Lufkin Vs. Klein Forest

[poppy]

i'll take klein forest over lufkin 24-10...
kf is really under rated this year...and lufkin is
just a little over rated....
go eagles....swoop down on the pack :(

[kchsfan]

I agree. KF is tough and could win this game BUT, isn't it at Abe?

Don't kid yourself if that isn't a larger advantage to Lufkin than most home fields.

They put half the home seating on the visitors side and they hassle your players all night long. It is a big old stadium up on a hill and a sea of purple. Collins went in there last year for the district championship and played their hearts out but Luke got rabbit ears with some LP fans and admittedly made 3 key mistakes at start of 4th that turned the tide.

If KF keep tise on their side, they could win but once it turns, watch out. We will be rooting for you and good luck.

[LUFPAN]

I'll have to politely disagree that Klein has any chance of beating Lufkin at Abe Martin. I do not feel that this one will even be close. Lufkin by 20.

[Favpack]

Poppy is a Lufkin basher - and has no idea what he's talking about.

But, the game will be closer than last year - I will almost guarantee that. Lufkin will practice hard, hopefully get their bad vibes worked out, but they will play a good KF team that might make the playoffs this year.

I'll reserve my prediction for later - but I see LP getting back to business and KF is not a good road team -- so I do see LP taking it, but with a struggle for DIstrict week 1.

[kchsfan]

Klein Forest is very talented and matches up well and Lufkin better not take them lightly which I doubt they will after playing poorly this week. Coach probably got the game he needed to remotivate them.

I always root for a klein team when we aren't playing them.

[c-lisle]

i'll take klein forest over lufkin 24-10...
kf is really under rated this year...and lufkin is
just a little over rated....
go eagles....swoop down on the pack :(


I agree that LP is little overrated this year but I still don't see them losing until the second or third round in the playoffs. If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure. With a lackluster win against a perrenial 4a pushover one does have to wonder how LP will do against a GOOD 5a team. I'm still pulling for LP though. Good luck to both teams.

[Favpack]

Your prediction to make, but pretty silly at this point Rclisle to start predicting playoff results.

Lufkin had a poor first half, but got a road win against a much improved Nac. team. Mark my words, Nac. will be around in the end for the playoff hunt in their brutal conference. Heck, Kilgore could probably make the playoffs this year in virtually every 5A district there is, except maybe one or two.

Folks here said Lufkin was over-rated all year long last year. We lost on the last play of the game to the eventual state champ in the semi's.

Jive talk all you want - it's mid-September. We'll worry about December in December.

[LPFAN]

I agree that LP is little overrated this year but I still don't see them losing until the second or third round in the playoffs. If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure. With a lackluster win against a perrenial 4a pushover one does have to wonder how LP will do against a GOOD 5a team. I'm still pulling for LP though. Good luck to both teams.
Ladies and gentlemen we have a PROPHET amongst us. You know what, I wish you wouldn't pull for us. You always say you do but manage to put little cheap shots about Lufkin in a lot of your posts. Do not be so arrogant about your team. Yes y'all are good but do not act like it is impossible to be beat. You act like your team is invincible. I have always said that Longview could beat Lufkin this year if they meet but that is not guaranteed. But when you talk you say that we will lose. So when did God anoint you as 5A Football Prophet? Do you not realize that your faith should carry over into every thing you do. I only bring that up since you like to post a scripture in your signature. Are you only the honest, humble little boy on sundays and inside a church building but when you get into the forum you forget about humility and start with your pride and arrogance when you get in here. It is obvious that you thrive on ratings. You love that Longview is rated so high and you can't stand seeing Lufkin right there with your team. You want your team to be the king of east texas and the rest of the state. Guess what? Who cares what your rating is. What matters is if you finish number 1 at the end of the season. I know it is possible that Longview can do it but there is no guarantee that it will happen. I know that ratings don't mean much to our coach so why do you care so much if we are rated higher then where you think we should be. Also, why do you think it is impossible for a team such as Nac to get better and play harder with a new coach. Do you not read your bible? Remember "all things are possible." I guess if it is not Longview then no team can do good in your eyes. You go off of Nac's past so you figure they will be the same team this year. I guess you have never seen teams in High School, College, and the NFL have losing seasons for some time and then in one season turn things around and have a winning season. I guess that just does not happen in your mind unless it is Longview. No one is saying that Nac is a power house team but they are much improved. Don't run your mouth about things you know nothing about. You are really starting to make yourself look like you do not have a clue!!!

[c-lisle]

Ladies and gentlemen we have a PROPHET amongst us. You know what, I wish you wouldn't pull for us. You always say you do but manage to put little cheap shots about Lufkin in a lot of your posts. Do not be so arrogant about your team. Yes y'all are good but do not act like it is impossible to be beat. You act like your team is invincible. I have always said that Longview could beat Lufkin this year if they meet but that is not guaranteed. But when you talk you say that we will lose. So when did God anoint you as 5A Football Prophet? Do you not realize that your faith should carry over into every thing you do. I only bring that up since you like to post a scripture in your signature. Are you only the honest, humble little boy on sundays and inside a church building but when you get into the forum you forget about humility and start with your pride and arrogance when you get in here. It is obvious that you thrive on ratings. You love that Longview is rated so high and you can't stand seeing Lufkin right there with your team. You want your team to be the king of east texas and the rest of the state. Guess what? Who cares what your rating is. What matters is if you finish number 1 at the end of the season. I know it is possible that Longview can do it but there is no guarantee that it will happen. I know that ratings don't mean much to our coach so why do you care so much if we are rated higher then where you think we should be. Also, why do you think it is impossible for a team such as Nac to get better and play harder with a new coach. Do you not read your bible? Remember "all things are possible." I guess if it is not Longview then no team can do good in your eyes. You go off of Nac's past so you figure they will be the same team this year. I guess you have never seen teams in High School, College, and the NFL have losing seasons for some time and then in one season turn things around and have a winning season. I guess that just does not happen in your mind unless it is Longview. No one is saying that Nac is a power house team but they are much improved. Don't run your mouth about things you know nothing about. You are really starting to make yourself look like you do not have a clue!!!

LPFAN - I gave my opinion...sorry you didn't like it. I have nothing to prove to you about my faith...this is the second time you have attacked it. I give my opinion and always try and be respectful and considerate of others. The next thing you are going to attack me for is the use of the word "pushover", I don't use it disrespectfully...only to say they usually aren't a very good team. Lufkin is too young and inexperienced on offense and it showed Friday against Nacogdoches. IMO w/o a good RB LP won't make it too far this year. y'all do have a awesome defense though.

[LPFAN]

LPFAN - I gave my opinion...sorry you didn't like it. I have nothing to prove to you about my faith...this is the second time you have attacked it. I give my opinion and always try and be respectful and considerate of others. The next thing you are going to attack me for is the use of the word "pushover", I don't use it disrespectfully...only to say they usually aren't a very good team. Lufkin is too young and inexperienced on offense and it showed Friday against Nacogdoches. IMO w/o a good RB LP won't make it too far this year. y'all do have a awesome defense though.
That is not an attack on your faith. That is just pointing out what I have noticed. Listen when I give an opinion about something I will say that " I think one team will win" or " I think we can" etc... Notice I use the words "I think." It just amazes me that you can predict the final outcome of a game that might not even happen. Anyway, carry on!!!

