View Full Version : 2006 5A Player of the year
THEsouthlakeCARROLL
11-08-2006, 01:35 PM
As pleasing as it may be to think that again, a SLC QB will be the player of the year, is that likely... I don't see it, but who has a shot at be the player of the the year?
CyFallsMom
11-08-2006, 01:37 PM
Sam McGuffie - I assume you are talking about statewide? That would be my choice. My definition of a player of the year is someone who has really helped their team and he has. I'm sure the SLC QB is a great athlete but in a team full of great athletes. Without Sam, Cy Fair would be good but not AS good. He is in a league of his own IMO.
AG8411
11-08-2006, 01:47 PM
for once i agree with mom. mcguffie hands down.
t00 playa
11-08-2006, 01:51 PM
for once i agree with mom. mcguffie hands down.
lol :eek:
CyFallsMom
11-08-2006, 01:53 PM
lol
Hey, it happens:p
KLH75287
11-08-2006, 01:55 PM
There are several athletes who demand attention from opposing coaches, but only a few who have proven next to impossible to shut down.
Sam McGuffie
I'm not aware of another player who has more of an impact than Sam seems to have when he is on the field. I think he is a likely candidate for sure.
svhorns
11-08-2006, 01:57 PM
there are two defensive players in Seguin who could put up an argument
dragonsdaddy
11-08-2006, 02:00 PM
There are several athletes who demand attention from opposing coaches, but only a few who have proven next to impossible to shut down.
Sam McGuffie
I'm not aware of another player who has more of an impact than Sam seems to have when he is on the field. I think he is a likely candidate for sure.
being as how i'm firmly ensconced behind the gated community that is sl, and thus completely cut off from the big, bad world, who is sam mcguffie? i will be surprised, as i was in 03, if an slc qb takes the award again. i do believe that there is no one who would look at any of the last 3 players and their hs stats/performances/outcomes, and argue that any weren't at least worthy of at least consideration.
catman
11-08-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't have any ideas about who it might be. There are many that would qualify. I don't think it will be someone from SLC this year though.
Red Raiders
11-08-2006, 02:04 PM
I would say Southlake Carroll QB's Riley Dodge... He's always had a great game every single game.
LP-79
11-08-2006, 02:11 PM
One word.......DEZ:D
dragonsdaddy
11-08-2006, 02:14 PM
One word.......DEZ:D
that would be an excellent choice, imo. if ever a wr is going to be the opoy, dez has to be it.
CyFallsMom
11-08-2006, 02:15 PM
being as how i'm firmly ensconced behind the gated community that is sl, and thus completely cut off from the big, bad world, who is sam mcguffie?
I'm sure a Cy Fair fan or player could give you a lot more insight than I can but, put your Chablis and Cuban down a second and I'll fill you in on what I know.
Sam is a Junior RB at Cy Fair - he was good last year as well but this year, he has just exploded and against some very good defenses too. He had 220 yards against Cy Falls and that is very impressive. He has had 200+ games all year and last week had a 376 game and went over the 2,000 yard rushing mark. He has a "habit" of hurdling defensive linemen - guys who are over 6 feet tall usually and they are pretty much standing up and he goes untouched. I have seem him do it in 3 games this year and it's still hard to believe. He is SO fast too - he has great balance and the defenses just can't get their hands on him. We had a couple of guys just holding on to his jersey on one play - hoping that he would go down. They know he is getting the ball but he still gets by them - he can stop on a dime and reverse his direction and, as a fan, it makes my head spin!! I used to say Cy Fair was one-dimensional - well, if they are, WHAT a dimension to have:D
WestPlano006
11-08-2006, 02:16 PM
I vote against Riley Dodge because I am tired of hearing nothing but SLC this SLC that like it's the best dynasty in high school football. Nothing shall surpass PLANO of the 70s - 90s!
dragonsdaddy
11-08-2006, 02:20 PM
I vote against Riley Dodge because I am tired of hearing nothing but SLC this SLC that like it's the best dynasty in high school football. Nothing shall surpass PLANO of the 70s - 90s!
pretty shrewd how you vote against someone for something over which they have no control. and btw, why cut out 2 state titles for the cats by not including the 60's? it is one more than the 90's btw.
WestPlano006
11-08-2006, 02:28 PM
Sorry, wasn't thinking there, it was better than I actually stated
FBMom
11-08-2006, 02:51 PM
CyFallsMom hit the nail on the head. You have to see Sam to believe how good he is. The defender Sam leapt last week is 6' tall. He was in a defensive stance and Sam basically hurdled him. (As I stated in another post, I feel bad for our #15 being on that highlight reel for all the years to come! :) )
My vote goes for Sam as well. I know there are other superior athletes out there (current and former), but Sam is different. As long as he stays healthy, we will all be talking about our kids playing with, or against, him "back in the day."
timbo15
11-08-2006, 03:34 PM
Will Cole from Cedar Hill. Leading the dfw area in rushing and scoring (by far) from the quarterback position. There's alot of talent around him, but Cole has been one of the most dominating players in 5-A I can remember in recent memory.
