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fireaway
03-28-2007, 06:09 PM
I Have The Ring (it Came In Early) Its So Big!!!! Gimme A Sec To Get A Good Pic On Here>..

GO DOWN FURTHER\/ TO SEE PICS OF LAST YEARS RING

OK HERE IT IS \/
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43129670&albumID=0&imageID=5953920
STILL NEW RING> (THREE DIAMONDS STAND FOR OUR THREE PEAT> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43129670&albumID=0&imageID=5954477

(LAST YEARS>) http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43129670&albumID=0&imageID=5954414

yankee
03-28-2007, 06:13 PM
i saw some football players trying them on in lunch today...you can literally see it from one end of the cafeteria to another.

fireaway
03-28-2007, 06:15 PM
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43129670&albumID=0&imageID=5953920

GO TO THIS SITE (ITS MY MYSPACE) TO SEE THE RING!!! TELL ME WHAT U THINK AND SOMEBODY GET THE CEDAR HILL ONE UP HERE

dragons08
03-28-2007, 06:15 PM
all the players were leaning to their right.

dragons08
03-28-2007, 06:17 PM
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43129670&albumID=0&imageID=5953920

GO TO THIS SITE (ITS MY MYSPACE) TO SEE THE RING!!! TELL ME WHAT U THINK AND SOMEBODY GET THE CEDAR HILL ONE UP HERE

tons of diamonds. you got a pic of last years ring? that thing was DECKED out in diamonds.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
03-28-2007, 06:45 PM
WOW! That's all I can say!

Southlakehawk
03-28-2007, 08:13 PM
none of the links work for me:(

svhorns
03-28-2007, 08:19 PM
http://a45.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_798e35371946420b885c353d37387b1c.jpg


http://a737.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/38/l_f037bb321eb20578e81f5ebdb38374b0.jpg


http://myspace-439.vo.llnwd.net/00624/93/43/624103439_l.jpg

BAMF cowboy
03-28-2007, 08:20 PM
Let me guess...the only players that actually wore them were the JV kids and back ups that got to dress out for playoffs.

svhorns
03-28-2007, 08:21 PM
Let me guess...the only players that actually wore them were the JV kids and back ups that got to dress out for playoffs.

your avatar sucks ;)

BAMF cowboy
03-28-2007, 08:36 PM
your avatar sucks ;)

my avatar is still in the champions league:rolleyes:

Southlakehawk
03-28-2007, 08:36 PM
http://a45.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_798e35371946420b885c353d37387b1c.jpg


http://a737.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/38/l_f037bb321eb20578e81f5ebdb38374b0.jpg


http://myspace-439.vo.llnwd.net/00624/93/43/624103439_l.jpg

thanks svhorns!!!!!

TexasRed6x
03-28-2007, 08:59 PM
http://a45.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_798e35371946420b885c353d37387b1c.jpg


http://a737.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/38/l_f037bb321eb20578e81f5ebdb38374b0.jpg


http://myspace-439.vo.llnwd.net/00624/93/43/624103439_l.jpg

Damn those are nice!!!

dragons08
03-28-2007, 10:16 PM
Let me guess...the only players that actually wore them were the JV kids and back ups that got to dress out for playoffs.

acutally, some of the oringal varsity players had them. but yes, a ton of jv kids had them. an early shipment came in today, the rest come in tomorrow.

dragons08
03-28-2007, 10:16 PM
fireaway, how much does each cost.

cedarhill96
03-28-2007, 10:55 PM
http://www.myspace.com/tinoscustommotorcycles
I have a pic of Cedar Hill ring on myspace. Its not the best pic.

dragons08
03-28-2007, 10:57 PM
http://www.myspace.com/tinoscustommotorcycles
I have a pic of Cedar Hill ring on myspace. Its not the best pic.

pretty nice guys.

KattTx
03-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Very very nice - for both teams. Enjoy - congrats to both state champs.