[ktchamp97]

The Panthers better bring it this week, or they'll get upended. Klein Forest is a solid team and they are good enough to beat the Pack.

[TheDuke]

THE HEAT IS ON in Ole Abe this weekend Pack Fans!!!!!!!

Don't overlook these kids! They are off on the right foot! Wish I could be there for this one!

[Favpack]

KT - This is just a gut feel, but I do feel most Lufkin players simply thought there is no way Nac will be any good and they were - as hard as that is for many to believe.

I feel confident the coaches will convince the players that KF is much, much better than last year. If LP comes out intense in the first half, you'll see a KF team somewhat overmatched IMO. The outcome I feel will be dictated by Lufkin, but, odd things do happen in football. And, yes, if Lufkin is not ready and not intense, KF could walk out with a win.

However, in this district, I've noticed most other teams travel poorly - saw it all year last year. They bring a handful of fans and the players just look plain scared. It will be a packed, intense house at Abe - and I don't think that will sit will with KF.

Having said that - I'm looking for a good, intense game.

[PackAttack2005]

Rclisle,

I counterpoint with your conclusion on the Lufkin runningback situation. True, we do not have Jorvorskie Lane in the backfield for us this year, we are more a committe of runningbacks this year. Kibble starts for us, but we also have JaCorey Turner, E.J. Shankle and Ralph Thomas who by the way are the top speedsters on the team ( all 4.4 or better) and don't forget Claybon can run from his QB spot if needed. We also may have a couple of more surprises for you later in the year, so don't get your hopes up just yet.

We are averaging more than 150 yard per game rushing and 240 yards passing per game, very balanced for a green offensive group.

Your right we are young and inexperienced now, but by playoff time we will be a veteran group. If we meet again don't be so sure of an automatic Lobo conquest. Now, go put your green underwear in the dryer and get ready for next week.

[rich_pack]

I like the fact that people think Lufkin is not a very good team because Nac played a close game, even though Lufkin won the game on basically every stat in the game, including penalties "which some were stupid calls", turnovers, and basically not playing well. And still win easily in the end, but yet, Lufkin is over-rated. If I remember right, some thought this way last season when we beat all but one team, and that took a set of headphones to get that done, and remember, last year was just a rebuilding season. I hope they take Lufkin off the top 25 in the state, so we can just play some real ball!!!!!

[PackAttack2005]

KTchamp, How do you make such an observation from way out in Midland, Texas. KF has to travel to Lufkin, they don't like that and second , I don't think KF has played any better competition in non-district than Lufkin. All three of their games have been at Klein Memorial, while Lufkin has played 2 of their 3 games on the road. I mean how do you come to that conclusion, when you compare the teams Klein Forest has played in Jersey Village, Cy Springs and Spring (combined 3-7 record) compared to Lufkin playing IKE, PAM and Nacogdoches (combined 2-6 record)teams.

What if PAM upsets Midland Lee today, would that change anything for you?

[ktchamp97]

Dang PackAttack, all I said was that Klein Forest has shown they are a strong team and they have the capability of beating Lufkin. What part of that isn't true? I like Lufkin's team, but they are not invincible. Anybody can get beat...I bet you never thought Nac would challenge your guys either. And being 'way out in Midland' doesn't impede my ability to read box scores and make observations on how teams are playing. We can't possible see every team in the state, so does that make everything we do invalid? I think not. You even showed in your post that Klein Forest has played similar competition and they are undefeated as well. If PAM beats Midland Lee, I don't think it would be an upset either.

[PackAttack2005]

You said one thing right KT, KF better bring their "A" game to Abe Martin if they have any hope to beat Lufkin at home. We repect KF, they have a good program going on down there off I-45.

Never said anything about invincable????????


Nac is much better this year under Coach Harper and all of his old Marshall Maverick staff. It would not surprise me that they beat Marshall and Kilgore this year. Coach Harper and Coach Outlaw have coached against each other for years, so no, I was not surprised at the close game. Lufkin has trouble getting up for them and we never play well in Nacogdoches for some reason. Except for a couple of phantom calls that called back certain touchdowns and several dropped passes, the score should have been 34 or 41 to 7 Lufkin, before Nac scored with less than a minute left on our second team. Harper will definately make Nacogdoches a contender in the coming years.

[c-lisle]

Rclisle,

I counterpoint with your conclusion on the Lufkin runningback situation. True, we do not have Jorvorskie Lane in the backfield for us this year, we are more a committe of runningbacks this year. Kibble starts for us, but we also have JaCorey Turner, E.J. Shankle and Ralph Thomas who by the way are the top speedsters on the team ( all 4.4 or better) and don't forget Claybon can run from his QB spot if needed. We also may have a couple of more surprises for you later in the year, so don't get your hopes up just yet.

We are averaging more than 150 yard per game rushing and 240 yards passing per game, very balanced for a green offensive group.

Your right we are young and inexperienced now, but by playoff time we will be a veteran group. If we meet again don't be so sure of an automatic Lobo conquest. Now, go put your green underwear in the dryer and get ready for next week.

But how will those RBs do when they face a fast, stingy defense. Longview has faced great RBs with good Olines(except WM) in all but one game. WE held ECA to 39 yards rushing. We also kept a very good WM RB to negligible yards rushing. An all this w/o our starting Lbs who are very good players. Our DEs, LBs and Secondary are very fast. I don't think any team will be very successful running the ball against us this year. So what does that leave for LP? Passing. Claybon has alot to learn yet and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview. That's why I have said losing Lane will hurt y'all so much this year..just like losing Luna has hurt SLC. Those RBs may be good...but they aren't good enough IMO.

[Mean Green Machine]

Maybe Purple People Eaters (PPE) were looking ahead to KF?

Klein was suppost to be much improved (2-0) and they lost to Klein Oak 4A last night.

Last year The Woodz was suppost to take care of Klein just like the past 17 seasons in a row. But, a timely fumble and they lose a close game to them.

NOC was ready to play Lufkin last night. Focus....The champion of 145A will be the team with the most focus.

My point is if you don't take your opponent seriously and care of business you will lose. I don't care who you are!

Losing Lane is important becuase he was such a dominant player he took over games...

I think the Panther key this year will be their D.
They have talent, speed and experienced.

Defense wins Championships!

Hopefully, The Woodz has some of that this year...

The other thing I know is Lufkin has tradition and the kids expect to win, no excuses....

KF is good but who have they played?

What tradition? Katy has it. North Shore has it. SLC so on... I know Lufkin has it... The Nation has it?

We'll see. Both teams will be ready when they meet at Abe and it will be a war Friday Night Lights at its best, October 28th at 7PM. The Nation calls out to all Highlanders.

Be there!

Ya Baby!!!

[PackAttack2005]

Our running game will be good enough when it counts. I am not worried. Longview is expected to take it all this year in some circles, the monkey is on your back this year, not ours. You guys have the verteran team, there should be no excuses if you fail to show up late in the playoffs.

