Does Anyone Think Its Funny That.............................................. .......

[mcskittlez]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You All

[CoppellCowboy57]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You All

First Of All, Whats With Capatalizing Ever Single Word, Its Annoying....

second of all, over the past three years, it wouldnt have even matterd...

third, SLC moved up to 5A three years ago, they dont change there scd. so for the first two years, they couldnt really do anything about it...And If you had called Midland Lee, and Plano East a cupcake team a year ago ppl would have thought you were crazy... And Coppell is there rival, they will play Coppell every year..

fourth, where did you get this info? I think thats a load of Bull Hockey...

fifth, whats deal with all the dots......................................

[mcskittlez]

you call coppell a hard game????????????? LMFAO TRINITY will KILL you guys next week at your own stadium so look forward to that. AND YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD WIN THIS YEAR BETWEEN EULESS TRINITY AND SOUTHLAKE CARROLL IF THEY WERE TO PLAY????, WHICH THEY WON'T BECAUSE SOUTHLAKE CARROLL IS A BUNCH OF *******


ktchamp97's note:
I love the username, but go easy on the caps, please. And watch the language.

[RidgePride]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You All


Carroll has won 2 of 3 championships...Nuff Said.
This year who knows until the game is played. I think it would be close. I think last years Carroll would beat this years Trinity.

[wide-e-wide]

Wow...that has to be some kind of record for being banned.
Within the first 5 posts. I can't even compete with that.

[ktCarl]

"They HAS a cupcake regular season schedule"? That individual needs to spend just a little more time in freshman English.

[wide-e-wide]

What is you talkin' 'bout ktcarl. They does hava cupcake schedule...knowmsayin'?

[drgnbkr]

Trinity does'nt want any part of playing Carroll...when have they ever stated a desire to play the Dragons? More importantly, who has declined...?

[DragonFan]

This claim that teams are afraid to play other teams is just so outrageous that it barely merits comment. The schdules are made up two years in advance. Southlake has only been in 5a for 3 seasons. The first year they still had to play the teams that they had contracted with when they were in 4a. The next year they played Midland Lee in San Antonio as part of a Kickoff Classic and then had to play them in Abilene to finnish the Home/Home contract they had. Coppell is a rival that has been going for a long time and Plano East was a strong playoff team the first year the SLC played them. The district games are played against teams in your district. Not much flexibility there. Last year there were several playoff caliber teams in SLC's district and there will be at least 4 good teams this year.

The claim of winning against "cupcakes" is wrong and the claim of being afraid is also false. It is impossible to know how some teams are going to change from year to year so when you shcedule them in advance you can only guess as to how good they will be.

This same claim of cowardence was levied against SLC by Lamar posters last year, and Trinity posters ever since SLC won their first championship. Lamar is 0-3 this year and if SLC did play them this year it would be concidered a "cupcake" game.

Please read up on how schduling is done in High School Football before you post inflamitory material. Support your team but do not assume that you know the ins and outs of why everything is done without first doing your research.

A Trinity vs SLC game this year, could only fit at Texas Stadium and would be a great game. I believe that the style of play from SLC would overwhelm Trinity because SLC can defend against the run and have shut down many run offences, and Trinity has never had to face a team that plays such a fast paced game with lots of great recivers and passing.

If you want to see a SLC/Trinity game then go help scout teams for Denton Ryan and Richland so that they can get into the playoffs so that SLC can go Div 1. SLC would love it because historicly Div 1 has been an easier road to a State Championship than Div II because of the greater number of high ranked teams who play in division II. Plus it is 1 game shorter to get to the championship.

[ktCarl]

What is you talkin' 'bout ktcarl. They does hava cupcake schedule...knowmsayin'?

I KNOW you're joking! I don't know about the other poster. IF ya'll both ain't then high school wuz the tuffest 7 yrs of ya'lls life!!

Haven't looked into SLC's schedule. They have an easy one? Katy will have an easy one if the rest of their District keeps on being woeful as the past three games. Although Katy Taylor's defense looked good in beating Clear Lake.

[ALLIN]

A cupcake schedule? Denton Ryan and a Keller school that gave Trinity all they wanted in the playoffs last year. BTW Keller was third in our district.....THIRD! And almost handed it to you guys. Man, I hope SLC goes D1 so you will get your wish!

[stinger]

Dragonfan...typicaL Carrol fanots of hype, but no hope. What did they stop in the first half with Coppel? You say the same tyhing that some have said the first three games this year, and what happened? There are no facts to support any of your claims; and I do not know if Trinity has tried to schedule or if Carroll has refused. But I do know that it would be a great game.

[Texasfrog]

I have alot of respect for the Trinity team this season. They look really good going into District play. But, I wouldnt start "pounding ya'lls chest" to much just yet.

There is still alot of season to be played and alot of things can happen and there is some teams out there in Texas that can still play with ya'll (Trinity) down for down.

Be happy & excited for your team.. but dont underestimate about 10 other teams around Texas.

Next.. I wouldnt start calling out SLC either. I'm not from either school but just looking at the early results. Right now I would say a 50-50 toss up at best between those teams (SLC vs Trinity).

