SLC Vs PEHS Game

[SLCFollower]

What did you think about the SLC offense this game.

My issues:

1. Running game very much up in the air.
2. Speedy defense/blitzing could be McElroy's down fall.

[SLCDad]

Final:
SLC 31
PEHS 0

Game closer than score indicates. PEHS defense was very good. Renfrow caught a great TD pass in 2nd quarter but didn't play again (don't know why). Jacobsen fumbled two punts with one recovery going to Plano East. Fentriss was the best receiver tonight with over 100 yards and at least 1 TD. McElroy had a couple of very nice long TD passes. SLC defense totally shut PEHS down; don't know their yardage total but could be less than 100 yards total offense for the game. SLC's Kevin Ortega kicked a 50 yard FG. Lots and lots of penalties.

The score was typical of SLC but the game was totally unlike a SLC game. Not the prettiest game but we'll take the win.

[RAB-07]

Final:
SLC 31
PEHS 0

Game closer than score indicates. PEHS defense was very good. Renfrow caught a great TD pass in 2nd quarter but didn't play again (don't know why). Jacobsen fumbled two punts with one recovery going to Plano East. Fentriss was the best receiver tonight with over 100 yards and at least 1 TD. McElroy had a couple of very nice long TD passes. SLC defense totally shut PEHS down; don't know their yardage total but could be less than 100 yards total offense for the game. SLC's Kevin Ortega kicked a 50 yard FG. Lots and lots of penalties.

The score was typical of SLC but the game was totally unlike a SLC game. Not the prettiest game but we'll take the win.


I think the reason renfo didn't play was because of the unsportman like conduct call. From what I was told (wasn't paying attention at the time) He like spiked the ball or was like all "OH yeah" or something of that nature.

[SLCFollower]

He hurt his shoulder & will be out for a while!!

[c-lisle]

What did you think about the SLC offense this game.

My issues:

1. Running game very much up in the air.
2. Speedy defense/blitzing could be McElroy's down fall.


If that is true I know two teams who are going to give them fits this year. Lview and LP. Are you saying they may be one-dimensional on offense?

[Dds115]

That had to be one of, if not THE slowest SLC game I've ever seen. :confused: What was the deal with that call that took 15 minutes for the refs to decided what the heck to do. 4th quarter, 7:37 to go. I think that was on the scoreboard for 15 minutes! I'm sorry, but that game was boring... :(

[Dds115]

He hurt his shoulder & will be out for a while!!
Hey man, that's what isn't supposed to be posted anymore.

[SLCFollower]

Right now I feel they are one-dimensional. I am afraid Dodge is a little concerned with the running game and very much focused on throwing. I think they will be in good shape by the time the playoffs roll around!!

[SLCFollower]

They said it on the post-game show.....Give it a rest!!

[BAMF cowboy]

As said earlier, it was a very un SLC like game tonight. It was only 17 - 0 until late in the 4th. The defense definitely pulled their weight, and probably had the first SLC shutout in god knows how long! IMO, right now, SLC are not even close to being the state's #1 team. Will they be in december...probably. But right now there are things that still need work.

This is the 3rd consecuctive game where we've had a terribly slow start!

[dragonbuck]

SLC running game looked good last week with a nice 60/40 balance, pass to run. Tonight was ugly for the offense by SLC standards. I may have miscounted, but I had PESH with only 1 first down in the 1st half that they earned on offense and may have had 2 others on penalties. Then maybe 2 in the 2nd half. Defense really stepped up and delivered a complete game.

Have to give props to the PESH DB's. Overall, they played SLC recievers well which resulted in McElroy sacks. He took way too much time to throw the ball tonight. He should have thrown it away on several occasions. Can't expect the line to keep them out for 8 seconds without a hold or two.

Ugly win by SLC standards, but we are spoiled. Great job defense! Padron, Benoit and Reece all had solid games at LB. DB's had a good one also. Nice job Scott Simpson and other CB's.

Defense A-
Offnese C+

[dragons08]

This is the 3rd consecuctive game where we've had a terribly slow start!
were kind of spoiled, used to the quick TD in the first min, now we have to wait till the 2nd quarter, im trying to start the "lets go dragons" chant a little earlier than id like, id prefer 3rd quater, but going to have to use it in the first quarter now. anyone have stats on mcelroy? it seemed like A LOT of dropped balls and the running game was welll....not to good, im sure once moorfield and newton get clicking they'll go on a tear, one day this team will click and BAM, they'd be unstoppable

[Dds115]

What about Ashlock, he was all over that ball!!! I was very impressed with his game tonight.

