Euless Trinity Vs. Slc

[go_hawgs_04]

After keeping a good eye on both of these teams the past two weeks it would be a good chance to see these two in action at state...trinitys offense is just as good or better but defense is as equal to slc...what do you think?

[SLC13]

After keeping a good eye on both of these teams the past two weeks it would be a good chance to see these two in action at state...trinitys offense is just as good or better but defense is as equal to slc...what do you think?Hawg......you must not have read the other threads Re:Trinity.......It is not very likely that Trinity and SLC will face each other this year, Trinity will be in D1 and SLC most likely will be D2........

[drgnbkr]

Hawg......you must not have read the other threads Re:Trinity.......It is not very likely that Trinity and SLC will face each other this year, Trinity will be in D1 and SLC most likely will be D2........


It's a long way off, but I think this year has a more than zero chance the Dragons could go the Div. 1 route....

[toonman]

For SLC to go to D1, then any 2 of Denton Ryan, Grapevine or Richland would also have to make the play-offs and they would be in D2.

[bhs06]

If that were to happen they would meet in the first round, sending home a good team early. I still think Trinity's defense is not outstanding, and could be torched by Southlake's. It would be high scoring but Southlake would probably win.

[Arazorback]

After keeping a good eye on both of these teams the past two weeks it would be a good chance to see these two in action at state...trinitys offense is just as good or better but defense is as equal to slc...what do you think?

Woah...are you a razorback fan?

[pack0808]

Why was the thread closed on the katy wr's?? Either way this is what i try to post before it said it was locked.

edit this to iowa before pack0808 has a conniption.

Me having a conniption?? Never!! ;) I am offended you would think i would of such an outburst. LMAO Seriously, Chandler made some big catches in that bowl game for Iowa but he was hardly the main reason for the win. He contributed though. He is not a starter by the way and he only caught a handful of balls so far in his career. He comes in as a te in throwing situations because his blocking skills are not up to par on what the hawkeyes like. They have bigger kid in there when they want to run the ball. He was a wr in hs and he is not the most muscular guy so that is probably why he is having problems with blocking. He has a long way to go before he is a star on the Hawks but he is tough for lb's to cover as a te. I have been impressed with him so far but he does seem a little hesistant about going over the middle. He prefers the outs and the fade type patterns. You know if you are talking about the Iowa Hawks that i am going to know every single detail. LOL


Ok on with the slc/trinity thread!! ;)

[CoppellCowboy57]

For SLC to go to D1, then any 2 of Denton Ryan, Grapevine or Richland would also have to make the play-offs and they would be in D2.

I think Grapevine has a shot at making the play-offs this year, they look pretty good if you ask me...Denton Ryan could aslo see the play offs again this year...I have to admit I would LOVE to see SLC go DI and take on Euless Trinity

[dragonfootballfan]

I think Grapevine has a shot at making the play-offs this year, they look pretty good if you ask me...Denton Ryan could aslo see the play offs again this year...I have to admit I would LOVE to see SLC go DI and take on Euless Trinity
I think the real reason you want SLC to go D1 is so that you won't have to meet Carroll in the first round

[raidercheerdad]

On the other hand, I'd love for SLC to go D1 so we could have a chance to meet them! How else do you know if you are the best if you don't play the best! Just take a look at our preseason schedule. We ain't skeered! LOL

[pack0808]

Well i hate to say this but SLC beat a team that beat Tyler Lee by 11 last year in my Lufkin Panthers. :( Tyler Lee would still have given SLC hell even though i think SLC would have won. Tyler Lee is tough period and i do not care who they play. They will give you hell for 4 quarters and if you are lucky enough to beat them your heart as a fan will still be pounding at the end because it takes all 4 quarters to beat them. I personally think Longview would have a great shot against SLC last year but that is all pointless to think about. They were the undefeated champs and they deserved to be called the best.

[luckyfighter05]

It would be one of the greatest games in Texas football history. Both teams have similar styles(strong offense that just racks up the points with a solid, but not great defense). If both teams played at the level they've played at the past 2 weeks, I'd have to give it to Trinity. Last year's carroll team vs. this trinity team would prolly go to carroll. Seems like everybody is getting a little ahead of themselves though, Trinity has Tyler Lee in 2 weeks which will be their shot to realliy show how good they are this year.