BigFanSLC
03-29-2007, 01:40 PM
the 2002 state ring is better(see above avatar)^

pied
03-29-2007, 02:08 PM
Aren't these things normally handed out at a banquet of some sort?

svhorns
03-29-2007, 02:23 PM
http://a605.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_a86b7c6a844164dae2d3ad0654b13dfc.jpg

TheLoneRanger96
03-29-2007, 03:46 PM
http://a605.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_a86b7c6a844164dae2d3ad0654b13dfc.jpg

Now that looks SHARP! We'll see if they can build a dynasty like Southlake and out do this ring.

Dds115
03-29-2007, 04:49 PM
At Southlake they never got them at any special banquet, they always just picked them up the day they came it.

DrEdward
03-29-2007, 07:42 PM
Congratulations to the winners of these rings at both state championship schools, Carroll and cedar Hill. As cool/big/expensive as these rings must be, they are of minimal cosequence compared to what you earned inside for your performances at the largest school level of the best high school footbal played anywhere in the United States.

trainin' the game
03-30-2007, 10:09 AM
it don't mean a thing if you ain't got that BLING!!!!!!;)

markp912
03-30-2007, 11:49 AM
both rings are very nice. i would like to have just one!!!

CKE
04-05-2007, 06:45 AM
this is how an all state ring looks its pretty cool

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/ummyeaaaa/ranger_final.jpg

markp912
04-05-2007, 07:56 PM
wheres a place to design a ring other than balfour?

Westlake06
04-10-2007, 09:02 PM
Westlake's State Finalist Rings.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7494/n1515840416302622488142lm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the one the ring company sent coach long and it's one of them that dosen't have the black background around the words.


http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7426/75580227kn4.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75580227kn4.jpg)

This is mine with the black background but I used my phone to take the picture so it's pretty bad quality.

Westlake06
04-10-2007, 09:14 PM
wheres a place to design a ring other than balfour?

Herf Jones is the comany that did ours.

CKE
04-10-2007, 10:00 PM
Westlake's State Finalist Rings.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7494/n1515840416302622488142lm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the one the ring company sent coach long and it's one of them that dosen't have the black background around the words.


http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7426/75580227kn4.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75580227kn4.jpg)

This is mine with the black background but I used my phone to take the picture so it's pretty bad quality.

you got state finalist rings........for what?

markp912
04-10-2007, 10:01 PM
you got state finalist rings........for what?

for being 2nd in the state of texas duh.

CKE
04-10-2007, 10:02 PM
for being 2nd in the state of texas duh.

yeah but the point of the ring is to where it cause you won.

markp912
04-10-2007, 10:10 PM
they must have won alot on the way to state. shouldnt that count? id love to have a rings from HS sports.

CKE
04-10-2007, 10:22 PM
they must have won alot on the way to state. shouldnt that count? id love to have a rings from HS sports.

not really when i went to state and played slc and lost by three points in the last 6 sec. i didnt feel like it would be justified to get a second place ring and trust me i won a lot of games on the way to state

markp912
04-10-2007, 10:27 PM
not really when i went to state and played slc and lost by three points in the last 6 sec. i didnt feel like it would be justified to get a second place ring and trust me i won a lot of games on the way to state

yeah a 1st place ring is always better than any other ring.

dragons08
04-10-2007, 10:32 PM
thats what class rings are for..

DrEdward
04-10-2007, 10:32 PM
wheres a place to design a ring other than balfour?

The other principal ring company for schools is Josten's. They likely have an office around Dallas somewhere, but I believe their headquarters and manufacturing facility is in Minnesota. They do very good work, however.

CKE
04-10-2007, 10:45 PM
thats what class rings are for..

I agree

wargograw
04-11-2007, 12:23 AM
yeah ive seen the westlake rings theyre pretty awesome. i didnt think we'd get them even though we lost but apparently we did. and they didnt let our moved up jv guys get one.

