Riley Dodge

[cajun]

I see Riley Dodge is not rated that high as a QB.... Rivals has him listed as an Athlete and he's not mentioned in their top 100 or 250 recruits....Just exactly what is Riley Dodge gonna do at Texas and do you think he will be a successful college football player?...He runs a 4.7 forty and is what- 6 foot and weighs 183...

I'm thinking if Dodge hadn't been at SLC(system) and his last name wasn't Dodge he ends up at Rice or SMU, if not Sam Houston State....

Last thought...Why didn't Riley Dodge choose Texas Tech who runs a similar type offense?..I see he had them(Tech) listed on his choices at Rivals...

Ranks 58th in Texas on the recruiting list...
Riley Dodge
Southlake (TX) Carroll High School

COLLEGE CHOICES INTEREST OFFER VISIT RECRUITED BY
Texas (solid verbal)
Texas Tech
North Texas
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
Missouri
Oklahoma

[Texasfrog]

OakTree, out of respect for you (because I know you actually know football and have common sense) I'm not going to touch this one.

Wow, if his name wasnt Dodge and playing at SLC (system) he would basically be a kid looking for a "ship" at some obviously second-rate "no talent" schools like Rice, SMU or even Sam Houston. Gotta love it.:rolleyes:

Your right Cajun.. I agree with you 100%. I agree with Cajun... 100% !!!;)

[stevefoxsc]

I see Riley Dodge is not rated that high as a QB.... Rivals has him listed as an Athlete and he's not mentioned in their top 100 or 250 recruits....Just exactly what is Riley Dodge gonna do at Texas and do you think he will be a successful college football player?...He runs a 4.7 forty and is what- 6 foot and weighs 183...

I'm thinking if Dodge hadn't been at SLC(system) and his last name wasn't Dodge he ends up at Rice or SMU, if not Sam Houston State....

Last thought...Why didn't Riley Dodge choose Texas Tech who runs a similar type offense?..I see he had them(Tech) listed on his choices at Rivals...

Ranks 58th in Texas on the recruiting list...
Riley Dodge
Southlake (TX) Carroll High School

COLLEGE CHOICES INTEREST OFFER VISIT RECRUITED BY
Texas (solid verbal)
Texas Tech
North Texas
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
Missouri
Oklahoma

i guess him taking slc to the state along with the team as well as taking on a for sure nationally rated ET must have been nothing.

Hes going to UT so what herd of sleepers? red shirting? break out years? look at colt mc coy no one gave him a chance in hell over starting over jevan snead. Now hes a heismen hopeful with a chance to play in a national game if all goes well.

[mojotrain]

I see Riley Dodge is not rated that high as a QB.... Rivals has him listed as an Athlete and he's not mentioned in their top 100 or 250 recruits....Just exactly what is Riley Dodge gonna do at Texas and do you think he will be a successful college football player?...He runs a 4.7 forty and is what- 6 foot and weighs 183...

I'm thinking if Dodge hadn't been at SLC(system) and his last name wasn't Dodge he ends up at Rice or SMU, if not Sam Houston State....

Last thought...Why didn't Riley Dodge choose Texas Tech who runs a similar type offense?..I see he had them(Tech) listed on his choices at Rivals...

Ranks 58th in Texas on the recruiting list...
Riley Dodge
Southlake (TX) Carroll High School

COLLEGE CHOICES INTEREST OFFER VISIT RECRUITED BY
Texas (solid verbal)
Texas Tech
North Texas
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
Missouri
Oklahoma

I don't hang on Rivals as to who to watch. My guess is thats for kids who may make it big later on or in highschool. This is about highschool football and wins and loses. Rivals can do neither. Riley Dodge is the best in Texas in his system which involves a complete team. He might have already accomplished what those ahead of him who have been knighted by Rivals could never do. The object is to win and go to the playoffs . Rivals can do neither. My money says Riley can, has and just may do it again.

I don't care what he will do at Texas,OU, NT or Tech. and ect. Unless Permian is required to play ever which one is his choice.

On the Tech Question. Jones Stadium is where he got his bell rung. Just bad memories.

[Favpack]

Riley to me could be another Troy Smith. A touch slower, and less arm strength right now, but excellent operator of a spread. I personally think he could end up at UNT, but that's a guess and I don't know what the family is thinking.

He could certainly step in at Texas and do what Jordan Shipley has done.

[ACM Dad]

Some kids have this intangible thing called "knowing how to win". I've never seen this kid or SLC play live, but I can tell you that you can't measure desire or the knack of knowing how to win.

Texas recruited his as an ATH, not QB.

[TXFOOSBALL]

If Riley was rated as a QB on Rivals he would be probably be a Top 5-10 dual threat QB but he is ranked as an athlete so it is not possible.

[Texasfrog]

Ya, I dont think D. Brees was the highly rated coming out of HS. I'm not even sure he was on the Texas Top 100.

I guess being a 4 year starter at Purdue and 2nd Round NFL draft pick and going to the Pro Bowl a couple of times already in about 5 years doesnt count because he wasnt that highly rated on the Texas Top 100.;)

I think Kevin Kolb (Stephenville & UH) was about #80th on the Texas Top 100. So, him being an NFL 2nd draft pick also is no good.

