"Katy Nation" The Book!

[FreshmanTiger]

Well, Texas Football Fans...you now will have a new book to read.:D

"Katy Nation"

Book signing:
Monday, Feb 05; 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM

"Katy Nation" Author Dexter Clay Book Signing at the Merrell Center in Katy sponsored by Westbound Bank.

Have not heard much about it, just know he interview a great deal of football people in Katy. Hope it is as good a Friday Night Lights.

[KT2000]

From what I understand, this book will be more of a historical documentation of the program and there's supposed to be a follow up on the present that's in the works right now.

[FreshmanTiger]

Cool...Now I will be able to build up my knowledge of the past. I have seats next to a great deal of old timers and they pull names out of the past they use to watch or play with all the time. :)

[farmerfan]

From what I understand, this book will be more of a historical documentation of the program and there's supposed to be a follow up on the present that's in the works right now.

There was a similar book about Lewisville that came out in 1994. The title was real original, Friday Night Farmers :rolleyes:. However it is a great book on the history of the Farmers that dates up tothe 1993 season.

[dragonsdaddy]

There was a similar book about Lewisville that came out in 1994. The title was real original, Friday Night Farmers :rolleyes:. However it is a great book on the history of the Farmers that dates up tothe 1993 season.

there was a self-deprecating little tome from the 80's called something like"the greatest high school football in the country" about plano. not well written , or accurate either, for the times with which i was knowledgeable. but it was interesting about some of the "old" teams.

[oldtig]

The books states that "before there was Friday Night Lights, there was Katy Nation." Dexter Clay, author, did a ton of research since being moved to write the book after attending last year's Katy vs. Smithson Valley game at Tully. I've spoken with him a few times for things in the new book. Katy Nation goes all the way back to 1939 I believe when 6 man started at Katy, and the struggles to get athletes off the tractors in the rice fields and onto the football field. Great anecdotes, when the local Baptist preacher coached the team back in the 40's when we went without a coach, how some of the many traditions began, etc. then leads up to the end of the Mike Johnston era in 2003.
Worth looking into.

[Hoodleboy80]

I am very excited about this. When is it supposed to come out? I admire Katy's program, and I can't wait to read about its rich history.

[Bobcat81]

I wouldn't mind havig a copy myself.

[FreshmanTiger]

The books will be available on Jan. 25, 2007 on line at katynation.com for
16.95 or you can come to the book signing on Feb. 5, 2007 at 7:00p.m. and
Mr. Clay will have books to purchase there.:)

[CFlb38 08]

thats so cool....to be apart of a program with such rich tradition that some guy writes a biography of the winning seasons!

[dragonsdaddy]

thats so cool....to be apart of a program with such rich tradition that some guy writes a biography of the winning seasons!

he'd have to go a long way back to write about anything else.

[texalaska]

Book I
Book II
then
The Movie

[ScottS]

Great anecdotes, when the local Baptist preacher coached the team back in the 40's when we went without a coach, how some of the many traditions began, etc. then leads up to the end of the Mike Johnston era in 2003.
Worth looking into.

You guys fired Johnston after he beat SLC in 2003?

[Miss Kitty]

You guys fired Johnston after he beat SLC in 2003?

This can NOT be a serious question.

[CyFallsMom]

Thanks for the info on the book. I can't wait to get a copy to read! The town of Katy itself has such a nice history and its football program has been a big part of that. When I was a kid we went on a field trip to the LH7 Ranch there at the present day Barker Cypress and I-10, we were told stories of the ranch, Barker, Texas and Katy and how the train would make stops at Katy and the ranch and then on into Houston. Katy is the only one of the three still surviving (and thriving)! At that time, it was probably a 3A school so we didn't have get the opportunity to play the little school in the "country" - although we did play Cy Fair and it, too was in the country. As far as the LH7, it ran from that area all the way over to Waller - it was HUGE. One can still see the old ranch house and church if you go down Barker Clodine to the dam. They used to have rodeos there even before the Houston Rodeo started. Just a little lesson in local history!

Anyway, I do want to read this book!!

[Owned05]

You guys fired Johnston after he beat SLC in 2003?