DrEdward
04-11-2007, 01:02 AM
yeah ive seen the westlake rings theyre pretty awesome. i didnt think we'd get them even though we lost but apparently we did. and they didnt let our moved up jv guys get one.

Does this imply that you didn't have to pay for the rings, as you thought you would not get one? Just curious. I have no issue with Westlake ordering rings for making it to the state championship game; it is a major deal, just as when Katy or SV made it or Carroll in '03. Those schools didn't have rings made, but that surely doesn't preclude Westlake from doing so. By the way, the Carroll "jv" players who elected to receive rings were those moved up to the varsity for the game. Of course, they didn't get to play, but it is still part of the fun of going to state.

drgnbkr
04-11-2007, 01:04 AM
Hide your rings boys...Dada's in town!:p

badger95
04-11-2007, 09:45 AM
A state finalist ring is not unprecedented. It is silver, which is indicative of second.

Also, when college teams go to bowls, both teams get rings, even those that the New Orleans bowl and end up at 6-7 will get a New Orleans Bowl ring.

badger95
04-11-2007, 09:47 AM
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=championship+ring&category0=

There, now everyone can go buy which ever ring you like.

GOAT
04-11-2007, 12:51 PM
www.digitaljewelry.com

They make AMAZING custon championship rings

CFlb38 08
04-11-2007, 06:32 PM
wow these are so awesome.

we ordered finals rings.!!!!:D :D

wargograw
04-11-2007, 09:43 PM
i dont believe our boys got them for free. someone said its like $600

Westlake06
04-12-2007, 03:05 PM
i dont believe our boys got them for free. someone said its like $600

The silver ones were around 250 and the gold ones were around 500.

CKE
04-12-2007, 03:11 PM
The silver ones were around 250 and the gold ones were around 500.

now im really confused you could still buy a gold ring for 2nd place :confused:

Westlake06
04-12-2007, 03:28 PM
It was an option for color but I don't think anyone got the gold one.

CKE
04-12-2007, 04:05 PM
It was an option for color but I don't think anyone got the gold one.

ahhhhhhh i see I would not have bought a 500 dollar ring either

badger95
04-13-2007, 09:56 AM
It was an option for color but I don't think anyone got the gold one.

It would have been white gold, which is silver in color.

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-14-2007, 12:02 AM
Showing off the bling don't mean a thing. I think the ring is a bit gaudy. My state ring is 20 years old and its a classic design it makes a statement and I still wear it on Plano game day.

Sometimes the best ring design is the design that doesn't try blind you with all the clutter.

Curious if the SLC kids had to work to pay for those rings similar to what Trinity did last year or did the parents pony up for the thing.

Anyone have a cost on the sucka?

DrEdward
04-14-2007, 12:26 AM
Showing off the bling don't mean a thing. I think the ring is a bit gaudy. My state ring is 20 years old and its a classic design it makes a statement and I still wear it on Plano game day.

Sometimes the best ring design is the design that doesn't try blind you with all the clutter.

Curious if the SLC kids had to work to pay for those rings similar to what Trinity did last year or did the parents pony up for the thing.

Anyone have a cost on the sucka?

Don't know the cost of this year's ring. But I would point out that when it came time for the Trinity players to get their rings, many of the Carroll players pitched in to help the Trinity players earn the money to buy their rings. So be a bit more circumspect on this "parents ponying up the money" notion for Carroll players while Trinity players had to work for their money.

markp912
04-14-2007, 12:29 AM
Showing off the bling don't mean a thing. I think the ring is a bit gaudy. My state ring is 20 years old and its a classic design it makes a statement and I still wear it on Plano game day.

Sometimes the best ring design is the design that doesn't try blind you with all the clutter.

Curious if the SLC kids had to work to pay for those rings similar to what Trinity did last year or did the parents pony up for the thing.

