Plano East vs Tyler Lee

[Red Raiders]

This is going to be a good rematch game after Tyler Lee beating Plano East 2 years ago pretty bad. Plano East will have a revenge with that this playoff.

In 1st Round, Tyler Lee beat Dallas Molina 42 to 7. A few minutes ago with a Final Score for Plano East and Rockwall was 31-24. What a great game they had. Rockwall is a great team.

Onto Area Round, who do you think will win?

[SGP 06 Alumni]

Plano East 35
Tyler Lee 21

[Red Raiders]

Plano East 35
Tyler Lee 21

I doubt it, I don't think you know much about Lee though, we got some starters back so it will help us alot against Plano East,

[youtellatale]

This is one of several great Area round matchups across the state in 5a. Whichever team wins (which i think will be Tyler Lee) will be deserving of that win and the team that doesnt win should walk away with their heads held high.
Prediction: TL - 23
PE - 17

[toddg]

plano east is a hard team to gauge..they are great at times, then they are not so great at times..since i have not followed tyler lee very closly this year and therfore know little about them..i will just say this should be a very good game to watch, and let the result play out.

[Kingwolf]

I think that Lee will pull it out in the end...it just depends on which team shows up for Lee....

Lee 21

PE 17

[owlfan 1]

I doubt it, I don't think you know much about Lee though, we got some starters back so it will help us alot against Plano East,

And I don't think you know much about Plano East...

[ken-in-rockwall]

First, Congrats to Plano East for a Great game against Rockwall. And as I said I would support them if they won... so

GO PESH !!!

PESH 31
Lee 21

[PESHfan]

I'm sure hoping for another score like we had against Rockwell. ;)

Rikko Smalls is finally back as starting QB. His first quarter tonight was pretty rough, but he quickly got into the groove.

If all of our guys are back to full strength, they should do a great job next week. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Anyone know where the game will be played yet, and what time? I'm sure hoping for something close, like TS.

[PlanoTexan]

TV is reporting Texas Stadium on saturday. I don't know the gametime.

[PESHfan]

First, Congrats to Plano East for a Great game against Rockwall. And as I said I would support them if they won... so

GO PESH !!!

PESH 31
Lee 21

It certainly wasn't an easy win tonight. Rockwall proved to be a much better team than they were when we were in the same district together a few years ago. I was really glad to see that there weren't any bad ref calls on either team tonight. Both teams did a great job on the field tonight. Rockwall should definitely be proud of their performance.

I hope your score prediction comes true!

[ken-in-rockwall]

It certainly wasn't an easy win tonight. Rockwall proved to be a much better team than they were when we were in the same district together a few years ago. I was really glad to see that there weren't any bad ref calls on either team tonight. Both teams did a great job on the field tonight. Rockwall should definitely be proud of their performance.

I hope your score prediction comes true!

Had to hear the game on radio... There was like 3-4 penalties for the whole game.. Rockwall loses their RB's (Mathis and Dabny) but most should be back next year... Great game PESH.. they deserve it..

[JoeC]

There isn't much any of us should claim to know, so I'll put it this way: I'll be one surprised SOB if PESH scores 35 (or 30 anything for that matter) against TL's defense...:eek: Now, with that said, there's one thing that I do know, TL's got a pretty good defense, in fact PDG!!!

[PESHfan]

There isn't much any of us should claim to know, so I'll put it this way: I'll be one surprised SOB if PESH scores 35 (or 30 anything for that matter) against TL's defense...:eek: Now, with that said, there's one thing that I do know, TL's got a pretty good defense, in fact PDG!!!

Should be a pretty good game then! Hope none of them eat too much turkey on Thanksgiving.

Sounds like both teams have a pretty good defense going on. Our defense has had three shut-outs (should have been four, but we put in 2nd stringers against Plano and let them score late in the game). Allen was the only District team to score over 20 on our defense. The others only scored 7, 14 and 15.

Can't wait to buy my tickets on Tuesday for this game!

[Red Raiders]

And I don't think you know much about Plano East...

Hmm lets see,

I know Plano East has Offense and very good Defense shutting out 3 Regular Season Games. L. Finner and S. Anderlik are some good OL players for Plano East offense to help out with RB Bush just like they did in Week 8 having 220 yds. I am expecting them to do that again against a very good Lee defense leaving out some starters in Defense from what I saw in the newspaper against Dallas Molina. Some more Plano East players but this time for Defense, DT Skelton (Correct me If I get his name wrong but I know he plays DT), Robinson and Ankenbauer for Linebackers which really helped Plano East defense much better (very).

Onto scores if I can remember them, Mesquite beat Plano East by 1 pt in Opening Game and Tyler Lee beat Mesquite by 6 points in the last game which gives more prepare. From what I understand that everyone makes excuses about opening season that they're not much prepared then the end of the game. Another game that kind of impressed me was beating John Tyler 27-3 but they've not unleash RB K. Hunter much. Another game (The best one for Plano East) which was against #10 Allen in a very impressive game. I still give them credit because it was a great game for both teams.

Now Owlfan 1, does that give you enough information? (I assume most of them you don't know about Plano East). I guess I don't know much about Plano East. Is that right? ;)

Edit: Maybe Hall of Famer may not know all about this but All-Galaxy Poster could. I am not a Hall of Famer but I still know about teams.

[c-lisle]

Lee has a very good defense but the offense hasnt reached its potential.....dont know much about PESH but Lee wont go down easy

[eastvarsity07]

also helps when plano east has 8 turnovers vs. mesquite, and yet mesquite can only win by one... pretty good analysis esp since it was the first game of the season. Plus, I don't think we've had more than 2 turnovers in a game since then. Oh, and Lee beat Mesquite by 5, not 6... 14-9 isint all that impressive either. More facts for you:
-Lee beat Lake Highlands by 5, east shut them out and beat them by 37
-East beat Tyler John Tyler by 24, Lee beat them by 10
-Lee almost lost to a 1-9 Mesquite Horn, but won 10-7
-East PPG = 30.6, Lee PPG = 19.9
-East PAPG = 11.5, Lee PAPG = 14.0
Oh and those 'other' defensive players who you barely mentioned at all, Robinson is the #1 ranked OLB in America on ESPN and Skelton is #106 for DT. Have fun too stopping Slater, wish you luck there.
Good research kid.

[Football Bum]

If East is Healthy and Plays the game to their potential, then I think they will beat T. Lee.

[East Area]

Not a bad analysis but the one running back you talked about Bush hasnt played the last two games and who knows if he will actually play in the game but it wont really matter since since Slater is in the backfield and Riko is back playing again I think it will be a good game but its going to be hard to score points unless your running back is as ridiculous as the guy from rockwall

[GHSalumni]

Slater is a "do-it-all" back that Lee will need to find an answer to. The kid is used as a receiver as much as a rusher and is not always an easy takedown, he shows alot of determination on the field. He is a real sleeper and an X-factor on the PESH team from the games and highlights i've watched.

Good luck to both teams, should be a fantastic matchup. I pick PESH in another 1 score game. From what I've heard this game is gonna be at 4pm @ Texas Stadium Saturday followed by the Garland/Longview game at 7pm. I'm pretty sure that's accurate?

[LP-79]

Gotta go with East texas on this game!:D

[FeeltheHaka]

I can't come up with a prediction on this one. This is a great matchup. Plano East has really come far from last year. They have been very impressive. Tyler Lee has traditionally been a good team, but to me have been inconsistent this year. I did not vote in the poll. I believe it is going to come down to which Tyler Lee team shows up to the game.

[PESHfan]

Slater is a "do-it-all" back that Lee will need to find an answer to. The kid is used as a receiver as much as a rusher and is not always an easy takedown, he shows alot of determination on the field. He is a real sleeper and an X-factor on the PESH team from the games and highlights i've watched.

Good luck to both teams, should be a fantastic matchup. I pick PESH in another 1 score game. From what I've heard this game is gonna be at 4pm @ Texas Stadium Saturday followed by the Garland/Longview game at 7pm. I'm pretty sure that's accurate?

Chris Slater is definitely an impressive athlete. As good as he is in football, he had his choice between several football and baseball scholarships, and chose to go for his bigger love baseball. I wish him all the luck in his college career.

Looking at the results of Tyler Lee's season, the scores really didn't look very impressive. No disrespect to their team. Most of their games were very low scoring with close scores. I know that they've never lost to PESH, but this may be the year for that record to be broken. If the PESH guys are all healthy, they should have no problem delivering a win.

Good luck to both teams. It should be a lot of fun. Drive safe to TS.

[Jtate862003]

welll i know that dallas molina had no defense..but it did enable lee to get into a rhythm which they havent been able to do all yr on offense.....i have no doubt that lee's defense will be there....and i also see the offense starting to be better this wk....i think its going to work out well for lee this yr..i can see them going a few more rounds........with the offense getting better every wk


prediction


Lee 31

Pesh 17

[REL-76]

Well I’m sure East fans remember 2003 loss to Lee and will be looking for revenge in this one…Ok to me this game looks like another defensive battle and could be low scoring on both sides…on paper the edge seems to be in favor of East…Lee’s D has carried this team all year and now it’s banged up pretty bad with 4 starters out the last two games…don’t know if they will be back or not either…I have a feeling Coach Owens will have a good game plan for East and I also think Lee’s O steps up this week and helps out the D…it will be a battle but I think Lee wins this one with a balanced attack and special teams by 7…

[Pack0406]

Gotta go with East texas on this game!:D

Ditto. Got to stick with East Texas;)

[Favpack]

Tight predictions so far - and I agree. TLee is a very, very dangerous PO team - you will play your best game to beat them. This appears to be a toss-up -- I'll take Lee in an OT thriller.

24-21.

[PaulinPlano]

Hmm lets see,

I know Plano East has Offense and very good Defense shutting out 3 Regular Season Games. L. Finner and S. Anderlik are some good OL players for Plano East offense to help out with RB Bush just like they did in Week 8 having 220 yds. I am expecting them to do that again against a very good Lee defense leaving out some starters in Defense from what I saw in the newspaper against Dallas Molina. Some more Plano East players but this time for Defense, DT Skelton (Correct me If I get his name wrong but I know he plays DT), Robinson and Ankenbauer for Linebackers which really helped Plano East defense much better (very).

Onto scores if I can remember them, Mesquite beat Plano East by 1 pt in Opening Game and Tyler Lee beat Mesquite by 6 points in the last game which gives more prepare. From what I understand that everyone makes excuses about opening season that they're not much prepared then the end of the game. Another game that kind of impressed me was beating John Tyler 27-3 but they've not unleash RB K. Hunter much. Another game (The best one for Plano East) which was against #10 Allen in a very impressive game. I still give them credit because it was a great game for both teams.

Now Owlfan 1, does that give you enough information? (I assume most of them you don't know about Plano East). I guess I don't know much about Plano East. Is that right? ;)

Edit: Maybe Hall of Famer may not know all about this but All-Galaxy Poster could. I am not a Hall of Famer but I still know about teams.

Dallas Bush did not play against Rockwall. If he is back next week, East will have 3 very good options to run.

[PaulinPlano]

welll i know that dallas molina had no defense..but it did enable lee to get into a rhythm which they havent been able to do all yr on offense.....i have no doubt that lee's defense will be there....and i also see the offense starting to be better this wk....i think its going to work out well for lee this yr..i can see them going a few more rounds........with the offense getting better every wk


prediction


Lee 31

Pesh 17

Boy... that is a HOMER prediction there buddy...:rolleyes:

[PaulinPlano]

How does Lee throw the ball? If Lee has a passing game, it will be a good game. Plano East is very good against the run, and good against the pass, but not quite as good. They have a ton of speed on defense so they don't give up the big TD play.

Looks like another all day event at Texas Stadium. SLC and ET play before us so looks like a double header!:D

[texasboy]

lol hahaha i am from lufkin so you know i have to go with tyler lee on this one the east texas team.. lee will have a hand full but i want them to win this round and the next to play against the pack and have a east texas showdown

[REL-76]

How does Lee throw the ball? If Lee has a passing game, it will be a good game. Plano East is very good against the run, and good against the pass, but not quite as good. They have a ton of speed on defense so they don't give up the big TD play.

Looks like another all day event at Texas Stadium. SLC and ET play before us so looks like a double header!:D

Lee likes to run the ball...but Lee can be good in the air...they have a 6'4" 225 lbs D1 receiver and about 3 other real good receivers as well...

[planoball34]

From what I read here the stats seem to have a slight favor to East. T Lee does have that east Texas swagger though and I know will bring their best against us.
I don't know how Bush is this week as I am surprised he has not made it back to at least be able to play some downs. Slater has a calf injury from the Plano game and has not had his "passing gear" since then. Hopefully he is all the way back next week. When he has that gear once he hits a hole you can wave good-bye. We also had a DE and a CB out last week so the defense has to adjust some more and regain it's strength.
I know Small eventually came on in the second half but I question why Emens was not mixed in some during the knocking the rust out in the first half. Emens strength is throwing and I thought he deserved some downs.

I predict if East comes out with a more healthy team and plays to their true ability they will surprise TL and give them more than they came to bargain for!!

I'm going homer and say East 24 TLee 17.
Go East !!!! :D

[texasboy]

i didnt think lee would beat rockwall but they did and i surely didnt think a&M would be beaten by anyone other then lufkin in playoffs but they lost too

[PaulinPlano]

Lee likes to run the ball...but Lee can be good in the air...they have a 6'4" 225 lbs D1 receiver and about 3 other real good receivers as well...

But do they have a QB who can throw or does he depend on the receiver to make a play?

[PaulinPlano]

From what I read here the stats seem to have a slight favor to East. T Lee does have that east Texas swagger though and I know will bring their best against us.
I don't know how Bush is this week as I am surprised he has not made it back to at least be able to play some downs. Slater has a calf injury from the Plano game and has not had his "passing gear" since then. Hopefully he is all the way back next week. When he has that gear once he hits a hole you can wave good-bye. We also had a DE and a CB out last week so the defense has to adjust some more and regain it's strength.
I know Small eventually came on in the second half but I question why Emens was not mixed in some during the knocking the rust out in the first half. Emens strength is throwing and I thought he deserved some downs.

I predict if East comes out with a more healthy team and plays to their true ability they will surprise TL and give them more than they came to bargain for!!

I'm going homer and say East 24 TLee 17.
Go East !!!! :D

Smalls give East the running threat Emens does not. And Smalls throws as good or better than Emens right now. He made some great passes Saturday that the Yellow Jacket faithful witnessed. Playing the whole game got Smalls back into the groove and gave East the best chance to win. East has a very good chance to go deep with him back!!!

We will not have our shutdown corner again this week. And I am not sure about the DE. But this team is very deep, and that is what you need in the playoffs.

[REL-76]

But do they have a QB who can throw or does he depend on the receiver to make a play?

I think his rating is around 50...in most cases if it's a game we pass a lot in...then he gets better as the game goes on...but he does have 2 great receivers that can make the play...he's also a good scrambler and can throw on the run...but Lee will try to run the ball 65 percent of the time...but heck you never know what coach Owens will do...we may come out in a spread and air it out for 10 plays...

How is East pass rush? Who is the sack leader and how many?

[REL-76]

Plano Fan posted this from another site...interesting points he has...

"Let's have a little perspective here..

Tyler Lee has scored over 30 points twice - against Molina and Kimball. These two teams are ranked #463 and #233 respectively.

Tyler Lee has scored over 20 points four times - against Tyler John Tyler (23 points) (#78), against Waco (21 points) (#20), Against Abilene (21 points) (#73) and Lake Highlands (28 points) (#109)

Tyler Lee has scored between 10 and 20 points five times - 14 to Mesquite, 17 to North Mesquite, 10 to Longview, 10 to Mesquite Horn, and 19 to Euless Trinity.

So, if Tyler Lee scores more than 20, I think that would be a massive surprise.

The most East has given up is 24 points, and that was to Garland and Rockwall - two prolific offenses. (#68 and #25 in the state) - they also gave up some points to Plano West, which boasts the 8th best offense in the state.

Now - Tyler Lee has the 151st best offense in Texas. Other teams East has played in the similar offensive range:

Lake Highlands had the 133rd (0 points)
Plano had the 308th offense (7 points)
Wylie had the 77th offense (0 points)
John Tyler had the 47th rated offense (3 points)
Richardson had the 204th rated offense (0 points)
Berkner had the 81st rated offense (14 points)

So, I think Tyler Lee will score 10 points on East - what will East score on Tyler Lee?

Our LOWEST output this year was 17 against Allen.

So if we have our worst offensive game of the year and our average defensive ability - the score will be 17-10.

I think it will be closer to 21-10"

[big red & cujo]

i didnt think lee would beat rockwall but they did and i surely didnt think a&M would be beaten by anyone other then lufkin in playoffs but they lost too
lee did not beat rockwall. plano east beat them 31-24. lee played dallas malina in the first round and won 42-7.

[big red & cujo]

Plano Fan posted this from another site...interesting points he has...

"Let's have a little perspective here..

Tyler Lee has scored over 30 points twice - against Molina and Kimball. These two teams are ranked #463 and #233 respectively.

Tyler Lee has scored over 20 points four times - against Tyler John Tyler (23 points) (#78), against Waco (21 points) (#20), Against Abilene (21 points) (#73) and Lake Highlands (28 points) (#109)

Tyler Lee has scored between 10 and 20 points five times - 14 to Mesquite, 17 to North Mesquite, 10 to Longview, 10 to Mesquite Horn, and 19 to Euless Trinity.

So, if Tyler Lee scores more than 20, I think that would be a massive surprise.

The most East has given up is 24 points, and that was to Garland and Rockwall - two prolific offenses. (#68 and #25 in the state) - they also gave up some points to Plano West, which boasts the 8th best offense in the state.

Now - Tyler Lee has the 151st best offense in Texas. Other teams East has played in the similar offensive range:

Lake Highlands had the 133rd (0 points)
Plano had the 308th offense (7 points)
Wylie had the 77th offense (0 points)
John Tyler had the 47th rated offense (3 points)
Richardson had the 204th rated offense (0 points)
Berkner had the 81st rated offense (14 points)

So, I think Tyler Lee will score 10 points on East - what will East score on Tyler Lee?

Our LOWEST output this year was 17 against Allen.

So if we have our worst offensive game of the year and our average defensive ability - the score will be 17-10.

I think it will be closer to 21-10"
well have east played any ranked teams this year and almost beat them. tyler almost and should have beat trinity. they was cerian things that transpired and changed the outcome of the game.if you think you beat lee by 11,then you need to leave this comparing our stats to other teams alone. cause they are not tyler lee. this goes out to the guy that origanly posted this crap.lee defense is a monster even when the back ups are in. but then again it depends on which lee team shows up. if we turn the ball over a bunch of times then yes you may get lucky to beat us by that much as longview did. we could very well just have 10 points.

[REL-76]

well have east played any ranked teams this year and almopst beat them. tyler almost and should have beat trinity. they was cerian things that transpired and changed the outcome of the game.if you think you beat lee by 11,then you need to leave this comparing our stats to other teams alone. cause they are not tyler lee. this goes out to the guy that origanly posted this crap.lee defense is a monster even when the back ups are in. but then again it depends on which lee team shows up. if we turn the ball over a bunch of times then yes you may get lucky to beat us by that much as longview did. we could very well just have 10 points.

I think one thing that poster didn't account for is Lee's D...we will see how this plays out...

[PaulinPlano]

I think his rating is around 50...in most cases if it's a game we pass a lot in...then he gets better as the game goes on...but he does have 2 great receivers that can make the play...he's also a good scrambler and can throw on the run...but Lee will try to run the ball 65 percent of the time...but heck you never know what coach Owens will do...we may come out in a spread and air it out for 10 plays...

How is East pass rush? Who is the sack leader and how many?

I don't have stats for the team but they do put pressure on the QB. Marcus Jackson will need to be able to throw and keep the defense honest. If all you try to do is run, East will slow you down and eventually stop you. Mathis (Rockwall) ran on us well because we did not stay home at times. But we finally bottled him up when we had to. He was a SPEED DEMON!

[REL-76]

I don't have stats for the team but they do put pressure on the QB. Marcus Jackson will need to be able to throw and keep the defense honest. If all you try to do is run, East will slow you down and eventually stop you. Mathis (Rockwall) ran on us well because we did not stay home at times. But we finally bottled him up when we had to. He was a SPEED DEMON!

Lee loves to run...and Lee has been shut down on their running game many times...but they went to the air and did fine...

[ASH1157]

Wow...incredible how the opinions (as I write this) are split down the middle.

I think Plano East has a lot more going for it offensively now than it probably did the last few weeks of the regular season. It sure seemed as though the return of the starting QB helped them in their win against Rockwall this week.

I think Plano East will win the game. They gained a big boost in confidence by beating Rockwall very solidly.

[planoball34]

well have east played any ranked teams this year and almost beat them. tyler almost and should have beat trinity. they was cerian things that transpired and changed the outcome of the game.if you think you beat lee by 11,then you need to leave this comparing our stats to other teams alone. cause they are not tyler lee. this goes out to the guy that origanly posted this crap.lee defense is a monster even when the back ups are in. but then again it depends on which lee team shows up. if we turn the ball over a bunch of times then yes you may get lucky to beat us by that much as longview did. we could very well just have 10 points.


East beat a highly ranked Garland team in week 2 and region 9-5A is pretty tough in itself.
The poster of this analysis is simply comparing offensive ranks and scores and in no way incinuates that T Lee has a bad defense, he is just stating common threads on performance and those show the resulting prediction of 17 to 10.

We shall see how their defense is and if they even get to use a back up on Saturday then let me know how they did.:D

[bigdaddydog]

Wow...incredible how the opinions (as I write this) are split down the middle.

I think Plano East has a lot more going for it offensively now than it probably did the last few weeks of the regular season. It sure seemed as though the return of the starting QB helped them in their win against Rockwall this week.

I think Plano East will win the game. They gained a big boost in confidence by beating Rockwall very solidly.

You hit the nail on the head. With Rikko back he was able to get through the jitters and get the reps he needs to build his confidence and the rest of the team should feed off of that.

Tyler had better bring their A+ game this time because Plano East has shown all year that they can keep the pressure on O & D for all four quarters.

9-5A all the Way!! We want you all to have that district rematch.

Plano East - 22
Tyler Lee - 17

Gotta leave room for the Safety, cause you know how I luv em'!!! :D

[ASH1157]

Gotta leave room for the Safety, cause you know how I luv em'!!! :D

The Safety that coulda, shoulda been a touchdown if that ball hadn't been overinflated. HA! (I never knew until I saw the highlight film on DFW Game of the Week how close it was to a TD).

[MPsupreme]

WOW I went to the PESH/Rockwall game and the sea of Orange fans was AWESOME and ya'll are some very friendly folks, I really wish Rockwall wouldve won b cause there were 3 times the amount of fans on their side also that little bitty RB #1 is FREAKIN fast!!!, but nice TD pass from the PESH QB and good D for PESH in the 2nd half deserves the win!!!

Good Luck PESH you got my vote!!!

[big red & cujo fan]

I think one thing that poster didn't account for is Lee's D...we will see how this plays out...:D yes nothin about big red's defense.they will find out though.

[big red & cujo fan]

well have east played any ranked teams this year and almost beat them. tyler almost and should have beat trinity. they was cerian things that transpired and changed the outcome of the game.if you think you beat lee by 11,then you need to leave this comparing our stats to other teams alone. cause they are not tyler lee. this goes out to the guy that origanly posted this crap.lee defense is a monster even when the back ups are in. but then again it depends on which lee team shows up. if we turn the ball over a bunch of times then yes you may get lucky to beat us by that much as longview did. we could very well just have 10 points.
yes they played garland and beat them 31-24. that was a big momentum win for them. they went on a long streak after that.

[mboys4lp]

Well, I have to bet on the good old East Texas team...tyler Lee it will be. Good luck from a Lufkinite who used to love when we played y'all....."old days, good times I'll remember..":

[PaulinPlano]

WOW I went to the PESH/Rockwall game and the sea of Orange fans was AWESOME and ya'll are some very friendly folks, I really wish Rockwall wouldve won b cause there were 3 times the amount of fans on their side also that little bitty RB #1 is FREAKIN fast!!!, but nice TD pass from the PESH QB and good D for PESH in the 2nd half deserves the win!!!

Good Luck PESH you got my vote!!!

Rockwall did have more fans... about 5-6K to East's 4K.

That is hardly 3 times as many.

[PESHfan]

How does Lee throw the ball? If Lee has a passing game, it will be a good game. Plano East is very good against the run, and good against the pass, but not quite as good. They have a ton of speed on defense so they don't give up the big TD play.

Looks like another all day event at Texas Stadium. SLC and ET play before us so looks like a double header!:D

Hate to burst your bubble, but ET and SLC are playing on Friday, not Saturday.

Berkner and Carter have the Saturday 1:00 play time right before us. I sure would love to watch the ET/SLC game, but I don't think I can convince anyone else to go to TS two days in a row.

[PlanoTexan]

I'll be at Texas Stadium for 7 games this weekend.

[big red & cujo fan]

Hate to burst your bubble, but ET and SLC are playing on Friday, not Saturday.

Berkner and Carter have the Saturday 1:00 play time right before us. I sure would love to watch the ET/SLC game, but I don't think I can convince anyone else to go to TS two days in a row.
i was thinking about going two days in a row from tyler but i may just stay that friday night . i plan on being at the slc vs trinity game.

[PESHfan]

i was thinking about going two days in a row from tyler but i may just stay that friday night . i plan on being at the slc vs trinity game.

That SLC/ET game should be a lot of fun. Kind of like a mini-super bowl. Wish I could be there for that game as well. You might as well spend the night in D. The gas money to go back home will just about pay for a hotel.

[REL-76]

Some news on the 4 Lee D starters that have been out…looks like 3 of the 4 will be back and possibly all of them…don’t know if they will be completely healed or not…I hope Cuba is back and close to 100 percent…if not Lee may have to use a 5 man front instead of the 4-2-5 or 3-4…Lee has a pretty good D line with David Lewis, Mario Trimble and DeMichael Jackson...all those three guys are 300-pounders who can run…and we have two pretty good defensive ends as well…
As for East…will the RB Bush be back? Also how’s RB Slater’s ankle? Does East use any more RB’s ? Is East predominantly a passing team…or run…or are they balanced?

[Kingwolf]

the more I read, the more I am convinced that some are downplaying TL...let me assure you, that they have an excellent team...so if PESH doesn't brings its A game then you guys will be talking about b-ball next week....

I still say that TL wins this one...if their offense gets on track, then the only team that will stop them will be Lufkin...:eek:

[big red & cujo]

I still say that TL wins this one...if their offense gets on track, then the only team that will stop them will be Lufkin...:eek:
ha ha !!! are you sure about them? (lufkin) ;) if our offense gets goin ,then son not even lufkin will stand in our way.

[PaulinPlano]

Hate to burst your bubble, but ET and SLC are playing on Friday, not Saturday.

Berkner and Carter have the Saturday 1:00 play time right before us. I sure would love to watch the ET/SLC game, but I don't think I can convince anyone else to go to TS two days in a row.

I figured that out a little later... Berkner / Carter it is... won't be making the trip Friday.

[PaulinPlano]

i was thinking about going two days in a row from tyler but i may just stay that friday night . i plan on being at the slc vs trinity game.


That SLC/ET game should be a lot of fun. Kind of like a mini-super bowl. Wish I could be there for that game as well. You might as well spend the night in D. The gas money to go back home will just about pay for a hotel.

Priceline! I bet you could get a very good room for $50 if you do the blind bid on Priceline. I always use priceline for golf trips / guy trips or when I want to save money. Look up the rack rate of hotels in the area on-line and then bid about 60% of the price. Note that you only get one shot at a bid every 5 days for each class of hotel.

I once stayed at a 4 star hotel on the Chicago River one street over from Michigan Ave. for $100 a night! Now that is a deal.

[SGP 06 Alumni]

wow....the poll on this game is DEAD EVEN!!!!:eek:

Seems like this game could very well be game of the week in D2.

[big red & cujo]

Priceline! I bet you could get a very good room for $50 if you do the blind bid on Priceline. I always use priceline for golf trips / guy trips or when I want to save money. Look up the rack rate of hotels in the area on-line and then bid about 60% of the price. Note that you only get one shot at a bid every 5 days for each class of hotel.

I once stayed at a 4 star hotel on the Chicago River one street over from Michigan Ave. for $100 a night! Now that is a deal.
ok thanks for the info man. i was thinking about what site to go bid for a good price on to.

[big red & cujo]

wow....the poll on this game is DEAD EVEN!!!!:eek:

Seems like this game could very well be game of the week in D2.
no this is a d-1 game. region 2

[REL-76]

Will the RB Bush be back?

How’s RB Slater’s ankle?

Is East predominantly a passing team?…or run?…or are they balanced?

It appears they are more of a running team....anybody have any info?

[c-lisle]

saw some discussion on another board about PESH:

"I coached against them this year. They will formation you to death and they run a lot of misdirection. Stay at home and stay away from #11 (Keenan Robinson), arguably the best LB in the nation. You can catch them off guard if you run a hurry-up offense. They signal in their defense and take a long time getting lined up. We lost to them by five during the regular season and should have beaten them. They aren't as good against the pass as they are against the run. The QB is very athletic but doesn't like to roll out left. Good luck!"

[REL-76]

saw some discussion on another board about PESH:

"I coached against them this year. They will formation you to death and they run a lot of misdirection. Stay at home and stay away from #11 (Keenan Robinson), arguably the best LB in the nation. You can catch them off guard if you run a hurry-up offense. They signal in their defense and take a long time getting lined up. We lost to them by five during the regular season and should have beaten them. They aren't as good against the pass as they are against the run. The QB is very athletic but doesn't like to roll out left. Good luck!"

Thanks for the info c-lisle...I heard about Robinson...he will have his share of big plays I'm sure...according to DMN stats page East runs the ball 63 percent of the time...and RB Slater has scored most of the points...not sure if that page is up to date...

[c-lisle]

Thanks for the info c-lisle...I heard about Robinson...he will have his share of big plays I'm sure...according to DMN stats page East runs the ball 63 percent of the time...and RB Slater has scored most of the points...not sure if that page is up to date...


no problem......whoever that was he at least appears to know what he is talking about. I am rooting for you guys all the way and will be there to see you saturday. You have a great D and I think that could win you this game.

[REL-76]

no problem......whoever that was he at least appears to know what he is talking about. I am rooting for you guys all the way and will be there to see you saturday. You have a great D and I think that could win you this game.

I'll be rooting for the Lobos as well...can't make the Lee or Lobo game but I will tune it in on the internet or radio...I hope the Lee D is healthy…we are a little banged up but the backups have stepped in pretty good…

How is your player Lacy…(can’t remember his number)…is he still making amazing plays? That guy is a football player…he just makes thinks happen…

[c-lisle]

I'll be rooting for the Lobos as well...can't make the Lee or Lobo game but I will tune it in on the internet or radio...I hope the Lee D is healthy…we are a little banged up but the backups have stepped in pretty good…

How is your player Lacy…(can’t remember his number)…is he still making amazing plays? That guy is a football player…he just makes thinks happen…


he is doing well. he has had an ankle injury of late but i think he is ok. In the horn game he had two INTs one returned for a TD. No doubt that guy is a playmaker.

[Gazelle]

East's 2 losses this year were due to a missed, last play 31 yard FG (and a -4 TO ratio) to Mesquite and an end zone deflection of an under thrown fade (into a 40 mph wind) on 4th and goal @ 1:50 left in the Allen game. The closest anyone else got to beating East was Plano West (21-15), and East missed 4 FGs in the game. Missing FGs is a common occurance. Garland was down 31-3 at half, and IMO East slacked off in the second half, but rose up on a great defensive stop in Q4 to get the win. The games they won, they should have won, and the games they lost were close, but they should have lost.
East is very explosive, as greater than 50% of their TDs have been 30+ yards, and 5 players have TDs > 50 yards.
Defensively, they are very fast and like to hit, but K-Rob LOVES to hit. Against run oriented teams, East will play alot of 4-3. Rockwall had a small speedy RB that gave them fits early. When East shifted to the 4-3, that stopped. As impressive as their RB was, I was equally impressed that FS Colin Zych ran him down on a bad angle and limited a 70 yard TD to 58 yards. The 3 Rockwall TDs were on very well executed and concieved plays. After being behind 17-3, East settled down and outscored Rockwall 28-7 in the second half and controlled that half.
Athletically, East had the best athletes all year long. TOs, missed FGs and poor coaching decisions have been their problem.

[big red & cujo]

East's 2 losses this year were due to a missed, last play 31 yard FG (and a -4 TO ratio) to Mesquite and an end zone deflection of an under thrown fade (into a 40 mph wind) on 4th and goal @ 1:50 left in the Allen game. The closest anyone else got to beating East was Plano West (21-15), and East missed 4 FGs in the game. Missing FGs is a common occurance. Garland was down 31-3 at half, and IMO East slacked off in the second half, but rose up on a great defensive stop in Q4 to get the win. The games they won, they should have won, and the games they lost were close, but they should have lost.
East is very explosive, as greater than 50% of their TDs have been 30+ yards, and 5 players have TDs > 50 yards.
Defensively, they are very fast and like to hit, but K-Rob LOVES to hit. Against run oriented teams, East will play alot of 4-3. Rockwall had a small speedy RB that gave them fits early. When East shifted to the 4-3, that stopped. As impressive as their RB was, I was equally impressed that FS Colin Zych ran him down on a bad angle and limited a 70 yard TD to 58 yards. The 3 Rockwall TDs were on very well executed and concieved plays. After being behind 17-3, East settled down and outscored Rockwall 28-7 in the second half and controlled that half.
Athletically, East had the best athletes all year long. TOs, missed FGs and poor coaching decisions have been their problem.
well sounds like if we can keep them fromgetting in the endzone and holding them to fg attempts we have a great chance of winning.if all the missed fg's are true.

[PaulinPlano]

East's 2 losses this year were due to a missed, last play 31 yard FG (and a -4 TO ratio) to Mesquite and an end zone deflection of an under thrown fade (into a 40 mph wind) on 4th and goal @ 1:50 left in the Allen game. The closest anyone else got to beating East was Plano West (21-15), and East missed 4 FGs in the game. Missing FGs is a common occurance. Garland was down 31-3 at half, and IMO East slacked off in the second half, but rose up on a great defensive stop in Q4 to get the win. The games they won, they should have won, and the games they lost were close, but they should have lost.
East is very explosive, as greater than 50% of their TDs have been 30+ yards, and 5 players have TDs > 50 yards.
Defensively, they are very fast and like to hit, but K-Rob LOVES to hit. Against run oriented teams, East will play alot of 4-3. Rockwall had a small speedy RB that gave them fits early. When East shifted to the 4-3, that stopped. As impressive as their RB was, I was equally impressed that FS Colin Zych ran him down on a bad angle and limited a 70 yard TD to 58 yards. The 3 Rockwall TDs were on very well executed and concieved plays. After being behind 17-3, East settled down and outscored Rockwall 28-7 in the second half and controlled that half.
Athletically, East had the best athletes all year long. TOs, missed FGs and poor coaching decisions have been their problem.

That is very good assessment. But you did not mention that 2 of Plano East's key defenders and power runner Bush were out of the game against Allen and Rockwall. And the first start for the backup QB was against Plano West. Starting QB came back against Rockwall. But I think they played very well which is a testament to their depth.

[bigdaddydog]

East's 2 losses this year were due to a missed, last play 31 yard FG (and a -4 TO ratio) to Mesquite and an end zone deflection of an under thrown fade (into a 40 mph wind) on 4th and goal @ 1:50 left in the Allen game. The closest anyone else got to beating East was Plano West (21-15), and East missed 4 FGs in the game. Missing FGs is a common occurance. Garland was down 31-3 at half, and IMO East slacked off in the second half, but rose up on a great defensive stop in Q4 to get the win. The games they won, they should have won, and the games they lost were close, but they should have lost.
East is very explosive, as greater than 50% of their TDs have been 30+ yards, and 5 players have TDs > 50 yards.
Defensively, they are very fast and like to hit, but K-Rob LOVES to hit. Against run oriented teams, East will play alot of 4-3. Rockwall had a small speedy RB that gave them fits early. When East shifted to the 4-3, that stopped. As impressive as their RB was, I was equally impressed that FS Colin Zych ran him down on a bad angle and limited a 70 yard TD to 58 yards. The 3 Rockwall TDs were on very well executed and concieved plays. After being behind 17-3, East settled down and outscored Rockwall 28-7 in the second half and controlled that half.
Athletically, East had the best athletes all year long. TOs, missed FGs and poor coaching decisions have been their problem.

I've gotta take exception to your analysis. The 4th down pass against Allen was not under thrown, it was a perfect pass and it just happened to be a perfect pass defense for the deflection. The previous 3rd down play was definitely under thrown and could have easily been a touch down.

I give you props for ultimately owning up to the losses.

The Allen game was very very close. The turnovers I think were more a credit to the Allen defense as to any weakness of the PESH offense. The PESH QB was under great pressure and the appropriate adjustmenst were made to focus more on the pass than the run. I think that Allen did a commendable job of running against the PESH defense to ultimately set up the pass.

I give the Tyler Lee Defense a good chance at putting the same or even more pressure on the PESH offense. If TL can muster some key blocking for the run and throttle up the passing game I think they can take the game.

That is very good assessment. But you did not mention that 2 of Plano East's key defenders and power runner Bush were out of the game against Allen and Rockwall. And the first start for the backup QB was against Plano West. Starting QB came back against Rockwall. But I think they played very well which is a testament to their depth.

So Rikko is back but what about Bush? And what about the two key defenders you mention? Are they going to be back? If the D players aren't going to be back then your point is moot.

If the Tyler Lee Defense lives up to the East Texas hype, then I think it matters a bit less that Rikko is back. The only thing I think will save PESH is to continue to have success on the quick pass routes. I think you are going to have to work really hard to get any long pass opportunities.

Good Luck to PESH. I really really want you guys to win.

9-5A ALL THE WAY!!!

[Gazelle]

From my angle in the Allen stadium (PESH side, PESH 45), the 4th down pass appeared to be under thrown, and the fade looked open in the back corner. My mistake.

Allen was very large in both from lines, esp. Offense and #69. A good reason Dick posted 0 ints this year. They also committed 8 defensive players to the run and to get to Emens. PESH had several deep receivers open but the defense pressured the QB resulting in failed attempts. I don't know if that was Allen's standard defensive package, but it was a very good scheme and took PESH out of their offensive game.

I don't think Dallas up for the game, but he might be in uniform, which will be an upgrade from last Sat.

[ASH1157]

One thing that might be working in Plano East's favor (or perhaps against it)...they're facing their 3rd tough game in a row. They may be used to the pressure by now and won't be fazed if they don't come out blazing.

I think this will be their toughest test yet, even though I know nothing about Tyler Lee. I want to see what kind of mental stamina East has.

[WildcatFan]

As a Wildcat Fan but more importaintly as a Plano resident, I am officially on the Panther Bandwagon.

Make us proud boys!

Good Luck and GO EAST!

[bigdaddydog]

From my angle in the Allen stadium (PESH side, PESH 45), the 4th down pass appeared to be under thrown, and the fade looked open in the back corner. My mistake.

Allen was very large in both from lines, esp. Offense and #69. A good reason Dick posted 0 ints this year. They also committed 8 defensive players to the run and to get to Emens. PESH had several deep receivers open but the defense pressured the QB resulting in failed attempts. I don't know if that was Allen's standard defensive package, but it was a very good scheme and took PESH out of their offensive game.

I don't think Dallas up for the game, but he might be in uniform, which will be an upgrade from last Sat.

That 4th down was right in the corner in front of where I was sitting.

I know you guys probably don't want to relive it but the Gridiron Films guys do a great job and they have the game as the Last DFW Game of the week.

Also check out their Road to San Antonio. Nice Job Guys!

http://www.dfwgameoftheweek.com/

GO PESH!!
GO ALLEN!!!

9-5A ALL THE WAY!!!

[c-lisle]

is Trevious the big lineman for Lee healthy again.??.....i heard he was out for the year but then he was interviewed by Smoaky after the Molina game.

[smoaky]

Trevius Jones hasn't played in several weeks, and will not play again this season.

He is one of the top-rated juniors...he's a good one.

Our radio broadcast on KTBB will also be heard at Texas Stadium, at a frequency to be announced before the game by the PA announcer.

Smoaky

[big red & cujo]

yes trevious was one of the key strengths to that o-line. it hurt when he went down,but we have good depth on the o-line. the beautiful thing of it all is,they are mostly just juniors including trevious jones and will be back next year.so that o-line at least on paper will be explosive. as good as the defense is this year the offense should be just as deadly in 07. i know this season is not over with to be talkin about 07 . i just wanted to give info and express my opinions. good luck big red.

[East Area]

Someone earlier mentioned the kicking game and believe it or not East's primary field goal kicker the past games Chad Powell is out of town on Thanksgiving so Hammel will be kicking althought I watched practice today and he made two 52 yarders with distance for 57

As far as Bush is concerned pretty sure that he will be back and playing again this week

As for one of our two "shut down corners" he got shut down by his teacher who failed him with a 69 so im not sure if he can play this week

Also someone asked what East's offense was like in the offseason before this year all of the offensive coaches went to West Virginia for a few days and the East offense is pretty much a smaller version of that if anyone has any WV tapes lying around you could check it out

[PaulinPlano]

Someone earlier mentioned the kicking game and believe it or not East's primary field goal kicker the past games Chad Powell is out of town on Thanksgiving so Hammel will be kicking althought I watched practice today and he made two 52 yarders with distance for 57

As far as Bush is concerned pretty sure that he will be back and playing again this week

As for one of our two "shut down corners" he got shut down by his teacher who failed him with a 69 so im not sure if he can play this week

Also someone asked what East's offense was like in the offseason before this year all of the offensive coaches went to West Virginia for a few days and the East offense is pretty much a smaller version of that if anyone has any WV tapes lying around you could check it out

Wow... I know his parents... I saw his mother at TS last week. This surprises me.

[East Area]

could be wrong he might be back for the game but all i know is that he didnt practice any this week and im pretty sure that means hes not playing

[Red Raiders]

Come on, this need to hurry up for game tomorrow, this is going to be a great game. Saw that there will be Garland or some other from Dallas officials will be the ref game and its not good news for us. :mad: I don't know if its to true or try to scare us. Anyways, the poll looking good with a very close votes. :)

[ASH1157]

I've gone round and round all week, trying to decide who I think will win the game. I finally have something to sway me the way of the Plano East Panthers....the fact that Tyler Lee had a close game against Mesquite in its final game of the year.

Plano East 28
Tyler Lee 14

[Red Raiders]

I've gone round and round all week, trying to decide who I think will win the game. I finally have something to sway me the way of the Plano East Panthers....the fact that Tyler Lee had a close game against Mesquite in its final game of the year.

