Boerne-SA MacArthur

[DiamondJ2]

May be a close game. Mac is on a roll, but Boerne just beat a decent, inexperienced O'Connor team like a drum. The loss to WF may have been a blessing in disguise for the Greyhounds.

[RedRage00]

I hope Mac pulls it off!!!

[mad_fan]

ya, like it'll do a couple of 5a lubbock teams good :rolleyes:

hoping for a boerne win.

[TheProphet]

Hey Boerne fans, tell me how good Hunter Laurence is. Because hes going to UT next year and i cant find any video on him. thanks

[mad_fan]

Friday night, right? Did I read here that its Boerne's homecoming? wonder if a guy going to SA (down I-10) can get in?

[TexasRed6x]

I will go with Boerne on this ine, just to much for Mac. I feel that Mac has done a good job but I would not get to excited for them yet, they have not played any powerhouse's and then thats when you will see the true Mac.

[Reaganrattler07]

I will go with Boerne on this ine, just to much for Mac. I feel that Mac has done a good job but I would not get to excited for them yet, they have not played any powerhouse's and then thats when you will see the true Mac.

I believe that your right on this one....

[clemensbuff]

May be a close game. Mac is on a roll, but Boerne just beat a decent, inexperienced O'Connor team like a drum. The loss to WF may have been a blessing in disguise for the Greyhounds.

I think you are exactly right about the loss to WF. This opening loss probably opened their eyes a whole bunch and they won't take anyone lightly from here out. I look for Boerne to make a pretty good run in the playoffs again this year and possibly play for the title.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Ok, have to put my 2 cents in. Since I follow Mac better then anyone here on the board I'll let you know what I think.

This will be Mac's biggest test. Boerne has a front O-Line that averages 265. They will try to run it at you all night and then pop one over the top when you pinch in on the line of scrimmage. I went and watched the Boerne/O'Conner games and Boerne ran it down O'Conner's throat. Once O'Conner came up to the line of scrimmage, Boerne threw over it. Defensively Boerne is good but not great. They are good against the run but had a lot of wholes in the secondary all night. O'Conner just had no passing game and their running game was average at best.

Friendship tore them up through the air and on play action. Offensively this is where Mac's strength is. Each game Mac is getting better at running the new offense (spread 4 and 5 wide). they also have a much improved RB in Jonathan Craig. Mac has also had two weeks to get ready for Boerne. Defensively Mac will keep Boerne in check. They won't shut them down but they won't let them control the game either.

If Mac's passing game is good, not great....Mac will win this game. If they can't get the passing game going, then Boerne will have the advantage.

I honestly like Mac this week ( Mac 30 Boerne 19). Won't be easy but I think after this game everyone will see what I've been saying. Mac is much improved and they will challenge for one of the playoff spots this year in 265a.

[bubbacoach]

Having seen both teams play Boerne 35 MacArthur 14. Mac is no different than the last few years.

[clemensbuff]

Ok, have to put my 2 cents in. Since I follow Mac better then anyone here on the board I'll let you know what I think.

This will be Mac's biggest test. Boerne has a front O-Line that averages 265. They will try to run it at you all night and then pop one over the top when you pinch in on the line of scrimmage. I went and watched the Boerne/O'Conner games and Boerne ran it down O'Conner's throat. Once O'Conner came up to the line of scrimmage, Boerne threw over it. Defensively Boerne is good but not great. They are good against the run but had a lot of wholes in the secondary all night. O'Conner just had no passing game and their running game was average at best.

Friendship tore them up through the air and on play action. Offensively this is where Mac's strength is. Each game Mac is getting better at running the new offense (spread 4 and 5 wide). they also have a much improved RB in Jonathan Craig. Mac has also had two weeks to get ready for Boerne. Defensively Mac will keep Boerne in check. They won't shut them down but they won't let them control the game either.

If Mac's passing game is good, not great....Mac will win this game. If they can't get the passing game going, then Boerne will have the advantage.