[ALLIN]

Pointless talk, lets open this up again in week ten when we know how it will end up.

[pack0808]

Pointless talk, lets open this up again in week ten when we know how it will end up.


Very true!!

[gritty52]

Does anyone know how big the enrollments are at the 7-5A schools??? Who has the most? I heard FOSSILL RIDGE is the largest!!! Don't know! Can anyone out there tell us ? :)

[CCHS77]

Does anyone know how big the enrollments are at the 7-5A schools??? Who has the most? I heard FOSSILL RIDGE is the largest!!! Don't know! Can anyone out there tell us ? :)

This is the second year that Ridge has been in 5-5A

[toonman]

Keller - 2613
Haltom - 2567
Fossil Ridge - 2427
Colleyville - 2222
SLC - 2213
Grapevine - 2053
Richland - 2027
Denton Ryan - 1981

[dragons08]

Pointless talk, lets open this up again in week ten when we know how it will end up.
i like the way you think! its true we can sit here and go back and forth over whos better and whos not, and who would win and what not? but why bother untill we know for sure?

[fabdragnfan]

We'll go D1 and still win it all

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

We'll go D1 and still win it all

and we will win in D2 :D

[VB Pack Fan]

I agree with favdragfan, that SLC would win in D1, they are a well coached team. They kids are no better than a lot of other teams, but they are just very well coached.

[Eagles52]

We could see Abilene high win state this year if SLC and Abilene High are in seperate D's. If you look at them you can see that they havn't lost much sence last year. But personaly, I want another crack at SLC one more time.

Just my opinion.

[DragonNation]

Lufkin fans are praying for Grapevine, Richland, DR to have the season of their lives.

[Eagles52]

Lufkin fans are praying for Grapevine, Richland, DR to have the season of their lives.

Lol I can see why.

[AllenEagle06]

Yes it would be nice if we didn't have to face SLC in the playoffs for once. :D

[VB Pack Fan]

Dragonnation, don,t know what you meant by your comment, but Lufkin has never been afraid of playing anyone. We play one game at a time.

[dragons08]

Dragonnation, don,t know what you meant by your comment, but Lufkin has never been afraid of playing anyone. We play one game at a time.
as do we, hoping possibly that our paths will cross

[eagleike]

the dragons have a great program but this season there is gonna be a new champ. I feel it in my bones.

[dragons08]

the dragons have a great program but this season there is gonna be a new champ. I feel it in my bones.
new champ in the division the dragons AREN't in :p

[eagleike]

Last year I predicted the rise of Westfield and the ultimate defeat of the mighty Judson Rockets.

I will make my call in a couple of weeks. And you can write it down.

[CoppellCowboy57]

I really hope the SLC goes DI, i want to see them face Euless Trinity Early in the playoffs

[dragons08]

I really hope the SLC goes DI, i want to see them face Euless Trinity Early in the playoffs
waht if coppell has a game at the same time? then what do you do...

[CoppellCowboy57]

waht if coppell has a game at the same time? then what do you do...

SLC vs Euless Trinity def, I would sit on the Euless side though, sorry..

as ive said before I have alot of friends who go to Trinity

[dragons08]

SLC vs Euless Trinity def, I would sit on the Euless side though, sorry..

as ive said before I have alot of friends who go to Trinity
your gf is in the coppel band right? wouldnt she get po'd, you said at times youd rather play at SLC, and now you want to sit wiht trinity? what goes on in your head man?? :p

[CoppellCowboy57]

your gf is in the coppel band right? wouldnt she get po'd, you said at times youd rather play at SLC, and now you want to sit wiht trinity? what goes on in your head man?? :p

she would understand, ive always belived in bros before H**s (srry KT its an expression) except when im married or "in love". I would play for slc, I want a state champion ring...but...I still dont wanna side with them

[drgnbkr]

Last year I predicted the rise of Westfield and the ultimate defeat of the mighty Judson Rockets.

I will make my call in a couple of weeks. And you can write it down.

