Can anyone say Rookie of the Year?

[BoomerSooner]

I have been the first person to wonder whether Vince Young could be an NFL style QB. I also said that while he has had a great season, he isn't rookie of the year yet. I argued that Marques Colston was having the better season, which he WAS. But Colston has sat out 3 games with injury, during which time Vince Young led 3 comeback wins against NY, Indianapolis, and Houston. He drove down the field today in overtime, and on 3rd and 14 ran for a 39 yard touchdown. I'd say he's locked it up. Congratulations to him anyway whether he wins it or not.


P.S. Did anyone notice that the entire stadium was cheering for him even though he'd just beat the home town team?

[BeauxGeezy]

These guys (http://forums.houstontexans.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11) weren't really happy with the outcome. haha!!

[BoomerSooner]

These guys (http://forums.houstontexans.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11) weren't really happy with the outcome. haha!!

How many tackles did Mario Williams have today?
I thought Reggie Bush was very good entering the draft. And he has had a pretty good rookie season. I'm pretty sure he is over 1000 yards net. The day of the draft I told my friends we'd look back on this draft like the Trailblazers looked back at Michael Jordan. Bye bye reggie, bye bye vince, bye bye leinart....

[jakerz]

I loved that that were tons of people wearing burnt orange at the game

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

How many tackles did Mario Williams have today?
I thought Reggie Bush was very good entering the draft. And he has had a pretty good rookie season. I'm pretty sure he is over 1000 yards net. The day of the draft I told my friends we'd look back on this draft like the Trailblazers looked back at Michael Jordan. Bye bye reggie, bye bye vince, bye bye leinart....

Don't forget about the Lakers passing on MJ to take that "Pretty boy" Sam Bowie. A stat I'd like to throw in is that Reggie leads the Saints in receptions.

[dragonfootballfan]

Don't forget about the Lakers passing on MJ to take that "Pretty boy" Sam Bowie. A stat I'd like to throw in is that Reggie leads the Saints in receptions.

which also happens to be second in the entire league. The guy is an awesome receiver.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

which also happens to be second in the entire league. The guy is an awesome receiver.

Yes sir he is! With his speed, he'd be deadly lining up at flanker or split end.

[backthepack]

Rookie of the Year

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Rookie of the Year

Reggie or Vince?

[backthepack]

Reggie or Vince?

Vince by a longshot.

That's coming from an Aggie fan.

[Crank_It]

VY and reggie on the same team (think about it). thatd be a mighty high-octane offense if ya ask me.

I'm picking VY on this one simply because the supporting cast around him isnt very stellar as far as performance. The only receiver i can think of off the top of my head is Bennet and Lendale hasnt really done much for worthy of mention. Travis henry has been pretty decent tho.

Oh, and Merill Hoge can eat one as far as I'm concerned, anyone know why there is so much hatred coming from someone who played for IDAHO STATE? go harvest some potatoes you whiny has-been.

[BoomerSooner]

Don't forget about the Lakers passing on MJ to take that "Pretty boy" Sam Bowie. A stat I'd like to throw in is that Reggie leads the Saints in receptions.

That's what I was refering to. It was the portland trailblazers who passed on him not the lakers. They didn't want a guard cause they'd already drafted Clyde Drexler and wanted a big man. Rockets passed on him too but at least they got Hakeem Olajuwan.

I didn't know Bush led them in receptions. I knew that Marques Colston was blowing every rookie out of the water for a while but he got hurt. And VY started winning every game.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

That's what I was refering to. It was the portland trailblazers who passed on him not the lakers. They didn't want a guard cause they'd already drafted Clyde Drexler and wanted a big man. Rockets passed on him too but at least they got Hakeem Olajuwan.

I didn't know Bush led them in receptions. I knew that Marques Colston was blowing every rookie out of the water for a while but he got hurt. And VY started winning every game.

Colston has more recieving yards, but Bush has more receptions.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

VY and reggie on the same team (think about it). thatd be a mighty high-octane offense if ya ask me.

I'm picking VY on this one simply because the supporting cast around him isnt very stellar as far as performance. The only receiver i can think of off the top of my head is Bennet and Lendale hasnt really done much for worthy of mention. Travis henry has been pretty decent tho.

