Thanks for participating in the 2005 season

[lonny23]

THIS IS THE UPDATE AFTER 22 OCT 05 GAMES.

In the spirit of Tony Bruno, thanks for participating in the 2005 season. Turn in your jock straps at the door (Playoff success is non-existent or limited). Some teams stay because they haven't shown that they won't win yet, but I expect them to falter. This is after Week 8 games:

REGION 1 OUT (56)
El Paso Americas
EP Bel Air
EP Coronado
EP Eastwood
EP Franklin
EP Hanks
EP Montwood
EP Socorro

Amarillo
A Tascosa
Lubbock
L Coronado
L Monterey
San Angelo Central

Abilene Cooper
Midland
M Lee
Odessa
O Permian

Burleson
Fort Worth Boswell
FW Paschal
Granbury
Mansfield
M Summit
North Crowley
Weatherford

Colleyville Heritage
Denton Ryan
FW Haltom
Grapevine
Keller
K Fossil Ridge
North Richland Hills Richland

Coppell
Grand Prairie
Hurst Bell
Irving
I MacArthur
I Nimitz
SGP

Arlington
A Bowie
A Houston
A Lamar
A Martin
Cedar Hill
DeSoto
Duncanville

Allen
Flower Mound
FM Marcus
Lewisville
Plano East
P West
The Colony

REGION 2 OUT (55)
Dallas Bryan Adams
D Molina
D Samuell
D Skyline
D Sunset
D White

Carrollton Creekview
C Newman Smith
C Turner
Dallas Jesuit
Richardson
R Berkner
R Lake Highlands
R Pearce

Garland
G Lakeview Centennial
G Naaman Forest
G Rowlett
G Sachse
North Garland
South Garland

Mesquite
M Horn
North Mesquite
Rockwall
Tyler John Tyler
T Lee

A&M Consolidated
Belton
Bryan
Copperas Cove
Killeen Harker Heights
K Shoemaker
Temple
Waco

Conroe
C Oak Ridge
Huntsville
Klein
K Collins
K Forest

Cedar Park
Georgetown
Leander
Round Rock
RR McNeil
RR Stony Point
RR Westwood

A High
A Akins
A Anderson
A Bowie
A Crockett
Bastrop
Hays Consolidated

REGION 3 OUT (61)
Cypress Creek
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Cy Ridge
Cy Springs
Jersey Village
Langham Creek
Magnolia
Tomball

Aldine
A Eisenhower
A Nimitz
Houston MacArthur
H Memorial
H Northbrook
H Spring Woods
H Stratford

Alief Elsik
A Hastings
A Taylor
Houston Strake Jesuit
Katy Cinco Ranch
K Mayde Creek
K Taylor

Fort Bend Austin
FB Bush
FB Clements
FB Dulles
FB Elkins
FB Hightower
FB Kempner
FB Marshall
FB Willowridge

Houston Bellaire
H Austin
H Chavez
H Madison
H Milby
H Sam Houston
H Westside

Baytown Lee
B Sterling
Beaumont West Brook
Humble
H Kingwood
Port Arthur Memorial
Spring

Deer Park
La Porte
Pasadena
P Dobie
P Memorial
P Sam Rayburn
P South Houston

Alvin
Clear Brook
C Creek
C Lake
Clute Brazoswood
Galveston Ball
Pearland

REGION 4 OUT (54)
San Antonio East Central
SA Highlands
SA Jefferson
SA Southwest
San Marcos
Seguin

Converse Judson
San Antonio Lee
SA MacArthur
SA Reagan
SA Roosevelt

Del Rio
San Antonio Clark
SA Holmes
SA Jay
SA Marshall
SA O'Connor
SA Taft
SA Warren

Corpus Christi Carroll
CC King
CC Miller
CC Moody
CC Ray
Victoria Memorial

Eagle Pass
Laredo Alexander
L Cigarroa
L Johnson
L Martin
L Nixon
L United
L United South (Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!)

LaJoya
McAllen
M Memorial
M Rowe
Mission Sharyland
Rio Grande City

Donna
Edinburg
E Economedes
E North
Pharr San Juan Alamo
PSJA North
Weslaco

Brownsville Hanna
B Pace
B Porter
B Rivera
Harlingen
H South
Los Fresnos
San Benito

My next email will be part of my Week 9 cut. I reserve the right to take a team back, though. We have 226 teams OUT and 18 IN.

All the teams still in:

REGION 1 IN (4)
Abilene
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
Plano

REGION 2 IN (6)
Dallas Carter
Longview
Lufkin
The Woodlands
Pflugerville
Austin Westlake

REGION 3 IN (4)
Katy
Houston Lamar
Spring Westfield
Galena Park North Shore

REGION 4 IN (4)
Schertz Clemens
San Antonio Churchill
SA Madison
Smithson Valley

[STJL41]

I'm still having a hard time seeing Houston Strake Jesuit make the playoffs. If they manage, more power to them, but I doubt it.

I must say though, you put some work into this. I agree with the vast majority of what you have predicted. Not that you needed my confirmation, I just figured I would toss in my two cents.

[lonny23]

I'm still having a hard time seeing Houston Strake Jesuit make the playoffs. If they manage, more power to them, but I doubt it.
I can't say they will and I'm not betting the house on playoff success, but they haven't proven otherwise yet. Some of these teams won't show us anything in the regular season because they play chump non-district games followed by crap districts.

[mad_fan]

lonny, if 62.7% are already out, shouldnt the thread be titled...
Thanks for not participating in the 2005 season?

[lonny23]

lonny, if 62.7% are already out, shouldnt the thread be titled...
Thanks for not participating in the 2005 season?
Tony Bruno always said Thanks for Participating when he was dismissing teams/players.

[lonny23]

I incorporated this edit into the original post. I took out too many teams and did an edit of the first post.

[mad_fan]

Skins wont like that, but I said two weeks ago Reagan wouldnt be in THIS year. BTW checked my safe and all i have are Bahrain dinar, can you spend those there.