As far as the requesting to play SLC blah blah stuff over the last few years. Please dude.. where is this stuff coming from ?? YOU.....!!!??

[businesstron]

Trinity does play in the toughest district in texas...or atleat in DFW as someone puts it. They didn't win that last year so a lot of stuff can happen. But Carroll and Trinity are the Marquee teams right now.

[bhs06]

First Of All, Whats With Capatalizing Ever Single Word, Its Annoying....

fourth, where did you get this info? I think thats a load of Bull Hockey...

fifth, whats deal with all the dots......................................

Typical Trinity posts.

But he makes a good point, SLC's 3 non-district opponents this year are 2-7 or something like that. Throw in the weakened District 5-5A, they should have no problem beating every team in that district this season by 40 or more points and sitting their starters at halftime.

[mcskittlez]

About Trying To Schedule A Game With Southlake Carroll Thats What Trinitys Coach Steve Lineweaver Told The Whole Football Team And Our School, And That Everytime They Decline, So Unless Hes Lying Thats Where I Got This Information From

[dragonfootballfan]

About Trying To Schedule A Game With Southlake Carroll Thats What Trinitys Coach Steve Lineweaver Told The Whole Football Team And Our School, And That Everytime They Decline, So Unless Hes Lying Thats Where I Got This Information From
what your school has to realize is that Carroll cannot play everyone. They scheduled three non-district games two years ago. One was against Carroll's longtime rival Coppell. Another was against Midland Lee which was put together by the Dave Campbell's Kickoff Classic. The last was against a team that was a perrennial playoff team in Plano East. There are so many teams that were declined a matchup with carroll just because there are not enough games in the schedule to accomadate everyone

[mcskittlez]

ktchamp's note: please do not use all caps. we aren't 'deaf'.

[bhs06]

OH ONE MORE THING IF TRINITY HAD ALL OF OUR JUNIOR HIGHS COMBINE ALL INTO THE SAME HIGHSCHOOL LIKE SOUTHLAKE CARROLL HAS IT, INSTEAD OF HIGH SCHOOLS LIKE OURS THAT ARE SPLITTEN UP INTO TWO HIGHSCHOOLS SUCH AS L.D. BELL AND EULESS TRINITY, I'M SURE WE WOULD ALSO WIN STATE EVERY YEAR

Man our offense would be good if that happened. Just imagine, your offensive line and running backs, our wide recievers and there would be stiff competition at QB. Defensively we would also be good, our defensive lines are both tongan-laden so they are even and our linebackers are about even as well so that would be a toss up but I think our secondary is the best in the district.

[mcskittlez]

Exactly Thats What Im Saying, Thats The Advantage Southlake Carroll Has Over Everyone They Don't Have To Devide There High School Like Euless Trinity And L.d. Bell Has To And Almost Every Other High School Out There Has To

[dragonfootballfan]

Exactly Thats What Im Saying, Thats The Advantage Southlake Carroll Has Over Everyone They Don't Have To Devide There High School Like Euless Trinity And L.d. Bell Has To And Almost Every Other High School Out There Has To
Carroll has less students than either of those schools. They do not have an advantage in that area. When the schedule was set two years ago, Midland Lee was a few years removed from three straight State Championships and Plano East had been to the playoffs and done well for a long time. Coppell is Carroll's rival and also had a been to the playoffs before that. Say what you want, but you are not making any sense

[Slim-Rob]

The only time I recall my team (Judson) playing against Euless Trinity was in the '92 State Championship. The final score was Judson 52 Euless Trinity 0.

Now everytime I think of Euless Trinity I think of the newspaper headline "Rockets Rip Euless Trinity"

[mcskittlez]

WOW that was 1992, HMM what year are we in now?? oh yeah thats right 2005!! some one lives in the past. You guys wouldn't stand a chance against us this year

[Slim-Rob]

WOW that was 1992, HMM what year are we in now?? oh yeah thats right 2005!! some one lives in the past. You guys wouldn't stand a chance against us this year

FIRST OFF, I never said we would have a chance against you this year, I just said the only time I remember playing Trinity we won 52-0. AND you don't know that we wouldn't have a chance this year. We need a little work on our new offense still, but we will catch on sooner or later.

[Texasfrog]

WOW that was 1992, HMM what year are we in now?? oh yeah thats right 2005!! some one lives in the past. You guys wouldn't stand a chance against us this year

Man.. be careful. You're sitting yourself up for the big fall. :)

[CoppellCowboy57]

you call coppell a hard game????????????? LMFAO TRINITY will KILL you guys next week at your own stadium so look forward to that. AND YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD WIN THIS YEAR BETWEEN EULESS TRINITY AND SOUTHLAKE CARROLL IF THEY WERE TO PLAY????, WHICH THEY WON'T BECAUSE SOUTHLAKE CARROLL IS A BUNCH OF *******

I never said Coppell is a hard game, but its traditon coppell vs southlake...every year...Mind you we did score oh 24 points on them, and had a 9-0 first qter lead...Dont just count Coppell out...Maybe you learn how to type before you come on the board...you dont USE CAPS LOCK THE WHOLE TIME...

