What can Westlake expect from SA Reagan's defense???

[chapadelic]

So, I have a question to you San Antonio fans who follow SA football more closely than I.

If Westlake yielded 277 rushing yards to Churchill in the first round and 279 rushing yards to Jay in the second round, then how much will Westlake give up to Reagan??? (Sorry, Los Fresnos, but we had you down 31-0 and the last time we played a Valley team (Harlingen) it was 35-0 at halftime, so the Border teams just dont count, sorry. not being mean, just telling it like it is)

Is Reagan considered to have a better rushing attack than Churchill or Jay???

On the flipside, is Reagan Defense considered to be better than Churchill or Jay??? What can we expect??????

B/c this Westlake offense can really hammer people. RB Bron Hager has been a late season revelation for the Chaps and has been taking carries away from the other RBs. Foles has thrown 29 TDs with only 5 INTs. This is one of the better Westlake offenses since Chad Schroeder's 2001 team beat Vince Young's team in the semi-finals before falling to Cedric Benson's Midland Lee squad in the Finals.

We have a fast yet bruising FB, a small, fast pass catching RB, a Div I TE, good receivers, and a Div I QB. We don't really depend on one player. We can keep the scoreboard operator busy but our Defense is really poor.
Should be a fun one.

p.s. if you want to pull stats on Westake, the Austin paper has all of their boxscores online at: http://www.statesman.com/sports/cont.../Westlake.html

Scroll down to "Schedule and Record" for boxscores.
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[Fleeman93]

It looks like nothing at all.

[DiamondJ2]

As I've stated before, Reagan defense will come up with the stops when neccessary. Don't take them too lightly. Yes, secondary is suspect, but with 2nd half adjustment Rattlers have done well since next to last district game. This game is up for grabs. Turnovers and second half adjustments by both teams will be the difference.

[picperp]

I believe Westlake will do anything it wants on off., and that means controlling the clock. If the Chaps stop Wright and Reagan 2 or 3 times, they win. Just like Brew and the Jay game. 212 yards by Brew translated into just 21 points.

And Westlake lost to Reggie McNeil and Lufkin in 01. Benson was 2000.

[SVite]

Dont forget this weak Reagan defense beat seguin!;)

[picperp]

Seguin scored, what, 27? What does Reagan do defensively? Bend-but-don't-break type or blitzing type? Westlake has been causing lotsa TOs recently, and that's masking some serious flaws.

[bullrock]

I doubt Reagan will hand the ball off this weak. I believe they only scored 8 TD's last week via the ground game. Let's think a minute. That was by one running back!! My guess is they'll come with a spread and toss the pill all night. If that don't work, their defense will probably try to wear your offense out because they can score from anywhere on the field in one or two plays. If I were the Chaps, I'd be having my scout team run the SLC offense this week. ;)
I would suggest you read the play-by-play on this board.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Reagan's defense is better then Churchill or Jay. That being said, Westlake will be able to attack Reagan's secondary but don't think that Reagan won't come up with big defensive plays. They have for the last 6 weeks and that won't stop this week. These teams are almost mirror images of them selft when it comes to strengths. Both score points but they do it in different ways. Westlake will attack through the air but can beat on the ground as well. Reagan will beat you on the ground but can go through the air if needed. The Wells kid as really made a difference in this offense. He runs the zone read play very well. Not as good as Greg Jones did last year but pretty close. I also think Wells can pass better then Jones and this is an area that Westlake will get hurt if they decide to stack the line for Wright.
One thing that Reagan is also doing is gambling on onside kicks, fake punts and caget plays and they don't care where they are on the field or what time it is on the game clock. That is why it's working so well.
I've heard a lot of posters thinking that Westlake is going to win this game easyly but I don't see it. Churchill went down to the wire and Jay took Westlake to late in the 4th quarter. Reagan is better then both these teams and playing with unbelivable confidence right now.
Some Reagan posters think they are going to run away with this game too......Not going to happen. Westlakes offense is better then Seguin and I don't see anyway this game is a blow out. Final score could be a 10 point game but going into the 4th quarter this will be a even ball game. Good luck to both teams.

[realREAGANrattler]

I doubt Reagan will hand the ball off this weak. I believe they only scored 8 TD's last week via the ground game. Let's think a minute. That was by one running back!! My guess is they'll come with a spread and toss the pill all night. If that don't work, their defense will probably try to wear your offense out because they can score from anywhere on the field in one or two plays. If I were the Chaps, I'd be having my scout team run the SLC offense this week. ;)
I would suggest you read the play-by-play on this board.
they scored 10. 2 by walls :)

[realREAGANrattler]

reagan definatly doesnt have a bad defense. great d line and good linebackers. secondary didnt play well in the OC game and in the first half of the united game but they will be ready to play saturday. this game should be good

[shooter]

If you watched Reagan in the first of the season they could not tackle, the second half of the season they made the plays they needed to.

I think what hurts Reagan more than anything is speed. They don't have enough team speed to stop the top flight high speed offences. Breaking down game by game looking at defense only

O'Connor - (PA-27) I watched this one from the stands and thought for a defense that was returning 8 starters they looked awful. They were arm tackling the OC and OC was just to big.

Georgetown - (PA - 9) I did not see this one but I know weather was a factor that weekend and G-Town ended up a .500 ball club.

Churchill - (PA - 27) I did not see this one either but from some that did the story was more how pitiful the Offence looked. The defense did a decent job against Fanuzzi (7-16-98yards 2int) but they got eaten up by the run giving up almost 300 yards on the ground. The first two games Reagan had only given up passing TDs in this game they flipped that stat and gave up 4 rushing TDs

MacArhtur - (PA - 35) This was not a case where Reagan could not stop Mac they just could not stop Jonathon Craig (24-222yards). This was a strange game as it started on Saturday and was postponed due to weather till Monday. I saw the Saturday part and saw Craig just eat up Reagan’s defense. Craig has a lot of speed and this was probably the first true speedster Reagan had seen. Mac did not try and throw the ball because they did not have to and the weather.