[lonny23]

Skins wont like that, but I said two weeks ago Reagan wouldnt be in THIS year. BTW checked my safe and all i have are Bahrain dinar, can you spend those there.
Nah, probably only Russian Ruples, Dollars, and I can't remember what they call the Kyrgzy money. I do know the exchange rate is 40 to the dollar.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Ouch...that hurts

[lonny23]

Ouch...that hurts
The regular season does not always match the playoffs, but it's very hard to get 30 points better over the course of 3 months.

[TrueBlue]

Don't forget Crowley that started 0-4 and was a state semifinalist -- it might be a little early to start throwing in the towels -- the real season starts this weekend --

[bhs06]

I'm not liking this thread.

Non-district showings, while not completely useless, still can't be viewed the same as a district game.

Our coaches experimented a bit in all 3 of our non-district games, because its not the end of the world if you lose the games. Might as well snap out of all the "turn the ball over in your own red zone twice in a matter of 15 seconds" out of your system in non-district rather than in district where it counts.

With this being said, even though we have had piss poor offensive efforts the past two games, does that change my opinion about how I think we will do in non-district? No. I still believe we are going to go 7-0 in district and go to the playoffs. In order to do so, you have to believe. Call me crazy but until you can predict the future my opinion is going to have to be resepcted. Our defense has turned in 2 outstanding games the past two games, if our offense can play as well as the defense has we will do something.

[bell grad dad]

CRAZY, CRAZY, CRAZY.

BHS06, I am proud of your school spirit and belief in your team. Get the rest of them on your page/ Was worried about you after Friday night. This is your first post i think since and I thought maybe something had happend on Friday.

One question, why did your coach pull Joe Mauro in the firth with 9:30 or so left and bell still somewhat in the game. In my mind, he was giving up and looking to this Friday, not a good sign or message to the team. just my two cents worth

[lonny23]

Don't forget Crowley that started 0-4 and was a state semifinalist -- it might be a little early to start throwing in the towels -- the real season starts this weekend --
That was North Crowley and I never took them out. It's not all about wins and losses but how you compete against good teams.

[lonny23]

I'm not liking this thread.

Non-district showings, while not completely useless, still can't be viewed the same as a district game.

Our coaches experimented a bit in all 3 of our non-district games, because its not the end of the world if you lose the games. Might as well snap out of all the "turn the ball over in your own red zone twice in a matter of 15 seconds" out of your system in non-district rather than in district where it counts.

With this being said, even though we have had piss poor offensive efforts the past two games, does that change my opinion about how I think we will do in non-district? No. I still believe we are going to go 7-0 in district and go to the playoffs. In order to do so, you have to believe. Call me crazy but until you can predict the future my opinion is going to have to be resepcted. Our defense has turned in 2 outstanding games the past two games, if our offense can play as well as the defense has we will do something.

I'll tell you what. If you win the next 3 weeks, you'll almost be off my done list, but you'll definitely get off the list if you beat Euless Trinity. The point spread says you'll be favored in 1 more game this year and double digit underdogs in the rest. The good part is the game is played on the field and if you guys get on a roll, I'll acknowledge it. Hey, I'd like to see you guys beat Trinity. My uncle used to live in Hurst and some of my cousins went to school at Bell.

[bhs06]

CRAZY, CRAZY, CRAZY.

BHS06, I am proud of your school spirit and belief in your team. Get the rest of them on your page/ Was worried about you after Friday night. This is your first post i think since and I thought maybe something had happend on Friday.

One question, why did your coach pull Joe Mauro in the firth with 9:30 or so left and bell still somewhat in the game. In my mind, he was giving up and looking to this Friday, not a good sign or message to the team. just my two cents worth

Ahh, just relishing the loss. I hate losing, especially in the manner we have lost the past 2 games. It sucks having a team score 2 touchdowns in a matter of 15 seconds and having the game escape from you. It's tough to deal with so it took me a while to get over it.

I'm pretty sure he sat Joe to tell him that just because he is the starter at QB that it doesn't mean he won't be taken out for playing bad. He was taken out to get the message across that he better start working harder and do better at practice, and the coaches won't hesitate to bench him. The person they put in, a junior, had a great week of practice and got the nod to be the backup over last weeks backup against North Mesquite, so they decided to see what he could do there. Had he driven the team downfield and scored, great, had he not, oh well. His interception he threw was caught, but our wide reciever DeAndre just didn't hold on to it and that #4 guy stripped it right out of his hands. I agree the coaches should have done more to win the game since it seems like they gave up, but I don't think the coaches thought we deserved to win the game since we played so bad offensively so they put it at that.

[lonny23]

Ahh, just relishing the loss. I hate losing, especially in the manner we have lost the past 2 games. It sucks having a team score 2 touchdowns in a matter of 15 seconds and having the game escape from you. It's tough to deal with so it took me a while to get over it.

I'm pretty sure he sat Joe to tell him that just because he is the starter at QB that it doesn't mean he won't be taken out for playing bad. He was taken out to get the message across that he better start working harder and do better at practice, and the coaches won't hesitate to bench him. The person they put in, a junior, had a great week of practice and got the nod to be the backup over last weeks backup against North Mesquite, so they decided to see what he could do there. Had he driven the team downfield and scored, great, had he not, oh well. His interception he threw was caught, but our wide reciever DeAndre just didn't hold on to it and that #4 guy stripped it right out of his hands. I agree the coaches should have done more to win the game since it seems like they gave up, but I don't think the coaches thought we deserved to win the game since we played so bad offensively so they put it at that.
Your coaches needed to do everything they could do for you guys to win the game. You could use the confidence because you don't have a cakewalk district. You have some tough battles ahead and quitting isn't an option.

[CoppellCowboy57]

We didnt have a cake walk non-district either, how can you count us out already, punk...jk...

[lonny23]

We didnt have a cake walk non-district either, how can you count us out already, punk...jk...
I counted you out because you showed in non-district that you're not going to make a deep playoff run. Run the table and you're back in my good graces. Beating Trinity will go a long ways toward changing my mind.

Contrary to what you think, playing a tough non-district slate makes it easy to say yes or no to teams. We get to see early in the year what you're capable of doing. That's why some teams that you are better than have not been eliminated yet. They haven't played anybody and it doesn't mean I think they're better just because they haven't been eliminated. You guys should've stayed within 30 of SLC if you didn't want me to knock you into the won't make a deep run category. One bad game does not put you on the wrong list, but games like last week seal the deal. Sometimes a win seals the deal, too. There are 3-0 teams out there right now that I don't have faith in.