[eagleike]

I have said all along that the spread offense is only really effective with a qb that can run. SLC is missing that ingredient this year and it will be the undoing of the mighty dragons in the end.

[dragons08]

Defense A-
Offnese C+
kept them scoreless so thatd be A+

won by 31, how many teams would like a 31-0 nothing shut out and be C+, i'll admitt it wasnt a typical SLC game, but were spoiled with high offesnive shows, and we won by more than we did against midland lee, so the offense should be at least a B

[SLCDRGN]

Eagle,

It's not just the QB..........Moorefield & Newton don't seem to be part of the game plan until the game is decided. The SLC offense is different than what I am esed to seeing............Dodge wants to pass, pass & pass!

Does anyone else get the feeling Dodge does not trust the backs yet??

[dragons08]

Eagle,

It's not just the QB..........Moorefield & Newton don't seem to be part of the game plan until the game is decided. The SLC offense is different than what I am esed to seeing............Dodge wants to pass, pass & pass!

Does anyone else get the feeling Dodge does not trust the backs yet??
well why keep trying to run, when your picking up a yard or 2 versus picking up 10 on every 2 throws or what ever? ya know, see thats what made our offense so good last year..CHASE DANIEL! mcelroy may have the better arm, but chase could run, and the opposing team didnt know what to cover his running or his throwing, if mcelroy had some speed to him oooooohhhhhhhhhh man, a GREAT ARM and speed, hed be unstoppable, i thnk dodge will slowly get the running game working, and we'll be fine

[dragonbuck]

Sorry Dragons08, I don't give an A+ for shutting out a 1-2 football team. PESH had good team speed and our D strung them out along the line of scrimmage very well. If we had not dropped 3 interceptions, then I would have given them an A+.

Offensive stats, fumble and penalties force me to give them a C+. I may be spoiled, but I'm also a tough grader.

I think Coppell is better team thean PESH. If Coppell could throw the ball, they would be dangerous.

[dragons08]

Sorry Dragons08, I don't give an A+ for shutting out a 1-2 football team. PESH had good team speed and our D strung them out along the line of scrimmage very well. If we had not dropped 3 interceptions, then I would have given them an A+.

Offensive stats, fumble and penalties force me to give them a C+. I may be spoiled, but I'm also a tough grader.

I think Coppell is better team thean PESH. If Coppell could throw the ball, they would be dangerous.
we had 2 INTS right, and i saw like 1 drop, where that dude obviously had it dont know how he dropped it, but explains why hes on D and not Offense :D , im thinking the off week will be benifical, coach dodge will whip these boys into tredmondous form, expect a big game after the bye week against fossil ridge? i think, but i think coach dodge will get most of this fixed, im am not one ounce worried at all about this team

[myround0]

kept them scoreless so thatd be A+

won by 31, how many teams would like a 31-0 nothing shut out and be C+, i'll admitt it wasnt a typical SLC game, but were spoiled with high offesnive shows, and we won by more than we did against midland lee, so the offense should be at least a B

you kept your starters in the entire game...Longview had 31 points at the break and the starting backfield we on the sidelines except freeman when he came in to punt...obviously you felt threaten or you was padding your stats...either way you didn't get it done early...I will be watching SLC

[dragons08]

you kept your starters in the entire game...Longview had 31 points at the break and the starting backfield we on the sidelines except freeman when he came in to punt...obviously you felt threaten or you was padding your stats...either way you didn't get it done early...I will be watching SLC
yea we strugle in the 1st quarter, its kind of nerve racking for a dragon fan, usually expect like i said before a quick td to get you pumped up, but when we have the no score for a while thing its hard to stay pumped up ya know? so thats why i start the Lets go Dragons chant early 2nd quarter, usually gets some band people woken up

[myround0]

yea we strugle in the 1st quarter, its kind of nerve racking for a dragon fan, usually expect like i said before a quick td to get you pumped up, but when we have the no score for a while thing its hard to stay pumped up ya know? so thats why i start the Lets go Dragons chant early 2nd quarter, usually gets some band people woken up

I will be watching you guys...I think there is a good chance we might finally meet this year, so I will be doing my homework...

[dragons08]

anybody notice Drew Bledsoe at the game? last year we had a cowboy player at every home game

roy williams, eddie george, julius jones i belive, the dallas cowboy cheerleaders were at a game, and drew bledsoe, there could be more but thats all i saw

[DragonFan]

The Dragons played very un Dragon like. There were several unsportmanlike penalties that really slowed down the game. The Offense never got in rythem and had to get a couple of big plays to keep the game going. It was a 31 point victory so it was a typical SLC score but it was anything but a typical SLC victory! I think the late hits, and unsportmanlike play from PESH completly disrupted the SLC offense.

