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CoveFan05
09-14-2005, 10:36 PM
Now through the first 2 or 3 games is Cove now the outright favorite. Of course 5atexasfootball picked Cove to win, but the AP said Waco was the favorite. Well Cove is 3-0 and Waco is 0-3. Take your pic or order the district.

1. Copperas Cove (7-0)--Deep run, lookin' at the Semi's
2. A&M Consolidated(5-2)--Get's passed the Woodlands, maybe one more
3. Killeen Shoemaker(5-2)--The suprise, drops first round
4. Waco(4-3)--Loses to Cove, AMC and Shoemaker
5. Belton(3-4)--not the bottom feeder this year
6. Harker Heights(3-4)--enough said
7. Bryan(3-4)--was a contender early, dead in the long run
8. Temple(0-7)--only plays Belton tough due to the rivalry

LeanderLions3033
09-14-2005, 11:06 PM
1. Cove (yall seem to be solid this year)
2. A&M Consol (I think they'll only lose to cove in district play)
3. Bryan (like last year i think alot of people will be tied for 3rd place and this is my pick for 3rd place. Although we were up 21-0 at one point their rb is solid and you can drive a bus through that line. They'll be good for some wins and i think they will knock off Shoemaker, Belton, Harker Heights, and Waco.....and temple obviously)

FootballJunkie
09-15-2005, 07:10 AM
Now through the first 2 or 3 games is Cove now the outright favorite. Of course 5atexasfootball picked Cove to win, but the AP said Waco was the favorite. Well Cove is 3-0 and Waco is 0-3. Take your pic or order the district.

1. Copperas Cove (7-0)--Deep run, lookin' at the Semi's
2. A&M Consolidated(5-2)--Get's passed the Woodlands, maybe one more
3. Killeen Shoemaker(5-2)--The suprise, drops first round
4. Waco(4-3)--Loses to Cove, AMC and Shoemaker
5. Belton(3-4)--not the bottom feeder this year
6. Harker Heights(3-4)--enough said
7. Bryan(3-4)--was a contender early, dead in the long run
8. Temple(0-7)--only plays Belton tough due to the rivalry

I agree with your number one and two pick, but Shoemaker's defense is really suspect. They have given up over 800 yards of offense 500 of that rushing including Killeen (Ellison) in 2 games. I think 3rd will be whoever plays better defense and that would eliminate Shoemaker. I do like their QB though.

CoveFan05
09-15-2005, 09:59 AM
I agree with your number one and two pick, but Shoemaker's defense is really suspect. They have given up over 800 yards of offense 500 of that rushing including Killeen (Ellison) in 2 games. I think 3rd will be whoever plays better defense and that would eliminate Shoemaker. I do like their QB though.

I think they'll step it up just enough to claim the third spot. The offense has the power to put up 30 or 40 points against any team in the district. I don't see Waco getting in this year. They say defense wins championships, but you gotta score to win.. By far Cove is the best looking team putting up 33 a game and allowing just 11 with a shutout. The only close game is AMC and Cove take it by 10 again.

FootballJunkie
09-15-2005, 10:16 AM
I think they'll step it up just enough to claim the third spot. The offense has the power to put up 30 or 40 points against any team in the district. I don't see Waco getting in this year. They say defense wins championships, but you gotta score to win.. By far Cove is the best looking team putting up 33 a game and allowing just 11 with a shutout. The only close game is AMC and Cove take it by 10 again.
It was easy for their offense to put up big numbers against 2 winless teams. They won't score that many against a good team. What is the point of scoring 30 points when you give up 40 anyway. Not to say they are a bad team, they first have to beat a good team and second sure up the D before they will be a playoff team.

gutbuster
09-15-2005, 10:28 AM
I think this may be the most interesting district race from week to week unless a team is playing Cove.

Eaglewatcher
09-15-2005, 10:49 AM
Abilene High has Belton this week in Belton. I see that Belton has won their first two games. What does anyone out there know about Belton and what we can expect to see from them this week. I hear their running back has been putting up some good numbers, but I don't know anything about the competition that it was against. Also what about their defense?