Anyone have a cost on the sucka?


now a days its all about the bling and gaudynes. times change

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-14-2007, 12:34 AM
Don't know the cost of this year's ring. But I would point out that when it came time for the Trinity players to get their rings, many of the Carroll players pitched in to help the Trinity players earn the money to buy their rings. So be a bit more circumspect on this "parents ponying up the money" notion for Carroll players while Trinity players had to work for their money.

Please, Your telling me that the SLC team went out of their to voluteer an work so the less fortunate Trinity players can afford state rings. I never saw anything about that on the news. Personally I think that is a total farce. Personally, I wouldn't want anyone givng charity work for me to afford a ring that I earned.

By the the way I payed for my ring at Plano through mowing yards/summer jobs. Although my ring didn't cost $600+ it was still expensive for a highschool kid who had to pay for it himself, even though my parents could of payed for it.

DrEdward
04-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Please, Your telling me that the SLC team went out of their to voluteer an work so the less fortunate Trinity players can afford state rings. I never saw anything about that on the news. Personally I think that is a total farce. Personally, I wouldn't want anyone givng charity work for me to afford a ring that I earned.

By the the way I payed for my ring at Plano through mowing yards/summer jobs. Although my ring didn't cost $600+ it was still expensive for a highschool kid who had to pay for it himself, even though my parents could of payed for it.

The fact that you didn't read about it does not make it any less true. Many of the Carroll kids did pitch in to help raise the money for the Trinity players. None of them felt the need to broadcast it to the world. Sorry if you think two high school teams with a great deal of respect for each other helping each other out is a total farce.

OakTreeUp-n-Out
04-14-2007, 01:09 AM
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Plano Wildcat Fan
04-14-2007, 12:07 PM
The fact that you didn't read about it does not make it any less true. Many of the Carroll kids did pitch in to help raise the money for the Trinity players. None of them felt the need to broadcast it to the world. Sorry if you think two high school teams with a great deal of respect for each other helping each other out is a total farce.

Did they go out of their way to help the less fortunate kids in Cedar Hill this year? That would be the respectful thing to do for the Longhorns.

I'm sure both schools have a great deal of respect for each other. I don't believe for a minute that the carroll players out of the kindness of their heart went and did voluteer work so they could donate money for those poor Trinity kids. That is a joke.

I believe the story just isn't true you must have your facts distorted.

my3sons
04-14-2007, 02:53 PM
Did they go out of their way to help the less fortunate kids in Cedar Hill this year? That would be the respectful thing to do for the Longhorns.

I'm sure both schools have a great deal of respect for each other. I don't believe for a minute that the carroll players out of the kindness of their heart went and did voluteer work so they could donate money for those poor Trinity kids. That is a joke.

I believe the story just isn't true you must have your facts distorted.

PWF: you might want to contact Coach Steve Lineweaver and ask if the Carroll kids did indeed do volunteer work to help defray the cost of the Trinity rings. It is true. They didn't do it for publicity either. The reason the same did not occur for Cedar Hill is simple, Cedar Hill paid for their own. Can't high school kids do something good for one another? By the way, if SLC parents paid for the rings, or whether they worked out arrangements with their kids, it is really a personal thing between parents and children. I do know of some kids who contributed to the cost. Either way is ok.

SC606
04-14-2007, 04:43 PM
Did they go out of their way to help the less fortunate kids in Cedar Hill this year? That would be the respectful thing to do for the Longhorns.

I'm sure both schools have a great deal of respect for each other. I don't believe for a minute that the carroll players out of the kindness of their heart went and did voluteer work so they could donate money for those poor Trinity kids. That is a joke.

I believe the story just isn't true you must have your facts distorted.

From "Dave Campbells Texas Football"...

Some Euless Trinity insight (2:36 p.m.)
I'm sitting next to the principal of Euless Trinity, and he's told me some pretty good stories about the team.
For one, after Trinity won its state title last year, the players worked over the holidays to make enough money to buy state championship rings. (Schools are forbidden to purchase rings for students -- only letter jackets).

