Colerain....

[Texasfrog]

Well... I figured I would go ahead and start this thread with the big Texas vs Ohio weekend coming soon. "Let the good times roll." :D

[toonman]

I believe the game is not going to be showing in Texas. Can someone please confirm which network, is televising this game, with times etc in other states. I want to have the game taped and sent to me. Please let me know.

[Texasfrog]

I believe the game is not going to be showing in Texas. Can someone please confirm which network, is televising this game, with times etc in other states. I want to have the game taped and sent to me. Please let me know.

The game is suppose to come on ESPNU. I think the only way to get ESPNU is to have Directv. Plus, its not going to been shown in Texas. The (UIL) has blacked it out according to (UIL) rules. :(

[supercentex]

Hopefully somone from out of state can make us all some copies. Make a few bucks from it.

[Texasfrog]

Hopefully somone from out of state can make us all some copies. Make a few bucks from it.

I'm going to tape it here in Florida. Just hope REL represents. :)

PS. arent they tape delaying it ??

[Texasfrog]

I thought the interview with the Chaminade coach was great. He said that he gets college scouts from alot of ACC and Big-10 schools that come to his Hollywood-Chaminade campus to recruit his kids.

The scouts told him that " they go too two different States to get speed, Texas & Florida."

[dragonsdaddy]

hopefully they'll tape delay it. if colerain happens to slip again, the game will lose whatever luster it might have had.

[Texasfrog]

hopefully they'll tape delay it. if colerain happens to slip again, the game will lose whatever luster it might have had.

I dont see Colerain losing to the Kentucky team. Mabye I'll be wrong but I just dont see that happening. They should come into that game (1-1) and REL should be (2-0). :)

[supercentex]

I hope Owens doesn't let up at all..........and open the books up on them...and puts over 50 on the board.

They stayed a little basic last night...but then towards the end of the game you could tell they opened the books up some.

[Texasfrog]

I hope Owens doesn't let up at all..........and open the books up on them...and puts over 50 on the board.

They stayed a little basic last night...but then towards the end of the game you could tell they opened the books up some.

Ya, I listened to the game on the radio. I dont think they had to show alot last night. heck, when your "RB" is getting 10 yds a pop plowing through , around and over people.

I'm sure that REL will open up the playbook against Colerain with alot more passing to loosen them up. I've seen alot of Ohio games now (about 8) and its the same thing in everyone of them. They stack about 9 people in the box to shut the run down (just like Colerain did last year).

I dont think they see wide open , spread teams like in Texas. I do think Colerain's defense is going to have a very very hard time adjusting to it. When you're not used to playing against teams that show alot of different formations and set, shifting, motion and ect. Its hard to get used to that in one or two weeks. I may be steeping way over the line,, but I really think Tyler Lee is going to be able to score at least 28 and probably more points on this so called "vaunted Colerain defense."

I just really really dont think they see Offensive like Texas teams do.

PS. Maybe I'm wrong.. we'll see I guess.

[Texasfrog]

I hope Owens doesn't let up at all..........and open the books up on them...and puts over 50 on the board.

They stayed a little basic last night...but then towards the end of the game you could tell they opened the books up some.

dude, if REL put 50 on the board !! That would be sick :eek:

[Texasfrog]

Concheee, where are ya ?? I started this thread basically for you :D

[RidgePride]

Concheee, where are ya ?? I started this thread basically for you :D

I think Concheeeee Is Through with predictions until after the Colerain Game -
(A little Nervous).

He is already buttering us up for a REL spanking. He stated that Colerain may not make the playoffs. (They lost to one of Ohio's best by 7 Points).

Colerain has everything to lose in the Game Against REL. This game counts for Colerain as far as making the playoffs. REL is playing for pride.

If Colerain plays a good game Against REL then he (Concheeeee) will come out of the woodworks.

If REL dominates Colerain - I bet we never hear from Conchee. - Conchee does not get a free pass from me though. If REL dominates, He will hear it from almost everyone on the Board.

Kind of funny how REL scrimmages Desoto to a 21-21 draw - Then Trinity Destroys Desoto. Then REL goes on to beat one of Florida's Best.

[Texasfrog]

I think Conchee Is Through with predictions until after the Colerain Game -
(A little Nervous).

He is already buttering us up for a REL spanking. He stated that Colerain may not make the playoffs. (They lost to one of Ohio's best by 7 Points).

Colerain has everything to lose in the Game Against REL. This game counts for Colerain as far as making the playoffs. REL is playing for pride.

If Colerain plays a good game Against REL then he (Conchee) will come out of the woodworks.

If REL dominates Colerain - I bet we never hear from Conchee. - Conchee does not get a free pass from me though. If REL dominates, He will hear it from almost everyone on the Board.

Kind of funny how REL scrimmages Desoto to a 21-21 draw - Then Trinity Destroys Desoto. Then REL goes on to beat one of Florida's Best.

I'm with ya Ridge. I'm trying to have civil debate with him and hopefully we can.

Heck, I almost fell out of my chair yesterday when Conche posted, " If Colerain doesnt get their QB situation worked out REL will win."

Would we of heard that 3 months ago ??? Three months ago it didnt matter at all who the Colerain QB was going to be. Colerain had this "World Class defense" and their "O-line" would blow open huge holes because its the best "O-line in America" and the Colerain RB- is a major D-1A athlete that will outrun & run over everyone on REL defense and blah blah blah..

I think the "light" has gone off some. I think Conche honestly see's some of the talented teams that REL has scrimmage against and now played agaisnt (Hollywood Chaminde) and what type of players and coaching they have and its made the "light" go off some.