I, for one, am breathless with anticipation...... :D

[dragons08]

she would understand, ive always belived in bros before H**s (srry KT its an expression) except when im married or "in love". I would play for slc, I want a state champion ring...but...I still dont wanna side with them
go to the dragon game this weekend then

[CoppellCowboy57]

go to the dragon game this weekend then
urm no...I gotta see this one, its something todo with pride against duncanville, plus I actully promised my boo (yes i said boo you gotta problim with it ill be at the duncanville game ill be the guy wearing a pink poloshirt with a marine hat ;) ) i would be there

[dragons08]

urm no...I gotta see this one, its something todo with pride against duncanville, plus I actully promised my boo (yes i said boo you gotta problim with it ill be at the duncanville game ill be the guy wearing a pink poloshirt with a marine hat ;) ) i would be there
boo? as in gf i assume? well check out a game at Dragon Stadium this year, if your there tell me before hand and we can meet up or something

[CoppellCowboy57]

boo? as in gf i assume? well check out a game at Dragon Stadium this year, if your there tell me before hand and we can meet up or something

is your game home or away not this friday but next?

[dragons08]

is your game home or away not this friday but next?
i guess you can say home cause i'll be at my home..were off that week

[CoppellCowboy57]

i guess you can say home cause i'll be at my home..were off this week

dang so is Coppell

[dragonfootballfan]

Last year I predicted the rise of Westfield and the ultimate defeat of the mighty Judson Rockets.

I will make my call in a couple of weeks. And you can write it down.
last night I predicted the winning lottery numbers only I did not buy a ticket so I didn't win

[CoppellCowboy57]

last night I predicted the winning lottery numbers only I did not buy a ticket so I didn't win

yeah me too

[dragons08]

last night I predicted the winning lottery numbers only I did not buy a ticket so I didn't win
i can use that excuse cause im not 18 yet :D

[CoppellCowboy57]

i can use that excuse cause im not 18 yet :D

you know ive never bought a lottery ticket in my life...I just dont feel like waisting 3 bucks on one, plus I would lose it, and then win...

[NewSherriffInTown]

I Didn't read any of the thread, but This game could be 100-100 in OT. Neither team has the greatest defense in the world. They may be two of the best offenses in the state.


It's really scary to see the lack of defense in the state. I haven't been on Lufkin's bandwagon yet, but Lufkin is gonna win the state title. They are the only team that plays bonafide defense.

[drgnbkr]

I Didn't read any of the thread, but This game could be 100-100 in OT. Neither team has the greatest defense in the world. They may be two of the best offenses in the state.


It's really scary to see the lack of defense in the state. I haven't been on Lufkin's bandwagon yet, but Lufkin is gonna win the state title. They are the only team that plays bonafide defense.

Carroll's D can play with anybody in the State...I guess you have'nt been watching....You should take a look sometime

[gritty52]

Did anyone see the write-up in the sports page of the Ft. Worth Star Telegram this morning??? It's on the back page of the sports page. It talks about the possible matchup. :)

[dragonsdaddy]

the dragons have a great program but this season there is gonna be a new champ. I feel it in my bones.
that's called arthritis, when you get these feelings over and over. maybe you'd be better off predicting the weather. you said the same thing last year.

[SLCDad]

We could see Abilene high win state this year if SLC and Abilene High are in seperate D's. If you look at them you can see that they havn't lost much sence last year. But personaly, I want another crack at SLC one more time.
You are on a long list of teams that want "another crack at SLC."

SLC has had a target on it's back since the end of 2002.

[SLCDad]

I Didn't read any of the thread, but This game could be 100-100 in OT. Neither team has the greatest defense in the world. They may be two of the best offenses in the state.


It's really scary to see the lack of defense in the state. I haven't been on Lufkin's bandwagon yet, but Lufkin is gonna win the state title. They are the only team that plays bonafide defense.I'd suggest you ask Lufkin, Abilene, Denton Ryan or Smithson Valley about SLC's defense. SV's offense only had ONE sustained drive the entire game. Abilene had a powerfull offense but needed an on-side kick recovery to make the game close.

Since SLCs offense scores so fast the D is on the field a lot. SLC destroys most opponents and still has much lower time of possession. That means the D is on the field.

