San Antonio Football

[bubbacoach]

I made the statement in a thread that San Antonio Football was down this year and got several replies that I was wrong. I have been aroung San Antonio football for the last 21 years as a player and a coach. Somebody tell my who is legit besides Judson and Smithson Valley this year? I don't want to hear about third place teams in districts. I want to know if anyone other than these two teams can make a push for a title?

[Slim-Rob]

Clemens is looking good. Marshall is ranked better then Judson in SA according to KSAT 12 News. Here is how they rank them:
1. Spring Branch Smithson Valley
2. Schertz Clemens
3. Marshall
4. Converse Judson

Judson scrimaged Marshall and it was clear that Judson was the better team. I don't know who Marshall has played so far this year but I don't see them being better than Judson. Clemens had a great team last year but they had some injuries that made them useless against Judson in week 11. Smithson Valley has done good. Judson lost to Copperas Cove 20-19 in a very close, last second game. Judson missed 2 PATs and a field goal that was about 40 yards. Judson and Smithson Valley share a common opponent in Pflugerville. Both won, and the Week 5 Judson vs. Smithson Valley will be one of the best games in San Antonio this year.

[RedRage00]

Marshall is overrated. I saw them play Victoria and they couldn't get anything going against a struggling Vipers team. It was 19-3.

Then they barely squeak by Laredo Nixon 28-14. If they were a top 5 team in SA they would have beaten Victoria and Nixon by much more than that.

[Bucky]

I think Clemens is as good as they have been is recent years and will give Judson a better game. Not sure how the split will affect them down the line as far as depth.... I think if they get past Judson they will make some noise ..but you are right Bubba..no real stand outs besides SV and Judson and they maybe down a little bit. I watched Judson and something is missing. Iwill try to make the SV-Judson game..as a Judson fan ..that one has me worried.. Good news is Judson got that 6'3'' stud QB that transfered in from new orleans last week and he gets to play against the Vally!!!

[lonny23]

San Antonio football ends in Week 11. When Judson beats Clemens, they'll be on their way to the semis. SV has clear sailing in D2. Marshall and a few other teams will be good, but it will be a major surprise to see Judson or SV not get to the semis. What SA lacks in top talent, they seem to have made up for with more depth than some years.

[lonny23]

I think Clemens is as good as they have been is recent years and will give Judson a better game. Not sure how the split will affect them down the line as far as depth.... I think if they get past Judson they will make some noise ..but you are right Bubba..no real stand outs besides SV and Judson and they maybe down a little bit. I watched Judson and something is missing. Iwill try to make the SV-Judson game..as a Judson fan ..that one has me worried.. Good news is Judson got that 6'3'' stud QB that transfered in from new orleans last week and he gets to play against the Vally!!!
I was wondering what was going to happen with the good football players from South Louisiana. You had to have a pretty good idea that some of these guys would go to good teams.

[gibberish]

Clemens has a very good shot at the title this year. It’s a little weird that all the pre season hype was around the offense (James Henry) but it’s been the defense that has just dominated. The only time the offense has really got it going was against lesser opponents.

I have seen both Judson and Clemens play and the team that gets the offense rolling first will more than likely be the D 1 rep from region 4.

I also still think it’s a little to early to count out a lot of teams. But Smithson Valley, Clemens and Judson are clearly above the rest.

P.S. statrank.com gets updated after week 3 correct. If not does anyone know when.

[bubbacoach]

San Antonio football ends in Week 11. When Judson beats Clemens, they'll be on their way to the semis. SV has clear sailing in D2. Marshall and a few other teams will be good, but it will be a major surprise to see Judson or SV not get to the semis. What SA lacks in top talent, they seem to have made up for with more depth than some years.

Lonny my friend you are right in that S.A. does not have the top talent, but it is not the depth of the successful playoff teams in S.A. that make a difference. It is the Coaching and the discipline in these programs.

[FootballJunkie]

I made the statement in a thread that San Antonio Football was down this year and got several replies that I was wrong. I have been aroung San Antonio football for the last 21 years as a player and a coach. Somebody tell my who is legit besides Judson and Smithson Valley this year? I don't want to hear about third place teams in districts. I want to know if anyone other than these two teams can make a push for a title?

I said in another post that it was SV and Judson then everybody else and everyone said I was crazy. Although it is the truth ;) . Good luck getting anyone in SA to believe the truth.

[lonny23]

Lonny my friend you are right in that S.A. does not have the top talent, but it is not the depth of the successful playoff teams in S.A. that make a difference. It is the Coaching and the discipline in these programs.
You're right. When I said talent and depth I wasn't talking about players and was referring to how good the teams are.

[Bucky]

Clemens has a very good shot at the title this year. It’s a little weird that all the pre season hype was around the offense (James Henry) but it’s been the defense that has just dominated. The only time the offense has really got it going was against lesser opponents.

I have seen both Judson and Clemens play and the team that gets the offense rolling first will more than likely be the D 1 rep from region 4.

I also still think it’s a little to early to count out a lot of teams. But Smithson Valley, Clemens and Judson are clearly above the rest.

P.S. statrank.com gets updated after week 3 correct. If not does anyone know when.


No offense to any Buff fans but Henry has not impressed me. I saw him a couple times last year and he is fast but not a real tough runner. I have not seen him this year..He might be better. Clemens usually has a better defense then they do offense. I would say that he is a good back but not a great back. Maybe its their offensive line thats not that good..I dont know but Henry has not made me think he is that good!!! Sorry if that offends anyone!! (not really!!)

[RedRage00]

I said in another post that it was SV and Judson then everybody else and everyone said I was crazy. Although it is the truth ;) . Good luck getting anyone in SA to believe the truth.

I am not originally from SA (I moved here in June-04), but I did notice that SA football is a little down from last season so far. I think even Judson is a little down. Smithson Valley will be awesome though.

I'm still looking forward to some great games though :D

RR

[lonny23]

Clemens is looking good. Marshall is ranked better then Judson in SA according to KSAT 12 News. Here is how they rank them:
1. Spring Branch Smithson Valley
2. Schertz Clemens
3. Marshall
4. Converse Judson

Judson scrimaged Marshall and it was clear that Judson was the better team. I don't know who Marshall has played so far this year but I don't see them being better than Judson. Clemens had a great team last year but they had some injuries that made them useless against Judson in week 11. Smithson Valley has done good. Judson lost to Copperas Cove 20-19 in a very close, last second game. Judson missed 2 PATs and a field goal that was about 40 yards. Judson and Smithson Valley share a common opponent in Pflugerville. Both won, and the Week 5 Judson vs. Smithson Valley will be one of the best games in San Antonio this year.
I get tired of this crap every year. It shouldn't bother me much since I know it will happen, but there is no truth in the San Antonio media. That's why I hate the Spurs and never did like a lot of the things about SA when I lived there.

The media thinks everybody is tired of Judson, so they find every excuse possible to put another team in front of the Rockets. Every year, they hold on to an undefeated team and promote them as greater than the Rockets and then come playoff time, they dust off all the Judson articles. Last year it was Madison and this year it's Marshall. I still say Judson should be above SV until somebody in SA can beat them. You can't even put Clemens up there. I guess they want to stimulate football interest by trying to fool the populace into thinking the city is wide open. Hey, Marshall and Clemens are good teams, but they're not Judson.

[badger95]

Clemens has Henry, and even though he's a special player, that won't be enough to push them near a title. They could do well in Region 4 with a favorable draw in the playoffs, but I think Judson and Smithson Valley would handle them pretty well. I saw them play vs. Austin High and their QB play will get them beat. All they really need to do is hand it off to Henry, but the starter fumbled two snaps. Also, compared to Clemens teams of the past, especially 2003, they were not very disciplined or focused.

I think that San Marcos will win that district pretty easily.

[bullrock]

I need to know more about this 6'3" QB from La. It would be a waste to put a great QB into our past system. I still haven't seen the "new and improved" offense this year. I know they're working on a new offense, I just haven't been too impressed yet. The only excitement I get is when they hand the ball off to the FB. That's when we make most of our yards. In the past everyone knew who was going to get the ball. They usually couldn't stop him. With McDaniel, if there is a defender within 5 yards of him he goes down. He is a good back, just not great. Maybe a little option would be good with an athletic QB and McD could use his speed around the corner.

[bubbacoach]

I get tired of this crap every year. It shouldn't bother me much since I know it will happen, but there is no truth in the San Antonio media. That's why I hate the Spurs and never did like a lot of the things about SA when I lived there.

The media thinks everybody is tired of Judson, so they find every excuse possible to put another team in front of the Rockets. Every year, they hold on to an undefeated team and promote them as greater than the Rockets and then come playoff time, they dust off all the Judson articles. Last year it was Madison and this year it's Marshall. I still say Judson should be above SV until somebody in SA can beat them. You can't even put Clemens up there. I guess they want to stimulate football interest by trying to fool the populace into thinking the city is wide open. Hey, Marshall and Clemens are good teams, but they're not Judson.

Lonny it is all propaganda to sell newspapers.

[mad_fan]

I get tired of this crap every year. It shouldn't bother me much since I know it will happen, but there is no truth in the San Antonio media. That's why I hate the Spurs and never did like a lot of the things about SA when I lived there.

You read my mind...

Check out Express-News KENS-TV web site at mysa.com...
"Late turnover saves Madison"

I would have said...
"Turnovers almost cost Madison"

The difference? One makes it like Madison lucked out. Maybe they did. The other provides more information as to why the game with O'Connor was so close (21-17).

Did anyone else hear this game? I wanted crawl though the phone and beat the sh*& out of one of those announcers. He must have a kid at O'Connor or something.

I dont think Madison has ever had much support in the media. The media just cant totally ignore Madison's consistent performance over time.

P.S. Look at how Madison has done since the 3-point loss to a good San Marcos team in Week 0. Look at the ground game (two-dimensional as it is). Turnovers were the problem last week. Streety will address and resolve that. No mad man SA ratings again this week because I know the sleeper team around SA this year. If I published my ratings I would just get a lot of flak again and nobody would be happy. Except maybe some Judson guys.

[RedRage00]

You read my mind...

Check out Express-News KENS-TV web site at mysa.com...
"Late turnover saves Madison"

I would have said...
"Turnovers almost cost Madison"

The difference? One makes it like Madison lucked out. Maybe they did. The other provides more information as to why the game with O'Connor was so close (21-17).

Did anyone else hear this game? I wanted crawl though the phone and beat the sh*& out of one of those announcers. He must have a kid at O'Connor or something.

I dont think Madison has ever had much support in the media. The media just cant totally ignore Madison's consistent performance over time.