All of these teams have very stout O-lines, LB's and ect with very good Coaching.

I still think REL is going to put over 28 pts on Colerain vaunted defense. I really really believe that. I'm betting on at least 28 if not more pts.

[Texasfrog]

Trinity sounds like they're flat scary this year. They might be the ulimate sleeper team when November and December roll around.

[Texasfrog]

Colerains going to be one of the best teams in Ohio period. If they dont make the Ohio playoffs ?? That's because the Ohio playoff format is stupid.

Colerain scrimmage Moeller to basically a (7-7) tie last week.

Colerain lost to St. X (7-0).

Moeller and St. X are both top #6 or so Ohio teams. Colerain basically plays down for down with them even with a QB that supposly isnt that good.

I'm still sure that Colerain is going to go and dominate probably the rest of their schedule except maybe two or three teams.

Colerain is clearly one of Ohio's top echlon teams.. 100% no doubt.

[sltnusmc]

Is this game going to be shown on FSN Ohio? I have that here in Indiana.

[Texasfrog]

Is this game going to be shown on FSN Ohio? I have that here in Indiana.

No... it's going to be on ESPNU. Its a new ESPN channel that you can only get with Directv from what I understand.

Its a National televised game that only about 2% of the country can get. So much for it really being a national tevelivised game huh ..

[RidgePride]

Heck, I almost fell out of my chair yesterday when Conche posted, " If Colerain doesnt get their QB situation worked out REL will win."




Let the Back Tracking Begin -

[Reaganrattler07]

No... it's going to be on ESPNU. Its a new ESPN channel that you can only get with Directv from what I understand.

Its a National televised game that only about 2% of the country can get. So much for it really being a national tevelivised game huh ..

A lot of people have Directv from what I hear (I do as well) but not a lot of people watch High School Football unless it's a famous school or there associated with it....

[Texasfrog]

A lot of people have Directv from what I hear (I do as well) but not a lot of people watch High School Football unless it's a famous school or there associated with it....

Ya, I didnt go to Tyler Lee but I'm associated with it. Its in Texas and I'm a Texan. Good enough for me. :) no no :D

[Reaganrattler07]

Well, the only teams I'd watch on TV could possibly include some from the North-Northeast area of San Antonio or maybe even SLC, and some of the big schools that made it pretty far into the playoffs/State Tournament.

[Texasfrog]

Well, the only teams I'd watch on TV could possibly include some from the North-Northeast area of San Antonio or maybe even SLC, and some of the big schools that made it pretty far into the playoffs/State Tournament.

Tyler Lee did that. They won the State title last season. :)

[concha]

I think Concheeeee Is Through with predictions until after the Colerain Game -
(A little Nervous). [That's your first mistake. You tried to think. Why should I be nervous when the Colerain-X game :D ended up just as I figured?. Make sense.]

He is already buttering us up for a REL spanking. He stated that Colerain may not make the playoffs. (They lost to one of Ohio's best by 7 Points). [Where do get this stuff? All Colerain needs is one or two more losses and they are likely to not make the tourney. It is a simple fact. "Buttering up". Priceless. When you get back from Fantasyland, give us a call.]

Colerain has everything to lose in the Game Against REL. This game counts for Colerain as far as making the playoffs. REL is playing for pride.

If Colerain plays a good game Against REL then he (Concheeeee) will come out of the woodworks. [I have been on the road for the better part of 3 weeks and have been spending time with my family outside the house, if you must know.]

If REL dominates Colerain - I bet we never hear from Conchee. - Conchee does not get a free pass from me though. If REL dominates, He will hear it from almost everyone on the Board. [Wrong. And why the animosity? Have i trashed REL somewhere? Said Colerain will kick the crap out of them? No. I haven't. Only in your massive imaginations. You guys kill me. You keep saying I have been talking all kinds of smack. Well, where is it??? I simply came here to talk football.]

Kind of funny how REL scrimmages Desoto to a 21-21 draw - Then Trinity Destroys Desoto. Then REL goes on to beat one of Florida's Best. [You mean "in the final seconds barely beat one of Florida's best, who playing probably for the first time out of state, who arrived in Texas at stupid-o'clock-in-the-morning after their homes were hit by a hurricane etc etc"]

...................................

First prize for creative writing.

[concha]

I'm with ya Ridge. I'm trying to have civil debate with him and hopefully we can.

Heck, I almost fell out of my chair yesterday when Conche posted, " If Colerain doesnt get their QB situation worked out REL will win." [I have stated from day one that Colerain's success would hinge on the QB. Day one. You know. I know it. Let's be honest, TF. DAY ONE.]

Would we of heard that 3 months ago ??? Three months ago it didnt matter at all who the Colerain QB was going to be. [Huh?] Colerain had this "World Class defense" and their "O-line" would blow open huge holes because its the best "O-line in America" and the Colerain RB- is a major D-1A athlete that will outrun & run over everyone on REL defense and blah blah blah.. [I'll refer you back to my previous comment]

I think the "light" has gone off some. I think Conche honestly see's some of the talented teams that REL has scrimmage against and now played agaisnt (Hollywood Chaminde) and what type of players and coaching they have and its made the "light" go off some.

All of these teams have very stout O-lines, LB's and ect with very good Coaching.

I still think REL is going to put over 28 pts on Colerain vaunted defense. I really really believe that. I'm betting on at least 28 if not more pts.


Creative writing Silver Medal.

[concha]

Colerains going to be one of the best teams in Ohio period. If they dont make the Ohio playoffs ?? That's because the Ohio playoff format is stupid.

Colerain scrimmage Moeller to basically a (7-7) tie last week.