By the way, anyone know how high up the Texas Top 100 and National 250 RB-L. Tomlinson was ? I'm pretty sure he wasnt that highly rated coming out of High School on the Top tier and National scene. I guess him being regarded by many as the best player in the NFL doesnt count now.:rolleyes:

Anyway, I now know that if Riley Dodge didnt play at SLC (system) and his last name wasnt Dodge and I guess the HC son too boot. That he would probably be just another "ho-hum" player because someone told me.:eek:

You know when we (Texas) have like 100,000 kids playing HS football and your listed as the about the #58th ranked Senior in Texas. That must really mean you aint that good.:rolleyes:

[dragons08]

riley will make it at any position they need him.

he does whatever is neccesary to win.

just by watching the games you can see how he goes for every possible yard.

the ET game sticks out. How he ran in for that touchdown while getting his bell rung, is amazing. that took guts. then despite the minor concussion or whatever it was, factored in with an injury the next week, how he kept performing at a high level is amazing.

[abc]

I believe his size is what hinders him from being listed as a top rated QB. Listing him at 6 ft tall is being generous.....Last year at the end of the state game when he hugged Nick Foles, he looked well over 5 inches shorter than him. Nevertheless, he's a great football player who knows how to win...he could be the next Major Applewhite for all we know.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I believe his size is what hinders him from being listed as a top rated QB. Listing him at 6 ft tall is being generous.....Last year at the end of the state game when he hugged Nick Foles, he looked well over 5 inches shorter than him. Nevertheless, he's a great football player who knows how to win...he could be the next Major Applewhite for all we know.

Aside from just plain height, the biggest thing that hinders his recruiting ranking is his frame in my opinion. There are plenty of kids who are 6'0" and still considered high D1 prospects at QB... Chris Leak, Brock Berlin come to mind immediately. Riley's ability and intangibles aren't far from either of those guys, IMO. His frame is just really slight naturally... despite the fact that he's obviously spent a lot of time in the weight room, he still looks skinny. If he were 3 inches taller and a little bit thicker he'd be a national top 100 recruit.

That said, I offer him a scholarship if I'm a D1 coach regardless of where I'm at. He's got enough physical ability and intangibles to make a difference at that level. A lot of programs have 5-7 OL that go through their program and never play a down. Riley's presence on the roster is worth a lot more than those types of depth recruits. And you never know... if he gets a shot at QB he could very well end up being one of those Drew Brees stories. I wouldn't necessarily bet on that happening, but I'm not going to bet against him either.

He reminds me a little bit of Buck Ortega. Ortega was a lot bigger than Riley, but as a HS quarterback (same HS team as Sean Taylor) he was just one of those kids who was a gung-ho winner in everything he did. Miami took him to the dismay of most of their fans who correctly figured that he'd never play a down at QB. He wasn't really good enough to be a Miami quarterback, wasn't really thick enough to be a tight end or linebacker (he was about 6'5" 205), but he was just one of those kids that you don't regret taking. Sure enough, he was a special teams superstar and had several clutch catches as a backup at tight end. He was never a dominant guy or even a guy who had a set position, but he was a winner you wanted on your roster. He's still hanging around the NFL on practice squads collecting a paycheck from football despite the fact that he's really not talented or big enough to be an NFL player at any traditional football position.

[SLC93]

A few thinggs to consider.

1) 4.7, if it was ever accurate, is nowhere near RD's top speed.
2) QB's make it at the college level at about 6 ft quite often
3) If you've seen him this summer, he's filling that frame out quite nicely and plans on enrolling early so his next offseason will be at UT being pushed by their trainers and staff. I have not problems seeing him at 210 or so by next fall.
4) He's already better on the field and in his passing game than 50% of all the hs offensive coordinators running the spread. He knows his game and can read a defense like very few have at the hs level.
5) Name a tougher competitor that took the field last year or will take it this year. The kid is focused, plays through pain and get results.
6) Oh yeah, he's a legitimately gifted athlete.


Go ahead and undervalue this kid or sell him short. Just don't say you weren't warned ahead of time when you're shaking your head in a few years, wondering how you didn't see it coming.:cool:

[Texasfrog]

A few Texas QB's the last 20 years that Riley Dodge is in their same class and skill level (IMO).

1. Ty Detmer (4 year starter BYU,Heisman and what like 18 years in the NFL).
2. Drew Brees (4 year starter Purdue), 2 NFL All-Pro years.
3. Koy Detmer (3 year starter Colorado), something like 13 years in the NFL.
4. Drew Tate ( 4 year starter Iowa) All Big-10 a couple of times.

All these guys were in the (6-0 ft/180 lbs) range or less coming out of HS. In fact I think Riley Dodge is bigger than both of the Detmer brothers. Really Riley Dodge might be bigger than all 4 of them.

Next, I would give him (Riley Dodge) a "ship" because what he brings to the team (Texas) is a Super Winning "We Can Do Attitude" and Leadership that can be worth it's weight in Gold to a Coach and team to have players like that around.

I'm just glad Texas gave him a "ship." IF not I guess he was headed to Sam Houston St.:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

There a chance he'll be the only Texas hs, 5A qb that goes to college with his graduating class 64-0. They run the table this year and he's never lost a game.

[SLCFan]

There a chance he'll be the only Texas hs, 5A qb that goes to college with his graduating class 64-0. They run the table this year and he's never lost a game.

Sorry just soiled myself at the thought or this!:D :eek: How awesome would that be if it happened?

[jtk1519]

I see Riley Dodge is not rated that high as a QB.... Rivals has him listed as an Athlete and he's not mentioned in their top 100 or 250 recruits....Just exactly what is Riley Dodge gonna do at Texas and do you think he will be a successful college football player?...He runs a 4.7 forty and is what- 6 foot and weighs 183...