[DragonWatcher]

I also wondered what kind of student wouldn't be able to pass the new TAKS test but somethings you see on a message board never cease to amaze you. Did you ever think that you coach could have said those things to I dunno, pump your team up? My Uncle is a coach at Trinity so I think I wouldve heard some taunts from him if we did indeed deny a game. You need to be worrying more about graduating more than you do why Southlake and Trinity don't play, unless you want to spend the rest of your life flipping burgers, but then again, that might be as high as your educational skills allow your aspirations to go.

[CoppellCowboy57]

I also wondered what kind of student wouldn't be able to pass the new TAKS test but somethings you see on a message board never cease to amaze you. Did you ever think that you coach could have said those things to I dunno, pump your team up? My Uncle is a coach at Trinity so I think I wouldve heard some taunts from him if we did indeed deny a game. You need to be worrying more about graduating more than you do why Southlake and Trinity don't play, unless you want to spend the rest of your life flipping burgers, but then again, that might be as high as your educational skills allow your aspirations to go.

Right on, DW, MC, you should learn to say "would you like frys with that"

[mcskittlez]

this a highschool football forum so thats why i brought it up and you don't even know me so don't talk crap. I'm going to college next year so i won't have to worry about flipping burgers for your information. I'm sure your rich daddy will take care of your *** just like most southlake kids who have their parents give them everything and hold their hand through everything.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Exactly Thats What Im Saying, Thats The Advantage Southlake Carroll Has Over Everyone They Don't Have To Devide There High School Like Euless Trinity And L.d. Bell Has To And Almost Every Other High School Out There Has To

Isnt Euless Trinity one of the biggest high schools in the state, either way? and isnt L.D. Bell in Bedford not Euless, that would be like putting two citys against one...SLC is a realtivly small 5A school compared to Trinity. So it is fair, and thats not a true statement, meny 5A towns only have one team, why arnt they winning state championships?

[DragonWatcher]

Actually, I paid for my car in highschool, and insurance and gas(getttin to be a lot :mad: ), and I'm also paying for half of my college education with academic scholarships. Have fun at TCC or devry wherever you going but a piece of advice, English teachers don't like it when you type everyword in all caps. And you were the one who talked crap first calling SLC a bunch of "p*$$#^". Really I don't care if we have a weak non district schedule, whatever were doing seems to work because as I type, I have a ring that says State Champions 2004 and your school hasn't even won one yet.

That better wide? Sorry I was just quoting

[wide-e-wide]

PG board...can't say the "p" word.
If I can't do it...you can't either.

Hey kt...not only am I following the rules...I'm making sure everybody
else does to...I hate the "new" Wide...thanks a lot...you turned me into
a sissy. I hope your happy.

[CoppellCowboy57]

PG board...can't say the "p" word.
If I can't do it...you can't either.

Hey kt...not only am I following the rules...I'm making sure everybody
else does to...I hate the "new" Wide...thanks a lot...you turned me into
a sissy. I hope your happy.

they say the "p" word in PG movies these days, i would have to say this board is a G board..lol...

good for you DW, but what does you buying your own car have todo with anything?

[CoppellCowboy57]

And honestly, What good team has Euless Trinity Beat this year. Midland Lee (1-2), Tyler Lee (1-2), Desoto (1-2). Hurm, not one of thoughs teams has a winning record... What about Coppell, Jesuit (1-2), SLC (3-0), Duncanville (2-1) so wait lets add that up, compined opponets record for Coppell for the first three games, 6-3 against Usless Trinity, 3-6 hrm...
now Usless Trinity plays coppell (another 1-2 team), and Coppell plays another 3-0 team, hrm, what good teams have trinity play, now honestly, you havnt played on good team yet...now get back to me when you play another good team

[DragonWatcher]

It was just that skittles or whatever the hell is name is was saying I should go back to my rich daddy who buys me everything, just proving him wrong. He's dissin SLC for thier record when they play one of the same teams, and the other teams also have a losing record.

[PurpleNation]

WELL WHENEVER SOUTHLAKE WANTS TO SCHEDULE A REAL GAME WITH A POWERHOUSE LIKE TRINITY INSTEAD OF PLAYING SOME PUSS 1-2 PLANO EAST TEAM OR A 0-3 HAS BEEN MIDLAND LEE TEAM WE WILL BE WAITING. :p LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD YOU GUYS WANT TO PLAY EASY NONDISTRICT GAMES SO YOU GUYS CAN KEEP THAT PERFECT LOOKING RECORD TO YOU STAY IN THE NATIONAL RANKINGS AND GET ALL THAT EXPOSURE, NOT TO MENTION YOU GUYS HAVE A CUPCAKE DISTRICT. OMG HALTOM AND COLLEYVILLE HERITAGE THE OTHER 3-0 TEAMS IN YOUR DISTRICT WHAT A HARD TEST LOL. OH ONE MORE THING IF TRINITY HAD ALL OF OUR JUNIOR HIGHS COMBINE ALL INTO THE SAME HIGHSCHOOL LIKE SOUTHLAKE CARROLL HAS IT, INSTEAD OF HIGH SCHOOLS LIKE OURS THAT ARE SPLITTEN UP INTO TWO HIGHSCHOOLS SUCH AS L.D. BELL AND EULESS TRINITY, I'M SURE WE WOULD ALSO WIN STATE EVERY YEAR