[Favpack]

But how will those RBs do when they face a fast, stingy defense. Longview has faced great RBs with good Olines(except WM) in all but one game. WE held ECA to 39 yards rushing. We also kept a very good WM RB to negligible yards rushing. An all this w/o our starting Lbs who are very good players. Our DEs, LBs and Secondary are very fast. I don't think any team will be very successful running the ball against us this year. So what does that leave for LP? Passing. Claybon has alot to learn yet and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview. That's why I have said losing Lane will hurt y'all so much this year..just like losing Luna has hurt SLC. Those RBs may be good...but they aren't good enough IMO.

OK Rclisle -- your prognostications are eventually even wearing on my patience. "Claybon has a lot to learn and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview".

Lighten up man - you're continually making assumptions that everyone is going to fall by the mighty wake of Longview - keep your jawing up, it's serving no purpose. Longview has by no means looked invicible my man. Injuries (no fault of anyone, bad luck) lots of turnovers (Ivory will fumble in the clutch - bank on it) and let me tell you something youngster - I'll take Claybon right now in a heartbeat over Freeman if he's still your qb. Jeremy will be just fine before this season's over - and he'll be very good next year. Freeman has a history of choking in the clutch - remember his terrible pick against LP last year in the 4th.

Every post you make is ONLY saying how great Longview is - and how lousy everyone else is. I've said Longview is the team to beat this year - all year. I'm still saying it, but your not impressing me near as much as you did last year.

Plus your infiltrating every single Lufkin thread with how great Longview is is getting old - put a sock in it.

[LPFAN]

OK Rclisle -- your prognostications are eventually even wearing on my patience. "Claybon has a lot to learn and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview".

Lighten up man - you're continually making assumptions that everyone is going to fall by the mighty wake of Longview - keep your jawing up, it's serving no purpose. Longview has by no means looked invicible my man. Injuries (no fault of anyone, bad luck) lots of turnovers (Ivory will fumble in the clutch - bank on it) and let me tell you something youngster - I'll take Claybon right now in a heartbeat over Freeman if he's still your qb. Jeremy will be just fine before this season's over - and he'll be very good next year. Freeman has a history of choking in the clutch - remember his terrible pick against LP last year in the 4th.

Every post you make is ONLY saying how great Longview is - and how lousy everyone else is. I've said Longview is the team to beat this year - all year. I'm still saying it, but your not impressing me near as much as you did last year.

Plus your infiltrating every single Lufkin thread with how great Longview is is getting old - put a sock in it.
Great post. I was beginning to wonder if anyone else noticed how he creeps into every Lufkin thread and somehow in his own sly way manages to pump up his team and down Lufkin or any of the opponents we play. The way he talks you would think that Longview has already got the State Title in the bag. PLEASE!!!! I think they are the team to beat too but it very well could be another team that beats them before they get to the playoffs or in the early round of the playoffs. NO TEAM IS INVINCIBLE!!! GET REAL!!!

[c-lisle]

NOWHERE have I said Longview is invincible. I can talk about my team and whoever else's team all I want. Last I checked this was a 5a Texas HS football forum and I can give my opinions all I want...sorry if you don't like them. I realize Longview can be beat. So I'll say it again I THINK Longview will go undefeated through district play and then roll through till we get to Lufkin and I think we will beat y'all to. It's an opinion they are a dime a dozen...especially on this forum. If you don't like my opinions then put me on your ignore list if not discuss with me why you don'y like my opinion.

[c-lisle]

OK Rclisle -- your prognostications are eventually even wearing on my patience. "Claybon has a lot to learn and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview".

Lighten up man - you're continually making assumptions that everyone is going to fall by the mighty wake of Longview - keep your jawing up, it's serving no purpose. Longview has by no means looked invicible my man. Injuries (no fault of anyone, bad luck) lots of turnovers (Ivory will fumble in the clutch - bank on it) and let me tell you something youngster - I'll take Claybon right now in a heartbeat over Freeman if he's still your qb. Jeremy will be just fine before this season's over - and he'll be very good next year. Freeman has a history of choking in the clutch - remember his terrible pick against LP last year in the 4th.

Every post you make is ONLY saying how great Longview is - and how lousy everyone else is. I've said Longview is the team to beat this year - all year. I'm still saying it, but your not impressing me near as much as you did last year.

Plus your infiltrating every single Lufkin thread with how great Longview is is getting old - put a sock in it.

I hope we find out if YOUR prognostications are true or not. Everyone knows Ivory(6 or 7 fumbles last year and 4 of them in the game against LP...I'm thinking that's not a coincidence) had a fractured hand and that freeman is a winner. Pound for pound a better QB then Claybon.

[LUFPAN]

Certainly Lufkins offense is young but I'm not sure that I quite understand why I keeping reading posts that they are struggling. They are averaging 37 points a game, pair that up with a defense that's only giving up 11 points per game and I'm not ready to pull the plug on the season just yet. Lots of talk as well about our young quarterback, Jeremy Claybon, struggling. Our young struggling quarterback has 522 yds passing and 5 td during the last two weeks whe he was supposed to be struggling. I think the rumors of the Panther's offensive death are slightly exaggerated. :cool:

[PackAttack2005]

Rclisle, you may not have used the word "invincible" but you have used the word "unstoppable" in many of your post describing your Lobos. Please don't pull a Bill Clinton on us and try and convince us there are two completly separate meanings here.

You even got your feeling hurt this morning when people started giving big props to Euless Trinity for their dominating win over Tyler Lee in Tyler. Some started talking about them maybe being #1 and you came in stating how they could not do that to Longview.

Without question the best team you have played to date is Marshall, everyone else has been an under achiever this year, ECA has nothing this year, they are only a shadow of thier former greatness.

Mesquite may give the Lobos a big wake up to reality this weekend and Tyler Lee is not done either.

[Favpack]

Claybon's stats have been nothing short of eye-popping and he has not even found his rythm yet. We knew his picks would be significant in the learning process - but no dumb plays and the int's were all under-throws - probably a mechanics issue more than anything.

The more others doubt Claybon and the more he throws 98 yard td passes from his own endzone - the more Packsters will bristle and become defensive.

[LPFAN]

NOWHERE have I said Longview is invincible. I can talk about my team and whoever else's team all I want. Last I checked this was a 5a Texas HS football forum and I can give my opinions all I want...sorry if you don't like them. I realize Longview can be beat. So I'll say it again I THINK Longview will go undefeated through district play and then roll through till we get to Lufkin and I think we will beat y'all to. It's an opinion they are a dime a dozen...especially on this forum. If you don't like my opinions then put me on your ignore list if not discuss with me why you don'y like my opinion.
That is where you have flip flopped. You said earlier "If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure." You were meaning that Longview will beat Lufkin if we meet for sure. Now if you were for sure then why are you now saying you THINK Longview will beat Lufkin. Just curious. It is not a crime for you to post your opinions so when you post yours, I post mine. I just know you have a sly way about you and most people with a little discernment can pick that up real easy. All I know is that for the past six years, no matter how great Lufkin was I always felt that your team could have won on any given night. Even if we were ranked much higher then you in the past. I am not trying to say you should have that kind of mindset when it comes to football but I am saying that your way is a bit mind boggling to me. But hey that is just my OPINION. I am entitled to that just like you are.

