McGuffie

[sttirf111]

Is offered by the Sooners. On Rivals he is now listed at 5'10 191 LBS. With a 45 inch vertical and a 3.78 shuttle time :eek:

[dada]

New this Kid was too good to be true! Damn Land theives at it again

[AG8411]

Is offered by the Sooners. On Rivals he is now listed at 5'10 191 LBS. With a 45 inch vertical and a 3.78 shuttle time :eek:

45 vertical??? probably closer to 35. gotta be a typo.

and yes, i saw the videos.

[Drake]

Wow! 45" vertical??? Lets see... If he's 5'10" that means he is 70 inches tall. Add to that his 45" vertical and you realize he can stand flat footed and come within 5 inches of hitting his head on a 10' basketball goal. To hell with D1 football, he should go straight to the NBA! :)

[Fleeman93]

45 vertical??? probably closer to 35. gotta be a typo.

and yes, i saw the videos.

I don't doubt the 45 inch verticle. Back when I use to coach volleyball I had a 37 and I am short and stocky.

[Drake]

I don't doubt the 45 inch verticle. Back when I use to coach volleyball I had a 37 and I am short and stocky.Fleeman... I think you are confusing the "vertical leap" with the high jump... :D

[Fleeman93]

Fleeman... I think you are confusing the "vertical leap" with the high jump... :D


No sir, but it does appear that I was confused on my spelling of vertical.

[Bobcat81]

Some interesting stats on Verticle Leap;


Players: Vertical Leap: Standing Reach: Highest Touch:

NBA Players
Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 41" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Magic Johnson 30" - -

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -

NFL
Randy Moss 51" - -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

[TXFOOSBALL]

Some interesting stats on Verticle Leap;


Players: Vertical Leap: Standing Reach: Highest Touch:

NBA Players
Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 41" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Magic Johnson 30" - -

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -

NFL
Randy Moss 51" - -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

Damn i didnt know that Mcguffie could jump higher than Vince Carter....thats impressive. :rolleyes:

[t-long20]

Damn i didnt know that Mcguffie could jump higher than Vince Carter....thats impressive. :rolleyes:

nothings impossible in the world of high school senior stats

[Kilt-Boy]

he is now listed at 5'10 191 LBS. With a 45 inch vertical and a 3.78 shuttle time :eek:

By next year he'll be 10 feet tall and shooting fireballs from his..........................:eek: :eek: :eek:

Since we usually get Cy-Fair as our scrimmage, I'll be sure to report back. ;)

[t00 playa]

Some interesting stats on Verticle Leap;


Players: Vertical Leap: Standing Reach: Highest Touch:

NBA Players
Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 41" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Magic Johnson 30" - -

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -

NFL
Randy Moss 51" - -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

i remember michael wilson when he played for the memphis tigers... he could flat out jump out of the gym....

did levett play for cincinnati?:eek:

[KT2000]

John Hamilton (better known as The Helicopter) recorded a 46 inch vertical in an official college competition.

[Drake]

Sam McGuffie... If you're reading these threads please realize none of these sarcastic posts (mine included) have anything to do with a lack of respect for you or your ability... I saw you play several times last year and I came away with nothing but the highest regard for you.

The HYPE is what tickles me, but I can't say it's undeserved.... Good luck!

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I was sitting on the CyFalls side when they played CyFair. When Sam ran the ball and leap over a Falls player the whole Falls side said in collective 'WOW'.

Sam is amazing.

[TXFOOSBALL]

I was sitting on the CyFalls side when they played CyFair. When Sam ran the ball and leap over a Falls player the whole Falls side said in collective 'WOW'.

Sam is amazing.

Thats great...wish i could have been there to hear that.

[HUM398]

McGuffie who?

when i was in HS i had a vertical leap of 72 inches. i also ran a 2.1 forty, not as fast as Riley dodge though...( wasn't that good.)

[TXFOOSBALL]

McGuffie who?

when i was in HS i had a vertical leap of 72 inches. i also ran a 2.1 forty, not as fast as Riley dodge though...( wasn't that good.)