So in a temp service set up by Trinity coach Steve Lineweaver, the players mowed lawns, raked leaves, and cleaned around houses and other outdoor chores to raise money.

A Southlake parent ordered the temp service, and when the Trinity players arrived, there were Carroll players there to work side-by-side. It formed a friendship between some of the Carroll and Trinity players, and those same kids ended up playing against each other in the second round in what was the most memorable game of the playoffs.

The principal said it was good to see players from two rivals getting along.

http://www.texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=2&url_article_id=1195

stevefoxsc
04-14-2007, 04:55 PM
man my grill has more bling then all them rings melted together.

DrEdward
04-14-2007, 06:26 PM
Did they go out of their way to help the less fortunate kids in Cedar Hill this year? That would be the respectful thing to do for the Longhorns.

I'm sure both schools have a great deal of respect for each other. I don't believe for a minute that the carroll players out of the kindness of their heart went and did voluteer work so they could donate money for those poor Trinity kids. That is a joke.

I believe the story just isn't true you must have your facts distorted.

Just as an aside, Cedar Hill is not some designated poverty area. There are neighborhoods in Cedar Hill which are everybit as upscale as some of those in Southlake. But perhaps more to answer your question, simply look at a map.. Trinity HS and Carroll are not that far apart. Furthermore, Trinity's coach was a former assistant at Carroll back in the late 80s and early 90s and his som is an assistant at Carroll currently. There are ties between the two football programs as a result. Again, sorry if you think it is joke.

bleedsgreen
04-14-2007, 06:36 PM
Carroll athletes have tremondous respect for Trinity and should never think other wise.

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-15-2007, 11:01 PM
Just as an aside, Cedar Hill is not some designated poverty area. There are neighborhoods in Cedar Hill which are everybit as upscale as some of those in Southlake. But perhaps more to answer your question, simply look at a map.. Trinity HS and Carroll are not that far apart. Furthermore, Trinity's coach was a former assistant at Carroll back in the late 80s and early 90s and his som is an assistant at Carroll currently. There are ties between the two football programs as a result. Again, sorry if you think it is joke.

My comment of "less fortuante kids" was in no means a socieconomic analogy. Heck any community compared to SLC is less fortunate.:D I know Cedar Hill has some very nice areas.

The previous poster on here mentioned that a temp agency owned by a SLC parent had worked an arrangement for the Trinity kids to work and earn extra money. I don't think that is the same thing as SLC players donating their working money to the trinity kids. The SLC kids working the same temp jobs on occasion with the trinity kids are earning their own money for their own means. I still don't believe for one minute those kids worked to donate their earnings so the trinity kids could afford to by rings.

The Trinity Kids make $8 an hour temping, they work 60 hours or 20 hours a week for 3 weeks they get their money for the ring. I don't think their is a need for donations from SLC.

In addition their is a UIL rule that Highschool kids can take only a certain $ value of goods and services and that amount is under $50 or less (not sure of the $ amount. So if Carroll players did give money that would actually make the Trinity kids in violation of UIL rules for accepting gifts and would make them in danger of becoming ineligible.

DrEdward
04-16-2007, 03:06 AM
My comment of "less fortuante kids" was in no means a socieconomic analogy. Heck any community compared to SLC is less fortunate.:D I know Cedar Hill has some very nice areas.

The previous poster on here mentioned that a temp agency owned by a SLC parent had worked an arrangement for the Trinity kids to work and earn extra money. I don't think that is the same thing as SLC players donating their working money to the trinity kids. The SLC kids working the same temp jobs on occasion with the trinity kids are earning their own money for their own means. I still don't believe for one minute those kids worked to donate their earnings so the trinity kids could afford to by rings.

The Trinity Kids make $8 an hour temping, they work 60 hours or 20 hours a week for 3 weeks they get their money for the ring. I don't think their is a need for donations from SLC.