[bhs06]

Your coaches needed to do everything they could do for you guys to win the game. You could use the confidence because you don't have a cakewalk district. You have some tough battles ahead and quitting isn't an option.

I was pretty confused. We had the ball, down 27-14, with about 2:15 left in the game, and 3 timeouts left. We could have scored a quick TD then onside kicked or something. Instead, we just ran our set with two tight ends and 2 running backs and just ran the clock out, and finally threw a pass late in that drive that was intercepted. But by that time there was about 40 seconds left so it didn't matter.

[TrueBlue]

Hey BHS06, your enthusiasm is admirable -- your information on this board is developing a history of being on the questionable side -- I was at the Bell/FM game -- the pass that was taken out of #1's hands (English) was the pass that Mauro threw toward the close of the game -- the one series that the back up was in during the 4th qtr -- that interception was because the ball was underthrown by 5 yards -- I was sitting right there on the FM side and saw the play --

I also don't ever think it is a good idea to get on a message board and criticize your teammates -- or to openly question your quarterback's practice and work habits -- I am sure that some of your teammates read this board and probably know who you are --

[bhs06]

Hey BHS06, your enthusiasm is admirable -- your information on this board is developing a history of being on the questionable side -- I was at the Bell/FM game -- the pass that was taken out of #1's hands (English) was the pass that Mauro threw toward the close of the game -- the one series that the back up was in during the 4th qtr -- that interception was because the ball was underthrown by 5 yards -- I was sitting right there on the FM side and saw the play --

I also don't ever think it is a good idea to get on a message board and criticize your teammates -- or to openly question your quarterback's practice and work habits -- I am sure that some of your teammates read this board and probably know who you are --

I got the plays confused, they were the same exact play to the same exact person in the same exact area. My bad..

I wasn't really criticizing him, even he knew he played a bad game and he was very down on himself Friday after the game and on the bus ride home. But I know him and I know he can regroup and come up with a big showing Friday night against IMac. After thinking about it, I'm guessing the real reason they put the back up in was because he worked hard at practice this week to get the nod to suit up for varsity, and since we were down 27-7 anyway, they thought it was the best time to put him in and give him a shot to see what he could do and give Joe a break. When Joe came back in, he did lead the team to a score. Like I said, the game at that point wasn't over.

[lonny23]

I'm not liking this thread.

Non-district showings, while not completely useless, still can't be viewed the same as a district game.

Our coaches experimented a bit in all 3 of our non-district games, because its not the end of the world if you lose the games. Might as well snap out of all the "turn the ball over in your own red zone twice in a matter of 15 seconds" out of your system in non-district rather than in district where it counts.

With this being said, even though we have had piss poor offensive efforts the past two games, does that change my opinion about how I think we will do in non-district? No. I still believe we are going to go 7-0 in district and go to the playoffs. In order to do so, you have to believe. Call me crazy but until you can predict the future my opinion is going to have to be resepcted. Our defense has turned in 2 outstanding games the past two games, if our offense can play as well as the defense has we will do something.

Since you said 7-0 in district, I have to ask a question. Your scores so far do not indicate you will make the playoffs, but it can happen. What did the team learn in the last 3 games that will propel you to a playoff berth in a very tough district?

[lonny23]

I've updated after 22 Sep 05 games.

San Antonio Highlands and Holmes were eliminated. Mesquite Horn got off the schnide. 136 are OUT and 108 are IN.

MacArthur and Rockwall are on watch. Teams will start to be eliminated as it looks like they'll miss the playoffs. Lakeview needs more wins to get on the IN side.

[lonny23]

This is my update after 23-24 Sep 05 games.

I left some teams in who took their 1st loss of the year and was pretty gentle this weekend. Now that we're in district, some of the pretenders have started to show their face, but I'll let them stay for another week.

Back IN:

Odessa Permian
San Benito

OUT

North Mesquite
Austin Akins
A Bowie
San Antonio Highlands
Laredo United

[lonny23]

Update time for those that played on 26 Sep 05.

OUT
Austin Crockett
Cedar Park
Round Rock


There are a few more that are close to being out.

103 IN
141 OUT

[lonny23]

OK, my favorite part of the week. You know the routine. After 29 Sep 05:

OUT
Clute Brazoswood
LaPorte
Deer Park

100 IN
144 OUT

[lonny23]

This is best I can do after 1 OCT 05. It seems like everybody's scores have gone to CRAP! We have almost whole regions that don't get reported, reliable sites that can't get scores, and scores from the wrong week! :mad:

There are a few teams that are definitely close to being out, but I decided to give them ONE more chance. Hey, a few could join us again, but not this week.

OUT

Irving Nimitz
Round Rock McNeil
Cypress Falls
Langham Creek
Fort Bend Elkins
Seguin (Sorry Matadors!)
San Antonio Holmes
SA Marshall

I'm sure some of 28-32 would've been out, but I don't have scores.

We have:

92 IN
152 OUT

[lonny23]

We're down to 92 teams and would be a little lower without the missing scores and the hurricane, but one thing is clear to me right now. Most of the trash was kicked out in the first cut and it's real close and back and forth for a lot of the remaining teams. There will be cuts every week, but I don't know if we'll get huge cuts. We'll probably have a nice respectable low number after 5 more weeks, though.

I know I'm having a lot of fun with this, though. :D It's made me pay a LOT more attention to the teams in 5A.

[mad_fan]

FYI, I know you can exercise your right to add a team back so watch San Angelo Central for a couple of weeks, just got their starting QB and main WR back following injuries. They had first win this week against Big Spring. This is a big rivalry game. District starts next week.

[badger95]

I think you can count Cedar Park back in and count Austin Bowie, and McNeil out, from Central TX.

[lonny23]

FYI, I know you can exercise your right to add a team back so watch San Angelo Central for a couple of weeks, just got their starting QB and main WR back following injuries. They had first win this week against Big Spring. This is a big rivalry game. District starts next week.
Big Spring doesn't do anything for me and 5A teams. Odessa beats them every year. I'll watch SA Central, but they'll need to beat Amarillo and Monterey.