FootballJunkie
09-15-2005, 11:09 AM
Abilene High has Belton this week in Belton. I see that Belton has won their first two games. What does anyone out there know about Belton and what we can expect to see from them this week. I hear their running back has been putting up some good numbers, but I don't know anything about the competition that it was against. Also what about their defense?
They have 2 come from behind victories this year after going 0-10 last year. The 2 teams they beat this year are a combined 1-4 this year and were sub .500 last year. The Belton running back has over 500 yards in the first 2 games. Paper's in Belton are trying to compare him to Ramonce Taylor but that remains to be seen.

supercentex
09-15-2005, 11:47 AM
Abilene High has Belton this week in Belton. I see that Belton has won their first two games. What does anyone out there know about Belton and what we can expect to see from them this week. I hear their running back has been putting up some good numbers, but I don't know anything about the competition that it was against. Also what about their defense?

Belton is pretty tough this year............I think they will put up a good fight against Abilene this year....especially since the game is in Belton. Should be a pretty good crowd.

This is a story on the running back from Belton....

Belton running back shrugs off comparison to Taylor

The Associated Press

Good as Belton's Quincy Daniels has become, he'll never be Ramonce Taylor.

Which is entirely intentional.

After rushing for 515 yards and nine touchdowns in just two games, Daniels understands why so many reflexively link him to his predecessor. Especially since it was only two season ago that Taylor — now a prominent tailback and kick returner for Texas — carried Belton to the playoffs with similarly staggering numbers.

Both make dazzling runs. Both break tackles. Both make games winnable.

But as far as Daniels is concerned, that's where the similarities end.

"I think it's funny how people compare us all the time," said Daniels, who rushed for 306 yards in Belton's opener against Bastrop. "We're two totally different people."

Daniels says this with the annoyance of a twin tired of hearing how he's just like his brother. From the bleachers, Daniels concedes he and Taylor may look identical enough. But perhaps more than his goal of reaching 1,000 yards — a mark he's already halfway toward after just two games — Daniels hopes people realize the distinctions.

Taylor, who rushed for 2,370 yards and 28 touchdowns for Belton in 2003, was more brash, more vocal, more conspicuous.

Daniels prefers anonymity — at least however much he's now afforded after two breakout games. Coach Jay Warrick insists he's one of his quietest players. Daniels won the junior class presidency last year, despite his reluctance to speak in front of people.

"I don't have any more moves than I had a year ago," Daniels said. "Maybe I'm a little quicker. Really, I think the difference is I have so much confidence in my offensive line. They've improved a lot."

Warrick agrees. The first year of the post-Taylor era was unkind to Belton, which went 0-10 last season after Taylor led the Tigers to the playoffs in 2003.

Warrick said experience this year has made all the difference.

"Oh, gosh no, you never expect it's going to be like that," Warrick said of last season. "...Coming off that season there was a tremendous motivation not to do it again."

Belton (2-0) played its first two games on the road, rallying to win both. Friday, the Tigers play their first home game against Abilene (3-0), ranked No. 9 in The Associated Press Class 5A poll.

Belton, which shares its field with Mary Hardin-Baylor's Division III football team, just finished installing synthetic turf in its stadium after decades of playing on grass. The schools split the cost for the new field, and both figure to enjoy the faster surface.

Not that Daniels needed the help.

"When we got down last year, it was almost like we knew we couldn't come back," Daniels said. "We got some extra 'oomph' now."

bullrock
09-15-2005, 12:48 PM
I want to say something and I don't want anyone to take it out of context. Everybody wants to know what separates the great programs from the ones who haven't quite got there yet. I'm sure the Katy's, SLC's, possibly the Lufkin's, and the LSWC teams of the past can relate to what I am going to say. Notice the opening post in this thread. Now, look where Cove puts his team. He puts them at #1 and I'm sure that's where they belong. I'm not really that familiar with the district. But, why does he only predict the semi's?? That is a great run, but I'll guarantee you this, if you talk about this same thread in one of the districts of the teams I mentioned above, you wouldn't see "the semi's" even mentioned. It would say state champion. Maybe that's because we have all gotten a little spoiled?? I prefer to say we all have higher expectations. Again, this is not a diss post, just my observation.

lonny23
09-15-2005, 12:54 PM
I want to say something and I don't want anyone to take it out of context. Everybody wants to know what separates the great programs from the ones who haven't quite got there yet. I'm sure the Katy's, SLC's, possibly the Lufkin's, and the LSWC teams of the past can relate to what I am going to say. Notice the opening post in this thread. Now, look where Cove puts his team. He puts them at #1 and I'm sure that's where they belong. I'm not really that familiar with the district. But, why does he only predict the semi's?? That is a great run, but I'll guarantee you this, if you talk about this same thread in one of the districts of the teams I mentioned above, you wouldn't see "the semi's" even mentioned. It would say state champion. Maybe that's because we have all gotten a little spoiled?? I prefer to say we all have higher expectations. Again, this is not a diss post, just my observation.
You're right we get spoiled. The semis are the minimum for Judson and then when they get beat in that round, I'm mad they didn't win state.