In addition their is a UIL rule that Highschool kids can take only a certain $ value of goods and services and that amount is under $50 or less (not sure of the $ amount. So if Carroll players did give money that would actually make the Trinity kids in violation of UIL rules for accepting gifts and would make them in danger of becoming ineligible.

I believe the article stated that Steve Lineweaver, the Trinity coach, made arrangements with a service to help the Trinity players earn money to help pay for their rings. It also stated that a Carroll parent utilized that service, not owned it.

OakTreeUp-n-Out
04-16-2007, 07:54 AM
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Plano Wildcat Fan
04-19-2007, 09:33 AM
I believe the article stated that Steve Lineweaver, the Trinity coach, made arrangements with a service to help the Trinity players earn money to help pay for their rings. It also stated that a Carroll parent utilized that service, not owned it.

That is a far cry from your statements earlier stating that SLC players helped them earn their rings which implies that the donated their work earnings to the players. Lets keep the SLC propaganda from getting to far out of hand.:D

DrEdward
04-19-2007, 10:59 AM
That is a far cry from your statements earlier stating that SLC players helped them earn their rings which implies that the donated their work earnings to the players. Lets keep the SLC propaganda from getting to far out of hand.:D

Do you really think it is necessary that I repeat everything I have previously said each time? I simply corrected your mis-statement as to the role of a Southlake parent and that of Coach Lineweaver. No propoganda was involved whatsoever.

SLC93
04-19-2007, 11:32 AM
That is a far cry from your statements earlier stating that SLC players helped them earn their rings which implies that the donated their work earnings to the players. Lets keep the SLC propaganda from getting to far out of hand.:D

Is it so hard to believe that people in neighboring communities still reach out to one another when possible? You need to get your obsession with the so call "SLC propaganda machine" under control. This was a common known fact to the folks in these two communities and it stayed there, where it should, between friends & neighbors. Your complete lack of faith in the human condition has managed to give this topic more coverage than the actual act ever did.

drgnbkr
04-19-2007, 11:54 AM
The failed Plano machine at work! Unbelievable....:rolleyes:

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-19-2007, 11:30 PM
Is it so hard to believe that people in neighboring communities still reach out to one another when possible? You need to get your obsession with the so call "SLC propaganda machine" under control. This was a common known fact to the folks in these two communities and it stayed there, where it should, between friends & neighbors. Your complete lack of faith in the human condition has managed to give this topic more coverage than the actual act ever did.

My original question I had was I did not believe that the slc players would work temp jobs side by side with the Trinity players then turn around and sign they paycheck over to the trinity kids so they could afford their state rings. That was what DR. Edwards had basically said had happened. Which I believe was not the case. I then joked about why SLC didn't do the same with the Cedar Hill players this year.

Another point I made is if the SLC players did donate funds to Trinity players to help pay for their rings that is a direct violation of UIL rules of players accepting monetary rewards.

I think the SLC term of "Protect the Tradition" is alive and well on this board. When I try and have a little fun and point out facts that don't get answered by Dr. Edwards who started this whole discussion about the players donating their winnings to the Trininty players I get attacked again for questioning the valaidity of his statement.

Come dragon fans have a sense of humor!! Its the off-season and theirs not a whole bunch to discuss.

By the way whatever happened concerning the lawsuit concerning the cheerleader parents altercation at Texas stadium last year?

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
The failed Plano machine at work! Unbelievable....:rolleyes:

Failed? Sir I have not failed. I have done quite well in my endeavors. Gerald Brence is the one that has failed the Plano machine. Please direct those comments to the correct individual.

dragons08
04-19-2007, 11:37 PM
My original question I had was I did not believe that the slc players would work temp jobs side by side with the Trinity players then turn around and sign they paycheck over to the trinity kids so they could afford their state rings. That was what DR. Edwards had basically said had happened. Which I believe was not the case. I then joked about why SLC didn't do the same with the Cedar Hill players this year.