What a dumb question.

[DragonBand06]

What a dumb question.

Sorry we don't live there and follow everything that happens in the athletic program... you going to tell us what went on?

[Miss Kitty]

Sorry we don't live there and follow everything that happens in the athletic program... you going to tell us what went on?

Nothing went on. No Drama. The man just resigned after a very long and successful career at Katy High School. His wife wanted a little of his time while he still had it to give.

[CyFallsMom]

A few years back, many teachers who were at or very near retirement age were retiring when they may not have wanted to due to some new law that would have punished them monetarily for staying put any longer. Anyone after them (i.e. my husband who retires from teaching in 3 years) unfortunately couldn't get out in time. Many of them left the public schools and went to private schools to teach or be in administration. I don't know if Coach Johnston fell into that category but I know a few of about that same age and tenure who did and I felt so bad that they were basically forced to leave a job they really liked because of the new laws the state was putting out there. I heard that our principal fell into the same category (rumor probably - don't know how true) and I really hated that because she was wonderful and we really hated to see her go.

[mojotrain]

Book I
Book II
then
The Movie

Be very careful of what you wish for.

[Katyexrb29]

Be very careful of what you wish for.

Wouldn't that be interesting "Movie about Katy"

[ktrain]

A few years back, many teachers who were at or very near retirement age were retiring when they may not have wanted to due to some new law that would have punished them monetarily for staying put any longer. Anyone after them (i.e. my husband who retires from teaching in 3 years) unfortunately couldn't get out in time. Many of them left the public schools and went to private schools to teach or be in administration. I don't know if Coach Johnston fell into that category but I know a few of about that same age and tenure who did and I felt so bad that they were basically forced to leave a job they really liked because of the new laws the state was putting out there. I heard that our principal fell into the same category (rumor probably - don't know how true) and I really hated that because she was wonderful and we really hated to see her go.

Mom, my understanding is that’s exactly what happened to Coach Johnston.

[KT1ss24]

Be very careful of what you wish for.

There is 2 books and rumor has it that producer type people stopped by and were interested but thats just rumor, could be true but at this point just rumor.

[rwilleby]

There is 2 books and rumor has it that producer type people stopped by and were interested but thats just rumor, could be true but at this point just rumor.

Book one signing is on Feb 5th...

Book two is in the works...

Movie is possible, three studios have interests...

Rumor's from the Katy Times and the writer...

[markp912]

heres some info on the book and stuff from the katy times.

http://katytimes.com/articles/2007/01/11/news/01news.txt

[G-Man]

Mom, my understanding is that’s exactly what happened to Coach Johnston.

Yes, that exactly what happened. Its called "retire, rehire." Private school coaching allows him to get social security credit along with his teacher retirement. I too missed the cutoff age by 4 years...so I get to continue working until I die.:) :)

[Amused]

I'll pass, thank you

[rwilleby]

I'll pass, thank you

On reading the book... buying the book... or commenting on teacher retirement...

[oldtig]

More than anything, coach Johnston had achieved all that any HS coach could want. The vicotry over SLC in '03 was his 200th win as a head coach. He retired as athletic director, then as a Christian man, decided to devote his remaining years as a coach at Houston Christian HS. The Social Security is also a benefit of not being a state funded teacher. It was a good transition for his family as well. We all know the hours that coaches put into their jobs.

[rwilleby]

More than anything, coach Johnston had achieved all that any HS coach could want. The vicotry over SLC in '03 was his 200th win as a head coach. He retired as athletic director, then as a Christian man, decided to devote his remaining years as a coach at Houston Christian HS. The Social Security is also a benefit of not being a state funded teacher. It was a good transition for his family as well. We all know the hours that coaches put into their jobs.
From the outside looking in... Coaching is a job most won't do and many cannot... I really admire the dedication they put into their job... Even those not so successful have to work the late shift... Coach Johnston's many hours at the office helped make Katy a special place to live...