Oiler99
11-08-2006, 03:54 PM
yeah i would have to agree from what ive seen sam mcgruffie may just be that player, also if your looking for players who make their team what they are i would have to throw fozzy whittaker out there as he has racked up 3/4 of all yards and when he was hurt and not on the field we lost and when he was he won. Imo without fozzy pearland would not be in the playoffs. And hes just now heating up after sufferin from that lingering ankle injury, but has almost 900 yds in last three games.
ktchamp97
11-08-2006, 04:10 PM
William Cole will get a great deal of consideration.
He stepped in for injured QB Courtney Roberson (ACL in spring ball) from the beginning of the year and has only done the following:
163 carries for 1,631 yards and 25 rushing TD's
63-106 for 1,100 yards, 11 TD's and 6 INT's passing
(That's 2,631 yards and 36 TD's of total offense!!)
He leads the entire Metroplex by 309 yards rushing...as a QB!
...All the while leading his team to an undefeated record and over 480 yards of offense per game.
svhorns
11-08-2006, 04:14 PM
what about Keenan Robinson out of Plano East.. what do his numbers look like...?
Favpack
11-08-2006, 04:14 PM
How about the qb from Stratford? He has awesome stats doesn't he?
I guess if I mentioned a player from Lufkin it would sound biasedly lame - so I won't.
CyFallsMom
11-08-2006, 04:21 PM
No it wouldn't - mention whomever you want. Andrew Luck over at Stratford could be in that list too - for sure. He is very talented.
catman
11-08-2006, 04:23 PM
I believe the QB Justin Springer from Los Fresnos could be a good choice also.
TXfootball0227
11-08-2006, 04:55 PM
What about Horace Gibson?
SeguinMatadors
11-08-2006, 05:06 PM
there are two defensive players in Seguin who could put up an argument
If Marcus Richardson wouldn't have gotten injured and would have been 100 % in the Westlake game and played these final two games he was on pace to have 170 regular season tackles to go along with some sacks, some forced fumbles,recovered fumbles, and INT's and a blocked punt returned for a touch down. Not sure on the exact stats except the tackles. He will be back by the playoffs and he could be back this week but there is no reason to play him. If we make a playoff run he should recieve consideration for DPOY,IMO.
KLH75287
11-08-2006, 05:38 PM
being as how i'm firmly ensconced behind the gated community that is sl, and thus completely cut off from the big, bad world, who is sam mcguffie? i will be surprised, as i was in 03, if an slc qb takes the award again. i do believe that there is no one who would look at any of the last 3 players and their hs stats/performances/outcomes, and argue that any weren't at least worthy of at least consideration.
Sam on Video....This kid is insane for a Jr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnkttzdNrU
I'm trying not to take the homer route, but Lp has a couple of players, one in particular that is pretty special himself.
bobcatDL07
11-08-2006, 07:30 PM
that one video really isnt all in all representative of McGuffies skill. ive never seen somebody able to run and cut laterally and get back to full speed so quickly. he has an unnatural ability to avoid defenders.. we have literally had 3 tv stations come to our practice field in the past 2 days to see this kid in person.. he is the real deal and only at a junior... his soph. year Nike Combine stats speak for themselves at a 41 inch vertical and a laser timed 40 at 4.34 with a shuttle speed at 3.8... people say his size isnt enough... guys hes only a junior and look at the majority of 4-5 star senior backs in the nation... i see 160-170??? Sam weighs 180 at 5'10 and still has a year and a half plus another summer to improve on that... look out for him next year his athletic ability is gona blow people out of the water. he ran for 270 yards on 12 carries for 5 td's in ONE QUARTER last week :eek: once i get my hands on a better highlight video i will keep yall updated
CedarHillDad
11-08-2006, 08:21 PM
Will Cole from Cedar Hill. Leading the dfw area in rushing and scoring (by far) from the quarterback position. There's alot of talent around him, but Cole has been one of the most dominating players in 5-A I can remember in recent memory.
I second that motion. I have not seen Sam play in person so I can't speak on him, I am sure he is great but Will is electrifying each time he touches the ball.:D
WestlandTiger'95
11-08-2006, 08:32 PM
Sorry, wasn't thinking there, it was better than I actually stated
my vote for most truthful quote of the year!!!
nothing compares to my beatles albums from before i was born!!!! yeah:p
my3sons
11-08-2006, 08:54 PM
pretty shrewd how you vote against someone for something over which they have no control. and btw, why cut out 2 state titles for the cats by not including the 60's? it is one more than the 90's btw.