Roosevelt - (PA - 13) Roosevelt another 500 team did not have much offence this year so it's not much of a test for Reagan. But it was key that Reagan got their first District win against The Roos. The Riders did go 11-18 in passing.

Madison - (PA - 48) even though this was a loss this was the game where Reagan turned the corner. I was on the sideline for this one and Madison dropped 532 yards on Reagan with out completing a pass. The Mavs only attempted 4 passes as Devin Thomas literally destroyed Reagan himself (see Mac). But most of it was in the first half and Madison left the game felling like they lost while Reagan felt good about the loss because of their second half effort. Again Speed killed them on the ground. This was also the last time Reagan lost a game.

Wagner - (PA - 6) first year school that was young and only won one game. No test.

SA Lee - (PA - 30) Not a surprise that Lee dropped 30 on Reagan and lost as they had Travis Lewis (speed back see Madison and Mac) and he had posted number on other teams as well in losing efforts. lee also has a nice QB as well that can run like the wind

Smithson Valley - (PA - 10) This was the wake up call around here. Everyone had written off Reagan for the year till this game. Smithson Valley was not an offensive juggernaut but could hold their own. Hill (QB) is no Foles and yes I have seen both play but Hill is a winner and Reagan shut him down. The one thing SV did not have was speed and I think this is what did in the Rangers in this game. I also think this is what did them in against SM as well.

Judson - (PA - 7) I saw this one from the sidelines. This game had a lot of sub-plots. As it was for the last playoff spot in the 265. Judson beat Reagan by +21 the year before to knock Reagan out of the playoffs and get in. Judson was hurting in this game as several players were dinged up. Also Judson did not possess the usual speed back in the back field. Mendoza and Mallett are good backs but not as fast as Judson's past backfields. Judson did have some size upfront and Reagan handled the power and size of Judson nicely.

Seguin - (PA - 27) I was on the sidelines for this one as well and Seguin got flat out coached in this game. Reagan did not stop Seguin, until they had to in the last quarter. Momentum played a huge roll in this game. I thought Reagan did a nice job against the passing attack and speed in the back field. The one thing they did do very well was pressure the QB. Seguin’s QB runs about as fast as Westlake’s signal caller so that part of the game is a good comparison, but I feel Westlake has a better pass blocking line. Did Seguin get their yards? Yes but Reagan made the adjustments and made enough plays to win. They did not dominate but stepped up in the 4th quarter.

O'Connor - (PA - 47) The one thing you have to remember about this game is it went 4OT so the 47 is a bit inflated. I was not at this one but from what I can remember O'C was not over 14 points at the start of the 4th quarter. So Reagan had made huge strides from their first contest with OC. This one came down to who wanted it more and in the end Reagan just outlasted O'C as they traded punches. Neither team stoped each other in OT the difference was the 2-point conversion.

United - (PA - 48) What everyone will remember about this game is the 72 Reagan posted and how United looked like swiss-cheese on defense. Reagan’s defense again got burned by speed but this time in the air, but only for one half. The second half either United laid down, or Reagan figured out a way to stop the longhorns. Again I was not at the game but to say Reagan's defense had a good game would be lying. To say Reagan’s defense had a decent half would be a true statement

So here we are with Westlake. I have seen both teams play and the one thing Westlake does not bring to the table is breakaway speed. I'm sure someone will tell me how some running back runs a 4.2 - 40 or something. But remember I have seen them close up. What Westlake does is they don't make mistakes (see SV) and they are big upfront (see Judson). I think this plays into Reagan’s hand a bit, as they seem to be able to handle Big Slow (in comparison) power teams that are more about picking up 5-12 yards a snap. It's the teams like Mac and Madison and United that try to score every play that gives Reagan fits. If this one comes down to mistakes I give the edge to Westlake. but if it comes down to pure Hart and emotion I give it to Reagan. My prediction on another thread was Reagan by 3 and I still feel good about that. Westlake will score points and won’t make the amount of coaching mistakes Seguin made, but I just think Reagan is on a roll and they are going to be very hard to stop with the Momentum they have. You will get a full helping of Marcus Wright a little of Walls mixed in and a trick play here and there. I don’t see either team running up 40plus but look more for a 24-21 contest as each team will get their stops.

Should be a good game.

[realREAGANrattler]

nice post
as you can see the D starts slow but picks it up when it matters
and the 30 by lee and 48 by united is a little higher than it should be because the starters were out by the end
...they will definatly have to stay in until the end against WL

[Reaganrattler07]

Reagan's defense is better then Churchill or Jay. That being said, Westlake will be able to attack Reagan's secondary but don't think that Reagan won't come up with big defensive plays. They have for the last 6 weeks and that won't stop this week. These teams are almost mirror images of them selft when it comes to strengths. Both score points but they do it in different ways. Westlake will attack through the air but can beat on the ground as well. Reagan will beat you on the ground but can go through the air if needed. The Wells kid as really made a difference in this offense. He runs the zone read play very well. Not as good as Greg Jones did last year but pretty close. I also think Wells can pass better then Jones and this is an area that Westlake will get hurt if they decide to stack the line for Wright.
One thing that Reagan is also doing is gambling on onside kicks, fake punts and caget plays and they don't care where they are on the field or what time it is on the game clock. That is why it's working so well.
I've heard a lot of posters thinking that Westlake is going to win this game easyly but I don't see it. Churchill went down to the wire and Jay took Westlake to late in the 4th quarter. Reagan is better then both these teams and playing with unbelivable confidence right now.
Some Reagan posters think they are going to run away with this game too......Not going to happen. Westlakes offense is better then Seguin and I don't see anyway this game is a blow out. Final score could be a 10 point game but going into the 4th quarter this will be a even ball game. Good luck to both teams.

