Katy v Strake

[TheProphet]

Does anyone else see this as a possible upset game with Strake's influx of La. talent? I know for a fact they are now set again at running back, and their defensive backfield is better than Katy's. (Not that they will match up, just saying.) So, will this be Katy's upset week? More importantly, do you think Katy will have to go D1? Lastly, please refrain from saying anything stupid, as I will have to call you out on it... this goes especially for anyone whos score prediction is Katy 42 Strake 0 or who thinks Bobby and Brandon are the fastest people in the state of Texas...

[TigerV1]

Does anyone else see this as a possible upset game with Strake's influx of La. talent? I know for a fact they are now set again at running back, and their defensive backfield is better than Katy's. (Not that they will match up, just saying.) So, will this be Katy's upset week? More importantly, do you think Katy will have to go D1? Lastly, please refrain from saying anything stupid, as I will have to call you out on it... this goes especially for anyone whos score prediction is Katy 42 Strake 0 or who thinks Bobby and Brandon are the fastest people in the state of Texas...

I think Strake's lack of depth is going to make it tough to be competitive on the 5A level. I also have to say that I think its a borderline bold/foolish thing to say about Strake's defensive backfield being better than Katy's. Should be a good game.

[t00 playa]

I think it is realistic that katy goes DI, and also think that strake will not be able to stay with katy.... i think they may keep up for a lil while.. but.. i think katy pulls away in the second half.... i wont make a prediction as u made it known u dislike those.. :D

[TheProphet]

You may think that TigerV1, but they have 2 D1 players back there...for real, that isn't even downing Katy, they are just really good in that area. Strake has this stereotype as a sub tier (sp?) team, with a few stars, but thats not the case anymore.

[TheProphet]

Lol DaSho, I love predictions, thats what I do for a living. I'm only saying don't say Katy 42 Strake 0 then expect to have no one laugh at you...I love you guys lol by all means, all the intelligent input in the world is welcome.

[Fleeman93]

May be silly, but I think it will be closer to 42-0 than 28-17 as some have predicted in other threads. I will be amazed if any of those players from NO step in on such short notice and make a big impact. As far as Katy going DI, I am still of the opinion that Elsik will be one of the top 3 teams from 19-5A when it is all said and done.

[TheProphet]

Really it could be anyone. Katy and Strake are in for sure. Cinco and MC are probably the two worst high school football teams I have ever seen, bar Ed Turner. So its basically a coin flip,(I think), Hastings or Elsik make it then we go D2, Katy or Alief Taylor make it we go D1? Maybe KAty Tayor is bigger than Katy though. Eh, I dont know, either way I like Hastings...so maybe we will spared the pain of Region III DI

[unoit]

Prohet,
Ya'll must have the least complicated O in the world if your LA guys can pick it up in 2 weeks. If Katy, Southlake, Lufkin, or any other power houses can't beat LA's best team then they don't deserve to be state champs or a power house. So, with all the new guys ya'll got plus the your old team put together in 2 weeks I'm sure we can hang. I guess your saying that North Shore is overrated and sucks too since they only beat the Woodlands by 1. Personally, I think North Shore can play and have the utmost respect for them and there recent accomplishments. I also believe that the Woodlands Can also play. Maybe they did fumble in our game but I'm sure that our Defense had nothing to do with that either. That's like saying St. Thomas handed ya'll the game with all the turnovers and ya'll had nothing to do with it. All I'm saying is don't dissappear off this site after the game like all the other guys that come on here talking and talking. I'm sure it will be a good game but come on baytown lee this year and st. thomas way to step out there and challenge yourselves. Any southlake or lufkins men read this, Do you think ya'll could beat LA's best team. I belive ya'll might destroy them. Just wondering

[STJL41]

Does anyone else see this as a possible upset game with Strake's influx of La. talent?


No.

Plain and simple.

[htownfootball]

the NOLA kids wont add much to strakes team this year for the katy matchup but, if any year, strake can beat katy this year. katy lost james aston but return their QB and LB plus brandon king and a newly found passing game.
strake will be playing under their lights at crusader stadium so if the new small stadium disrupts katy's game it could help jesuit. also crowd support is going to be just about even. where katy thinks they out-do everyone jesuit will be right there with them since the visiting and home stands are just about the same in capacity and jesuit will be turning any katy fan away once their side is sold out. another thing, both teams are 3-0 doesnt katy always have an upset? anyways these things are just for a hint at an upset but realistically i expect the crusaders to be 3-1 after katy and then be on the playoff hunt which is realistic this year for strake jesuit.