[lonny23]

I think you can count Cedar Park back in and count Austin Bowie, and McNeil out, from Central TX.
McNeil and Bowie are out, but I haven't put Cedar Park back in yet. I just don't see yet where the district is real strong and it not being a case of a lack of overall team strength.

[lonny23]

OCT 4 05 update:

OUT
Spring

IN 91
OUT 153

[dragonfootballfan]

How is Haltom in and Grapevine out when Grapevine beat them in district. That basically assures them of having three losses in district and will probably not make the playoffs

[lonny23]

How is Haltom in and Grapevine out when Grapevine beat them in district. That basically assures them of having three losses in district and will probably not make the playoffs
Haltom has 1 loss and that might be a bad game for them. Grapevine has shown they won't get it done against better teams. I agree that Haltom probably has 2 more losses coming in district, but I can't pick based upon what I think will happen. I have to go with past results. If SLC blows Haltom out of the water, I might knock them out. Grapevine can get back in with big wins. Haltom deserves the chance to play their way in or out, not have me arbitrarily eliminate them.

I could've sat here a few weeks ago and said these are the teams I think stand a chance to do playoff damage, but I wanted to take a good look. As we get closer to the end of the year, where teams stand in district will start to move them in and out. I don't want to jump the gun and knock teams out with just 1 bad game in most cases.

[clemensbuff]

This is best I can do after 1 OCT 05. It seems like everybody's scores have gone to CRAP! We have almost whole regions that don't get reported, reliable sites that can't get scores, and scores from the wrong week! :mad:

There are a few teams that are definitely close to being out, but I decided to give them ONE more chance. Hey, a few could join us again, but not this week.

OUT

Irving Nimitz
Round Rock McNeil
Cypress Falls
Langham Creek
Fort Bend Elkins
Seguin (Sorry Matadors!)
San Antonio Holmes
SA Marshall

I'm sure some of 28-32 would've been out, but I don't have scores.

We have:

92 IN
152 OUT

Lonny, are you saying these teams are out of the playoff hunt or out of the hunt for a state title this year?

[lonny23]

Lonny, are you saying these teams are out of the playoff hunt or out of the hunt for a state title this year?
I say they're out of the hunt for a state title or a serious run in a game against a top team. They won't come within 20 points of a great team. Some will make the playoffs and they'll win games, but not be a serious threat.

[lonny23]

Oh, boy! Oh, boy! This is a good week! :D

After 7 OCT 05 we can eliminate 33 more teams and some of them may surprise you.

OUT
Lubbock Monterey
Odessa Permian
Denton Ryan
Col Heritage
FW Haltom
Irving
Allen
Plano West
FM Marcus
Rich Berkner
Garland Sachse
Mesquite
Tyler Lee!!!
Belton
A&M Consolidated
Klein Forest
Klein
Tomball
Aldine Nimitz
Hou Stratford
Katy Taylor
FB Kempner
Pas Sam Rayburn
Pas Memorial
Pas Dobie
Pas South Houston
Clear Lake
SA Churchill
SA Warren
McAllen Memorial
PSJA North
Weslaco
B Rivera

[badger95]

How do you eliminate A&M Cons.? They won!

[RyanOline]

Your list makes no sense.

[RidgePride]

Your list makes no sense.
I agree

-Not even close to accurate-

[lonny23]

How do you eliminate A&M Cons.? They won!
They aren't winning by enough points. I'm forecasting ahead and they won't stay close to Cove.

[lonny23]

I agree

-Not even close to accurate-
I just wanted to let you know that almost every team I eliminate goes on to lose the next week and justify me eliminating them. You'll see why I put out Denton Ryan when SLC gets done with them. This is not a non-playoff list and some of the eliminated teams will win games, but the eliminated teams will not contend for a title. There are still more teams to be eliminated and those that are left are not all better than some of the teams who have been eliminated.

Instead of just bashing my list, why don't you tell me why I'm wrong.

[RyanOline]

For some reason, I have a feeling that arguing why your list is wrong is meaningless. Whats the point in arguing with someone who already has their mind made up and is not willing to change it. I will just repeat my comment of "I dont agree but its your opinion."

[lonny23]

For some reason, I have a feeling that arguing why your list is wrong is meaningless. Whats the point in arguing with someone who already has their mind made up and is not willing to change it. I will just repeat my comment of "I dont agree but its your opinion."
Is it about Ryan or also other teams? I'm more than willing to listen to why Ryan is better than I think. So far, it looks like you're not winning by enough points and that spells trouble to me against SLC. You don't look to be as good as you were last year.

[RyanOline]

You're right. We havent shown we can compete with great teams yet. I do agree with you on that. We need to execute better. The good thing is we have the coaching and ability to be great. We have to focus on the little things such as blocking techniques, executing fakes, etc. If we can get these down we will be a competitor. But I do agree with your point of us not showing that we can compete with great teams.

[Lobo9498]

THIS IS THE UPDATE AFTER 7 OCT 05 GAMES.

In the spirit of Tony Bruno, thanks for participating in the 2005 season. Turn in your jock straps at the door (Playoff success is non-existent or limited). Some teams stay because they haven't shown that they won't win yet, but I expect them to falter. This is after most of the Week 6 games:

REGION 1 OUT (48)
El Paso Americas
EP Bel Air
EP Coronado
EP Eastwood
EP Franklin
EP Hanks
EP Montwood
EP Socorro

A Tascosa
Lubbock
L Coronado
L Monterey
San Angelo Central

Abilene Cooper
Midland Lee
Odessa
O Permian

Burleson
Fort Worth Boswell
FW Paschal
Granbury
Mansfield
Weatherford

Colleyville Heritage
Denton Ryan
FW Haltom
Grapevine
Keller
K Fossil Ridge
North Richland Hills Richland

Coppell
Grand Prairie
Hurst Bell
Irving
I Nimitz

Arlington Bowie
A Houston
A Lamar
A Martin
Cedar Hill
DeSoto
Duncanville

Allen
Flower Mound Marcus
Lewisville
Plano East
P West
The Colony

REGION 2 OUT (48)
Dallas Bryan Adams
D Molina
D Samuell
D Skyline
D Sunset
D White

Carrollton Creekview
C Newman Smith
C Turner
Dallas Jesuit
Richardson
R Berkner
R Lake Highlands
R Pearce

G Lakeview Centennial
G Naaman Forest
G Sachse
North Garland
South Garland

Mesquite
M Horn
North Mesquite
TYLER LEE!!!