Come on RD sucks...Im sure you had 10 times his talent.

[Kilt-Boy]

McGuffie who?

when i was in HS i had a vertical leap of 72 inches. i also ran a 2.1 forty, not as fast as Riley dodge though...( wasn't that good.)

I only have 1 problem with this..... a 2.1 forty, c'mon. You know that was wind aided. 2.25 would have been the correct number on that.

[BoomerSooner]

I'd say there's a bit of rounding going on here. What would you guess his real vertical is?

[panamamyers]

Melvin Levett was also nicknamed the helicopter. Michael Wilson was the biggest jumper I've ever seen, I know he went for some sort of record while with the Globetrotters. He dunked on a 12' rim or something like that.

[Bobcat81]

i remember michael wilson when he played for the memphis tigers... he could flat out jump out of the gym....

did levett play for cincinnati?:eek:

Yes, He played there but left left the program in 1999 without a degree and headed off for what he hoped would be a long and financially lucrative career in the NBA.

His NBA career didn't go off as well as he'd planned and later returned to UC to finish his degree.

[HUM398]

I only have 1 problem with this..... a 2.1 forty, c'mon. You know that was wind aided. 2.25 would have been the correct number on that.

Hey, thats what they clocked so thats what i brag about.

[Bobcat81]

Is offered by the Sooners. On Rivals he is now listed at 5'10 191 LBS. With a 45 inch vertical and a 3.78 shuttle time :eek:


I'd like to know which particular shuttle he was being timed on. (5-10-5),..(10-10)..or what?

[New Guy in Town]

Talking of impressive vertical leaps...Gordon Jones was a reciever at Pitt when Marino was there in the early 80's and was an Olympic level long jumper. He used to make money in the old Fitzgerald Field House on Pitt's campus by taking one step and taking $20 bill or $50 bill off the top of the backboard. David Thompson from NC State and the Denver Nuggets was always quoted as having a vertical leap over 50 inches. He dunked over some dude in the NCAA tournament and caught his foot on the guys shoulder and flipped up in the air. His feet hit the bottom of the backboard. Sounds like OU has got an all around winner coming there way.

[sttirf111]

Look everyone the shuttle and vertical are documented on RIVALS from combines they are not phony. Anyways offers from Notre Dame and Michigan are in for McGuffie to go along with Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, K State, Kansas. Im interested to see where he will go.

[TXFOOSBALL]

Look everyone the shuttle and vertical are documented on RIVALS from combines they are not phony. Anyways offers from Notre Dame and Michigan are in for McGuffie to go along with Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, K State, Kansas. Im interested to see where he will go.

Yea why dont you get some inside info from your busdriver.

[sttirf111]

Yea why dont you get some inside info from your busdriver.
Why don't you get a life other than talking crap to people on an internet message board you waste of life.

[TXFOOSBALL]

Why don't you get a life other than talking crap to people on an internet message board you waste of life.

I was being serious...isnt the guy who drives you to school best friends with him. I am a ND fan and would love some insight.

[TXFOOSBALL]

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=640400

Badace article on Mcguffie leaving class and asked to give Weis a call. He said his hands were shaking.

[t-long20]

Yea why dont you get some inside info from your busdriver.

whether you were serious or not that was a good one

[CFlb38 08]

By next year he'll be 10 feet tall and shooting fireballs from his..........................:eek: :eek: :eek:

Since we usually get Cy-Fair as our scrimmage, I'll be sure to report back. ;)

LOL!!!

[Bobcat81]

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=640400

Badace article on Mcguffie leaving class and asked to give Weis a call. He said his hands were shaking.

Can you post that article por favor.. I don't have access to it, Thanks

[CyFair'86]

Can you post that article por favor.. I don't have access to it, Thanks

Just go to the link and look for another link that says email this story. Email it to yourself, and you'll get more detail. Sometimes it not much more then what you see, and other times(this case) there is a lot more to read.

[TXFOOSBALL]

whether you were serious or not that was a good one

thanks t-long i thought so too.