[KT2000]

Katy has a better talent this year than last in my opinion. The overall team speed is something not seen in these parts for a good five years in my estimation. Special teams is definitely a notch above last year. The defense is more physical.

The last time Katy was anywhere near this balanced on offense was during the 2000 season, but even then the team almost always rushed for more yards than they passed. This year, Katy has the ability to pass for twice as much as they run. I couldn't say that about any other Tiger team in recent memory save for 1996. That's not saying the rushing game is bad because there are two or three backs in the stable with the ability to take it to the house from anywhere on the field. It's more of a statement of how good the QB, Andy Dalton, is doing so far and also a testament to added depth at receiver. The offense can score just as quickly on the ground as it can in the air.

Basically, every defense has a key choice to make this year in regards to Katy. Do they take the typical approach to the Tigers and load up against the run...risking a field day from QB Dalton and receivers (Woods and JV chose this)? Or do they hang back, and risk letting Katy control the game on the ground in trademark Tiger fashion?

If Strake is still operating out of the spread, they'll need to do a better job of taking the pressure off of Bandy than they did last year. I don't think Bandy had over 40 yards passing in the game last year. The Tiger defense pretty much teed off on him because Jefferson and the other back couldn't jump start anything on the ground. Katy's secondary has three starters back from last year's squad that was very good in pass defense.

I don't think Strake expects much, if anything from any NOLA players allowed to participate given the timing of everything. I hear the RB is being rushed along because of the injury to Jefferson, but that's just the word on the street.

19-5A is a toss up this year outside of Katy in my opinion. Any other team could get hot at the right time and win enough games to get in.

Strake appeared to be a pretty well coached bunch last year, but as others have stated, lack of depth immediately puts them behind the 8-ball when they play someone like Katy on the 5A level that can throw waves of players at them over four quarters. Last year, it was very evident the effect that was having. Katy is a very physical team traditionally and it'd take a near superhuman effort from a team with the roster size of Strake to be able to stand against that for 48 minutes.

Obviously, neither team is going to write the game off because it's all about improving every week. The Tigers won't be overlooking them and Strake will be eager to try and prove themselves. As for the attendance issue, Katy fans are going to find a way to be near the action whether they are allowed into the actual stadium or not. Don't worry about that.

I do think Strake will end up making the playoffs this year. They are good enough to win three district games and possibly a fourth "swing game."

[htownfootball]

kt2000, when you put up a preview for the strake katy game on the katy message board can you post it here, i dont wanna have to do ones since yours are so well done.

[TheProphet]

Well KT2000,
Since we but heads on every board, we might as well be friends. I am to RESPECTFULLY disagree with the talent comment. DB is about the same, the best thing i can say for it is that wade weir no longer plays in it. basically you lost brad and will and darren got better. However, losing paul and triche at LB has shown up. paul did so much for that defense. the d-line is the same as last year, if they arent overmatched they do their jobs. if they are, then will and darren get 15 tackles a piece. on offense, the line has taken a hit with jordan and eman leaving, obviously, but are still solid, just not AS solid. P.S. that wont show up til we play a real top 10 team. QB is way better, but i still think AD's immobility will be exposed as teams find that they can zone blitz katy. RB, well you cant replace james, the lack of ball control will put more stress on what i think is a vulnerable defense as the year progresses, but 'dre is good, obviously. WR is a remarkable improvement, and the dude from LA will only help. As for the comment about how can players learn offenses, its really not hard. there might be some mistakes, but when it comes down to it the holes are numbered the same in every offense. But yeah, KT2000 strake will make the playoffs, the third spot is kind of a crapshoot, so lets just root for schools bigger than us.