[Drake]

Coach Johnston's many hours at the office helped make Katy a special place to live...Hmmm... And all this time I thought it was the tract housing... :)

[mojotrain]

Cool...Now I will be able to build up my knowledge of the past. I have seats next to a great deal of old timers and they pull names out of the past they use to watch or play with all the time. :)

A history book would be great. Concerning a hollywood movie or a tv series you would be better served to seek stories from the old timers you mention.

[mojotrain]

Before you get too warm and fuzzy about a movie or TV series adapted from a book you must realize, either will be made to make money, as it should be. But you must realize what sells or what brings people to the theater or watch a tv series. It's not rich history. A feel good movie could be made about the early Katy struggles and might sell well. To include todays teams things would need to manafactured to amuse todays movie crowds. That is what will happen. There will be things added, true or not, that will be viewed by the world, at least those that believe hollywood means truth and your town will be percieved as hollywood paints it. We have producers now trying to do a after FNL thing and as far as I know they have gained some interest here but not much.

As a side note a book intitled, "The secret of Mojo" by Regina Walker McCally was written in 1986. A book that was a feel good history book and as you would expect it was well recieved on the northeast side of Odessa but few copys were sold elsewhere.

[rwilleby]

Hmmm... And all this time I thought it was the tract housing... :)

Well... That too!

But, then again they have tract housing all over the State and a sense of community doesn't seem to revolve around them either...

Maybe it's something else...

[Drake]

Well... That too!

But, then again they have tract housing all over the State and a sense of community doesn't seem to revolve around them either...

Maybe it's something else...There you go again thinking everyone envies you... :) Your hs team is good, I understand your sense of pride, but there are other ways of measuring a communities worth besides the won-loss record of the local high school football team, such as... um... uh... Well, JUST because I can't think of any at the moment doesn't mean I'm wrong about that! :D

[rwilleby]

There you go again thinking everyone envies you... :) Your hs team is good, I understand your sense of pride, but there are other ways of measuring a communities worth besides the won-loss record of the local high school football team, such as... um... uh... Well, JUST because I can't think of any at the moment doesn't mean I'm wrong about that! :D

My reference was not from a football point of view... But it is a factor... Honestly I would go, win or lose, just to be a part of the community and support those kids... It's a good time for a good cause...

Anyway, I said a "sense of community"... Like in the old days... in the small towns... where people were proud of where they were from... getting together at the local coffee shop... going to the Rice festival... you know, Mayberry...

Katy has that sense of community and it continues to exist even with the tract houses and shopping malls... Even with new people moving in there are still folks here from way back... Their kids and their kid's kids...

Some may find it a little hokey or small town, but others look at it as an oasis in a desert of, well, not so nice stuff...

Come out on a Saturday morning and have breakfast with some of us... Snappy's makes a mean pecan pancake and the coffee's good too...

[Redclad]

Hmmm... And all this time I thought it was the tract housing... :)

Well Drake, You just said everything about yourself. You have explained it all in one simple sentence. For all the times I failed to hit the "submit reply" button because I thought my response was best left untouched, I feel vindicated. You sir have said it best. You are what you are, and YOU are Strake.

[rellufnalla]

My son has a friend whose grandfather and father also graduated from Katy making him the third generation. I wonder where his son will go to school?

And when he has a family and plans to burn some steaks on the grill on a Sunday afternoon, he will probably get 'em at Midway.

Hopefully, that boy of his will play Katy football.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Well Drake, You just said everything about yourself. You have explained it all in one simple sentence. For all the times I failed to hit the "submit reply" button because I thought my response was best left untouched, I feel vindicated. You sir have said it best. You are what you are, and YOU are Strake.

That's an interesting comment. Are you saying there is something wrong with Strake? Are you saying "Katy" is better than "Strake"? Just trying to understand your response.:confused:

[Drake]

Well Drake, You just said everything about yourself. You have explained it all in one simple sentence. For all the times I failed to hit the "submit reply" button because I thought my response was best left untouched, I feel vindicated. You sir have said it best. You are what you are, and YOU are Strake.Forming a stereotype of any person or group using your opinion of me (or vice versa) would be an unfair and often inaccurate extrapolation... But you know that... :)

[CyFallsMom]

Come out on a Saturday morning and have breakfast with some of us... Snappy's makes a mean pecan pancake and the coffee's good too...