I agree with ya, GG.

We've played with quite a pair. Don't remember us going for a fake punt, though....

But I'll tell you now, there are not many at Reagan who believe this will be won in a blowout.

[Reaganrattler07]

nice post
as you can see the D starts slow but picks it up when it matters
and the 30 by lee and 48 by united is a little higher than it should be because the starters were out by the end
...they will definatly have to stay in until the end against WL

Yeah, some meaningless points were given up.

The defense, I believe and have told a few players this, is going to have to play their best game ever.

[Prideplayer]

Reagan's defense is better then Churchill or Jay.

I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe... Laredo United put up, what, 33 first half points? I know they are probably pretty good at offense, but Los Fresnos was supposed to be the best offense in the Valley and their QB had I believe the 3rd most yards out of any Valley QB ever so they were no slouch. This "poor" Westlake defense held them to 0 points at half. Westlake's defense is the epitome of the bend but don't break defense. However, the games where they seemed to play decent, they got the wind knocked out of their sails by big plays (namely, Seguin). Anyways, here's a look at the points scored by week against Westlake

Week 1 - Abilene (8-5) PA - 9 This was a very good team who got off to a slow start but finished strong and lost a nail biter in the 2nd round. Westlake's defense completely shut them down and came up big with an INT for a touchdown.

Week 2 - Lake Travis(4a) (8-3) PA - 14 This is a pass happy Texas Tech look a like offense that is very effective. Though they are 4a, both of their regular season losses came against very good 5a teams (Westlake and Westwood) and they lost a tough one to Hays in the first round, who is still in the playoffs. This time the defense bent a lot, but didn't break, especially in the clutch when the game was still up for grabs.

Week 3 - A&M Consolidated (8-2) PA - 7 Though this game was cut short, having only 2 drives by A&M and 1 by Westlake, the defense did a pretty good job at shutting them down. It took them a long time to score on the first drive and I believe they went 3 and out their next drive.

Week 4 - Austin High (7-4) PA - 31 This was one of Westlake's two losses and was probably our worst defensive performance of the year. The defense never really stopped their HUGE running back who gutted us for at least 150 yards and Austin High just ate up the clock. They scored a long touchdown pass with about 15 seconds left to seal the victory though, so the defense kept us in the game until the end.

Week 5 - Bastrop (3-7) PA - 9 This was a pretty bad team overall, though they had a tough running game. In one game their running back ran for over 300 yard I believe, so they were no slouch running the ball. Another perfect example of bend, not break defense, Bastrop gained close to 300 yards on the ground, but failed to put up many points.

Week 6 - Anderson (2-8) PA - 14 Anderson was an absolutely terrible team who scored two late touchdowns on our 3rd string to break the shutout. The score at half was 55-0. Nuff said.

Week 7 - Bowie (4-6) PA - 21 Bowie was not a great team, but they had their moments. It was close in the first quarter, but Westlake ran away with it soon after. 7 of those 21 came on a kickoff return for a touchdown against our 2nd kickoff team

Week 8 - Seguin (9-2) PA - 35 Seguin was a very good football team. Don't let anyone tell you any different. Coming into this game I believe their offense was statistically the best in the state, but thats just going off of word of mouth. This was a big play game. Westlake pretty much dominated on both sides of the ball in the first half, with Seguin only scoring one TD on offense and another coming on the extremely hit or miss kickoff team. But, in the 2nd half the offense had a turnover and then a punt and Seguin scored on several long passes to their GIANT recievers for long gains and then played clock control with about 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Great first half effort, piss poor 2nd half.

Week 9 - Akins (2-8) PA - 14 Piss poor team who scored on their opening drive and was then shut down till 3rd string came in. Nothing much to say about this one. Another 74-12 win.

Week 10 - San Marcos (8-5) PA - 0(kinda) This was the only game all season that the Westlake offense faltered but the defense stepped up in a big way, shutting down the offense that the next week would put up 35 on SV. The only points they scored were by a fumble recovery for a touchdown.

Week 11 - Churchill (8-3) PA - 40 I lied, this was the worst defensive effort all year. I think our defense got one int and forced one punt all game, but the offense took this one on their backs and ran with it, beating a very good (and I think underrated) Churchill team in shootout fashion. This game proved what a ball control offense can do for you, with Westlake not even attempting a pass in the 2nd half, which means a lot considering we have a D1 QB back there bombing the ball.

Week 12 - SA Jay (9-3) PA - 21 The defense held a very good Brew (widely considered the best in the region) to 21 points. They may have given up a lot of yards but not many points. Bend, don't break. Once again the offense came up big, only not scoring twice the whole game. Anyone who was at the game knew who was in control of this game. Jay never really came close.

Week 13 - Los Fresnos (12-1) PA - 19 According to many RGV junkies, this was one of the best Valley offenses EVER. And Westlake shut them down cold. giving up only 13 points with our 1st D in. They could pass, they could run, but they couldn't do either on Saturday.


So, basically I think Westlake's defense has had to shoulder a ton of the blame for this season but I think they are very under rated. I expect a good performance from them on Saturday and I expect them to come up with a few crucial turnovers which will give the offense enough of a margin to win the game. From what I've seen, if Westlake gets up by 9 or more, they won't lose.

[shooter]

From what I've seen, if Westlake gets up by 9 or more, they won't lose.