SLC's 2005 D may be the most improved part of the team from last year with the possible exception being the corp of wide receivers.

[pack0808]

Last year i was very impressed with SLC's defense but in 2002 it was suspect but was better then average.


Hey, I guess the only team SLC would want to have another crack at is Katy. Except maybe Ennis?? I bet SLC would enjoy beating Ennis by about 35 which i think they would do quite easily now. There is no comparison between those 2 these days. I also bet Katy would like to have another crack at Lufkin in the playoffs instead of the regular season. But yes, Lufkin would like another crack at SLC because LP knows how close they were both times they faced SLC. It is just human nature to want to have another shot. Especially when you were so close to tasting victory. It is probable it could happen again. Probably come down to the Lufkin/Longview game again.

[Redneckn]

Can you imagine how devastated the folks at SLC are going to be when they get beat?

[dragonsdaddy]

Can you imagine how devastated the folks at SLC are going to be when they get beat?
i seem to remember the "devastation" from the kt game. very sour taste and made for a long off-season. have done ok since. no lasting damage. thanks for being concerned.

[bhs06]

I'm guessing the Star Telegram Staff Writer lurks around these boards?

[DragonFan]

The longest lasting result of the loss to Katy is that people still point to the Katy game and say "See they can be beat!"

The Defense for SLC is very good and has shown an ablity to stop running teams. They have given up yards but not a lot of points until the game is really out of reach and the 2nd and 3rds are in. The SLC offense is a different beast. There have been at least 9 different kids score TD's this year in 2 games. You can never key on just one or two kids. That is what puts the most presure on any defense. When SLC scores it tends to put the opposing team in a panic mode knowing that they have to score everytime SLC does and they soon get out of their own game plan and then fall prey to the SLC defense that just needs 2 or 3 stops to allow the offense to win the game.

[ALLIN]

The scary thing, I do not think Renfro has even scored a touchdown this year.........uh-oh. I guess he is letting the rest of the team get warm

[dragonfly]

So far, it appears that Renfro and the quarterbacks are lacking a little timing. He has been underthrown a few times and overthrown a couple of times. As soon as they get their timing down, how in the world do you stop him AND Jacobson?!!? And then you have to stop the running threat of Dodge and the talent at the other wr positions.

[southlake thug]

It is not Ren and McKay that teams need to worry about now.. it is Corbin Smiter (#80). He just adds another dimension to this recieving corps with his strength and good hands.

[ALLIN]

Hehe, dont you love it. Sick, just plain sick. I think the new Qbs may not be used to the speed of Renfro yet. I think he sat out alot of two a days. He will be there soon and when he does, he will do it in Renfro fashion; 3 or 4 in a game!!

[SLCDad]

Hehe, dont you love it. Sick, just plain sick. I think the new Qbs may not be used to the speed of Renfro yet. I think he sat out alot of two a days. He will be there soon and when he does, he will do it in Renfro fashion; 3 or 4 in a game!!It appears to me that McElroy hasn't been able to throw long enough to catch up with Renfrow's speed. Renfrow has been open but the deep balls have consistently been underthrown. Maybe it's McElroy's injury and maybe it's just timing. When they get it together it will be fun to watch.

Since McKay usually runs the shorter routes or the routes over the middle he is getting tons of catches. Add Smiter (plus 5 other guys) to the mix and it's unstoppable.

One last point, since Dodge has 8 receivers to platoon they are ALL fresh during long offensive drives or in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Look for some tired DBs to be burned consistently at these times. That's one reason why the SLC offense explodes. It's no accident. The opposing defense is exhausted.

[dragonsdaddy]

you know, i never thought that fatigue , or lack thereof made a great difference in years past, but i can certainly see it now. as stated previously, what could be more mentally challenging than breaking up a long pass, and seeing clint renfro come trotting out to face you for the next race, er play? after a while it becomes physically challenging too.

[SLCDad]

Can you imagine how devastated the folks at SLC are going to be when they get beat?LOL You and many others are counting the days until that happens. Don't hold your breath. SLC won't lose in the regular season this year. They will reach 57-1 in 5A. One loss? 57-2? What's to be devastated about?