Another point I made is if the SLC players did donate funds to Trinity players to help pay for their rings that is a direct violation of UIL rules of players accepting monetary rewards.

I think the SLC term of "Protect the Tradition" is alive and well on this board. When I try and have a little fun and point out facts that don't get answered by Dr. Edwards who started this whole discussion about the players donating their winnings to the Trininty players I get attacked again for questioning the valaidity of his statement.

Come dragon fans have a sense of humor!! Its the off-season and theirs not a whole bunch to discuss.

By the way whatever happened concerning the lawsuit concerning the cheerleader parents altercation at Texas stadium last year?
eh who knows. they had some other scandal recently solved i think? theft of money or something? i dont know.

DrEdward
04-19-2007, 11:48 PM
My original question I had was I did not believe that the slc players would work temp jobs side by side with the Trinity players then turn around and sign they paycheck over to the trinity kids so they could afford their state rings. That was what DR. Edwards had basically said had happened. Which I believe was not the case. I then joked about why SLC didn't do the same with the Cedar Hill players this year.

Another point I made is if the SLC players did donate funds to Trinity players to help pay for their rings that is a direct violation of UIL rules of players accepting monetary rewards.

I think the SLC term of "Protect the Tradition" is alive and well on this board. When I try and have a little fun and point out facts that don't get answered by Dr. Edwards who started this whole discussion about the players donating their winnings to the Trininty players I get attacked again for questioning the valaidity of his statement.


Come dragon fans have a sense of humor!! Its the off-season and theirs not a whole bunch to discuss.

By the way whatever happened concerning the lawsuit concerning the cheerleader parents altercation at Texas stadium last year?

It is clear that you are never going to believe what I stated and that's okay. I had not intended to bring it up at all, save for your implication that Carroll's players were simply given the money for their rings while Trinity kids had to work for theirs. So let's simply put aside whether Carroll helped out the Trinity players by working with them. Yet, now you state that somehow Carroll players who did work have "winnings." Again, you are free to not believe me, but your words seem to be an ongoing attempt to put down the Carroll players efforts, whether on their own behalf or in an attempt to help others. If they are not, then we can simply let it go.

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-20-2007, 01:11 AM
It is clear that you are never going to believe what I stated and that's okay. I had not intended to bring it up at all, save for your implication that Carroll's players were simply given the money for their rings while Trinity kids had to work for theirs. So let's simply put aside whether Carroll helped out the Trinity players by working with them. Yet, now you state that somehow Carroll players who did work have "winnings." Again, you are free to not believe me, but your words seem to be an ongoing attempt to put down the Carroll players efforts, whether on their own behalf or in an attempt to help others. If they are not, then we can simply let it go.

I'm sure most players parents who can afford it payed for their kids rings. Would you not agree with that statement. When I played I know the majority of my teammates did not have jobs and their parents payed for their state ring. Their is nothing wrong with that. Any state champion football player more than put in the hours and effort and time and sacrificed during the season and off season to earn $500 or so from their parents to pay for their title ring.

My whole point is I dont believe that Carrol players or any teenage highschool football player would volunteer to sign over their job paychecks to trinity players so they could pay for their rings. Again you never answered that direct point in my conversation to you and it is against UIL rules to take gifts of monetary value.

Finally, I have no doubt that Carroll respects all their opponents they play regardless of where the school is located except maybe Grapevine.

drgnbkr
04-20-2007, 12:54 PM
Failed? Sir I have not failed. I have done quite well in my endeavors. Gerald Brence is the one that has failed the Plano machine. Please direct those comments to the correct individual.

You are failing in your misdirected comments..You know nothing about the Carroll Players, and the things they do....Get back to us when you actually know something, ranther than just have an opinion to spew...We have given you newspaper articles, personal observations and you've provided squat...They're kids and far from perfect, but in this case it's true.