I'm thinking if Dodge hadn't been at SLC(system) and his last name wasn't Dodge he ends up at Rice or SMU, if not Sam Houston State....

Last thought...Why didn't Riley Dodge choose Texas Tech who runs a similar type offense?..I see he had them(Tech) listed on his choices at Rivals...

Ranks 58th in Texas on the recruiting list...
Riley Dodge
Southlake (TX) Carroll High School

COLLEGE CHOICES INTEREST OFFER VISIT RECRUITED BY
Texas (solid verbal)
Texas Tech
North Texas
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
Missouri
Oklahoma

Just because they use a lot of 4 wide looks doesn't mean they are the same offense. They are actually very different in both design and execution. Reality is that SLC's offense is more like Texas' which is also a spread offense. The only real difference is that Texas usually uses a TE to the weak side instead of the 2nd slot receiver like SLC. Texas also goes under center more than SLC who never goes under center. However, the design an execution of SLC's offense is very close to that of Texas. Much closer to Texas' than Tech's.

Riley reminds me so much of Chris Leak when he came out of Independence high school in North Carolina. Leak came out at about 5'11 190 with 4.7 speed. I think Riley is a little taller and quicker than Leak, but their passing abilities are much the same. Riley is much more agile and quicker though.

[1337boy]

I think Riely might have a tough time getting PT at UT. I think he'd be a better fit (QB-wise for sure) at Mizzou or UNT. Mizzou's offense was implemented with the help of coach dodge expressly for Chase Daniel, so Riley would have a pretty easy time stepping in in a year or two. My reasoning behind UNT is obvious.

[mojotrain]

I believe his size is what hinders him from being listed as a top rated QB. Listing him at 6 ft tall is being generous.....Last year at the end of the state game when he hugged Nick Foles, he looked well over 5 inches shorter than him. Nevertheless, he's a great football player who knows how to win...he could be the next Major Applewhite for all we know.

He is a a top rated QB. He's kicked the lungs out of every one. This is HS football, he is at the top. At 3' 6" or whatever what else could any one ask of him? Rivals is for someone else at another time. You take-em, Riley plays into December and the rest stay home and get their jollies reading Rivals.

[SLC93]

I think Riely might have a tough time getting PT at UT. I think he'd be a better fit (QB-wise for sure) at Mizzou or UNT. Mizzou's offense was implemented with the help of coach dodge expressly for Chase Daniel, so Riley would have a pretty easy time stepping in in a year or two. My reasoning behind UNT is obvious.

I've seen nothing from the other Texas recruits at qb that tells me RD can't compete for that job. You're looking at a minimum of two seasons before it's even open & that's if Colt leaves early. Do you expect me to believe that RD, who would have 2 1/2 years to prep since he's enrolling early, can't compete with a Harris, Chiles or Kinne? To discount him is soooooooo short sighted.

[Texasfrog]

I've seen nothing from the other Texas recruits at qb that tells me RD can't compete for that job. You're looking at a minimum of two seasons before it's even open & that's if Colt leaves early. Do you expect me to believe that RD, who would have 2 1/2 years to prep since he's enrolling early, can't compete with a Harris, Chiles or Kinne? To discount him is soooooooo short sighted.

I dont see Colt McCoy leaving Texas early. He still has somethings he needs to improve on from last season like overall arm strength. I've heard that he has really been working on his strength and power this off-season so it will be interesting to see how much bigger and stronger he is.

I mean if he came out and just blew up it next year I guess it's possible. But, I still think he stays for the entire 5 years.

PS. People are underestimating Riley Dodge however. Some of those throw I saw him make in the Westlake, Trinity and Permian game were D-1A. Even in that bad weather out in Lubbock.

[DrEdward]

Any kid capable of throwing up and throwing a touchdown pass sequentially on the same play in a Texas state title game is decidedly D-1 material. As to why Texas?, surely you can't be serious. Let's see - his father goes to UT and becomes their QB. Son grows up in dad's footsteps as a QB (and a decent track guy as well.) Son is UT fan for his whole life with one set of grandparents living just outside Austin. Riley is recruited by Texas. Gee, I wonder why he signed?

[yankee]

Any kid capable of throwing up and throwing a touchdown pass sequentially on the same play in a Texas state title game is decidedly D-1 material. As to why Texas?, surely you can't be serious. Let's see - his father goes to UT and becomes their QB. Son grows up in dad's footsteps as a QB (and a decent track guy as well.) Son is UT fan for his whole life with one set of grandparents living just outside Austin. Riley is recruited by Texas. Gee, I wonder why he signed?

also he gets to play with tre newton, play under mack brown, play at dkr, play for a storied program, and possibly be on a national championship team (never can count out texas)...i know i couldn't turn that down!

[farmerfan]

I dont see Colt McCoy leaving Texas early. He still has somethings he needs to improve on from last season like overall arm strength. I've heard that he has really been working on his strength and power this off-season so it will be interesting to see how much bigger and stronger he is.

I mean if he came out and just blew up it next year I guess it's possible. But, I still think he stays for the entire 5 years.

PS. People are underestimating Riley Dodge however. Some of those throw I saw him make in the Westlake, Trinity and Permian game were D-1A. Even in that bad weather out in Lubbock.

Can someone remind me of that bad weather please. I was at Jones SBC that afternoon and only remember it being cold but not no where near bad weather. Maybe the alcohol has killed more brain cells than I want to believe.