Colerain lost to St. X (7-0).

Moeller and St. X are both top #6 or so Ohio teams. Colerain basically plays down for down with them even with a QB that supposly isnt that good.

I'm still sure that Colerain is going to go and dominate probably the rest of their schedule except maybe two or three teams.

Colerain is clearly one of Ohio's top echlon teams.. 100% no doubt.


The Ohio playoff system is very highly regarded, in fact.

[Texasfrog]

The Ohio playoff system is very highly regarded, in fact.

No, when you can omit a team that is (8-2) or even (9-1) and clearly one of Ohio top #5 teams from the playoffs. Well, "Houston we have a problem."

[Texasfrog]

Creative writing Silver Medal.

No Concha.... 3 & 4 months ago it didnt matter at all who Colerain QB was going to be.

Colerain had this world class O-line, RB that couldnt be stopped, Phenon LB's and a couple of great DB's. Their O-line would blow open huge holes for their great RB that would be running untouched down the field for several touchdowns.

I told you that Colerain is going to have to be able to throw and you told me "they dont have to be able to throw it because their the best running team in America."

"It didnt matter one bit about who the QB was going to be."

Now, Dont get me wrong. This game is probably going to be very good. I still think playing in Ohio is going to be tough and probably worth a couple of "ref calls" and ect.

I do still think Colerain is going to have to be able to throw the football. At least have a throwing threat (which it doesnt sound like they have). I believe REL is going to stack about 9 players up in the box and they'll have Cuba right up there also. So, unless Colerain can throw it might be tough.

* But, I predict is going to be a tough game.

[concha]

No, when you can omit a team that is (8-2) or even (9-1) and clearly one of Ohio top #5 teams from the playoffs. Well, "Houston we have a problem."

Colerain plays in a region with many excellent programs. Within 5-15 miles you have Elder, St. Xavier and Moeller. A short drive up to Dayton and there are Huber Heights Wayne, Centerville, and Northmont. In our system, Colerain has to meet and beat a level of competition sufficient to earn enough points to advance. They have to earn it. Plain and simple.

If they run the table for the rest of the season (except possibly for REL), they MAY make it. The fact is that their schedule from week4 on is a bunch of stiffs compared to the programs I mentioned earlier and might not give them the Harbins they require. If not, tough. Win more games against quality opponents.......

[concha]

No Concha.... 3 & 4 months ago it didnt matter at all who Colerain QB was going to be.

Colerain had this world class O-line, RB that couldnt be stopped, Phenon LB's and a couple of great DB's. Their O-line would blow open huge holes for their great RB that would be running untouched down the field for several touchdowns.

I told you that Colerain is going to have to be able to throw and you told me "they dont have to be able to throw it because their the best running team in America."

"It didnt matter one bit about who the QB was going to be."

Now, Dont get me wrong. This game is probably going to be very good. I still think playing in Ohio is going to be tough and probably worth a couple of "ref calls" and ect.

I do still think Colerain is going to have to be able to throw the football. At least have a throwing threat (which it doesnt sound like they have). I believe REL is going to stack about 9 players up in the box and they'll have Cuba right up there also. So, unless Colerain can throw it might be tough.

* But, I predict is going to be a tough game.

"Colerain's huge question mark here is at QB. Without a good one it is hard to get an option game clicking." Concha (5-25-2005)

Gee, that's over 3 months ago. And just TWO DAYS AFTER I JOINED THIS SITE. I'm sure there are earlier ones, this one was just the easiest to find.

So let's keep the facts straight. Next.....

[concha]

There is a deafening silence.

Nobody can back up accusations of smack from me about Colerain-REL. Gee, I'm shocked. And this is despite the fact that I've supposedly been doing it for 3 months now. :rolleyes:

Accusations about me saying that Colerain's QB situation is irrelevant took about 30 seconds of searching to kick to the curb. :eek: It wouldn't have taken that long but my DSL is slow today.

It would be nice if folks would actually accuse me of things I've actaully said, rather than just imagining them. Plain common courtesy and personal integrity, kids......

[RidgePride]

There is a deafening silence.

Nobody can back up accusations of smack from me about Colerain-REL. Gee, I'm shocked. And this is despite the fact that I've supposedly been doing it for 3 months now. :rolleyes:

You are simply impossible to deal with - Your just argumentative - that is it.


Accusations about me saying that Colerain's QB situation is irrelevant took about 30 seconds of searching to kick to the curb. :eek: It wouldn't have taken that long but my DSL is slow today.

It would be nice if folks would actually accuse me of things I've actaully said, rather than just imagining them. Plain common courtesy and personal integrity, kids......


Hey Concha Who Cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[concha]

Hey Concha Who Cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad the Midol helped you out Sunday morning.

I'll take your response as RidgePridese for "Wow, Concha's right. I've been talking out my tuckus and can't back up all the crap I've accused him of."

:D

[Texasfrog]

Colerain plays in a region with many excellent programs. Within 5-15 miles you have Elder, St. Xavier and Moeller. A short drive up to Dayton and there are Huber Heights Wayne, Centerville, and Northmont. In our system, Colerain has to meet and beat a level of competition sufficient to earn enough points to advance. They have to earn it. Plain and simple.

If they run the table for the rest of the season (except possibly for REL), they MAY make it. The fact is that their schedule from week4 on is a bunch of stiffs compared to the programs I mentioned earlier and might not give them the Harbins they require. If not, tough. Win more games against quality opponents.......

Sorry, but a 7-0 loss to what is probably the #1 or #2 (St.X) in Ohio doesnt make you a non-playoff caliber team !!