LOL! SLC scared of Euless Trinity you beat a horrible Tyler Lee squad now you are the real deal. SLC is not scared to play anyone they have played the best and have beat the best. Im a Lufkin Panther but I gotta give credit were credit is due. SLC is the real deal, and Euless should chill ought just a lil bit. And oh yeah didnt ET beat that same 0-3 Midland Lee squad so do everybody a favor shut up and quit calling out State Champs until you are one.

Flashback 2001- Reggie Looks right throws pass complete into the endzone goes Jeremy Berry TD Lufkin (27-23). Have you forgot. Smile.

[Trinityplayer]

First of all Tyler Lee is 2-2 and faced a nationally ranked team at their house and us the number 7 team in the state. Also Duncanville is 1-2, Jesuit 1-2, and Soutlake 3-0. A combined record of 5-4. So how many good teams have you guys beaten. So you better watch out because yall are next. Also I play football for trinity and have never heard coach Lineweaver say something like that about Southlake. He has said nothing but good things about Soutlake. Why would he, he used to coach their and his son still does. Also as a player I would like to say that we know we have alot to work on. So before we start tooting are own horn we need to realize we've only played 3 games.

[DragonWatcher]

Hey TrinityPlayer, thanks for clarifying man. Trinity is my second favorite team and I was really hopin y'all would go all the way last year. Keep it up man and I have no doubt y'all will be playin in Decembmer for what you want.

[myround0]

LOL! SLC scared of Euless Trinity you beat a horrible Tyler Lee squad now you are the real deal. SLC is not scared to play anyone they have played the best and have beat the best. Im a Lufkin Panther but I gotta give credit were credit is due. SLC is the real deal, and Euless should chill ought just a lil bit. And oh yeah didnt ET beat that same 0-3 Midland Lee squad so do everybody a favor shut up and quit calling out State Champs until you are one.

Flashback 2001- Reggie Looks right throws pass complete into the endzone goes Jeremy Berry TD Lufkin (27-23). Have you forgot. Smile.

This is what I was saying Lufkin...one win over Tyler Lee and this teams is the best thing since slice bread...Lufkin, and Longview beat Tyler Lee last year and we didn't go pounding our chest...Matter of fact Euless Trinity beat Tyler Lee last year, during the regular season, in the playoffs Lee ousted the same Trinity team...I would be careful if I am Trinity...Lee, bottom line, is not what they were last year, but the coaching staff will take it upon themselves to get this thing turned around...It is nice to see you love your Trinity team and you should, but you are not the first team to beat Tyler Lee in Rose Stadium

[drgnbkr]

this a highschool football forum so thats why i brought it up and you don't even know me so don't talk crap. I'm going to college next year so i won't have to worry about flipping burgers for your information. I'm sure your rich daddy will take care of your *** just like most southlake kids who have their parents give them everything and hold their hand through everything.

You need to put the beer down & take a deep breath skittles....Coach Lineweaver would crap if he saw some of the stuff your spewing....try mixing in a little history before you go off on your "We are kings of the world" mission....Trinity looks pretty good this year, but you make your rep in December, not September...good luck!

[CoppellCowboy57]

First of all Tyler Lee is 2-2 and faced a nationally ranked team at their house and us the number 7 team in the state. Also Duncanville is 1-2, Jesuit 1-2, and Soutlake 3-0. A combined record of 5-4. So how many good teams have you guys beaten. So you better watch out because yall are next. Also I play football for trinity and have never heard coach Lineweaver say something like that about Southlake. He has said nothing but good things about Soutlake. Why would he, he used to coach their and his son still does. Also as a player I would like to say that we know we have alot to work on. So before we start tooting are own horn we need to realize we've only played 3 games.

thanks for that, We havent beaten any good teams, i never said that, we have a tough non-district, I dont think Coppell will beat Trinity, im not even going to the game, i think its going to be a blow out, im thinking about hitting up a game In So.Cal...

[toonman]

I see a very good Euless Trinity team firing on all cylinders, achieving a 3-0 record. I also see SLC at 3-0, but have not yet attained their best this season. I say that all other State Title Contenders need to be prepared to meet SLC if SLC starts to fire on all cylinders. ET have hit their groove and SLC have not. ET deserve the accolades, but SLC remain the team to beat. All a team can do is play the opponents who show to play and amass the playing record that way. You cannot take anything away from teams that 3-0 or 4-0, just because you believe they have a soft schedule.