DDaddy: You need to let that Plano stuff go. You and your boys are Dragons. Stay true to the emerald green! You probably wore your Plano letter-jacket like allthe other Plano alum at the SLC playoff game (won by SLC by the way).:D
dragonsdaddy
11-09-2006, 07:40 AM
DDaddy: You need to let that Plano stuff go. You and your boys are Dragons. Stay true to the emerald green! You probably wore your Plano letter-jacket like allthe other Plano alum at the SLC playoff game (won by SLC by the way).:D
luckily for me i can still get into the old gray jacket. unfortunately the moths have been much more intimate with it than i have. we didn't get in from tailgating until right before the ko, so i never saw the meeting. memories won't ever go away, from either great experiences, i hope.
ourgalsal
11-09-2006, 07:58 AM
Slight edge to Sam over Dodge. You would know it is close if you had ever seen Dodge run and throw.
drgnbkr
11-09-2006, 08:03 AM
Slight edge to Sam over Dodge. You would know it is close if you had ever seen Dodge run and throw.
And both with a year left!
Gangsta3
11-09-2006, 08:54 AM
Will Cole
Quarterback
Cedar Hill High School
I hate Cedar Hill, but anyone who doesn't vote for this kid has to be flat out "special." He is unstoppable.
Sakatha
11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
Will Cole
Quarterback
Cedar Hill High School
I hate Cedar Hill, but anyone who doesn't vote for this kid has to be flat out "special." He is unstoppable.
Unstoppable sometimes gets redefined in the playoffs... But I know that has nothing to do with the thread itself... Best luck to all!
~DnM
timbo15
11-09-2006, 10:34 AM
This may just be me, but I think giving a quarterback from SLC Player of the Year honors every year is like the NCAA giving Texas Tech quarterbacks the Heisman every year because they have unbelievable numbers. Now obviously this is not an exact comparison because SLC actually wins, and wins alot. And even though the players that have played that position at SLC have been very good, including Dodge, I still have to believe it is somewhat of a system type of deal where they are thriving in that spot because of the system they are involved in. Anyway, I know some of you SLC fans and others may not agree with me, but that is just my opinion.
Roadrunnerbia
11-09-2006, 10:52 AM
Sam McGuffie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnkttzdNrU
Hafta watch till the end of the clip hes 2 in Maroon
ourgalsal
11-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Have you seen dodge run. He is the first of their great passers and runners from the QB position.
KT2000
11-09-2006, 11:11 AM
Nathan Dick of Allen isn't getting the press of some listed but he's passed for 2100 yards and 17 TDs to 0 INTs for a good Allen team so far. That's amazing. He even missed a game to injury.
Ron Brooks of Irving Macarthur would be a strong candidate if his team was having a better season.
Sakatha
11-09-2006, 11:13 AM
This may just be me, but I think giving a quarterback from SLC Player of the Year honors every year is like the NCAA giving Texas Tech quarterbacks the Heisman every year because they have unbelievable numbers. Now obviously this is not an exact comparison because SLC actually wins, and wins alot. And even though the players that have played that position at SLC have been very good, including Dodge, I still have to believe it is somewhat of a system type of deal where they are thriving in that spot because of the system they are involved in. Anyway, I know some of you SLC fans and others may not agree with me, but that is just my opinion.
Well, the 'sad' part is that Riley is more deserving(IMO) than at least 2 of the last 4 yearly winner... and he might just ger hosed because of what you just said...
~DnM
Roadrunnerbia
11-09-2006, 11:26 AM
I think Riley Dodge has gotten more media than Sam McGuffie . . . McGuffie has over 2000 yards rushing and 28 TD's
What about Horace Gibson?
Gibson is probably the THIRD best back in his district.
tfath15
11-09-2006, 12:45 PM
I have seen both Dodge and Cole play. If I needed to go 80 yards with two minutes left for the win, I would choose Cole. He also has a year on Dodge.
dragonsdaddy
11-09-2006, 12:58 PM
I have seen both Dodge and Cole play. If I needed to go 80 yards with two minutes left for the win, I would choose Cole. He also has a year on Dodge.
you might choose cole. i'd go with the dragons and put any of the last 4 qbs in the saddle. they give ice water iv's late in halves to all qbs and wrs.
Sakatha
11-09-2006, 01:01 PM
you might choose cole. i'd go with the dragons and put any of the last 4 qbs in the saddle. they give ice water iv's late in halves to all qbs and wrs.