supercentex
09-15-2005, 01:00 PM
I want to say something and I don't want anyone to take it out of context. Everybody wants to know what separates the great programs from the ones who haven't quite got there yet. I'm sure the Katy's, SLC's, possibly the Lufkin's, and the LSWC teams of the past can relate to what I am going to say. Notice the opening post in this thread. Now, look where Cove puts his team. He puts them at #1 and I'm sure that's where they belong. I'm not really that familiar with the district. But, why does he only predict the semi's?? That is a great run, but I'll guarantee you this, if you talk about this same thread in one of the districts of the teams I mentioned above, you wouldn't see "the semi's" even mentioned. It would say state champion. Maybe that's because we have all gotten a little spoiled?? I prefer to say we all have higher expectations. Again, this is not a diss post, just my observation.

It's because they usually falter in the playoffs by the 2nd round. But, this year I would not be surprised to see them break through to the other side. They are going to be that good if everyone is healthy.

toonman
09-15-2005, 01:14 PM
Cove was solid team last year and will have another great season this year. I take Cove to win D13 and go far in the paly-offs.

CoveFan05
09-15-2005, 01:42 PM
I want to say something and I don't want anyone to take it out of context. Everybody wants to know what separates the great programs from the ones who haven't quite got there yet. I'm sure the Katy's, SLC's, possibly the Lufkin's, and the LSWC teams of the past can relate to what I am going to say. Notice the opening post in this thread. Now, look where Cove puts his team. He puts them at #1 and I'm sure that's where they belong. I'm not really that familiar with the district. But, why does he only predict the semi's?? That is a great run, but I'll guarantee you this, if you talk about this same thread in one of the districts of the teams I mentioned above, you wouldn't see "the semi's" even mentioned. It would say state champion. Maybe that's because we have all gotten a little spoiled?? I prefer to say we all have higher expectations. Again, this is not a diss post, just my observation.

Im making predictions bro...I would love to see my team in the state championship but if i put n e thing like that people will start saying Cove has no chance.Your right your not familar with Cove so don't worry about them

supercentex
09-15-2005, 04:42 PM
I would love to see Copperas Cove play Lufkin in the first round.

FootballJunkie
09-15-2005, 04:46 PM
I would love to see Copperas Cove play Lufkin in the first round.
Won't happen unless one of them does not win their district which is unlikely. Second round perhaps.

supercentex
09-15-2005, 04:52 PM
Won't happen unless one of them does not win their district which is unlikely. Second round perhaps.

No, if not in first round it wouldn't be until the quarters......3rd round.


Only hope is if A&M Consolidated goes undefeated in district...or something screwy happens.....U never know in this district.


But Lufkin would more than likely win their district....it would be a long shot....Cove would have to take the lower seed. 3rd place in district for the match-up to happen.

But, say if it were....Bryan (3rd place), A&M (1st), Cove (2nd)....Bryan would go D-1....A&M would get lower seed in 14-5A..........Cove would get Lufkin (higher seed)

So, there is a chance.......

FootballJunkie
09-15-2005, 04:54 PM
No, if not in first round it wouldn't be until the quarters......3rd round.
I thought it was district winner VS district runner-up in first round??? :confused:
I don't know for sure perhaps you are right.

BhighBigJuicy72
09-24-2005, 04:38 PM
I dont see how you think belton isnt going to be further up. I think itll be Cove and belton battling for the District champ on the last game of the season, since we play each other. Im not impressed with anyone else in district besides cove, who nearly lost friday however, to heights.

FootballJunkie
09-25-2005, 01:13 AM
I dont see how you think belton isnt going to be further up. I think itll be Cove and belton battling for the District champ on the last game of the season, since we play each other. Im not impressed with anyone else in district besides cove, who nearly lost friday however, to heights.

Cove is the odds on favorite to win and friday showed every team will play above themselve when they play Cove. Until AMC loses I think they are second best. Waco is worse than I thought, they may only beat Temple this year. Shoemakers offense is impressive but defense is shaky. Heights played inspired this week but they will lose to AMC and Shoemaker. Belton is the questionmark. Will see how they do as season goes on. They played Abilene very well don't know if it was because Abilene is not that good or Belton is a lot better than everyone thought. Bryan may be a little down this year and Temple well...

supercentex
09-25-2005, 01:36 AM
Waco took out Shoemakers leading rusher....Poullard out...........so, they will be without him for a little bit...or he wont' be at 100 percent.