[PantherStang84]

With a lackluster win against a perrenial 4a pushover one does have to wonder how LP will do against a GOOD 5a team.

Some of my fellow East Texans must have short memories. Our good friends from Longview seem to have forgotten the name Bill Harper. Come on Longview fans you remember him. He used to give your team fits when he was at Marshall.

I would hardly call Nacogdoches a pushover team anymore. Can they beat Kilgore?

I doubt it. However, they will give Kilgore some fits too when they play later this year.

Nac was hungry last night. Hats off to them for being able to hang for 3 quarters. However, football is a 4 quarter game.

Personally, I am glad Coach Harper is making great progress in Nac. I hope they can keep it going.

Yes. Lufkin's QB had a bad night last night. So what? Big deal. It happens.

After all, I seem to remember a FB in green last year fumbled the ball 5 times in a game that counted.

A fluke? Maybe. Maybe not.

I guess some folks just wish that someone else will do their dirty work for them.

Lufkin will be fine.

[c-lisle]

That is where you have flip flopped. You said earlier "If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure." You were meaning that Longview will beat Lufkin if we meet for sure. Now if you were for sure then why are you now saying you THINK Longview will beat Lufkin. Just curious. It is not a crime for you to post your opinions so when you post yours, I post mine. I just know you have a sly way about you and most people with a little discernment can pick that up real easy. All I know is that for the past six years, no matter how great Lufkin was I always felt that your team could have won on any given night. Even if we were ranked much higher then you in the past. I am not trying to say you should have that kind of mindset when it comes to football but I am saying that your way is a bit mindboggling to me. But hey that is just my OPINION. I am entitled to that just like you are.

Exactly and I don't seem ever bashing your opinion(I could be wrong though...I have a selective memory). I did say for sure in the first post and I still think that, I had to revert to I think b/c you said I was arrogant and not humble. I have given my reasons why I think so and I think they are valid and reasonable. what difference does it make if I say we will or I think we will, it is still me opninion. I just hope we get to find out who does win if we meet again.

[c-lisle]

Rclisle, you may not have used the word "invincible" but you have used the word "unstoppable" in many of your post describing your Lobos. Please don't pull a Bill Clinton on us and try and convince us there are two completly separate meanings here.

You even got your feeling hurt this morning when people started giving big props to Euless Trinity for their dominating win over Tyler Lee in Tyler. Some started talking about them maybe being #1 and you came in stating how they could not do that to Longview.

Without question the best team you have played to date is Marshall, everyone else has been an under achiever this year, ECA has nothing this year, they are only a shadow of thier former greatness.

Mesquite may give the Lobos a big wake up to reality this weekend and Tyler Lee is not done either.

I did use the work "unstoppable" and then said in the next post "very difficult to stop". I was called out for useing "unstoppable and then refrained b/c it is a little extreme. If you had been at the WM game you have agreed and that was the purpose of the post.

My feelings weren't hurt, why do you say that? I couldn't find the post and don't really remember what I said. I remember saying they shouldn't be catapulted to #1 just b/c they beat Lee. Do you not agree that Lee is not near as good as they were last year. Sure Mesquite could beat us and anyone else in district for that matter, I just don't think it will happen.

[Texasfrog]

Lufkin vs Klein Forest looks to be a tough game. This could go either way. Probably a slight edge to the Pack because the games at Abe.

[Kingwolf]

Sry Rcisle, man but you do seem to have an unhealthy concentration on Lufkin...LV is good, yes everyone know that...but quit crowning them before we have played one district game....This is one LV fan who knows that we have a LONG way to go before we start talking state, Rclisle. Lets leave it to every other team like Trinity, SV, or all the other ones who are doing the same thing.....WE have a huge game against a very good Mesquite team to worry about...dude just quit talking about Lufkin, wait until we meet them, if we do....please..........

As far as Nac goes, I think the old district foes ie, (Marshall and Nac) have started to find there groove...Good coaches who are using the talent that has always been there...Nac will start to compete, IMO...

As far as this Klein team, I don't know much about them but to say Lufkin is overrated is a joke...Lufkin has a team that is going to amaze a lot of people, offense may be young but they are very potent....Defense is in the top three in the state....

Klein whoever comes in thinking they "suprise" Lufkin will learn a hard lesson at Abe...

[Kingwolf]

BTW, just for the posibble coming attacks, I bleed green like u do....I just think you have to actually beat a team before you can talk them down....

[c-lisle]

Sry Rcisle, man but you do seem to have an unhealthy concentration on Lufkin...LV is good, yes everyone know that...but quit crowning them before we have played one district game....This is one LV fan who knows that we have a LONG way to go before we start talking state, Rclisle. Lets leave it to every other team like Trinity, SV, or all the other ones who are doing the same thing.....WE have a huge game against a very good Mesquite team to worry about...dude just quit talking about Lufkin, wait until we meet them, if we do....please..........

As far as Nac goes, I think the old district foes ie, (Marshall and Nac) have started to find there groove...Good coaches who are using the talent that has always been there...Nac will start to compete, IMO...

As far as this Klein team, I don't know much about them but to say Lufkin is overrated is a joke...Lufkin has a team that is going to amaze a lot of people, offense may be young but they are very potent....Defense is in the top three in the state....

Klein whoever comes in thinking they "suprise" Lufkin will learn a hard lesson at Abe...

King I appreciate your humbleness. I assure you I have tried to avoid Lufkin talk but every time I do one of them makes a smart remark and it gets my blood pumping. I will try and let it go until the playoffs get here. I'm not sure how any Lview fan can keep from talking about it though.

[LPFAN]

King I appreciate your humbleness. I assure you I have tried to avoid Lufkin talk but every time I do one of them makes a smart remark and it gets my blood pumping. I will try and let it go until the playoffs get here. I'm not sure how any Lview fan can keep from talking about it though.
I never saw one smart remark about Longview in this thread. Not one. I may be blind and might have missed one but if I have please let me know. What I did see is this post from you.

"I agree that LP is little overrated this year but I still don't see them losing until the second or third round in the playoffs. If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure. With a lackluster win against a perrenial 4a pushover one does have to wonder how LP will do against a GOOD 5a team. I'm still pulling for LP though. Good luck to both teams.

[VB Pack Fan]

I agree with RC, Lane left a big void in our offense and with the other backs so small, we will suffer when we meet a team with a strong defense. I have stated in many threads that the offense is young, and it shows.Last year Lane won several games on sheer power running, we don,t have that this year.Hopefully Outlaw will try to get our guys ready for the test ahead.So far I have not liked what I have seen on offense. The line has got to give Claybon more time to find his receivers.Shanle has too step up as well, because Dez will most likey see some double coverage on down in the season.We will beat KF, it,s hard to beat us in ABE.

[pack0808]

Some people are really fixated on Lufkin and it is kind of strange? AKA poppy and rclisle. I guess when you are a great team you have haters and that is just part of it. That is fine though you can have your opinions but it seems stalker like at times. LOL I picked KF to be one of the playoff teams this year. I knew they would be much improved last year because they have talent and they had a lot returning. Lufkin mandhanled at KF last year and beat them by about 17 in the playoffs in 2002 when KF was undefeated. I think this game will be a challenge but no way does KF win at Abe in my opinion. Ask any team that has been to Abe if it is not hell to play there. This Lufkin team has plenty of talent trust me. If the offense can become consistent watch out!! They are explosive but not consistent.