P.S. Look at how Madison has done since the 3-point loss to a good San Marcos team in Week 0. Look at the ground game (two-dimensional as it is). Turnovers were the problem last week. Streety will address and resolve that. No mad man SA ratings again this week because I know the sleeper team around SA this year. If I published my ratings I would just get a lot of flak again and nobody would be happy. Except maybe some Judson guys.

I was at the Madison-Oconnor game and Madison still has a lot of work to do. First off, they need a new punter cause that kid couldn't punt at all LOL. I hope they continue to improve because this isn't the same type of team I saw last season. Too many mistakes.

Turnovers almost cost Madison

TO #1. Oconnor returns fumble for a TD (14-7 Madison)
TO #2. Oconnor recovers onside kick-led to TD (14-14 all)
TO #3. Led to Oconnor FG (17-14 OC)

All of OC points were off of TO's. And they were about to score the winning TD until Madison recovered a fumble with 50 seconds left!

RR

[RedRage00]

The media thinks everybody is tired of Judson, so they find every excuse possible to put another team in front of the Rockets. Every year, they hold on to an undefeated team and promote them as greater than the Rockets and then come playoff time, they dust off all the Judson articles. Last year it was Madison and this year it's Marshall. I still say Judson should be above SV until somebody in SA can beat them. You can't even put Clemens up there. I guess they want to stimulate football interest by trying to fool the populace into thinking the city is wide open. Hey, Marshall and Clemens are good teams, but they're not Judson.

Where do you get this from? I have only lived in SA a little over a year and I have yet to come across someone that is "tired" of the Rockets. Everyone knows Judson is good, what more do you want? And last year Judson was ranked #1 for almost the entire year (after Madison beat then #1 Oconnor). Madison was never ranked ahead of the Rockets in the Express-News.

I hope Marshall improves because right now they are overrated.

RR

[mad_fan]

I was at the Madison-Oconnor game and Madison still has a lot of work to do. First off, they need a new punter cause that kid couldn't punt at all LOL. I hope they continue to improve because this isn't the same type of team I saw last season. Too many mistakes.

Turnovers almost cost Madison

TO #1. Oconnor returns fumble for a TD (14-7 Madison)
TO #2. Oconnor recovers onside kick-led to TD (14-14 all)
TO #3. Led to Oconnor FG (17-14 OC)

All of OC points were off of TO's. And they were about to score the winning TD until Madison recovered a fumble with 50 seconds left!

RR
I assume you would go with my headline.

We don't need no stinking punter...we shouldn't have to punt! :D

[RedRage00]

I assume you would go with my headline.

We don't need no stinking punter...we shouldn't have to punt! :D

The punter averaged what? 5 yards a punt LOL

I am not from Madison, but I could hear everyone around getting pissed at his punts LOL

But I think he only punted like 2 or 3 times (and they were bad ones).

[mad_fan]

The punter averaged what? 5 yards a punt LOL

I am not from Madison, but I could hear everyone around getting pissed at his punts LOL

But I think he only punted like 2 or 3 times (and they were bad ones).

I dont think he's a punter, I think he's standing where the punter stands when they're punting.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Lonny, I agree with you on the media, but you have to look at how much they really put into their rankings......If you win, you move up, if you lose you move down. It doesn't matter to them who you played when you lost or who you played when you won. It's pretty much something any 5th grader could put out there.
As for who the best teams are in the SA area......there should be no question that it's Judson and SV and then the rest. Clemens would probably lead that next group of teams.
On the subject of talent levels, once the district games start and we see how some of the other teams stack up to Judson and SV we really won't know if talent has dropped or just evened out. Again we have to remember that with all the new neighborhoods (last 10 years) in the NEISD around 1604 from 281 to Bulverde, the kids are now being spread out between Churchill, Reagan, MacArthur and Madison. O'Conner should continue to grow with talent but it looks to me like they are too young and slow for this year. Warren will get better as they get older.
If you had to put a gun to my head, I would tell you that the talent level is being spread out more and that might be a factor in the perceived lack of talent. Unfortunately for Judson and SV, they will soon feel this a bit. They will still have great athletic programs but the talent will be divided and that will effect their overall performance. Injuries will become more of a lose because of the lose of depth. Coaching will also help keep them at the top level. It does make a difference.

[clemensbuff]

Clemens has Henry, and even though he's a special player, that won't be enough to push them near a title. They could do well in Region 4 with a favorable draw in the playoffs, but I think Judson and Smithson Valley would handle them pretty well. I saw them play vs. Austin High and their QB play will get them beat. All they really need to do is hand it off to Henry, but the starter fumbled two snaps. Also, compared to Clemens teams of the past, especially 2003, they were not very disciplined or focused.

I think that San Marcos will win that district pretty easily.

Hey badger95, it was 30-7 at the half! I know the offense played a terrible 2nd half and that the QB is still struggling. If he comes around and starts playing like he's capable of, then we will not be a pushover for anyone. If you saw the game then you saw ASFA only have one big play for the entire game! Half of their offense came on that play!

One final thing, if you think that SM will win that district pretty easily, you know exactly nothing about HS football. By the way, what Badger team are you from, Karnes City?

[clemensbuff]

I get tired of this crap every year. It shouldn't bother me much since I know it will happen, but there is no truth in the San Antonio media. That's why I hate the Spurs and never did like a lot of the things about SA when I lived there.

The media thinks everybody is tired of Judson, so they find every excuse possible to put another team in front of the Rockets. Every year, they hold on to an undefeated team and promote them as greater than the Rockets and then come playoff time, they dust off all the Judson articles. Last year it was Madison and this year it's Marshall. I still say Judson should be above SV until somebody in SA can beat them. You can't even put Clemens up there. I guess they want to stimulate football interest by trying to fool the populace into thinking the city is wide open. Hey, Marshall and Clemens are good teams, but they're not Judson.

Lonny, I have agreed with 90% of what you have posted here, but hating the Spurs because of the Media. What is that all about? What lies have the Press told about the spurs that make you hate them?

I also agree that Judson should be ranked above Clemens especially after the A-- Kickin' they put on us in the first round last year. I do agree that the SA media has always put the SA schools on a pedistal for no good reason other than they may be undefeated and Judson not at that particular time. I always say, look who a loss or two might have came from and not the 5-0 record against a bunch of so-so competition. Your last comment couldn't be more true, Clemens and Marshall are definately not Judson, nobody in the state can claim all they have accomplished what the Rockets have. I can tell you this also, Marshall is way over-rated. Just look who they have played so far and what the scores were in those games!

[clemensbuff]

No offense to any Buff fans but Henry has not impressed me. I saw him a couple times last year and he is fast but not a real tough runner. I have not seen him this year..He might be better. Clemens usually has a better defense then they do offense. I would say that he is a good back but not a great back. Maybe its their offensive line thats not that good..I dont know but Henry has not made me think he is that good!!! Sorry if that offends anyone!! (not really!!)

I would totally agree with you on James not running as tough as his size should dictate! He fought an ankle injury all season last year and that could have affected the way that he ran. He has run a little stronger this year than last year. And you are right about the O-Line. They are making completely too many mistakes in their blocking schemes! I think that will a few more weeks of practice and games they might start getting it a little better. On our defense; speaking with a couple of the coaches and watching them so far this year, we are at least as strong as the 2003 semi-final team.

[sendero]

I think like most of you that teams look down this year. I try to tell myself that I am comparing what they looked like at the end of last year compared to what they look like at the first of this year. It takes time for everything to gel. I didn't think SV put it together until they played Madison last year which Madison probably played their worst game. I attribute that to the "Judson factor".

My definition of the "Judson factor" is that teams get a harsh dose of reality after having Judson deflate what you thought you were as a team. MacArthur benefited from it last year against SV almost pulling the upset and SV benefited from it against Madison. (Of course this is my opinion)

The 2-6-5 is Judson's district until someone steps up and takes it from them.

[DiamondJ2]

madfan, calm down. It will all work out for the Mavs. They will make the playoffs. Mac is just playing around until they get to some good old 26-5A competition. Don't count out the Church on the Hill yet either, but I'm putting my money on the Mavs for the playoffs.

As for Channel 12, most coaches feel that they are biased towards Judson anyway with the close association of Simmons with past AD Arnold and Coach Rutledge and the carry over to Coach Rackley. Yes, Marshall is overrated, but that district needs somebody to be up in the rankings. Look out for Jay.

SV, Judson & possibly Clemens (pretty weak non-district schedule as well as district) are way above the rest of the city.

[mad_fan]

madfan, calm down. It will all work out for the Mavs. They will make the playoffs. Mac is just playing around until they get to some good old 26-5A competition. Don't count out the Church on the Hill yet either, but I'm putting my money on the Mavs for the playoffs.

As for Channel 12, most coaches feel that they are biased towards Judson anyway with the close association of Simmons with past AD Arnold and Coach Rutledge and the carry over to Coach Rackley. Yes, Marshall is overrated, but that district needs somebody to be up in the rankings. Look out for Jay.

SV, Judson & possibly Clemens (pretty weak non-district schedule as well as district) are way above the rest of the city.

Alright Diamond, deep breath (on my part). Don't tell everybody about the Mavericks, it's a secret.

As for the rest of your rant :D , I have tried long and hard to forget a lot of things about SA since in left there (just a lot about the city I dont like). SO you bring up that piece of dog %$#@, no sports playin'*&^%, no broadcasting *&$#@ Simmons. Enough said. :D

PS I grew up going to the Church on the Hill. Smaller back them, less land, comfortable...that was one of the thing I liked about SA.

[mad_fan]

Where do you get this from? I have only lived in SA a little over a year and I have yet to come across someone that is "tired" of the Rockets. Everyone knows Judson is good, what more do you want? And last year Judson was ranked #1 for almost the entire year (after Madison beat then #1 Oconnor). Madison was never ranked ahead of the Rockets in the Express-News.

I hope Marshall improves because right now they are overrated.

RR

You're not looking hard enough. :D

[rattlerbacker]

I don't think anyone takes the 25 crown "easily." I haven't seen any real separation by Clemens, San Marcos and Seguin in their respective competition so far to believe it will be easy for any of those three to win. I do put Clemens as the favorite simply because they won the title undefeated last year and they get both of the other contenders at home this year but way too much can happen between now and the end of the season to call any of them a sure thing, IMO. Since all 3 play good defense I don't see a blowout in any of those games either.

[Go Buffs]

No offense to any Buff fans but Henry has not impressed me. I saw him a couple times last year and he is fast but not a real tough runner. I have not seen him this year..He might be better. Clemens usually has a better defense then they do offense. I would say that he is a good back but not a great back. Maybe its their offensive line thats not that good..I dont know but Henry has not made me think he is that good!!! Sorry if that offends anyone!! (not really!!)
No offense taken Bucky, because you're right to a large degree. IMO his speed and his size make up most of his success. I've been watching for 2+ seasons now and he really doesn't have "running back moves". Also he rarely stiff arms and doesn't always seem willing to put his head down for the extra yard. Teams have learned not to tackle him high, as that's the tackle he's most likely to break. Most teams have learned to go for the legs and that works about 99% of the time. I would think the coaches would teach him high knee techniques or something to combat this, but so far not.