I honestly like Mac this week ( Mac 30 Boerne 19). Won't be easy but I think after this game everyone will see what I've been saying. Mac is much improved and they will challenge for one of the playoff spots this year in 265a.

I agree with you that Mac could challenge for a playoff spot in 26-5a this year. But, it will be for the third place spot because I don't see them having enough to beat Judson or SV this year. As for beating Boerne, I think your opinion is pretty acurate on what it will take except Mac's passing game will have to be better then just good to do it. I also think that if Mac cannot get the running game going against Boerne's defense they will not see much success through the air! It should be a good game! Good luck to both teams.

[bubbacoach]

There is no chance at all that Mac will be competing for a play-off spot in 26-5A. With Smithson Valley, Judson, Madison, Roosevelt, and Reagan in the district Mac has no chance. In fact Mac will lose to everyone of the teams I listed. I am not saying this because I am anti Mac. ( I have good friends that coach at Mac) I am just a realist.

[jrdaniel]

Does anyone else get a chuckle every time they see "Boerne-Mac"?

[lonny23]

I'm guessing Boerne wins. Mac seems to do well in non-district against chumps and then fade. Boerne keeps getting bigger and will probably be 5A next year.

[RedRage00]

Does anyone else get a chuckle every time they see "Boerne-Mac"?

LOL :D That is funny!

[Reaganrattler07]

Haha, I saw that "Boerne Mac" in computer class....

But I think Lonny was onto something there.

[Reaganrattler07]

However, if Mac does win, I still don't see how they'll be a team to be reckoned with...my reasonging? Here it is:

Clark: Lost their best offensive player-J. Wilkerson (one of the best RB's in SA)

Taft: .....couldn't fight their way outta a paper bag.

Boerne: 4A, and beat (according to the paper) a young O'connor team "experimenting" with things...

[Gridiron Gopher]

Guys, I've had the time to watch 265a football for the last 4 years and since I have followed Mac those last 4 years I feel I have a good idea of how this team compares to the teams of the last 4 years. THERE IS NO COMPARISON!
The team is much faster and quicker and yes there is a difference in the two. This is by far their best defense and with the new offense they will be better there too. If you have watched Mac in the past, you know that offensively they have been average to horrible. The running game was no where to be found and the passing game was only used when they were 20 points down. Defensively they played hard but just didn't play as a team.
That's where this team is different. They play as a team! Offensively, they will pass, pass and pass some more. They will run only off the pass. This is probably not what Fuschak likes to do but it's working and getting better each week they hit the field.
For Mac to win this week, they'll have to throw on Boerne. That's where Boerne's weakness is. Mac will also have to play solid defense. They cant let Boerne run the clock out like they did against O'Conner. Mac won't be able to play smash mouth football against Boerne. They are too big. Mac will have to use their quickness and speed. This is the same way Friendship beat Boerne.

And finally, yes they will compete for a playoff spot. You can throw Madison, Roosevelt, Reagan, Churchill (yes Churchill) and Mac in a hat and pull one out and that might be your 3rd playoff team.

Let's see how the game comes out and then we can go from there. :)

[Bucky]

Boerne by 14. Mac might be better but they are not good!

[bubbacoach]

The speed and quickness that Mac has this year may be better than what it was in years past, but it does not compare to the speed and quickness of Judson, Smithson Valley, Roosevelt, and Madison. Let's be truthful if Mac is anything they are a very average team as far as quickness and speed go.

[mad_fan]

The speed and quickness that Mac has this year may be better than what it was in years past, but it does not compare to the speed and quickness of Judson, Smithson Valley, Roosevelt, and Madison. Let's be truthful if Mac is anything they are a very average team as far as quickness and speed go.


Still would not bet they lose every district game. Madison has a time with Mac at the end of the season, especially after Judson and SV.

[bubbacoach]

No I do not think they will lose every district game. They will have a chance against Lee and Churchill

[JC73]

Still would not bet they lose every district game. Madison has a time with Mac at the end of the season, especially after Judson and SV.

SV had a very hard time with Mac last year. I think they have a very good chance against Boerne. They may be this year's sleeper.