That's a fact... There's absolutely no panic in this team...
~DnM
timbo15
11-09-2006, 01:10 PM
That's a fact... There's absolutely no panic in this team...
~DnM
I wasn't saying earlier anything negative about SLC. I truly think what they have done over the past 5 years or so is amazing. And I think that Riley is going to end up being by far the most talented quarterback to come from that system (which is saying alot). It just seems like it could be difficult to separate the "true studs" from the "system bred quarterbacks." That being said Dodge is a stud. But I see Cole as being right up there with him.
unbiasedobserver
11-09-2006, 02:39 PM
I really think Dodge has an excellent chance to get it this year. I thought a couple of years ago that Jamaal Charles should have won the award. However, it looks like your team needs to contend for a title in order to win.
That is probably a fair criteria considering that it is the same with almost all individual football awards i.e. the Heisman, MVP etc.
dragonsdaddy
11-09-2006, 02:45 PM
I really think Dodge has an excellent chance to get it this year. I thought a couple of years ago that Jamaal Charles should have won the award. However, it looks like your team needs to contend for a title in order to win.
That is probably a fair criteria considering that it is the same with almost all individual football awards i.e. the Heisman, MVP etc.
by my estimation, there are easily 10-15 kids deserving of the poy award every year, and only rarely is one head and shoulders above the rest. the voting is claimed to be based on the reg season only, but curiously the result is released the day before the state title game. hmmmmm?
unbiasedobserver
11-09-2006, 02:48 PM
Sorry if I gave the impression that I thought Daniels was not worthy. He was and is a great player and was a legitimate winner. As you say there are several players each year that could be named and it would be difficult to argue with any of them.
TXfootball0227
11-09-2006, 06:07 PM
Gibson is probably the THIRD best back in his district.
HAHAHAHA now how do you figure that? when he is the 9th leading rusher in the houston area! and has dwayne stewart who is the 2nd leading rusher in the area isnt that far ahead of horace and has probably 50 or so more carries.... same with McGuffie! So your wrong on that... and IF there was one back better than him it MIGHT be Dwayne Stewart of Westfield, besides him possibly being better, there is NO ONE ELSE with talent like gibson!
CFbfnd1188
11-09-2006, 07:16 PM
have u watched mcguffie play?
bobcatDL07
11-09-2006, 07:22 PM
HAHAHAHA now how do you figure that? when he is the 9th leading rusher in the houston area! and has dwayne stewart who is the 2nd leading rusher in the area isnt that far ahead of horace and has probably 50 or so more carries.... same with McGuffie! So your wrong on that... and IF there was one back better than him it MIGHT be Dwayne Stewart of Westfield, besides him possibly being better, there is NO ONE ELSE with talent like gibson!
u crack me up..lol?
TXfootball0227
11-09-2006, 08:45 PM
u crack me up..lol?
crack you up? You make it sound like im not telling the truth, look through the stats that were just posted its true... Im not taking anything away from Sam McGuffie, i've seen him play in person and he is amazing, so yes he if anyone should deserve this award. But to say that Horace Gibson is the 3rd best back in district 16-5a is ridiculous.
dt1064
11-09-2006, 09:05 PM
What? Nobody from 26-5A? :( :)
PantherStang84
11-09-2006, 10:40 PM
you might choose cole. i'd go with the dragons and put any of the last 4 qbs in the saddle. they give ice water iv's late in halves to all qbs and wrs.
Despite the fact they really have had no reason to panic in recent history. :D
dragonsfan
11-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Sam McGuffie was pretty awesome on the Friday night FSSW show last week. 2000+ yards with a game left in regular season has to get your attention.
lovethelions
11-10-2006, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=KLH75287]Sam on Video....This kid is insane for a Jr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnkttzdNrU
:eek: Wow! That's amazing! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
HAHAHAHA now how do you figure that? when he is the 9th leading rusher in the houston area! and has dwayne stewart who is the 2nd leading rusher in the area isnt that far ahead of horace and has probably 50 or so more carries.... same with McGuffie! So your wrong on that... and IF there was one back better than him it MIGHT be Dwayne Stewart of Westfield, besides him possibly being better, there is NO ONE ELSE with talent like gibson!
I would say that Steward AND Walker were better than Gibson....sure he's had 2 monster games...but as far as quality backs who PERFORM in big games....how can Gibson be a canidate for 5A player of the year when he's not even the best back in his district? You Can throw Cotton from KF in their also who is having a monster year.
SArattler08
11-17-2006, 06:34 PM
marcus wright from SA Reagan:cool:
nevaplayedk9
11-17-2006, 08:15 PM
marcus wright from SA Reagan:cool:
and he's only a jr. i heard, is that true?
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