The Woodlands vs. College Park

[woodlands2]

A rivalry begins.

This one is going to be a dog fight. Thoughts?

Im gonna take The Woods by 10 could be a low scoring game a first year option team vs an unestablished running team

[HUM398]

Im prob going get Hounded for this, But im taking College park... I like what i have seen from them this year, and i really think they have a shot.

3-0 CP

The woodlands offense is just to slow.. And CP is very explosive on offense...

[g-town07]

my cousin plays in the band at college park
and i havent seen either team this year
but cp has been surprising me for a first year varsity program
so im gonna go with them in the upset!

[twcpfan1]

As much as I hate to say this, I'm picking the Highlanders by 2 scores. I hope I'm wrong though.

[oldtig]

10-7 CP. Highlanders have been beat up too often this year and lack the faith in themselves to pull out a close one.

[Lp81]

As much as I hate to say this, I'm picking the Highlanders by 2 scores. I hope I'm wrong though.
Me too!I've seen both of these teams against Lufkin The Woods had a much better defense didn't see much from their offense but I didn't think CP will have enough on either side of the ball.Although CP offense Was fun to watch.

[mcmullen82]

I think Woods should win, but CP has a chance because woods is feeling low after getting killed on national tv

[TWHPA]

Sorry but CP - 0 , TWH - 32

Too much at stake in this game to sit back and relax. CP's defense is good but I think they will wear out in the second half after being on the field most of the game.

[twcpfan1]

The one player that worries me in this matchup is Tracy Milo. In a grind it out game, he could really keep the CP offense off the field. Plus he could open up the passing game for Grote and Co.

College Park needs to get to Parsons to have a shot. And I'm sure Coach Carson has a good game plan offensively for this game. I just hope our boys play as well as they could. If they do that, they will be ok.

Anyway, there isn't one more thing we could ask out of the coaching staff and the boys. These boys have done their parents and their Community proud.

For all intents and purposes, this game is their State Championship. Good Luck to the Cavaliers. Hope both teams stay healthy.

[HUM398]

The one player that worries me in this matchup is Tracy Milo. In a grind it out game, he could really keep the CP offense off the field. Plus he could open up the passing game for Grote and Co.

College Park needs to get to Parsons to have a shot. And I'm sure Coach Carson has a good game plan offensively for this game. I just hope our boys play as well as they could. If they do that, they will be ok.

Anyway, there isn't one more thing we could ask out of the coaching staff and the boys. These boys have done their parents and their Community proud.

For all intents and purposes, this game is their State Championship. Good Luck to the Cavaliers. Hope both teams stay healthy.


I like Tracy Milo, But just havent seen anything out of him this year because of that O-line... I dont know man, I really do think CP will pull this off

[twcpfan1]

I like Tracy Milo, But just havent seen anything out of him this year because of that O-line... I dont know man, I really do think CP will pull this off

Well HUM398. You've looked like a genius so far. You've been arguing from the get go, even more vigorously than I have, that College Park would make some noise in their first season. You were right. You definitely made the right call on the Conroe game. Here's hoping you prove me wrong once again.

Oh by the way. I did predict the Conroe game would go to overtime. I luckily was wrong about the result.

[Player1]

wow....anyone who thinks college park has a chance doesn't know anything about football. Woodlands gets the shaft because of their record. They played Lufkin, SV, Katy, and Northshore. So they lost to the best 5a teams in the state, doesn't make college park worthy of beating them at all. CP offense has NO chance against woodlands defense, plain and simple.

If woodlands had a easier schedule in the pre-season and won those games, they would probably be 7-1 with a loss to Lufkin. Then i guarantee no one would give college park a chance at winning this game.

[unbiasedobserver]

The Woods offense is weak enough that any team with a decent defense has a chance at upsetting them. The Woods scored 24 points on Conroe, and 7 of those points came from a punt return. College Park scored 21 points on Conroe.
The Woods should be favored and should win, but I would say it was a given or couch it in terms as strong as Player1 makes.

[Pack0406]

wow....anyone who thinks college park has a chance doesn't know anything about football. Woodlands gets the shaft because of their record. They played Lufkin, SV, Katy, and Northshore. So they lost to the best 5a teams in the state, doesn't make college park worthy of beating them at all. CP offense has NO chance against woodlands defense, plain and simple.

If woodlands had a easier schedule in the pre-season and won those games, they would probably be 7-1 with a loss to Lufkin. Then i guarantee no one would give college park a chance at winning this game.


Normally I would tend to agree with you, but this game has a lot kids that grew up together and know each other. IMO, The Woodlands will win, but if they win big it will surprise me and that's not a knock against your program. at any rate it will be good measuring stick for both programs.