[poppy]

nac...lol

[pack0808]

Poppy is a hater!! LOL poor soul!!

[LUFPAN]

Poppy,

Do you in fact actually know anything about Lufkin football? You seem to be sorely misinformed on our team's ability.

[Ladypack34]

I think that no one should call us over-rated until they can send someone our way that we don't beat. Yes, Lufkin is young. The O line WILL be ready in time..(a short time) Jeremy Claybon will be WAY better than okay. He's EXTREMELY talented in both running and passing. Our rb situation is fine. We still have DEZ BRYANT. We still have our Defense (A.J Penson, Mandela Roberts....ya'll know the rest) I'm not sayin that Lufkin can't be beat, anything could happen. But we're still 3-0...we still haven't been beaten by Longview (YET...don't freak out on me Rclisle41) So until someone beats us...then we're just young...not over-rated. ;)

[pack0808]

The offense is young but not the defense. Well the wr's are not young either!! They are one of the best in the state in my opinion and most would agree. Great defense and great wr's. The qb oline and rb positions are the inexperienced ones but the talent is there believe that.

[DragonNation]

The reason why people write this stuff about Lufkin is that you guys are so full of yourselves and really have not done anything on a big scale except in 2001.

Win something besides the east Texas championship trophy and then boast.

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

we are young and we can only get better with experience...by the time the playoffs roll around claybon will be better than now...dez will be the same explosive threat and we may have some underclassmen step up like last year...look for another exciting year panther fans

[Ladypack34]

The offense is young but not the defense. Well the wr's are not young either!! They are one of the best in the state in my opinion and most would agree. Great defense and great wr's. The qb oline and rb positions are the inexperienced ones but the talent is there believe that.


I didnt mean that the D was young....just had to put them in there

[pack0808]

The reason why people write this stuff about Lufkin is that you guys are so full of yourselves and really have not done anything on a big scale except in 2001.

Win something besides the east Texas championship trophy and then boast.

Yeah we are so full of ourselves but SLC is not!! :rolleyes: We are proud of our team just like you are so spare us your bs.

[DragonNation]

pack0808:

I don't think it's bs. Lufkin fans all write posts like the Panthers win state every year and it's time to wake up. Like a first round loss in 2003?

[pack0808]

2003 was the first time Lufkin has lost in the 1st round in like 7 or 8 years. Nobdody is bringing up that you guys were throttled by Ennis in 2001 or the few times yall go did not make the playoffs in 4a so please. Nobody is acting like Lufkin has won state every year you are a complete tool. Lufkin has without a doubt been one of the best since 2001 in 5a that is just a big fact. a state championship and 2 state semi appearances and a 53-7 record is up there with almost anybody in 5a in that same time span. We have a right to be proud but no we do not think we are the greatest and we are not delusional so get a grip man. You look like an idiot!! I have nothing but the greatest respect for SLC and all the poster's i have talked to from SLC in here feel the same. You are on the wrong board.

[VB Pack Fan]

Yes I don,t talk about people on here, but Dragon, you guys boast just as loud .I know you have won more tittles, but do you think that we are not proud of ours kids win or lose, come on dude think about what you said. There are only two teams that win it all in 5a, the rest go home, so remember when SLC hits the skids and someday it will happen, I know you will still boast about your team."Every heard that it,s a poor dog that won,t wag his own tail"

[poppy]

lufkin people
i never said you didn't have a good team this year...
i said your team is a little over rated...
this week vs. kf you will get a taste of reality...
good thing you don't play longview this year..
another team that is way over rated this year is tyler lee...

[pack4life]

All this talk about KF coming in and running the table at Abe...

I'm not feelin' that at all..

Outlaw hasen't even begun to open up the offense yet, hasen't needed to....

Saving that for district...


You think just Dez is our key and Claybon isn't that good... just wait my friends..

I can't wait until Friday NIGHT

[poppy]

nobody said anything about lufkin players not being that good...
only that the team is a little over rated. i don't see them as a top 5 team in the state this year...no doubt last year they were...
this year kf will not be denied and abe stadium will not save the pack...
the eagles soar......kf by 14.... :(

[kchsfan]

It is all about match-ups and KF matches up well. Both teams have inexperienced QB's.

If this game was played anywhere else but Abe, I would take KF but it isn't so Lufkin by less than a TD.

[LP Pride]

Why so much fuss about over-rating or under-rating??? Who cares when you have a play-off system?

Hey Dragon, you needn't worry so much about how the fans feel about the team, we are proud of what has been accomplished and are quite aware of the number of titles. I think you'll have to admit the times we have played SLC, you guys went home with a heavy sigh and relief that it was over - I know, I know woulda, coulda shoulda....but 2002 you guys were real lucky, last year you took it to us for most of the game, but it wasn't over until the final buzzer rang.

The East Texas Title is kind of cool and something to be proud of, 3 of the 4 5A schools have been rated and finished in the Top 10 for the past 5 years or so. Maybe we can get the UIL to put us all in the same district? Wouldn't that be something Lufkin, Longview, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, and SLC...I know it will not happen for you guys, but it was a reality for us for years. Do you think you would roll this district??? Or how about the 4-team round robin we survived for 2-years. No slight against JT because are on their way up. But how well do you really think SLC would have done having to face Lee, LV and LP twice in the same year for district and then potentially facing them again in the playoffs? All hypothetical I know, but just give this some thought as to why we are really proud of our kids and coaches. ;)

This season is still young and LP is still growing up, tons of potential and talent, just need some experience. Defense will help the offense get the necessary time it needs. I have seen spurts of the the tremendous potential quick strike capability, but we'll all have to wait and see......going to be fun!

This week will hopefully be a good test for us, win or lose, the season will not be decided.

[LP_FAN_in_Plano]

Good grief, It sounds like a bunch of whiney SLC fans in here. Let RClisle and anyone else think what they will. I mean losing to LP over and over has got to leave a bad taste in Longviews mouth. Maybe RCLisle is bumping his gums to get the taste out, can you blame him? Everyone will know if Lufkin is good or not come December, but between now and then I pray all of the Lufkin fans do not become the whiners that SLC is anytime someone has anything negative to say or just will not simply ordain them the team of the Millennia. Just let the young men who play the game settle it on the field.

[PurpleNation]

But how will those RBs do when they face a fast, stingy defense. Longview has faced great RBs with good Olines(except WM) in all but one game. WE held ECA to 39 yards rushing. We also kept a very good WM RB to negligible yards rushing. An all this w/o our starting Lbs who are very good players. Our DEs, LBs and Secondary are very fast. I don't think any team will be very successful running the ball against us this year. So what does that leave for LP? Passing. Claybon has alot to learn yet and won't be ready for a tough, experienced D like Longview. That's why I have said losing Lane will hurt y'all so much this year..just like losing Luna has hurt SLC. Those RBs may be good...but they aren't good enough IMO.