[dragons08]

The Dragons played very un Dragon like. There were several unsportmanlike penalties that really slowed down the game. The Offense never got in rythem and had to get a couple of big plays to keep the game going. It was a 31 point victory so it was a typical SLC score but it was anything but a typical SLC victory! I think the late hits, and unsportmanlike play from PESH completly disrupted the SLC offense.
i was getting fed up with those late hits, like the one riley ran in, he was clearly in, and then gets nailed, almost into the stands with the emerlad belles, anyone see Dr. Presley, when that guy ran riley out of bounds, it seemed like he was giving riley a lil help there with that LB i think it was who was a lil bigger than riley...

[c-lisle]

The Dragons played very un Dragon like. There were several unsportmanlike penalties that really slowed down the game. The Offense never got in rythem and had to get a couple of big plays to keep the game going. It was a 31 point victory so it was a typical SLC score but it was anything but a typical SLC victory! I think the late hits, and unsportmanlike play from PESH completly disrupted the SLC offense.

maybe the undragon like play wll be the dragon way this year. really the odds are seriously stacked against another state title. the quick strike is a big part of slc's dominance. y'all intimidate teams that way. if its slow starting or inconsistent that will hurt and agood team will beat y'all.

[SLC13]

I will be watching you guys...I think there is a good chance we might finally meet this year, so I will be doing my homework...You might want to spend some time scouting LP first, since you can't seem to get past them. ;)

[c-lisle]

You might want to spend some time scouting LP first, since you can't seem to get past them. ;)

they are young and inexperienced on O....if we play themthis year we will beat them. very good D, but still can't stop our run game.

[southlake thug]

Ugly game, McElroy got killed in the backfield. He took a complete beating, anyone have any estimates on a number of sacks that he took? I noticed alot of blocking problems with both Moorfield and Newton.

I must say, Big Mike Boydston was a disruptive force the entire game. Big props to him and the entire D.

[PantherStang84]

they are young and inexperienced on O....if we play themthis year we will beat them. very good D, but still can't stop our run game.

I think we heard this one last year. Dusting off the old cliche's are we??????

10 straight and counting!

[c-lisle]

I think we heard this one last year. Dusting off the old cliche's are we??????

10 straight and counting!


actually no....y'all were much better last year...except on D. you wont be able to hang with us offensively.

[SLC13]

they are young and inexperienced on O....if we play themthis year we will beat them. very good D, but still can't stop our run game.The odds certainly would seem in your favor, if nothing else.

All I know is for three years we been waiting in the semi's for another team in green to show up, but each year it's a team in purple.....:)

[c-lisle]

The odds certainly would seem in your favor, if nothing else.

All I know is for three years we been waiting in the semi's for another team in green to show up, but each year it's a team in purple.....:)


hopefully we wont dissappoint you this year.

[PantherStang84]

actually no....y'all were much better last year...except on D. you wont be able to hang with us offensively.

This will be my last post on this thread because it is not a Lufkin or L'View thread. However, there is a lot of football to played until week 14. We are only in Week 2. See ya down the road.

[c-lisle]

This will be my last post on this thread because it is not a Lufkin or L'View thread. However, there is a lot of football to played until week 14. We are only in Week 2. See ya down the road.

i hope we see you down the road. ill be rooting for LP to make it.

[implacable44]

Like I said in the other thread - you might run up against a team that realizes if they blitz and put pressure on mcelroy -- you will be in trouble -- well if they have the dbs to stay with the receivers - but when slc is successful is when the qb has 5 or 10 seconds to throw-- which is the norm in dragon land. if plano east had any offense at all this would have been a much better game. beware the blitz !

[Sakatha]

0 -

Shouldn't you be worried about Lufkin and not SLC?

Your priorities are out of whack. You will see the Pack before Carroll in *Any* bracket this fall.

~DnM

[rich_pack]

If Carrolls D keeps playing like that, you should have nothing to worry about until playoff time. Yall are in a very weak district and should breeze into the playoffs. As for Lufkin having a unexperienced offense, tell that to Ike, and PA Memorial. That new qb had 300 yards passing and 2 tds, last night. not bad....

[SLC13]

Like I said in the other thread - you might run up against a team that realizes if they blitz and put pressure on mcelroy -- you will be in trouble -- well if they have the dbs to stay with the receivers - but when slc is successful is when the qb has 5 or 10 seconds to throw-- which is the norm in dragon land. if plano east had any offense at all this would have been a much better game. beware the blitz !I thought PESH did a nice job of mixing their defenses. While they had some big QB sacks from their blitz packages, it appeared to me that they dropped in coverage as much as they blitzed...... The biggest keys to me was that all of their DB's could cover and that we didn't/couldn't run very well against their 3 man line.