[Player1]

Normally I would tend to agree with you, but this game has a lot kids that grew up together and know each other. IMO, The Woodlands will win, but if they win big it will surprise me and that's not a knock against your program. at any rate it will be good measuring stick for both programs.

I'm not trying to dog College Park at all. I'm really happy for what they have done this year.I I know lots of kids on both programs. I just don't like how they win a few games against some average opponents and all of the sudden there equal to the woodlands.

[Sicemhorns09]

Does anyone have an update?

[HUM398]

Well HUM398. You've looked like a genius so far. You've been arguing from the get go, even more vigorously than I have, that College Park would make some noise in their first season. You were right. You definitely made the right call on the Conroe game. Here's hoping you prove me wrong once again.

Oh by the way. I did predict the Conroe game would go to overtime. I luckily was wrong about the result.


well im def no genius, But i like CP and i like thier chances.

We will see what is happening

[HUM398]

wow....anyone who thinks college park has a chance doesn't know anything about football. Woodlands gets the shaft because of their record. They played Lufkin, SV, Katy, and Northshore. So they lost to the best 5a teams in the state, doesn't make college park worthy of beating them at all. CP offense has NO chance against woodlands defense, plain and simple.

If woodlands had a easier schedule in the pre-season and won those games, they would probably be 7-1 with a loss to Lufkin. Then i guarantee no one would give college park a chance at winning this game.


The woodlands has a good D, but they cant score... CP is a good team and is capable of the upset. Will they do it.. i dont really know. Do i think they can.. HELL YEAH! GO COLLEGE PARK!

[Favpack]

Woodz took it - 33 to 7 or 17? sorry I can't remember - but the Highlanders won handily - congrats to CP anyway - great year no. 1!

[twcpfan1]

TWHS won 33-7. Our QB, Hay had to leave the game early in the 1st. I heard they also swept JV, Freshmen and all Junior High games. Congratulations to the Woodlands. They were certainly on a mission this week. They sent the message that they are going to take this rivalry seriously and it's not going to be a friendly one. The band and drill team officers never came over to our side for the traditional introductions. Don't quite know what was behind that. They played harder against College Park tonight than they have all year. They wouldn't even take a knee on the last possession with a 33-7 lead. A lot of what went on, on the field tonight was a little disappointing. It wouldn't be appropriate to call anybody out but anybody that was there tonight would probably know what I'm talking about. It was a great atmosphere tonight. Moorehead was busting at the seams. The Cavs looked overwhelmed by the ocassion. Somebody whipped Highlander Nation into such a frenzied state this week. I imagine they wanted to send a message to the kids who chose not to stay when College Park was built. Somebody even vandalized College Park earlier this week sending that exact message.

The Woodlands DB's and WR's played great tonight. Skaufel looked like he was making every tackle tonight. The OL did a great job protecting Parsons. Parsons looks great when he gets a little time to throw the ball. If the OL can give him that time, he'll do great in the playoffs. Class guy too. I observed the way he conducted himself during the post game greetings

Again, congratulations to the Woodlands. Looking forward to this time next year

[HUM398]

The woodlands has a good D, but they cant score... CP is a good team and is capable of the upset. Will they do it.. i dont really know. Do i think they can.. HELL YEAH! GO COLLEGE PARK!


Well im not perfect...Maybe next year they knock of the woodz..

They will be a worthy opponent in years to come... They are a good team this year, they will be even better next year.

[twcpfan1]

Well im not perfect...Maybe next year they knock of the woodz..

They will be a worthy opponent in years to come... They are a good team this year, they will be even better next year.

It should be closer. The Woodlands are graduating a bunch of excellent seniors. But like I said, they decisively won the battle of the Underclassmen too. So who knows?

[collegeparkmom]

TWHS won 33-7. Our QB, Hay had to leave the game early in the 1st. I heard they also swept JV, Freshmen and all Junior High games. Congratulations to the Woodlands. They were certainly on a mission this week. They sent the message that they are going to take this rivalry seriously and it's not going to be a friendly one. The band and drill team officers never came over to our side for the traditional introductions. Don't quite know what was behind that. They played harder against College Park tonight than they have all year. They wouldn't even take a knee on the last possession with a 33-7 lead. A lot of what went on, on the field tonight was a little disappointing. It wouldn't be appropriate to call anybody out but anybody that was there tonight would probably know what I'm talking about. It was a great atmosphere tonight. Moorehead was busting at the seams. The Cavs looked overwhelmed by the ocassion. Somebody whipped Highlander Nation into such a frenzied state this week. I imagine they wanted to send a message to the kids who chose not to stay when College Park was built. Somebody even vandalized College Park earlier this week sending that exact message.