Even if they lose to REL.

[Texasfrog]

RAIDERS ANSWER QUESTIONS IN VICTORY OVER CHAMINADE
By CHRIS PARRY, Staff Writer
08/28/2005



Robert E. Lee entered Saturday's season opener against Hollywood (Fla.) Chaminade Madonna with a few questions: How would senior Preston Hill respond to his first quarterback start since his sophomore season? How would an inexperienced offensive line handle Chaminade Madonna's defense filled with Division I prospects, and how would Lee's defense make up for the loss of starting free safety Tekerrein Cuba, who was out with a knee injury?

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One thing Lee head coach Mike Owens did not have any questions about was returning senior running back Jason Williams.

And Williams showed everyone why Saturday night at Trinity Mother Frances Rose Stadium.

The senior carried 28 times for 259 yards and scored four rushing touchdowns to help lead Lee past Chaminade-Madonna, 34-28.

"We were excited to get out there, and we just left it all on the field," Williams said. "I told my linemen, if they block, I'll run hard."

Williams kept his word, breaking more than one tackle on several of his runs.

With the game tied 7-7 midway through the second quarter, Williams crashed through three Chaminade-Madonna tacklers for a 27-yard touchdown. In the second half, Williams was pushed back by the defensive surge at the line of scrimmage, before resetting himself and racing 58 yards for a touchdown. His final score of the night featured more of the same as the Lee back twisted out of tackles to get into the open field before waltzing 21 yards for the touchdown.

"Williams is very physical, and the way he hammered people tonight was phenomenal," said Lee head coach Mike Owens. "Our offensive line did a great job also. They were coming off on them and sealing them up. We had some great kick-outs, and Jason hit those creases."

There was more than one great tailback on the field Saturday night. Chaminade-Madonna senior Willie Floyd used his unrelenting quickness and speed to frustrate Lee to the tune of 221 yards and two touchdowns.

"He's great," Owens said of Floyd. "That guy is full speed on his second step. On the second step, he's gone. And he has great vision and is a big-time player."

Chaminade-Madonna fullback Xavier Stinson finished with 14 carries for 73 yards. All told, the Lions out-rushed Lee 317 to 315.

The difference of the game was a costly penalty and turnover by Chaminade-Madonna. The Lions had a long touchdown pass called back because of a holding penalty in the second half and fumbled the ball near Lee's goal line to stop another scoring chance in the first half.

Lee is 1-0 heading into its first road test Friday at Waco (0-1). The Red Raiders are also 1-0 in their first of two games against out-of-state opponents.

"It's great to be 1-0, especially against a team like that," Owens said. "There is not a player over there who isn't a player. They do a great job with a good scheme, and their two running backs are something else.

"If they could throw the football a little more, they would be seriously dangerous."

Lee is ranked No. 3 in Class 5A by the Associated Press. The Red Raiders will next take on the Waco Lions at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Waco I.S.D. Stadium.

Williams said Saturday's win is the first of many successes Lee will achieve this season.

"This win is the first step, and we've hopefully got 14 more," Williams concluded. "All the way to state."


Chris Parry covers sports. He can be reached at 903.596.6335. e-mail: sports@tylerpaper.com




©Tyler Morning Telegraph 2005

Hey Conchee, Hollywood-Chaminade offense had:

QB-Guandolo (5-10/165) very good athlete
RB- Floyd (5-9/165) great athlete (4.3) speed. --D-1A
FB- Stinson (5-9/220) 2006 Fla top #10 prospect. - D-1A
Wr- Aiken (6-3/195) Michael Irvin clone. - D-1A
Wr- Gongora (6-2/185) - D-1A
TE- Dawson (6-4/275) - D-1A
OT-Wank-Woe (6-4/275) - D-1A
OT-Goldman (6-1/275)
OG- Ferguson (6-4/290) - D-1A
OG-Nardelli (5-10/250)
C- Maynard (6-2/240)

They run the Wing-T and have some pretty solid "balance" so you have to respect many threats across the field. Tyler Lee played them pretty good. Hard to cover all those threats on the field. I'm sure FS-Cuba would of helped out alot on the field.

[sltnusmc]

Can anyone post a list of websites covering Ohio football?

[concha]

Sorry, but a 7-0 loss to what is probably the #1 or #2 (St.X) in Ohio doesnt make you a non-playoff caliber team !!

Even if they lose to REL.

St. X is #1 or #2 in their region now (Moeller being the other). Cleveland St. Ignatius and Glenville are the favorites now, and probably by a fair margin at this point.

And i didn't say that Colerain is not a playoff caliber team. But in Ohio you have to win to prove it and win against quality competition. If they do that, then no worries for them.

[concha]

Can anyone post a list of websites covering Ohio football?

For big school coverage, try yappi.com. There is also jjhuddle.com, but I believe you might have to pay a few $$$ to join.

[Texasfrog]

St. X is #1 or #2 in their region now (Moeller being the other). Cleveland St. Ignatius and Glenville are the favorites now, and probably by a fair margin at this point.

And i didn't say that Colerain is not a playoff caliber team. But in Ohio you have to win to prove it and win against quality competition. If they do that, then no worries for them.

Ya, well Colerain is just as good as those teams (St.X and Moeller). They basically had two toss-up games with both of them (7-0) and (0-0) games.

St.Iggy & Glenville, dont know.

But, Colerain, Moeller and St.X (toss up games because they're all even.)

[concha]

I watched some highlight video from the REL-Chaminade game. That's one fine looking RB that REL has, at least from the highlights.

Colerain needs to resolve the QB situation or they will lose.