Basically the article was talking about how Sam got out of english class and they gave him coach weis's cell phone # and was told to call him. He said that his hands were shaking when he called him. Weis told him he was rarely impressed with young talent and he was with Sam. He told him that he didnt know where he would fit in but that he could play him at any position. He also said that he liked his jump over the guy and thought it was very creative.

[jtk1519]

Look everyone the shuttle and vertical are documented on RIVALS from combines they are not phony. Anyways offers from Notre Dame and Michigan are in for McGuffie to go along with Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, K State, Kansas. Im interested to see where he will go.

Not really true. The numbers are listed on Rivals as seen here...

http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=54392

...but the numbers listed there do not come from a Rivals combine. More often than not, they come from the player themselves or a coach. Any time or measurement that was officially chronicled by Rivals scouts a Rivals combine will be indicated by an "r" next to the data. Like this...

http://texas.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=48554

You can click on that little "r" to see the event where the data was recorded and how others at that camp performed. Bottom line, if it doesn't have that little "r" next to the data, it is not official.

[stevefoxsc]

he got ups

[Fleeman93]

He is going to Michigan.

[ktCarl]

I only have 1 problem with this..... a 2.1 forty, c'mon. You know that was wind aided. 2.25 would have been the correct number on that.

I think he meant that he ran 40 inches in 2.1 minutes. :D

[abc]

the vertical leap was recorded electronically at the Nike Combine at UH last year.....from what I hear, the electronic measurements are inaccurate because it measure from have far your feet come off the ground or how long you're in the air....people said you easily got more inches being tested on the machine, because you could lift your legs up while you were in the air.......I believe the most accurate vertical tesing method is the one they use at the NFL combines where they measure your reach and then you try to jump and spin the things on the top of a pole.....Sam can jump obviously, but honestly I don't see it being 45"

[KT2000]

I know people will tease anytime something is said about McGuffie, and think the hype is out of hand ever since "The Jump" but he is the real deal on the field. He is a truly special talent, and one you really appreciate once you see because you know that kind of God given talent doesn't come along very often.

[Bobcat81]

McGuffie seems to be showing quite a bit of improvement from what has been recorded since his Soph year in 06.

(Soph 2006);

Weight - (175-180?)
Verticle - 41.8
Shuttle - 3.83
40 - 4.32, 4.35 (source: Texprepxtra)

(Jr 2007);

weight - 190+
Verticle - 45"
Shuttle - 3.78
40 - (no posting)

Definately seems to be quite a bit of leg strength improvement as well as quickness and weight gain. With a full season of track & field ahead, 7 on 7, and a full summer of added contioning, 2008 could prove to be yet another exceptional year for McGuffie.

[t00 playa]

hes a good RB.. ppl should give him credit for that.... but i am amused at all the comments made though... but you have to know that when you start throwing stats out there.... that make him faster than the world record holder in the 100m if they were just sprinting 40yds... then you will catch some hilarious comments...... its all good though.. he is a talented RB.. ill leave it at that...:eek:

[HUM398]

hes a good RB.. ppl should give him credit for that.... but i am amused at all the comments made though... but you have to know that when you start throwing stats out there.... that make him faster than the world record holder in the 100m if they were just sprinting 40yds... then you will catch some hilarious comments...... its all good though.. he is a talented RB.. ill leave it at that...:eek:

im better.


Height: 6'1 (actual)
Weight: 225
40: 21
Vertical: 75'
Bench: 1000
Squat: Ford F-450
Potential: possibly the greatest Human-being to grace the planet
Shuttle: 0.1
Weakness: Asian Women

[jakerz]

He has talent that can't be seen in text, most people would have to see him live to see what he is. He's good, I'll admit that.


I'm pretty sure a lot of that stats are way saturated though.

[Bobcat81]

He has talent that can't be seen in text, most people would have to see him live to see what he is. He's good, I'll admit that.


I'm pretty sure a lot of that stats are way saturated though.

Irregardless, the stats are a pretty good indicator of whats to come. The boy's going to reek some serious havoc in the coming year.