[yankee]

Can someone remind me of that bad weather please. I was at Jones SBC that afternoon and only remember it being cold but not no where near bad weather. Maybe the alcohol has killed more brain cells than I want to believe.

unbelievably cold, windy...but not bad weather. (relatively speaking)

[BleedBurntOrange]

Who is this 'Riley Dodge' everyone keeps talking about?


;)

[KT1ss24]

Riley will probably grow to atleast 6'1 and thats fine enough. He obviously runs a 4.4 (I've never seen him get caught from behind) and (from what I have seen) he is a helk of alot more accurate than Luck. Yes, any one could argue that he is in a system that produces numbers but it is also a system that produces D-1 qb's. Riley should be and probably will be given the chance to start out as a Qb and I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be pushing for playing time his soph season and the starting job his Jr year. I see Riley developing into a mix of Colt and Vince, minus a couple of inches and not as magical obviously but has the same intangibles to make plays by both running and throwing.

[SLC93]

Who is this 'Riley Dodge' everyone keeps talking about?


;)

:D ;)

[SLC93]

Any kid capable of throwing up and throwing a touchdown pass sequentially on the same play in a Texas state title game is decidedly D-1 material. As to why Texas?, surely you can't be serious. Let's see - his father goes to UT and becomes their QB. Son grows up in dad's footsteps as a QB (and a decent track guy as well.) Son is UT fan for his whole life with one set of grandparents living just outside Austin. Riley is recruited by Texas. Gee, I wonder why he signed?

I still can't figure it out.:confused: :D

[DrEdward]

Can someone remind me of that bad weather please. I was at Jones SBC that afternoon and only remember it being cold but not no where near bad weather. Maybe the alcohol has killed more brain cells than I want to believe.

There were a few snow flakes blowing around that day, although it was mostly before the game. It was cold, however, as you well recall. I was sick for a month and a half after that game.

[SLCDad]

Who is this 'Riley Dodge' everyone keeps talking about?


;)

Let me introduce you: http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/Content/Article.mxp/ArticleID-51ca4ee2-6362-4c1f-a09a-edbb5b81066d

[BDB]

Let me introduce you: http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/Content/Article.mxp/ArticleID-51ca4ee2-6362-4c1f-a09a-edbb5b81066d

pssssssssssst......... it was a joke :p

[dragons08]

There were a few snow flakes blowing around that day, although it was mostly before the game. It was cold, however, as you well recall. I was sick for a month and a half after that game.

the "temp" thing read like 30's the whole game. when we got there, they were shoveling snow out of the bleachers.

[DrEdward]

the "temp" thing read like 30's the whole game. when we got there, they were shoveling snow out of the bleachers.

And that doesn't include the wind chill!

[dragons08]

And that doesn't include the wind chill!

oh, yeah that swirling wind.

that was a coldddddddddddddddddddddd game.

[Texasfrog]

I think the point is watching Riley Dodge in the Westlake, Trinity and Permian game from his junior year. He displayed some serious (D-1A) talents as not only an athlete but QB prospect. As far as the Permian game out in Lubbock.

Whenever it's basically in the 30's and the wind is howling from 360 degree and gusting and he can still come out and throw for (18-30-249 yd-3 tds) I'm pretty impressed. I was also pretty impressed watching Odessa Permian QB (Tate Smith) in that game (19-44-234 yd-1td) and he is a pretty salty QB himself. Anyone know where or if he signed ? I thought I heard he signed with a Junior College somewhere but could be wrong.

Anyway, RD is a very good QB and I think Texas will give him a shot at QB. Texas has WR's to burn so giving RD a shot for a couple of seasons at QB wont hurt anything. Plus, who knows.. he might turn out to be the "MAN" after 2 years and take Texas to somemore BCS Bowls. I wouldnt doubt it at all and I wouldnt bet against it. He's leadership and field awareness plus talent are first Class.

[farmerfan]

There were a few snow flakes blowing around that day, although it was mostly before the game. It was cold, however, as you well recall. I was sick for a month and a half after that game.

It was very cold I just can't remember the wind. Thanks again. I never knew it snowed that day at all. I know there was snow in Lbbock that week just never knew it snowed that morning. Should have woke up more than 30 minutes before kickoff I guess.

[mojotrain]

There were a few snow flakes blowing around that day, although it was mostly before the game. It was cold, however, as you well recall. I was sick for a month and a half after that game.

I was ok the first half but froze in the second half:cry

[Texasfrog]

I was ok the first half but froze in the second half:cry

Where did Tate Smith sign if he did ?

[mojotrain]

I think the point is watching Riley Dodge in the Westlake, Trinity and Permian game from his junior year. He displayed some serious (D-1A) talents as not only an athlete but QB prospect. As far as the Permian game out in Lubbock.

Whenever it's basically in the 30's and the wind is howling from 360 degree and gusting and he can still come out and throw for (18-30-249 yd-3 tds) I'm pretty impressed. I was also pretty impressed watching Odessa Permian QB (Tate Smith) in that game (19-44-234 yd-1td) and he is a pretty salty QB himself. Anyone know where or if he signed ? I thought I heard he signed with a Junior College somewhere but could be wrong.

Anyway, RD is a very good QB and I think Texas will give him a shot at QB. Texas has WR's to burn so giving RD a shot for a couple of seasons at QB wont hurt anything. Plus, who knows.. he might turn out to be the "MAN" after 2 years and take Texas to somemore BCS Bowls. I wouldnt doubt it at all and I wouldnt bet against it. He's leadership and field awareness plus talent are first Class.