A&M Consolidated
Belton
Bryan
Killeen Harker Heights
K Shoemaker
Temple
Waco

Conroe
C Oak Ridge
Huntsville
Klein
K Collins
K Forest

Cedar Park
Georgetown
Round Rock
RR McNeil
RR Stony Point
RR Westwood

A High
A Akins
A Anderson
A Bowie
A Crockett
Bastrop

REGION 3 OUT (52)
Cypress Falls
C Ridge
C Springs
Jersey Village
Langham Creek
Magnolia
Tomball

Aldine
A Eisenhower
A Nimitz
Houston MacArthur
H Memorial
H Northbrook
H Spring Woods
H Stratford

Alief Elsik
A Hastings
A Taylor
Katy Cinco Ranch
K Mayde Creek
K Taylor

Fort Bend Austin
FB Bush
FB Clements
FB Dulles
FB Elkins
FB Hightower
FB Kempner
FB Willowridge

Houston Bellaire
H Austin
H Chavez
H Milby
H Sam Houston
H Westside

Baytown Lee
B Sterling
Humble Kingwood
Port Arthur Memorial
Spring

Deer Park
La Porte
Pasadena
P Dobie
P Memorial
P Sam Rayburn
P South Houston

Alvin
Clear Brook
C Creek
C Lake
Clute Brazoswood

REGION 4 OUT (40)
San Antonio East Central
SA Highlands
SA Jefferson
SA Southwest
Seguin

San Antonio Churchill
SA Lee

Del Rio
San Antonio Holmes
SA Marshall
SA Taft
SA Warren

Corpus Christi King
CC Miller
CC Moody
CC Ray
Victoria Memorial

Eagle Pass
Laredo Alexander
L Cigarroa
L Johnson
L Martin
L Nixon
L United
L United South (Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!)

LaJoya
McAllen
M Memorial
M Rowe
Mission Sharyland
Rio Grande City

Donna
Edinburg
E Economedes
E North
PSJA North
Weslaco

Brownsville Hanna
B Porter
B Rivera

My next email will be the rest of my Week 6 cut. I reserve the right to take a team back, though. We have 188 teams OUT and 56 IN.

All the teams still in:

REGION 1 IN (12)
Amarillo
Abilene
Midland
Mansfield Summit
North Crowley
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
I MacArthur
S Grand Prairie
Arlington
Flower Mound
Plano

REGION 2 IN (13)
Dallas Carter
Garland
G Rowlett
Longview
Rockwall
Tyler John Tyler
Copperas Cove
Lufkin
The Woodlands
Leander
Pflugerville
Austin Westlake
Buda Hays

REGION 3 IN (13)
Cypress Creek
Cy-Fair
H Strake Jesuit
Katy
FB Marshall
Houston Lamar
H Madison
Beaumont West Brook
Humble
Spring Westfield
Galena Park North Shore
Galveston Ball
Pearland

REGION 4 IN (18)
San Marcos
Schertz Clemens
Converse Judson
SA MacArthur
SA Madison
SA Reagan
SA Roosevelt
Smithson Valley
San Antonio Clark
SA Jay
SA O'Connor
Corpus Christi Carroll
Pharr-San Juan-Alamo
Brownsville Pace
Harlingen
H South
Los Fresnos
San Benito

For Region 2, out of 12-5A, the third spot is still up in the air for our district. We have Rockwall, Horn, and Mesquite that could STILL get in. Longview and TJT will more than likely make it. Longview is all but a lock as of right now. John Tyler should get in without a problem. The third spot won't be decided just yet.

[lonny23]

For Region 2, out of 12-5A, the third spot is still up in the air for our district. We have Rockwall, Horn, and Mesquite that could STILL get in. Longview and TJT will more than likely make it. Longview is all but a lock as of right now. John Tyler should get in without a problem. The third spot won't be decided just yet.
I didn't knock Rockwall out yet, but will probably after the Longview game. Right now the only thing that matters is how everybody plays against Longview. If you don't come close to beating Longview, you get sent to the cleaners. Deep playoff runs are hard to come by and you can't get blown out by the good teams.

[lonny23]

I would like to thank the University of Oklahoma for participating in the 2005 season. Wait, this is the wrong forum! :D

[LP-79]

I would like to thank the University of Oklahoma for participating in the 2005 season. Wait, this is the wrong forum! :D

Burnt Orange looked decent today. Still don't think they should be #2 in polls, but that is just my opinion. On to your list.... agree with most of it. The only thing you are not taking into account is when a team gets HOT in the playoffs. Every year you have 1 or 2 teams that had a horrible year in district and just squeaked into playoffs. They get hot and make very deep playoff runs. I realize you can't know at this time who the teams will be, but you can make some intelligent guesses. Heck As much as you watch the stats I bet you could name 1 right now! LOL On to the Lufkin Panthers. There defense is very very good. On offense they are unstoppable while passing. The only problem I have noticed is the offensive line is still holding to much on running plays. To me that means the are getting beat by the defensive lines. Sad to say but the only real test we have had so far this year was against Nacogdoches ( very much improved ) Last night was over before it even got started. The next 3 weeks will be a big test for them.

[RidgePride]

I just wanted to let you know that almost every team I eliminate goes on to lose the next week and justify me eliminating them. You'll see why I put out Denton Ryan when SLC gets done with them. This is not a non-playoff list and some of the eliminated teams will win games, but the eliminated teams will not contend for a title. There are still more teams to be eliminated and those that are left are not all better than some of the teams who have been eliminated.

Instead of just bashing my list, why don't you tell me why I'm wrong.


Ok I thought it was an elimination from the playoffs.
I did not bash your list. I just didn't think it was accurate at first - nothing personal.
Now that I know it is an elimination for title contention, I retract my previous statement.