[mad_fan]

No I do not think they will lose every district game. They will have a chance against Lee and Churchill

my bad, buddacoach...that belonged to someone else. :D

[bubbacoach]

In 26-5A there is definetly two tiers of Programs at this time. And when I say programs I mean Programs that do it year in and year out. Where a team can sneak up on you one year after being bad and then be bad again after a couple of years again. Judson, Smithson, and Madison have been good consistently over the last 10 years. Roosevelt will have a good run more often than not. (They should every year with the athletes they have. Discipline?) Churchill, Reagan, Mac have about the same caliber of athletes as each other, but either their system or style do not fit the type of asthlete's they have. Lee, well you know. Athletically, Judson is at the top followed in this order Roosevelt, Madison, SV, Churchill, Reagan, Mac, Lee. This pretty much holds true year in and year out. So for Mac to stand a chance they will need to improve greatly to compete for a spot in 26-5A

[Gridiron Gopher]

Bubbacoach, what you are forgetting about the talent level is that it has not been the same for Mac since Reagan opened up. Churchill and Mac both lost a lot of talent to Reagan. New neighborhoods have developed over the last 10 years just inside 1604 in Churchill and Mac's districts and now they are starting to see some of those athletes. The pool of athelets coming form Driscoll and Bradley is much better due to those new neighborhoods. Those kids are now getting into the high school level and this is why both of those schools as well as Reagan are now starting to see their programs get better. Will they get to SV and Judson's level? Maybe not but SV and Judson will feel the pinch of new schools in their districts. It's a numbers game and that's the way it is. Heck, even Madison is feeling a little of it.
Driscoll, Bradley and Bush have been the dominate Jr High schools in our area and the core of those kids are going to Churchill, Reagan and Mac. Three years ago a normal graduating class from Bradley had 40% of their athletes go to Churchill, another 40% go to Reagan and the other 20% went to Mac. The last two years it's been even.
Maybe if they beat Boerne you'll give them a little credit. I doubt it though.

[Reaganrattler07]

Bubbacoach, what you are forgetting about the talent level is that it has not been the same for Mac since Reagan opened up. Churchill and Mac both lost a lot of talent to Reagan. New neighborhoods have developed over the last 10 years just inside 1604 in Churchill and Mac's districts and now they are starting to see some of those athletes. The pool of athelets coming form Driscoll and Bradley is much better due to those new neighborhoods. Those kids are now getting into the high school level and this is why both of those schools as well as Reagan are now starting to see their programs get better. Will they get to SV and Judson's level? Maybe not but SV and Judson will feel the pinch of new schools in their districts. It's a numbers game and that's the way it is. Heck, even Madison is feeling a little of it.
Driscoll, Bradley and Bush have been the dominate Jr High schools in our area and the core of those kids are going to Churchill, Reagan and Mac. Three years ago a normal graduating class from Bradley had 40% of their athletes go to Churchill, another 40% go to Reagan and the other 20% went to Mac. The last two years it's been even.
Maybe if they beat Boerne you'll give them a little credit. I doubt it though.

I probably wouldn't give them credit. Thing aboutMac fans is when they get on a little stroll, they start saying they're on top ofthe world yada yada yada...I've kept quiet about Reagan. and all the other schools (minus maybe SV) have kept quiet as well. Reagan's main power is the students. They were brought up well with good values and like to get what they want...and they want to win. Now, they don't always win and I'm not saying that other students are any less BUT Reagan kids are brought up to be successful by succesful parents does that mean all the other parents at other kids are NOT succesful? NO.