Tate, I think is going to Cisco. I also think a former Mitlan Lee coach is there.
Tate is cousin to the Case brothers so the blood is there. IMO He has just started in developing and I believe he could have pro skills so a jr. college was a great choice for him.

[Texasfrog]

Tate, I think is going to Cisco. I also think a former Mitlan Lee coach is there.
Tate is cousin to the Case brothers so the blood is there. IMO He has just started in developing and I believe he could have pro skills so a jr. college was a great choice for him.

I was pretty impressed with him. I thought I heard someone else say he was going to Cisco JC. Yes, Coach Parchman is the H/C and AD there now.

How big is he exactly ? I've only seen him on tv.

I also read the artical about him being a 1st cousin to the Case brothers. I always thought they were very good QB's and Stoney Case proved it by being a star at New Mexico and then going into the NFL for about 6 or so years.

[mojotrain]

I was pretty impressed with him. I thought I heard someone else say he was going to Cisco JC. Yes, Coach Parchman is the H/C and AD there now.

How big is he exactly ? I've only seen him on tv.

I also read the artical about him being a 1st cousin to the Case brothers. I always thought they were very good QB's and Stoney Case proved it by being a star at New Mexico and then going into the NFL for about 6 or so years.

I'll say Tate is 6'1" and maybe around 190#. He has such a strong arm and very accurate on a deep sideline. He was a total supprise to me the way he developed from his mid Jr. year through last. (coaching) and line improvment gave him that chance. If Parchman is the same as he was at Lee he will have a good line.

[TrojanHorse03]

I think some of Cajun's statements were taken the wrong way. Surely you jest, if you don't believe Riley didn't benefit from the coaching, the exposure, and the weapons at Southlake in addition to the respect associated with Dodge name. We seen countless scrappy and productive QBs have to go to school with lower profiles than Texas ,but were still good opportunies, because they weren't BLESSED with advantages Riley has. However if Cajun is suggesting Riley is ONLY getting a UT 'ship because he went to slc and the Dodge name and not also because of skill and talent than he's flat wrong on that.

[TrojanHorse03]

I personally like the Troy Smith comparison(minus the early off field troubles) as a comparison to recent collegians. Troy Smith was labeled as a ATH/QB coming out of high school but was adamant he deserved a fair shot at QB. However the type of person he was(like Dodge I believe) for the good of the TEAM he played wideout his redshirt and redshirt freshman years. As a junior he was a highiy efficient true dual threat QB. By the time Troy Smith was a senior he had so mastered the passing game, particularly 4 and 5 wide sets, that ironically he only had to use his mobility to buy to time for his arm and as he saw fit. Also ironically Troy Smith left having redefining the QB spot at OSU. And while its highly unlikely anybody even touches Vince at UT, if he gets his shot at QB I can see him being a mix of the Jr. and Sr. versions of Troy Smith. I also see a Quarterbacking resemblence to a bevy of other successful QBs such as Doug Flutie, Major Applewhite, Drew Stanton, Jared Zabranski, Matt Flynn, Stephen McGee

[Texasfrog]

I think some of Cajun's statements were taken the wrong way. Surely you jest, if you don't believe Riley didn't benefit from the coaching, the exposure, and the weapons at Southlake in addition to the respect associated with Dodge name. We seen countless scrappy and productive QBs have to go to school with lower profiles than Texas ,but were still good opportunies, because they weren't BLESSED with advantages Riley has. However if Cajun is suggesting Riley is ONLY getting a UT 'ship because he went to slc and the Dodge name and not also because of skill and talent than he's flat wrong on that.

He said that if RD didnt play at SLC and his name wasnt Dodge he would be getting a "ship" to Baylor, SMU or maybe even Sam Houston St.

He even said that he is barely 6 ft and runs a 4.7 (which I think is totally wrong). So, basically he is saying that there aint nothing great about him physically. So, I guess there isnt anything great about Drew Tate, Ty Detmer, Koy Detmer, Drew Brees and few others over the years. They didnt pass the "eye ball" test but they seem to have done very well on the college level and NFL level.

[yankee]

A few thinggs to consider.

I have not problems seeing him at 210 or so by next fall.





if riley dodge is 210 by next fall he'll have gut...there's only so much muscle you can pack on a frame and it's pretty filled out right now.

[SLC93]

if riley dodge is 210 by next fall he'll have gut...there's only so much muscle you can pack on a frame and it's pretty filled out right now.

I think I may have miswrote. What I meant was fall of his freshman year, since his offseason will be as a student at UT and under the supervision of the Longhorn training staff. He's not built out just yet. Look at the difference in Colt after one offseason.

[Texasfrog]

I think I may have miswrote. What I meant was fall of his freshman year, since his offseason will be as a student at UT and under the supervision of the Longhorn training staff. He's not built out just yet. Look at the difference in Colt after one offseason.

I think RD would be good at about (6ft/205) tops. I think any heavier and he would lose some of his natural gifts (speed & quickness).

[yankee]

I think I may have miswrote. What I meant was fall of his freshman year, since his offseason will be as a student at UT and under the supervision of the Longhorn training staff. He's not built out just yet. Look at the difference in Colt after one offseason.

colt mccoy had room to put on that weight as he is 6-3...riley is barely 6 foot...mccoy put on 17 pounds between high school and ut...if riley did that he'd be 200 pounds, and that's if he had the frame that mccoy has. i just don't see it happening...

[wargograw]

what does getting your bell rung mean?

[katyfan52]

what does getting your bell rung mean?
A hit to the head...one too many can scramble your brains. :eek:

[wargograw]

oh haha. well it cant be that bad just think of the linemen.

