SV vs CHURCHILL

[aclb]

Good post from another board:

SV vs Churchill: This has all the makings of an upset. Churchill could very easily be 3-0. They outmaned Marshall, but made a couple mistakes; made mistakes against Clark and won their last game. They have some talented players that can carry the team, at this level. Also, SV is probably looking ahead to Judson.

This could be an upset special.

Also, Madison and Roosevelt should be a good one. Loser is out of the playoff hunt. 265A is almost a single elimination tourney for the 3rd playoff spot teams (Madison, Mac, Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt).

[Reaganrattler07]

Good post from another board:

SV vs Churchill: This has all the makings of an upset. Churchill could very easily be 3-0. They outmaned Marshall, but made a couple mistakes; made mistakes against Clark and won their last game. They have some talented players that can carry the team, at this level. Also, SV is probably looking ahead to Judson.

This could be an upset special.

Also, Madison and Roosevelt should be a good one. Loser is out of the playoff hunt. 265A is almost a single elimination tourney for the 3rd playoff spot teams (Madison, Mac, Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt).

Smithson Valley will be sure to take Churchill out. If Churchill wins this first one, that may give them a much better position than others in the District.

[mad_fan]

Good post from another board:

SV vs Churchill: This has all the makings of an upset. Churchill could very easily be 3-0. They outmaned Marshall, but made a couple mistakes; made mistakes against Clark and won their last game. They have some talented players that can carry the team, at this level. Also, SV is probably looking ahead to Judson.

This could be an upset special.

Also, Madison and Roosevelt should be a good one. Loser is out of the playoff hunt. 265A is almost a single elimination tourney for the 3rd playoff spot teams (Madison, Mac, Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt).

How I see it:
SV outmans Churchill
Churchill makes a couple of key mistakes
Churchill's key players fail to carry the team (at this level).
I'm a Madison guy and nobody here listens to me.

[sendero]

Comes down to line play Smithson Valley's got 'em Churchill don't. :eek:

[rattlerbacker]

Somebody (and not you, mad_fan) forgot to mention that coach Hill won't let his team look ahead. All that post from the other board says is that Churchill might have a chance if SV is off their game. Not very good odds.

[Reaganrattler07]

How I see it:
SV outmans Churchill
Churchill makes a couple of key mistakes
Churchill's key players fail to carry the team (at this level).
I'm a Madison guy and nobody here listens to me.

Ah, I listen to you.

Churchill just starts out with a pretty tough schedule. Course that doesn't bother me too much :D

[FootballJunkie]

Good post from another board:

SV vs Churchill: This has all the makings of an upset. Churchill could very easily be 3-0. They outmaned Marshall, but made a couple mistakes; made mistakes against Clark and won their last game. They have some talented players that can carry the team, at this level. Also, SV is probably looking ahead to Judson.

This could be an upset special.

Also, Madison and Roosevelt should be a good one. Loser is out of the playoff hunt. 265A is almost a single elimination tourney for the 3rd playoff spot teams (Madison, Mac, Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt).
Keep dreaming!! SV wins big :D enroute to showdown against Judson.

[Reaganrattler07]

Keep dreaming!! SV wins big :D enroute to showdown against Judson.

Yeah, Churchill just hasn't really shown that they are all that good. SV will romp'em and Judson will romp Lee as usual so it'll be that much bigger when they play.

[bubbacoach]

Coach Hill over at Smithson Valley may be the best head coach in the San Antonio area. He will not let his team look ahead to Judson. They will be better prepared, have better athletes, and make fewer mistakes than Churchill. Put a W in the S.V. win Column.

[XSVRanger]

Good post from another board:

SV vs Churchill: This has all the makings of an upset. Churchill could very easily be 3-0. They outmaned Marshall, but made a couple mistakes; made mistakes against Clark and won their last game. They have some talented players that can carry the team, at this level. Also, SV is probably looking ahead to Judson.

This could be an upset special.

Also, Madison and Roosevelt should be a good one. Loser is out of the playoff hunt. 265A is almost a single elimination tourney for the 3rd playoff spot teams (Madison, Mac, Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt).
Upsets happen, but SV is disciplined. They respect thier opponents and I doubt they'd look ahead to the next week when they still have a game to play. If Churchill brings their "A" game, I can see this being very entertaining.

[BIGrNtx12]

No offense to any Churchill fans, yall have a great team with talent, and trying not to sound cocky but I personally think this will be SV's comming out party. I think they will jump on the early and take away what little enthuiasm Churchill has. Come the 4th quarter if the game is still close, SV will overwork them and wear them down.