Go back 3 weeks Insert the word Seguin and Reagan has already had this discussion. From watching Reagan (Madison, Seguin Games) don't count the Ratts out even if they are down 21 with 5 min to play they seem to find away.

I also think you will change your mind about who the best back in San Antonio is after this weekend.

Thanks for the info, it's nice to have a post where everyone is not talking about how they will destroy the other team and be playing their Jr high-string by the 2nd quarter, and how the opposing Coach will be begging for mercy at Half at the center of the field.

[Mac Is Back]

It looks like nothing at all.


Took the words right out of my mouth.

[shs13]

from seeing both teams play..Isiah our Rb ran for 115 yards or so on20 carries against westlake..marcus wright has a better run blocking oline and is a better RB then Za..but we had them 2 big recivers so that kept westlake form stackin the boxs..

as for westlake this will be the best offense reagans faced..better then seguin madison churchill MAC..i dont think reagans D will have enough to stop westlake

it seemed like westlake had troubles stopping the slants agsint us..but man can westlakes kicker boom it!

i think westlake wins this buy 7-10 points

[Mean DT]

It looks like nothing at all.That's what the rest
thought.:D

[Reaganrattler07]

from seeing both teams play..Isiah our Rb ran for 115 yards or so on20 carries against westlake..marcus wright has a better run blocking oline and is a better RB then Za..but we had them 2 big recivers so that kept westlake form stackin the boxs..

as for westlake this will be the best offense reagans faced..better then seguin madison churchill MAC..i dont think reagans D will have enough to stop westlake

it seemed like westlake had troubles stopping the slants agsint us..but man can westlakes kicker boom it!

i think westlake wins this buy 7-10 points

Well, we don't have 6'5" recievers obviously. But they are guys you have to respect.

Or at least I would if I were a DC.

[shs13]

Well, we don't have 6'5" recievers obviously. But they are guys you have to respect.

Or at least I would if I were a DC.

yep..as long as yall can keep em honset in the passing game wright should be able to get his yards..our defense was to over aggresive against yall and fell for the trick plays

[Reaganrattler07]

yep..as long as yall can keep em honset in the passing game wright should be able to get his yards..our defense was to over aggresive against yall and fell for the trick plays

Yeah. I was suprised we used as many as we did. HB Option and Double Pass.

But if we can get one-on-one coverage with the recievers we can expect some passing plays.

I like our chances for offense. Just no turnovers.

Defense, like I said will need to play lights out.

I like our special teams play so that'll help us out. And from what I heard Westlake has a good special teams unit. So we'll see how that works out.

[shs13]

Yeah. I was suprised we used as many as we did. HB Option and Double Pass.

But if we can get one-on-one coverage with the recievers we can expect some passing plays.

I like our chances for offense. Just no turnovers.

Defense, like I said will need to play lights out.

I like our special teams play so that'll help us out. And from what I heard Westlake has a good special teams unit. So we'll see how that works out.

yup yall did a good job keepin it away form our kick retuners..they were like part of our offense with all the good field position they gave us..Westlake has a better kicker dont get me wrong yalls is good to but i think westlake will have a lil advantage on special teams..

if yalls defense plays the way it did in the 4th quarter against us i can see reagan winning

[Reaganrattler07]

yup yall did a good job keepin it away form our kick retuners..they were like part of our offense with all the good field position they gave us..Westlake has a better kicker dont get me wrong yalls is good to but i think westlake will have a lil advantage on special teams..

if yalls defense plays the way it did in the 4th quarter against us i can see reagan winning

I love our kicker. He can make all the kicks. I know I'm gonna sound super bias. But I've seen some good kickers but I know what ours can do and I like the way he does things.

But we'll have to play defense like that and then some for the entire game, I think.

[dt1064]

yep..as long as yall can keep em honset in the passing game wright should be able to get his yards..our defense was to over aggresive against yall and fell for the trick plays


Yep, that's what got Seguin. A couple of trick plays.:o So Westlake watch out, cover the recievers.

[RR08]

Yep, that's what got Seguin. A couple of trick plays.:o So Westlake watch out, cover the recievers.

Seguin got burned for 21 points in 6:30 they couldve of put the game away but that Rattler D came up big in big moments and they couldnt. Yall got beat by the team that wanted it more.

[Reaganrattler07]

Seguin got burned for 21 points in 6:30 they couldve of put the game away but that Rattler D came up big in big moments and they couldnt. Yall got beat by the team that wanted it more.

We did get 14 off of trick plays.

And the D did come up big. And having Marcus sure as heck didn't impair us.

[dt1064]

Seguin got burned for 21 points in 6:30 they couldve of put the game away but that Rattler D came up big in big moments and they couldnt. Yall got beat by the team that wanted it more.

I really don't want to go there again, Seguin came back from being behind too. They could have laid down but didn't. Imo, the guys got big headed when the got up and had 9 min in the game left. They and the coaches let down their guard. I don't think "wanting it more" had anything to do with it.

Westlake, imo, will not make the same mistake. Better coaches. Tradition.

[dt1064]

Seguin must have made an impression on you, you all keep bringing them back from the dead.:confused:

[rattlerfan]

[QUOTE=chapadelic]So, I have a question to you San Antonio fans who follow SA football more closely than I.

Is Reagan considered to have a better rushing attack than Churchill or Jay???

Early in the season most SA fans would have said no way..Resendez was a bruising running back for Churchill..but there was a change in Reagan over the season...you wonder if supernatural stuff was happening over there...it happened after the Madison game when basically realized they can score at will...it's not all Wright.. yes he is a huge part and yes he can singlehandedly take a game over..but there are other weapons...the rushing attack is now led by Wright with Derek Wells at QB...the full back gets his yards when he needs to..Regan has a lethal running attack that is clicking on all cylinders..it is awesome to watch..