[htownfootball]

alright here's the breakdown
Strake Jesuit Crusaders host Katy Tigers
Crusader Stadium

Quarterback: (SJ) Tim Bandy vs. (KT) Andy Dalton
Bandy is a three-year starter with a starting record of 15-6. This season he is 16 of 34 for 272 yds and 4 TDs, 2 INTs. In rushing, Bandy is 12 for 60 yds with 1 TD. He leads an offense that is averaging 261.3 yards per game.
Dalton is 28 for 42 and 574 yards with 10 TDs and 2 INTs in just 3 games. He leads a potent offense that is averaging 367.7 yards a game.
Edge: Katy

Rushing:
Katy lost all-state James Aston to Ohio State's wrestling and football programs but return Brandon King (42-166) and Aundre Dean (45-281) with 2 TDs each.
Jesuit returns Grant Jefferson but an ACL Tear in the opener versus Baytown Lee put him out for the season. But other players have stepped up giving Jesuit a multiple option running attack that could keep defenses guessing. Sophomore Jeff McVaney is 17 for 142 yards and 1 TD. Ben Werner, another underclassman, is 49 for 123 and 1 TD. Miami (FL) recruit Jonathan Moore is 9 for 47 and 1 TD. University of Texas RB Chris Ogbonnaya's brother, Moses, is 1 for 5 and 1 TD.
Edge: Katy

Receiving:
Strake's Jonathan Madsen is 6 for 123. Sophomore Davis Burk is 4 for 75 and 2 TDs. TE David Tscheope is 3 for 53 and 1 TD. RB McVaney is 2 for 17 and Stephen Tyree just impresses.
Katy, for once actually has a passing game centered around Michael Fuda with 9 for 312 yards and 5 TDs.
Edge: Strake Jesuit

thats all im gonna do, KT2000 will do a better job anyways.

[Tut]

As for the comment about how can players learn offenses, its really not hard. there might be some mistakes, but when it comes down to it the holes are numbered the same in every offense. But yeah, KT2000 strake will make the playoffs, the third spot is kind of a crapshoot, so lets just root for schools bigger than us.
(1) It's hard to get on the same page with new teamates in two weeks of practice. The La. players will definately help as the season goes on.

(2) Have to beat some good teams to win either division. Yes, that would happen sooner in Div.1. Personally, I think it's a screwy system!

[SmilinTiger]

[QUOTE=htownfootball]alright here's the breakdown
Strake Jesuit Crusaders host Katy Tigers











Receiving:
Strake's Jonathan Madsen is 6 for 123. Sophomore Davis Burk is 4 for 75 and 2 TDs. TE David Tscheope is 3 for 53 and 1 TD. RB McVaney is 2 for 17 and Stephen Tyree just impresses.
Katy, for once actually has a passing game centered around Michael Fuda with 9 for 312 yards and 5 TDs.
Edge: Strake Jesuit

Let's see last week a 73 yarder to Fuda, a 37 yarder to Konesheck and a shovel pass to Thompson, all for touchdowns. AND that's against a good program like Humble, NOT St.Pius or St. Thomas.

Edge: Strake Jesuit............I don't think so.

[TheProphet]

well smilintiger, everyone from katy thinks katy has the edge over everyone in everything. im sure most schools are like that tho...

[SmilinTiger]

well smilintiger, everyone from katy thinks katy has the edge over everyone in everything. im sure most schools are like that tho...

Not over everyone. But in this case we know where the edge belongs. And it's not a thin edge.

We're not nearly as bad as the Dragon and Panther faithful.

There can be strength in silence.

[poppy]

katy has 11 players from louisianna as well...
will they play much..i doubt it...
will the transfers help strake i doubt they will
against katy...
katy has the best team i've seen from katy and
that includes the 2000 team which i thought was way
better than the 2003 team..
katy will have little trouble from strake this year
even though they beat such powers as baytown lee
(lee gave up 63 points to clear lake this year)
ohhh yeah they beat st thomas too..wow....
go crusaders...

[Texasfrog]

I've read a few post from some of ya'll that are saying this years Katy team is better then the 2000 team. If that's the case all I can say is "DANG" they must be good.

I'm going to have to check out Katy when I come home in a few weeks. :)

[kttigersrock]

I've read a few post from some of ya'll that are saying this years Katy team is better then the 2000 team. If that's the case all I can say is "DANG" they must be good.

I'm going to have to check out Katy when I come home in a few weeks. :)

They are fun to watch and are very balanced like the 2000 team. But until this team is 16-0 and has another trophy in the field house case, I wouldn't say they are better! Long way to go and a lot of good teams in the path!

