd say you are very biased on your opinion. There is no way that man for man SV is faster than Judson or Clemens, much less the entire state!

I honestly beleive that the reason SV has had problems with Clemens and Judson in the past is because of our speed advantage. Trust me, I'm not saying that SVs kids are slow by any means and I will always say that they have a very good defense.

[Mad Hatter]

hmm i remember me posting that fanuzzzi was Sa's best athlete...yes best better then james henrey sorry buff fans. I also remeber syaing that come district he was going to make some noise. :D

go me :)

[clemensbuff]

hmm i remember me posting that fanuzzzi was Sa's best athlete...yes best better then james henrey sorry buff fans. I also remeber syaing that come district he was going to make some noise. :D

go me :)


I saw the highlights from his runs against SV and he looked really impressive, especially for a Junior! But to say he is better than Henry is a pretty bold statement. Henry is 6-1 210lbs with sprinters speed. Remember this, Henry is not going to play running back in college. He will be a D-Back! I don't think that Fanuzzi is as fast or as strong as Henry!

[sendero]

Remember as well that Fanuzzi should be a Senior so to make an accurate comparison it is Henry vs. Fanuzzi this year.

[Mad Hatter]

Henrey never came off a torn Acl oh and hes not 6 -4 oh and he cant pass either. Fanuzzi was a running back as a freshmen and will probably play receiver in college. As far as sprinters speed goes lol hes listed at a 4.4 henrey is listed at a 4.5.

[clemensbuff]

Henrey never came off a torn Acl oh and hes not 6 -4 oh and he cant pass either. Fanuzzi was a running back as a freshmen and will probably play receiver in college. As far as sprinters speed goes lol hes listed at a 4.4 henrey is listed at a 4.5.

I don't care what he's listed at. A coach can list a kid anywhere they want to! Besides, speed with full gear on vs without is a whole other ball game. Plus, what does he weigh, like 175? He doesn't look like he has much meat on his bones to me!

I would bet that if they ran either a 40 or 100 with gear on, Henry would smoke him! If they went head to head, Henry would crush him!

We might just get our wish if they both end up in the Big 12, Fanuzzi at wide reciever and Henry at Safety. Oh, and if and when they do meet, I bet you Henry knocks the snot out of him!

[4down]

Isn't Clemens' D giving up an average of roughly half of SV's D?

[Mad Hatter]

no clemens d is like best in the state i think but u can ealiy do that when u play highlands lol

anywyas fanuzzi is 200 kid know the facts.

[clemensbuff]

Isn't Clemens' D giving up an average of roughly half of SV's D?

Less than 1/2! But only a couple of games really count as the other three were against pretty weak teams.

Clemens 21 Waco 0
Clemens 15 Roosevelt 3
Clemens 44 Taylor 6
Clemens 30 Austin SFA 7
Clemens 62 SA Highlands 10

Like I've been saying since week 0, if our offense improves throughout the season, it could be a great year!

[Mad Hatter]

level of competition is a big factor as well though.... JUst give the ball the henrey

[clemensbuff]

no clemens d is like best in the state i think but u can ealiy do that when u play highlands lol

anywyas fanuzzi is 200 kid know the facts.

Waco didn't score on us and Roosevelt only got 3, and that three was set up with a 1st and 10 at our 30 by a blocked punt.

By the way, Highlands points also were set up off of two turnovers deep on our end of the field!

Didn't Laredo Nixon score on Judson's D a couple of times??

[lonny23]

Waco didn't score on us and Roosevelt only got 3, and that three was set up with a 1st and 10 at our 30 by a blocked punt.

By the way, Highlands points also were set up off of two turnovers deep on our end of the field!

Didn't Laredo Nixon score on Judson's D a couple of times??
Nixon scored on 3rd stringers.

[lonny23]

Waco didn't score on us and Roosevelt only got 3, and that three was set up with a 1st and 10 at our 30 by a blocked punt.

By the way, Highlands points also were set up off of two turnovers deep on our end of the field!

Didn't Laredo Nixon score on Judson's D a couple of times??
Waco is not a legitimate team this year and Roosevelt is good for a 30 point beating at Judson's hands. Austin High, Highlands, and Taylor are nothing. Clemens really hasn't played ANYBODY. They are a good team, but that's the facts Jack!