[Reaganrattler07]

In 26-5A there is definetly two tiers of Programs at this time. And when I say programs I mean Programs that do it year in and year out. Where a team can sneak up on you one year after being bad and then be bad again after a couple of years again. Judson, Smithson, and Madison have been good consistently over the last 10 years. Roosevelt will have a good run more often than not. (They should every year with the athletes they have. Discipline?) Churchill, Reagan, Mac have about the same caliber of athletes as each other, but either their system or style do not fit the type of asthlete's they have. Lee, well you know. Athletically, Judson is at the top followed in this order Roosevelt, Madison, SV, Churchill, Reagan, Mac, Lee. This pretty much holds true year in and year out. So for Mac to stand a chance they will need to improve greatly to compete for a spot in 26-5A

I like the way you think, bubba

[Bucky]

Bubbacoach, what you are forgetting about the talent level is that it has not been the same for Mac since Reagan opened up. Churchill and Mac both lost a lot of talent to Reagan. New neighborhoods have developed over the last 10 years just inside 1604 in Churchill and Mac's districts and now they are starting to see some of those athletes. The pool of athelets coming form Driscoll and Bradley is much better due to those new neighborhoods. Those kids are now getting into the high school level and this is why both of those schools as well as Reagan are now starting to see their programs get better. Will they get to SV and Judson's level? Maybe not but SV and Judson will feel the pinch of new schools in their districts. It's a numbers game and that's the way it is. Heck, even Madison is feeling a little of it.
Driscoll, Bradley and Bush have been the dominate Jr High schools in our area and the core of those kids are going to Churchill, Reagan and Mac. Three years ago a normal graduating class from Bradley had 40% of their athletes go to Churchill, another 40% go to Reagan and the other 20% went to Mac. The last two years it's been even.
Maybe if they beat Boerne you'll give them a little credit. I doubt it though.

In the past 5 years..How many JV and Freshmen games has Mac won? I'm sure that if Mac beats boerne..we will all give them a little more credit. But thats not gonna help them in 26-5A. Mac is a must win for Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt, and Madison. They are all fighting for the 3rd playoff spot..(If Judson and SV play to what they have done in the past) If Mac can pull it off..more power to them..I wish them all the best.. But Judson is the KING of that district and SV is knocking on the door!!!

[mad_fan]

In the past 5 years..How many JV and Freshmen games has Mac won? I'm sure that if Mac beats boerne..we will all give them a little more credit. But thats not gonna help them in 26-5A. Mac is a must win for Churchill, Reagan, Roosevelt, and Madison. They are all fighting for the 3rd playoff spot..(If Judson and SV play to what they have done in the past) If Mac can pull it off..more power to them..I wish them all the best.. But Judson is the KING of that district and SV is knocking on the door!!!

and Louis XVI WAS KING of France... :D

[Bucky]

and Louis XVI WAS KING of France... :D

Read it again...Judson IS king of 26-5A. not WAS..IS

[mad_fan]

Read it again...Judson IS king of 26-5A. not WAS..IS

i read it correctly...in 1793 louis xvi was saying i am KING...1794, not so much...

KING? british rules football? district champions...yes. KING...BS.

[Reaganrattler07]

Judson is King, they have dominated 26-5A for many years.

They are King until someone beats them.

[DiamondJ2]

Maybe Mac is legit. WTG 26-5A.

[Reaganrattler07]

Maybe Mac is legit. WTG 26-5A.

Don't get too excited. They may go 2-0 in opening district. But those are against two weak teams.

[RedRage00]

Don't get too excited. They may go 2-0 in opening district. But those are against two weak teams.

Why are you hatin' on Mac redskins???? lol

They obviously did a whole lot better than Reagan tonight ;)

RR

[Gridiron Gopher]

How about the those Mac kids. Very hard hitting game and it went about like I thought it would. Mac was able to throw on Boerne. Boerne was able to run a little on Mac. After the first series by Boerne (which they marched down the field and score) Mac played very solid on defense. Both of Boerne's next scores were set up by a muffed punt return and a snap over the punters head. While Mac's offense wasn't perfect (too many false starts) they were good. The passing game is getting better each week and they had a lot of success through the air. Jonathan Craig had another unbelivable TD from about 60yds out. Both teams played very hard but in the end it was Mac's defense that won this game.