Dez Bryant is why we will beat Longview in the 4th round and on our way to a State Title. He can't be stoped and with Roberts smaking McGee, and Ivory in the mouth it will be 10 st8. Longview stay away from Hewitt cause your QB throws like crap.

Sorry everone im just tired of Longview, and they have not beat us since Fred Talley.

[pack0808]

I cannot believe people think KF has a chance at Abe!! Oh well it makes the season more exciting and this board more exciting. I am glad some people think that i really am.

[VB Pack Fan]

Hey P-nation I,m not sure but I don,t think Dez played in that game, and if he did it was not him that beat LONGVIEW.....but I may be wrong so let me know.

[PurpleNation]

He was in but I think it was as an Upback against Lview. We didnt try him at WR until Cedar Park. He played JV last season and he was our best WR. Poor JV teams.

[ktCarl]

Klein Forrest has a good team this year but I wouldn't put $$ on any team entering 'Old Abe'.

[pack0808]

No Dez did not play for the first time at the varsity level until after the Longview game when they played Cedar Park. Dez had nothing to do with the Longview win last year. I did call the fade to Dez before almost anybody knew who he was in his very first game. Not trying to toot my horn but toot toot. ;)

[pack4life]

No Dez did not play for the first time at the varsity level until after the Longview game when they played Cedar Park. Dez had nothing to do with the Longview win last year. I did call the fade to Dez before almost anybody knew who he was in his very first game. Not trying to toot my horn but toot toot. ;)


LOL man i did the exact same thing... we were on like the cedar park 10 yd line and number "34" lined up and i turned to my dad and said "Fade, number 34"...

[PackAttack2005]

Klein Forest has played all three of their games this season at Klein Memorial Stadium. They play 7 of their 10 games there this year, two (2) at Conroe's Moorehead Stadium and one (1) t Abe Martin. They have played well at home but this will be a big road test for them, a long Friday night drive to Abe Martin to face the Lufkin Panthers on their home turf and large and vocal crowd.

Lufkin has played 2 of 3 non-district games on the road so far, so coming home for the Klein Forest game will be a huge advantage for the PACK.

The Klein and Conroe teams do not travel well, especially a 2 1/2 hour trip to OL' Abe Martin on a Friday night.

The Panthers will be ready and we will see what KF has to offer in the PACK'S DEN.

My prediction:

Lufkin - 28
Klein Forest - 17

Go Pack!!!

[unbiasedobserver]

The winner of this game should win 14-5a. These are the two best teams right now. I agree that the Pack should win this one if they don't take KF too lightly.
The game is at "Abe" and the Pack's defense and kicker should make the difference.

[PurpleNation]

Abe is a BIG time advantage for the Pack. I look for K Forest to be rattled in pre game warm-ups by the sea of purple. Im not sure if there is a team in america that wouldn't be a little nervouse playing us in Abe. Lufkin offense will be in no funk fridanight

Lufkin 42
Klien Forest 14

[KT2000]

I expect LP to win but this is a game they obviously have to be careful with. Klein Forest appears to be back to their typical good physical, defensive form after a down year last season. They'll be eager to prove themselves against Lufkin and the Panthers must play better than they did last week to avoid defeat.

Forest is a well-coached bunch and we'll find out just how good they are this week.

[PACKMAN]

I agree that LP is little overrated this year but I still don't see them losing until the second or third round in the playoffs. If Pflugerville doesn't get them....Longview will for sure. With a lackluster win against a perrenial 4a pushover one does have to wonder how LP will do against a GOOD 5a team. I'm still pulling for LP though. Good luck to both teams.


You might want to hold off on having those T-shirts made up this time. That was a scrimmage game ............. remember? Is it too early to be stirring this pot? Nah ...... it's never too early.

Remember, It aint how we start ................. its how we finish! GO LP

[PackAttack2005]

We PACK fans remember the 2003 Katy team, lost the opener at Abe and never looked back reeling off 15 wins in a row to take the state crown from SLC. So your right, it is not how you start the season, it is where you are at the end!

[RP-3]

King I appreciate your humbleness. I assure you I have tried to avoid Lufkin talk but every time I do one of them makes a smart remark and it gets my blood pumping. I will try and let it go until the playoffs get here. I'm not sure how any Lview fan can keep from talking about it though.

Rclisle41, what's there to talk about we have lost 9 in a row to them. Until we beat them it's easy to keep from talking about it.

[PACK '97]

I expect LP to win but this is a game they obviously have to be careful with. Klein Forest appears to be back to their typical good physical, defensive form after a down year last season. They'll be eager to prove themselves against Lufkin and the Panthers must play better than they did last week to avoid defeat.

Forest is a well-coached bunch and we'll find out just how good they are this week.


I agree with you KT, but you have to agree as well that Outlaw knows this and will have the PACK ready to play....I'm getting off work at 3 and heading down to Abe from Dallas just for this game....gonna be a good one

[KT2000]

I'm sure Outlaw doesn't need to say a word pregame to get his bunch riled up to play in front of the home crowd. If you can't get fired up for a home game, then dangit, this sport just isn't for you.

[c-lisle]

Rclisle41, what's there to talk about we have lost 9 in a row to them. Until we beat them it's easy to keep from talking about it.


Whats there to talk about? Ummmmm....how we are going to beat them this year. This game will be the hump for us this year, just as it has been the last few years. I have already stated my opinion on it so I'm just looking forward to district play. The playoffs will be here soon enough.

[unbiasedobserver]

It would seem to me that Lview might have thier own problems this weekend Rclisle41. I hope the team is more focused on Mesquite than some of the fans seem to be. Lufkin needs to worry about KF not the beating Lview once again.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Seen KF play....good! Seen Lufkin play....better!

I say Lufkin by 14. (28-14)

[c-lisle]

It would seem to me that Lview might have thier own problems this weekend Rclisle41. I hope the team is more focused on Mesquite than some of the fans seem to be. Lufkin needs to worry about KF not the beating Lview once again.


Just responding to a post. I have stated my opinion on Lufkin and am done discussing it. You are correct Longview has to focus on district because there are teams capable of beating us if we get caught looking ahead.

Really though I don't think the game this weekend will be close in the end. Just too much firepower from Lview.

Lview-35

Mesquite-21

[pack0808]

I am sure KF will be a test but Lufkin's defense is just too dominant. The 1st string has been scored on twice in 3 games. Once after the offense fumbled at LP's 11 yard line vs Nac and PAM scored on a screen pass on 3rd and long when Lufkin sent the house. Just a great call!! Nobody has mounted a consistent drive for a score on them yet but then again they have not really played anybody. Not to mention Lufkin's defense has been on the field a very long time due to an inconsistent offense but explosive offense that scores quickly. Not a good recipe for clock management. This defense if healthy, could possibly be the best i have seen since Lufkin 03 or NS 03. They have that type of potential. Just my biased opinion. We will see how good they really are friday night. I pick Lufkin 35-7 and KF one score comes on defense. If the offense can just get more consistent and more efficient with the clock the defense will be even better because they will be rested.

[pack0808]

Just responding to a post. I have stated my opinion on Lufkin and am done discussing it. You are correct Longview has to focus on district because there are teams capable of beating us if we get caught looking ahead.