[clemensbuff]

Waco is not a legitimate team this year and Roosevelt is good for a 30 point beating at Judson's hands. Austin High, Highlands, and Taylor are nothing. Clemens really hasn't played ANYBODY. They are a good team, but that's the facts Jack!

I'll remeber that you said a 30 point beating against Roosevelt if it doesn't happen. Roosevelt is a decent team and should have beaten Madison the other night had it not been for the almighty turnover.

[Mad Hatter]

hmm i think it will come down to seguin and clemens again...seguin should have won last year but what ever....maybe they will get it this year.

[clemensbuff]

Nixon scored on 3rd stringers.

I could of sworn that they had scored early in the game, but maybe I'm wrong? Either way, I'd put Clemens defense against any in the region this year! They have size and speed this year and are every bit as good as the 2003 defense that made it to the semi-final round.

[clemensbuff]

hmm i think it will come down to seguin and clemens again...seguin should have won last year but what ever....maybe they will get it this year.

How exactly do you figure that Seguin should have won last year? We went into their place and played a tough game against a pretty good team at their place and won the game and the district title. What makes you make such an off the wall comment like that anyway?

[TexasRed6x]

How exactly do you figure that Seguin should have won last year? We went into their place and played a tough game against a pretty good team at their place and won the game and the district title. What makes you make such an off the wall comment like that anyway?

Here is the scoop, Clemens is a very good team that plays in a very weak district. Clemens has not played anyone with the calibur of competition that SV and Judson has played so far. I cannot count Waco because they have yet to win a game. Roosevelt is not that good either and that just being honest as I can. The issue with Clemens is that they will and are going to beat all the teams in district pretty bad, and again that is just being honest, but when they get to bi-district and they say play Judson which team would you say has had to play week end and wek out to just get out of district. So if it is Judson, Clemens does not scare them as they have already played 3 to possibly 4 teams that have been in the top 25 in the state. That my friend is why Judson will beat Clemens again this year if they meet in the playoffs.

[blackcat]

Catching up on the Fanuzzi vs. Henry debate. I think is a pretty close comparison, they are both game changers but I do agree Fanuzzi does do it against tougher competition in 26-5a (ex:SV this past weekend he was 1 man show). We all know about how great Henry is but the fact is Fanuzzi is still a Jr. coming off of a torn ACL, running a 4.4 forty (maybe 4.5) and is 6-4, 205 lbs. Pretty impressive! --Also, I'm sure some schools might like him as a WR, but word is he's getting heavy looks as a dual threat QB for college.

[clemensbuff]

Here is the scoop, Clemens is a very good team that plays in a very weak district. Clemens has not played anyone with the calibur of competition that SV and Judson has played so far. I cannot count Waco because they have yet to win a game. Roosevelt is not that good either and that just being honest as I can. The issue with Clemens is that they will and are going to beat all the teams in district pretty bad, and again that is just being honest, but when they get to bi-district and they say play Judson which team would you say has had to play week end and wek out to just get out of district. So if it is Judson, Clemens does not scare them as they have already played 3 to possibly 4 teams that have been in the top 25 in the state. That my friend is why Judson will beat Clemens again this year if they meet in the playoffs.

I agree with your statement about the week district except for Seguin and SM. The rest of the district is very weak indeed. But, SM has already beaten Madison this year. Roosevelt gave Madison all they wanted and more this past week and should have won the game! I also agree that both SV and Judson have played a couple of tough teams this year. But Judson has also played a couple of easy ones in Lee and Laredo Nixon.

As far as Judson's competition I totally agree with what you say and have said the exact same thing in several threads. 26-5a is extemely competitive and whoever makes it out is playoff ready because more than likely they have already played several playoff games in district!

By the way, I'll let the cat out of the bag right now. ClEMENS WILL BE DIV 2 this year and not be playing Judson. To be perfectly honest with you, I'd rather Clemens play Judson than SV in the playoffs! I'll give you two reasons why. 1) I feel Clemens matches up with Judson better than they will against SV. 2) The Clemens players remember the A-- whoopin that Judson gave them in round 1 last year!