The Woodlands DB's and WR's played great tonight. Skaufel looked like he was making every tackle tonight. The OL did a great job protecting Parsons. Parsons looks great when he gets a little time to throw the ball. If the OL can give him that time, he'll do great in the playoffs. Class guy too. I observed the way he conducted himself during the post game greetings

Again, congratulations to the Woodlands. Looking forward to this time next year

I'm sure The Woodlands band and drill team officers were advised not to come over due to possible retaliation from the graffiti incident during the week.

I have to say, I have cheered for The Woodlands for so many years and watched my son play for 4 of them, but after this week the way some things have played out, I'm not sure if I ever want to cheer for them again. It's not just the sign incident, it's many things! I finally get to see what it's like to play against The Woodlands. It's just so sad to me that because some young men want to have a chance to participate in a football program (instead of standing on the side line until the last 6 mins of the game when they're winning by 30) that they had to go through what they went through this week. At my son's subvarsity game, we were down the whole game and our coaches were playing ALL the boys. The Woodlands 1st string quarterback played the entire game and their subs did't come in until mid 4th quarter from what I could tell.

As far as getting swept through all levels: we are still a young program. Many of our younger, more talented boys play up on varsity. Isn't our varsity running back a sophomore?

I remember when The Woodlands started out (I was in high school at a rival school) and they were getting their butts kicked by Conroe, Huntsville, and whoever else was in that district. It took them a while to get to where they are now and it's just going to take some time for us as well!!! We WILL be a team that can beat The Woodlands one day! I just hope we can keep our chins up through these rough years and not ever become BAD SPORTS to our neighbors!!

Sorry!! Just had to vent!:mad:

[mcmullen82]

woods should win handily. nm. they already have

[twcpfan1]

I'm sure The Woodlands band and drill team officers were advised not to come over due to possible retaliation from the graffiti incident during the week.

I have to say, I have cheered for The Woodlands for so many years and watched my son play for 4 of them, but after this week the way some things have played out, I'm not sure if I ever want to cheer for them again. It's not just the sign incident, it's many things! I finally get to see what it's like to play against The Woodlands. It's just so sad to me that because some young men want to have a chance to participate in a football program (instead of standing on the side line until the last 6 mins of the game when they're winning by 30) that they had to go through what they went through this week. At my son's subvarsity game, we were down the whole game and our coaches were playing ALL the boys. The Woodlands 1st string quarterback played the entire game and their subs did't come in until mid 4th quarter from what I could tell.

As far as getting swept through all levels: we are still a young program. Many of our younger, more talented boys play up on varsity. Isn't our varsity running back a sophomore?

I remember when The Woodlands started out (I was in high school at a rival school) and they were getting their butts kicked by Conroe, Huntsville, and whoever else was in that district. It took them a while to get to where they are now and it's just going to take some time for us as well!!! We WILL be a team that can beat The Woodlands one day! I just hope we can keep our chins up through these rough years and not ever become BAD SPORTS to our neighbors!!

Sorry!! Just had to vent!:mad:

We are currently playing Running Backs by Committee. And yes. One of them is a Sophomore.

If the recruiting and other off-field business is kept on a level playing field, we should be able to compete with the Woodlands in the next couple of years.

[HUM398]

We are currently playing Running Backs by Committee. And yes. One of them is a Sophomore.

If the recruiting and other off-field business is kept on a level playing field, we should be able to compete with the Woodlands in the next couple of years.


I think it would of been closer if the QB would of stayed in. But we will never know. CP has a great program, and Carson is a great Coach. the CP community is very fourtunate to have landed such a good coach... he cares about your kids, and will do whats best for them as individuals and whats best for the team. i am def going to be attending CP games in coming years.

Carson teaches Boy how to become men. i really think CP will get a State title before Carson's regin is done.

Good Luck to CP in thier next game... Good luck to the seniors and that they may accomplish thier highest goals. And to the parents... Charish HS football, and your kids... You got a great thing going up there.

[HUM398]

I'm sure The Woodlands band and drill team officers were advised not to come over due to possible retaliation from the graffiti incident during the week.

I have to say, I have cheered for The Woodlands for so many years and watched my son play for 4 of them, but after this week the way some things have played out, I'm not sure if I ever want to cheer for them again. It's not just the sign incident, it's many things! I finally get to see what it's like to play against The Woodlands. It's just so sad to me that because some young men want to have a chance to participate in a football program (instead of standing on the side line until the last 6 mins of the game when they're winning by 30) that they had to go through what they went through this week. At my son's subvarsity game, we were down the whole game and our coaches were playing ALL the boys. The Woodlands 1st string quarterback played the entire game and their subs did't come in until mid 4th quarter from what I could tell.

As far as getting swept through all levels: we are still a young program. Many of our younger, more talented boys play up on varsity. Isn't our varsity running back a sophomore?