Really though I don't think the game this weekend will be close in the end. Just too much firepower from Lview.

Lview-35

Mesquite-21


I doubt it will be that close!! Longview 42-14

[c-lisle]

I doubt it will be that close!! Longview 42-14


I was being modest. LOL


Seriously, it could be closer. i don't know what Mesquite has coming back but they were pretty good last year. I predict 35-21 b/c i'm hoping our 2nd teamers will play most of the second half. You are prolly right though we should score at least 42.

What's with these people saying the KF-LP game will be close close. I think it will be a thrashing myself.

[homeboy281]

yo i vote Klein Forest in this fo sho. Klein Forest has a Power Defense lead by Donald Booker. He is juss a raddle snake. he is every where on the field. If Donald starts making plays, the rest of the defense will follow. On offense Ty Magic is the key, he wont be stopped no matter how good there defense is. Also Key players to watch are Paul Sierra, Jerson Duarte, and Jose Garza. I definitely see KF going to state this year. Most people don't know that there starting quarter back is a sophomore, there best receiver is a junior, there best LB is junior, and Best DT is a Junior. These kids worked hard in the off season and there hard work will pay off in this game. Fo Sho.. Get oFF me!!

Klein Forest: 24
LufKin:17

[Favpack]

Seen KF play....good! Seen Lufkin play....better!

I say Lufkin by 14. (28-14)

Best analysis I've heard in days -- and the score is pretty dang close to what I might state.

[PurpleNation]

yo i vote Klein Forest in this fo sho. Klein Forest has a Power Defense lead by Donald Booker. He is juss a raddle snake. he is every where on the field. If Donald starts making plays, the rest of the defense will follow. On offense Ty Magic is the key, he wont be stopped no matter how good there defense is. Also Key players to watch are Paul Sierra, Jerson Duarte, and Jose Garza. I definitely see KF going to state this year. Most people don't know that there starting quarter back is a sophomore, there best receiver is a junior, there best LB is junior, and Best DT is a Junior. These kids worked hard in the off season and there hard work will pay off in this game. Fo Sho.. Get oFF me!!

Klein Forest: 24
LufKin:17

Wow Klien Forest going to state. They will barely finish 3rd behind The Woodlands. Lufkin 42 K Forest 14 with a late TD on second D

[TWHPA]

I agree....I believe Klein Forest has the talent but I don't see them beating LP at Home...wish I could watch this one but we all need to be watching out for Rita...

[kchsfan]

It will be a great game. KF has MORE talent than Lufkin from top to bottom BUT:

Lufkins defense is great where Klein Forest's is real good. KF Offense is better than Lufkins but Outlaw will out coach the KF coach. He will work magic with the officials to make sure they are seeing stuff correctly but that is the home field advantage they have always had and that is the way it is.

I am rooting for KF but it would be an upset.

[pack0808]

LOL at KF having more talent top to bottom then Lufkin!! :D I am sorry but that was just funny!! Lufkin will once again again have 4-7 div1a recruits this year and they have a couple of juniors that will be blue chippers next year in Dez Bryant and AJ Penson. Shankle, Hewitt, and Roberts are all major recruits and Hewitt is a blue chipper. Lufkin is loaded with talent once again. I am sure KF is talented but come on. Did they replace the whole roster from the one Lufkin played last year?? Lufkin usually blows teams out at home and it has nothing to do with the officials?? :rolleyes:

[LUFPAN]

It will be a great game. KF has MORE talent than Lufkin from top to bottom BUT:

Lufkins defense is great where Klein Forest's is real good. KF Offense is better than Lufkins but Outlaw will out coach the KF coach. He will work magic with the officials to make sure they are seeing stuff correctly but that is the home field advantage they have always had and that is the way it is.

I am rooting for KF but it would be an upset.


More talent than Lufkin? Trot out your big dogs and let us all see them. Because I wasn't aware that KF had so many Div.1 recruits on their roster. Where you hiding all that talent? Does victory over three teams that have a combined 3-7 record vault KF into the Texas football elite? Not this week.

Luf: 35
KF: 14

[PACK '97]

It will be a great game. KF has MORE talent than Lufkin from top to bottom BUT:

Lufkins defense is great where Klein Forest's is real good. KF Offense is better than Lufkins but Outlaw will out coach the KF coach. He will work magic with the officials to make sure they are seeing stuff correctly but that is the home field advantage they have always had and that is the way it is.

I am rooting for KF but it would be an upset.


you've got to be kidding me...opinions are opinions, and that' what that statement is....but not fact....c'mon, stop kidding your sef...I hope you make it to the game to see the TALENT we have (my opinion)

[TheDuke]

Would the Pack fans say that they have a better Defense? Or Offense?

Reason I ask because KF has 2 GOOD RB's! One has been playing the last 2 games while the other is waiting for a shoulder to heal up should be back against Lufkin.

[KT2000]

Not a Panther through and through but I'll answer anyway.... ;)

Defense is ahead of the offense right now but as soon as Lufkin's younger OL comes together...look out. Also, the Panthers are looking for a consistent back but I think the improving OL will help that out.

It will be a very tough challenge for the Forest offense. Robinson and Vincent must have big games on the ground.

[PackAttack2005]

The Lufkin defense is somewhat ahead of their offense, right now. Everyone on the Lufkin D runs a 4.7 or better. They have only given up 195 total rushing yards through (3) three games and have given up an average of only 150 yards and 8.6 points per game. The offense is balanced and averaging 390 yards and 37 points per game.

This will be a good game.

Lufkin - 28
Klein Forest - 17

Go Pack!!!

[PACK '97]

i agree that the D is ahead of the O....your right KT, once the O-line gels together and Claybon and the WR corp stay on track, the offense will definately start turning some heads

[Texasfrog]

The Lufkin defense is somewhat ahead of their offense, right now. Everyone on the Lufkin D runs a 4.7 or better. They have only given up 195 total rushing yards through (3) three games and have given up an average of only 150 yards and 8.6 points per game. The offense is balanced and averaging 390 yards and 37 points per game.

This will be a good game.

Lufkin - 28
Klein Forest - 17

Go Pack!!!

This is going to be a tough game. This could honestly be the district championship game in "game one."

Klein Forest sounds like they're for real and jelling pretty good right now.

[c-lisle]

Where can I find a KF roster? Can someone who knows about KF give information on their team (type of offense, defense, key players,stats, etc.)?

[Texasfrog]

Where can I find a KF roster? Can someone who knows about KF give information on their team (type of offense, defense, key players,stats, etc.)?

Go to the Houston Chronicle (Sports- High school- football = stats and rosters). Its not alwasy 100% but its pretty good.

[PackAttack2005]

Rclisle wants to size up KF, he knows Longview can beat them and play the 2nd string the second half. Sorry, just had to do that.

Here is the link: http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/hs/fb/boys/boys_fb_team_page.hts?team_id=15117&district=14-5A&month=08&date=18&year=2005&class=5A

[pack0808]

Lufkin's defense is definitely ahead of the offense because the d is one of the best in the state if not the best!! They are that good in my humble opinion and i am not being a homer when i say that!! Of the 150 yards a game they are given up on average which is excellent, i would say the majority of that came when the 2nd team was in. 2 td's came against the 2nd team also and Lufkin is still only giving up 8 points a game. The offense is explosive with a ton of potential but still has further to go be very good. They are very inconsistent!! I believe the defense has 8-10 sacks on the year!! They will definitely hit you in the mouth!! The offense/defense has not been tested yet by a great team so we will see!! I think KF is a good top 20 team with potential so we will see how Lufkin does vs them??