The whole key for Henry is to be in open space. I can't see him playing running back at all in college, but he'll be great at safety on the next level. If he were to play offense in college, I think he'd be an awesome wide receiver. He's got the size, speed, seemingly good hands, and he'd be in more open spaces where's he really deadly. Hopefully Stoops gives him a shot at WR, because I think he could really bust out at that position. (Or Mack or Fran, if the stories are true that he's taking those visits after all)

[mad_fan]

I was at the Madison-Oconnor game and Madison still has a lot of work to do.


Reread your post...further comments...what do you mean ALOT? I addressed the punting and ball control previously. There is not ALOT of work to do. Didnt the half stats say that...14-0 Madison, O'Connor 90 yds of offense (that's awful against a tiny Madison defense). Ball control and it was a 35-3 game. Ball control and total O would have been a lot greater than 420 yds to 280 yds.

[Go Buffs]

As far as the topic goes, Clemens' defense is good enough to put them on the elite Region 4 level with SV and Judson, but the offense is the worst I've seen at Clemens in a loooong time. It'd take a heck of a turnaround for them to have any shot at beating Judson in round 1. Either that or the Buffs defense would have to win it on their own with some generosity and screw ups from the Rockets.

This year's Clemens team is pretty much the Baltimore Ravens. All defense, almost no offense. They should have no trouble winning district and, if they were to get by Judson, they're good enough to get to the semi's.

[sendero]

I agree on the Judson vs. Clemens for Region IV DI title too bad it has to be the first week of the playoffs. :(

[clemensbuff]

No offense taken Bucky, because you're right to a large degree. IMO his speed and his size make up most of his success. I've been watching for 2+ seasons now and he really doesn't have "running back moves". Also he rarely stiff arms and doesn't always seem willing to put his head down for the extra yard. Teams have learned not to tackle him high, as that's the tackle he's most likely to break. Most teams have learned to go for the legs and that works about 99% of the time. I would think the coaches would teach him high knee techniques or something to combat this, but so far not.

The whole key for Henry is to be in open space. I can't see him playing running back at all in college, but he'll be great at safety on the next level. If he were to play offense in college, I think he'd be an awesome wide receiver. He's got the size, speed, seemingly good hands, and he'd be in more open spaces where's he really deadly. Hopefully Stoops gives him a shot at WR, because I think he could really bust out at that position. (Or Mack or Fran, if the stories are true that he's taking those visits after all)

I hope the last sentence of your post is true! ANYWHERE BUT OU!!! I agree with everything you said. He definately could make one hell of a wide out! But I think he'll play safety wherever he ends up.

[Reaganrattler07]

Lonny, I agree with you on the media, but you have to look at how much they really put into their rankings......If you win, you move up, if you lose you move down. It doesn't matter to them who you played when you lost or who you played when you won. It's pretty much something any 5th grader could put out there.
As for who the best teams are in the SA area......there should be no question that it's Judson and SV and then the rest. Clemens would probably lead that next group of teams.
On the subject of talent levels, once the district games start and we see how some of the other teams stack up to Judson and SV we really won't know if talent has dropped or just evened out. Again we have to remember that with all the new neighborhoods (last 10 years) in the NEISD around 1604 from 281 to Bulverde, the kids are now being spread out between Churchill, Reagan, MacArthur and Madison. O'Conner should continue to grow with talent but it looks to me like they are too young and slow for this year. Warren will get better as they get older.
If you had to put a gun to my head, I would tell you that the talent level is being spread out more and that might be a factor in the perceived lack of talent. Unfortunately for Judson and SV, they will soon feel this a bit. They will still have great athletic programs but the talent will be divided and that will effect their overall performance. Injuries will become more of a lose because of the lose of depth. Coaching will also help keep them at the top level. It does make a difference.


About the building around 1604 and 281, it's really unfair for the people who moved their and have their kids go back to the same school they just came from. There have been a few stories on the news where people were upset that they try to move into the Reagan area but get turned away back to Macarthur, Churchill, Madison, etc.

And mad fan...isn't Tony Green the punter/kicker as well?

[clemensbuff]

madfan, calm down. It will all work out for the Mavs. They will make the playoffs. Mac is just playing around until they get to some good old 26-5A competition. Don't count out the Church on the Hill yet either, but I'm putting my money on the Mavs for the playoffs.

As for Channel 12, most coaches feel that they are biased towards Judson anyway with the close association of Simmons with past AD Arnold and Coach Rutledge and the carry over to Coach Rackley. Yes, Marshall is overrated, but that district needs somebody to be up in the rankings. Look out for Jay.

SV, Judson & possibly Clemens (pretty weak non-district schedule as well as district) are way above the rest of the city.

I think you need to look out for Jay every year about this time, but somehow they just seem to go to pot towards the end of the year. They have been impressive so far this year and maybe they'll win that district. O'conner had a good team last year but year after year the Northside district is totally dominated by the NE schools! Nothing wrong with that, is there? I agree with the week district except for SM and maybe Seguin. I hope that Ferrara will keep the starters in at least three full quarters in all the other district games this year no matter the score. It may or may not help when it comes to the playoffs, but the more work they get in games the better they should get. In 26-5a it really sucks that 2 or 3 playoff capable teams stay home every year, but the three that do make it are more than ready to play!

[Slim-Rob]

I think Clemens is as good as they have been is recent years and will give Judson a better game. Not sure how the split will affect them down the line as far as depth.... I think if they get past Judson they will make some noise ..but you are right Bubba..no real stand outs besides SV and Judson and they maybe down a little bit. I watched Judson and something is missing. Iwill try to make the SV-Judson game..as a Judson fan ..that one has me worried.. Good news is Judson got that 6'3'' stud QB that transfered in from new orleans last week and he gets to play against the Vally!!!

where did you make that up at?:)

[mad_fan]

Caflisch and Green swap kicking duties.

[clemensbuff]

I think like most of you that teams look down this year. I try to tell myself that I am comparing what they looked like at the end of last year compared to what they look like at the first of this year. It takes time for everything to gel. I didn't think SV put it together until they played Madison last year which Madison probably played their worst game. I attribute that to the "Judson factor".

My definition of the "Judson factor" is that teams get a harsh dose of reality after having Judson deflate what you thought you were as a team. MacArthur benefited from it last year against SV almost pulling the upset and SV benefited from it against Madison. (Of course this is my opinion)

The 2-6-5 is Judson's district until someone steps up and takes it from them.

Judson usually gives a healthy dose of reality to everyone they play. If you beat them, you earned it, especially if you do it at their place! And 26-5a is Judson's district until one of the other teams can take it from them! Clemens did it in 2003 and it didn't come without a dog fight!

[FootballJunkie]

Judson usually gives a healthy dose of reality to everyone they play. If you beat them, you earned it, especially if you do it at their place! And 26-5a is Judson's district until one of the other teams can take it from them! Clemens did it in 2003 and it didn't come without a dog fight!
If Clemens did take it they gave it right back losing in 2004 31-0!!

[clemensbuff]

If Clemens did take it they gave it right back losing in 2004 31-0!!

AS I HAVE AGNOLEDGED IN PAST POSTS. READ MY POST AND YOU'LL SEE I'M COMMENDING JUDSON IN EVERYTHING THAT I SAID. Is it just that you have to take shots at anyone available to try and get an argument or that you can't read what is written?

[FootballJunkie]

AS I HAVE AGNOLEDGED IN PAST POSTS. READ MY POST AND YOU'LL SEE I'M COMMENDING JUDSON IN EVERYTHING THAT I SAID. Is it just that you have to take shots at anyone available to try and get an argument or that you can't read what is written?
Just stated a fact. I have no desire to argue with you and yes I can read. The question should be can you spell??

[clemensbuff]

Just stated a fact. I have no desire to argue with you and yes I can read. The question should be can you spell??

I can if I am not rushing to post something, but usually I just use spell check. I guess I'll acknowledge that you are a better speller than me. And no, I didn't look it up in the dictionary or use spell check in Word! Did you win the spelling Bee in school? By the way my daughter has won it the last two years in both second and third grade, but she inherited that trait from Mama!

And another thing, the Buffs will do everything they can to take it away this year again in the first round. If we don't win, I'll guarantee you the Rockets will know they were in a fight when it's over because these seniors remember the worst A-- Whoopin Clemens has received in the past 20 years!

[mad_fan]

Okay, dont let it become a pi$$in' contest (it's not a slc thread)...

For the record Madison v O'Connor...Madison 2 punts totaling 47 yds.

[badger95]

I've seen both San Marcos and Clemens first hand this year. San Marcos has like 8 and 8 returning starters and one of the best defensive lines in the region that not only make plays, but free up their LBs to run and make plays. I can easily see them shutting the buffs down. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, or fur as it may be, but rather just to state what I feel to be a pretty firm opinion based on what I have seen out of both teams in person.

Henry will not play reciever at OU, but rather will play either SS or LB. I've read that several places.

[clemensbuff]

I've seen both San Marcos and Clemens first hand this year. San Marcos has like 8 and 8 returning starters and one of the best defensive lines in the region that not only make plays, but free up their LBs to run and make plays. I can easily see them shutting the buffs down. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, or fur as it may be, but rather just to state what I feel to be a pretty firm opinion based on what I have seen out of both teams in person.

Henry will not play reciever at OU, but rather will play either SS or LB. I've read that several places.

Who did you watch SM play, and what kind of O-line was their D-line going against. I respect your opinion on what you say about SM defense. Which team did you see Clemens play this year and what do you think about our D-line and the speed behind it? I don't doubt what you say but if they have such a good defense how did they give up so many points to Burnet last week? I know Burnet was a great 3a team, but they are not exactly a power house 4a team. I also don't think SM has played any team including Madison that is as talented as Waco or Roosevelt this year, and we shut them both down (3 points total)

I've said all along that James would play defense in college, but I guarantee you he has the tools to play split end also.

You still did not answer my question on which badger you are???

[mad_fan]

I know not of the Badger, but I can tell San Marcos brought some D to the Madison game...I was surprised they only won by 3...

Ground game for the main men (some argue the only men) on Madison O...


Madison--Rushing

v San Marcos.........Tony Green 14-33 Caflisch 9-29

v Taft...................Tony Green 15-135 Caflisch 16-194

v O’Connor............Tony Green 17-204 Caflisch 15-81

[Bucky]

where did you make that up at?:)


I was just sitting at my desk!! Ive been waiting to see if anyone even noticed. Are you the Head trainer or just one or the student trainers?