I remember when The Woodlands started out (I was in high school at a rival school) and they were getting their butts kicked by Conroe, Huntsville, and whoever else was in that district. It took them a while to get to where they are now and it's just going to take some time for us as well!!! We WILL be a team that can beat The Woodlands one day! I just hope we can keep our chins up through these rough years and not ever become BAD SPORTS to our neighbors!!

Sorry!! Just had to vent!:mad:

Dont sweat it... CP is a great program...and they will give the woodz whats coming to them. Its coming sooner then you think.

[GUNNER]

Dont sweat it... CP is a great program...and they will give the woodz whats coming to them. Its coming sooner then you think.
You think so?? Somebody said they won everygame from the 7th through varsity and it was some like 380-40?? Not to sure it will come for some time but you never know. If you think they are running up the score your wrong......... This is 5a football..............and they could of thrown the ball deep all night if they wanted!!! Hope Hay is ok he took a shot!!!!!

[twcpfan1]

You think so?? Somebody said they won everygame from the 7th through varsity and it was some like 380-40?? Not to sure it will come for some time but you never know. If you think they are running up the score your wrong......... This is 5a football..............and they could of thrown the ball deep all night if they wanted!!! Hope Hay is ok he took a shot!!!!!

I disagree. They were having so much success running the football. Like I said, they wouldn't even take a knee on the very last possession. They truly wanted to make a statement. I kept wondering when they were going to take the starters out. They finally did with about 5 mins to go. Can't really expect the backup to start throwing right off the bat. I have no problem with it. Even if they started throwing bombs all night, it's really up to our guys to stop it. But to suggest that they went easy on us at any point, is inaccurate.

Also, like Collegeparkmom says, we pretty much keep all our teams intact. They all have to move up one level with the number of seniors they're graduating. It might be closer accross the board next year.

[TWhoss13]

Did you really think TW was going to go easy on CP? from what I saw, CP loooked good... until the second half. TW has left there starters in until mid fourth quarter in every game this season that they have had a large margin of victory. Did you really expect TWH to treat CP any differently because they our neighbors?

[collegeparkmom]

They truly wanted to make a statement. I kept wondering when they were going to take the starters out. They finally did with about 5 mins to go.

They have done this forever! My son and MANY of his friends stood on that sideline many nights until mid 4th quarter, even when they were winning by 30+! They even stood on the sidelines 90% of the time OR until it was time to run during practices; they are not given a fair chance to develop or grow into their athleticism. The stars are picked in Jr High and freshman year and it goes from there! And no, my son did not suck! He almost broke a school record in one of their timed drills during his junior year, he was very fast but never really got the opportunity to show what he could do! By the time he was a junior his spirit was broke and he will tell you that he only stayed on the team to stay in shape!

That's what I like about Coach Carson, ALL boys are rotating in at practice! He does know his kids and he cares about each and everyone of them! He is a great coach!! I look forward to where he will take these kids in the future!!

[twcpfan1]

Did you really think TW was going to go easy on CP? from what I saw, CP loooked good... until the second half. TW has left there starters in until mid fourth quarter in every game this season that they have had a large margin of victory. Did you really expect TWH to treat CP any differently because they our neighbors?

Not at all. Not in the least. Nor should they ever go easy. Apart from last night, I've only seen TWHS twice this year. Both losing efforts. I've seen rivalry games between Conroe and TWHS in past years. I have never seen the Highlanders as pumped as they were last night. I was expecting it.

[collegeparkmom]

Did you really think TW was going to go easy on CP? from what I saw, CP loooked good... until the second half. TW has left there starters in until mid fourth quarter in every game this season that they have had a large margin of victory. Did you really expect TWH to treat CP any differently because they our neighbors?

NO! We were not expecting them to go easy on us on the field, but off the field??? Totally uncalled for, 5A football or not!!

[bigtexx]

cpmom if u didnt know thats what rivalries are be happy your part of one even though every cp school down to 7th grade got there butts handed to them and... no im not a woodlands fan so dont start complaining to me......also dont be mad at the woodlands for not playing your son they play the best players its 5a texas football not little league were everyone has to play for atleast half the game suck it up

and about the sign my bet is about 5 or so kids did it so to blame the whole school is idiotic

[bigtexx]

o and i watched this game cp had some cheaps shots against the woodz that #11 was a punk there #20 from the woodz down after the play for no reason so dont act like the cp kids are so innocent and the big bad woodlands is so mean and unfair

[twcpfan1]

They have done this forever! My son and MANY of his friends stood on that sideline many nights until mid 4th quarter, even when they were winning by 30+! They even stood on the sidelines 90% of the time OR until it was time to run during practices; they are not given a fair chance to develop or grow into their athleticism. The stars are picked in Jr High and freshman year and it goes from there! And no, my son did not suck! He almost broke a school record in one of their timed drills during his junior year, he was very fast but never really got the opportunity to show what he could do! By the time he was a junior his spirit was broke and he will tell you that he only stayed on the team to stay in shape!