My Prediction
SV- 35
Church- 14

[Reaganrattler07]

Coach Hill over at Smithson Valley may be the best head coach in the San Antonio area. He will not let his team look ahead to Judson. They will be better prepared, have better athletes, and make fewer mistakes than Churchill. Put a W in the S.V. win Column.

Heck, don't jinx it...look what happened with all the Dallas fans last night...

[Gridiron Gopher]

I agree that SV should win this game. I have watched the first two games that Churchill has played and they have made a lot of mistakes. Coverage mistakes have been the killer for them on defense. The other issue is defensive speed. They don't seem to have any. They've done fairly well against the run but both Marshall and Clark showed they could pass on Churchill.
Offensively, Finuzzi is for real. The problem is that his RB's, WR's and TE have not played up to his level. Too many dorpped balls. I heard a lot about their TE Ian Harris but he has to step it up for Churchill to have a chance. In the two games that I watched, he has dropped 5 balls and 3 of them would have been TD's. That can't happen if they want to have a chance.
It seems like Finuzzi (and it could just be the plays being called) starts to try and win the game by himself at the end because.....frankly guys aren't making the plays that they should.
Churchill has had a week to iron things out so it could be a fun game to watch. I'm going to try and make the game.

[Bucky]

Upsets Happen...but not in this case. SV can beat churchill by 50 if they wanted to. Im sorry but Im so sick of hearing about Churchill having a good team. Blah..Blah...Blah churchill...blah...blah..blah...blah.. What ever..Churchill wins one more game this season and it will be against Lee..If they are lucky!!!!

*****This post is in no way intended to offend any churchill players or fans. Its my opinion ..I dont think they are very good and I think that Dave Cambell(carl padilla) ranking then in the top 20 in the preseason was a BIG JOKE!!!!!!

[mad_fan]

Coach Hill over at Smithson Valley may be the best head coach in the San Antonio area. He will not let his team look ahead to Judson. They will be better prepared, have better athletes, and make fewer mistakes than Churchill. Put a W in the S.V. win Column.


I know you are coaching bubba little league...who's the best COACH? dont make me go slcdad on you. I'll pull stats you of your....

[Reaganrattler07]

Upsets Happen...but not in this case. SV can beat churchill by 50 if they wanted to. Im sorry but Im so sick of hearing about Churchill having a good team. Blah..Blah...Blah churchill...blah...blah..blah...blah.. What ever..Churchill wins one more game this season and it will be against Lee..If they are lucky!!!!

They might've had a dose of what Reagan had the other night...over-confidence. They had a good team last year but obviously haven't done much this year. If they wanna prove they're a good team....they need to do it against a quality team. And I'll have some roast crow if they do it against SV.

[clemensbuff]

Coach Hill over at Smithson Valley may be the best head coach in the San Antonio area. He will not let his team look ahead to Judson. They will be better prepared, have better athletes, and make fewer mistakes than Churchill. Put a W in the S.V. win Column.

You hit the nail on the head! He and his staff are the best in region 4 for sure and possibly the state! They will not look past anyone even with Judson coming! Churchill will have to bring their A game to even stand a chance and if they make any mistakes, they will get blown!

[Reaganrattler07]

You hit the nail on the head! He and his staff are the best in region 4 for sure and possibly the state! They will not look past anyone even with Judson coming! Churchill will have to bring their A game to even stand a chance and if they make any mistakes, they will get blown!

Where's the game at? Comalander or Spring Branch?

[XSVRanger]

Where's the game at? Comalander or Spring Branch?
Spring Branch. Why don't you come along?

[Bucky]

I know you are coaching bubba little league...who's the best COACH? dont make me go slcdad on you. I'll pull stats you of your....


Will you translate what this says....in english. Obviously you think Streety is the best coach..and how many times has he be to the finals? Im pretty sure that he has ben coaching longer..but better than Larry Hill.. I dont think so.. You can pull all the stats out that you want..stats are for losers. The better coach between those two is no doubt ..Larry Hill..

[clemensbuff]

Will you translate what this says....in english. Obviously you think Streety is the best coach..and how many times has he be to the finals? Im pretty sure that he has ben coaching longer..but better than Larry Hill.. I dont think so.. You can pull all the stats out that you want..stats are for losers. The better coach between those two is no doubt ..Larry Hill..

Positively, without any doubt whatsoever, hands down, LARRY HILL!

[mad_fan]

Will you translate what this says....in english. Obviously you think Streety is the best coach..and how many times has he be to the finals? Im pretty sure that he has ben coaching longer..but better than Larry Hill.. I dont think so.. You can pull all the stats out that you want..stats are for losers. The better coach between those two is no doubt ..Larry Hill..