He's really not kidding! Those pecan pancakes must have a pound of pecans in them! The rest of the breakfast isn't too bad either and you look around and it's like small town America - I love it!! That was our launching point for the Semi-Final and Final games and Willeby and KTFiend treated us, the fans of the team who had beat their beloved Tigers, to breakfast and comaraderie (along with KTCarl and Mr. Fiend and young Mr. Fiend) for both of those days. I thought that was such a nice and classy thing to do. They just have some very nice people out in Katy. There are a couple of Katy posters here who are duds too but doesn't every community have at least a couple? As for the "tract housing" comment - if one takes the time to actually go into the town of Katy, there are some really nice homes and you feel like you are in another world because once you get in there, you realize it's actually Small Town Texas. There are some historical homes and some brand new mini-mansions and then go out Katy-Hockley (not the cutoff) and there are some nice ranch type houses too. There is really nothing tract about it.

[Drake]

He's really not kidding! Those pecan pancakes must have a pound of pecans in them! The rest of the breakfast isn't too bad either and you look around and it's like small town America - I love it!! That was our launching point for the Semi-Final and Final games and Willeby and KTFiend treated us, the fans of the team who had beat their beloved Tigers, to breakfast and comaraderie (along with KTCarl and Mr. Fiend and young Mr. Fiend) for both of those days. I thought that was such a nice and classy thing to do. They just have some very nice people out in Katy. There are a couple of Katy posters here who are duds too but doesn't every community have at least a couple? As for the "tract housing" comment - if one takes the time to actually go into the town of Katy, there are some really nice homes and you feel like you are in another world because once you get in there, you realize it's actually Small Town Texas. There are some historical homes and some brand new mini-mansions and then go out Katy-Hockley (not the cutoff) and there are some nice ranch type houses too. There is really nothing tract about it.Mom... Why are you such a kissazz!!? :D

The "tract housing" comment was only meant to be comical derision toward the Rw's corny statement about "Coach Johnston's many hours at the office..." The thing is; it was so touching I had to say something like that just to keep from breaking down right in my office… :)

Oh, and thanks for the synopsis on Katy… Dr. Heitmann was my horse vet for 10 years so I already knew something about Katy, but I’m sure it really opened the eyes of some others to learn that part of Katy’s lure is that it has some small houses, some big houses, and some that are just right… :rolleyes: (Kinda surprising none of their teams are called the bears, huh?)

[rwilleby]

Back on topic... It'll be nice to see the tract houses, Snappy's, the Tigers and Coach Johnston in the book...

[FreshmanTiger]

A history book would be great. Concerning a hollywood movie or a tv series you would be better served to seek stories from the old timers you mention.

I am glad it will be a history book.

"Friday Night Lights" is one of my favorite books and a great movie. The TV show is like 90210 performed in Texas.

If the book about Katy football was a copy of FNL it would not be a special. As they say "been there, done that."

Mojo can not be duplicated.:)
Neither can Katy pride KA-TY, KA-TY, KA-TY...:cool:

[Down n' Out]

My reference was not from a football point of view... But it is a factor... Honestly I would go, win or lose, just to be a part of the community and support those kids... It's a good time for a good cause...

Anyway, I said a "sense of community"... Like in the old days... in the small towns... where people were proud of where they were from... getting together at the local coffee shop... going to the Rice festival... you know, Mayberry...

Katy has that sense of community and it continues to exist even with the tract houses and shopping malls... Even with new people moving in there are still folks here from way back... Their kids and their kid's kids...

Some may find it a little hokey or small town, but others look at it as an oasis in a desert of, well, not so nice stuff...

Come out on a Saturday morning and have breakfast with some of us... Snappy's makes a mean pecan pancake and the coffee's good too...

Great points...I think another aspect is that Katy actually has a town unlike all other schools in the district.

[texalaska]

Great points...I think another aspect is that Katy actually has a town unlike all other schools in the district.


Right

It's like the football team they named the town after. LOL

[Amused]

Hey, I have heard Katy is a great place. In fact, a person can watch pig races out there. I assume everyone knows about the recent pig races out in Katy.