That's what I like about Coach Carson, ALL boys are rotating in at practice! He does know his kids and he cares about each and everyone of them! He is a great coach!! I look forward to where he will take these kids in the future!!

I've read on other threads on this message board, specifically one that talks about what to name the new South County stadium, that the Quarterback Club has a major say on who starts and who doesn't. These are posts from people who have been involved in the program in some capacity. I'm not in a position to know whether these claims are accurate. But that would explain your son's situation. He and some others probably deserved to start or at least , get more playing time.

And speaking of the new stadium name, I've said in the past that I would not care one way or another if they name it after the former Woodlands HC. After this week, I'm no longer comfortable with it. And before anybody starts screaming 'sore loser' , it has nothing to do with last night's result. I've just heard a few more things about some ugliness that went on this week. Things that would make me uncomfortable to call a Stadium named after WW the Cavalier Home Field.

[twcpfan1]

o and i watched this game cp had some cheaps shots against the woodz that #11 was a punk there #20 from the woodz down after the play for no reason so dont act like the cp kids are so innocent and the big bad woodlands is so mean and unfair

I see you've re-surfaced again. I promised myself I wouldn't reply to any of your posts cause you're an idiot. Weren't you the one that called me names cause I suggested that we might be able to play with Conroe?

Don't call any of our players out on this board. That, I would take exception to. You can call me anything you like. Just not our kids.

[Buddy Moorehead]

im glad your son is at college park and getting some reps in the game and at practice. however, this is big time high school football. athletes are in their to compete. if your son cant compete at this level, go move to a 1A program where he could be a stud. even at the woodlands, many of those back ups could go and start at any other school. with a big school, you have a large talent pool and the best guy is going to play.
keep being satisfied with him rotating in cause the playoffs you'll be one week and done.

[collegeparkmom]

im glad your son is at college park and getting some reps in the game and at practice. however, this is big time high school football. athletes are in their to compete. if your son cant compete at this level, go move to a 1A program where he could be a stud. even at the woodlands, many of those back ups could go and start at any other school. with a big school, you have a large talent pool and the best guy is going to play.
keep being satisfied with him rotating in cause the playoffs you'll be one week and done.

Totally missing my point!! My CP son does not play on varsity! He plays on subvarsity where he is given a chance to improve and show what he's got! I'll be the first to admit that he's not good enough for varsity, but as he develops, and with some playing opportunities, maybe one day he'll be good enough to play well on varsity! When my other son was a highlander, he stood on the sidelines and watched the CHOSEN stars practice everyday and get better from the time he was in 8th grade!! All boys who show up everyday should have a chance to at least practice!!

[collegeparkmom]

cpmom if u didnt know thats what rivalries are be happy your part of one even though every cp school down to 7th grade got there butts handed to them and... no im not a woodlands fan so dont start complaining to me......also dont be mad at the woodlands for not playing your son they play the best players its 5a texas football not little league were everyone has to play for atleast half the game suck it up

and about the sign my bet is about 5 or so kids did it so to blame the whole school is idiotic


Also, totally missing my point!! Little league???...geez!

As I said before, it's not just about the SIGN!!!

[GUNNER]

They have done this forever! My son and MANY of his friends stood on that sideline many nights until mid 4th quarter, even when they were winning by 30+! They even stood on the sidelines 90% of the time OR until it was time to run during practices; they are not given a fair chance to develop or grow into their athleticism. The stars are picked in Jr High and freshman year and it goes from there! And no, my son did not suck! He almost broke a school record in one of their timed drills during his junior year, he was very fast but never really got the opportunity to show what he could do! By the time he was a junior his spirit was broke and he will tell you that he only stayed on the team to stay in shape!

That's what I like about Coach Carson, ALL boys are rotating in at practice! He does know his kids and he cares about each and everyone of them! He is a great coach!! I look forward to where he will take these kids in the future!!
CP plays many players partly because they cant find the right one to play or because of injury. DOnt be entirly fooled there are kids at CP that quit because they didnt get to play on the varsity... or not the starter..... If a coach cared he would keep them all on the team....... nobody just quits. If the kid cant wait his turn and quits well that is a shame.......... THE BEST KIDS play unfortunatly your kid may have not been the best kid. Or he was behind a kid that went to a DIV 1 College. Realize something the coaches see your son more than you do during football season and they obviously want the best athlete out there to make the team successful. CP mom you mention the off the field things ??? The sign thing? is there more?
I was at this game and I was truly impressed with the kids from both sides meeting at mid field shaking hands and hugging before they played and after the game the same thing along with all the Woodlands coaches shaking the hands and hugging the CP players what class they displayed. The CP coaches stood close to the sidelines mad and very unsportsmanlike. The woodlands has a class program and put the best on the field.. look at the defensive kids that play on offense...... BEST ATHLETES PLAY!