I think the PESH "D" will be one of the best we face this year. There are only a handful of teams in the state that will have the total defensive package required to slow us down and enough offense to be in position to win the game.

[SLC13]

Ugly game, McElroy got killed in the backfield. He took a complete beating, anyone have any estimates on a number of sacks that he took? I noticed alot of blocking problems with both Moorfield and Newton.

I must say, Big Mike Boydston was a disruptive force the entire game. Big props to him and the entire D.

Thug......I think McElroy was sacked 5 times, hardly a beating. We should be more concerned why we couldn't run the ball very well.

I, too, want to give kudo's to the "D" for a shutout and for holding a team under 100 yds.......even a team as offensively inept as PESH.

[SLC13]

If Carrolls D keeps playing like that, you should have nothing to worry about until playoff time. Yall are in a very weak district and should breeze into the playoffs. As for Lufkin having a unexperienced offense, tell that to Ike, and PA Memorial. That new qb had 300 yards passing and 2 tds, last night. not bad....
Thank Pack........Nice win for you guys too. :)

[c-lisle]

If Carrolls D keeps playing like that, you should have nothing to worry about until playoff time. Yall are in a very weak district and should breeze into the playoffs. As for Lufkin having a unexperienced offense, tell that to Ike, and PA Memorial. That new qb had 300 yards passing and 2 tds, last night. not bad....

Exactly...PAM and IKE, I think we have to consider the competition. And Lufkin won't play a really good team until the playoffs.

[southlake thug]

Thug......I think McElroy was sacked 5 times, hardly a beating. We should be more concerned why we couldn't run the ball very well.

I, too, want to give kudo's to the "D" for a shutout and for holding a team under 100 yds.......even a team as offensively inept as PESH.


O well i thought it was more then that. But I totally agree that we need to find a way to run.

[PackAttack2005]

Southlake has alll the components again. That is the problem with most people like Longview, they really don't want to give you the credit for having a complete team. Everybody always talks about the SLC offense, well they have a great defense as well that doesn't get much publicity. Longview doesn't need to worry about SLC or Lufkin playing any competition. They need to worry about how they have only beat a good 4A Marshall team, an over-rated West Monroe, La. team, an un-ranked mediocre Lake Highlands 5A team and will now play a depleted Evangel team that was rocked by 4A Texarkana last night 45-10.

Southlake, I don't see many standing in your way until the later rounds of the playoffs.

[southlake thug]

Well we deff. have some things to work on by playoff time. But I know after this bye week the "O" will be back and this will look more like the SLC that we are used to. I gotta give some props to the little man Ortega. The kid kicked a nice 50 yarder. And as usual, the punting game needs alot of work (on kicking and returning).

[drgnbkr]

Well we deff. have some things to work on by playoff time. But I know after this bye week the "O" will be back and this will look more like the SLC that we are used to. I gotta give some props to the little man Ortega. The kid kicked a nice 50 yarder. And as usual, the punting game needs alot of work (on kicking and returning).

The fact that we had to punt was frustrating...at least he got the ball down the field..that was encouraging, but a 29 yard avg is not going to help a lot..the 50 yard field goal at the end of the 1st half was nice. It was an odd game...never developed any sort of rythm, the refs were completely befuddled, not bad, just confused.....I feel bad for the PESH offense, the Dragons D completely swamped them, and the QB was always pointing his finger at one of his guys, when he might do better looking in the mirror...

[dragons08]

Well we deff. have some things to work on by playoff time. But I know after this bye week the "O" will be back and this will look more like the SLC that we are used to. I gotta give some props to the little man Ortega. The kid kicked a nice 50 yarder. And as usual, the punting game needs alot of work (on kicking and returning).
yessss ortega man!! it seems his leg has gotten a lot stronger this year! i think the punting average was like 30 something yards, not incredibly horrible, but not good either, i think that'll get fixed in the near future, mckay just had a off night, one of those fumbles while returning a punt it looked like the ball had a weird spin and was tough to catch

[southlake thug]

Yeah that is true. We are not used to this much punting.

[southlake thug]

yessss ortega man!! it seems his leg has gotten a lot stronger this year! i think the punting average was like 30 something yards, not incredibly horrible, but not good either, i think that'll get fixed in the near future, mckay just had a off night, one of those fumbles while returning a punt it looked like the ball had a weird spin and was tough to catch


Yeah i noticed that also.