FootballJunkie
09-25-2005, 01:48 AM
Waco took out Shoemakers leading rusher....Poullard out...........so, they will be without him for a little bit...or he wont' be at 100 percent.

That may shake things up a little. More weight on their (Shoemakers) QB's shoulders. He is pretty good will see how he and the team respond in their crosstown rivalry game with Heights on Friday. Still picking Shoemaker to win it though.

supercentex
09-25-2005, 02:07 AM
Nah Heights will win that one..............What Waco did wrong was they didn't rush the ball like they used to do. On both 1st and goals Waco had.....on every down..they tried to pass...ended up having to kick FG's.....we've never done that. We've always just rushed the ball down your throat. Shoemaker's DB's are good...but their run defense is horrible.......Cove, A&M, Harker is going to eat that D up.

DawgsFanForLife
09-25-2005, 09:42 PM
If Heights comes out like they did against Cove they will win. I would love nothing better than to see Shoe spank Heights. They have a couple fans that just rub me the wrong way so lets go Shoe.

Tiger Dude
09-26-2005, 07:13 AM
Not sure how the rest of district willl play out, but I boldly predict that consol takes cove at home near the end of the season. Then consol has to face an emotional letdown and try to get it together on a short week against bryan on a thursday night and has its hands full.

Just my prediction. Lots can and will happen.

FootballJunkie
09-26-2005, 07:16 AM
Not sure how the rest of district willl play out, but I boldly predict that consol takes cove at home near the end of the season. Then consol has to face an emotional letdown and try to get it together on a short week against bryan on a thursday night and has its hands full.

Just my prediction. Lots can and will happen.

That's real bold!! What do you base that on. Wishful thinking??

Tiger Dude
09-26-2005, 09:42 AM
That's real bold!! What do you base that on. Wishful thinking??


Perhaps, perhaps. But, I am basing a lot of this on what I am seeing in terms of adjustments, improvements and team chemistry in Consol practices. I think Cove will most likely show up with no losses that week. It's hard to go into Game 9 or 10 as an undefeated. Target on the back and all that. I'd call it a toss up, edge going to Consol for playing the game in Tigerland.

Defensive secondary has gained some ground after getting caught out of position nearly all game against Westlake. I'm also eager to see if the senior kid from New Orleans can work his way into the starting secondary. I think that Westlake loss could be the best thing that ends up happening to us. After watching a lot of practices, I doubt they'll get burned that badly again. No more practicing against the JV. Weaknesses were exposed, actions taken to correct them. Offensive line is way stronger than I expected this early into the season and they just keep getting better. The QB situation seems to have worked itself out.

So, there are lots of reasons to think what I'm thinking. Cove is still #1 until they get beat. I like going into that game as the underdog. Lots of teams will be taking us a lot lighter after that Westlake game. Even though the coaches won't, a lot of players will.

What really has me worriied the most is this Temple game tonight. Screwing up everyone's schedule takes us out of a rhythm. Temple has the advantage I think because they were in a funk. This extra few days of practice might have helped them.

Ain't HS football fun? :)

:cool:

CoveFan05
09-26-2005, 10:53 AM
Like I have said before in other threads if you can beat quality teams while playin below 50% of your capabilities you are a very good team. And look Cove has done it twice this season. Judson and Heights(people think they arent any good). This shows something, as in if we play our best or even decent we will wax this district. Are running triple threat of Buckram, Garner and Milsap is just to good. Like against Heights they shut down Milsap and Buchram, and who ran for 150 yards an 2 tds, Garner!!!

FootballJunkie
09-26-2005, 11:01 AM
Like I have said before in other threads if you can beat quality teams while playin below 50% of your capabilities you are a very good team. And look Cove has done it twice this season. Judson and Heights(people think they arent any good). This shows something, as in if we play our best or even decent we will wax this district. Are running triple threat of Buckram, Garner and Milsap is just to good. Like against Heights they shut down Milsap and Buchram, and who ran for 150 yards an 2 tds, Garner!!!

I agree with you on what you are saying except that I think it was more of Height just playing the best they could as opposed to them being really good. I will admit I have a dislike for them so maybe that is clouding my judgment but I am just not impressed with them.

CoveFan05
09-26-2005, 02:59 PM
Harker Heights might be OK enough to make the playoffs. Waco is gone, shoemaker is an iffy with the d. Belton is another team in the mix. Cove and AMC are already in i believe