[collegeparkmom]

CP plays many players partly because they cant find the right one to play or because of injury. DOnt be entirly fooled there are kids at CP that quit because they didnt get to play on the varsity... or not the starter..... If a coach cared he would keep them all on the team....... nobody just quits. If the kid cant wait his turn and quits well that is a shame.......... THE BEST KIDS play unfortunatly your kid may have not been the best kid. Or he was behind a kid that went to a DIV 1 College. Realize something the coaches see your son more than you do during football season and they obviously want the best athlete out there to make the team successful. CP mom you mention the off the field things ??? The sign thing? is there more?
I was at this game and I was truly impressed with the kids from both sides meeting at mid field shaking hands and hugging before they played and after the game the same thing along with all the Woodlands coaches shaking the hands and hugging the CP players what class they displayed. The CP coaches stood close to the sidelines mad and very unsportsmanlike. The woodlands has a class program and put the best on the field.. look at the defensive kids that play on offense...... BEST ATHLETES PLAY!

Let's just say, the beautiful sign coming into the school and the word that was written on the road leading into the school, cleaned up REALLY well!! I'm just proud our guys didn't retaliate!! You know how kids are; act first, think later! Even when a highlander subvarsity player said (ON the field), "How'd you like the sign?", our boys held their cool.

And, I agree, the best atheletes should play, we ALL want to win!!! I'm not arguing that at all!!;)

[GUNNER]

Let's just say, the beautiful sign coming into the school and the word that was written on the road leading into the school, cleaned up REALLY well!! I'm just proud our guys didn't retaliate!! You know how kids are; act first, think later! Even when a highlander subvarsity player said (ON the field), "How'd you like the sign?", our boys held their cool.

And, I agree, the best atheletes should play, we ALL want to win!!! I'm not arguing that at all!!;)
You are right kids do some crazy things....... I did hear the woodlands sign got hit the next day..... The sign thing was horrible......... Good luck next week.

[collegeparkmom]

You are right kids do some crazy things....... I did hear the woodlands sign got hit the next day..... The sign thing was horrible......... Good luck next week.

I hadn't heard that!! What a shame and here I was bragging about our boys! Oh well, like I said, they are kids!! My son was home last night!!!

Thanks!!!

[Leander 6136]

TWHS won 33-7. Our QB, Hay had to leave the game early in the 1st. I heard they also swept JV, Freshmen and all Junior High games. Congratulations to the Woodlands. They were certainly on a mission this week. They sent the message that they are going to take this rivalry seriously and it's not going to be a friendly one. The band and drill team officers never came over to our side for the traditional introductions. Don't quite know what was behind that. They played harder against College Park tonight than they have all year. They wouldn't even take a knee on the last possession with a 33-7 lead. A lot of what went on, on the field tonight was a little disappointing. It wouldn't be appropriate to call anybody out but anybody that was there tonight would probably know what I'm talking about. It was a great atmosphere tonight. Moorehead was busting at the seams. The Cavs looked overwhelmed by the ocassion. Somebody whipped Highlander Nation into such a frenzied state this week. I imagine they wanted to send a message to the kids who chose not to stay when College Park was built. Somebody even vandalized College Park earlier this week sending that exact message.

The Woodlands DB's and WR's played great tonight. Skaufel looked like he was making every tackle tonight. The OL did a great job protecting Parsons. Parsons looks great when he gets a little time to throw the ball. If the OL can give him that time, he'll do great in the playoffs. Class guy too. I observed the way he conducted himself during the post game greetings

Again, congratulations to the Woodlands. Looking forward to this time next year



I am really sorry to hear about Justin Hay having to leave the game. He is a former Leander player that played with my son from 8th grade through soph year on jv. He is a great kid that I saw develop from a little squirt that couldn't see over the o-line to a pretty good QB. I was proud to hear about his success at CP and hope that it is nothing too serious.

[twhfan#1]

I see you've re-surfaced again. I promised myself I wouldn't reply to any of your posts cause you're an idiot. Weren't you the one that called me names cause I suggested that we might be able to play with Conroe?

Don't call any of our players out on this board. That, I would take exception to. You can call me anything you like. Just not our kids.

Good possibilty that the FB players from EITHER team didnt do the vandalism. Even a possibilty it could have been from another school wanting to cause problems between the 2 Woodlands schools --it has happened before

Dont get me wrong -- the defacing of school property can not be tolerated -- whoever involved should be made to pay for repair / replacement , face criminal charges , & be suspended from school ( if they are students )

Believe it or not -- high school coaches get paid to win -- so the are going to play the best available player -- regardless of booster club desires.

Also -- before you start up on the stadium name again -- GUESS WHAT -- Weldon Willig had nothing to do with the sign , the conduct of the CP game , or who plays for TWH -- he was out of town --plus golly gee --HE HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR 3 YEARS

I had respect for you and your posts CAVALIERDAD --until you started this line of BS

[twcpfan1]

Good possibilty that the FB players from EITHER team didnt do the vandalism. Even a possibilty it could have been from another school wanting to cause problems between the 2 Woodlands schools --it has happened before

Dont get me wrong -- the defacing of school property can not be tolerated -- whoever involved should be made to pay for repair / replacement , face criminal charges , & be suspended from school ( if they are students )

Believe it or not -- high school coaches get paid to win -- so the are going to play the best available player -- regardless of booster club desires.

Also -- before you start up on the stadium name again -- GUESS WHAT -- Weldon Willig had nothing to do with the sign , the conduct of the CP game , or who plays for TWH -- he was out of town --plus golly gee --HE HAS BEEN RETIRED FOR 3 YEARS

I had respect for you and your posts CAVALIERDAD --until you started this line of BS

I was in no way referring to the sign. There were other things that went on earlier in the week that culminated in some unpleasantness during the game on and off the field. I do not care to discuss them in an open forum with the hope that it will all dissipate. I know he's been retired for 3 years but isn't the program run by his former assistants now? In any case, my whole point is, I do not think the College Park community would be comfortable if their new home field is named after the former TWHS HC. That is just my opinion. Whether the discomfort is justified or not, is another matter.

I do not know the inner workings of the quarterback club or The Woodlands football program. I think I was clear enough in that post when I said that I read it here and there was no way for me to know whether the claims were valid.

I heard they caught the vandals. I heard they were not kids from another school.

Not sure why you decided to quote that particular post. I think you meant to quote the one that you seemed to be replying to.

[twhfan#1]

I was in no way referring to the sign. There were other things that went on earlier in the week that culminated in some unpleasantness during the game on and off the field. I do not care to discuss them in an open forum with the hope that it will all dissipate. I know he's been retired for 3 years but isn't the program run by his former assistants now? In any case, my whole point is, I do not think the College Park community would be comfortable if their new home field is named after the former TWHS HC. That is just my opinion. Whether the discomfort is justified or not, is another matter.

I do not know the inner workings of the quarterback club or The Woodlands football program. I think I was clear enough in that post when I said that I read it here and there was no way for me to know whether the claims were valid.

I heard they caught the vandals. I heard they were not kids from another school.

Not sure why you decided to quote that particular post. I think you meant to quote the one that you seemed to be replying to.

whatever -- part of my response was was meant for Collegeparkmom -- but you brought up that originally you had no problem with name of stadium but now because of this week problem you think it shouldnt be named after WW --that is why I put the smart A** remarkk about him being out of town

any thing that happened bewteen CP & TWH is mild compared to the early days of Conroe / TWH

[twcpfan1]

whatever -- part of my response was was meant for Collegeparkmom -- but you brought up that originally you had no problem with name of stadium but now because of this week problem you think it shouldnt be named after WW --that is why I put the smart A** remarkk about him being out of town

any thing that happened bewteen CP & TWH is mild compared to the early days of Conroe / TWH

At this point, the less said about the happenings of this week, the better. We do not want this to escalate to what you were referring to when McCullough started their program. So I'll end it on a positive note.

The Woodlands pro style offense is fun to watch when it's clicking. I think they have been flying under the radar since the early losses. I think they'll do better in the playoffs than most people think. If they can protect Parsons, they will be tough. The D is self explanatory. If they do not have to be out on the field an excessive amount of time, they can be quite dominant

[twcpfan1]

I am really sorry to hear about Justin Hay having to leave the game. He is a former Leander player that played with my son from 8th grade through soph year on jv. He is a great kid that I saw develop from a little squirt that couldn't see over the o-line to a pretty good QB. I was proud to hear about his success at CP and hope that it is nothing too serious.

He has had a great year, and a very big part of College Park's successful first season in 5a. Didn't realize he was from Leander though. Great athlete. Very quick. They started calling a few more passing plays for him recently too which I'm happy about. Cause I think he's got a pretty good arm.

[twcpfan1]

You are right kids do some crazy things....... I did hear the woodlands sign got hit the next day..... The sign thing was horrible......... Good luck next week.

I had not heard that there was retaliation. Not saying it didn't happen. I'm sure something will be said about it, if in fact it did happen.

[Player1]

I think its not fair to point fingers at anyone for the sign. It could have been the chess club for all we know.