The SLC tradition of excellence in all sports and in the classroom has already been established. A loss won't change that. The Dragon Nation will continue to thrive.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Euless Trinity will lose to SLC. The experience in big games and the coaching will overshadow the physical play. I've seen plenty of teams with dominate athletes get beat, due to lack of coaching and experience.

SLC will most likely win state, again!!!

[southlake thug]

Damn straight. Our golf team will return to state and win it. SLC contends in every sport(excp B-Ball this year).

[drgnbkr]

Euless Trinity will lose to SLC. The experience in big games and the coaching will overshadow the physical play. I've seen plenty of teams with dominate athletes get beat, due to lack of coaching and experience.

SLC will most likely win state, again!!!

Since this thread is about guessing whether Carrol or Trinity would win should they meet, I'll add my 2 cents worth...I've seen Trinity play & Carroll has a better defense and a better offense than Trinity. That would earn you a win most of the time. Trinity is impressive though, they play the style of ball that can give the Dragons trouble, by being able to possess the football. I wish them luck on a good & healthy season.

[gritty52]

Guess we should just go ahead and get the trophy ready now for SLC don't need to play the games. Get the trophy ready according to yaw!! Will it be DIV 1 OR2?????????????????? dON'T NEED TO PLAY THE GAME!

[drgnbkr]

Guess we should just go ahead and get the trophy ready now for SLC don't need to play the games. Get the trophy ready according to yaw!! Will it be DIV 1 OR2?????????????????? dON'T NEED TO PLAY THE GAME!

I guess I explained why I thought Carroll would win, but if you just want to fold..great!

[implacable44]

amen - I think you might as well ship it up to SLC for the next 3 years actually because Riley will be there and I thinK I read some thread about Lebron James or OJ Mayo or something in the 8th grade at Carroll that runs a 4.1 40 bench presses 300 pounds is 6'2" and plays wide receiver / defensive end / QB / and serves as the assistant coach. so maybe we should say it is a lock for the next 5 years. .....or we could let people play -recognize that other teams are good and just might beat ours - even though we are bias it is okay to accept reality. Personally I think Trinity is pretty good - the only thing about them might be the coaching - I dont know if they have the execution and coaching that SLC does.

[SLCDad]

Damn straight. Our golf team will return to state and win it. SLC contends in every sport(excp B-Ball this year).I'm expecting a SLC girls cross country state championship. We took 2nd last year and our two top runners are back. In addition, the 2004 3A individual state champ moved to Southlake and will join the team this year.

[drgnbkr]

amen - I think you might as well ship it up to SLC for the next 3 years actually because Riley will be there and I thinK I read some thread about Lebron James or OJ Mayo or something in the 8th grade at Carroll that runs a 4.1 40 bench presses 300 pounds is 6'2" and plays wide receiver / defensive end / QB / and serves as the assistant coach. so maybe we should say it is a lock for the next 5 years. .....or we could let people play -recognize that other teams are good and just might beat ours - even though we are bias it is okay to accept reality. Personally I think Trinity is pretty good - the only thing about them might be the coaching - I dont know if they have the execution and coaching that SLC does.

I would put Coach Lineweaver at Trinity in the top ten in Texas.

[implacable44]

I Would take your word for it -- but who is in your top 10 ?

[drgnbkr]

I Would take your word for it -- but who is in your top 10 ?

In 5-A, I would start with Joey Florence, John Outlaw, Larry Hill, Todd Dodge, Steve Lineweaver

[implacable44]

mmhh - nobody from region IV - yeah your opinion means little to me

[SLCDad]

I would put Coach Lineweaver at Trinity in the top ten in Texas.Coach Lineweaver was offensive coordinator at SLC back in the 3A days when they ran the wishbone. In those days any attempt to throw a forward pass was terrifying (to the home side, not the opposing team).

[SLC13]

mmhh - nobody from region IV - yeah your opinion means little to meIsn't coach Hill from Reg IV??

[CCHS77]

Isn't coach Hill from Reg IV??


SLC13,

For heaven sake, don’t question im44’s football knowledge or reading comprehension! He doesn’t like it.

[drgnbkr]

SLC13,

For heaven sake, don’t question im44’s football knowledge or reading comprehension! He doesn’t like it.