Oh, and Merill Hoge can eat one as far as I'm concerned, anyone know why there is so much hatred coming from someone who played for IDAHO STATE? go harvest some potatoes you whiny has-been.

Bro, Vince and Reggie on the same team is cheating. I can understand why you'd pick Vince because Reggie is on a pretty good team and Vince's team is not quite on the level of the Saints. Merrill Hodge is hatin' because he played for the Steelers. You gotta remember, the Titans used to be the Oilers, and the Oilers were a big division rival of the Steelers. Not only that, but other people are biased of everything from Texas anyway.

[Firebird]

Colston deserves rookie of the year.

[BoomerSooner]

Colston deserves rookie of the year.

That's what I've been saying for a while now, except Vince is starting to make a really strong case. He hasn't been spectacular as far as numbers but he's been a leader and clutch when it counts.

[78 Spartan]

The rookie of the year is DeMeco Ryans. Hands down.

[BoomerSooner]

The rookie of the year is DeMeco Ryans. Hands down.

Hands down? Vince Young just led his team to 3 come from behind victories. Colston was the leading receiver in the league for 4 or 5 weeks. Reggie Bush has over 1000 total net yards and 7 TD's. There are several guys worthy of consideration, Ryans is certainly up there though.

[Crank_It]

Bro, Vince and Reggie on the same team is cheating. I can understand why you'd pick Vince because Reggie is on a pretty good team and Vince's team is not quite on the level of the Saints. Merrill Hodge is hatin' because he played for the Steelers. You gotta remember, the Titans used to be the Oilers, and the Oilers were a big division rival of the Steelers. Not only that, but other people are biased of everything from Texas anyway.

Dude, if ya aint cheatin, ya aint tryin! that offense would be sick, absolutley sick.And yes, other people have ***** envy over texas, its a natural occurance among the outsiders looking in.

[78 Spartan]

Hands down? Vince Young just led his team to 3 come from behind victories. Colston was the leading receiver in the league for 4 or 5 weeks. Reggie Bush has over 1000 total net yards and 7 TD's. There are several guys worthy of consideration, Ryans is certainly up there though.

Rookie of the Year is not the Heisman. You don't have to be a QB, RB or WR to win it.

The reason Ryans should win it is because he's been the key guy, each and every game, and I think he's leading the league in tackles by a wide margin. He is probably going to the Pro Bowl, and he's having an All-Pro type season. Of the three candidates that you are mentioning, only Colston is a candidate for All-Pro and I think his late season injury may prevent him from achieving that.

Obviously, Bush and Young are going to be the marquee players in this league, but those in the know would say that Ryans is the guy having the best year --- game in and game out.

By the way, I saw him play at Alabama so I'm not surprised at what a stud he's turned out to be. Not just athletically, but leadership-wise, also. The kid graduated in three and a half years, with honors, was an academic All-American, and he is articulate. You'd hear more about him except that, as a rookie, he knows it's his place to steer away from the cameras and the microphones. Ryans provides the necessary team leadership on the defensive side of the ball that David Carr has failed to provide on O. He's as good a second round draft pick as Mario Williams was a bad first round pick.

[Firebird]

Rookie of the Year is not the Heisman. You don't have to be a QB, RB or WR to win it.

The reason Ryans should win it is because he's been the key guy, each and every game, and I think he's leading the league in tackles by a wide margin. He is probably going to the Pro Bowl, and he's having an All-Pro type season. Of the three candidates that you are mentioning, only Colston is a candidate for All-Pro and I think his late season injury may prevent him from achieving that.

Obviously, Bush and Young are going to be the marquee players in this league, but those in the know would say that Ryans is the guy having the best year --- game in and game out.

Colston-- Offensive MVP
Ryans-- Defensive MVP

I see no conflict.

[78 Spartan]

Link to NFL statistics on tackles (http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/TAC/2006/regular).

I didn't know there were two ROTY awards. If so, then I agree: Ryans and Colston.

[HUM398]

VY and reggie on the same team (think about it). thatd be a mighty high-octane offense if ya ask me.

I'm picking VY on this one simply because the supporting cast around him isnt very stellar as far as performance. The only receiver i can think of off the top of my head is Bennet and Lendale hasnt really done much for worthy of mention. Travis henry has been pretty decent tho.