[rattlerfan]

I really don't want to go there again, Seguin came back from being behind too. They could have laid down but didn't. Imo, the guys got big headed when the got up and had 9 min in the game left. They and the coaches let down their guard. I don't think "wanting it more" had anything to do with it.

Westlake, imo, will not make the same mistake. Better coaches. Tradition.

Yes the Seguin coaches made critical mistakes at the end of the game..but even more problematic was the kids got rattled for Seguin..the body language said that...wanting it more is not getting scared like Seguin did..they sensed a comeback..when it was just a re-awakening...rattler magic..

[TEAMFALCON]

Week 13 - Los Fresnos (12-1) PA - 19 According to many RGV junkies, this was one of the best Valley offenses EVER. And Westlake shut them down cold. giving up only 13 points with our 1st D in. They could pass, they could run, but they couldn't do either on Saturday.


You got that right.

We moved the ball in the first half twice inside the 10 yard line where WL stopped us. We should have scored but WL bend but don't break D came alive.
(we still talk about those 2 stops and how we should have come away with 14 points):mad:

The second half we came out strong to make it 31-13 with the WL 1st team D and there was a glimmer of hope.

Bend but don't break, I think that's right. Even though the Los Fresnos QB had 319 yards passing and 2 TD with 144 yard rushing LF only 3 times (1 with 6 min in the 4th Q) WL still didn't allow LF to score.

Here is the WL/LF game breakdown:

Falcons 480 total yards (319 passing 167 rushing)
WL 439 total yards (302 passing 137 rushing)

How does WL put up 45 points and LF 19 with the yardage mentioned above?

WL runs an effecient Offense. No mistakes and their D bends but doesn't break.

[crawford86]

Dont forget this weak Reagan defense beat seguin!;)

if westlake played seguin itd be a whole new story..westlake would roll them. I think westlake can expect the same thing they are supposed to expect from a playoff team and thats that its the playoffs and no team is gunna roll over for them...we know what to do in this situation...its gunna be a long night for Reagan...end of story

[shooter]

if westlake played seguin itd be a whole new story..westlake would roll them. I think westlake can expect the same thing they are supposed to expect from a playoff team and thats that its the playoffs and no team is gunna roll over for them...we know what to do in this situation...its gunna be a long night for Reagan...end of story


Game time is 12noon Saturday. Neither team will have a long night.

[CKE]

Who knows with Reagan they are not consitant ask a SV or judson poster if the D is good and they will say they are best around then go ask any team they have played in the playoffs and they will laugh. you really dont know what to expect. I think if you dont beat them in the first half then your most likley going to lose because thy seem to be a 2nd half team like SV.

[RedRage00]

So are you going to the game Saturday CKE?

[CKE]

So are you going to the game Saturday CKE?

Yeah ill be there I have a cousin that plays for reagan and I have to support him

[crawford86]

Game time is 12noon Saturday. Neither team will have a long night.

lol thanks for the catch....long day, i mean

[CKE]

reagan definatly doesnt have a bad defense. great d line and good linebackers. secondary didnt play well in the OC game and in the first half of the united game but they will be ready to play saturday. this game should be good

Thats an understatment

[rattlerfan]

if westlake played seguin itd be a whole new story..westlake would roll them. I think westlake can expect the same thing they are supposed to expect from a playoff team and thats that its the playoffs and no team is gunna roll over for them...we know what to do in this situation...its gunna be a long night for Reagan...end of story

played them again..? that is so weak...I guess the same goes for Austin high..they have appeared to choke on this very same stage...the mental toughness is questionable..even some of the fans arent sure...that does not bode well for westlake...

[crawford86]

played them again..? that is so weak...I guess the same goes for Austin high..they have appeared to choke on this very same stage...the mental toughness is questionable..even some of the fans arent sure...that does not bode well for westlake...

well considering that westlake has never lost to austin high and we always spanked them every year. I dont think that Austin high is on the list of teams to worry about every year...I know the game saturday is gunna be a great game..prolly the toughest game all year for both teams. itll be a highscore game.

[DiamondJ2]

if westlake played seguin itd be a whole new story..westlake would roll them. I think westlake can expect the same thing they are supposed to expect from a playoff team and thats that its the playoffs and no team is gunna roll over for them...we know what to do in this situation...its gunna be a long night for Reagan...end of story
And if UT played A & M or Kansas they would win as with AW & Seguin, but they can't so it's a mute observation. Don't sell Reagan defense short. They will make the necessary stops. If Reagan doesn't make turnovers, then the Chaps could be in for a rough afternoon.

[CKE]

And if UT played A & M or Kansas they would win as with AW & Seguin, but they can't so it's a mute observation. Don't sell Reagan defense short. They will make the necessary stops. If Reagan doesn't make turnovers, then the Chaps could be in for a rough afternoon.
I dont see how you can think reagans D is that good

[rattlerfan]

I dont see how you can think reagans D is that good
You have to consider the circumstances and their hsitory..the points in the post season dont tell the whole story..if u were at the games u might have a different point of view

[tayb]

Um....what defense? Reagan doesn't have one of those things you call a defense...

Think about this...48,47,34...those are the points allowed in the playoffs(for thos of you math-challenged that is 43 points a game) . There is an age old record in college football... No team has ever won a championship in the same season their defense has given up 40 or more points on any occasion. Sorry but the cindarella story comes to an end this weekend.

[RR08]

Um....what defense? Reagan doesn't have one of those things you call a defense...

Reagan is going to get a reality slap, powerful offenses don't win championships and never will. I'm sorry but the cindarella story ends this week when they face their first actual good team.