[mad_fan]

I was just sitting at my desk!! Ive been waiting to see if anyone even noticed. Are you the Head trainer or just one or the student trainers?

I noticed, but I've gotten into this bad habit of dismissing EVERYTHING I read here. :D

[SeguinMatadors]

I don't think anyone takes the 25 crown "easily." I haven't seen any real separation by Clemens, San Marcos and Seguin in their respective competition so far to believe it will be easy for any of those three to win. I do put Clemens as the favorite simply because they won the title undefeated last year and they get both of the other contenders at home this year but way too much can happen between now and the end of the season to call any of them a sure thing, IMO. Since all 3 play good defense I don't see a blowout in any of those games either.

Overall, Seguin should challenge for the 25 5A crown this year. Seguins team this year is vastly improved from last years. The defense is just as fast and good as last years and the offense has made strides.Don't get me wrong, the O is no juggernut,but, they have vastly improved. I think Clemens will take 25 5A this year but look out for Seguin next year.They have a ton of returning talent. Seguin should beat the San Marcos and finish second in 25 5a.

[lonny23]

Lonny it is all propaganda to sell newspapers.
You're right. I just forgot to say that in my post. That's why KT said one day he didn't get into sports journalism.

[lonny23]

Where do you get this from? I have only lived in SA a little over a year and I have yet to come across someone that is "tired" of the Rockets. Everyone knows Judson is good, what more do you want? And last year Judson was ranked #1 for almost the entire year (after Madison beat then #1 Oconnor). Madison was never ranked ahead of the Rockets in the Express-News.

I hope Marshall improves because right now they are overrated.

RR
Madison was ranked #1 in some people's polls in town until Judson beat them. They jumped Madison in front of Judson after they beat O'Connor. I can't guarantee you that the paper had the Mavs #1, but Channel 12 did if the paper didn't. I complained about it last year. See sometimes I give you instant replay! ;)

[lonny23]

Lonny, I have agreed with 90% of what you have posted here, but hating the Spurs because of the Media. What is that all about? What lies have the Press told about the spurs that make you hate them?

I also agree that Judson should be ranked above Clemens especially after the A-- Kickin' they put on us in the first round last year. I do agree that the SA media has always put the SA schools on a pedistal for no good reason other than they may be undefeated and Judson not at that particular time. I always say, look who a loss or two might have came from and not the 5-0 record against a bunch of so-so competition. Your last comment couldn't be more true, Clemens and Marshall are definately not Judson, nobody in the state can claim all they have accomplished what the Rockets have. I can tell you this also, Marshall is way over-rated. Just look who they have played so far and what the scores were in those games!
There is a gag order on criticism from the TV to the radio. The paper guys are the best in town when it comes to the Spurs. Every player is great and you won't hear anything bad. Other teams are all treated with disdain and made fun of. You'll hear respect for very few teams outside of SA.

I attribute the whole thing to an inferiority complex. SA has heard for years that Dallas and Houston are better cities and basketball is the one thing to hold on to to say SA is tops. It requires not criticizing the Spurs at all. At one time, I liked for the Spurs to be successful. When I moved to SA, I started hating them. The worst part is the guys on the radio and the fans who call in. The guys at the game aren't as bad as the radio.

The flipside is I listen to Dallas and Houston sports radio and the personalities and fans both will criticize the local teams.

[lonny23]

I think like most of you that teams look down this year. I try to tell myself that I am comparing what they looked like at the end of last year compared to what they look like at the first of this year. It takes time for everything to gel. I didn't think SV put it together until they played Madison last year which Madison probably played their worst game. I attribute that to the "Judson factor".

My definition of the "Judson factor" is that teams get a harsh dose of reality after having Judson deflate what you thought you were as a team. MacArthur benefited from it last year against SV almost pulling the upset and SV benefited from it against Madison. (Of course this is my opinion)

The 2-6-5 is Judson's district until someone steps up and takes it from them.
There is a definite Judson factor. Madison has never been a tough team and they fall apart when times get tough. Roosevelt lost in Bi-District in 2003 after Judson ruined their perfect season. Mac had Madison in their hand after SV pounded them, too. Losing Arthur during that time didn't help matters.

[lonny23]

I was just sitting at my desk!! Ive been waiting to see if anyone even noticed. Are you the Head trainer or just one or the student trainers?
Since I'm thousands of miles away, I can't verify or find out. It's not a crazy suggestion, so I thought it might be true.

[bubbacoach]

Gentlemen we can and have dogged the media propaganda but at least we get coverage for our kids. Go somewhere like Austin and see what their local paper gives them. At least our kids get recognized by the paper and T.V.

[lonny23]

Gentlemen we can and have dogged the media propaganda but at least we get coverage for our kids. Go somewhere like Austin and see what their local paper gives them. At least our kids get recognized by the paper and T.V.
I guess that's true.

[FootballJunkie]

Gentlemen we can and have dogged the media propaganda but at least we get coverage for our kids. Go somewhere like Austin and see what their local paper gives them. At least our kids get recognized by the paper and T.V.
They cover High School football in Austin in the newspaper and on television so hold your comments to factual statements.

[bubbacoach]

Man I used to live in Austin and it is no where as extensive as S.A. Unless something has changed in the last few years.

[bubbacoach]

I think the bottom line is that S.V. and Judson are the two elite programs in the city and in two weeks when they square off S.V. will take them. Judson still has to prove the program is still there with as many coaches as left from last year. There "improved offense" has not shown anything and there is alot of issues between the new staff and the players. S.V. will win this year not because of athletes but because of the consistency amongst their staff.

[Bucky]

I am afraid that you are right. I hope the Rockets can put it together by next week but Im not seeing it happen. One of the reasons Judson has been so successfull is that they have had great coaches and thoes coaches stayed. Now, most of them are gone and there is something missing. I do hope they can pull it out... There is a totally differet chemistry now. Im not saying that its bad..its just different and "JUDSON" is no longer the same. There were 12 Varsity coaches at Judson last year and only 3 or them are still there..that is including Rackley. Continuity was always one of the strengths of the program..now it is all new!! And about the "new" offense..I think I would go back to the old stuff..and follow the old saying..If it aint broke ..dont fix it!!!!

[mad_fan]

I am afraid that you are right. I hope the Rockets can put it together by next week but Im not seeing it happen. One of the reasons Judson has been so successfull is that they have had great coaches and thoes coaches stayed. Now, most of them are gone and there is something missing. I do hope they can pull it out... There is a totally differet chemistry now. Im not saying that its bad..its just different and "JUDSON" is no longer the same. There were 12 Varsity coaches at Judson last year and only 3 or them are still there..that is including Rackley. Continuity was always one of the strengths of the program..now it is all new!! And about the "new" offense..I think I would go back to the old stuff..and follow the old saying..If it aint broke ..dont fix it!!!!

ya, gee wonder where that offensive coordinator came from?

[badger95]

I saw San Marcos vs. Westlake, whose O-line averages about 250 acrross the board with a couple of D-1 prospects. I saw Clemens vs. Austin High, who is young and inexperienced. Clemens' defense I thought was very good and can definetly carry the team, and will have to. They will play some low-scoring, tough games and if they can get one or two big plays from the offense, they'll be okay. I just don't think from what I saw out of their offense that they can expect that. They will have to keep the offense simple and a good defensive team will shut that down. Even a bad one can do that to them for a half as Austin High did with some good adjustments.

As far as Seguin goes in that district; if they can barely beat New Braunfels, who is pretty awful this year, then they will not be competive for that district title. I seen the Unicorns too, and they looked pretty lost out there on both sides of the ball. Poor Rhodes is trying to carry that team and they're not helping him out much.

[SeguinMatadors]

I saw San Marcos vs. Westlake, whose O-line averages about 250 acrross the board with a couple of D-1 prospects. I saw Clemens vs. Austin High, who is young and inexperienced. Clemens' defense I thought was very good and can definetly carry the team, and will have to. They will play some low-scoring, tough games and if they can get one or two big plays from the offense, they'll be okay. I just don't think from what I saw out of their offense that they can expect that. They will have to keep the offense simple and a good defensive team will shut that down. Even a bad one can do that to them for a half as Austin High did with some good adjustments.

As far as Seguin goes in that district; if they can barely beat New Braunfels, who is pretty awful this year, then they will not be competive for that district title. I seen the Unicorns too, and they looked pretty lost out there on both sides of the ball. Poor Rhodes is trying to carry that team and they're not helping him out much.

As far as Seguin vs. NB goes, Seguin completly dominated that game but made some mistakes that let NB score. They had a deep snap go right over the punters head that NB recoverd on the 5 yard line. Seguin also fumbled at the 12. Seguin had two touchdowns called back. I know those aren't excuses, but Seguin is far better than that score showed. Seguin should have won that game by about 28 or so. NB didnt sustain a drive longer than 30 or so yards all night.

Seguins D is for real and their O has improved vastly.The one thing that concerns me about Seguin is their deep snapper. If you don't believe it, come to Jack Taylor field this friday night. Seguin will compete for the district 25 5a title this year. This is a better team than last years team, who played Clemens down to the wire on the last game of the season for the district 25 5A championship. Seguin should beat SM and it should come down to the last game of the season again.I still give the district to Clemens.

[bubbacoach]

ya, gee wonder where that offensive coordinator came from?
I bet Judson wished he would go back to Madison. Does anyone know where all the Judson coaches went?

[Bucky]

I dont think thats the case. I think Coach Mangold is finding out that its a little bit harder to call plays than to second guess the guy that is calling them. Not that he was or is unloyal...its just more difficult to call than to assist the caller. And SPEED it up would ya!!!!

[clemensbuff]

I saw San Marcos vs. Westlake, whose O-line averages about 250 acrross the board with a couple of D-1 prospects. I saw Clemens vs. Austin High, who is young and inexperienced. Clemens' defense I thought was very good and can definetly carry the team, and will have to. They will play some low-scoring, tough games and if they can get one or two big plays from the offense, they'll be okay. I just don't think from what I saw out of their offense that they can expect that. They will have to keep the offense simple and a good defensive team will shut that down. Even a bad one can do that to them for a half as Austin High did with some good adjustments.

As far as Seguin goes in that district; if they can barely beat New Braunfels, who is pretty awful this year, then they will not be competive for that district title. I seen the Unicorns too, and they looked pretty lost out there on both sides of the ball. Poor Rhodes is trying to carry that team and they're not helping him out much.

I didn't realize that SM had played Westlake this year.

As far as the Seguin / NB game, Seguin dominated that game in every aspect. But not for a few foolish mistakes they would have dominated the scoreboard! I'm glad to see that the Mats have gotten some attitude on the field and don't fold when things aren't going their way. I say that Seguin, SM, and Clemens will be all in the hunt for the district title. If our offense can get some things figured out (O-Line blocking schemes & QB doing his part), then we'll will be very hard to beat! The one thing that we have in our favor is that both of them have to come to our house to play! Thank God for that!