Oh, and Merill Hoge can eat one as far as I'm concerned, anyone know why there is so much hatred coming from someone who played for IDAHO STATE? go harvest some potatoes you whiny has-been.


The titans have a good cast of WR's...Thier just all hurt. hahaha.

David Givens is a solid WR that has a great pair of soft hands, he also runs excellent routes and can really seperate him self from defenders...He is out with a ACL injury. All the Titans have to do is draft Ted Ginn (if he is still around) or a LIMAS SWEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(if he comes out, or is he a senior??..i dont even know anymore...it feels like limas is been thier a long time, along with selvin)

[Firebird]

Link to NFL statistics on tackles (http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/TAC/2006/regular).

I didn't know there were two ROTY awards. If so, then I agree: Ryans and Colston.

There are two ROTY, a def. and off. each year. Colston and Ryans are my picks as well.

[BoomerSooner]

Rookie of the Year is not the Heisman. You don't have to be a QB, RB or WR to win it.

The reason Ryans should win it is because he's been the key guy, each and every game, and I think he's leading the league in tackles by a wide margin. He is probably going to the Pro Bowl, and he's having an All-Pro type season. Of the three candidates that you are mentioning, only Colston is a candidate for All-Pro and I think his late season injury may prevent him from achieving that.

Obviously, Bush and Young are going to be the marquee players in this league, but those in the know would say that Ryans is the guy having the best year --- game in and game out.

By the way, I saw him play at Alabama so I'm not surprised at what a stud he's turned out to be. Not just athletically, but leadership-wise, also. The kid graduated in three and a half years, with honors, was an academic All-American, and he is articulate. You'd hear more about him except that, as a rookie, he knows it's his place to steer away from the cameras and the microphones. Ryans provides the necessary team leadership on the defensive side of the ball that David Carr has failed to provide on O. He's as good a second round draft pick as Mario Williams was a bad first round pick.

Yes I agree it's not the heisman, and since there are two awards there is no conflict. However, in my opinion, it is easier to adapt at a defensive position from college to the NFL. Quarterback could very well be the hardest position to transfer in from. Some of the best quarterbacks had dismal rookie seasons (Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, etc). To do what VY has done is tremendous. Ryans is obviously the runaway defensive MVP.

[Texasfrog]

Vince Young - NFL Rookie of the Year ??

Drew Brees - NFL MVP ??

Not bad for two Texas boys playing QB in the NFL.

First it was the State of Texas doesnt produce quality NFL caliber QB's to all the sudden having possibly the NFL ROY and NFL MVP being both Texas boys that play NFL QB.

[HUM398]

Vince Young - NFL Rookie of the Year ??

Drew Brees - NFL MVP ??

Not bad for two Texas boys playing QB in the NFL.

First it was the State of Texas doesnt produce quality NFL caliber QB's to all the sudden having possibly the NFL ROY and NFL MVP being both Texas boys that play NFL QB.

If only the NFL really Chose a MVP. its more of a MOST POPULAR PLAYER

[BoomerSooner]

If only the NFL really Chose a MVP. its more of a MOST POPULAR PLAYER

Ya. I think LT is far and away the MVP this year though. He has more touchdowns than some teams have.

[yankee]

The titans have a good cast of WR's...Thier just all hurt. hahaha.

David Givens is a solid WR that has a great pair of soft hands, he also runs excellent routes and can really seperate him self from defenders...He is out with a ACL injury. All the Titans have to do is draft Ted Ginn (if he is still around) or a LIMAS SWEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(if he comes out, or is he a senior??..i dont even know anymore...it feels like limas is been thier a long time, along with selvin)
there are much better receivers coming out of this year's draft then both sweed and ginn..

[slorch]

Nick Mangold.
Center is complex too, with the calls for the entire OL.
Has had a great year for a below par team.

[FarmerFootballPlayer]

there are much better receivers coming out of this year's draft then both sweed and ginn..

But Jarrett, Johnson, ect. will be higher than the Titans will be choosing.