Translation: That was meant for bubbacoach.

Now why change the subject from the thread topic (sv v churchill), wherein, I disageed with a posters comment, to another topic: losing coaches in the finals? i'm positive streety wont win that one.

Stats are just stats.

[bubbacoach]

As the buckmiester was saying if you want to compare Hill and Streety step up. I do not care what Streety has accomplished. He is not even in the same league with Larry Hill. Hill might not have the wins that Streety has in his career, but if you want to compare trips to the finals, winning percentage over the last 10 years, etc. Step up. There is no comparison.

[svrangerfan]

I don't know what Churchill has but they won't beat SV. Whoever first said Hill won't let them overlook WC is absolutely right. I hope we can jump on them early like we did Temple and lots of guys can play but WC is not Temple.

Hill vs Streety?? Hill can take hizzun' an' beat yourin' then he can take yourin and beat hizzun. Bum Phillips said that about Don Shula but it is just as true here.

[mad_fan]

As the buckmiester was saying if you want to compare Hill and Streety step up. I do not care what Streety has accomplished. He is not even in the same league with Larry Hill. Hill might not have the wins that Streety has in his career, but if you want to compare trips to the finals, winning percentage over the last 10 years, etc. Step up. There is no comparison.

I have conceeded the point of the finals. That is something we have in common...no championships. So what do we compare. Wins and losses. Longevity (you married?). Win percentages. Personality. Likability.

I disagree with your statement:Coach Hill over at Smithson Valley may be the best head coach in the San Antonio area...

I can't see anything that will change my position.

PS Already looked up their lifetime stats, this should make things interesting...

6 Jim Streety____ 260 - 98 - 3 73% San Antonio/NE Madison
80 Larry Hill______129 - 48 - 0 73% Spring Branch Smithson Valley
(beginning 2005 season)
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/2005top200coaches.html

[DiamondJ2]

SV has it made, they can start planning & looking ahead to the MacArthur game and where they need to make reservations for another SLC showdown.

[Xfballphenome05]

Its hard to not look ahead to the judson game because 1.churchill is overrated.2.Judson is underrated.3and churchill is 1-2.should be a decent 1st quarter but SV pulls away 37-3.

[bubbacoach]

Mad Fan To reply to your remarks. Do I coach "Bubba....little league"? No I coach 5A Texas football, but I have coached little league. Remember me I am the one who cut you in T-ball a couple of years ago. Am I married? I do not know how this matters, but you can ask your mommy if I am married. Do not ask personal questions if you do not want smart *** answers. I was just messing with you with my response, but let's just talk X's and O's. Don't get personal.

[bubbacoach]

I have conceeded the point of the finals. That is something we have in common...no championships. So what do we compare. Wins and losses. Longevity (you married?). Win percentages. Personality. Likability.

I disagree with your statement:

I can't see anything that will change my position.

PS Already looked up their lifetime stats, this should make things interesting...

6 Jim Streety____ 260 - 98 - 3 73% San Antonio/NE Madison
80 Larry Hill______129 - 48 - 0 73% Spring Branch Smithson Valley
(beginning 2005 season)
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/2005top200coaches.html

Let's just talk about what they have done at their current school.
6 Jim Streety-----111-53-1 68% at Madison
80 Larry Hill------119-37-0 76% at SV

This comes from your web site

[mad_fan]

Mad Fan To reply to your remarks. Do I coach "Bubba....little league"? No I coach 5A Texas football, but I have coached little league. Remember me I am the one who cut you in T-ball a couple of years ago. Am I married? I do not know how this matters, but you can ask your mommy if I am married. Do not ask personal questions if you do not want smart *** answers. I was just messing with you with my response, but let's just talk X's and O's. Don't get personal.

And I can conceeded the point that it was a stupid place to go...and still not agree with you...now. In the longer term I may change my mind, I'll just reserve that right. :D

[bubbacoach]

We all have the right to our opinion. Right or wrong. Unless we are coaching or playing Friday night we have no factor in the outcome of the game.

[bullrock]

I've got the striped shirt, where's the ring? Oh, and don't forget to bring your own boxing gloves.
It's funny what gets someones goat. I took that as a joke bubba. Maybe yours is too, but it sure doesn't appear to be.

[bubbacoach]

I've got the striped shirt, where's the ring? Oh, and don't forget to bring your own boxing gloves.
It's funny what gets someones goat. I took that as a joke bubba. Maybe yours is too, but it sure doesn't appear to be.


Read it again.

[bullrock]

Okay.