[mad_fan]

good pick gopher, a lot of heads will be turning macs direction. :)

[Gridiron Gopher]

Thanks Mad Fan. I think everyone knows that SV and Judson are the top dogs in 265a but this group of kids are playing their butts off. Now they need to keep it up in the district games. Every week will be a battle and this team will show up to play. Hopefully they can keep it going.

[mad_fan]

Thanks Mad Fan. I think everyone knows that SV and Judson are the top dogs in 265a but this group of kids are playing their butts off. Now they need to keep it up in the district games. Every week will be a battle and this team will show up to play. Hopefully they can keep it going.

well, hopefully they keep it going until their LAST district game :D , I cant stand another year end like last...judson...sv...mac...

[Gridiron Gopher]

I don't think Mac will be able to surprise Madison like last year. Hopefully for both teams that game will mean something.

[mad_fan]

I don't think Mac will be able to surprise Madison like last year. Hopefully for both teams that game will mean something.

ya, like the difference b/t 2nd and 3rd in the district. :D :D

[Gridiron Gopher]

I'm liking those thoughts. :)

[clemensbuff]

WAY TO GO MAC! Good win against a good 4a team in their stadium!!

[Reaganrattler07]

Why are you hatin' on Mac redskins???? lol

They obviously did a whole lot better than Reagan tonight ;)

RR

Have you read any of my past posts? Reagan's football "team" wasn't a team last night, more like a bunch of.....lets just say they played pathetic. And I don't like Mac because of reasons that will remain confidential.

[Reaganrattler07]

WAY TO GO MAC! Good win against a good 4a team in their stadium!!

Were you being sarcastic?

[clemensbuff]

Were you being sarcastic?

Not in any way sarcastic. I still think that Boerne has a good team and will make some noise in the playoffs if they build on the couple of early non-district losses they have had. It could go the opposite way and they go to Hell in a hand basket. I hope they build on it and do well this year. As for Mac, just keep it up and they could see some playoff action as well. The really bad thing about them is that one off night and they lose to the wrong team and their playoff hopes are over. You can't slip in 26-5a or your done!

[Bucky]

Congrats to Mac. Nice win for kids and coaches. I hope they can continue to play well. I truely hope they can compete for a playoff spot. It will make 26-5A that much better!! Good Luck next week!!

[Reaganrattler07]

Next week and the week after should be pushovers for Mac

[bubbacoach]

Just dropping a thread to say I was wrong, I guess Mac did stand a chance. I guess that just tells me what the talent level in San Antonio Area is like this year. Congrads to Mac on your win over Boerne, but your still not getting ou of 26-5A

[Gridiron Gopher]

bubbacoach, I don't know why you have such a dis-like for Mac but so be it. The fact remains that Mac will play for one of the playoff spots for this district. None of the teams (Roosevelt, Madison, Reagan, Churchill or Lee) have anything on Mac. Players change each year and this group of kids are getting their chance. They've all come from winning Jr High and JV programs and now they get their chance to win at the Varsity level. Remember too that the JV team last year which has a good core of players on this team kicked all those teams butt last year. Add in the core that's there already, Udell, Schmidt, Craig, Richards, Odom, Westbrook and Shraim (that's just the offense) and this team is as good as any of them if not better. The defense as proven that they can play with anyone and stop a team when it counts the most. The teams in the past few years couldn't do that. Again, this is a new year with some new players to prove what they can do.
If you think they're not that good, then tell us why? I dont' want to hear that they'll fold just like they always have. That's old stories from old teams. This group is a new team that knows how to win and their showing it where it counts...on the field and scoreboard.
Also, it's crap that just because they are doing good that the talent in SA must be down. That's showing no respect for all the good teams in SA.
Grow up and give a team credit.

[bubbacoach]

Gopher, I watched Mac vs. Clark and I saw nothing from either team that even made me think that either team was a contender. I honestly did not feel that they or Clark were worth a damn. As far as the J.V. thing are you talking about J.V. ( The varsity scout teams) Get real.