In closing I'll say this. If Clemens had their choice they would be in 26-5a and fighting every week for a playoff spot and getting playoff ready, but we don't. You play where the UIL puts you! So, I Ferrara will not worry about what people will say about running up the score on people and will play the starters a minimum of 3 quarters in every game. I don't think that this is the same as fighting it out for 4 quarters against top-notched apponents every week, but at least they will be somewhat in game-shape when the playoffs do start!

[clemensbuff]

Catching up on the Fanuzzi vs. Henry debate. I think is a pretty close comparison, they are both game changers but I do agree Fanuzzi does do it against tougher competition in 26-5a (ex:SV this past weekend he was 1 man show). We all know about how great Henry is but the fact is Fanuzzi is still a Jr. coming off of a torn ACL, running a 4.4 forty (maybe 4.5) and is 6-4, 205 lbs. Pretty impressive! --Also, I'm sure some schools might like him as a WR, but word is he's getting heavy looks as a dual threat QB for college.

I totally agree with the tougher competition part. However, let's see how he does the rest of the year. I want to see if he can do this for his team every week. One time against a very good SV team doesn't make him the greatest of all time. I don't remember reading or hearing of any other outstanding games he has had yet! Like I said before about the speed issue, I'd like to see them line up against one another in full pads to see who is faster! I know this from watching Henry since he was a sophomore, once he's in the open, he's not getting caught! I've seen him run right past guys who had the angle on him making them look pretty stupid! I hope that Fanuzzi can keep it up and take Churchill to the playoffs. It's going to be interesting to see in the next few weeks.

[SeguinMatadors]

How exactly do you figure that Seguin should have won last year? We went into their place and played a tough game against a pretty good team at their place and won the game and the district title. What makes you make such an off the wall comment like that anyway?


Yeah, I was at the game and I have to agree with Buff. The better team won that game. It was pretty evenly matched but Henry was the difference.

[sendero]

"By the way, I'll let the cat out of the bag right now. ClEMENS WILL BE DIV 2 this year and not be playing Judson." by Clemensbuff.

Are you saying SA Southwest will beat either SM or Seguin out for a playoff spot? The last search I did showed Clemens as the second largest school in 25-5A.

[clemensbuff]

"By the way, I'll let the cat out of the bag right now. ClEMENS WILL BE DIV 2 this year and not be playing Judson." by Clemensbuff.

Are you saying SA Southwest will beat either SM or Seguin out for a playoff spot? The last search I did showed Clemens as the second largest school in 25-5A.

NO! I'm saying Clemens filed a petition with the UIL before the school year started because our new HS (Steele) opened this fall and took apprx 800 students from Clemens. This left Clemens with an enrollment of apprx 1600 this year. We are actually by the numbers the smallest school in the district this year and probably one of the smallest 5a schools in the state!

[sendero]

You would be the smallest 5A by far with the cutoff for 5A at 1925. Has the district heard back from the UIL?

[DiamondJ2]

If UIL passes the petition, then Clemens should be Div II, but UIL usually goes with the October enrollment from the previous October. Next year, Judson will have an enrollment near 3000 which if they stay in 26-5A, they could possibly be in Div II with Reagan & maybe Madison having larger enrollments.

[Reaganrattler07]

If UIL passes the petition, then Clemens should be Div II, but UIL usually goes with the October enrollment from the previous October. Next year, Judson will have an enrollment near 3000 which if they stay in 26-5A, they could possibly be in Div II with Reagan & maybe Madison having larger enrollments.

Reagan's got 3,300(?)ish people...Madison is under 3000 last I heard... But Judson would most likely be the biggest team that would reach the playoffs...I hope Reagan does, but i don't see it happening.

[sendero]

I would bet that UIL rules with the October figure as well since Steele is not playing varsity athletics. Of course according to the UIL rules the only time a new school can enter varsity athletics is in even number years. Of course the UIL does what the UIL wants to do. They are probably looking at that 15% gate revenue for the Judson-Clemens rematch :eek:

[SeguinMatadors]

NO! I'm saying Clemens filed a petition with the UIL before the school year started because our new HS (Steele) opened this fall and took apprx 800 students from Clemens. This left Clemens with an enrollment of apprx 1600 this year. We are actually by the numbers the smallest school in the district this year and probably one of the smallest 5a schools in the state!