[DrEdward]

oh haha. well it cant be that bad just think of the linemen.

If you've never experienced it, then you likely don't know how bad it can be. Many times you don't have any clue where you are or why you're there. Most of the time, it is not serious, but it certainly can be medically. It most assuredly does happen to linemen as well, but such hits are not typically at full speed, like they are more frequently with running backs and QBs.

[mojotrain]

what does getting your bell rung mean?

West Texas definitions of getting you bell rung.
A hit on the opposing player that either,
1) causes slobber to flow in copious amounts from his nose and or mouth.
2) causes temporary numbness in the portion of the body that took the major part of the impact.
3) Takes away your will to get up and finish the game.

Either 1 or 2 or both may cause you to get up with wobbly legs and try to follow the opposing team to their huddle.

#3 will show in your efforts the rest of the game. #3 was not a part of Rileys character in Jones on that day. I think he did play one play before his back up came on for one play, then he got mad!:eek: I'm not sure someone might watch the film and see.

[SLCFan]

West Texas definitions of getting you bell rung.
A hit on the opposing player that either,
1) causes slobber to flow in copious amounts from his nose and or mouth.
2) causes temporary numbness in the portion of the body that took the major part of the impact.
3) Takes away your will to get up and finish the game.

Either 1 or 2 or both may cause you to get up with wobbly legs and try to follow the opposing team to their huddle.

#3 will show in your efforts the rest of the game. #3 was not a part of Rileys character in Jones on that day. I think he did play one play before his back up came on for one play, then he got mad!:eek: I'm not sure someone might watch the film and see.

Yeah but that one play he had no idea where he was or what he was doing. It was a blown I guess had off to Tre... they just kinda looked at each other like WTF. the back up came in and threw and INT. RD was back in on the next series. He was very unstable and could not run. I do not think he completed a TD pass in the 1st half. His bell was RUNG by all 3 of your definitions... the only thing that was dissapointing is there were several MOJO fans that were cheering his injury. He was leveled though. Came from his blindside untouched and laid him out... I can still see it in slow motion I thin it was #23 or maybe #10... the kid made a highlight reel hit, and it was clean. I'm just glad our D kept us in the game. Tre had a great game and RD was mentally back to himself in the 2nd half. He was definately still hurting...

[mojotrain]

A hit to the head...one too many can scramble your brains. :eek:

wargograw

It didn't occur to me that the question about a head hit was what the intent of your question. Any upper body hit can cause the same reaction and then hitting the ground can be serious too. By me using the term, bell rung I was not implying, nor do I want anyone to construe that a player went for Rileys head. It's not taught here so if you wish to rag on us find another cause.

[SLCFan]

wargograw

It didn't occur to me that the question about a head hit was what the intent of your question. Any upper body hit can cause the same reaction and then hitting the ground can be serious too. By me using the term, bell rung I was not implying, nor do I want anyone to construe that a player went for Rileys head. It's not taught here so if you wish to rag on us find another cause.

Anyone who was there should be able to agree with you it was a text book hit... actually it was pretty sick! Had it been anyone other than RD it's one of those hits that makes the fans drool with the player. We were all concerned for him. It was a legit hit and I don't feel any one was tried to intentionally go for his head.

[SLCDad]

pssssssssssst......... it was a joke :pReally? I never guessed. :D

As was my response. I just needed an excuse to post the link. Thanks.

[mojotrain]

Yeah but that one play he had no idea where he was or what he was doing. It was a blown I guess had off to Tre... they just kinda looked at each other like WTF. the back up came in and threw and INT. RD was back in on the next series. He was very unstable and could not run. I do not think he completed a TD pass in the 1st half. His bell was RUNG by all 3 of your definitions... the only thing that was dissapointing is there were several MOJO fans that were cheering his injury. He was leveled though. Came from his blindside untouched and laid him out... I can still see it in slow motion I thin it was #23 or maybe #10... the kid made a highlight reel hit, and it was clean. I'm just glad our D kept us in the game. Tre had a great game and RD was mentally back to himself in the 2nd half. He was definately still hurting...

Well I was one that jumped up and cheered but it was for the hit as I didn't know at the time it was other than a good hit. I guess in any group of 7,000 to 8,000 people some might cheer something such as a injury. But speaking for those that I know respect your program and most all your kids no one would want to see any opposing player injured.

[SLCFan]

Well I was one that jumped up and cheered but it was for the hit as I didn't know at the time it was other than a good hit. I guess in any group of 7,000 to 8,000 people some might cheer something such as a injury. But speaking for those that I know respect your program and most all your kids no one would want to see any opposing player injured.

Yeah, I don't condone it, but there's always a couple of morons... Like I said, if it was us doing the hitting I would have cheared the hit as well. It hurts to be on the receiving side of it though. do you remember what number the kid was? It was one of the hardest hits of the playoffs post Trinity! I'm not sure any team we played hit as hard as they did.

[mojotrain]

Yeah, I don't condone it, but there's always a couple of morons... Like I said, if it was us doing the hitting I would have cheared the hit as well. It hurts to be on the receiving side of it though. do you remember what number the kid was? It was one of the hardest hits of the playoffs post Trinity! I'm not sure any team we played hit as hard as they did. I'm thinking it was a Andrew Amoyaw a junior DB. His # was 40 if you can remember.

[SLCFan]

I'm thinking it was a Andrew Amoyaw a junior DB. His # was 40 if you can remember.