[PACKMAN]

Would the Pack fans say that they have a better Defense? Or Offense?

Reason I ask because KF has 2 GOOD RB's! One has been playing the last 2 games while the other is waiting for a shoulder to heal up should be back against Lufkin.


Defense is further along at this point in the season ............. this is a whole new offensive line .......... slow and steady improvement is what we need.

With that being said ....... I'm not sure I would want to "test" my healed shoulder against the "purple swarm" in the district opener at ole Abe Martin ............. ouch!

[KLH75287]

After seeing Lp for the first time this year against Nac, let me say that the LP "D" is ready to play with just about anybody for four full quarters. They were on the field all night long against a decent team that could compete in 14-5A, with the exception of a long 2nd half drive by The Pack. They gave up 4 big gains (15+) that I saw. Three of them were the same play. They are very fast and hit like locomotives.

The LP "O" has a long way to go if they want to be around in December. However, if they can post a 2 score lead late in the game The Pack will win 95% of the time because of their "D".

Should be a good game. The edge has to go to LP playing at Ol' Abe.

KF better be ready to get hit all night long.

GO PACK IN '05

[Mean Green Machine]

Purple People Eaters....Reminds me of JLane last years game against the Woodz, he had a hell of a game. A monster of the midway.

[TheDuke]

Purple People Eaters....Reminds me of JLane last years game against the Woodz, he had a hell of a game. A monster of the midway.

If we could have stopped Lane last year we would have won that game!

[dragonsdaddy]

If we could have stopped Lane last year we would have won that game!
that may go down as the biggest oversimplification i've read in a while.

[TheDuke]

that may go down as the biggest oversimplification i've read in a while.

How is that? He scored all there TD's on long runs

[Mean Green Machine]

He took over the game in the second half. I think he was sick and it was a Texas, muggy, Saturday, afternoon. Stud. He didn't belly ache.

[dragonsdaddy]

stopping lane was much easier said than done. there are lots of examples of similar situations. if s moss hadn't caught the 2 tds, if the hurricane hadn't hit no,.......simple to say, hard to accomplish.

[Lee05]

If we could have stopped Lane last year we would have won that game!

that's what everyone said!

[Favpack]

It appears this game may be moved to tomorrow night according to the Lufkin Daily News - stay tuned.

[TWHPA]

We had a meeting last night and the coach said that our game is being moved to 8:00 pm to accomidate either the Klein game or the Oakridge game. All Friday and Saturday games in CISD and KISD are being rescheduled for Thursday if possible.

[pack0808]

Similar here!! The Lufkin/KF game has been moved to tommorrow night and all LISD classes will be cancelled Friday due to the evacuees.

[c-lisle]

that's what everyone said!


except Longview

[LP_FAN_in_Plano]

except Longview
Yeah LView had a lot to say after LP knocked them out of the playoffs. good job stopping Lane.

[pack0808]

I think Lane was pretty dang productive last year vs Longview Rclisle. LOL The only game that he was really limited was the SLC game!!

[PackAttack2005]

Rclisle, Your in denial about Lane and Lufkin, you talk out both sides of your mouth or keyboard. I don't respect anything you say on this forum. I don't want you to root for Lufkin in anything we do, we don't need any of your support, period. Your sound like an idiot when you talk about Lufkin, it's as if it has been pure luck that Lufkin has a winning steak against your unstoppable Lobos. I am sick of you not giving Lufkin any credit for anything and please stop acting like you support us we we are not playing the Lobos, we don't need it.

I read your stuff on the Lobo site, it is nauseating to read how you almost live in the locker room with those guys.

You should be an assitant coach at Longview or something, it would be you dream job.

[c-lisle]

I think Lane was pretty dang productive last year vs Longview Rclisle. LOL The only game that he was really limited was the SLC game!!


I am just saying it wasn't Lane that beat us. He had over 100 yds, I think, but I'm pretty sure Lview beat themselves that day.

Go back a couple of years and tell me how many yds Lane had against Lview. When we were in the round robin I know Longview held Lane under 100 yds in one of those games if not both. Y'all still won I am just saying Lview did a better job of stopping him than most.

[LP_FAN_in_Plano]

I am just saying it wasn't Lane that beat us. He had over 100 yds, I think, but I'm pretty sure Lview beat themselves that day.

Go back a couple of years and tell me how many yds Lane had against Lview. When we were in the round robin I know Longview held Lane under 100 yds in one of those games if not both. Y'all still won I am just saying Lview did a better job of stopping him than most.

your right, it could not have been the hard hitting LP defense jarring the ball lose from ivory that beat you. Lview just flat out gave the game away. I guess they really did not want to face SLC. LP was just lucky that day.

[c-lisle]

Rclisle, Your in denial about Lane and Lufkin, you talk out both sides of your mouth or keyboard. I don't respect anything you say on this forum. I don't want you to root for Lufkin in anything we do, we don't need any of your support, period. Your sound like an idiot when you talk about Lufkin, it's as if it has been pure luck that Lufkin has a winning steak against your unstoppable Lobos. I am sick of you not giving Lufkin any credit for anything and please stop acting like you support us we we are not playing the Lobos, we don't need it.

I read your stuff on the Lobo site, it is nauseating to read how you almost live in the locker room with those guys.

You should be an assitant coach at Longview or something, it would be you dream job.


I respect the fact that you don't respect anything I say on this forum. LOL If I have misstated facts or been disrespectful towards you I am sorry(which I don't think I have been). I just state my opinion, sorry they don't please you. One thing I do know is I don't come on these forums and say things to people I wouldn't say to their face, that is cowardly in my opinion.

And don't you run the LP forum? Even if you don't you are a hall-of-famer on this site. You may want to look in the mirror. I am a fan of my team just like you.

I played baseball in HS and really don't know alot about football as far as strategy and those type things are concerned. I would make a horrible coach and wouldn't want a head coach job even if I was qualified. LOL

[bleedgreen]

LP in Plano---we've all heard the same kind of crap spewed for the last year about that game.....give it a rest, that's pretty played out...........and Lobo fans---we lost, end of story!! why do people keep on bringing this subject up???

[bleedgreen]

Rclisle wants to size up KF, he knows Longview can beat them and play the 2nd string the second half. Sorry, just had to do that.

Here is the link: http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/hs/fb/boys/boys_fb_team_page.hts?team_id=15117&district=14-5A&month=08&date=18&year=2005&class=5A
what do you think we've been doing in those wins??? playing the starters the first half, and throwing in the 2nd and 3rd teamers for the second half.......that was a very true statement, sir.............

[pack0808]

LP in Plano---we've all heard the same kind of crap spewed for the last year about that game.....give it a rest, that's pretty played out...........and Lobo fans---we lost, end of story!! why do people keep on bringing this subject up???


It just does not quit Bleed!! :confused: