The rivalry intenses

[bhs06]

Last night our game lasted forever. It gave the Trinity players and students time to get over to our school to meet our bus out by the locker room doors.

Thankfully, our bus drivers drove the buses to the other side of the school and parked them there, we walked back to the locker room instead.

The Trinity players and students approached our doors after we went in, and some of our students noticed. After our talk in the weight room after we all got settled in, when we went back to the locker room there were 4 or 5 police cars out front and at least 15 people in handcuffs/on the ground.

A fight broke out between the two schools(not our players though). Seriously, if the Trojans want to win the state championship they have to grow up and not do anything like this.

I don't know if any of the Trojan players were arrested but many people claim to have seen Trevor Vittatoe(their QB) drive off with about 6 or 7 people crammed in a 4 door Sedan.

I am not making this up either, it happened, but it just makes our game October 14th even more intense rivalry wise.

[Raiderfan06]

I did not hear about that happening last night but now that it has been brought to my attention, one cant help but notice the character of the Trojan players and THS students. This ins't the first incident and somehow all the incidents start with Trinity students. I have never heard of an incident with Bell students at Trinity before. Coach Lineweaver should discipline the playes invovled becuase above athletes, the players are also students. If you were found fighting at school you would be suspended and ticketed. Anytime I see people with alot of "Trinity pride" all they say is that we beat Bell blah blah blah and thats all they can say. I dont see Trinity with a State Championship Band and a high academic standard. Also if you look at scores historically, Bell used to whip Trinity's *** before the Tongan community started moving into the area. With all said, this is exactly how Trinity's character shows in the community, a bunch of no good thugs.

[bhs06]

The police handled the situation very well. After we got off the bus in the student parking lot, we walked into the school by the slab(south parking lot) and into the weight room. Coach Olivo talked for about 5 minutes and we went into the locker room. When we went into the locker room it seemed like nothing was going on outside, but when we came out 5 police cars were there and we saw some cars speeding off towards Brown Trail and a police car or two following them.

Dmitri Nance is a very good person like Sherrod Harris, but I really don't know about the other Trinity players. It's at a general consensous throughout the H-E-B area that most students at Trinity are either wannabee Blink 1 8 2 bands or stoners.

[Red Raiders]

Good news! because so we can get more chances to beat Trinity. lol

[ths76021]

I heard about the incident at Bell h.s. I'd like to know if anyone can say if any Trinity football players were involved? If Trevor was at Bell, does that mean he was involved in the incident that took place? Can anyone say that he was even there when the incident took place? If people saw Trevor in a sedan, they are SADLY mistaken, because he drives a VAN.... Someone needs to be able to tell the difference in automobile body styles. Trevor and alot of kids at Trinity are good kids... It really is a bad attitude of trying to classify Trinity's character as no good thugs because of the high Tongan population at Trinity. There may be a few bad apples and that is true for ANY culture. But to classify the entire group is unfair.

[NTxTiger]

You must have read that on some other thread because the only time I see Tongans mentioned here is "Bell used to whip Trinity's *** before the Tongan community started moving into the area. With all said, this is exactly how Trinity's character shows in the community, a bunch of no good thugs." That looks like a compliment to the Tongan football talent, not a question of their character.

[ths76021]

I suppose we'd have to get Raiderfan06 to clarify his comment that ended in "a bunch of no good thugs" for us to understand his point of view. I don't believe anyone would take a statement ending like that as a compliment. Maybe while Raiderfan06 is at it, Maybe he can tell us his thought on "one cant help but notice the character of the Trojan players and THS students."
What is their character that is so noticable?
The initial issue is that Trinity football players have been called out as being involved in the incident at Bell H.S. Why would coach Lineweaver have to discipline any players if they weren't involved? Trevor Vittatoe was named in the thread because he was there at Bell. Can ANYONE say he was even involved in what happened? Most likely it was "assumed" because he is from Trinity and a football player. Did anyone ever think of the fact, that Trevor grew up in hurst before moving to Euless. Does anyone have any idea how many football players that Trevor still knows on the Bell football team? It appears he was called out because he was seen at Bell, not necessarily because he was involved in anything. That was unfair. Are we now to throw names out as possibly being guilty by association?

Who has determined what the general consensus was in HEB? Has there been a survey taken and if so, by whom to determine this consensus to say "that most students at Trinity are wannabee Blink 1 8 2 bands or stoners"? What exactly are you saying?

What does a "State Championship Band and a high academic standard." have to do with this conversation in the first place? Ok, Trinity has pride.. I believe that Bell does as well. Yes, the competition is on the football field, so that is why you hear "Trinity beat Bell". I know you'd be proud and saying "Bell beat Trinity" if Bell can beat Trinity on the football field. I don't know how many people pay the price of a football ticket to only go see the band at halftime besides the band members parents. Yes, Bell has a great band. Be proud. Be proud of your academic standards. That is great.

General statments Not based on facts leave alot of room for interpretation. That interpretation causes problems. I would ask that when posts are made, that is taken into consideration.

Thanks.

[Dallascaper]

I did not hear about that happening last night but now that it has been brought to my attention, one cant help but notice the character of the Trojan players and THS students. This ins't the first incident and somehow all the incidents start with Trinity students. I have never heard of an incident with Bell students at Trinity before. Coach Lineweaver should discipline the playes invovled becuase above athletes, the players are also students. If you were found fighting at school you would be suspended and ticketed. Anytime I see people with alot of "Trinity pride" all they say is that we beat Bell blah blah blah and thats all they can say. I dont see Trinity with a State Championship Band and a high academic standard. Also if you look at scores historically, Bell used to whip Trinity's *** before the Tongan community started moving into the area. With all said, this is exactly how Trinity's character shows in the community, a bunch of no good thugs.

At the risk of being drawn into your obvious inferiority complex regarding Trinity, I am going to challenge you to back up your statements with facts.

Also if you look at scores historically, Bell used to whip Trinity's *** before the Tongan community started moving into the area. With all said, this is exactly how Trinity's character shows in the community, a bunch of no good thugs.

Well, Raiderfan06, let's look at the history you refer to:
1970 14-0, Bell
1971 19-14, Bell
1972 14 - 14 tie
1973 unknown, but Trinity won
1974 21-12. Bell
1975 20-0, Bell
1976 21-7, Trinity
1977 14-0, Bell
1978 23-14, Trinity
1979 9-7, Trinity
1980 30-0, Trinity
1981 31-7, Trinity
1982 20-8, Bell
1982 14-14 tie (playoffs)
1983 21-10 Trinity
1984 28-0, Trinity
1985 21-6, Trinity
1986 24-21, Bell
1987 21-14, Bell
1988 16-7, Bell
1989 10-9, Trinity
1990 7-3, Trinity
1991 36-7, Trinity
1992 20-10, Bell
1993 16-3, Trinity
1994 21-7, Trinity
1995 18-13, Bell
1996 3-0, Bell
1997 26-7, Bell
1998 20-6, Trinity
1999 40-6, Trinity
2000 27-7, Trinity
2001 38-17, Trinity
2002 35-24, Trinity
2003 46-22, Trinity
2004 35-14, Trinity

Personally, I have no idea when Tongans first settled into Euless, but there were Tongans on Trinity's varsity football team at least as far back as the early '80s. Trinity had Tongans on their teams in the '80s & 90's; Bell managed to beat Trinity in the '80s & '90s, so please explain the connection that I have so obviously missed.

Frankly, I find your entire statement to be infentile and absurd. I know it must be very difficult to lose to your biggest rival for years on end...I take that back, I have no idea; I went to Trinity. Nevertheless, I suggest you learn to either back up your inflamatory statements with facts, or please refrain from making stupid statements; Bell has enough problems wthout you making it worse.

[RidgePride]

At the risk of being drawn into your obvious inferiority complex regarding Trinity, I am going to challenge you to back up your statements with facts.



Well, Raiderfan06, let's look at the history you refer to:
1970 14-0, Bell
1971 19-14, Bell
1972 14 - 14 tie
1973 unknown, but Trinity won
1974 21-12. Bell
1975 20-0, Bell
1976 21-7, Trinity
1977 14-0, Bell
1978 23-14, Trinity
1979 9-7, Trinity
1980 30-0, Trinity
1981 31-7, Trinity
1982 20-8, Bell
1982 14-14 tie (playoffs)
1983 21-10 Trinity
1984 28-0, Trinity
1985 21-6, Trinity
1986 24-21, Bell
1987 21-14, Bell
1988 16-7, Bell
1989 10-9, Trinity
1990 7-3, Trinity
1991 36-7, Trinity
1992 20-10, Bell
1993 16-3, Trinity
1994 21-7, Trinity
1995 18-13, Bell
1996 3-0, Bell
1997 26-7, Bell
1998 20-6, Trinity
1999 40-6, Trinity
2000 27-7, Trinity
2001 38-17, Trinity
2002 35-24, Trinity
2003 46-22, Trinity
2004 35-14, Trinity

Personally, I have no idea when Tongans first settled into Euless, but there were Tongans on Trinity's varsity football team at least as far back as the early '80s. Trinity had Tongans on their teams in the '80s & 90's; Bell managed to beat Trinity in the '80s & '90s, so please explain the connection that I have so obviously missed.

Frankly, I find your entire statement to be infentile and absurd. I know it must be very difficult to lose to your biggest rival for years on end...I take that back, I have no idea; I went to Trinity. Nevertheless, I suggest you learn to either back up your inflamatory statements with facts, or please refrain from making stupid statements; Bell has enough problems wthout you making it worse.
In 91 Bell won 36-7 Not Trinity FYI

Trinity has had Tongans since at least 1990 I know that for a fact. Trinity has always been big. Bell Just used to be really good- Good coaching and a passing offense ahead of its time.
Bell still has talent But the coaching was horrible.

Trinity did not get real good until Lineweaver came in. The Talent and Tongans were always there.

[Dallascaper]

In 91 Bell won 36-7 Not Trinity FYI

Trinity has had Tongans since at least 1990 I know that for a fact. Trinity has always been big. Bell Just used to be really good- Good coaching and a passing offense ahead of its time.
Bell still has talent But the coaching was horrible.

Trinity did not get real good until Lineweaver came in. The Talent and Tongans were always there.

You are correct, Bell won in '91. That was John Reddell's last game as Trinity's coach, and I remember being livid at the man for allowing Trinity to fall as far as he did. It's kind of sad, but John Reddell was a good coach for at least 10 years, but he had a very unapproachable and aloof style. By '87, the players had lost respect for their coach and simply stopped working hard for the man.

I don't remember Bell being all that consistent in the past, even under Tim Edwards. Bell had two great teams, '82 & '86, who account for nearly all of Bell's playoff wins the last 25 years at least. I think Bell might have won a bi-district game with Tommy Maddox at quarterback, but that's it. If someone has Bell's historical playoff record, it would be interesting to see; it certainly would pop the bubble of delusion the current crop of Raiders seem to have constructed for themselves.

[CoppellCowboy57]

You know I have ALOT of friends from the HEB area, and I have met alot of ppl who go to ET...Some of them yes are thugs, other arnt so much thugs. Every single one of them has told me Tongans can be really mean, and down right scary sometimes if you get on the bad side of them. Now not everyone from ET is a thug though, Alot of them just find them selfs at the wrong place at the wrong time. (i found that happening alot to me when I was down there last spring).

Bell shouldnt get the Panties in a bunch because of this event, im sure it'll happen again, and again, and again, until the game. Im sure they will be more smack talking until the game.

[zippy]

Please someone, what in the heck is a Tongan?



You know I have ALOT of friends from the HEB area, and I have met alot of ppl who go to ET...Some of them yes are thugs, other arnt so much thugs. Every single one of them has told me Tongans can be really mean, and down right scary sometimes if you get on the bad side of them. Now not everyone from ET is a thug though, Alot of them just find them selfs at the wrong place at the wrong time. (i found that happening alot to me when I was down there last spring).

Bell shouldnt get the Panties in a bunch because of this event, im sure it'll happen again, and again, and again, until the game. Im sure they will be more smack talking until the game.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Please someone, what in the heck is a Tongan?


they are from an Island or somthing, there big (i mean really big) and pretty scary, most of them have pretty mean attitudes, they moved to Euless in the 80s around then i think...but I dont know why, It would be nice to know why, if anyone knows...*coughs BHS*

[CCHS77]

they are from an Island or somthing, there big (i mean really big) and pretty scary, most of them have pretty mean attitudes, they moved to Euless in the 80s around then i think...but I dont know why, It would be nice to know why, if anyone knows...*coughs BHS*

Last year a poster insisted that the Tongans are in Euless because of American Airlines. I don't know if they meant HQ or DFW, or both.

[zippy]

From the way people were talking, and the name itself, that is what I figured. However, I did not think that was the case because I could not figure out why they would move there. I really would like to know why they came now. And do they play football?


they are from an Island or somthing, there big (i mean really big) and pretty scary, most of them have pretty mean attitudes, they moved to Euless in the 80s around then i think...but I dont know why, It would be nice to know why, if anyone knows...*coughs BHS*

[svrangerfan]

They do play football. Jerod Douglas made them look silly in the 92 or so 5A D1 title game. I disagree with the guy who says they won't win state because they have no class. Judson has been doing it for years.

[svrangerfan]

Just kidding.

[zippy]

Well, I am for sure taking a cab to the game now, thanks..


They do play football. Jerod Douglas made them look silly in the 92 or so 5A D1 title game. I disagree with the guy who says they won't win state because they have no class. Judson has been doing it for years.

[svrangerfan]

Meet me in Temple Zippy and I'll help you with cab fare. I did say JK I guess it doesn't count.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Because of DFW? whys that, ive always wonderd why Tongans have come to the DFW area and Euless...

[zippy]

I might do that.. :) I know you were joking, but I really dont think that Judson will do anything to SV cars this year. I really want to load up the moron that wrote the KKK on the bus and take him in exchange for not messing our cars up. Can you help me with that instead.


Meet me in Temple Zippy and I'll help you with cab fare. I did say JK I guess it doesn't count.

[Dallascaper]

Because of DFW? whys that, ive always wonderd why Tongans have come to the DFW area and Euless...

Tongans have a reputation for being very clannish; you attack one and the whole group comes after you. Trinity's solution: Put Tongnas on the football team and let the opposing school deal with them.


Anyway, some people may find this article interesting:



Paving the way: Trinity's success is built on offensive linemen

12:20 AM CST on Friday, November 26, 2004

By TIM MacMAHON / The Dallas Morning News

EULESS – Offensive linemen are, by and large, anonymous creatures. Except at Euless Trinity.

The big guys get more than their share of glory at Trinity.

In fact, coach Steve Lineweaver said offensive line is the glamour position in his program. The school's tradition of outstanding offensive lines is so strong that the linemen enjoy celebrity status in the community.

"It's the Hawgs," the linemen hear kids say with awe when they walk through town.

Of course, the Trinity linemen are kind of hard to miss. Tackle Chris Eidd (6-3, 330) and guards Pasa Mohetau (6-2, 376) and Saia Falahola (6-2, 310) tend to stick out in crowds. Center Dustin Simmons (5-8, 240) and tackle Leon Ricard (5-8, 260) aren't as massive as their teammates, but they have scrappy attitudes to make up for it.
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Front line influences bottom line

Carrying on a tradition at Euless Trinity

The Trinity program's personality stems from the continued success of the offensive line. It's a team that prides itself on pounding away with the power running game and wearing down opposing defenses.

You won't find fancy formations and finesse football at Trinity, which plays Mansfield Summit in the Class 5A Division I Region I final at 7 p.m. Saturday at Texas Stadium. Trinity's preferred style is smash-mouth.

Or, as the Hawgs occasionally chant: "Rat 'em, splat 'em, right at 'em."

Lineweaver traces the offensive line's tradition at Trinity to 1976, when he was the junior varsity coach. Head coach John Reddell made a point to put the best big athletes on the offensive line, instead of following the trend of filling the defense first. Reddell also went out of his way to promote the offensive line – it was often the only unit he'd introduce at team functions – because it was generally the last position anybody wanted to play.

It wasn't too long before Trinity offensive linemen started receiving college scholarships. Among the first were Mike Baab (Texas) and Bill Bateman (Baylor).

"Ever since then, it's been kind of a cool thing here to be an offensive lineman," Lineweaver said.

It was just a coincidence that Euless experienced an influx of Tongans in 1982. American Airlines transferred hundreds of Tongan workers to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport that year, and many settled in Euless.

Tongans tend to be big, tough, hard-working people. In other words, they make great offensive linemen. Five of Trinity's eight all-state offensive linemen have been Tongan. Mohetau or Falahola, a junior, might add to the list.

Trinity football is a source of great pride in the local Tongan community. That's especially true for the offensive line.

"I go into every game thinking about the reputation we've got to hold and keep," said Mohetau, a senior whose brothers Sione and Ofa also were star guards for Trinity.

The line has done its part this season to continue the legacy. Trinity averages 250.4 rushing yards per game. The line has paved the way for three running backs to post double-digit touchdown totals – Akuila Eteaki (20), Dimitri Nance (18) and LaDerrick Handy (10) – during a 9-3 campaign.

But the line's legacy is about more than numbers, whether it's pounds, yards, touchdowns or wins. It's an attitude.

"It's effort and heart," Eidd said. "You've got to want to be an offensive lineman. You've really got to be committed."

Even in the rare instance when the spotlight shines on the line. :)