[clemensbuff]

I have conceeded the point of the finals. That is something we have in common...no championships. So what do we compare. Wins and losses. Longevity (you married?). Win percentages. Personality. Likability.

I disagree with your statement:

I can't see anything that will change my position.

PS Already looked up their lifetime stats, this should make things interesting...

6 Jim Streety____ 260 - 98 - 3 73% San Antonio/NE Madison
80 Larry Hill______129 - 48 - 0 73% Spring Branch Smithson Valley
(beginning 2005 season)
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/2005top200coaches.html

That stat is very interesting. The way I look at it is Streety got the biggest percentage of wins in the years at NB when the Unicorns managed to just stay a couple of kids short of 5a for many years. Hill on the other hand took a complete doormat team (everybody's pick for homecoming game before he took the program) and within a couple of years has built one heck of a program. If Hill stays at SV, there is not a doubt in my mind that that 73% will rise every year that he's there. However, I wouldn't think the same in Streety's case. Don't get me wrong, Streety is a good coach, but not in the same league with Hill!

[Fleeman93]

Is it going to be hard to get a ticket to this game? Going to try and catch it since I will be in SA for Rita. Any thoughts on a good game for Sat night?

[sendero]

Shouldn't be hard to get a ticket but the SV parking lot is terrible in relation to the stadium prepare for a short walk. Traffic can be a nightmare as well. Sounds like most Saturday games may be moving to Friday where possible. If you are here on Thursday you might want to go to MAC vs. Reagan at Comalander.

[bullrock]

Or you could come and watch the scrimmage at Judson stadium. There is going to be plenty of room and the parking is good compared to most.

[Fleeman93]

Judson game Friday night?

[bullrock]

Yes. They are playing Lee. I read on this board it has been moved to Judson stadium to accomdate rescheduled Saturday night games at Lees home field (Comalander).

[Fleeman93]

My friend that I am staying with lives right by there, but I kinda want to see a good game.

[bullrock]

I don't know who Clemens is playing or where, but if they're playing at home, they have a very entertaining program all around. If you're close to Judson, SV is not that far away. That might be the best game in town for a quarter or so.

[Fleeman93]

I do want to see SV, Judson and Clemens. I should go see Judson if I think Katy will go D1 and SV if I think D2, but I have no clue at this point. Think I might just stick with SV.

[bullrock]

If you've never been to the Rangers stadium you're in for a treat! It's a carnival atmosphere out there. Almost like going to a 2A game with food booths set up and tailgating going on, not to mention, the area is beautiful. One of the best settings I have experienced for high school football. If all of my clothes weren't red and gray, I could get into the Ranger program.

[Fleeman93]

I have a ton of respect for the SV program, but I still have a grudge after they beat us in 2002.

[bullrock]

You can't win them all.

[DiamondJ2]

rockets haven't won them all, but they have won it all.

[Reaganrattler07]

If you've never been to the Rangers stadium you're in for a treat! It's a carnival atmosphere out there. Almost like going to a 2A game with food booths set up and tailgating going on, not to mention, the area is beautiful. One of the best settings I have experienced for high school football. If all of my clothes weren't red and gray, I could get into the Ranger program.

Visitor's grand stand isn't the best thing....and parking isn't plentiful. But it's a good atmosphere for the home team...which I guess is the only thing that really matters.

[clemensbuff]

I don't know who Clemens is playing or where, but if they're playing at home, they have a very entertaining program all around. If you're close to Judson, SV is not that far away. That might be the best game in town for a quarter or so.

Clemens is at the Rock Pile on Thursday against Highlands. It will probably not be much of a game.

[zippy]

Trust me, you should be happy that SV won that game, did you not see what they ran into at the finals? You didnt want to be there, thats for sure.


I have a ton of respect for the SV program, but I still have a grudge after they beat us in 2002.

[zippy]

I wouldnt call it "grand" stands, well if we were 6-man I guess you could. They are horrible!


Visitor's grand stand isn't the best thing....and parking isn't plentiful. But it's a good atmosphere for the home team...which I guess is the only thing that really matters.

[Reaganrattler07]

I wouldnt call it "grand" stands, well if we were 6-man I guess you could. They are horrible!

Haha, well they technically are "grand" just in size though....I was still a lil worried that the wood would give out and y'all would have to deal with like 1000 people falling over at once...hehe, it'd be kinda funny to see the "beat and blow" boys to fall over. Ah, I'm cruel sometimes :p

[aclb]

Well, Well, Well

Read The Original Post!!!!!

[Reaganrattler07]

Well, Well, Well

Read The Original Post!!!!!

Oh, the first one....good call on this one