SLC's "standing" O-linemen

[jtk1519]

Can anybody explain why SLC's tackles appear to be standing when they line up for a play. They arent in a typical lineman stance. I thought at first this might be used for pass protection, but they line up like this all the time... even on running plays. Even the guards arent in a typical stance. They are raised a little as well. Is there an advantage to be gained by doing this? I have never seen another team on any level do this, but SLC has done it for several years now.

Here's a pic for those curious as to what I'm talking about.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/jtk1519/Other/SLC.jpg

[rantanamo]

This is very common. Especially on 3rd down in college and the NFL. The Colts do it all the time. I noticed Ennis doing it a lot last year. Just simply pretty common these days in passing spread offenses, especially no huddle ones. No need to get in a 3 point stance when drive blocking simply isn't what is emphasized.

[RidgePride]

Can anybody explain why SLC's tackles appear to be standing when they line up for a play. They arent in a typical lineman stance. I thought at first this might be used for pass protection, but they line up like this all the time... even on running plays. Even the guards arent in a typical stance. They are raised a little as well. Is there an advantage to be gained by doing this? I have never seen another team on any level do this, but SLC has done it for several years now.

Here's a pic for those curious as to what I'm talking about.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/jtk1519/Other/SLC.jpg

Southlake Carroll throws the ball a lot in the spread offense. They are standing for pass protection. The reason they are not in a three point stance for the run is because it would give away the fact that they are going to run. They have to look the same on every play.

All Spread teams have their Lineman up.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Southlake Carroll throws the ball a lot in the spread offense. They are standing for pass protection. The reason they are not in a three point stance for the run is because it would give away the fact that they are going to run. They have to look the same on every play.

All Spread teams have their Lineman up.

Its called a two-point stance, instead of a three-point stance which is common...I played better outta a two-point, you get better movement for pass blocking, i also loved running draws from the two point stance...We ran that when I was a freshmen, too bad back then I only played D-line

[jtk1519]

Southlake Carroll throws the ball a lot in the spread offense. They are standing for pass protection. The reason they are not in a three point stance for the run is because it would give away the fact that they are going to run. They have to look the same on every play.

All Spread teams have their Lineman up.

Not all spread teams do. Abilene Cooper has been running the spread for close to 15 years and our linemen have never lined up like that. Same goes for Abilene High who has been running that offense for a while now. In fact, like I said, SLC is the only team I can recall doing such a thing.

[dada]

Fairly common for pass oriented offenses. two-point stance. Most running teams or balanced teams do it when they go to the Shotgun but it sort of gives the play away and tell the defense you are about to pass.

[ALLIN]

Abilene High does not do it cause they run like 10000 formations, including a tight end many of those times. Fact is, it is done pretty often, and it must be working for SLC

[CoppellCowboy57]

Did they do it last year? ive forgotten by now

[CCHS77]

Did they do it last year? ive forgotten by now


Certainly since '01, but probably since '00, when dodge and staff came to Dragonlake.

[dragonsdaddy]

i think it started in 02, definitely not 00 as we had daniel lc at tight end. doesn't that seem like an eternity ago. can you imagine a te again?

[CCHS77]

i think it started in 02, definitely not 00 as we had daniel lc at tight end. doesn't that seem like an eternity ago. can you imagine a te again?


DD,

Funny you mention TE, as it was JB (in '01) that convinced me that the line did more upright than down. (Inside the 10 was obviously the exception) On the other hand, according to my wife, memory isn't one of my greatest attributes!

'02 it is!

[southlake thug]

Yeah I think it was around there. I really liked the TE. Beniost was dominant back then. I will never foreget that int. returned for a TD that he had.

[dragonsdaddy]

DD,

Funny you mention TE, as it was JB (in '01) that convinced me that the line did more upright than down. (Inside the 10 was obviously the exception) On the other hand, according to my wife, memory isn't one of my greatest attributes!

'02 it is!
jb didn't get in much if at all on the o-side of the ball. seems he had a little of the malady that made our old cowboy buddy proclaim,"there's a reason that some people have to play defense." he didn't catch a pass in my feeble memory, but the fact that they even had a tight end that year makes me think it was 02 and the no-huddle experiment when the 2 pt stance became the norm.

[dragonfootballfan]

in 2001 the two point stance was used in certain situations especially in shotgun or when they ran a play with a pulling gaurd or tackle or both. OT Do you remember the dunbar game? When they went to the no huddle, always in shotgun then they just used the normal shotgun stances. It has worked well because most teams seemed to be using defensive sets to cover all four wide recievers and the runningbacks have been good at reading the holes.

[drgnbkr]

in 2001 the two point stance was used in certain situations especially in shotgun or when they ran a play with a pulling gaurd or tackle or both. OT Do you remember the dunbar game? When they went to the no huddle, always in shotgun then they just used the normal shotgun stances. It has worked well because most teams seemed to be using defensive sets to cover all four wide recievers and the runningbacks have been good at reading the holes.

I remember the Dunbar game well...I would'nt have wanted to be their kicker, who missed the field goal at the end that would have won it for them...that had to be a miserable bus ride home for him!

[dragonsdaddy]

2 pt stances will never be used by power running teams because you can't fire out and open holes. zone/influence blocking is all you can do when starting upright. hence the trouble sometimes noted with scoring from inside the 5.

[drgnbkr]

2 pt stances will never be used by power running teams because you can't fire out and open holes. zone/influence blocking is all you can do when starting upright. hence the trouble sometimes noted with scoring from inside the 5.

I guess it's all good when you score with great regularity from outside the 5...... ;)

[dragonfootballfan]

I guess it's all good when you score with great regularity from outside the 5...... ;)
I bet this week though that the dragons practice their three point stance and under center for goalline situations