[rich_pack]

I will say, future looks bright the next few years at southlake, because that Newton kid looks like he is going to ad some fire to the offense when he gets going. Him along the the with the recieving crew should be challenging the next few years for opponents. Now a question, I am from Lufkin, but live in Wylie now, its hard to change from a huge fan base school to a average fan base 4a school. I really like watching Southlake when I can, but how hard is it to get seats at the stadium in Southlake? I work until 5:30 in Addisson and can not get over there to early, but really want to make it a few times. Hard to find another school with such a fine fan base like Lufkin, SLC, Longview, Tyler Lee, and a few others.

[DragonFan]

New team, new players, missed oppurtunities, great defense, lack of disciplen and lots of penelties. That is the game in a nutshell. I was sitting with several people and we all agreed that there will be lots of bear crawls in store for monday! I do not like the attitude that I saw on the field. This team has nothing to have an attitude about! They have won 3 straight games but right now so have a lot of other teams. The offensive line must work better together and the backs have got to learn to block! There were several missed blocks by the backs that contributed to the passing game problems. I also did not think that the recievers were working very well with McElroy when he had to move around. I saw several of them kind of stop and wonder what they should be doing. Seems that the communcation and feel between McElroy and the recievers was a little out of sync.

Return coverage was better than last year but they still got a couple good run backs. I am glad it is two weeks before the next game. It is time to look at the good, the bad, and the ugly and see what needs to be fixed or polised.

[southlake thug]

Yeah like I said, this team really needs the bye week. They will be getting Buford back for Fossill Ridge which which will really help the O-line.

There was alot of attitude from the players becasue of the dirty playing by PEHS. You may have noticed all of the late hits and unecessary things by PEHS. It was once agian, a "filthy" game.

[c-lisle]

Southlake has alll the components again. That is the problem with most people like Longview, they really don't want to give you the credit for having a complete team. Everybody always talks about the SLC offense, well they have a great defense as well that doesn't get much publicity. Longview doesn't need to worry about SLC or Lufkin playing any competition. They need to worry about how they have only beat a good 4A Marshall team, an over-rated West Monroe, La. team, an un-ranked mediocre Lake Highlands 5A team and will now play a depleted Evangel team that was rocked by 4A Texarkana last night 45-10.

Southlake, I don't see many standing in your way until the later rounds of the playoffs.

WM and Marshall will probably win their respective state titles this year. I agree ECA is not very good this year...but still way better than IKE and PAM.

[dragons08]

Yeah like I said, this team really needs the bye week. They will be getting Buford back for Fossill Ridge which which will really help the O-line.

There was alot of attitude from the players becasue of the dirty playing by PEHS. You may have noticed all of the late hits and unecessary things by PEHS. It was once agian, a "filthy" game.
yep it seemed as if the Offense was in a little funk, im sure coach dodge has everything he needs to improve on, expect a hard week of practice, i think we'll have a big game against fossil ridge

[SLC13]

I will say, future looks bright the next few years at southlake, because that Newton kid looks like he is going to ad some fire to the offense when he gets going. Him along the the with the recieving crew should be challenging the next few years for opponents. Now a question, I am from Lufkin, but live in Wylie now, its hard to change from a huge fan base school to a average fan base 4a school. I really like watching Southlake when I can, but how hard is it to get seats at the stadium in Southlake? I work until 5:30 in Addisson and can not get over there to early, but really want to make it a few times. Hard to find another school with such a fine fan base like Lufkin, SLC, Longview, Tyler Lee, and a few others.For most games.......the home side, non-reserved seating is pretty full by about 6:45-7:00, but you can usually find seats on the visitors side up until KO. Another option, is the grassy areas at either end of the Home stands. Many folks bring a foldup chair and sit there. :)

[drgnbkr]

Its PESH. Plano East Senior High.
.

Wow, are'nt you consumed with envy...did you actually see the game? You guys could have played for a week and not moved the ball..find an offense and get back to us.... :confused:

[Eastside07]

That game was garbage. SLC is not all that they are hyped up to be. SLC was held scoreless in 2 quarters by the #19 team in the area. I'll admit that our offense isn't very good, so holding them scoreless as Garland did in week 0 is no big accomplishment. East would have led 14-0 at one point if the refs would have pulled their heads out. Whats up with the 20 minute 3rd quarter intermission? Yeah, and it's Plano East Senior High School aka PESH, not PEHS.