[Bucky]

bubbacoach, I don't know why you have such a dis-like for Mac but so be it. The fact remains that Mac will play for one of the playoff spots for this district. None of the teams (Roosevelt, Madison, Reagan, Churchill or Lee) have anything on Mac. Players change each year and this group of kids are getting their chance. They've all come from winning Jr High and JV programs and now they get their chance to win at the Varsity level. Remember too that the JV team last year which has a good core of players on this team kicked all those teams butt last year. Add in the core that's there already, Udell, Schmidt, Craig, Richards, Odom, Westbrook and Shraim (that's just the offense) and this team is as good as any of them if not better. The defense as proven that they can play with anyone and stop a team when it counts the most. The teams in the past few years couldn't do that. Again, this is a new year with some new players to prove what they can do.
If you think they're not that good, then tell us why? I dont' want to hear that they'll fold just like they always have. That's old stories from old teams. This group is a new team that knows how to win and their showing it where it counts...on the field and scoreboard.
Also, it's crap that just because they are doing good that the talent in SA must be down. That's showing no respect for all the good teams in SA.
Grow up and give a team credit.

I have a few issues here. First of all ..the "grow up and give a team credit" line is not necessary. Look back..."props to mac" would mean that bubba, here, is giving them credit.

next... "The defense as proven that they can play with anyone and stop a team when it counts the most. " I dont think beating Clark and Boerne has proven that they can play with anyone...IN anyone are you refering to SV and Judson? Only time will tell if they can do that.

Bubba is stating his opinion as are you. They are different..thats it. Dont be so sensitive. When you start telling people to "grow up" it pisses them off. State facts and opinions and try to be mature about it. (See Bufffan..Im being nice! lol) I personally agree with Bubba..Mac will not make the playoffs..for their sake Im hope Im wrong..but I doubt that I am! :D

[Gridiron Gopher]

Bucky, if saying "I guess Mac did stand a chance. I guess that just tells me what the talent level in San Antonio Area is like this year. Congrads to Mac on your win over Boerne, but your still not getting ou of 26-5A
means that bubbacoach is giving props to Mac....I disagree. Every compliment was followed by a backhanded slap in the face. What would have been wrong with......."I guess Mac did stand a chance" and "Congrads to Mac on your win over Boerne. Then it would have sounded more sinsere. JMO

[Reaganrattler07]

Bucky, if saying "I guess Mac did stand a chance. I guess that just tells me what the talent level in San Antonio Area is like this year. Congrads to Mac on your win over Boerne, but your still not getting ou of 26-5A
means that bubbacoach is giving props to Mac....I disagree. Every compliment was followed by a backhanded slap in the face. What would have been wrong with......."I guess Mac did stand a chance" and "Congrads to Mac on your win over Boerne. Then it would have sounded more sinsere. JMO

Gridiron...get over it. First you where complaining that Mac didn't get credit, now your whining that they are getting credit. WHICH DO YOU WANT?!

[Gridiron Gopher]

Redskins, I know you've had a bad weekend but it shouldn't effect you understanding my last post. If you don't......enough said.

[FootballJunkie]

I have a question. What is the big deal about beating a 4A team? Isn't that the way it is supposed to go??

[mad_fan]

I have a question. What is the big deal about beating a 4A team? Isn't that the way it is supposed to go??

you might think, but not so...pretty even...

2005 Class 5A (83) vs Class 4A (70) after Week 2 - Updated Sept. 13, 2005

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/2005Class5Avs4A.html

[FootballJunkie]

you might think, but not so...pretty even...

2005 Class 5A (83) vs Class 4A (70) after Week 2 - Updated Sept. 13, 2005

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/2005Class5Avs4A.html

That is a stat I would not of believed but I guess numbers don't lie in this case.

[Reaganrattler07]

Redskins, I know you've had a bad weekend but it shouldn't effect you understanding my last post. If you don't......enough said.

It's all fine now, but seriously. You complain Mac doesn't get credit. People give them credit. Then you whine some more. Either accept the credit people give you, or just stop complaining that Mac doesn't get any. Mac will never get my respect. It is a very personal matter if you must know.