I think Seguin or SV or O'Connor are good teams. Our D isnt all that bad! Our D may not be the 85 Bears but we make the stops when we need to.

[CKE]

You have to consider the circumstances and their hsitory..the points in the post season dont tell the whole story..if u were at the games u might have a different point of view

I was at the games

[DiamondJ2]

I didn't say Reagan's defense was great, but that it came up with the stops when it was necesary. Offense keeps them in the game. Defense played a very good 2nd half against LU. Ohio State may differ with you in their last game. Reagan is the old bend (almost all the way over), but not break defense. I don't disagree that defense wins championships, but sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Scary and exciting. Could it carry Reagan to the next level? Possibly. Depends if AW can stop the run, but beware of the timely passes of Reagan.

[dt1064]

Maybe after Reagan wins state they can take on the Cowboys. :rolleyes:

[RR08]

Maybe after Reagan wins state they can take on the Cowboys. :rolleyes:

Where did that come from?

[rattlerfan]

I was at the games

Ok then u know how many points were scored at the end of regulation in the seguin game..and the oconnor game..and how many against the 1st team at the laredo game..note united had a great QB....dont take final point totals...some of u guys just dont understand statistics...

[dt1064]

Where did that come from?
Reagan's so good nobody can beat them. Scheduling any more games is a waste of time.;)

[CKE]

Ok then u know how many points were scored at the end of regulation in the seguin game..and the oconnor game..and how many against the 1st team at the laredo game..note united had a great QB....dont take final point totals...some of u guys just dont understand statistics...
I was not at the o'conner game but i think it was 27 no? Thats not a very great statistic is it. And i do understand statistics very well. heres 2 for you the Reagan defense gave up the all time city rushing record in a single game for San antonio and the all time passing record in a single game in the state.Do you understand those stats?

[crawford86]

Reagan's so good nobody can beat them. Scheduling any more games is a waste of time.;)

thats what it sounds like from all the reagan fans..that they cant be stopped,but seeing as theyve lost 4 games to westlakes 2 games...well we'll see what happens on saturday

[TEAMFALCON]

Some video clips of the Los Fresnos Westlake game here: http://www.teamfalcon.net/2006WESTLAKE.html

The majority of the clips show when LF was doing good :) .

[Reaganrattler07]

thats what it sounds like from all the reagan fans..that they cant be stopped,but seeing as theyve lost 4 games to westlakes 2 games...well we'll see what happens on saturday

Hell, hang'em for supporting their team.

Some of you all need some thicker skin and to actually grow a pair.

[Oskie07]

I think Reagan's defense is getting way to much credit on this thread. They have never been known as a great defensive team throughout their history. Like someone mentioned before in this thread they gave up the San Antonio city rushing record this year and the state passing record this year. How that equates to good defense I'm not really sure. In my book that's not too good. Call me crazy !!

I can name off multiple teams in the SA area that play much better D than Reagan. I've already posted my thoughts on the game, but here they are again. Westlake by double digits probably 14+. I'm not trying to hate on Reagan, but reality is reality.

[rattlerfan]

I was not at the o'conner game but i think it was 27 no? Thats not a very great statistic is it. And i do understand statistics very well. heres 2 for you the Reagan defense gave up the all time city rushing record in a single game for San antonio and the all time passing record in a single game in the state.Do you understand those stats?

understand ur team is sitting at home how about that stat...

[rattlerfan]

I think Reagan's defense is getting way to much credit on this thread. They have never been known as a great defensive team throughout their history. Like someone mentioned before in this thread they gave up the San Antonio city rushing record this year and the state passing record this year. How that equates to good defense I'm not really sure. In my book that's not too good. Call me crazy !!

I can name off multiple teams in the SA area that play much better D than Reagan. I've already posted my thoughts on the game, but here they are again. Westlake by double digits probably 14+. I'm not trying to hate on Reagan, but reality is reality. reality is all those other teams are at home...maybe on playstation playing better d..westlake will fold...just like the other years...

[crawford86]

reality is all those other teams are at home...maybe on playstation playing better d..westlake will fold...just like the other years...

how many state apperances has Reagan had?

[rattlerfan]

how many state apperances has Reagan had?

how many times has westlake lost? in the big one? CHOKELAKE? Sounds catchy...

[Oskie07]

Including this year - zero !!

[Reaganrattler07]

how many state apperances has Reagan had?

And how many 1st, 2nd and 3rd round appearances had we had?

[Oskie07]

That would be 1 of each.

[crawford86]

weve lost more times in state then yall have been to state

[Reaganrattler07]

That would be 1 of each.

How many wins and losses?

[Oskie07]

Are you special or somethin' ??

[CKE]

understand ur team is sitting at home how about that stat...

Thats not a stat moron.... now who was the one that does not understand stats.

[rattlerfan]

Are you special or somethin' ??
yup..the rattlers are..special

[CKE]

yup..the rattlers are..special
Yeah that San marcos team is something else I agree

[crawford86]

lol westlakes been to state more times then reagan has won district championships i bet.

[realREAGANrattler]

lol westlakes been to state more times then reagan has won district championships i bet.
its a fairly new school...

[CKE]

lol westlakes been to state more times then reagan has won district championships i bet.

Reagan has never won a district championship

[crawford86]

its a fairly new school...

so ur sayin thats the reason why? ok thats understandable but lets not have people sayin how we suck for losing all the times weve been to state even tho thats one step farther then reagan.