[KT2000]

I haven't seen anyone say that, and if they have that's a completely unfair proclamation to make at this point. The 2000 team went 16-0 of course. That can only be matched, never topped. I've said that this Katy team is the fastest overall since the 2000 team, and I beileve that to be fact. That's something you can actually measure and stack up accurately.

The amount of Louisiana players at Katy seems to grow with every new post I see on the subject. I think the accurate number is five, two of which are seniors.

[kttigersrock]

KT - do you know if any of the LA kids are on the varsity roster, and if so, any scoop on any of them actually getting any PT?

[Texasfrog]

I haven't seen anyone say that, and if they have that's a completely unfair proclamation to make at this point. The 2000 team went 16-0 of course. That can only be matched, never topped. I've said that this Katy team is the fastest overall since the 2000 team, and I beileve that to be fact. That's something you can actually measure and stack up accurately.

The amount of Louisiana players at Katy seems to grow with every new post I see on the subject. I think the accurate number is five, two of which are seniors.

Better might be an overstatement.. I've read a few post where people are comparing this years Katy team with the 2000 Katy in alot of ways.

To me that's saying something because I consider the 2000 Katy team one of the top #6 teams in the modern Texas 5A era (80's,90's and 2000).

[TheProphet]

there is one dude off rivals thats a WR who came to katy to play football...so im positive he will get PT...also theres a linebacker i have met thats a varsity player...

[TheProphet]

KT2000-
I know we dont see eye to eye on a lot of things, but can we please dispell any rumors that katy's team is as good as it was in 97 or 2000. Honestly, in position breakdown it isnt even as good as 03.

[KT2000]

Prophet, I don't think you can do that at this point. Three games have been played. That's not enough to formulate any kind of final judgement vs. 2004, 2003, 2000, 1991 or any other year. There is a season that has to be played.

It's very evident you have an agenda against Katy because you just keep making these blanket statements with no support whatsoever.

[TheProphet]

Then let me reword it, its stupid to say they are as good at this point. My agenda isnt with katy, i have 3 good friends who start on the team. I just like football conversation, and dont like when our fans make us look like morons. and if you would like i can collect some of those quotes for you...

[Texas Bob]

dont like when our fans make us look like morons.

You don't need any help in that area

[KT2000]

Nice save Prophet, but I still don't buy what you're trying to sell given the comments you made about the coaching staff earlier and the original statement above.

[Fleeman93]

The only thing worse than someone from a different program throwing around unfounded crap about your program is someone that acts like they support your program doing the same.

[TheProphet]

So wait KT2000, you don't believe the coaching staff is subpar compared to what it used to be?

[TheProphet]

and Texas Bob, what have I said thats stupid? Maybe you don't agree with me, but that doesnt make it stupid. Katyrecsquad06 saying BK and bobby are the two fastest players in the state, is STUPID. Remember just because we dont agree doenst mean you know more than i do.

[unoit]

Hey prophet,
I believe the coaching staff honestly is better than in the past. Look where the new coaches came from and the coaching in their family. I think you will be surprised when you do your research. Who did we lose as a coach that was so vital we can't win without them. If you really know as much about katy football as you proclaim, then you would know who the good coaches are. I believe this staff is very very strong, yes stronger than the past. Anyone agree??

[KatyTigers]

I have been following Katy football since 1998 and this years coaching staff is on par with the best past Katy staffs. Obviously, the staff from the 90's and the year of 2000's record speaks for itself.

But this staff is incredible. Their football minds are among the best I have seen on the high school level. The job they have done of molding the kids into a team that works well with the staff is amazing.

[ktrain]

Hey prophet,
I believe the coaching staff honestly is better than in the past. Look where the new coaches came from and the coaching in their family. I think you will be surprised when you do your research. Who did we lose as a coach that was so vital we can't win without them. If you really know as much about katy football as you proclaim, then you would know who the good coaches are. I believe this staff is very very strong, yes stronger than the past. Anyone agree??

I agree completely. I am very impressed and excited about our offensive improvements.
I for one was not happy with last years offensive play calling. Much more diversified this year. If the offense continues to improve as they have over the last 3 games they should be in rare form come playoff time. On the defensive side Coach Joseph always stands among the best and this year he has the speed and talent to shut down some very good offensive teams. It’s going to be fun watching this team grow and progress into the playoffs.