[bhs06]

And honestly, What good team has Euless Trinity Beat this year. Midland Lee (1-2), Tyler Lee (1-2), Desoto (1-2). Hurm, not one of thoughs teams has a winning record... What about Coppell, Jesuit (1-2), SLC (3-0), Duncanville (2-1) so wait lets add that up, compined opponets record for Coppell for the first three games, 6-3 against Usless Trinity, 3-6 hrm...
now Usless Trinity plays coppell (another 1-2 team), and Coppell plays another 3-0 team, hrm, what good teams have trinity play, now honestly, you havnt played on good team yet...now get back to me when you play another good team

Actually Midland Lee is 0-3

[drgnbkr]

I guess if Trinity is good enough to hang around in the playoffs for a while then they will get their wish to play some of the more respected teams. D-1 or D-2, it gets pretty salty from the Quarters on...as Trinity knows well, not having had much success after that point.....they are good this year, but so are some of the other usual suspects...we'll see, wont we?

[Eagle Hombre]

What I think is funny is the Texas Playoff system. All of this could easily by settled by going back to the single 5A Division Championship format. I think its a good idea to let 4 teams from each district qualify, but lets not water down the championships. I think its time to go back to a single 5A champion and settle everything on the field, instead of message boards. Last year this website had a superbracket scenario if we went back to a single champion. I thought it was great idea that needs to get more traction from the fans that support Texas 5A football. It would settle alot of conjecture. :D :D :D

[Texasfrog]

What I think is funny is the Texas Playoff system. All of this could easily by settled by going back to the single 5A Division Championship format. I think its a good idea to let 4 teams from each district qualify, but lets not water down the championships. I think its time to go back to a single 5A champion and settle everything on the field, instead of message boards. Last year this website had a superbracket scenario if we went back to a single champion. I thought it was great idea that needs to get more traction from the fans that support Texas 5A football. It would settle alot of conjecture. :D :D :D

I know its a pain and everyones always going to say... "whose the #1 team ?"

But, in reality the system is pretty good and pretty fair for everyone. Texas has alot of High school teams in the 5A brackett and really we either go back to the 2 teams per district make the playoffs or to the future 4 team per district.

The (UIL) wont go back to the 2 team per district because its all about the money. More teams, more playoff games, more money.

Plus, I like rewarding more kids with playoffs. They deserve it for working hard.

We'll just have to debate and argue each year on who would be the real #1..

[drgnbkr]

I agree for the most part with what you say, but I don't know about the school size thing...Plano East is the largest school in Texas with over 5000 students..It has'nt gotten them anywhere..You'd think the coaches would have a lot more talent to choose from...It still comes down to coaching & execution, regardless of the size of the school...Allen is huge & has had some success recently but can't get over the hump.....

[pack0808]

Lufkin beat Euless Trinity in 2001 in a very close game in the state semis and Tyler Lee beat them last year when it counted and when they were healthy in the state semis. What did Trinity do in 2002 and 2003?? Nada!! Lufkin beat Tyler Lee by 11 last year while SLC beat Lufkin by 7!! You do the math. SLC would have beat anybody last year and they proved that. The person that started this thread sounds pathetic!! SLC was the best team in the state and probably the nation last year deal with it. Lee would have played SLC close and Longview would have played them very close but they would have lost just like Lufkin did in a close game.

[Texasfrog]

I agree for the most part with what you say, but I don't know about the school size thing...Plano East is the largest school in Texas with over 5000 students..It has'nt gotten them anywhere..You'd think the coaches would have a lot more talent to choose from...It still comes down to coaching & execution, regardless of the size of the school...Allen is huge & has had some success recently but can't get over the hump.....

The only other thing to do would be to make a 6A bracket. Probably schools with (3,000) and more enrollment numbers.

But, there wouldnt be enough schools to make districts unless you wanted teams driving all over Texas each Friday night. So, that's not going to happen.

So, we keep one 5A division and take the 2 biggest enrollments and put them in D-1 and next 2 and put them in D-11.

I like it and its probably the best thing to do right now. It would take a complete overall of all the classifications to make it better and trust me it would still have more flaws in it when you take into account all the sports and not just football.

[GTown02]

I would love to see a SLC vs ET matchup... would be a great game. ET has had a great year, but they shouldnt be beating their chests just yet... they have a great squad and should do some great things this season if they can keep focused on each team, each week...

[Texasfrog]

I would love to see a SLC vs ET matchup... would be a great game. ET has had a great year, but they shouldnt be beating their chests just yet... they have a great squad and should do some great things this season if they can keep focused on each team, each week...

Dont count out about 6 to 8 other teams across the State that could probably play with them.

Everybody is jumping on the SLC vs Trinity game as the State title game. But, man there is about 6 or so other teams right now that could play with them down for down.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

There are really no such things as cupcake schedules...there are risks and non-risks.

A coach would rather have simple wins, than upsets or close calls. But they do understand there has to be a balance of tests every year to prepare you for the playoffs. It just upsets people when SLC beats all of their competition, except 1 loss, and it happens over 4 or 5 years. People say, "Well they don't play anyone!"...well I think if most teams played SLC's schedule they'd lose once or twice a year.