Imagine that - a person could watch pig races in the afternoon and high school football in the evening. Can't beat that. Maybe that should be included in the first episode.

[rwilleby]

Hey, I have heard Katy is a great place. In fact, a person can watch pig races out there. I assume everyone knows about the recent pig races out in Katy.

Imagine that - a person could watch pig races in the afternoon and high school football in the evening. Can't beat that. Maybe that should be included in the first episode.

That's right... I'll take in my first one on Feb 2nd...

But that's a current event and those are not covered until the second book... which, now that I think of it, should also cover Hurricane Rita...

Book signing is on Feb 5th at The Merrill, 7:00-9:30p...

[ktCarl]

Hey, I have heard Katy is a great place. In fact, a person can watch pig races out there. I assume everyone knows about the recent pig races out in Katy.

Imagine that - a person could watch pig races in the afternoon and high school football in the evening. Can't beat that. Maybe that should be included in the first episode.

The thing about the pig races is they will be next door to a mosque. The world has come to Katy.

[rwilleby]

The thing about the pig races is they will be next door to a mosque. The world has come to Katy.

Carl, he knows "the thing"... Just his way of trying to diss Katy...

Back from the high seas?

[Drake]

The thing about the pig races is they will be next door to a mosque. The world has come to Katy.Is that true? Very interesting... Do you think the pig races will be successful in driving away the Muslims?

[Down n' Out]

Is that true? Very interesting... Do you think the pig races will be successful in driving away the Muslims?

Hopefully not...Although the intent seems to be there.

[rwilleby]

Hopefully not...Although the intent seems to be there.

As I understand it, it's a complicated issue...

[ktCarl]

Carl, he knows "the thing"... Just his way of trying to diss Katy...

Back from the high seas?

Jan 21 - 28.

Take good care of Drake while I'm gone. :D

[ktCarl]

Is that true? Very interesting... Do you think the pig races will be successful in driving away the Muslims?

About as much successful as the UIL driving out the private schools. :D

[Drake]

Hopefully not...Although the intent seems to be there.Yes, knowing that pigs are reviled by those of the Muslim faith, that's bad luck for them... I hope if I ever decide to buy land and build myself a place of worship, I remember not to do it in a place where I'm in the ethnic or religious minority...

[rwilleby]

Yes, knowing that pigs are reviled by those of the Muslim faith, that's bad luck for them... I hope if I ever decide to buy land and build myself a place of worship, I remember not to do it in a place where I'm in the ethnic or religious minority...

Or just don't show up and tell your new neighbors it might be a good idea if they sold their property and move off to somewhere else...

[Down n' Out]

Or just don't show up and tell your new neighbors it might be a good idea if they sold their property and move off to somewhere else...

the Mosque isn't going anywhere...as for the pig races:confused:

[Drake]

Or just don't show up and tell your new neighbors it might be a good idea if they sold their property and move off to somewhere else...I'm sure it's a complicated issue as you stated previously... But I personally can't imagine ANY set of circumstances that would justify holding "pig races" next to a mosque, especially if it's being used as some sort of tactic or retribution... Can you?

[Down n' Out]

I'm sure it's a complicated issue as you stated previously... But I personally can't imagine ANY set of circumstances that would justify holding "pig races" next to a mosque, especially if it's being used as some sort of tactic or retribution... Can you?

Nope...Your right

[Down n' Out]

Drake, You bring up an interesting point, getting back to football. What is the deal with prayer by the team's before a game? All religions have some form of prayer but I don't see any, other than Christian. Some of these kid's are not Christians, mine included, and I wonder how it makes them feel.
When I ask the reason, it's always to protect the players from injury, but i find that a little ridiculous that if you are praying for no one to get injured; there wouldn't be any injuries, but there are.

If athlete's are forced to pray to a God that is not of thier faith, you can start to see why they have pig races next to a Mosque. Any other faith is not tolerated or understood, which breeds prejudism.

[rwilleby]

I'm sure it's a complicated issue as you stated previously... But I personally can't imagine ANY set of circumstances that would justify holding "pig races" next to a mosque, especially if it's being used as some sort of tactic or retribution... Can you?