[Rolltide]

Regardless of his stats. You're right, you can fudge stats., but you can not fudge what he has done on the field. And that is the ultimate test. The difference that I see with Sam is that his track speed (however fast he is) transfers to the football field. I've seen a lot of kids who can clock in the 4.5's on a track, but give them a football and 11 guys chasing them and they look like they're running in mud.

[katyguy09]

I only have 1 problem with this..... a 2.1 forty, c'mon. You know that was wind aided. 2.25 would have been the correct number on that.

lol

[TXFOOSBALL]

His speed stats are fudged but his combo of straight line speed and lateral speed are one of a kind.

[CFlb38 08]

im better.


Height: 6'1 (actual)
Weight: 225
40: 21
Vertical: 75'
Bench: 1000
Squat: Ford F-450
Potential: possibly the greatest Human-being to grace the planet
Shuttle: 0.1
Weakness: Asian Women

LOL!!!

[fbmarshall]

Pretty soon McGuffie will be hanging with TO.........

[CyFair'86]

Pretty soon McGuffie will be hanging with TO.........

I would hope not...TO would not be a good influence for Sam, or anyone else.

[Pearland1]

Mc Guffie is very good but he can be stop by a quick defense. he will do fine in college. I wish him the best of luck in college in 2009.

[Rolltide]

Mc Guffie is very good but he can be stop by a quick defense. he will do fine in college. I wish him the best of luck in college in 2009.

Dude. Judging from you pic. You will have the last word on this;) .

[TXFOOSBALL]

Is mcguffie a mixed race? It doesnt matter but just curious.

[jakerz]

Is mcguffie a mixed race? It doesnt matter but just curious.

Half white half kangaroo

[BoomerSooner]

Half white half kangaroo

Haha ya it sure looks like it sometimes.

[CyFair'86]

Half white half kangaroo

Now that's effing funny!

[Oiler99]

mcguffie is a good speed back can hit the corner or the open holes. BUt put him up against an atheletic defense and he has no where to run becuase he doesnt have the size to run thorugh people. Mayb thats cause i saw the pearland game, but he looked liek a track star in a football uniform.

[cfbobcat]

mcguffie is a good speed back can hit the corner or the open holes. BUt put him up against an atheletic defense and he has no where to run becuase he doesnt have the size to run thorugh people. Mayb thats cause i saw the pearland game, but he looked liek a track star in a football uniform.

In Sam's defense, it was one game, probably his worst of the year. He got his bell rung very early in the game while blocking on a kickoff return and was never quite right after that. All that aside, credit is deserved where it is due-Pearland had a nasty defense and did a great job against the Bobcats.

[TellMeWeCan't08]

do you really think he weighed 190 and was even close to 5'10" the kid was one of the smallest players out there, try 160.

[KT2000]

do you really think he weighed 190 and was even close to 5'10" the kid was one of the smallest players out there, try 160.

He's not that small. I'd say 185 if I had to guess. He has build to his frame. 160 pounders don't have build unless they are 5'5 to 5'7.

[Living Legend]

Rivals officially has him listed at 6'0'' 185lbs

[miami man]

Here's an update on sam check it out. He has 10 offers,not bad! http://texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=32&url_article_id=1158&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2

[TXfootball]

he's at 185 during track season, a sport known for thinning out players, I'm thinking after summer break he will have at least 10 more pounds of muscle on him.

[TellMeWeCan't08]

I played in the Pearland/Cy-Fair game at Rice. I'm 6'3" 200, and he barely came up to my shoulders. No lie, so either my head is 3 inches in length or...well you tell me.

[Bobcat81]

I played in the Pearland/Cy-Fair game at Rice. I'm 6'3" 200, and he barely came up to my shoulders. No lie, so either my head is 3 inches in length or...well you tell me.

McGuffie is 5'10"...maybe 5-10 and a half.. anything more would be stretching it a bit at this point. But i think he's still got a few more inches of growing ahead..
If you've seen his Dad, you'de agree with that. He's tall.
But then again, I may be wrong. I've seen guys sprout up almost two inches in a single year.