Then again if SLC played 4 top ranked squads, 3 good teams, and 3 average squads they might lose once...maybe twice a year. However if anyone else played that same schedule they'd lose 4, 5 or maybe even 6 times a year!!

[DragonFan]

I am a real proponent of the "Super Bracket" proposal that was talked about last year. I brought it up to several of the DFW area sportcasters and sport writers. Several of them took it to coaches, who for the most part thought it was interesting but not a good idea. You see the coaches are there to coach young men and help them turn into leaders and quality human beings. Part of that training is to put them in pressure situations such as playoff games. I thought that the "Super Bracket" worked very well for 3 playoff teams but the UIL is more concerened with getting more kids a chance to play in the playoffs. With 4 teams per district getting to the playoffs, I feel the playoffs are watered down but I would not ever denil a kid who worked his butt off all year a chance to say he played in the state championship playoffs! Some say it is about money, some say it is about a chance to play a playoff game. Whatever the motivation, that is the way it is going to be.

All of us who have had our chance to play remember it one way where a playoff spot was earned by only the best in the district, but the following of High School football was not as intense. Now that 3 and soon 4 make the playoffs then there will be at least 4 very excited schools per district who can say they played at least 1 more game. A playoff game!

If this was pro sports where players were compensated for playing or coaches careers were decided on games, then I would say 1 champ is the only way to go. But, as an educator who enjoys looking at a young mans face as it lights up when he talks about all the hard work he did during his high school career and to hear him say "I was in the playoffs!", well all this talk about a true championship game is just trivial. Each player who gives his all on every play is a true champion! Some kids are gifted, some get to play for gifted coaches, some have to sweat it out on underachiving teams, and some just do not get a chance. There are a lot more "Rudys" than there are "Aikman's". "Aikman's" get to wear a ring, Rudy's get to talk about playing the game!

This board is about taking about the game! Therefore we are all Rudy's!

Congradulations to all the true champions! The players, coaches, bands, cheerleaders, pep squads, flag corps, Crews, and all of the support groups that back them!

[pack0808]

There should be one champ and 2 teams per district in the playofs but the UIL could care less about what it is good for the game all they care about is CASH!!

[GTown02]

Dont count out about 6 to 8 other teams across the State that could probably play with them.

Everybody is jumping on the SLC vs Trinity game as the State title game. But, man there is about 6 or so other teams right now that could play with them down for down.
I never said it would be the state matchup... re-read what I typed...
SLC cant even play ET in the playoffs right? ET is going D1 and SLC is D2... last time I checked they dont play each other....

I was just simply stating that it would be a great matchup and great game... I would gladly pay to see it :D

[DragonFan]

Please read my previous post.

The UIL is not making a lot of money from the playoff games.

Some of the school will be making extra money, but some schools will be hard pressed to raise money to get all the support groups to a playoff game if they have to travel very far. To enhance the High School experience, why not let 1 more team per district get a playoff experience? The UIL has already voted for it. That means that the rank and file of most the AD's and head coaches in Texas all agreed that it was a good idea!

My life and that of all my children will not be enhanced or distracted from if there is 1 or 2 State Champions. To get to the game a team has to overcome a lot of opponents and prove on a weekly basis that it deserves to be a champion. I can live with 2 champs, Exspecially if you look at how some of the other states crown champions! Our system is not the best but it is by far not the worse either!

[pack0808]

1 champ per classification only makes sense!! It does not take a genius to figure out that is the best decision!! If they insist on having div1 and div2 fine but they should play each other in the end!! Do not tell me they do not have a financial interest in more playoff games in football or they would do the same in the other sport's. Baseball and Basketball has 1 champion the last time i checked.

[LoneStarProud]

I wish all these folks talking "smash mouth" would realize that they are the reason that people start to look down upon certain teams. I have an enormous amount of respect for Trinity, Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, Katy,
Smithson Valley and the list goes on...Trashing other programs just reveals to all us "real" Texas High school football fans that the person doing the trash talk has poor character (or bad judgement). If you want to toot your horn and proclaim your team is great then have at it. Just do your team a favor in the process and show a little class. Ripping other programs doesn't bring your team up any notches, it is just poor sportsmanship. And as Forrest Gump would say..."Thats all I got to say about that"!

[relraiderfan]

Lufkin beat Euless Trinity in 2001 in a very close game in the state semis and Tyler Lee beat them last year when it counted and when they were healthy in the state semis. What did Trinity do in 2002 and 2003?? Nada!! Lufkin beat Tyler Lee by 11 last year while SLC beat Lufkin by 7!! You do the math. SLC would have beat anybody last year and they proved that. The person that started this thread sounds pathetic!! SLC was the best team in the state and probably the nation last year deal with it. Lee would have played SLC close and Longview would have played them very close but they would have lost just like Lufkin did in a close game.

pack, I love how you compare a score from week 4 and a score from the state semi's and get away with it. I just had to call you out. ;)

[nsmustang]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You All

mcs- I wondered about that this season for SLC myself. I saw their schedule and Midland Lee and Denton Ryan looked to be the only tough guys on it. Make no mistake in what I'm saying, SLC is a good team and being a Shore fan I can relate to an easy regular season schedule so I can't throw stones.
It's when the playoffs start that the rubber meets the road. It would be settled in my mind if SLC could meet Westfield and beat them. From what I've seen so far, Westfield is the best team in the state. Not only that, but they are in 22-5A and that is one tough district.