[drgnbkr]

PESH or PEHS...you got your butts handed to you when Carroll played probably their worst offensive game in 5 years....It takes a team to succeed in football and even though your D had a decent game, you can't win unless you can move the ball....6 first downs? Quit whining and find an offense....

[Eastside07]

Your offense played bad because our defense played good. I'm tired of hearing people say that it was a very un dragon like game. It was that way because the pesh defense threw the SLC offense off. Nobody wants to hear SLC fans patting themselves on the backs because they won a game that they should have won anyways. Don't count on winning another state title this year because there are teams with even better defenses out there that have a good O to back them up.

[RAB-07]

Its PESH. Plano East Senior High.




errr....ban?

and the cheerleaders aren't fat and ugly

[dragons08]

Its PESH. Plano East Senior High.

.
i take it you were one of the few yelling "DORKS DORKS DORKS DORKS" at halftime, i thought about giving you guys the finger, or pointing to the scoreboard, but then i thought, why stoop down to that level

[drgnbkr]

Your offense played bad because our defense played good. I'm tired of hearing people say that it was a very un dragon like game. It was that way because the pesh defense threw the SLC offense off. Nobody wants to hear SLC fans patting themselves on the backs because they won a game that they should have won anyways. Don't count on winning another state title this year because there are teams with even better defenses out there that have a good O to back them up.

I guess you would be an authority at not winning a championship...you've had a lot of experience... :cool:

[dragons08]

Its PESH. Plano East Senior High.
.
we have more than one black guy and lets not make this a racist thing

pay off the refs? im curious how many late hits and crap like that did you guys get away with?

cheerleaders fat and ugly? they look pretty skinny and hot to me

our band is fat and ugly? ahhh im going to go with no, black makes you look slimmer :p

just becasue our coaches are better no need to diss them

just because we have an acutal run through that gets people pumped vs your i dont even know if you can call it a run through..

stadium is one of the nicest around, big price tag on it as well

i was just thinking..."fat and ugly" you used to diss everybody, talk about orginal... :rolleyes: , please dont post on here if you have NO IDEA about what your talking about or just trying to start fights

[drgnbkr]

Let him have his fun..he sure did'nt have any last night.... :D

[DrEdward]

Its PESH. Plano East Senior High.
.


Trash talk is one thing, but the board monitors should give serious consideration to banning you from posting here. Try to show at least a bit of class.

[dragons08]

Let him have his fun..he sure did'nt have any last night.... :D
i guess your right, its weird for him to say that though considering he has no idea whats he talking about

[drgnbkr]

i guess your right, its weird for him to say that though considering he has no idea whats he talking about

Let his ignorance be obvious to all who can read......

[southlake thug]

That game was garbage. SLC is not all that they are hyped up to be. SLC was held scoreless in 2 quarters by the #19 team in the area. I'll admit that our offense isn't very good, so holding them scoreless as Garland did in week 0 is no big accomplishment. East would have led 14-0 at one point if the refs would have pulled their heads out. Whats up with the 20 minute 3rd quarter intermission? Yeah, and it's Plano East Senior High School aka PESH, not PEHS.


If I ever see you, there will most deff. be a beat down. I think i might come up to Plano tommorrow.

And i don't know if you realize this, but SLC scored 31 points on you. I would probably not consider that a good Defensive performance. The game is also 4 quarters long, so it is pretty irrelevent what the halftime score is.

[Favpack]

Kudos to KT - he's had his hands full today - I'm sure East side will be history come sun-up.

Good job moderators - posts are at record levels - and unfortunately many have been in the gutter today. This dude will be toast some day soon.

[RAB-07]

we roll deep nig. come to P-town and we will beat down ur trick ***.


hold up, I have a question now

You seem to have contradicted yourself. You made clear that at SLC there was only 1 black student, yet you come back and start calling somebody a nig? I'm so confused...... :eek: :p

[drgnbkr]

They post like they play football...except that their posts are pretty offensive while their game is definately not.... :cool:

[dragons08]

They post like they play football...except that their posts are pretty offensive while their game is definately not.... :cool:
haahhahahahahahha that was funny, i was just thinking...what if we won 56-25, still 31 points, i think most people wouldnt be like whats up with the dragons and what not, oh well

[LUFPAN]

Final:
SLC 31
PEHS 0

Game closer than score indicates. PEHS defense was very good. Renfrow caught a great TD pass in 2nd quarter but didn't play again (don't know why). Jacobsen fumbled two punts with one recovery going to Plano East. Fentriss was the best receiver tonight with over 100 yards and at least 1 TD. McElroy had a couple of very nice long TD passes. SLC defense totally shut PEHS down; don't know their yardage total but could be less than 100 yards total offense for the game. SLC's Kevin Ortega kicked a 50 yard FG. Lots and lots of penalties.