Yeah, he gets fussy and throws things around like...words & stuff...

[dragons08]

yeah your opinion means little to me
whyd you ask then??

[drgnbkr]

mmhh - nobody from region IV - yeah your opinion means little to me

:eek: ...I may never post again.........nah...I'll be back... :rolleyes:

[sltnusmc]

Maybe this is the week that we finally see the Dragons lose a game !!!!!!!

[drgnbkr]

Maybe this is the week that we finally see the Dragons lose a game !!!!!!!

I'm back..I could'nt stand it...lose this week? To PESH?...In our Home Opener?...Maybe...Maybe not.... :cool:

[dragonsdaddy]

the power rankings give the orients a 3% chance. i like our odds.

[drgnbkr]

the power rankings give the orients a 3% chance. i like our odds.
When was our last home game? I know this is after at least 8 in a row away from the friendly confines of Ledbetter, I mean Dragon Stadium....

[dragonsdaddy]

it was game 9 vs gvine last year.

[Redneckn]

ET is gonna win. I can just feel it. Wait a second...That was gas..
But still, I want ET to win.

The big dog has got to go down.

[dragons08]

When was our last home game? I know this is after at least 8 in a row away from the friendly confines of Ledbetter, I mean Dragon Stadium....
it was 8, im glad to be back in good ol' dragon stadium, i was there, about a week ago for the band parent demo, and let me tell ya, she still looks beautiful

[dragons08]

ET is gonna win. I can just feel it. Wait a second...That was gas..
But still, I want ET to win.

The big dog has got to go down.
you guys are starting to make it sound that ET is the "big dog"

[drgnbkr]

ET is gonna win. I can just feel it. Wait a second...That was gas..
But still, I want ET to win.

The big dog has got to go down.

ET who? Do you mean Plano East?..East Texas? Or the extra terrestrial?

[Redneckn]

Euless Trinity=ET.

In this thread I kind of figured it was a given.

[Slim-Rob]

Trinity by -7

[drgnbkr]

Euless Trinity=ET.

In this thread I kind of figured it was a given.

sorry, I lost track of the thread...I hate it when that happens.... ;)

[CoppellCowboy57]

seems to happen alot around here.

I think who ever wins the ET SLC game it would be a blow out

[dragons08]

seems to happen alot around here.

I think who ever wins the ET SLC game it would be a blow out
hahahahahahahaha so true so true, that 2nd line...WTF? a blow out, you kidding me?

[implacable44]

well since coach hill will be back to 4a before too long he doesnt count. strange how no Judson coach got mentioned --

[SLCDad]

When was our last home game? I know this is after at least 8 in a row away from the friendly confines of Ledbetter, I mean Dragon Stadium....Seven of the next eight SLC games are either at Dragon Stadium or 1/2 mile away at Grapevine/Colleyville stadium. Not much travel this year. The only other game is in Denton and will be televised.

[DragonFan]

The one aspect of the SLC games that nobody has talked about is the length of the games. The no huddle offense does not allow the other team to get a rest before the next play happens. Plus with the large number of first downs that the Dragons get, the clock stops. The last two games that SLC has played both lasted close to 3 1/2 hours! Plus the SLC offense gets a lot more plays in a game because they get set and go! SLC may not win the time of possession stat but I bet you can check that they have a lot more offensive plays than their opponents. The shear number of plays and the wear and tear on the opposing defense trying to cover everybody on every play wears teams down. You might be better off suiting up your cross country team to play against the SLC offense! The tempo of the game is electrifiying or terrifiying depending on if you are watching the SLC offense or the opposing defense.

I do not believe that the conditioning of the Trinity team with its stable of huge kids would be able to hang with the Dragons during the 3rd and 4th quarters. That is not to say that the Trinity team is in bad shape, just not good enough shape to run 20 yard wind sprints for 3 1/2 hours.

[stinger]

Dragonfan....I guess you have not been to a Trinity game. They have no injuries, and during the last part of the game they are standing tall. They have physiaclly outlasted the other teams and are in great shape. They also have a very strong platoon system that has given all players plenty of experience. The first string has only had tp play maybe a total of one game out of two in time. Believe me...they ARE in great shape. Big players in shape wear down the little guys.