[bleedgreen]

watch out TexasFrog, myround, and drgnbkr-----i asked for them to quit beating their chests earlier and got jumped on and called names---pretty sensitive, i guess??

[LUFPAN]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You All

Personally, us Lufkin folks haven't had a whole lot of luck against them South Lake "cup cakes" the last couple of years. If ET goes divsion two you may very well get your wish. But be careful what you wish for....you may just get it. Every year peopel come on the boards and critisize SLC's schedule and every year SLC continues to win, playing in the last 3 state finals and winning 2 of them. Seems to me the "cup cakes" are doing pretty good.

[SLCDad]

Does Anyone Think That It's Funny That For The Last Several Years Euless Trinity Has Asked And Offered To Play Southlake Carroll But They Decline Everytime??????? I Think There's A Reason Southlake Carroll Has Such A Winning Tradition Because They Don't Always Want To Play The Best. They Has A Cupcake Regular Season Schedule, I Mean They Are One Of The Best They Just Don't Always Want To Play The Best Until They Have No Choice When It Comes To Playoff Season. They Still Win Normally In The Post Season But Lets Be Honest Who Do You Think Would Win This Year Between Southlake Carroll And Euless Trinity If They Were To Play On A Neautral Field To Make It Even???? Give Me Some Feed Back And Let Me Know Your Honest Opinion On This Question I Ask To You AllStupid, stupid, stupid post. In 2004 SLC had one of the toughest roads to the championship ever. They proved themselves on the field. If SLC had to respond every team (or every stupid fan) that wanted a chance to knock them off they would need to play 100 games a year. It's just best to save all this sillyness until in counts - THE PLAYOFFS.

Trinity needs to worry about the playoffs and not about SLC. They haven't won anything yet. I hope they are successful this year.

[stevefoxsc]

See whats great about post like this, is every now and then a fanatic from team will have there up year and are willing to take on any one in the state or even the nation. Then comes graduation next year and they lose key players then they get there wish play there team and lose. I'm sure tons of Arlinton lamar fans would have to agree with me the 03 team was the best in DWF area but they never got there dream match with SLC to prove it.

[SLCDad]

See whats great about post like this, is every now and then a fanatic from team will have there up year and are willing to take on any one in the state or even the nation. Then comes graduation next year and they lose key players then they get there wish play there team and lose. I'm sure tons of Arlinton lamar fans would have to agree with me the 03 team was the best in DWF area but they never got there dream match with SLC to prove it.Lamar lost and never beat the best of the best. Your comment about the best in DFW could be true . . . but . . . . SLC and Denton Ryan both had higher power ratings at year end.

[pack0808]

pack, I love how you compare a score from week 4 and a score from the state semi's and get away with it. I just had to call you out. ;)

Believe me on this, I have seen Tyler Lee play several several times and i have seen SLC play 4 or 5 times and twice live. Trust me, Tyler Lee would have given SLC a run for their money but SLC would have definitely won last year in my opinion. Tyler Lee would have played anybody tough and beat 98 percent of the teams last year and they proved it. I say SLC would have won by 10 if they met but i guess you never know and it is pointless to predict. I was just responding to the silly thread. They are the undefeated champs and they deserve their props. They have beat everybody that has been put in their way besides Katy in 03.

[stevefoxsc]

Lamar lost and never beat the best of the best. Your comment about the best in DFW could be true . . . but . . . . SLC and Denton Ryan both had higher power ratings at year end.

in your oppinion who was the best of the best in DWF the 03 year next to SLC they were the only DWF team to atleast get to Semi's, and they did lose to eventual state finalist Woodlands. It's my oppinion that they could have taken on Slc in a good game and beatem the 03 year that is

[DragonFan]

Lamar's loss was a big one in 03 but they would never had meet SLC because Lamar was playing D1 and SLC was D2.

Last year was supposed to be Lamar's year with the best group of Seniors ever by some peoples observations. They were going to be able to play SLC because both were D2 last year. Lamar did not get it done in the playoffs to have the chance to prove who was the better team.

Lamar has now opened this season at 0-3 and appear to be in a very down year for them.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Lamar's loss was a big one in 03 but they would never had meet SLC because Lamar was playing D1 and SLC was D2.

Last year was supposed to be Lamar's year with the best group of Seniors ever by some peoples observations. They were going to be able to play SLC because both were D2 last year. Lamar did not get it done in the playoffs to have the chance to prove who was the better team.

Lamar has now opened this season at 0-3 and appear to be in a very down year for them.