[TXFOOSBALL]

McGuffie is 5'10"...maybe 5-10 and a half.. anything more would be stretching it a bit at this point. But i think he's still got a few more inches of growing ahead..
If you've seen his Dad, you'de agree with that. He's tall.
But then again, I may be wrong. I've seen guys sprout up almost two inches in a single year.

Yea if you saw Tre Newtons dad youd know he is going to be closer to 300 lbs than 200. :confused:

Honestly...I dont understand why we are arguing about an inch and 10 lbs. He will maybe grow an inch and he will prolly gain some weight in the offseason. He's a phoenomenal player and I can only see him being better next season due to his great work ethic. Recruiters at all of the best colleges in the country dont care...why should we??

[HUM398]

he's at 185 during track season, a sport known for thinning out players, I'm thinking after summer break he will have at least 10 more pounds of muscle on him.


Our RB for next year was 6ft 185lbs...and he looks like he gained a good 10lbs already(he is running track...is Humble's fastest sprinter)... and he is running his 100m dash in 10.4-10.7 range.... the kid has blazing speed.

he looks about 6ft 195 right now, significantly more muscular then during the season while playing WR/back up RB

I dont know how its possible to get heavier during track, but this kid is doing it....maybe he will thin out as the season progresses.

[oldathlete]

Mcguffie is not near as tall as he is being advertised, but it does not matter because he is a stud and will be a top player for some lucky D1 college.

I think so much of him, that if the Aggies do not get him, I hope he does not land in the big 12.

Some of the best backs of all time at any level have been around 5'9", so whats all the fuss about?

I will tell you and I will be zapped, but it is becuase he is white, sorry but reverse discrimination at the skill positions is real.

[Living Legend]

I though that when there was a rivals symbol next to the measurement that it was official? If that is the case shouldnt he officially be 6'0'' ft 185?

[sttirf111]

Mcguffie is not near as tall as he is being advertised, but it does not matter because he is a stud and will be a top player for some lucky D1 college.

I think so much of him, that if the Aggies do not get him, I hope he does not land in the big 12.

Some of the best backs of all time at any level have been around 5'9", so whats all the fuss about?

I will tell you and I will be zapped, but it is becuase he is white, sorry but reverse discrimination at the skill positions is real.

Could not agree anymore!

[sttirf111]

I agree with txfoosball.
WHO CARES HOW TALL HE IS!!!!
He has offers from Flordia, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Minnesota...what other Junoir running back in Texas comes even close to those kind of offers. Obviously they aren't worried if hes 5-9 or 6-0 all they care about is that he produces.

[CyFallsMom]

Personally, and this is my opinion, I am tired of hearing two things: That he isn't big enough and that he is white. Neither one matters - anybody who has seen this kid play knows that. We held him to a bad night of only 200 yards...he still hurdled one of our guys and he still had plenty of yards. I don't know how his new O-Line will be but I would place bets that he will still have a stellar year. I hope he goes on to bigger and better things and is so successful that even those on here who have never met him, seen him play or have dogged him say "Hey, I watched that guy in high school":)

[CO99JTHS]

Ronnie Fields...former HS teammate of Kevin Garnett...jumps out the gym... a serious neck injury kept him from being the next big thing...

[cf bobcats cf]

Did cy fair test 40's today my friend said he(sam)ran a pretty fast time, but didnt know what it was?:confused:

[CyFair'86]

I agree with txfoosball.
WHO CARES HOW TALL HE IS!!!!
He has offers from Flordia, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan, and Minnesota...what other Junoir running back in Texas comes even close to those kind of offers. Obviously they aren't worried if hes 5-9 or 6-0 all they care about is that he produces.

Wow I just saw rivals.com reporting that Florida had offered him this weekend. I read this post earlier, and don't know how I missed it.

It must feel great to get an offer from the National Champs.

[cyfallsbooster2]

The kid is simply amazing on the field and any discussion of anything else is simply useless. Once you SEE what this kid can do, you just have to sit back and admire it. When Falls played Fair I was cheering his accomplishments and hoping Falls could stop him. I felt Falls was lucky Fair chose not to put the ball in his hands on the last 3 plays!