[dada]

I watched some highlight video from the REL-Chaminade game. That's one fine looking RB that REL has, at least from the highlights.

Colerain needs to resolve the QB situation or they will lose.
Do you have a link?

[concha]

REL - Chaminade Highlights (http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3776263)

SuperCentex posted this on yappi.

[dada]

REL - Chaminade Highlights (http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3776263)

SuperCentex posted this on yappi.
Thanks!

[Favpack]

If I were Colerain I'd be getting pretty nervous about J. Williams. 259 yards against a solid D. Just think when Lee gets its passing game clicking.

[Texasfrog]

REL - Chaminade Highlights (http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3776263)
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SuperCentex posted this on yappi.
Yappi Division I Poll (8/29/05)

1. Cincinnati St Xavier (212) [40]
2. Cleveland St Ignatius (181) [24]
3. Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller (152) [4]
4. Cleveland Glenville Academic Campus (134) [15]
5. Lakewood St Edward (124) [1]
6. Cincinnati Colerain (119)
7. Cincinnati Elder (114) [1]
8. Warren G Harding (113)
9. Canton Mc Kinley (112)
10. Columbus Brookhaven (62) [1]

Concheee, Yappi has Colerain ranked #6 in Ohio.

St. Xavier ranked #1 and Moeller #3. Colerain is still one of the top #6 teams in Ohio.

I fully expect Colerain to beat up the Kentucky teams this week by over 21 pts if not more.

[Colerain-Cards]

If I were Colerain I'd be getting pretty nervous about J. Williams. 259 yards against a solid D. Just think when Lee gets its passing game clicking.

Not really!! Colerain's D will be more than ready.

[Texasfrog]

Not really!! Colerain's D will be more than ready.

Good to hear that.. Doesnt sound like Colerains "D" is the problem. Sounds like the problem is "O".

So,,, they going to shut down Jason Williams ? Just wondering.

[concha]

Yappi Division I Poll (8/29/05)

1. Cincinnati St Xavier (212) [40]
2. Cleveland St Ignatius (181) [24]
3. Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller (152) [4]
4. Cleveland Glenville Academic Campus (134) [15]
5. Lakewood St Edward (124) [1]
6. Cincinnati Colerain (119)
7. Cincinnati Elder (114) [1]
8. Warren G Harding (113)
9. Canton Mc Kinley (112)
10. Columbus Brookhaven (62) [1]

Concheee, Yappi has Colerain ranked #6 in Ohio.

St. Xavier ranked #1 and Moeller #3. Colerain is still one of the top #6 teams in Ohio.

I fully expect Colerain to beat up the Kentucky teams this week by over 21 pts if not more.

Keep in mind that the yappi poll is a fan poll and that yappi is predominantly made up of posters from Southwest Ohio (Elder, Colerain, Moeller and St. X fans outnumber all others by a huge margin). That is why you see southwestern schools like X and Moe so high. This is not to say they should not be highly ranked, but the odds are stacked in their favor. Realistically, Ignatius and Glenville should be the top two. Moe, Harding, X, St. Edward and Colerain are probably the next tier.

I would think Colerain will beat Highlands also. I would not be surprised if they get blanked. The big question is how effective (or NOT) Colerain's offense will be. Even if they put up some points, I will still have my doubts. I don't think Highland's defense is close to X's or Moe's.

Until I see the Colerain offense's troubles resolved against a really hugh-quality opponent, I have to favor REL. And guess what? REL is their next really high-quality opponent..... Imagine that.... :(

[concha]

Good to hear that.. Doesnt sound like Colerains "D" is the problem. Sounds like the problem is "O".

So,,, they going to shut down Jason Williams ? Just wondering.

Last year's Colerain defense..... oh, yes.

This year's? Who knows..... the LBs are excellent, but the d-line has been questioned. I don't think he'll run as freely as against Chaminade, though.

[MikeWahl]

I think Jason is a very rounded player who can adapt 2 different teams. It'll be a quite a game I believe. So u say the d-lines questionable? What about the coverage game? I don't know much bout Colerain, cept the supposed high skilled rep. I say supposed cuz i dont know for myself, atleast not yet.

[Colerain-Cards]

Good to hear that.. Doesnt sound like Colerains "D" is the problem. Sounds like the problem is "O".

So,,, they going to shut down Jason Williams ? Just wondering.

What is your def of shut down?

[Texasfrog]

Last year's Colerain defense..... oh, yes.

This year's? Who knows..... the LBs are excellent, but the d-line has been questioned. I don't think he'll run as freely as against Chaminade, though.

I'm not totally sure last years Colerain defense would shut down J. Williams.

I saw the Brinson kid get some good runs against Colerain . That's with Colerain totally not respecting Mckinley passing game and stacking the box.

Jason Williams is better then Brinson .. His bigger, probably same speed, but packs more power.

Colerain (2004, 2005) would have to spread their defense out to cover all the REL threats. I dont think Jason Williams would have 250 yds rushing on last seasons Colerain defense. But, I do think he would of gotten around a 150 on the them. They wouldnt of shut him down.

I also think last years REL "rb" Tyrone Ross would of gotten over 150 yds on them. REL had a pretty solid O-line last season with threats on the field and Tyrone ross is about as close to Barry Sanders as would see in High school. His (5-9/190/4.3) kid that can run.

[Texasfrog]

What is your def of shut down?

What's your's ?

[Texasfrog]

Last year's Colerain defense..... oh, yes.

This year's? Who knows..... the LBs are excellent, but the d-line has been questioned. I don't think he'll run as freely as against Chaminade, though.

They better not stack the box with 9 players are they will get burnt on alot of playaction passing.