[DragonFan]

After witnessing the complete and total destruction of Haltom by SLC and seeing that Colleyville Heritage loss, then I will have to say that SLC, Denton Ryan, and then Grapevine are in the playoffs which would mean an early exit of the playoffs to either Euless Trinity or SLC! They would have to meet in the first round and one of them would go home!

[lonny23]

Burnt Orange looked decent today. Still don't think they should be #2 in polls, but that is just my opinion. On to your list.... agree with most of it. The only thing you are not taking into account is when a team gets HOT in the playoffs. Every year you have 1 or 2 teams that had a horrible year in district and just squeaked into playoffs. They get hot and make very deep playoff runs. I realize you can't know at this time who the teams will be, but you can make some intelligent guesses. Heck As much as you watch the stats I bet you could name 1 right now! LOL On to the Lufkin Panthers. There defense is very very good. On offense they are unstoppable while passing. The only problem I have noticed is the offensive line is still holding to much on running plays. To me that means the are getting beat by the defensive lines. Sad to say but the only real test we have had so far this year was against Nacogdoches ( very much improved ) Last night was over before it even got started. The next 3 weeks will be a big test for them.
Well, we're down to 56 teams and more need to be cut and some of those left are surprises. I think your surprise team comes out of the 56 left. I only eliminate teams after I feel confident they won't pull a shocker.

[DragonFan]

Who would you eliminate if it becomes apparent that SLC and Euless Trinity will be playing in the first round? And do not just say the loser! What are your predictions for that game?

[lonny23]

Who would you eliminate if it becomes apparent that SLC and Euless Trinity will be playing in the first round? And do not just say the loser! What are your predictions for that game?
In that game, I'd pick Trinity but I'm not going to eliminate either team because they both stand a chance to beat each other. I don't know that I'll run the list in the playoffs. I might stop after Game 10 and leave that as the teams who can make noise against top-flight competition. I could give a rip if a team wins 3 games against inferior competition.

[sendero]

Lonny,

Curious to why you haven't eliminated SA Macarthur? They have two district losses with Judson, Madison, Roosevelt, & Churchill to play.

[lonny23]

Lonny,

Curious to why you haven't eliminated SA Macarthur? They have two district losses with Judson, Madison, Roosevelt, & Churchill to play.
Because they are potentially good enough to beat all those teams. The balance of 26-5A means you have to get to 3 district losses to be eliminated. I can't eliminate MacArthur or Roosevelt because they played hard against 2 teams in the top 11 in the power rankings. That means a lot. It means with a little luck, they could win a big playoff game.

The teams I eliminate either have losing records, have shown a couple times they won't come close to beating a top team, or they get totally humiliated by a top team. I also look to see if a team is winning by enough points and if they aren't getting better, they're gone.

[lonny23]

Nothing new for 8 OCT 05 update.

56 IN
188 OUT

[lonny23]

How about FB Clements? See, I put them out for a reason BEFORE they got beat by 3 TD's! K Taylor won, but they still deserve to be OUT.

[DragonFan]

In that game, I'd pick Trinity


Lonny is still looking for anybody but SLC! :D

[lonny23]

Lonny is still looking for anybody but SLC! :D
Hey, he asked a question. I don't look for somebody to beat them.

[lonny23]

Oh, boy! Oh, boy! This is a good week! :D

After SEP 7 05 we can eliminate 33 more teams and some of them may surprise you.

OUT
Lubbock Monterey
Odessa Permian
Denton Ryan
Col Heritage
FW Haltom
Irving
Allen
Plano West
FM Marcus
Rich Berkner
Garland Sachse
Mesquite
Tyler Lee!!!
Belton
A&M Consolidated
Klein Forest
Klein
Tomball
Aldine Nimitz
Hou Stratford
Katy Taylor
FB Kempner
Pas Sam Rayburn
Pas Memorial
Pas Dobie
Pas South Houston
Clear Lake
SA Churchill
SA Warren
McAllen Memorial
PSJA North
Weslaco
B Rivera
I love it when I eliminate a team and they lose the next game! Dobie beat Pasadena Memorial 24-14 and I had a previously undefeated team eliminated BEFORE they lost! :D

Since it keeps happening, I might start randomly eliminating teams! ;)

[mad_fan]

I love it when I eliminate a team and they lose the next game! Dobie beat Pasadena Memorial 24-14 and I had a previously undefeated team eliminated BEFORE they lost! :D

Since it keeps happening, I might start randomly eliminating teams! ;)


Gee, I wonder who will go from the 26-5 next week.........

[lonny23]

Gee, I wonder who will go from the 26-5 next week.........
The loser of the Roosevelt and MacArthur game and probably Reagan. I didn't cut anybody from 26-5A last week. If Madison loses to Lee, they out for this year and NEXT year! :p

[lonny23]

I know some people are wondering why I don't eliminate some teams, but I don't want to cut this thread off. I like being careful who I eliminate and each team gets a review every week.

Everybody gets their day in court and is provided a fair trial.

There's still 4 weeks to get below the 56 teams and we don't even know who the 96 playoff teams will be right now. More teams will be eliminated this week.

[lonny23]

For the record, we're down to 41 teams. I fired 17 and hired 2 back.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

22-5A is a two zone district now. PAM will makes the playoffs now, we have the easiest late district schedule.

[lonny23]

22-5A is a two zone district now. PAM will makes the playoffs now, we have the easiest late district schedule.
You're still FIRED! :D I have a lot of fired teams that will make the playoffs.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

You're still FIRED! :D I have a lot of fired teams that will make the playoffs.
How's K-Stan?

[lonny23]

How's K-Stan?
It should be the best deployment out there, but the Wing CC has too many rules and people don't like it. I have 3 months left.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

It should be the best deployment out there, but the Wing CC has too many rules and people don't like it. I have 3 months left.Qatar is buddy. I want to go back ASAP! :D

[mad_fan]

The loser of the Roosevelt and MacArthur game and probably Reagan. I didn't cut anybody from 26-5A last week. If Madison loses to Lee, they out for this year and NEXT year! :p


I thought you were cutting teams...now you're back up to seven in the 26? Make a call...Madison didn't cover the points on Lee... :D

[lonny23]

I thought you were cutting teams...now you're back up to seven in the 26? Make a call...Madison didn't cover the points on Lee... :D
How can I make any cuts? We have 5 teams at 2-2, one at 3-1, and one at 4-0. Other years have had blowouts, but not this year. Believe me, I'd like to fire some teams. If everybody has a chance to beat SV and Judson, that means all of them have a chance to go to the semis. I will have to fire the teams that can't make the playoffs.