Wait, so if this happens.. Seguin will be D1 and play Judson?

[BandidoNB]

I really doubt that Clemens gets their petition accepted. Even if their enrollment is about 1600 right now, Im sure that all of the junior and senior classes had the option of staying and playing in Clemens HS, so technically they still have the enrollment pool for their football team of their former 2.400 student enrollment. Now if Steele HS had completely taken all students in 11 & 12 and fielded their own varsity team this year, then YES ABSOLUTELY, put Clemens in D2!!! But naw, I dont see it happening.

[lonny23]

Wait, so if this happens.. Seguin will be D1 and play Judson?
Then we can make up for that basketball upset this year. I still can't believe Seguin beat Judson in basketball.

[lonny23]

I would bet that UIL rules with the October figure as well since Steele is not playing varsity athletics. Of course according to the UIL rules the only time a new school can enter varsity athletics is in even number years. Of course the UIL does what the UIL wants to do. They are probably looking at that 15% gate revenue for the Judson-Clemens rematch :eek:
I was disappointed with the crowd last year. We knew all year the 2 teams would play and then the crowd was low. Maybe they wanted to watch the Spurs who had a home game that night.

[clemensbuff]

You would be the smallest 5A by far with the cutoff for 5A at 1925. Has the district heard back from the UIL?

The word is that we will be Div 2. This information is coming from a really good source and I'll leave it at that. Like several of the other posts here have said, who in the heck knows what the UIL will do with anything they get their hands on!

I personally don't think it matters all that much which div we go because I truly believe that each div has their share of great teams. In other words, to get to the title game you have to beat some really great teams in either division!

[clemensbuff]

They are probably looking at that 15% gate revenue for the Judson-Clemens rematch :eek:

Isn't that the truth. If the playoff games are at the Alamo Dome they'd probably only get about $100.00! Two years ago when Clemens and SV battled there, both SV and Clemens had the lower half filled all the way around to the end zones and the "estimated attendance" was something like 8,500. What a joke! If there was not 15,000 than there was 0. Explain to me how you can have an estimated croud when you file through gate counters as you enter? The reason is that they sell a heck of a lot of tickets at the gate at $8.00 a pop or so and if they show those sales (number of people in the stands minus ticket sales at both schools) they cannot keep the money for themselves!! Think about that.

[Reaganrattler07]

Then we can make up for that basketball upset this year. I still can't believe Seguin beat Judson in basketball.

I still can't believe it as well....I was listening on tsrn. Couldn't believe it.

[SeguinMatadors]

Then we can make up for that basketball upset this year. I still can't believe Seguin beat Judson in basketball.

HAHA, expect much of the same if Judson and Seguin play in the playoffs in basketball this year. Seguin has a nice team and one of the top juniors in the state.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

All i can say is wow.i would have never though that SV would lose to churchill at SV :eek: .Churchill who has lost 2 games already to clark and marshall.but thats shows all of us that on any given friday anything can happen.i think this mixes things up for dist.26 5a cause both power houses are not undefeated.This friday at ROCKET Stadiam is gonna be a show down between to good teams.I can assure yall this.that the rockets are gonna G.A.T.A for 48 min.I know what that gata stands for. :D

[bubbacoach]

I know what that gata stands for. :D
GET AFTER THEM AGGRESSIVELY

[Mad Hatter]

jesus sounds like clemns does everything they can to get away from judson...lol go to 4a come up to 5a then move to a super weak district brag get spanked now they want to be D2?


lol i really dont want to play seguin but w/e if there petition does get accepted i hope sv gets 3rd place in dist so u have to play them round 1 :)

[SeguinMatadors]

jesus sounds like clemns does everything they can to get away from judson...lol go to 4a come up to 5a then move to a super weak district brag get spanked now they want to be D2?


lol i really dont want to play seguin but w/e if there petition does get accepted i hope sv gets 3rd place in dist so u have to play them round 1 :)

Ahh, worried about good ol' Seguin?

[bubbacoach]

Why would Judson be worried about Seguin? Who has seguin beat in the last two years that is truly a quality team?

[SeguinMatadors]

Why would Judson be worried about Seguin? Who has seguin beat in the last two years that is truly a quality team?

San Marcos.

[Bucky]

San Marcos.