[yankee]

But Jarrett, Johnson, ect. will be higher than the Titans will be choosing.
joel filani, jarret hicks, steve smith, dallas baker..that's 6 top notch guys right there. you could also throw in samardzija, mcknight, anthony gonzales, and steve breaston for crying out loud. this year's draft class is absolutely loaded with wr's...ginn looked really good after his soph. year, and this one was sorta a down one for him due to gonzales getting alot of attention. we'll see though. there's no doubt that ginn is one helluva player.

[WestPlano006]

I think Jarret is a top 10 pick easily, he is a man among boys on that field..

Next year, look for Malcolm Kelly at OU to be one of the best recievers in the nation. If any of you watched him in the Big 12 championship game, he has a lot of talent and potential, only a sophmore.

[m4n 1n cyf4lls]

No, I might be the only Texan who says Vince Young wil not suceed.

Oh sure he made a game winning 39 yard run but guess who he did it against... the TEXANS DEFENSE which is horrid.

He doesnt have a dominant passing ability, like that of Drew Bree or etc...

Only dominance I see in him is his ability to run out of trouble.

But still, he is not the Rookie of Year, Rookie of year should belong to either DeMeco Ryans, Colston, or Bush.

DeMEco brings leadership to the Texans defense, and soon he will be an anchor.

[m4n 1n cyf4lls]

Link to NFL statistics on tackles (http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/TAC/2006/regular).

I didn't know there were two ROTY awards. If so, then I agree: Ryans and Colston.

There is.. one f or d e fense and one for offense.

Id give offense to colston for being top yardage rec, and Ryans for leadership and team leading tackles... even almost NFL league leadeing tackler.

[BeauxGeezy]

No, I might be the only Texan who says Vince Young wil not suceed.

Oh sure he made a game winning 39 yard run but guess who he did it against... the TEXANS DEFENSE which is horrid.

He doesnt have a dominant passing ability, like that of Drew Bree or etc...

Only dominance I see in him is his ability to run out of trouble.

Do some research bro.

[Sacred Ground]

No, I might be the only Texan who says Vince Young wil not suceed.

Oh sure he made a game winning 39 yard run but guess who he did it against... the TEXANS DEFENSE which is horrid.

He doesnt have a dominant passing ability, like that of Drew Bree or etc...

Only dominance I see in him is his ability to run out of trouble.

But still, he is not the Rookie of Year, Rookie of year should belong to either DeMeco Ryans, Colston, or Bush.

DeMEco brings leadership to the Texans defense, and soon he will be an anchor.

Vince helped bring the Titans back against 1) Little Manning and the Giants 2) Big Manning and the Colts and 3) #1 pick Mario and the Texans. In bowling they call it a TURKEY. In football they call it a VINCE.

[Sicemhorns09]

We might want to put Mr Hester from Da Bears into that mix...he is having one heck of a season!!!

[m4n 1n cyf4lls]

New York and Indiana...

both HORRID DEFENSE.

I dont want to hear that Indy has good D... and same with NYG

[Texasfrog]

No, I might be the only Texan who says Vince Young wil not suceed.

Oh sure he made a game winning 39 yard run but guess who he did it against... the TEXANS DEFENSE which is horrid.

He doesnt have a dominant passing ability, like that of Drew Bree or etc...

Only dominance I see in him is his ability to run out of trouble.

But still, he is not the Rookie of Year, Rookie of year should belong to either DeMeco Ryans, Colston, or Bush.

DeMEco brings leadership to the Texans defense, and soon he will be an anchor.

well, he is a QB that had lead Tennessee to more victories than losses and he is doing pretty well to boot.

He touches the football on every offensive play and has to make decisions with the football in his hands.

That right there puts him in the running for "ROY."

If he leads them (Titans) to a winning record and better yet. The playoff picture. He should be a shoe-in for the "ROY."

[backthepack]

well, he is a QB that had lead Tennessee to more victories than losses and he is doing pretty well to boot.

He touches the football on every offensive play and has to make decisions with the football in his hands.

That right there puts him in the running for "ROY."

If he leads them (Titans) to a winning record and better yet. The playoff picture. He should be a shoe-in for the "ROY."

I totally agree. The guy is a playmaker whether he throws the ball or runs it. In the end, he makes every decision when it comes to the offense and so far he has been a pretty good decision maker. IF the Titans and VY keep playing like they are now, then I definitly see VY getting the ROY.