Plano East 28
Tyler Lee 14

And Mesquite beat Plano East by 1 in beginning of the season, whats your point?

[ASH1157]

And Mesquite beat Plano East by 1 in beginning of the season, whats your point?

Beggin' your pardon, but I believe Plano East's 5 turnovers in that game beat Plano East that day. :rolleyes:

But, yeah...I do agree with your implied remark...scores of other games don't determine scores of games to come.

Personally, I don't have a vested interest in either team. I know about Plano East as they are 9-5A opponents of Allen (whom I do have a vested interest in). So, don't get worked up over one person's lowly opinion. It's all good if Tyler Lee wins tomorrow. :)

[Red Raiders]

Beggin' your pardon, but I believe Plano East's 5 turnovers in that game beat Plano East that day. :rolleyes:

But, yeah...I do agree with your implied remark...scores of other games don't determine scores of games to come.

Personally, I don't have a vested interest in either team. I know about Plano East as they are 9-5A opponents of Allen (whom I do have a vested interest in). So, don't get worked up over one person's lowly opinion. It's all good if Tyler Lee wins tomorrow. :)

Yes, I knew you would say that scores don't matter much like I said many times before because every game is different and Plano East having 5 turnovers can make a difference. Beginning of the season and End of the season really makes a difference in certain teams. The reason why I say Mesquite by 1 to you is because you said that we beat Mesquite by 5 points. Tommorrow game will be different. :)

[PaulinPlano]

Beggin' your pardon, but I believe Plano East's 5 turnovers in that game beat Plano East that day. :rolleyes:

But, yeah...I do agree with your implied remark...scores of other games don't determine scores of games to come.

Personally, I don't have a vested interest in either team. I know about Plano East as they are 9-5A opponents of Allen (whom I do have a vested interest in). So, don't get worked up over one person's lowly opinion. It's all good if Tyler Lee wins tomorrow. :)


Yes, I knew you would say that scores don't matter much like I said many times before because every game is different and Plano East having 5 turnovers can make a difference. Beginning of the season and End of the season really makes a difference in certain teams. The reason why I say Mesquite by 1 to you is because you said that we beat Mesquite by 5 points. Tommorrow game will be different. :)

Actually... 7 turnovers... and a missed FG at the end.:mad:

[eastvarsity07]

Come on, this need to hurry up for game tomorrow, this is going to be a great game. Saw that there will be Garland or some other from Dallas officials will be the ref game and its not good news for us. :mad: I don't know if its to true or try to scare us. Anyways, the poll looking good with a very close votes. :)

Wahh, do I already hear excuses? Someone must finally be coming around to the fact that East will win this game.

Oh, and I thought it was 8 turnovers against Mesquite with the missed FG. Whatever it was, it was way too many.

[PaulinPlano]

Wahh, do I already hear excuses? Someone must finally be coming around to the fact that East will win this game.

Oh, and I thought it was 8 turnovers against Mesquite with the missed FG. Whatever it was, it was way too many.

I think your right... it was 8.

[PaulinPlano]

time to head to TS


GO EAST

[eastvarsity07]

Come on, this need to hurry up for game tomorrow, this is going to be a great game. Saw that there will be Garland or some other from Dallas officials will be the ref game and its not good news for us. :mad: I don't know if its to true or try to scare us. Anyways, the poll looking good with a very close votes. :)

Nice BS non pass interference calls in late 4th, then nice no call on roughing the kicker... Those refs really gave us the game thank god!! Oh, and way to go to Tyler Lee for handing it to us (good prediction). We gave you every chance along with the officials, still couldnt win.

P.S. We choked hard, but at least we knew the heimlich

[Gazelle]

IMO, East didn't choke. They continue to play to the level of the competition, especially if they get an early lead. Lee made it exciting, but East rose up again to take the win.

[bigdaddydog]

Plano East - 22
Tyler Lee - 17

Gotta leave room for the Safety, cause you know how I luv em'!!! :D

Plano East - 21
Tyler Lee - 18

OK, so my luv for safetys was my downfall. For my closest game prediction prize, I would like a win against Round Rock next Saturday! :D

Nice game PESH!! I hear you are going to play Spring Westfield at Round Rock next Saturday at 1:00pm. Good Luck!!!

P.S. I hope you went to the game Chase!

9-5A ALL THE WAY

[PaulinPlano]

I will say that I was very pleased with the play calling even right after the half when East went up 21-3. Then we got way too conservative and tried to sit on the lead.:mad: A couple of catches by that 7 foot wideout that Lee has (#18) and they are right back in it. Then the East D has to bail us out again.

Way to stay in it Lee. Very good football team. A lot of fans traveled to support the Red Raiders.

[Red Raiders]

I will say that I was very pleased with the play calling even right after the half when East went up 21-3. Then we got way too conservative and tried to sit on the lead.:mad: A couple of catches by that 7 foot wideout that Lee has (#18) and they are right back in it. Then the East D has to bail us out again.

Way to stay in it Lee. Very good football team. A lot of fans traveled to support the Red Raiders.

We travel anywhere we wanted to like we had more fans then Spring Westfield did in San Antonio for Championship game in 2004 so thats how much we care about football. :)

Anyways, Plano East is really a great team and I congratulate them and Good Luck playing this very tough Spring Westfield.

[East Area]

I have to say i thought East played very well the whole game but i have to give credit where its due

Lee's recievers are amazing they made some sick catches today

However' every long pass was on our back up junior corner if our starter was in there (who i think is among the best corners around) i have a hard time seeing lee scoring as much as they did all of their points came from the long pass the run was completely shut down the whole game

[PaulinPlano]

We travel anywhere we wanted to like we had more fans then Spring Westfield did in San Antonio for Championship game in 2004 so thats how much we care about football. :)

Anyways, Plano East is really a great team and I congratulate them and Good Luck playing this very tough Spring Westfield.

Are you typing this from a hotel in the Dallas area or did you not make the game? If not... you missed a good one.

[Red Raiders]

Are you typing this from a hotel in the Dallas area or did you not make the game? If not... you missed a good one.

I couldn't come and yes I did miss a very good game. :mad: I pretty much know all about it.

[PaulinPlano]

I couldn't come and yes I did miss a very good game. :mad: I pretty much know all about it.

Sorry to hear that. Good luck.

[REL-76]

Congrats to Plano East...good luck against Spring Westfield...