[implacable44]

Since when did Judson have to prove anything to anyone in the San Antonio Area ? they should just rename the district to Judson anyway. Everyone else has to prove that they can beat Judson - not the other way around. Dont get confused here.

[bullrock]

At least one is selling real estate. Most of them transferred to Wagner with Gibbons. In my opinion, that's where "Rocket Ball" went. Don't know what to do next year. Going to be tough, that's for sure. It almost appears this was a pre-meditated move. Think about it, most people feel like the real speed and most of the athletes come from within Wagners boundry. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye??? In any case, we'll have to see what the "Rockmavcorns" morphodite(sp?) scheme has to offer this year. It sounded exciting before we witnessed it's effectiveness. Maybe in a couple of years it will come around if the present staff stays together.

[bubbacoach]

Why is Seguin running it? Haven't they only made the play-offs once in the last 20 years. They had to get moved into a district that only has three teams that can tie their own shoes and line up correctly. Why couldn't they make the play-offs when they were in 26-5A or the Austin district? Win a play-off game before you start running it.

[clemensbuff]

As far as Seguin vs. NB goes, Seguin completly dominated that game but made some mistakes that let NB score. They had a deep snap go right over the punters head that NB recoverd on the 5 yard line. Seguin also fumbled at the 12. Seguin had two touchdowns called back. I know those aren't excuses, but Seguin is far better than that score showed. Seguin should have won that game by about 28 or so. NB didnt sustain a drive longer than 30 or so yards all night.

Seguins D is for real and their O has improved vastly.The one thing that concerns me about Seguin is their deep snapper. If you don't believe it, come to Jack Taylor field this friday night. Seguin will compete for the district 25 5a title this year. This is a better team than last years team, who played Clemens down to the wire on the last game of the season for the district 25 5A championship. Seguin should beat SM and it should come down to the last game of the season again.I still give the district to Clemens.

I agree with everything you are saying except that you will beat the Rattlers. I admire your confidence though. I think that game will come down to who takes care of the football and the kicking game. You aint kiddin' about your defense, there tough! I didn't make the game last year in Seguin because I had more important things to do like try and burn some steaks, drink a few adult beverages, and kill a deer. My younger brother went and I got updated about every other play. He had nothing to say about Seguin except good things, especially the defense and the QB play. Like I said on the other posts I've made, I'm glad that Seguin and SM are taking bus rides to Schertz this year, and not the other way around. That could just be the difference if there is one! See you in Schertz in six weeks (maybe, if I can talk my six year old in going to the game instead of deer hunting)!

[implacable44]

I don't know about most of the talent coming out of Kirby- Kitty Hawk has produced its' share of athletes too. We will see how it ends up. I think they will be fine - i would imagine both schools will go on being competitive.

[mad_fan]

Since when did Judson have to prove anything to anyone in the San Antonio Area ? they should just rename the district to Judson anyway. Everyone else has to prove that they can beat Judson - not the other way around. Dont get confused here.

That used to be Taft's job :rolleyes: does Madison have to do everything around here now. :D

Oh, I long for the Rocket's of 2003....

[lonny23]

I was going to start a thread asking about it, but this is a good place to ask. How many of you think "Rocketball" disappeared because most of the staff, including Gibbens went to Wagner? I figure that's what most of you guys are thinking. Change is not always wrong and I wonder how many of you think different is better or can be better over the long haul.

[buffbacker]

badger95, when did san marcos play westlake? I just looked at their schedule and didnt find westlake..

[rattlerbacker]

Westlake and San Marcos scrimmaged before the season.

[SeguinMatadors]

Why is Seguin running it? Haven't they only made the play-offs once in the last 20 years. They had to get moved into a district that only has three teams that can tie their own shoes and line up correctly. Why couldn't they make the play-offs when they were in 26-5A or the Austin district? Win a play-off game before you start running it.

That is just silly. This is a completely different Seguin team than the one that played in the Austin district. Seguin is a different team with a different attitude, mainly due to the face that they brought in Jim Carson as their coach 3 years ago. He has completely reformed this team. In the past Seguin had terrible coaches but Carson came in 3 years ago, his first year Seguin didn’t make the playoffs but they were competing night in and night out. It took Westlake a game winning drive in the fourth quarter to beat us that year and previously they would run us out of the stadium. Carson has made this team defensively dominate and mentally tough.

If Seguin were in the Austin district this year, with out a doubt, they would be in the playoffs. Now Carson’s first class of freshmen are juniors and they are a special group with loads of talent. I don't know if Seguin has what it takes to win more than 2 or 3 playoff games this year, but look out next year.

[SeguinMatadors]

I agree with everything you are saying except that you will beat the Rattlers. I admire your confidence though. I think that game will come down to who takes care of the football and the kicking game. You aint kiddin' about your defense, there tough! I didn't make the game last year in Seguin because I had more important things to do like try and burn some steaks, drink a few adult beverages, and kill a deer. My younger brother went and I got updated about every other play. He had nothing to say about Seguin except good things, especially the defense and the QB play. Like I said on the other posts I've made, I'm glad that Seguin and SM are taking bus rides to Schertz this year, and not the other way around. That could just be the difference if there is one! See you in Schertz in six weeks (maybe, if I can talk my six year old in going to the game instead of deer hunting)!

The defense is for real. If you can make it to the game this year or just a Seguin game in general, look out for senior safety Thomas Wright (#22) and Junior Corner Desmond Jackson (#6) in the secondary. Of the Linebackers, look out for junior MLB Marcus Richardson (#1). On the defensive line look out for junior defensive end Logan Johnson (#9) and defensive tackle Michael Castillo. All of the above have D-1 potential with the exception of Castillo because he is undersized at about 6'1 255. In fact, Desmond Jackson is a good friend of mine and showed me all of the letters he has gotten and I wasn't surprised to see that has already gotten letters from all of the major programs in the nation... Texas, OU, etc...

I plan on going to a Clemens game soon, probably during Seguins bye week or Seguins other bye week when they play Jefferson. LOL :) Sorry if I offended any Jefferson fans out there. Other than Henry, are there any other standouts I should look at?

[DiamondJ2]

It is different in Rocketland. New coaches bring new ideas. Defensively, it is 90% the same as far as defensive plays are concerned. Offensively, well, yes it is a different story. Some of the plays are new, especially the blocking schemes which are causing some concerns. Most of us despise change in our lives, but it happens and we are goiing to have to make the best of it.

Rocketball has moved to Wagner. I firmly believe that both Judson and Wagner will be two of the top five schools in SA within 2-4 years. You got to believe in Rocket Pride.

[sendero]

Where does everyone thing Wagner will be districted next year? Do they bump SV out of 26-5 putting SV in 25-5 to take Clemens spot along with Boerne since Stevens will be in 27-5? Could be interesting.

[mad_fan]

You cant move Rocketball out of Judson. It'll be a different ball, but that doesn't mean it won't be successful. Players change constantly, districts change frequently, and coaching staffs change occasionally. Judson can have off years, but I think it will still be a force to be reckoned with.

What do Madison and SV have in common?????

[mad_fan]

Where does everyone thing Wagner will be districted next year? Do they bump SV out of 26-5 putting SV in 25-5 to take Clemens spot along with Boerne since Stevens will be in 27-5? Could be interesting.

I wouldn't bet on teams dropping out of the 265 from the east (northeast), I'd look west and an overhaul that direction.

[bubbacoach]

I wouldn't on teams dropping out of the 265 from the east (northeast), I'd look west and an overhaul that direction.

In S.A. there are three 5A UIL Districts 25, 26, 27. They are made up of 23 teams. You add into the mix Wagner and Stevens (Steele will probably not be 5A) then you have 25 teams. You take away the teams that will probably go to 4A Clemens and Jefferson that leaves us with 23 teams.
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

27 5A
1. Marshall
2. O'Connor
3. Warren
4. Taft
5. Jay
6. Clark
7. Holmes
8. Stevens

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?

[sendero]

I think Boerne goes 5A probably putting them in with NEISD & SV and leaving Del Rio in NSISD or going to Laredo? SM may get back in with Austin if Hays schools go to 4A?

[Gridiron Gopher]

When Mac scrimmaged Seguin earlier this year, the defense was good then. Very quick and they hit hard. Probably the only thing that got them in trouble was that they were so aggressive they would lose containment.
The offense was not where it needs to be but that is usually the case during the scrimmages. If the offense is getting better, then they should be around for a playoff spot with the defense they have.

[Reaganrattler07]

Think about it, the drive from Del Rio to San Antonio is already bad as it is...you want to further that distance by making them to go Corpus?

[mad_fan]

Think about it, the drive from Del Rio to San Antonio is already bad as it is...you want to further that distance by making them to go Corpus?

Skins...You are THE, I mean THE smartest kid at Reagan, aren't you?

[Reaganrattler07]

Skins...You are THE, I mean THE smartest kid at Reagan, aren't you?

Nah, there are others who have decided to follow the righteous WARPATH.

[clemensbuff]

The defense is for real. If you can make it to the game this year or just a Seguin game in general, look out for senior safety Thomas Wright (#22) and Junior Corner Desmond Jackson (#6) in the secondary. Of the Linebackers, look out for junior MLB Marcus Richardson (#1). On the defensive line look out for junior defensive end Logan Johnson (#9) and defensive tackle Michael Castillo. All of the above have D-1 potential with the exception of Castillo because he is undersized at about 6'1 255. In fact, Desmond Jackson is a good friend of mine and showed me all of the letters he has gotten and I wasn't surprised to see that has already gotten letters from all of the major programs in the nation... Texas, OU, etc...

I plan on going to a Clemens game soon, probably during Seguins bye week or Seguins other bye week when they play Jefferson. LOL :) Sorry if I offended any Jefferson fans out there. Other than Henry, are there any other standouts I should look at?

Bo Hurley 5-5 295 has moved to the O-line from the D-line this year and is still learning the job. He will play D-1 for sure. The tight end is getting calls and letters from several D-1 schools even though he is somewhat undersized at 6-0 215 (Plays much larger). He was All-District U last year. We have a stable of capable workhorse running backs that will hurt people if they key Henry to hard. The offense still has not played a good complete game yet. If they get it together and stop making stupid penalties and turnovers that are really unforced they will be pretty good.

The D-line is outstanding this year. A good friend who coaches at Judson told me that our D-Line is one of the best in the state this year. One D-End is 6-0 225 (strong and very quick). The other is a junior 6-4 255 (Will definately go D-1 next year). The D-tackles are bookends at 6-2 260 or so. Linebackers are small, very quick, and tackle real well. D-backfield is as good as any in the region. One is returning All-District U from last year and can play D-1 football or basketball (super point guard). Overall the defense is head and shoulders above last year and at least as good as the 2003 semi-final team.