The score was typical of SLC but the game was totally unlike a SLC game. Not the prettiest game but we'll take the win.

Man...you South Lake guys are even more spoiled than us Lufkin fans. 31-0 but the game was closer than the score indicated? You guys sure are hard on your team.

[dragons08]

Man...you South Lake guys are even more spoiled than us Lufkin fans. 31-0 but the game was closer than the score indicated? You guys sure are hard on your team.
we just played sloppy on offense, a ton of errors, this game could of easily been 50-0, but oh well we'll practice and improve with the off week

[JC73]

we just played sloppy on offense, a ton of errors, this game could of easily been 50-0, but oh well we'll practice and improve with the off week

When SLC plays "sloppy" and wins 31-0, I think that is a mark of a great team. Us here at Smithson Valley know this all too well.

[SLCDad]

Man...you South Lake guys are even more spoiled than us Lufkin fans. 31-0 but the game was closer than the score indicated? You guys sure are hard on your team.It was 17-0 in the 4th Quarter and the last touchdown was a gimmie when PESH went for it on 4th down deep in their own territory.

Actually there were some bright spots for SLC. Defense was great (87 TOTAL offensive yards for PESH). Ortega kicked a 50 yard FG. McElroy made some very nice long throws.

[toonman]

It was 17-0 in the 4th Quarter and the last touchdown was a gimmie when PESH went for it on 4th down deep in their own territory.

Actually there were some bright spots for SLC. Defense was great (87 TOTAL offensive yards for PESH). Ortega kicked a 50 yard FG. McElroy made some very nice long throws.

This is not the SLC that I am used to reading and hearing about. When you say that McElroy had some very nice long throws, this does not fill me with confidence that SLC are the pass-happy, spread offence, point scoring machine of the past 3 years.

Based on performances so far this season, SLC are not playing like a State Championship team. The essence of SLC's game is to score quick and often, so that opponents are always playing catch up and are forced into a game-plan they do not want to use.

SLC does not have a very difficult District schedule, so this gives 7 games to get it right. Once in the Play-offs there will be no room for error as games are played against the best/better teams. The District 2 teams (Longview or Lufkin) are waiting and if SLC are to reach a 4th consecutive State Championship, then significant improvements will need to be made. Yes it is still early in the season, only 3 games have been played, but the SLC machine is still in the shop and needs fine tuning. In District play - I say watch out for Colleyville.

[SLCDad]

This is not the SLC that I am used to reading and hearing about. When you say that McElroy had some very nice long throws, this does not fill me with confidence that SLC are the pass-happy, spread offence, point scoring machine of the past 3 years.

Based on performances so far this season, SLC are not playing like a State Championship team. The essence of SLC's game is to score quick and often, so that opponents are always playing catch up and are forced into a game-plan they do not want to use.

SLC does not have a very difficult District schedule, so this gives 7 games to get it right. Once in the Play-offs there will be no room for error as games are played against the best/better teams. The District 2 teams (Longview or Lufkin) are waiting and if SLC are to reach a 4th consecutive State Championship, then significant improvements will need to be made. Yes it is still early in the season, only 3 games have been played, but the SLC machine is still in the shop and needs fine tuning. In District play - I say watch out for Colleyville.I don't disagree. SLC is still very good. Their passing game is awesome and their defense may be the best yet. However, as I watched the game on Friday SLC looked . . well . . . mortal. Having said that, I wouldn't count them out just yet.

[ALLIN]

Hey toon, what makes Longview and Lufkin so good that they need no improvement right now, you act like they are playing great, and would definitely whoop SLC. Fact is SLC still has not had a close game yet, offense is still avg. like 45 or 50 and the defense is better than last year (based on stats). I would say SLC is right where they need to be at this point. If they are fortunate enough to make it to the 4th or 5th round they will still be the team to beat. I love the high expectations the STATE has on the Carroll program, not just the fans of SLC. Not many teams can win 31-0, get the shutout and still be considered average.

[drgnbkr]

Hey toon, what makes Longview and Lufkin so good that they need no improvement right now, you act like they are playing great, and would definitely whoop SLC. Fact is SLC still has not had a close game yet, offense is still avg. like 45 or 50 and the defense is better than last year (based on stats). I would say SLC is right where they need to be at this point. If they are fortunate enough to make it to the 4th or 5th round they will still be the team to beat. I love the high expectations the STATE has on the Carroll program, not just the fans of SLC. Not many teams can win 31-0, get the shutout and still be considered average.