[poppy]

my statement about this years team being better than 2000 team
should be qualified...
after 3 games this years team looks better to me :rolleyes: than the 2000
team did after 3 games...

[ktCarl]

I've read a few post from some of ya'll that are saying this years Katy team is better then the 2000 team. If that's the case all I can say is "DANG" they must be good.

I'm going to have to check out Katy when I come home in a few weeks. :)
I wouldn't say better than 2000 but they are definitely starting fast this year. This team's offense is balanced like the 2000 team but has only played 3 games so far. The 2000 team went undefeated and won State. How can you be better than that? This team can only match what the 2000 team accomplished.
...and I hope they do.

[TheProphet]

Fair Enough, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I will say that if this staff does what Johnston's did, or even if they win state this year I will become a believer, but I guess I'm just a natural pessimist. O well, they will have the chance to prove it.

[KT2000]

I don't think "Impress TheProphet" is on the goal sheet this year.

It's just incredible to me that your trying to formulate an opinion on the new Joseph regime (1 season and three games) vs. Johnston regime (20 seasons?).

Talk to me again in 10-20 years.

[TheProphet]

thats exactly one of my points KT2000, how can they be as good in 1.25 seasons as Johnston was at the end of his 20 yr tenure. there is no way they are AT that level. they could easily REACH that level however. see, i knew you could see things my way too!

[KT2000]

No, your point (pretty clear at this point) is that Joseph and co. could not be the staff Johnston had at any point. You didn't leave anything open about 10 or 20 years from now.

I couldn't disagree more with you on any and everything you've said. Lordy, this is fun. By all means, keep digging.

[poppy]

trying to compare 1982 ,coach j's 1st year,
to coach joseph....let's see 1982 what was the won loss record...0-10???
2004 12-2 reg finals
2005 3-0.....

[Texasfrog]

trying to compare 1982 ,coach j's 1st year,
to coach joseph....let's see 1982 what was the won loss record...0-10???
2004 12-2 reg finals
2005 3-0.....

Katy changed alot during that time period. I mean the area of Katy itself went from a rural farming area (70-80's) to a short commute to Houston in the (90's) and the area exploded with population.

I spent a part of my younger life in the Northern part of Fort Bend Co. We used to go to Katy and all it used to be was I-10 and some farming fields. In fact there used to be alot of good Dove hunting in many of those fields that now have shops and homes.

Katy in the 70's and 80's compared to Katy of the 90's and now. Pretty much night and day.

So over that span period Katy football has grown. Coach Johnston took over a young program and built it up. Coach Joseph took over a "PROGRAM".

[poppy]

So over that span period Katy football has grown. Coach Johnston took over a young program and built it up. Coach Joseph took over a "PROGRAM".

that is exactly my point...there i no comparison....
johnston built the program from scratch...
coach joesph has done a remarkable job keeping the program
on the right track.....

[KT2000]

Joseph was right there with Johnston in 1982 helping build the program from scratch. I think many people outside of (and some inside evidently) overlooked that fact when all of the "doomsday proclamations" started flying around for Katy football after the coaching changes following the state title in 2003.

Katy's not done winning just yet.

[katyrecsquad6]

anyone who says this is going to be a good game is crazyI think Strake's lack of depth is going to make it tough to be competitive on the 5A level. I also have to say that I think its a borderline bold/foolish thing to say about Strake's defensive backfield being better than Katy's. Should be a good game.

[KT2000]

There's always a chance that something weird happens, and I know the players won't pay attention to any of the "60-70 point blowout" talk. The coaches just won't allow that to happen, and from what I know of the players, they are smart enough to realize you treat every prep week and game the same as you would if it were the playoffs.

[STJL41]

anyone who says this is going to be a good game is crazy

I couldn't agree more. Strake Jesuit may or may not be on their way to being competitive with high caliber 5A teams, but that remains to be seen. This will not be a game unless the boys at KHS somehow magically forget how to play football.

Katy - 28 Strake - 7...maybe 10 (i still haven't decided)

[ktCarl]

There's always a chance that something weird happens, and I know the players won't pay attention to any of the "60-70 point blowout" talk. The coaches just won't allow that to happen, and from what I know of the players, they are smart enough to realize you treat every prep week and game the same as you would if it were the playoffs.
Something weird like a HURRICANE!!
Looks like after all the hype there might not be a game after all.