[dada]

http://www.nflhs.com/StateStories.aspx?id=8200&state=OH

[RockinL]

Tyler Lee beat the Florida All Stars. Pretty impressive.

And Lee lost alot of players last year.

[SLCDad]

I was totally amazed that Colerain got zero yards passing. Amazing for a large school even running the triple option. Is that stat right?

[concha]

I'm not totally sure last years Colerain defense would shut down J. Williams.

I saw the Brinson kid get some good runs against Colerain . That's with Colerain totally not respecting Mckinley passing game and stacking the box.

Jason Williams is better then Brinson .. His bigger, probably same speed, but packs more power.

Colerain (2004, 2005) would have to spread their defense out to cover all the REL threats. I dont think Jason Williams would have 250 yds rushing on last seasons Colerain defense. But, I do think he would of gotten around a 150 on the them. They wouldnt of shut him down.

I also think last years REL "rb" Tyrone Ross would of gotten over 150 yds on them. REL had a pretty solid O-line last season with threats on the field and Tyrone ross is about as close to Barry Sanders as would see in High school. His (5-9/190/4.3) kid that can run.


Brinson was, apart from his 56 yard TD run, pretty ineffective. Apart from the 56 yarder, he had just 37 yards on 17 carries. That's just 2 yards per carry. The results probably would not have been much different if McK's passing game had been better. Colerain's running defense held some opponents to negative rushing yardage. Nobody had any success running against them all year. At all. Including at least two Mr. Football candidates.

Regardless, this is a different Colerain team. The d-line is simply not as dominant as it was last year. That said, it does not mean this year's crew is bad. They are new and last year's group was SO good that even if they play half as well they'll be pretty good. The real strength is in the LB corps, where they've got two big-time blue-chippers and a couple of other very solid kids. The defensive secondary will have one obvious blue-chipper in Eugene Clifford and should be solid all around. Clifford may need to serve the Cuba role you have mentioned, serving as a speedy stopper if Williams gets some room.

Williams looks like a very, very good back. He seemed to show excellent acceleration, good vision, and nice lateral motion. Of course, I am speaking from highlight film, but that;s what it showed and his stats would appear to back it up.

[concha]

I was totally amazed that Colerain got zero yards passing. Amazing for a large school even running the triple option. Is that stat right?

As I have stated repeatedly, due to the QB situation, Colerain is in trouble offensively.... :o

[ben0419]

Colerain's QB stat line read 12 carries 8 yards, 0 for 4 passing with 3 interceptions, so SLC Dad is correct in that Colerain had 0 passing yards. If it wasn't for Colerain's defense, St. X would have blown them out. St. X's only TD was after a fumble recovery in Colerain's redzone.

I think Colerain's defense will be more ready for a spread offense than some of you think. Moeller runs the spread offense and Colerain's defense shut them down pretty well last year in the playoffs and in the scrimmage game this year.

[ben0419]

.....also, the team they play against this weekend at Paul Brown Stadium, Ft. Thomas Highlands, runs the spread offense and throws the ball all over the field.

[RidgePride]

Colerain's QB stat line read 12 carries 8 yards, 0 for 4 passing with 3 interceptions, so SLC Dad is correct in that Colerain had 0 passing yards. If it wasn't for Colerain's defense, St. X would have blown them out. St. X's only TD was after a fumble recovery in Colerain's redzone.

I think Colerain's defense will be more ready for a spread offense than some of you think. Moeller runs the spread offense and Colerain's defense shut them down pretty well last year in the playoffs and in the scrimmage game this year.
Its not the fact that they run the spread that means anything, It is how effective it is when they run it.

The Richland Rebels also run the Spread and many teams shut them down.
Are they running the same spread that is run over here?
Just because you set out four receivers does not mean you are very good at it.

We will never know until one of our spread teams plays yours.
The REL vs Colerain will tell a lot about Texas vs Ohio.

If Colerain is able to shut down REL's offense then Ohio can make a claim to its football being legit.

The one thing that remains pat for Colerain is that they are supposed to have a very good defense. If Tyler Lee runs all over them; I would say that Colerain is good by Ohio standards (Not Texas).

By run all over I mean 120 plus yards rushing.
Shutting REL down to me would mean Less than 80 yards rushing. Anything in Between is average.

[RidgePride]

Not really!! Colerain's D will be more than ready.


I will hold you to this statement

[Texasfrog]

Its not the fact that they run the spread that means anything, It is how effective it is when they run it.

The Richland Rebels also run the Spread and many teams shut them down.
Are they running the same spread that is run over here?
Just because you set out four receivers does not mean you are very good at it.

We will never know until one of our spread teams plays yours.
The REL vs Colerain will tell a lot about Texas vs Ohio.

If Colerain is able to shut down REL's offense then Ohio can make some to its football being legit.

The one thing that remains pat for Colerain is that they are supposed to have a very good defense. If Tyler Lee runs all over them; I would say that Colerain is good by Ohio standards (Not Texas).

By run all over I mean 120 plus yards rushing.
Shutting REL down to me would mean Less than 80 yards rushing. Anything in Between is average.

Colerains defense wont shut down Tyler Lee. REL is way to good (athletes and coaching) to be shut down. I never seen a team shut down REL so we'll see.

[nsmustang]

This will be a great game. I was glad to see REL beat the Florida team. I've read reports that Colerain has a lot of starters returning from last years title team. If REL beats them they will have claim to be one of the best in the country.

[KT2000]

Actually, Colerain lost about as much as Tyler Lee did to graduation. A good amount graduated but there are some key players back as well.