Draron fan my friend, you are mistaken, in 2003 Arlington Lamar was D2 with us. If I remember correctly coppell lost like 29-19, in the second round of the D2 Play-offs, and the year before that in 02 coppell lost 56-0 in the second round of the play-offs to Lamar in D2

[DragonFan]

Thanks for the corrections! I have family and friends who played for Lamar and had kids graduate from there. I have always liked the Lamar tradition. It seems that every year this is someone from Lamar who wanted a piece of the Dragons. It is a bit sobering to see a team from Lamar start out 0-3.

I went to last weeks Lamar game and accidently wore my Carroll Dragons hat. Out of respect for Lamar I removed my hat and just walked around with my "Hat Hair"!

[relraiderfan]

Believe me on this, I have seen Tyler Lee play several several times and i have seen SLC play 4 or 5 times and twice live. Trust me, Tyler Lee would have given SLC a run for their money but SLC would have definitely won last year in my opinion. Tyler Lee would have played anybody tough and beat 98 percent of the teams last year and they proved it. I say SLC would have won by 10 if they met but i guess you never know and it is pointless to predict. I was just responding to the silly thread. They are the undefeated champs and they deserve their props. They have beat everybody that has been put in their way besides Katy in 03.

im not going to argue with you at all. SLC was incredible again last year. Tyler Lee just happened to be playing their best ball at the end of the season. If they would have met in week 16 you never know what would have happened. i just had to give you a hard time.

[stevefoxsc]

Lamar's loss was a big one in 03 but they would never had meet SLC because Lamar was playing D1 and SLC was D2.

Last year was supposed to be Lamar's year with the best group of Seniors ever by some peoples observations. They were going to be able to play SLC because both were D2 last year. Lamar did not get it done in the playoffs to have the chance to prove who was the better team.

Lamar has now opened this season at 0-3 and appear to be in a very down year for them.

my oppinion the 04 ARL team was not that great i liked the 03 team more but if the 04 team was supposed to be better either some teams got better in the time frame

[dragonsdaddy]

the 03 team at al was definitely d-1 in 03. they lost to the woodlands just before gpns had a chance to destroy them. they were d-2 in 04 and lost in ot to allen in the first round b4 we would have squashed them.

[drgnbkr]

Lamar has always talked a good game but never been able actually win when it mattered....

[SLCDad]

in your oppinion who was the best of the best in DWF the 03 year next to SLC they were the only DWF team to atleast get to Semi's, and they did lose to eventual state finalist Woodlands. It's my oppinion that they could have taken on Slc in a good game and beatem the 03 year that isFrankly, 2003 is ancient history. The final 2003 power ratings had two North Texas teams above Lamar. That's good enough for me.

[CoppellCowboy57]

the 03 team at al was definitely d-1 in 03. they lost to the woodlands just before gpns had a chance to destroy them. they were d-2 in 04 and lost in ot to allen in the first round b4 we would have squashed them.

wait does that mean Coppell was D1 as well? man im confused

[dragonsdaddy]

don't get us started down that path. we don't need any confused marines. yes, you were d-1. i believe marcus and slc were the d-2 reps.

[SLC13]

wait does that mean Coppell was D1 as well? man im confused

Coppell was D1 in 2003.........
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/5A2003Div1.html

[Red Raiders]

Coppell was D1 in 2003.........
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/5A2003Div1.html

lol population decreasing like Tyler John Tyler?

[SLCDad]

lol population decreasing like Tyler John Tyler?
No way. Coppell is a growing community. Very nice place to live. A lot like Southlake.

[Red Raiders]

No way. Coppell is a growing community. Very nice place to live. A lot like Southlake.

Well, I think Tyler is growing like crazy because I see alot of constrution out here in South Tyler. If you can see that Mid Tyler, a very very nice place like Southlake and River Oaks in Houston.

[dragonsdaddy]

No way. Coppell is a growing community. Very nice place to live. A lot like Southlake.
that district included the lville schools, with lville being the largest and coppell 2nd. trinity is the largest school in their district now.

[RidgePride]

Exactly Thats What Im Saying, Thats The Advantage Southlake Carroll Has Over Everyone They Don't Have To Devide There High School Like Euless Trinity And L.d. Bell Has To And Almost Every Other High School Out There Has To
That is not much of an advantage because Southlake has around 2000 students and Trinity has around 3000

[CoppellCowboy57]

Coppell was D1 in 2003.........
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/5A2003Div1.html


I was sure we were D2, who was the third play-off team from 7-5A that year

[dragonsdaddy]

you beat lville in week 9 i believe, which booted them out. they were the largest. marcus was the other i believe. you were the second largest. who did you lose to in rd 1 that year? al played and beat trinity(definitely d-1) in 02 and 03. if you lost to them, that's proof. a-l has been d-1 every year except last(04) when allen eliminated them.

[farmerfan]

I was sure we were D2, who was the third play-off team from 7-5A that year

DD has already said it in a previous post, it was Marcus, they lost to Irving 35-17 to finish 4-7.

[farmerfan]

Coppell beat SGP, and lost the following week to Arlington Lamar.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Coppell beat SGP, and lost the following week to Arlington Lamar.

Yeah i know, I thought it was Coppell and Southlake were in D2, and Marcus was D1..But Im sure you guys are right