From everything I'm hearing on the Mats this year, it should be a great game! I'm sure glad it will be in Schertz and not Seguin!

[clemensbuff]

In S.A. there are three 5A UIL Districts 25, 26, 27. They are made up of 23 teams. You add into the mix Wagner and Stevens (Steele will probably not be 5A) then you have 25 teams. You take away the teams that will probably go to 4A Clemens and Jefferson that leaves us with 23 teams.
25 5A
1. Seguin
2. Southwest
3. East Central
4. Highlands
5. San Marcos
6. Judson
7. Wagner

26 5A
1. Churchill
2. Madison
3. MacArthur
4. Reagan
5. Roosevelt
6. Lee
7. Smithson Valley

27 5A
1. Marshall
2. O'Connor
3. Warren
4. Taft
5. Jay
6. Clark
7. Holmes
8. Stevens

and move Del Rio to the 6 team Corpus District (where they have a chance)

That would be a good way to break them up. What do you think?

You should work for the UIL and do it for them! Trust me, they will find a way to screw it all up next year! I think your layout is right on the $. However, don't you think Del Rio should move in with the Laredo teams and save them 150 miles of travel?

[bubbacoach]

Laredo already has 8 teams and that would make them a 9 team district. The only school that is not in Laredo that is in the district is Eagle Pass and it is just as far for them.

[jrp83]

Judson and Wagner would destroy that district. The UIL wouldn't do that to those teams. Sorry NE schools, your stuck with Judson and now Wagner too. Although I wouldn't mind seeing a district look like this,

Judson
Wagner
Smithson Valley
San Marcos
Seguin
Clemens(If they stay 5A)
East Central
New Braunfels(If they move back to 5A)

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this, the NEISD is planning on building another high school. That would make a district of strictly NE schools. Judson, Wagner, SV would have to go somewhere else.

[svrangerfan]

What I am hearing from an SV parent is Canyon Lake will be a 2a or 3a school but will take 400 students or so from SV and certainly be enough to knock them down to 4a. The area Canyon Lake is in supposedly does not have the growth potential SV does. SV may drop to 4a and be back in 5a in 4 to 6 years. Anybody for 4atexasfootball.com???

[badger95]

badger95, when did san marcos play westlake? I just looked at their schedule and didnt find westlake..

Scrimmage at Bobcat stadium.

[badger95]

They won't do 7 team districts as you offered. Look for Del Rio to be shipped out to Odessa if the Abilene's drop to 4A. and look for San Marcos, New Braunfels, and Seguin to be shipped back to Austin if Crockett and Anderson drop.

[mad_fan]

What I am hearing from an SV parent is Canyon Lake will be a 2a or 3a school but will take 400 students or so from SV and certainly be enough to knock them down to 4a. The area Canyon Lake is in supposedly does not have the growth potential SV does. SV may drop to 4a and be back in 5a in 4 to 6 years. Anybody for 4atexasfootball.com???

I hope not. That would make the arguement I'm having on another thread TOTALLY pointless.

[DiamondJ2]

UIL has wanted to make an outer loop district if possible, but Jefferson & Highlands are still above 5A limits. South San is clase to becomeing 5A again. If UIL goes with project enrollment at SV, then SV could drop to 4A, but UIL is wishy-washy on that situation. They prefer to go with October enrollment, but then with UIL,well, you never know.

Del Rio will probably stay with NISD one more go around making a 9 team district. If SV remains 5A & NB moves up to 5A look for them to join NEISD schools with Judson, Wagner, EC. SW, Highlands, Jefferson, Seguin & SM forming a district or. . . .Judson & Wagner with NEISD, while SV & NB go with the other schools. Or UIL may move the Cowboys in to give them a chance to win district----at least somewhere!!!!!!!!!!

[lonny23]

All the talk we've been doing may be pointless. If they're going to take October enrollment figures, we need to know how many kids came in from Louisiana. What if the hurricane hits Texas and those guys start moving? We may get a 5A school that none of us are expecting.

[bubbacoach]

It will be interesting how UIL screws it up.

[FootballJunkie]

Bo Hurley 5-5 295 has moved to the O-line from the D-line this year and is still learning the job. He will play D-1 for sure. The tight end is getting calls and letters from several D-1 schools even though he is somewhat undersized at 6-0 215 (Plays much larger). He was All-District U last year. We have a stable of capable workhorse running backs that will hurt people if they key Henry to hard. The offense still has not played a good complete game yet. If they get it together and stop making stupid penalties and turnovers that are really unforced they will be pretty good.

The D-line is outstanding this year. A good friend who coaches at Judson told me that our D-Line is one of the best in the state this year. One D-End is 6-0 225 (strong and very quick). The other is a junior 6-4 255 (Will definately go D-1 next year). The D-tackles are bookends at 6-2 260 or so. Linebackers are small, very quick, and tackle real well. D-backfield is as good as any in the region. One is returning All-District U from last year and can play D-1 football or basketball (super point guard). Overall the defense is head and shoulders above last year and at least as good as the 2003 semi-final team.

From everything I'm hearing on the Mats this year, it should be a great game! I'm sure glad it will be in Schertz and not Seguin!

Was that a typo when you listed Bo Hurley as 5'5'' and 295 lbs??

[bullrock]

That's what I was wonderin'? 5'5"; 295 lbs. Must look like a basketball. I guess technique won't work on him!

[amac1116]

I need to know more about this 6'3" QB from La. It would be a waste to put a great QB into our past system. I still haven't seen the "new and improved" offense this year. I know they're working on a new offense, I just haven't been too impressed yet. The only excitement I get is when they hand the ball off to the FB. That's when we make most of our yards. In the past everyone knew who was going to get the ball. They usually couldn't stop him. With McDaniel, if there is a defender within 5 yards of him he goes down. He is a good back, just not great. Maybe a little option would be good with an athletic QB and McD could use his speed around the corner.

I agree, McDaniel is not the best, but I think he could be better if he was more patient. I mean he is not the biggest guy, but he has 4.3 forty speed. The guy is a blazer.....I saw him run in the NIKE camp and during track season. In distrct games, I think he has alot of room for improvement.

[lonny23]

That's what I was wonderin'? 5'5"; 295 lbs. Must look like a basketball. I guess technique won't work on him!
Hey, Texas Football says Lyle Leong from Abilene is 10'2", 165 and runs a 4.2! :D To their credit, the numbers don't sound as good in the other place they mentioned him.

[bubbacoach]

Alfred McDaniel is not the best running back Judson has ever had, but he does have the biggest heart of any running back Judson has ever had. The kid is as good as gold as far as character. There probably are better running backs at Judson right now, just none with the character and heart that Alfred has. He is a good compliment to their fullback Mendoza. The thing that everyone has to remember this is Alfreds first year on varsity and he is grwoing each game. He will be just fine. At least that is the word I get.

[bubbacoach]

How long do you think it will take the Rocket's to hit their stride? They have the talent to have crushed the first three opponents, but have just limped through. How long will it take the new staff to get it right?

[Bucky]

That is the "MILLION DOLLAR" question. I hope to see the million dolar answer next friday against SV. If I know Coach Rackley..I am sure the he is working his tail off to get them ready for Lee but he has SV in his sights. If the Judson WR will start catching more balls than they are dropping..I think things will start to click. Im not sure its all coaching. I know that things are different..but different doesnt have to be bad..Not beating SV will be bad!! Get it together Rockets..Play like a team and act like the champions that you have been coached to be!!

[bubbacoach]

Bucky is Coach Rackley really the guy the he appears to be on T.V. or is it just a character he becomes? :) Have you ever met him?

[SeguinMatadors]

Bo Hurley 5-5 295 has moved to the O-line from the D-line this year and is still learning the job. He will play D-1 for sure. The tight end is getting calls and letters from several D-1 schools even though he is somewhat undersized at 6-0 215 (Plays much larger). He was All-District U last year. We have a stable of capable workhorse running backs that will hurt people if they key Henry to hard. The offense still has not played a good complete game yet. If they get it together and stop making stupid penalties and turnovers that are really unforced they will be pretty good.

The D-line is outstanding this year. A good friend who coaches at Judson told me that our D-Line is one of the best in the state this year. One D-End is 6-0 225 (strong and very quick). The other is a junior 6-4 255 (Will definately go D-1 next year). The D-tackles are bookends at 6-2 260 or so. Linebackers are small, very quick, and tackle real well. D-backfield is as good as any in the region. One is returning All-District U from last year and can play D-1 football or basketball (super point guard). Overall the defense is head and shoulders above last year and at least as good as the 2003 semi-final team.

From everything I'm hearing on the Mats this year, it should be a great game! I'm sure glad it will be in Schertz and not Seguin!

Thanks for the info Buff. I think I will be headed out to the Clemens-Southwest game because that will be Seguins bye week. I might even make it out to the Clemens-Rattlers game to see you guys hand them their SECOND district loss. :) Anyways, thanks again for the info. See you in Schertz(damn I wish it was in Seguin) for the district title.

[bubbacoach]

Matador, Does that kid who had the monster dunk against Judson last year in the play-offs play football? I saw it on the news last year and that dunk was nasty.

[SeguinMatadors]

When Mac scrimmaged Seguin earlier this year, the defense was good then. Very quick and they hit hard. Probably the only thing that got them in trouble was that they were so aggressive they would lose containment.
The offense was not where it needs to be but that is usually the case during the scrimmages. If the offense is getting better, then they should be around for a playoff spot with the defense they have.

Yeah, I was there. It was a pretty evenly matched scrimmage. The defense was being over aggressive but I think that was just a case of them finally getting on the feild against another school and wanting to hit someone. When Seguin plays SM they really just stay at home because ,as we all know, you never know where the ball is and if you attack the guy you think has the ball.... well, some other guy will be walking into the endzone.

[SeguinMatadors]

Matador, Does that kid who had the monster dunk against Judson last year in the play-offs play football? I saw it on the news last year and that dunk was nasty.

Yes, I am in college now, but he is a good friend of mine as I just graduated last year. Junior Small foward Micheal Martin. We have tape of the game and he as he dunked on him his head was above the rim. No lie. Were you there? That was a hell of a game and a hell of a dunk.

[bubbacoach]

No was not there , but saw it on the news. Does he play FB?

[SeguinMatadors]

No was not there , but saw it on the news. Does he play FB?

No, unfortunatly not. He did his freshman year and was a hell of a reciever. He is 6'6 about 2OO pounds with a 39 inch vertical,is really agile, and fast. I think he may be the fasted guy on are relay team. Our basketball coach talked him out of playing football after his freshman year. He would be able to Moss people. He is already getting serious letters from a lot of major basketball programs but I wish he would have played football because he was surely a d-1 receiver. He still has his senior year next year and a lot of people decied to play their senior year.. so we will see.