[concha]

This will be a great game. I was glad to see REL beat the Florida team. I've read reports that Colerain has a lot of starters returning from last years title team. If REL beats them they will have claim to be one of the best in the country.

Then apparently my St. Xavier Bombers have that claim already.... :D

[RidgePride]

Then apparently my St. Xavier Bombers have that claim already.... :D
If Colerain beats REL then Yes your St. X Dudders can make that claim.

[raidercheerdad]

Then apparently my St. Xavier Bombers have that claim already.... :D

I can't believe you've already jumped ship.

[SLCDad]

If Colerain beats REL then Yes your St. X Dudders can make that claim.

Not really. Colerain was a consensous #4 nationally in 2004. They clearly are NOT nearly that high in 2005. Victories over Colerain may not mean much this year due to their poor offensive play so far (only one game however). REL is a great team but didn't beat the top teams in Texas in 2004.

Perhaps it would be wise to wait until December to make any such claims.

[concha]

I can't believe you've already jumped ship.

Jumped ship? :confused:

I'm a St. X grad.

[concha]

If Colerain beats REL then Yes your St. X Dudders can make that claim.

RidgePride,

My four-year-old is at the sandbox insult level also. You might enjoy trying to best him. Unfortunately, I'm quite sure he'd kick your tuckus also. :p :D

[RidgePride]

RidgePride,

My four-year-old is at the sandbox insult level also. You might enjoy trying to best him. Unfortunately, I'm quite sure he'd kick your tuckus also. :p :D


I was joking...

Your personal attacks on me are getting up there... but I still have not once attacked you personally.

I'll continue to be the bigger man.

[concha]

I was joking...

Your personal attacks on me are getting up there... but I still have not once attacked you personally.

I'll continue to be the bigger man.

Perhaps you don't remember your charming performance over the weekend while you were single-handedly keeping the Miller Company in the black?

"Bigger man". Hilarious.

[raidercheerdad]

Jumped ship? :confused:

I'm a St. X grad.

It just seemed like all summer you've been braggin on Colerain -- may be my oversight, but I haven't seen much about St. X! (some mentions, but not fandom)

[RidgePride]

Perhaps you don't remember your charming performance over the weekend while you were single-handedly keeping the Miller Company in the black?

"Bigger man". Hilarious.

I was completely joking about the Dudder thing-- most people brush it off as no big deal.

I guess I can add this as another personal insult.

It would be too childish for me to fight back -- (my dad can beat your dad Bla Bla Bla...)

[Texasfrog]

It just seemed like all summer you've been braggin on Colerain -- may be my oversight, but I haven't seen much about St. X! (some mentions, but not fandom)

Concha has.... 4 months ago ,,3 months ago... heck 1 month ago it didnt really matter much on who the Colerain QB was going to be. Colerain would be a better team then REL,, "PERIOD !"

Colerain has a huge (O-Line) that has a couple of blue-chips and they would basically push REL off the field and Colerain "RB' would bust out runs left and right on REL. The QB didnt matter much.

Colerain also had a defense that had " 2 Big-10 LB's" and a DB that is a D-1A caliber kid and they would shut down REL. Blah Blah Blah..

My point is this.. I've been saying it for months now. You cant compare STATS from what State to the other because the caliber of play in some States is alot higher.

Now, Like I've always said. I think the top #1-#6 teams in Ohio are very good. I think you start to get some of a "FAST" drop off after them.

In Texas there is about #1-#15 strong teams and there isnt alot of drop off between #16 thru #30.

I've looked at Colerain past few seasons. The most they've had scored on them is like 35 pts by Elder a few years back when Elder was the Ohio Champs.

This season... Colerain has lost to Ohio #1 team ST. Xavier (7-0) basically a toss-up. They also played Moeller who is a top #6 Ohio team to basically a (0-0) tie in the scrimmage game.

IF.... IF.... IF Tyler Lee scores about 28 pts on Colerain. Then 100% proof is that Texas offensives are very powerful.

If REL keeps Colerain to about 10 or even 14 pts. I dont want to hear that Texas teams cant play defense either. Because that "MYTH" will be put to rest.

Remember.. This game is being played in OHIO so every imaginal "ODD" will favor Colerain alot alot alot more then REL.

[Texasfrog]

Then apparently my St. Xavier Bombers have that claim already.... :D

St. Xavier beat Colerain (7-0). Basically a toss-up .

Tyler Lee is coming to Ohio. Playing in Ohio. Having all the odds against them ( Refs, crowd, ect).

So, if Tyler Lee comes to Ohio and plays a very strong game against Colerain. I dont know if a (7-0) victory over Colerain by to local teams playing each other would be alot to wave a flag about.

[nsmustang]

Actually, Colerain lost about as much as Tyler Lee did to graduation. A good amount graduated but there are some key players back as well.

With that info it should be an even better matched game than I was thinking. I do think the talent and team competition varies greatly from state to state.
Longview has shown that, with wins over Evangel so this will be even better.
It will give a real look at the validity of these national polls and rankings we always see. It's always hard not to be biased but Texas high school ball is the toughest in the country. I was proud of REL for beating the Florida team......

[Texasfrog]

With that info it should be an even better matched game than I was thinking. I do think the talent and team competition varies greatly from state to state.
Longview has shown that, with wins over Evangel so this will be even better.
It will give a real look at the validity of these national polls and rankings we always see. It's always hard not to be biased but Texas high school ball is the toughest in the country. I was proud of REL for beating the Florida team......

Both teams .. Colerain & Tyler Lee have about 8 kids coming back that got alot of playing time last season.

[raidercheerdad]

Does anyone know who won the Colerain/Tyler Lee game? It's been played out so many times on here that I know it has to be over! What was the score of the game next Friday?