SLC93
04-20-2007, 02:09 PM
You are failing in your misdirected comments..You know nothing about the Carroll Players, and the things they do....Get back to us when you actually know something, ranther than just have an opinion to spew...We have given you newspaper articles, personal observations and you've provided squat...They're kids and far from perfect, but in this case it's true.

But he really doesn't believe us so that means he right.:puke Right?:D

DrEdward
04-20-2007, 04:13 PM
I'm sure most players parents who can afford it payed for their kids rings. Would you not agree with that statement. When I played I know the majority of my teammates did not have jobs and their parents payed for their state ring. Their is nothing wrong with that. Any state champion football player more than put in the hours and effort and time and sacrificed during the season and off season to earn $500 or so from their parents to pay for their title ring.

My whole point is I dont believe that Carrol players or any teenage highschool football player would volunteer to sign over their job paychecks to trinity players so they could pay for their rings. Again you never answered that direct point in my conversation to you and it is against UIL rules to take gifts of monetary value.

Finally, I have no doubt that Carroll respects all their opponents they play regardless of where the school is located except maybe Grapevine.


I have a hard time believeing the UIL would object to students athletes (or any students for that matter) working together jointly for a non-school activitiy. However, I did venture over to the UIL rules and found the following in the Parent Information Handbook:

"It would not be a violation for student athletes to raise funds for non school participation. No school funds (including booster club funds), equipment or transportation could be involved in non school activities.

The non school fundraiser could not be related to the school and the student athletes must do it all on their own or with the assistance of their parents."

However, as you don't believe it ever happened, there is nothing to worry about in any event. :D

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-20-2007, 05:08 PM
I have a hard time believeing the UIL would object to students athletes (or any students for that matter) working together jointly for a non-school activitiy. However, I did venture over to the UIL rules and found the following in the Parent Information Handbook:

"It would not be a violation for student athletes to raise funds for non school participation. No school funds (including booster club funds), equipment or transportation could be involved in non school activities.

The non school fundraiser could not be related to the school and the student athletes must do it all on their own or with the assistance of their parents."

However, as you don't believe it ever happened, there is nothing to worry about in any event. :D

Your right nothing to worry about!! However, what is the rule on accepting gifts.

PaulinPlano
04-20-2007, 05:11 PM
I think everyone understands (including PWF) the goodwill of SLC. Trinity players showed up to work in a yard in Southlake and some SLC players showed up giving a little bit of their time to help them out.

End of Story.

And the Plano Machine is far from broken.:cool:

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-20-2007, 05:16 PM
You are failing in your misdirected comments..You know nothing about the Carroll Players, and the things they do....Get back to us when you actually know something, ranther than just have an opinion to spew...We have given you newspaper articles, personal observations and you've provided squat...They're kids and far from perfect, but in this case it's true.

That's right I know nothing about those particular Carroll players of today but I know alot about 17 and 18 year old kids act and what its like to grow up in that type of enviroment and win a state championship with a legendary coach at the helm and the expectations that go along with all that. Plano in the 80's is no different than Carroll is now.

Plano Wildcat Fan
04-20-2007, 05:17 PM
I think everyone understands (including PWF) the goodwill of SLC. Trinity players showed up to work in a yard in Southlake and some SLC players showed up givining a little bit of their time to help them out.

End of Story.

And the Plano Machine is far from broken.:cool:

Your right its time for the end of the story. However, the Plano Machine is broken and won't be fixed until GB is Goodbye.

SLC93
04-20-2007, 09:14 PM
I think everyone understands (including PWF) the goodwill of SLC. Trinity players showed up to work in a yard in Southlake and some SLC players showed up giving a little bit of their time to help them out.

End of Story.

And the Plano Machine is far from broken.:cool:

Quick question for you on an unrelated matter. Former SLC HC Tom Rapp is now at Plano East. Did he fill your DC position or just a positional job?