[FootballJunkie]

How long do you think it will take the Rocket's to hit their stride? They have the talent to have crushed the first three opponents, but have just limped through. How long will it take the new staff to get it right?
You are SADLY mistaken if you think Judson should have crushed their last two opponents. The other two teams are pretty good and actually they should have another loss. Pville should have beat Judson!! I guess you have not gotten out of SA in awhile. Mistakes by the other teams is what kept it close not anything great that Judson did.

[clemensbuff]

Was that a typo when you listed Bo Hurley as 5'5'' and 295 lbs??

Sorry, 6-5 295. That is what he is listed at but I would guess he's at least 310. When a 6-3 270 guy stands next to him, Bo makes him look small!

[clemensbuff]

Bucky is Coach Rackley really the guy the he appears to be on T.V. or is it just a character he becomes? :) Have you ever met him?

Jim Rackley is one great person. He is every bit the personality you see on TV and more. He's a straight shooting, hard working, very caring person who loves what he does. Judson is very lucky to have him.

[Bucky]

Bucky is Coach Rackley really the guy the he appears to be on T.V. or is it just a character he becomes? :) Have you ever met him?


He is what you see on TV. He is a very enthusiastic, emotional, passionate man. He loves what he does and hes very good at it!!

[bubbacoach]

Our basketball coach talked him out of playing football after his freshman year. QUOTE]
Matador
I have known Coach Weaver for about 10 years. I cannot see him encouraging a kid to go straight basketball.. I could be wrong.

[bubbacoach]

Which will be the better game Judson vs. Smithson Valley or Clemens vs. Seguin?

[SeguinMatadors]

Our basketball coach talked him out of playing football after his freshman year. QUOTE]
Matador
I have known Coach Weaver for about 10 years. I cannot see him encouraging a kid to go straight basketball.. I could be wrong.

Well, I know Mike personally and that is pretty much the story he gave me. I like coach Weaver a lot, he is a good guy and was a good coach to me. I do not think he did it directly, more in the sense of your future is in basketball and if you dedicate yourself to it fully you can become and elite player and go far with it. If you get what I am saying..

[SeguinMatadors]

Which will be the better game Judson vs. Smithson Valley or Clemens vs. Seguin?

I will say Seguin vs. Clemens with lots of bias. haha :) ... but seriously, any of you guys in the San Antonio area who like the underdog... come out and support Seguin against Clemens.... especially if it is the last game of the season for the district championship, which is very likely. Seguin travels very well to games and may even sell it out but they could use as much support as they can get. Lets make it like a homegame for SHS!!!

[clemensbuff]

What I am hearing from an SV parent is Canyon Lake will be a 2a or 3a school but will take 400 students or so from SV and certainly be enough to knock them down to 4a. The area Canyon Lake is in supposedly does not have the growth potential SV does. SV may drop to 4a and be back in 5a in 4 to 6 years. Anybody for 4atexasfootball.com???

I am currently involved with the construction on Canyon Lake HS. I have spoken to several CISD employees about this exact issue. They seem to think that SV will remain 5a because of the extensive growth within SV's boundry. However, I do not believe that the deviding boundries have been set in stone yet. I think that the boundries for Canyon, SV, and Canyon Lake HS will be manipulated from year to year until maximum occupancy is attained at all three schools. There is already talk that this district will require a 4th HS within 10 years. So for now I would say that SV dropping to 4a is about 50-50.

[zippy]

They are staying 5A, and the football team will stay about like it has been in the past. According to the proposed line change, the team would lose very few players. Now all of this can change of course, but as of right now, this is the way it is.

I am currently involved with the construction on Canyon Lake HS. I have spoken to several CISD employees about this exact issue. They seem to think that SV will remain 5a because of the extensive growth within SV's boundry. However, I do not believe that the deviding boundries have been set in stone yet. I think that the boundries for Canyon, SV, and Canyon Lake HS will be manipulated from year to year until maximum occupancy is attained at all three schools. There is already talk that this district will require a 4th HS within 10 years. So for now I would say that SV dropping to 4a is about 50-50.

[bubbacoach]

When is the new school opening over at Smithson Valley?

[sendero]

Original plan was to open fall '06.

[Bucky]

I remember when they were looking at drawing the district lines more in the SV area. I also remember when Coach Hill "almost" took a job somewhere in North Texas. I then remember the district lines being redrawn and Coach Hill not accepting that job. I know that that is not the reason he looked into the job or didnt take it..what Im getting at is that he is such a good coach that comal isd did not want to take the chance of him leaving.

[bubbacoach]

That goes back to my point that Larry Hill is the best Head Coach in 26-5A right now.

[clemensbuff]

Original plan was to open fall '06.

That was the original plan alright. But, there have been many issues already with more to come! Plan on January 2007, only if the issues from here on out are taken care of in timely manners. Look on the bright side, when it is finally finished, it'll be a great new school to be proud of!!

[zippy]

At first the school was to already be opened, as for Hill, he is not leaving until his son is finished no matter what happens. At least I dont think he will. He want Bryan to finish where he started.

That was the original plan alright. But, there have been many issues already with more to come! Plan on January 2007, only if the issues from here on out are taken care of in timely manners. Look on the bright side, when it is finally finished, it'll be a great new school to be proud of!!

[bubbacoach]

How much do ya'll think the time changes will affect the games this weekend? Like if you were on a Saturday game practice schedule for the week and the game got moved to Thursday or Friday>

[RedRage00]

Well Gopher is eating crow tonight

Reagan-22
Mac- 20

RR

[Reaganrattler07]

Well Gopher is eating crow tonight

Reagan-22
Mac- 20

RR

And that crow will be served by Chef Redskins88! :D

[mad_fan]

How much do ya'll think the time changes will affect the games this weekend? Like if you were on a Saturday game practice schedule for the week and the game got moved to Thursday or Friday>

not sure, was mac already scheduled to lose tonight, or was that a hurricane change?

[Reaganrattler07]

not sure, was mac already scheduled to lose tonight, or was that a hurricane change?

Nope, it was scheduled...

[DiamondJ2]

rumor has it that 5 Roosevelt starters were expelled from school. Anybody know anything about why or who or if it is even true?

[bullrock]

Get the facts before you post diamond. If the admin's were here they'd tear you up. Just a word of caution.

[Reaganrattler07]

Get the facts before you post diamond. If the admin's were here they'd tear you up. Just a word of caution.

I think there may be some validity, I heard this elsewhere as well.....unless of course you have firsthand knowledge of the situation....do you know what happened?

[Mavs D End]

who mike jones, who mike jones jones

[Reaganrattler07]

who mike jones, who mike jones jones

What are you talking about?

[Mavs D End]

mike jones the one and only. got a lot of haterz and alot of homies some friends, some phonies

[Reaganrattler07]

mike jones the one and only. got a lot of haterz and alot of homies some friends, some phonies

Who is he?

[Mavs D End]

back then they didnt want him, now hes hot they all on him
back then they didnt want him, now hes hot they all on him
now 281-330-8004 hit mike jones up on the low cuz mike jones about to blow

[Reaganrattler07]

back then they didnt want him, now hes hot they all on him
back then they didnt want him, now hes hot they all on him
now 281-330-8004 hit mike jones up on the low cuz mike jones about to blow

...that didnt answer the question, who is he? Who does he play for?

[Mavs D End]

Who? mike jones
shyea H town holla at cha boy
play for swisha house all stars

also chamillionaire color changin click

[Reaganrattler07]

Who? mike jones
shyea H town holla at cha boy
play for swisha house all stars

also chamillionaire color changin click

I'm guessing that's Roosevelt?

Hey, didn't Texas Headliner listen to swishahouse or somethin'....where is Texas Headliner anyways?

[Mavs D End]

lol im talking about the rapper mike jones
swisha house is a record label, and a place that chops n screws rap up

but yea....thats off topic lol

[Reaganrattler07]

lol im talking about the rapper mike jones
swisha house is a record label, and a place that chops n screws rap up

but yea....thats off topic lol

Oh ok, haha, isn't rap already screwed up?

But for the people who have been here a while, didn't TX Headliner say somethin' about the swishahouse or something....I haven't seen him for a while.

[lonny23]

Headliner always talked about going to the Swishahouse. I think that's where Clemens went last year after Judson demolished them! :p

[bubbacoach]

Rap is crap and has nothing to do with football. Can we please get back on topic. Mav D End your showing your age.

[Reaganrattler07]

Headliner always talked about going to the Swishahouse. I think that's where Clemens went last year after Judson demolished them! :p

Ah, I kinda miss Headliner, he hasn't been on lately. He's the one that told me about the site.....so y'all have him to thank for me being here :D

[lonny23]

Ah, I kinda miss Headliner, he hasn't been on lately. He's the one that told me about the site.....so y'all have him to thank for me being here :D
At least we know who to blame! :p

[bullrock]

Bubba, are your panties too tight or somethin'. You seem to be wound up all the time. There are other subjects that are discussed on here. Heck, go over to the thread where centex and wide are fixin to find out they're family. Tune in next thread............ ;)

[bubbacoach]

Bubba, are your panties too tight or somethin'. You seem to be wound up all the time. There are other subjects that are discussed on here. Heck, go over to the thread where centex and wide are fixin to find out they're family. Tune in next thread............ ;)
The only panties I wear or the trophies I take from your house when I am leaving.

[bullrock]

The last word of your post sounds real good. All my trophies are in the attic. I'll be sure to get them down for you on your way out.

[Mavs D End]

calm down bubba damn, but bubbacoach can make the best comebacks
i was just playin damn..its not like the thread was goin newhere anyway

[Reaganrattler07]

The only panties I wear or the trophies I take from your house when I am leaving.

Haha, that's actually a good comeback....maybe not appropriate for the site but who am i to decide.

[bubbacoach]

Just screwing with you Full of Bullrock. I guess that just proves my point that I made when i first started this thread. (Churchill beating SV). There are not many if any good challengers for the title this year in San Antonio. I had not seen S.V. play this year, but I was still sure that they could beat a bunch of panty waists like the chargers. Minus the Fanuzzi kid they have nothing, but still had enough to beat the valley. Valley I still think you got one of the best coaches in the state at your helm, but come on guys. Well one thing is clear this morning the Rockets are making room in their trophy shelf and scouting for the play-offs.

[lonny23]

Just screwing with you Full od Bullrock. I guess that just proves my point that I made when i first started this thread. (Churchill beating SV). There are not many if any good challengers for the title this year in San Antonio. I had not seen S.V. play this year, but I was still sure that they could beat a bunch of panty waists like the chargers. Minus the Fanuzzi kid they have nothing, but still had enough to beat the valley. Valley I still think you got one of the best coaches in the state at your helm, but come on guys. Well one thing is clear this morning the Rockets are making room in their trophy shelf and scouting for the play-offs.
I think Judson is always scouting. The players like to go to other team's games and the Rockets schedule teams from other locations to prepare for the playoffs.