When has San Marcos ever been a threat to Judson? Judson will not be afraid of Seguin ever..never..ever!!!!!

[SeguinMatadors]

When has San Marcos ever been a threat to Judson? Judson will not be afraid of Seguin ever..never..ever!!!!!

Except in basketball. ;) You told me to name a quality team that Seguin has beaten in the past two years. I did so. Calm down buddy. I doubt Seguin would beat Judson but this is HS football and Seguin does have a hell of a defense. When you play good defense, you can beat anyone on any given night. I hope we do play Judson in the playoffs.

[Bucky]

Except in basketball. ;) You told me to name a quality team that Seguin has beaten in the past two years. I did so. Calm down buddy. I doubt Seguin would beat Judson but this is HS football and Seguin does have a hell of a defense. When you play good defense, you can beat anyone on any given night. I hope we do play Judson in the playoffs.

Me too!! :D

[bubbacoach]

Except in basketball. ;) You told me to name a quality team that Seguin has beaten in the past two years. I did so. Calm down buddy. I doubt Seguin would beat Judson but this is HS football and Seguin does have a hell of a defense. When you play good defense, you can beat anyone on any given night. I hope we do play Judson in the playoffs.
We have had this discussion. That was a mighty fine dunk. The problem with Seguin right now is they have noone in their district to challenge them. Unless you consider the Bluffaloes or the gardensnakes a challenge. If you guys were in a tougher district and had to fight each week to get to the play-offs, you would be better prepared for the play-offs. :p

[SeguinMatadors]

We have had this discussion. That was a mighty fine dunk. The problem with Seguin right now is they have noone in their district to challenge them. Unless you consider the Bluffaloes or the gardensnakes a challenge. If you guys were in a tougher district and had to fight each week to get to the play-offs, you would be better prepared for the play-offs. :p

There is no doubt about it. A stronger district would better prepare the big 3 of 25-5a for the playoffs. Seguin has a tough game this week and then has a bunch of cupcakes until the last game of the season against Clemens. I dont know how much better you can get beating teams by 40 points. That being said, I do think Seguin, Clemens, and San Marcos are all very good teams this year.Whoever Judson gets,Clemens or Seguin, I can gurantee you they will put up a fight to the point that the game will be in doubt at some point in the fourth quater.

[rattlerbacker]

When has San Marcos ever been a threat to Judson?

San Mardos and Judson haven't even played in what, 10 years? San Marcos wasn't a quality program for a long, long time but who knows in the last 8 years? San Marcos underclasses have held their own against Judson.

[clemensbuff]

We have had this discussion. That was a mighty fine dunk. The problem with Seguin right now is they have noone in their district to challenge them. Unless you consider the Bluffaloes or the gardensnakes a challenge. If you guys were in a tougher district and had to fight each week to get to the play-offs, you would be better prepared for the play-offs. :p

Hey bubbacoach, they might consider Clemens a challenge in basketball since we swept them last year and won the game at their gym by 40 points! My nephew was a senior on Clemens team last year and I went to most games. We didn't have any superstar player on our team, just a bunch of decent players who played as a team. I even went to the game at Judson's place and it was a very good game. I think Judson won by 8. Your 6'6" kid carried the team as we had nobody with any size to stay with him. He was a really good player and Judson had a good team.

[clemensbuff]

jesus sounds like clemns does everything they can to get away from judson...lol go to 4a come up to 5a then move to a super weak district brag get spanked now they want to be D2?


lol i really dont want to play seguin but w/e if there petition does get accepted i hope sv gets 3rd place in dist so u have to play them round 1 :)

I'm sorry that the UIL let us choose the district we play in. Wake up and smell the coffee! We have three teams in our district that can play and compete with the teams in 26-5a and the rest are weak. You think that we don't know that, or what? Read all posts and you'll see that I've already responded to this issue about 10 times in the last month. We cannot control what district we put in, all we can do is the best we can. It will help to play SM and Seguin in two of our last three games.

Like I said in a previous post, I would rather Clemens play Judson than SV!!!! Read the posts and then at least write a decent one yourself that other people can understand. And for God's sake, please capitalize the word i and read your post before you submit it! If you can't read either, let someone proof read it for you!