Cool thanks for the info... Can you ask him to wear a cowbell or something so we can remember to block him this year if we play? LOL:D

[rich_pack]

If he does not make it as a qb, he will make a good reciever, he is very fast, and proved his sophmore year, he can catch the ball as well.

[5A ALL-STAR]

People love to hate Riley Dodge. While everybody was riding on the William Cole bandwagon, they forgot that Riley had also had over 1,000 rushing yards and William Cole had 62 total td's while Riley had 67. How can you have 67 TD's and people still say you are overrated or a system QB? I dont know one system(Unless you play QB for Texas Tech or Hawaii) guarantee 67 TD's

[protect-the-tradition]

People love to hate Riley Dodge. While everybody was riding on the William Cole bandwagon, they forgot that Riley had also had over 1,000 rushing yards and William Cole had 62 total td's while Riley had 67. How can you have 67 TD's and people still say you are overrated or a system QB? I dont know one system(Unless you play QB for Texas Tech or Hawaii) guarantee 67 TD's

Your right allstar I think its a little of both they Love to hate SLC / RILEY if riley had been the Qb of some other team it would be a different story........

[maxtor]

Any kid capable of throwing up and throwing a touchdown pass sequentially on the same play in a Texas state title game is decidedly D-1 material. As to why Texas?, surely you can't be serious. Let's see - his father goes to UT and becomes their QB. Son grows up in dad's footsteps as a QB (and a decent track guy as well.) Son is UT fan for his whole life with one set of grandparents living just outside Austin. Riley is recruited by Texas. Gee, I wonder why he signed?

I know that I would have signed for sure. But then again I don't think that they give out donut eating scholarships.
And yes, for all of you uneducated morons out there I did go to college......Longest dang two weeks of my life. LOL Breezed right through orientation. Geneous. er genious er genus... ah f*** it.:eek:

[78 Spartan]

It is my guess that Riley Dodge wanted to play at Texas more than he wanted to play quarterback. My sense is that he could have been assured a shot at playing quarterback had he committed to UNT, or SMU, or a lot of programs. We can all name undersized "winner" types who did fine at the college level, starting with Doug Flutie and Lance McIlhenny and working forward through the Detmers and Drew Tate and so forth. Lots of schools would have killed for him at QB.

But Texas' position of strength allows them to dictate terms that most others can't. By shifting Riley's designation to "athlete" they don't scare off other top QB prospects and they leave the door partially open to Riley Dodge taking some snaps next spring in Austin to see how he compares. Riley had to decide whether he was okay with those terms and he obviously said yes. He is going to be a burnt orange guy through and through and no doubt he is going to be a player for the Horns, somehow, somewhere.

I am a lifelong Texas-hater, but I sure do admire Mack Brown. Mack wasn't going to bull$#!+ the son of a prominent alumnus who is in the coaching profession about his chances at the QB spot with the Horns. Texas is going to go after top ten quarterbacks (even if they aren't interested in the best one in Texas this year ;)) and I'm sure they didn't want to mislead Riley and Todd about that.

Having seen SLC play, I am tremendously impressed with Riley Dodge and I think there are less than ten high schools in America where he would not be starting and setting records. I wish him the best of luck, I hope he and his teammates humiliate MNW, and I'd like to see another Trinity / SLC game this November.

[SLC93]

It is my guess that Riley Dodge wanted to play at Texas more than he wanted to play quarterback. My sense is that he could have been assured a shot at playing quarterback had he committed to UNT, or SMU, or a lot of programs. We can all name undersized "winner" types who did fine at the college level, starting with Doug Flutie and Lance McIlhenny and working forward through the Detmers and Drew Tate and so forth. Lots of schools would have killed for him at QB.

But Texas' position of strength allows them to dictate terms that most others can't. By shifting Riley's designation to "athlete" they don't scare off other top QB prospects and they leave the door partially open to Riley Dodge taking some snaps next spring in Austin to see how he compares. Riley had to decide whether he was okay with those terms and he obviously said yes. He is going to be a burnt orange guy through and through and no doubt he is going to be a player for the Horns, somehow, somewhere.

I am a lifelong Texas-hater, but I sure do admire Mack Brown. Mack wasn't going to bull$#!+ the son of a prominent alumnus who is in the coaching profession about his chances at the QB spot with the Horns. Texas is going to go after top ten quarterbacks (even if they aren't interested in the best one in Texas this year ;)) and I'm sure they didn't want to mislead Riley and Todd about that.

Having seen SLC play, I am tremendously impressed with Riley Dodge and I think there are less than ten high schools in America where he would not be starting and setting records. I wish him the best of luck, I hope he and his teammates humiliate MNW, and I'd like to see another Trinity / SLC game this November.

As usual, Spartan, extremely well written and thought out. Well said.:)

[Texasfrog]

It is my guess that Riley Dodge wanted to play at Texas more than he wanted to play quarterback. My sense is that he could have been assured a shot at playing quarterback had he committed to UNT, or SMU, or a lot of programs. We can all name undersized "winner" types who did fine at the college level, starting with Doug Flutie and Lance McIlhenny and working forward through the Detmers and Drew Tate and so forth. Lots of schools would have killed for him at QB.

But Texas' position of strength allows them to dictate terms that most others can't. By shifting Riley's designation to "athlete" they don't scare off other top QB prospects and they leave the door partially open to Riley Dodge taking some snaps next spring in Austin to see how he compares. Riley had to decide whether he was okay with those terms and he obviously said yes. He is going to be a burnt orange guy through and through and no doubt he is going to be a player for the Horns, somehow, somewhere.

I am a lifelong Texas-hater, but I sure do admire Mack Brown. Mack wasn't going to bull$#!+ the son of a prominent alumnus who is in the coaching profession about his chances at the QB spot with the Horns. Texas is going to go after top ten quarterbacks (even if they aren't interested in the best one in Texas this year ;)) and I'm sure they didn't want to mislead Riley and Todd about that.

Having seen SLC play, I am tremendously impressed with Riley Dodge and I think there are less than ten high schools in America where he would not be starting and setting records. I wish him the best of luck, I hope he and his teammates humiliate MNW, and I'd like to see another Trinity / SLC game this November.

Another Classic post from Spartan.:D

What I understand from looking at some of the scouting sites is that Boston College was about to offer Riley Dodge but he pulled the trigger on Texas. I think many schools backed off after that.

I think they realized that RD's blood probably is Burnt Orange no matter how many offers were out there coming his way.

[78 Spartan]

Ha! I wish my kids thought I was half as smart as I appear to have you guys bamboozled into thinking!

I have two high school sons, so I am accustomed to being told I am the biggest moron on earth. I guess that's why I spend all this time with you guys ;).

[TrojanHorse03]

People love to hate Riley Dodge. While everybody was riding on the William Cole bandwagon, they forgot that Riley had also had over 1,000 rushing yards and William Cole had 62 total td's while Riley had 67. How can you have 67 TD's and people still say you are overrated or a system QB? I dont know one system(Unless you play QB for Texas Tech or Hawaii) guarantee 67 TD's
Honestly I don't recall to much hate for Riley Dodge, maybe some isolated opinions, I may be wrong. Maybe some like myself but not all felt somebody else was more valuable than the Southlake QB. While some people might not agree (which is fine with me), you could make a good case for both QBs. If anything Cole saw way more hate for the unconvential way he got it done and for playing on a upstart team.

[trainin' the game]

People love to hate Riley Dodge. While everybody was riding on the William Cole bandwagon, they forgot that Riley had also had over 1,000 rushing yards and William Cole had 62 total td's while Riley had 67. How can you have 67 TD's and people still say you are overrated or a system QB? I dont know one system(Unless you play QB for Texas Tech or Hawaii) guarantee 67 TD's

dude what ever people love to hate this kid; it comes with being the best. was he better than william cole? maybe but who would you take cole or riley; to me you really cannot go wrong.

was he the best player in the state; imo no cole was the mvp and he proved that against garland and cy-falls; this whole drama reminds me of 2005 who's better vince young or matt lineart(sp) to me it was vince. he's a great athlete and handles pressure well; this will have to be discussed once both have made it to the next level of play and see then who excels.

[trainin' the game]

Honestly I don't recall to much hate for Riley Dodge, maybe some isolated opinions, I may be wrong. Maybe some like myself but not all felt somebody else was more valuable than the Southlake QB. While some people might not agree (which is fine with me), you could make a good case for both QBs. If anything Cole saw way more hate for the unconvential way he got it done and for playing on a upstart team.

great point could not have said it better.

[drgnbkr]

great point could not have said it better.

I agree with the "you couldn't go wrong with either"....I'd want either of them on my team..they are winners!

[SLC93]

I agree with the "you couldn't go wrong with either"....I'd want either of them on my team..they are winners!

Undefeated, state champion quartebacks are hard to find. I'm with y'all. Take em whenever you can get em!

[DragonFan0316]

OakTree, out of respect for you (because I know you actually know football and have common sense) I'm not going to touch this one.

Wow, if his name wasnt Dodge and playing at SLC (system) he would basically be a kid looking for a "ship" at some obviously second-rate "no talent" schools like Rice, SMU or even Sam Houston. Gotta love it.:rolleyes:

Your right Cajun.. I agree with you 100%. I agree with Cajun... 100% !!!;)

Riley is a gym rat and a winner. He probably wants to coach more than anything. He has heart and guts and that is good enough but throw in 4.4 speed, great instincts and field generalship and you have an exciting college player no matter where he plays.

Some don't know this but Riley will be a 19 year old HS senior. My point is, future physical growth is unlikley. Go Dragons.

[DragonFan0316]

I agree with the "you couldn't go wrong with either"....I'd want either of them on my team..they are winners!

Over 7000 posts. You are a busy person. See you at Dragon Stadium against Lake Highlands. I can't wait.

[Texasfrog]

Riley is a gym rat and a winner. He probably wants to coach more than anything. He has heart and guts and that is good enough but throw in 4.4 speed, great instincts and field generalship and you have an exciting college player no matter where he plays.

Some don't know this but Riley will be a 19 year old HS senior. My point is, future physical growth is unlikley. Go Dragons.

I couldnt agree more with you. I think when someone says that if he wasnt a Dodge and he didnt play at SLC that he would probably be headed to SHSU or Baylor is pretty funny.

I guess also being ranked like the #50 something player in the State must mean you aint that good either.:rolleyes:

[drgnbkr]

Over 7000 posts. You are a busy person. See you at Dragon Stadium against Lake Highlands. I can't wait.

I've been at it since 02...they just add up...:cool: Can't wait for Lake Highlands to make that drive accross town that we had to mak last year!

[DragonFan0316]

I've been at it since 02...they just add up...:cool: Can't wait for Lake Highlands to make that drive accross town that we had to mak last year!

Amen to that. It was a bear. I am not looking forward to the Rockwall drive.

[drgnbkr]

Amen to that. It was a bear. I am not looking forward to the Rockwall drive.

Yep...MNW and then off to Rockwall.