[Reaganrattler07]

I think Judson is always scouting. The players like to go to other team's games and the Rockets schedule teams from other locations to prepare for the playoffs.

Yeah, I've noticed some Judson players at games...they all wear the red Judson jerseys.

[lonny23]

Yeah, I've noticed some Judson players at games...they all wear the red Judson jerseys.
I'd do the same thing. There's nothing wrong with letting other teams know...

WE'RE JUDSON! :D

[Reaganrattler07]

I'd do the same thing. There's nothing wrong with letting other teams know...

WE'RE JUDSON! :D

Haha, yeah...just like in basketball I wear my Reagan stuff everywhere ;)

[lonny23]

Haha, yeah...just like in basketball I wear my Reagan stuff everywhere ;)
That Reagan-Judson basketball game to end last year was the worst display of hoops I've ever seen. The 3rd quarter scoring was Reagan 3 Judson 2!

[Reaganrattler07]

That Reagan-Judson basketball game to end last year was the worst display of hoops I've ever seen. The 3rd quarter scoring was Reagan 3 Judson 2!

Yeah, the final score was like 33-30....most teams averaged like 60, and we averaged 30....every team we played we kept in the 30-40 range. But the end to the Judson game was awesome....for us. :D

[lonny23]

Yeah, the final score was like 33-30....most teams averaged like 60, and we averaged 30....every team we played we kept in the 30-40 range. But the end to the Judson game was awesome....for us. :D
I couldn't believe the 2 best teams in district combined to score 63 points. I told my friend that the Dallas Mavericks would score more in the first half against Golden State that night than both teams got in a whole game that included overtime.

[Reaganrattler07]

I couldn't believe the 2 best teams in district combined to score 63 points. I told my friend that the Dallas Mavericks would score more in the first half against Golden State that night than both teams got in a whole game that included overtime.

Yeah, like Mac...those two "stars" who averaged 30 some points each....couldnt even combine for 30 when they played us. Reagan's thing is just defense....but back to topic or where we left off before this part...i sometimes go to a mac game and where all this reagan stuff (reagan practically owns mac) and all the mac people look at me like this :(

[lonny23]

Yeah, like Mac...those two "stars" who averaged 30 some points each....couldnt even combine for 30 when they played us. Reagan's thing is just defense....but back to topic or where we left off before this part...i sometimes go to a mac game and where all this reagan stuff (reagan practically owns mac) and all the mac people look at me like this :(
Man, do you have a post multiplier someplace? It seems like you're credited with more posts than I can read.

[Reaganrattler07]

Man, do you have a post multiplier someplace? It seems like you're credited with more posts than I can read.

You got more posts than i do....

[bubbacoach]

Is there noone on here from 27-5A. I don't ever hear mention are backing for the Northside schools. Are they just realist and know they have nothing to talk about?

[DiamondJ2]

27 5A had some good football. O'Conner was good last year. Problem is new schools opening up and diluting talent. Just when things get back to normal, here comes a new school again. I assume that is the best reason or excuse.

[bubbacoach]

Well if you know anyone from 27-5A get them on here I would like to hear their thoughts.

[Reaganrattler07]

27-5A is kinda weak at the moment. Two of the better schools last year are in the dumps right now....Taft and Clark. O'Connor i think graduated a lot. Warren's main strength is defense. Jay has a pretty good running game. That's about all I have....

[clemensbuff]

27 5A had some good football. O'Conner was good last year. Problem is new schools opening up and diluting talent. Just when things get back to normal, here comes a new school again. I assume that is the best reason or excuse.

I think you are exactly right. However, year to year, team to team, the Northside teams are no match for the Northeast!

[Reaganrattler07]

I think you are exactly right. However, year to year, team to team, the Northside teams are no match for the Northeast!


26-5A (neisd, judson, and sv) are probably always going to be better than their brother district 275a. They may be a little bit more competetive because most of the teams are on par with each other, but 26-5A has better quality teams.

[lonny23]

You got more posts than i do....
Yeah, but you have more posts per day since we started the new board. I know you have more than 300 in the last 4-5 days. I've done that before, but you're consistent about posting a lot every day. I guess I'd be way ahead of you except for some of my circumstances since April, but you're posting like 27 messages daily!

[Reaganrattler07]

Yeah, but you have more posts per day since we started the new board. I know you have more than 300 in the last 4-5 days. I've done that before, but you're consistent about posting a lot every day. I guess I'd be way ahead of you except for some of my circumstances since April, but you're posting like 27 messages daily!

Yeah, I jumped from 20 to 27....but in the past three days I haven't been busy. Like on Friday, I had so much free time, and then on the weekends i of course post more. But I'll essentially disappear during the day this week though.

[lonny23]

Yeah, I jumped from 20 to 27....but in the past three days I haven't been busy. Like on Friday, I had so much free time, and then on the weekends i of course post more. But I'll essentially disappear during the day this week though.
Dude, I haven't seen you disappear yet. You're on the Internet almost every time I post something. I don't blame you because I'm here a lot, too. Sometimes, I check how many posts I have in a day and I get shocked because it's more than I realized.

[mad_fan]

I bet Judson wished he would go back to Madison. Does anyone know where all the Judson coaches went?


:confused:

[lonny23]

:confused:
I'm not going to jump on ol' boy yet. It's not like his teams at Madison never scored. I thought he would be a good addition to the Rockets because Madison knew how to score. He should be good for a few trick plays like fake field goals and stuff! :p

[mad_fan]

I'm not going to jump on ol' boy yet. It's not like his teams at Madison never scored. I thought he would be a good addition to the Rockets because Madison knew how to score. He should be good for a few trick plays like fake field goals and stuff! :p

and bubba will probably work for him one day... :D

[bubbacoach]

Man Judson has averaged better than 30 points a game over the last few years. How can you say Madison knows how to score. Judson took a big hit when their former offensive coordinator left

[J-ROCKSTUD79]

I can if I am not rushing to post something, but usually I just use spell check. I guess I'll acknowledge that you are a better speller than me. And no, I didn't look it up in the dictionary or use spell check in Word! Did you win the spelling Bee in school? By the way my daughter has won it the last two years in both second and third grade, but she inherited that trait from Mama!

And another thing, the Buffs will do everything they can to take it away this year again in the first round. If we don't win, I'll guarantee you the Rockets will know they were in a fight when it's over because these seniors remember the worst A-- Whoopin Clemens has received in the past 20 years!

Last year not many people would beleive me if i said that clemans was a very good team and where tuff to beat.the score did not really reflect that but i promise i knew i was in for a battle with former clemans d-end ryan gonzales and he was tuff to block.

[J-ROCKSTUD79]

I think Judson is always scouting. The players like to go to other team's games and the Rockets schedule teams from other locations to prepare for the playoffs.

bubba coach we are not making room for the district title just yet.SV is still a good team even though they lost to churchill.that gives them even more motivation to try and get a big win against us.we are gonna have to come out in this week of practice and really get ready to play friday.

[bubbacoach]

Don't be humble Rocketstud79. You know ya'll are about to start scoring some points and get on a roll. (If you get out of the shotgun) You're defense is as talented as it has ever beem. If they start playing to their potential then it will be mighty tough to score on them.

[Bucky]

I'm not going to jump on ol' boy yet. It's not like his teams at Madison never scored. I thought he would be a good addition to the Rockets because Madison knew how to score. He should be good for a few trick plays like fake field goals and stuff! :p


Their fake field goals only work when they are up by 30+ points in the 4th qtr!! So far I have not been impressed with judsons offense. They will need to play a lot better..(RUN THE DARN BALL) to beat SV. Their Defende is the best in the city..no offense clemens..I havent seen you play..so yours might be better but i doubt it!!

[jrp83]

What concerns me about Judson is that they have really been working on their passing game and it still stinks. They are very capable of winning district but they really need to get this new offense of theirs going. They are pretty solid on defense but I do worry about their secondary. Better play from that group would have given them a victory at Cove.

[bubbacoach]

To have a passing game that works you must have the QB's that can throw it. Bermudez good athlete, good leader should be the full time QB, but honestly does not have a great arm from what I have seen. He always seem to get the offense to move. Bouldin good athlete, poor leader, does not get the same effort from the team when he is at the helm. Same thing as Bermudez, has not shown much of an arm.

[sendero]

I think Judson could get through most of Region IV provided they can get past Clemens without a passing game. I don't think they would be able to get past the Region III representative if they can't pass. The likes of Spring Westfield would put a lot of personnel in the box and force Judson to pass.

[clemensbuff]

What concerns me about Judson is that they have really been working on their passing game and it still stinks. They are very capable of winning district but they really need to get this new offense of theirs going. They are pretty solid on defense but I do worry about their secondary. Better play from that group would have given them a victory at Cove.

Don't worry too much! When Judson needs to pass to make it happen, they will! Just think back 3 years ago what they did on their last offensive play of the year! Results - Judson Rockets 2002 DIV 1 state champs!!!!

[bubbacoach]

Quinney in 2002 probably was not a better athlete than what they have now, but he was a better QB. It is a different story than 2002. :)

[bubbacoach]

I was out watching the Judson practice today and noticed that neither QB is getting the majority of the reps. They are pretty much getting equal time. How can you develop one into the true team leader without making a decision?

[Bucky]

I was out watching the Judson practice today and noticed that neither QB is getting the majority of the reps. They are pretty much getting equal time. How can you develop one into the true team leader without making a decision?


Judson rotated QB's in 2002 and it worked out pretty good that year!! Rotating QB's would be ok if they had equal talent. However I dont think Bermudez and Boldin are equal. Bermudez seems to get it done better than Bouldin.

[bubbacoach]

That's my point someone needs to recognize that and bench Bouldin.

[sendero]

I am wondering how much longer Mac rotates QBs? Schmidt seems to be getting it done as well.

[bubbacoach]

I guess we do not have a head coach that will make that decision. Are they afraid of hurting someones feelings.

[Bucky]

Im sure Rackley will do what he has to do when he feels its time. Im guessing that he wants to make sure that Bermudez is the guy and give bouldin enough reps incase something happens to Bermudez.

[bubbacoach]

When will that be in spring ball? Right now is the right time to make that decision. The team will then have a QB to rally around.

[Reaganrattler07]

I am wondering how much longer Mac rotates QBs? Schmidt seems to be getting it done as well.

I don't like the QB rotation...doesn't allow one QB to get a momentum going, in my opinion. I'd let Udell take control for a few games, and then the last few when (or if) the playoffs are completely out of sight, throw in Schmidt (Junior) to get him ready for next year....let Udell have fun with his senior year.