[SeguinMatadors]

Hey bubbacoach, they might consider Clemens a challenge in basketball since we swept them last year and won the game at their gym by 40 points! My nephew was a senior on Clemens team last year and I went to most games. We didn't have any superstar player on our team, just a bunch of decent players who played as a team. I even went to the game at Judson's place and it was a very good game. I think Judson won by 8. Your 6'6" kid carried the team as we had nobody with any size to stay with him. He was a really good player and Judson had a good team.

Ouch, there was a reason for that 40 point loss. Two of our top players were out, still no excuse for losing by 40 at home though.

[jrp83]

Seguin is improved and San Marcos is decent, but I don't think either would make the playoffs in 26-5A. Judson and SV take two of the three spots pretty much off the bat. This year, with Churchills win over SV, they appear to be the front runner for the the last playoff spot. Madison is playing better and could challenge for a playoff spot. Roosevelt, Mac, and Reagan aren't far behind. It's still too early to tell, but either way, like I mentioned before, Seguin and San Marcos don't make the playoffs in this district.

[rattlerbacker]

So Madison can challenge for a playoff spot but San Marcos, the team that beat them, can't? Great logic there! Which 26-5A edumakashen did that come from? :D

[Reaganrattler07]

So Madison can challenge for a playoff spot but San Marcos, the team that beat them, can't? Great logic there! Which 26-5A edumakashen did that come from? :D

San Marcos can and will have a playoff spot. Madison will have a tougher time getting one than San Marcos.

[rattlerbacker]

I was replying to jrp83's point (?) that Madison would contend for a 26-5A playoff spot but neither Seguin nor San Marcos could.....or would.......or something, even though San Marcos has already played and beat Madison. It got kind of confusing in that logical jumble.

[Reaganrattler07]

I was replying to jrp83's point (?) that Madison would contend for a 26-5A playoff spot but neither Seguin nor San Marcos could.....or would.......or something, even though San Marcos has already played and beat Madison. It got kind of confusing in that logical jumble.

Oh, i figured you were replying to some person. But I just had to come in and say that.

[clemensbuff]

Seguin is improved and San Marcos is decent, but I don't think either would make the playoffs in 26-5A. Judson and SV take two of the three spots pretty much off the bat. This year, with Churchills win over SV, they appear to be the front runner for the the last playoff spot. Madison is playing better and could challenge for a playoff spot. Roosevelt, Mac, and Reagan aren't far behind. It's still too early to tell, but either way, like I mentioned before, Seguin and San Marcos don't make the playoffs in this district.

I think SM and Seguin could both contend for a playoff spot in this district this year. SM already beat one of your contenders in Madison. Go go crazy on me now, I said contend, not guarantee they would get a spot. As for your breakdown on who is in front for three spots I'd have to disagree somewhat. If Judson does beat the Rangers this week, SV could very well be in big trouble! If SV ends up 5-2 and so do the Chargers, and they are tied for third, SV is on the outside looking in! I still think that if Roosevelt gets their act together, they could challenge for a spot. As small of a school as they are, they will not back down from anyone!

Bottom line, 26-5a is a great district, with great competition with the exception of one or two schools every year. But, don't just simply come out and say that SM and Seguin couldn't compete, especially when one of them has already put it on one of your playoff contenders.

[Reaganrattler07]

I think SM and Seguin could both contend for a playoff spot in this district this year. SM already beat one of your contenders in Madison. Go go crazy on me now, I said contend, not guarantee they would get a spot. As for your breakdown on who is in front for three spots I'd have to disagree somewhat. If Judson does beat the Rangers this week, SV could very well be in big trouble! If SV ends up 5-2 and so do the Chargers, and they are tied for third, SV is on the outside looking in! I still think that if Roosevelt gets their act together, they could challenge for a spot. As small of a school as they are, they will not back down from anyone!

Bottom line, 26-5a is a great district, with great competition with the exception of one or two schools every year. But, don't just simply come out and say that SM and Seguin couldn't compete, especially when one of them has already put it on one of your playoff contenders.

Yeah, district spots aren't guaranteed....they're earned. And madison is gonna have to earn theirs....and my guys aren't gonna give up....hopefully.

But San marcos could definately contend. They beat one of the better teams in the area.