[GoOwls]

Lonny, you cut my Owls out? Most polls have them in the top 20 in the state, and with a tough D, anything can happen in the playoffs.

Also, are you telling me that 8 San Antonio schools have a better chance of playoff success than the Owls do? Has that foreign food got to your brain? Only 6 of them have a chance of even making the playoffs, and you know some of them have no chance of success even if they make it. I hate to say it, but your poll is stinking more and more of homerism as the weeks go by.

[lonny23]

Lonny, you cut my Owls out? Most polls have them in the top 20 in the state, and with a tough D, anything can happen in the playoffs.

Also, are you telling me that 8 San Antonio schools have a better chance of playoff success than the Owls do? Has that foreign food got to your brain? Only 6 of them have a chance of even making the playoffs, and you know some of them have no chance of success even if they make it. I hate to say it, but your poll is stinking more and more of homerism as the weeks go by.
It's real simple if you look at it. The best teams in Region 4 do not look to be as strong as the best teams in the other regions. That's going to leave more teams in the running. I left teams in the rankings that stand a good chance to get to the semifinals. Somebody in D1 and D2 has to do it in each region. It's too hard to call the 26-5A teams right now and the same goes for the top teams in 27-5A. It's not homerism, because I'll probably fire some teams this week.

Anyway, I can't fire everybody at the same time. I have to have teams to fire each week. If any of the 26-5A teams besides Lee were getting blown out, I could eliminate them, but that's not happening.

[GoOwls]

I understand what you are saying, but I thought "playoff success" was the satandard, not whether you make the playoffs or not. That's why I'm fussin' about my guys being left out and 8 schools, only of which 2 or so have a real chance of "playoff success" are left in. I do not count playing border schools as "playoff success". No offense intended, it's just a fact.

[lonny23]

I understand what you are saying, but I thought "playoff success" was the satandard, not whether you make the playoffs or not. That's why I'm fussin' about my guys being left out and 8 schools, only of which 2 or so have a real chance of "playoff success" are left in. I do not count playing border schools as "playoff success". No offense intended, it's just a fact.
16 teams will make the quarterfinals. I'm looking for those 16 teams. Some of the 16 will be worse than your Owls.

[GoOwls]

Gotcha!!!! Same page now.

[lonny23]

It's time for more cuts. I might get a few dirty looks this week. OUT:

Midland
Mansfield Summit
South Grande Prairie
Rockwall
Copperas Cove
Leander
Hays Consolidated
Houston Strake Jesuit
Ft. Bend Marshall
Houston Madison
Beaumont West Brook
Humble
Galveston Ball
Pearland
San Marcos
Converse Judson
SA MacArthur
SA Reagan
SA Roosevelt
SA Clark
SA Jay
SA Marshall
SA O'Connor

That means OUT 226 teams
IN 18 teams

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

It's time for more cuts. I might get a few dirty looks this week. OUT:

Midland
Mansfield Summit
South Grande Prairie
Rockwall
Copperas Cove
Leander
Hays Consolidated
Houston Strake Jesuit
Ft. Bend Marshall
Houston Madison
Beaumont West Brook
Humble
Galveston Ball
Pearland
San Marcos
Converse Judson
SA MacArthur
SA Reagan
SA Roosevelt
SA Clark
SA Jay
SA Marshall
SA O'Connor

That means OUT 226 teams
IN 18 teams
Humble will make the playoffs.

[lonny23]

Humble will make the playoffs.
This isn't who will make the playoffs. It's who can contend for a title, maybe get to a semifinal and stuff like that. The teams I cut this week are decent teams, but they're not title-worthy.

[mhsfan]

Maybe you should reconsider Midland. Their only district loss (so far) was to Abilene. They only lost by 11 points, thanks to 2 interceptions and a blocked field goal. Abilene high only scored 3 points in the whole second half (and the left all the starters in through the last play of the game). Just some thoughts.

[lonny23]

Maybe you should reconsider Midland. Their only district loss (so far) was to Abilene. They only lost by 11 points, thanks to 2 interceptions and a blocked field goal. Abilene high only scored 3 points in the whole second half (and the left all the starters in through the last play of the game). Just some thoughts.
I didn't want to fire them, but they've struggled in a few other games. I think they get as far as playing Plano in Round 3 before they get beat.

[Oiler99]

Just curius to why fire pearland since they havnt lossed and the test agianst ball came after 3 games in 8 days and ball had a full weeks rest thanx to a bye. Wait til they fail a test to kick them out but i will say it would be a longshot for any team in the state to win the championship with their playoff schedule with North Shore and Westfield in the first 2 rounds assumin they win.

[lonny23]

Just curius to why fire pearland since they havnt lossed and the test agianst ball came after 3 games in 8 days and ball had a full weeks rest thanx to a bye. Wait til they fail a test to kick them out but i will say it would be a longshot for any team in the state to win the championship with their playoff schedule with North Shore and Westfield in the first 2 rounds assumin they win.
They're fired because they don't look to be on the same planet as North Shore. They are good enough to pull an upset, but I don't see it happening.

[Oiler99]

if they are capable of pulling of an upset dont you think they should still stay on. But i wud agree that not many teams are on the same planet of north shore and the fact pearlands never beaten north shore but never lossed by more than 20 and two of the were less than ten includin the battle last yr.

Well Just wait and see because anything can happen under friday night lights

[lonny23]

THIS IS THE UPDATE AFTER 22 OCT 05 GAMES.