[gritty52]

IF the Florida team rushed for 300 plus yards on Tyler Lee they better be ready. Trinity has 2 RB's that can do that to them. Also I forgot this little item Trinity can pass too!!!! Also will be bringing the HAKA with us to that old WW11l stadium. :)

[dada]

IF the Florida team rushed for 300 plus yards on Tyler Lee they better be ready. Trinity has 2 RB's that can do that to them. Also I forgot this little item Trinity can pass too!!!! Also will be bringing the HAKA with us to that old WW11l stadium. :)
The "Florida" team is one of the best in the nation and could probably do that to anyone...texas team need to be more concerend with stopping Lees rushing attack.

[bleedgreen]

gritty52----jason Williams will probably put up close to 150-200 yards rushing on your defense......instead of telling us what trinity is bringing to the game, you better start first with bringing a defense or it will be a long night..............

[Texasfrog]

gritty52----jason Williams will probably put up close to 150-200 yards rushing on your defense......instead of telling us what trinity is bringing to the game, you better start first with bringing a defense or it will be a long night..............

Ya, I also think Tyler Lee can throw the football also to balance the running of Jason Williams. Nice one two punch.

Still waiting for FS-T.Cuba. He'll help slow the run down some.

[gritty52]

Williams sounds like from hearing yaw talk a real good rusher. We beat em last year in the regular season (they got us when it really counted). I'm saying that he can get 200 yds. on us we play a runner just about every week here in 6-5 A Evans, Moody, Watkins :) that can put up those numbers. It will be a good game on the 16th. Don't know if we will win, but they better bring sister whoever with them!!!!!!!!

[RockinL]

With that info it should be an even better matched game than I was thinking. I do think the talent and team competition varies greatly from state to state.
Longview has shown that, with wins over Evangel so this will be even better.
It will give a real look at the validity of these national polls and rankings we always see. It's always hard not to be biased but Texas high school ball is the toughest in the country. I was proud of REL for beating the Florida team......
As far as Chaminade Madonna......they would have to be one of the top 3 best coached/disciplined teams in Florida. Beating a team like them was no easy task.
I look at it as Tyler Lee beat a somewhat "all star" Florida team.....since they do "attract" players from a very wide area.

[Colerain-Cards]

St. Xavier beat Colerain (7-0). Basically a toss-up .

Tyler Lee is coming to Ohio. Playing in Ohio. Having all the odds against them ( Refs, crowd, ect).

So, if Tyler Lee comes to Ohio and plays a very strong game against Colerain. I dont know if a (7-0) victory over Colerain by to local teams playing each other would be alot to wave a flag about.

Please tell us what Colerain has to do to earn your respect as a good football team.

[Texasfrog]

Please tell us what Colerain has to do to earn your respect as a good football team.

Look man,, to be honest with you. I dont have a dang thing against you are anyone from Ohio. I'm an American first and formost. Trust me on that.

But, I was born and raised in Texas and like most Texans I have alot of State Pride. I think it goes without saying that Texans probably have more State Pride then of the other 49 States.

Before I ever got into this debate about football I heard enough "STUFF" from Ohians on here and other sites that it really got me riled up.

I think its safe to say that Coach Owens (Tyler Lee) took his fair share of ribben from alot of Ohians when he was up in Ohio. He even said in the local paper that coaches from alot of different Ohians teams were coming up to him and telling him that they were going to show him what State was the real football power. I dont think a coach would really put that in the paper unless it kind of irked him some. I dont speak for Coach Owens but it seemed on the surface that it went probably beyond friendly ribbing. I think the title of the artice was "Ohio wants this game bad."

Hey, if Colerain beats REL or its a close game (10 pts or less). I'll give them respect. Remember, the game is being played in Ohio in front of about a 20/1 ratio of Ohio fans to Texas fans.

PS. Listen, I visit this site 90% of the time. I really like the 5A TExasfootball site. But, I've been to a few other and even a couple of Ohio sites scanning them. Trust me bro, there is alot of Ohians talking alot alot alot of noise on how they are going to put us Redneck, Hillbilly, Over-rated Texans in our place and teach us everything and blah blah blah.

We'll see. I have a feeling that Tyler Lee is alot "ALOT" better then they think. :)

[sltnusmc]

Is Colerain playing tonight? If so give some scores !

[Texasfrog]

Is Colerain playing tonight? If so give some scores !

No, they play a pretty solid team out of Kentucky tomorrow (Saturday). The team is called Highlanders. I think their suppose to be one of the top #3 teams in Kentucky.

[sltnusmc]

Will this game be broadcast online?

[Texasfrog]

Will this game be broadcast online?

I dont know. I'm sure somwhere (Ohio radio station) is broadcasting it.

[Colerain-Cards]

Will this game be broadcast online?

Nope it will not. Its on live TV here in Cincinnati. They Play Highlands Ky last years big school state champs.

[Texasfrog]

Nope it will not. Its on live TV here in Cincinnati. They Play Highlands Ky last years big school state champs.

Good.. tape it for me. I want to see it.

[Colerain-Cards]

Good.. tape it for me. I want to see it.

Just fly up to Cincy tomorrow and stay for the week. You could checkout that game, the Lee/Colerain , OSU/ Texas games.

[Texasfrog]

Just fly up to Cincy tomorrow and stay for the week. You could checkout that game, the Lee/Colerain , OSU/ Texas games.

Dont think that's in the cards. Good chance I'll be in either New Orleans or Mobile this time next week. So, I might not even get to see the Tyler Lee vs Colerain game.