[realREAGANrattler]

so ur sayin thats the reason why? ok thats understandable but lets not have people sayin how we suck for losing all the times weve been to state even tho thats one step farther then reagan.
yea that is the reason why..

i personally dont agree with the idea that history makes that big of an impact yea it might help a little but its not a huge factor when these current players werent on those teams

[crawford86]

yea that is the reason why..

i personally dont agree with the idea that history makes that big of an impact yea it might help a little but its not a huge factor when these current players werent on those teams

what current players

[crawford86]

Reagan has never won a district championship

oh yea i forgot, this is the second time westlake hasnt won a district championship in 14 years, its a bummer lol.

[realREAGANrattler]

what current players
the players that are playing now..
from westlake..

[realREAGANrattler]

oh yea i forgot, this is the second time westlake hasnt won a district championship in 14 years, its a bummer lol.
we all arent so lucky not to be playing in 265.

[crawford86]

we all arent so lucky not to be playing in 265.

theres nothing weak with 255 either

[realREAGANrattler]

theres nothing weak with 255 either
this year

[crawford86]

this year

well westlakes managed to do it every other year in 255 eccept for bein in 16-5 2 years ago.

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

Some video clips of the Los Fresnos Westlake game here: http://www.teamfalcon.net/2006WESTLAKE.html

The majority of the clips show when LF was doing good :) .

Thank you TEAMFALCON, you have been nothing but a class act. I respect your sportsmanship a lot and wish your school the best of luck in the future.

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

this year

Alright look, apparantly you beleive your own bull so much that you refuse to see the truth. Our "weak and pitiful" district has already beaten two of your "almighty, little SEC, 265A" teams, and will almost surely beat at least one more this weekend. It's pretty obvious that either your district is equal absolute crap, which is what you seem to think of our district, or that 25-5A is a pretty damn good district as well.

[realREAGANrattler]

Alright look, apparantly you beleive your own bull so much that you refuse to see the truth. Our "weak and pitiful" district has already beaten two of your "almighty, little SEC, 265A" teams, and will almost surely beat at least one more this weekend. It's pretty obvious that either your district is equal absolute crap, which is what you seem to think of our district, or that 25-5A is a pretty damn good district as well.
well um 265 has beaten 2 of yours as well..

[Reaganrattler07]

well um 265 has beaten 2 of yours as well..

When you talk to him, you are not allowed to use logic and fact.

[crawford86]

and what happens if westlake beats the crap out of yall this weekend. R yall gunna say we got lucky or that it was yalls off day and that yall are still better? or r yall gunna say we played better and possibly still are better. I know we will say yall played better IF yall win.

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

well um 265 has beaten 2 of yours as well..

thats why I said your district is either Equal to crap, or ours is equally good.

[realREAGANrattler]

and what happens if westlake beats the crap out of yall this weekend. R yall gunna say we got lucky or that it was yalls off day and that yall are still better? or r yall gunna say we played better and possibly still are better. I know we will say yall played better IF yall win.
woah i didnt say westlake was bad

i dont know what ill say because the game hasnt been played yet but i really hope the better team wins

[realREAGANrattler]

thats why I said your district is either Equal to crap, or ours is equally good.
and thats why i said "this year"

[crawford86]

woah i didnt say westlake was bad

i dont know what ill say because the game hasnt been played yet but i really hope the better team wins

i know its good to take pride in ur team but hell its like no matter what people have to say its like the other team is still better no matter what so i was just checkin.

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

and thats why i said "this year"

You said that 25-5A was weak this year. Now I'm telling you that this "weak" district has already beaten 2 of your teams, and has shown that so far, they are equal to 26-5A this year. So that means that when you called our district weak, you were saying that your district was just as weak.

Do you think you can follow that our do I need to make it clearer?

[realREAGANrattler]

i know its good to take pride in ur team but hell its like no matter what people have to say its like the other team is still better no matter what so i was just checkin.
i believe performance on the field decides whos better:)

[realREAGANrattler]

You said that 25-5A was weak this year. Now I'm telling you that this "weak" district has already beaten 2 of your teams, and has shown that so far, they are equal to 26-5A this year. So that means that when you called our district weak, you were saying that your district was just as weak.

Do you think you can follow that our do I need to make it clearer?


i said 25-5A isnt weak this year

theres nothing weak with 255 either
this year

can you follow?

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

i said 25-5A isnt weak this year




can you follow?

Alright yeah, I see what you meant now. I took your "this year" comment as a rebuttle to his "theres nothing weak about 255" remark instead of being a completion of his statement. Sorry for kind of coming at you there, but I think that you are underestimating the quality of that district in the past though.

[dt1064]

What are the win/loss totals for Westlake the past six years, and what is the win/loss totals for Reagan?:confused:

[RR08]

What are the win/loss totals for Westlake the past six years, and what is the win/loss totals for Reagan?:confused:

That dont matter look at what we did to Seguin

[dt1064]

I just asked a simple question.:p

[crawford86]

i believe performance on the field decides whos better:)

no it depends on looks, hahaha not, yea u think, whoever comes out and performs better will take the win.

[Central Texas Fan]

I found these video clips on an amazing site I just became aware of. Kudos to Texas Preps for posting hundreds of player's clips.

These clips are for QB Nick Foles and RB Max Minor of Westlake. For those that haven't seen Westlake play, you'll see the diversity of the offense. You will also notice how Westlake likes to attack vertically rather than like the "Spread" offenses used nowdays that attack horizontally near the line of scrimmage, and then rely on the receivers to make plays.

When looking at Foles highlights (most from last year), notice not only the play-action as Westlake attacks, but where the ball is delivered to the receivers. Sometimes the receivers are wide-open, but sometimes they are covered and the ball is thrown where only his receiver can get to it.

Good luck to all. It should be fun on Saturday.

http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA092.wmv
http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA095.wmv

[playthatball]

I found these video clips on an amazing site I just became aware of. Kudos to Texas Preps for posting hundreds of player's clips.