In the spirit of Tony Bruno, thanks for participating in the 2005 season. Turn in your jock straps at the door (Playoff success is non-existent or limited). Some teams stay because they haven't shown that they won't win yet, but I expect them to falter. This is after Week 8 games:

REGION 1 OUT (56)
El Paso Americas
EP Bel Air
EP Coronado
EP Eastwood
EP Franklin
EP Hanks
EP Montwood
EP Socorro

Amarillo
A Tascosa
Lubbock
L Coronado
L Monterey
San Angelo Central

Abilene Cooper
Midland
M Lee
Odessa
O Permian

Burleson
Fort Worth Boswell
FW Paschal
Granbury
Mansfield
M Summit
North Crowley
Weatherford

Colleyville Heritage
Denton Ryan
FW Haltom
Grapevine
Keller
K Fossil Ridge
North Richland Hills Richland

Coppell
Grand Prairie
Hurst Bell
Irving
I MacArthur
I Nimitz
SGP

Arlington
A Bowie
A Houston
A Lamar
A Martin
Cedar Hill
DeSoto
Duncanville

Allen
Flower Mound
FM Marcus
Lewisville
Plano East
P West
The Colony

REGION 2 OUT (55)
Dallas Bryan Adams
D Molina
D Samuell
D Skyline
D Sunset
D White

Carrollton Creekview
C Newman Smith
C Turner
Dallas Jesuit
Richardson
R Berkner
R Lake Highlands
R Pearce

Garland
G Lakeview Centennial
G Naaman Forest
G Rowlett
G Sachse
North Garland
South Garland

Mesquite
M Horn
North Mesquite
Rockwall
Tyler John Tyler
T Lee

A&M Consolidated
Belton
Bryan
Copperas Cove
Killeen Harker Heights
K Shoemaker
Temple
Waco

Conroe
C Oak Ridge
Huntsville
Klein
K Collins
K Forest

Cedar Park
Georgetown
Leander
Round Rock
RR McNeil
RR Stony Point
RR Westwood

A High
A Akins
A Anderson
A Bowie
A Crockett
Bastrop
Hays Consolidated

REGION 3 OUT (61)
Cypress Creek
Cy Falls
Cy Fair
Cy Ridge
Cy Springs
Jersey Village
Langham Creek
Magnolia
Tomball

Aldine
A Eisenhower
A Nimitz
Houston MacArthur
H Memorial
H Northbrook
H Spring Woods
H Stratford

Alief Elsik
A Hastings
A Taylor
Houston Strake Jesuit
Katy Cinco Ranch
K Mayde Creek
K Taylor

Fort Bend Austin
FB Bush
FB Clements
FB Dulles
FB Elkins
FB Hightower
FB Kempner
FB Marshall
FB Willowridge

Houston Bellaire
H Austin
H Chavez
H Madison
H Milby
H Sam Houston
H Westside

Baytown Lee
B Sterling
Beaumont West Brook
Humble
H Kingwood
Port Arthur Memorial
Spring

Deer Park
La Porte
Pasadena
P Dobie
P Memorial
P Sam Rayburn
P South Houston

Alvin
Clear Brook
C Creek
C Lake
Clute Brazoswood
Galveston Ball
Pearland

REGION 4 OUT (54)
San Antonio East Central
SA Highlands
SA Jefferson
SA Southwest
San Marcos
Seguin

Converse Judson
San Antonio Lee
SA MacArthur
SA Reagan
SA Roosevelt

Del Rio
San Antonio Clark
SA Holmes
SA Jay
SA Marshall
SA O'Connor
SA Taft
SA Warren

Corpus Christi Carroll
CC King
CC Miller
CC Moody
CC Ray
Victoria Memorial

Eagle Pass
Laredo Alexander
L Cigarroa
L Johnson
L Martin
L Nixon
L United
L United South (Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!)

LaJoya
McAllen
M Memorial
M Rowe
Mission Sharyland
Rio Grande City

Donna
Edinburg
E Economedes
E North
Pharr San Juan Alamo
PSJA North
Weslaco

Brownsville Hanna
B Pace
B Porter
B Rivera
Harlingen
H South
Los Fresnos
San Benito

My next email will be part of my Week 9 cut. I reserve the right to take a team back, though. We have 226 teams OUT and 18 IN.

All the teams still in:

REGION 1 IN (4)
Abilene
Southlake Carroll
Euless Trinity
Plano

REGION 2 IN (6)
Dallas Carter
Longview
Lufkin
The Woodlands
Pflugerville
Austin Westlake

REGION 3 IN (4)
Katy
Houston Lamar
Spring Westfield
Galena Park North Shore

REGION 4 IN (4)
Schertz Clemens
San Antonio Churchill
SA Madison
Smithson Valley
OK, after Week 8 I had 18 teams left and 6 of those made the semis. I hired Judson back the next week and had 7 of the 8 semifinalists in my Not Fired list to end the year.

[lonny23]

How do you eliminate A&M Cons.? They won!
My worst mistake of the year.

[lonny23]

I agree

-Not even close to accurate-
Oh, I have to disagree on this one. Most of my last 18 teams lost to other teams among the 18.

[lonny23]

They aren't winning by enough points. I'm forecasting ahead and they won't stay close to Cove.
They lost 21-14.

[lonny23]

I would like to thank the University of Oklahoma for participating in the 2005 season. Wait, this is the wrong forum! :D
This one is for you Wide!:D

[lonny23]

Who would you eliminate if it becomes apparent that SLC and Euless Trinity will be playing in the first round? And do not just say the loser! What are your predictions for that game?
Boy, that almost happened.

[lonny23]

In that game, I'd pick Trinity but I'm not going to eliminate either team because they both stand a chance to beat each other. I don't know that I'll run the list in the playoffs. I might stop after Game 10 and leave that as the teams who can make noise against top-flight competition. I could give a rip if a team wins 3 games against inferior competition.
I said Trinity here, but I voted for SLC in the Superbracket.

[lonny23]

It should be the best deployment out there, but the Wing CC has too many rules and people don't like it. I have 3 months left.
I still agree with everything I said there.

[lonny23]

I understand what you are saying, but I thought "playoff success" was the satandard, not whether you make the playoffs or not. That's why I'm fussin' about my guys being left out and 8 schools, only of which 2 or so have a real chance of "playoff success" are left in. I do not count playing border schools as "playoff success". No offense intended, it's just a fact.
It all washed out in the end because I fired the 26-5A teams. I just couldn't do it until I knew who would be in the playoffs.

[lonny23]

I didn't want to fire them, but they've struggled in a few other games. I think they get as far as playing Plano in Round 3 before they get beat.
Yes, sir.