[BandidoNB]

When has San Marcos ever been a threat to Judson? Judson will not be afraid of Seguin ever..never..ever!!!!!

New Braunfels said that also about Seguin for 23 years. So ya... you never know bro.

[jrp83]

I was replying to jrp83's point (?) that Madison would contend for a 26-5A playoff spot but neither Seguin nor San Marcos could.....or would.......or something, even though San Marcos has already played and beat Madison. It got kind of confusing in that logical jumble.

Let them play again. I think Madison wins, and easily.

[Reaganrattler07]

Let them play again. I think Madison wins, and easily.

Well, if you didn't show up to play to begin with, why reschedule?

[DiamondJ2]

Roosevlet has internal problems, so it may be difficult for them to contend for playoff spot already. According to the SA Express-News a few Roosevelt players were suspended from the team. Length of time was not stated, nor the reason. They did not play in their game with Madison, so if they had those players, many who were starters, the outcome may have been different.

[jrp83]

Yeah, district spots aren't guaranteed....they're earned. And madison is gonna have to earn theirs....and my guys aren't gonna give up....hopefully.

But San marcos could definately contend. They beat one of the better teams in the area.

I will say it again, Seguin and San Marcos would not make the playoffs in district 26-5A. Would they contend, yes, but contending is not the same as making. Judson and SV beat both those teams for sure. If Churchill plays up to their ability, as with SV, they beat both as well. Thats 3 losses right there. Roosevelt, Mac, and Reagan probably split with them. That makes it 4 losses. You won't even sniff the playoffs with that many L's in 26-5A.

[jrp83]

Well, if you didn't show up to play to begin with, why reschedule?

What I am saying is if they were to play again, I feel the outcome would be different. I know that is not going to happen.

[SeguinMatadors]

I will say it again, Seguin and San Marcos would not make the playoffs in district 26-5A. Would they contend, yes, but contending is not the same as making. Judson and SV beat both those teams for sure. If Churchill plays up to their ability, as with SV, they beat both as well. Thats 3 losses right there. Roosevelt, Mac, and Reagan probably split with them. That makes it 4 losses. You won't even sniff the playoffs with that many L's in 26-5A.

Goodness I can't wait until the first round of the playoffs and all of the 26-5A vs. 25-5A games. I know I will have to hear this until then. Oh well.

[rattlerbacker]

Let them play again. I think Madison wins, and easily.


Naw, they had their chance, you don't get do-overs.

I will say it again, Seguin and San Marcos would not make the playoffs in district 26-5A.

Keep saying it, its just your OPINION, not really supported by the facts of the season. Man, I don't see why some of you 26-5Aers are soooo defensive. Put Roosevelt, Reagan and Mac in this district and they don't stand any better chance of making the playoffs than they do in 26. The fact of the matter is, 26 has 4 contenders and 25 has 3. Clemens, Judson and SV stand out among all of either district but Seguin and San Marcos could certainly challenge them as well as the other teams in 26.

[jrp83]

Goodness I can't wait until the first round of the playoffs and all of the 26-5A vs. 25-5A games. I know I will have to hear this until then. Oh well.

You guys play in the weakest 5A district in town, so of course your teams are going to put up some gawdy stats. 26-5A is not just the toughest 5A district in Region 4, but one of the toughest in the entire state. I am of the opinion that other than Clemens, because they proved themselves while in this district, that the other teams in 25-5A are not ready for the week in and week out grind of 26-5A, and would wilt by seasons end. Maybe after a few years of getting used to and making the adjustments necessary to compete, then the playoffs could become a reality for Seguin and SM. I'll use past history as a perfect example. From 1977-79, Judson was 30-4-0, with 3 district championships, 3 playoff trips. All while playing in a weak district. Starting in 1980, Judson moved in with the NE schools. They proceeded to go 6-4-0 & 7-3-0, no playoffs the next 2 seasons. But by the 3rd year in the top district in town, they started to dominate and haven't looked back. I believe that Seguin and SM are good enough to adjust, but to step right in and continue their success, I think not.