No... And I don't believe there's a Mosque there now... It's land purchased to build one... And the story is deeper than it appears on the surface...

So, can you think of any circumstance where you would buy land, pay a visit to your new neighbor and ask them, in no uncertain terms, to sell their land and find another place to live... Pretty ballsy...

But none of this has anything to do with the book or the movie...

[Drake]

So, can you think of any circumstance where you would buy land, pay a visit to your new neighbor and ask them, in no uncertain terms, to sell their land and find another place to live... Pretty ballsy...

But none of this has anything to do with the book or the movie...I have no more background about this situation than what I've read here but if I had to make my best assumption, it would be that when the neighbors found out the intent for the land was a mosque they made their displeasure known, which was met with a "you don't like it, YOU can leave" attitude by the new land owners... Isn't this the way these sort of things usually degenerate?

Regardless, it's pretty clear you have some knowledge of the circumstances and since, as you say, there is alot of animosity involved, credence is lent to the assumption that the "pig races" are intended to harass and/or intimidate those that would dare build a mosque at that location...

I gather you are against the mosque being built... Why?

[Miss Kitty]

I think what he is against is people moving in and trying to take over. Especially when the people who are already there have been there for generations.

[Drake]

Drake, You bring up an interesting point, getting back to football. What is the deal with prayer by the team's before a game? All religions have some form of prayer but I don't see any, other than Christian. Some of these kid's are not Christians, mine included, and I wonder how it makes them feel.
When I ask the reason, it's always to protect the players from injury, but i find that a little ridiculous that if you are praying for no one to get injured; there wouldn't be any injuries, but there are.

If athletes are forced to pray to a God that is not of thier faith, you can start to see why they have pig races next to a Mosque. Any other faith is not tolerated or understood, which breeds prejudism.You must be talking in theory because group prayer before, during, or after a public school activity is pretty much a thing of the past. It's always seemed like such a silly issue to me because I don't think God cares if we pray as a group or individually before or after a football game. For us majority Christians that squeal about not being able to pray, well... who's stopping us? I can bow my head any time I want and say a prayer, even right before a kickoff. So can any player or anyone else of any religion. If the act of praying must be socialized then why not have an optional “moment of silence” to be used by anyone as they see fit? Wouldn’t this cover the needs for just about anyone in the stands? Heck, even the atheists could use the few extra moments to get settled and ready to watch the game, couldn’t they?

[Drake]

I think what he is against is people moving in and trying to take over. Especially when the people who are already there have been there for generations.Well, I'm against that too! I just assumed they legally bought the land, it was zoned for a church facility, they had the proper permits, were within the guidelines of any deed restrictions or HOA rules, and only intended to build on their own property... If this isn't the case then NO WONDER they're starting "pig races" on the adjacent property!

[Redhoss]

Mr. Drake, the way I saw it reported was the Muslims came in and bought adjacent property next to those who had owned theirs for generations.
Then because they will need more land, they suggested the owner sell and move elsewhere.
I suppose the farm owner decided to use the vile pig races to deter the muslims afterward rather than fighting it out in the courts.
Can't say as I blame them.
The only thing worse is the government forcing people out with Eminent Domain for the wrong reasons.:mad:

[KT2000]

Let's keep this on the original subject, please.

[CyFallsMom]

Just to throw my .02 in - I had read in the paper that the muslim group was asking him to leave - to move somewhere else so they would have more room for parking. If that's the case, maybe they just need to buy a bigger parcel of land. In the same article, it said that if the Bakers were willing to pay him for what he paid plus some, he would move his site elsewhere. That's extortion!!! The Bakers have been in the area for generations (I think the street is named after them) and I think they should have been treated with a little more respect than the steamroller treatment they got. The pig races aren't the way to go about it but I did get a chuckle about it after i heard what the guy was doing to him.

[CyFallsMom]

Let's keep this on the original subject, please.

And that was.....