These clips are for QB Nick Foles and RB Max Minor of Westlake. For those that haven't seen Westlake play, you'll see the diversity of the offense. You will also notice how Westlake likes to attack vertically rather than like the "Spread" offenses used nowdays that attack horizontally near the line of scrimmage, and then rely on the receivers to make plays.

When looking at Foles highlights (most from last year), notice not only the play-action as Westlake attacks, but where the ball is delivered to the receivers. Sometimes the receivers are wide-open, but sometimes they are covered and the ball is thrown where only his receiver can get to it.

Good luck to all. It should be fun on Saturday.

http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA092.wmv
http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA095.wmv

Boy Staton and Ball sure make Nick look good!!!

[dj31588]

heres all i have to say...

if the over/under is say 84, which would you say? id personally have to take the over...i dont think either team will be making too many stops out there...should be a wild one

[CKE]

That dont matter look at what we did to Seguin

Seguin was not that great of a team in past years and always went out in the first round so you really didnt do anything new to them.

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

Boy Staton and Ball sure make Nick look good!!!

Nick has better stats this year without them. It's true that great recievers make any quarterback look better, but to say that Nick is not an incredible quarterback on his own is just plain wrong. Staton was unbelievable. Ball was a great receiver, if he caught the ball. Unfortunately he dropped about as many as he caught.

[rattlerfan]

Nick has better stats this year without them. It's true that great recievers make any quarterback look better, but to say that Nick is not an incredible quarterback on his own is just plain wrong. Staton was unbelievable. Ball was a great receiver, if he caught the ball. Unfortunately he dropped about as many as he caught.

he'll drop some more and foles will throw INT's just looking at the averages..

[Texas Born,Chaparral Bred]

he'll drop some more and foles will throw INT's just looking at the averages..

Wow you are dumb. Ball is gone. He graduated. He is no longer on the team. Hence all the past tense that everything about him was said in. You also have no reason to believe that Foles will throw any INTs, you just keep randomly saying he will throw "multiple interceptions."

[Westlake10]

he'll drop some more and foles will throw INT's just looking at the averages..


Ball won't drop any more because he graduated last year and now plays football at Duke.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22667&SPID=1843&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=319247&Q_SEASON=2006

[crawford86]

Ball won't drop any more because he graduated last year and now plays football at Duke.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22667&SPID=1843&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=319247&Q_SEASON=2006

see he goes around talkin crap sayin people dont know anything about the schools and then he says that ball will drop a pass thrown by foles even tho hes already playing at duke.

[dt1064]

Back to the question. Imo Westlake will find big holes in Ragans defense.
Reagan will get burned deep.

[CKE]

Back to the question. Imo Westlake will find big holes in Ragans defense.
Reagan will get burned deep.

Yes

[rattlerfan]

Ball won't drop any more because he graduated last year and now plays football at Duke.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22667&SPID=1843&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=319247&Q_SEASON=2006
at duke...numb____

[playthatball]

Nick has better stats this year without them. It's true that great recievers make any quarterback look better, but to say that Nick is not an incredible quarterback on his own is just plain wrong. Staton was unbelievable. Ball was a great receiver, if he caught the ball. Unfortunately he dropped about as many as he caught.

Actually my statement was more directed at the fact that the clips are from last year, not this year and if you care to view the clips there are some amazing catches on there especially from Jobe!!!

But I do agree with you that Foles is a fantastic drop back QB and very smart, also your right for some odd reason Ball in his soph and junior years caught everything thrown his way but last year he seemed to not care to make the effort to catch many, kinda like TO.

[GOAT]

westlake can expect nothing

[rattlerfan]

westlake can expect nothing

that's what they are expecting...

[rattlerfan]

I found these video clips on an amazing site I just became aware of. Kudos to Texas Preps for posting hundreds of player's clips.

These clips are for QB Nick Foles and RB Max Minor of Westlake. For those that haven't seen Westlake play, you'll see the diversity of the offense. You will also notice how Westlake likes to attack vertically rather than like the "Spread" offenses used nowdays that attack horizontally near the line of scrimmage, and then rely on the receivers to make plays.

When looking at Foles highlights (most from last year), notice not only the play-action as Westlake attacks, but where the ball is delivered to the receivers. Sometimes the receivers are wide-open, but sometimes they are covered and the ball is thrown where only his receiver can get to it.

Good luck to all. It should be fun on Saturday.

http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA092.wmv
http://64.237.99.126/clips/2007BA095.wmv foles looks awesome

[MacWrestling]

One thing that a lot of people might not be taking into consideration about the Reagan Rattlers is there new Offensive Cordinator this year. Coach Carroll. He was at Roosevelt when they won State and also coached with Glen Hill when TR was pretty dominate. He was an AWESOME RB at Hardin-Simmons and was built A LOT like Marcus when he was in High School.

He has finally been able to run "his" offense and it is clicking on all cyclinders. With such a strong running back in Marcus Wright and now a Running/Throwing QB, the only thing that will keep Reagan from beating Westlake in my opinion is whether or not the Rattler Defense is ready!

I think any comparisons of Reagan before the Madison game is a waste of time. The QB change occured the 2nd half of the Churchill game and the 1st start for him was the Mac Game. He is only 15 years old, weighs 145 and still has braces. Every game he gets better and better!

This game will be close. I pick Reagan because they just keep getting better and better. And because I think Westlake can't stop Marcus.

One thing for sure, I can't wait to see the game!:)

p.s. I think the toughest offenses the Rattlers have faced are Mac and Madison. They lost both those games. But this is a much different team than they were early in the season.

Go Mac! Go Rattlers!