[SeguinMatadors]

You guys play in the weakest 5A district in town, so of course your teams are going to put up some gawdy stats. 26-5A is not just the toughest 5A district in Region 4, but one of the toughest in the entire state. I am of the opinion that other than Clemens, because they proved themselves while in this district, that the other teams in 25-5A are not ready for the week in and week out grind of 26-5A, and would wilt by seasons end. Maybe after a few years of getting used to and making the adjustments necessary to compete, then the playoffs could become a reality for Seguin and SM. I'll use past history as a perfect example. From 1977-79, Judson was 30-4-0, with 3 district championships, 3 playoff trips. All while playing in a weak district. Starting in 1980, Judson moved in with the NE schools. They proceeded to go 6-4-0 & 7-3-0, no playoffs the next 2 seasons. But by the 3rd year in the top district in town, they started to dominate and haven't looked back. I believe that Seguin and SM are good enough to adjust, but to step right in and continue their success, I think not.

I understand your logic. However, your logic doensn't always prove to be true; look at SLC, they were a 4a powerhouse and came to 5A (tougher competition) and continued their dominance. I am sure there are plenty of arguements you can make each way though.

[jrp83]

I understand your logic. However, your logic doensn't always prove to be true; look at SLC, they were a 4a powerhouse and came to 5A (tougher competition) and continued their dominance. I am sure there are plenty of arguements you can make each way though.

I think we finally agree, you make a valid point.

[RedRage00]

So Madison can challenge for a playoff spot but San Marcos, the team that beat them, can't? Great logic there! Which 26-5A edumakashen did that come from? :D

Madison won't make the playoffs in 265 so it really doesn't matter that San Marcos beat them by 3 points. I think Churchill will take the 3rd seed behind Judson and SV.

I've seen Madison twice this season and they are no where near as good as they were last season at this time.

RR

[clemensbuff]

Madison won't make the playoffs in 265 so it really doesn't matter that San Marcos beat them by 3 points. I think Churchill will take the 3rd seed behind Judson and SV.

I've seen Madison twice this season and they are no where near as good as they were last season at this time.

RR

So, if you are saying SV gets 2nd and Churchill gets third, you must beleive that SV is going to beat Judson Friday, right? Because if SV wins and they win out in 26-5a, Churchill would have to lose two games and hope that one of the two that they lost to does not end up 5-2 also because they would be out!

If SV loses, the best they can finish is 5-2 and that means that Churchill would have to lose three games to get third because an identical record to SV would make them second due to the win over SV. I think you could possibly be right, but most likely not. Any team with three losses will most likely have a better chance to stay cool in H--- then making the playoffs.

[mad_fan]

Madison won't make the playoffs in 265 so it really doesn't matter that San Marcos beat them by 3 points. I think Churchill will take the 3rd seed behind Judson and SV.

I've seen Madison twice this season and they are no where near as good as they were last season at this time.

RR


What about SV, are they as good as they were last year at this time?

What about Judson, are they as good as they were last year at this time?

[zippy]

Judson was playing an A- game last year when they faced SV. SV was on about a B- game, and ended the year playing with an A game. I would say Judson is B+ right now and SV started with a B game, and last week played a C- game first half, and an A second half. If they can get past the center/QB exchange, and mistakes that SV normally does not make, they will give Judson a great game. If not they will get smoked. SV's starting LB is going to be key in the game as well, I dont know if he will be playing this week either. He was out last week, and might be out this week as well.


What about SV, are they as good as they were last year at this time?

What about Judson, are they as good as they were last year at this time?

[mad_fan]

Judson was playing an A- game last year when they faced SV. SV was on about a B- game, and ended the year playing with an A game. I would say Judson is B+ right now and SV started with a B game, and last week played a C- game first half, and an A second half. If they can get past the center/QB exchange, and mistakes that SV normally does not make, they will give Judson a great game. If not they will get smoked. SV's starting LB is going to be key in the game as well, I dont know if he will be playing this week either. He was out last week, and might be out this week as well.


That's along the lines I'm thinking. I would add that I think Churchill was on THEIR A game last week. That doesnt mean I think they'll be on their game the rest of the season, but they were last week. I also think that Churchill's A+ game will not defeat Judson's B+ game. SV, well we all have to wait to see what game they bring.

[Reaganrattler07]

What I am saying is if they were to play again, I feel the outcome would be different. I know that is not going to happen.

Course the outcome would be different....you know whats comming. Like in basketball or any other sport, when you play second time around scores tend to be a lot closer.