135 points hung by Carroll in 3 games, with a shutout of PESH, all while the team works in 2 new QB's and 2 new running backs. Nobody said it would be easy, but so far so good.

[toonman]

135 points hung by Carroll in 3 games, with a shutout of PESH, all while the team works in 2 new QB's and 2 new running backs. Nobody said it would be easy, but so far so good.

I think 135 points scored and a 3-0 record is masking the Dragon nation's view of reality. There is a lack of fluidity in the passing game which has been a significant element of the SLC O over the last 3 seasons. Yes, the D may be the best of the SLC 5A teams, but the offence is struggling to achieve both effective and consistent passing and running. As I said there 7 district games to put everything right for the play-offs. Colleyville and possibly Haltom, may provide a challenge and potential upset, but SLC will win District - then the true measure the 2005 SLC Dragons can be made.

[dragonsdaddy]

when the ol gets full strength, in 3 weeks seemingly, our rb's will magically improve, and greg will become more elusive and dodge will return to the play-calling genius he has always been. til then, we'll still beat off and fridge with equal efficiency.

[SLCDad]

when the ol gets full strength, in 3 weeks seemingly, our rb's will magically improve, and greg will become more elusive and dodge will return to the play-calling genius he has always been. til then, we'll still beat off and fridge with equal efficiency.You may want to re-word that last phrase. :eek:

[dragonsdaddy]

it was purposeful, though maybe not well advised. it's quite the old joke.

[DragonFan]

Originally Posted by dragonsdaddy
when the ol gets full strength, in 3 weeks seemingly, our rb's will magically improve, and greg will become more elusive and dodge will return to the play-calling genius he has always been. til then, we'll still beat off and fridge with equal efficiency.

I was not real sure I read this one correctly, it is so unlike the type of statments made from dragonsdaddy. It is mildly funny but not appropriate for this discussion

[dragonsdaddy]

it sounded better than beat bye, well maybe not.

[SLCDad]

it was purposeful, though maybe not well advised. it's quite the old joke.I hadn't heard the old joke. You are quite the wordsmith. I enjoy what you write even if on occasion I have to read your posts twice before I get it. In this case I was left wondering who's offense SLC was going to beat.

[dragonfly]

I think 135 points scored and a 3-0 record is masking the Dragon nation's view of reality. There is a lack of fluidity in the passing game which has been a significant element of the SLC O over the last 3 seasons. Yes, the D may be the best of the SLC 5A teams, but the offence is struggling to achieve both effective and consistent passing and running. As I said there 7 district games to put everything right for the play-offs. Colleyville and possibly Haltom, may provide a challenge and potential upset, but SLC will win District - then the true measure the 2005 SLC Dragons can be made.

With the numbers after the first 3 games, it's hard to complain about the passing game. However, I do agree that the timing is off. But we can't always be clicking and hitting on all cylinders by week 3 every year. They will get better and I look for them to be playing at a very high level come playoffs.

[DragonFan]

The Dragon Fans are not used to seeing the SLC offense have to punt. We have also seen a lot of holding penelties and other stuff that just seems out of sync. I then had to realize that there were not many faces changed from 2003 and the 2004 teams, but this year there are a lot of new faces and a lot of the kids have new roles to play. All in all it is a new season but so far the team is still 3-0 and has shown that it can score quickly, and the defense can stop people. SLC now has a couple of weeks to get the Offense running better! (pun is intended!)

[SLCDad]

The Dragon Fans are not used to seeing the SLC offense have to punt. We have also seen a lot of holding penelties and other stuff that just seems out of sync. I then had to realize that there were not many faces changed from 2003 and the 2004 teams, but this year there are a lot of new faces and a lot of the kids have new roles to play. All in all it is a new season but so far the team is still 3-0 and has shown that it can score quickly, and the defense can stop people. SLC now has a couple of weeks to get the Offense running better! (pun is intended!)We are probably not giving the PEHS defense enough credit. They were much of the cause of what appeared to be a SLC offense that was a bit out of sync. If I'm not mistaken, the PESH defense gave up much less than 100 yards passing per game in their first two.

[football fanatic]

I agree with you SLCdad....PESH had excellent db's with good speed.....how often did you see any of the slc receivers wide open which is usually the norm???

As to a lack of fluidity in the passing game....I think alot of that in the last game was due to the constant interruptions with all of the sideline warnings, penalties, ect......

Guys....the fact is slc is hitting almost 70% of our passes!!! With the best receivor still hurt! Also, Coach Dodge has had to change the offense and the way he has called games the last two years and he too, will get better.....