Just Kidding. But that area of town is a part of Katy Nation isn't it? Or is only Katy proper included. If they do one called Cypress Nation - and only included the town it would be a short book - It's located behind the new Lowe's on 290 by Blackhorse Ranch. It consists of a dance hall, a barber shop and one or two other buildings. That is Cypress if anyone was wondering. They are fixing it up and going to use the dance hall for functions. There used to be hot mineral springs out there and people came all he way out from Houston to reap the benefits.

[Drake]

Let's keep this on the original subject, please.Hmmm... You didn't use to censor so much... Seemed like as long as the posters remained respectful of each other, you'd pretty much let the threads skew their natural course...

[Bobcat81]

And that was.....

Just Kidding. But that area of town is a part of Katy Nation isn't it? Or is only Katy proper included. If they do one called Cypress Nation - and only included the town it would be a short book - It's located behind the new Lowe's on 290 by Blackhorse Ranch. It consists of a dance hall, a barber shop and one or two other buildings. That is Cypress if anyone was wondering. They are fixing it up and going to use the dance hall for functions. There used to be hot mineral springs out there and people came all he way out from Houston to reap the benefits.

Ah yes,..."Hot Wells". Used to have a little of everything out there. The Lamars' had a big thing going back then. The shooting range is still holding on though.

[Drake]

Mr. Drake, the way I saw it reported was the Muslims came in and bought adjacent property next to those who had owned theirs for generations.
Then because they will need more land, they suggested the owner sell and move elsewhere.
I suppose the farm owner decided to use the vile pig races to deter the muslims afterward rather than fighting it out in the courts.
Can't say as I blame them.
The only thing worse is the government forcing people out with Eminent Domain for the wrong reasons.:mad:Well, this is the guys story: http://www.americanpigrace.com/ Sure wants to make himself come across as a saint. Notices he says he even offered to give them free material for their new mosque driveway. Notice also he tugs at our natural prejudical tendencies by saying things like "The gentlemen were very friendly, but spoke with a heavy Middle Eastern accent" and "these new people that they would be bringing in would be unfamiliar with many of the local customs, and/or ways of doing things, and that most would not be able to speak English at first"

In his mind his word should be beyond question and justifies his actions. In my mind he's using it as an excuse to be as hateful as he legally can towards a minority religious group.

This video is interesting too: http://www.youtube.com/v/CKA37HZ7fs0

One lady is against commercialization of the area but has no problem with Friday Night Pig Racing? LOL

[KT2000]

Hmmm... You didn't use to censor so much... Seemed like as long as the posters remained respectful of each other, you'd pretty much let the threads skew their natural course...

If someone can tell me what pig races and mosques have to do with the Katy Nation book then I'll take a step back. Yall started to tread dangerous ground in my opinion. If it continues on the current thread, we might as well move it off topic.

[Drake]

If someone can tell me what pig races and mosques have to do with the Katy Nation book then I'll take a step back. Yall started to tread dangerous ground in my opinion. If it continues on the current thread, we might as well move it off topic.No correlation that I can see other than KtCarl brought up pig races and mosques in Post #49, and he'll more than likely buy the book... :)

[rwilleby]

No correlation that I can see other than KtCarl brought up pig races and mosques in Post #49, and he'll more than likely buy the book... :)

Actully Amused brought it up in post 47... Let's not be selective in our reading or posting...

This topic still has nothing to do with Katy or the book or the movie... In fact the location is Barker, Texas... Which is probably more in the SJ attendance Zone than it is in the town of Katy, Texas...

Please start an new OT thread if you want to discuss something other than the thread title...

Back on topic... I understand Coach Brown, Coach Johnston, Coach Joseph and some of the "Older" Katy Tigers will be at the book signing on the 5th...

[Drake]

This topic still has nothing to do with Katy or the book or the movie... In fact the location is Barker, Texas... Which is probably more in the SJ attendance Zone than it is in the town of Katy, Texas...
Fair enough... I'll start a thread in Off Topic... Hope you'll continue to participate there... :)

[rwilleby]

Fair enough... I'll start a thread in Off Topic... Hope you'll continue to participate there... :)

Thanks, and I will...

[ktCarl]

No correlation that I can see other than KtCarl brought up pig races and mosques in Post #49, and he'll more than likely buy the book... :)

Oink, Oink!!