The name of the new stadium shouldn't concern how CP feels about it. The woodlands has worked MANY years to get where they are, starting from scratch. I think they diserve their own stadium after all these years. If college park wants a stadium with their name on it, there going to have work for it. Just because ya'll are called THE WOODLANDS college park doesn't mean you diserve the respect the woodlands has.

[Kilt-Boy]

The name of the new stadium shouldn't concern how CP feels about it. The woodlands has worked MANY years to get where they are, starting from scratch. I think they diserve their own stadium after all these years. If college park wants a stadium with their name on it, there going to have work for it. Just because ya'll are called THE WOODLANDS college park doesn't mean you diserve the respect the woodlands has.

:confused: :confused: Hold on there Skippy, without the CP and OR folks the vote on the stadium could have failed.

[wonka38]

I hate to drag this nonsense out any further, but I just wanted to clarify a few things about this whole CP - TWHS mess:

1. Yes, TWHS sign was vandalized Thursday night.

2. Seems now that the College Park sign was vandalized by CP students.

3. The game Friday night was not even nearly as close as the 33-7 score indicates. Evident by the 300 - 71 difference in total yardage.
The speed difference was strikingly obvious between CP's offense and TWHS' defense.

4. Most of the trash talking going on seemed to come from CP's #11 - what's his deal? (By the way - I don't think he caught a pass)

5. Subvarsity results were incredibly lopsided in favor of TWHS - something like 248 - 32 - It might be a long while before this rivalry is actually competitive.

6. Not sure what Weldon Willig or the stadium name has to do with any of this?????

[nonamesleft]

I've read on other threads on this message board, specifically one that talks about what to name the new South County stadium, that the Quarterback Club has a major say on who starts and who doesn't. These are posts from people who have been involved in the program in some capacity. I'm not in a position to know whether these claims are accurate. But that would explain your son's situation. He and some others probably deserved to start or at least , get more playing time.

And speaking of the new stadium name, I've said in the past that I would not care one way or another if they name it after the former Woodlands HC. After this week, I'm no longer comfortable with it. And before anybody starts screaming 'sore loser' , it has nothing to do with last night's result. I've just heard a few more things about some ugliness that went on this week. Things that would make me uncomfortable to call a Stadium named after WW the Cavalier Home Field.

Are you serious? CP is benifiting from Willig without even realizing it. He is one of the reasons the Woodlands produces on of the best football teams year in and year out, and one of the main reasons the Woodlands grew the way it did. Not only that, he is a great man of character and taught all his players that first. When you have five thousand high schoolers, some of them arent gonna be little angels. Just look at CP, wait how many kids got kicked off last year for coming to school drunk???

And CPmom, thats too bad about your son, but thats one of the things that makes TWH so good. It is so competitive that they it creates better players, and a ton of depth that most teams dont have. When you ahve a thousand kids in the program from JH up, some kids are going to get overlooked, its just a fact.

[Player1]

:confused: :confused: Hold on there Skippy, without the CP and OR folks the vote on the stadium could have failed.

Well there skipppp. If there was no college park, those votes would have been woodlands votes anyways. I don't really care what the name is, i just don't think its fair college park has a say in it at all. They just built a huge castle for a school.

[unbiasedobserver]

Are College Park and Oak Ridge residents now exempt from Property Taxes? Maybe I nedd to move.

[Westfield Fan]

wow....anyone who thinks college park has a chance doesn't know anything about football. Woodlands gets the shaft because of their record. They played Lufkin, SV, Katy, and Northshore. So they lost to the best 5a teams in the state, doesn't make college park worthy of beating them at all. CP offense has NO chance against woodlands defense, plain and simple.

If woodlands had a easier schedule in the pre-season and won those games, they would probably be 7-1 with a loss to Lufkin. Then i guarantee no one would give college park a chance at winning this game.

Boo hoo hoo! The Woods had a tough schedule. No stuff. So did a lot of other schools. TW was predicted to be one of the top teams in the area. I admit Lufkin, SV, KT, and NS are tough teams to play but if you want to be a powerhouse you have to win against teams like these. TW should have won at least two of the four. Personally, I think TW are over rated. You guys are not as good as your were two or three seasons ago. Right now TW is an average team who need to play other average to mediocre teams to win.

Westfield lost 42 seniors from '05 squad, we have 3 starters from last season. We have not played top 5 teams as TW, but we have played some very good teams. Cy Falls, Klein, Klein Forest, and Beaumont Westbrook.
Sportswriters didn't think we would make to the PO this season.

Don't blame the schedule, blame TW players and coaches.

BTW - CP by 10 over TW

[twcpfan1]

I hate to drag this nonsense out any further, but I just wanted to clarify a few things about this whole CP - TWHS mess:

1. Yes, TWHS sign was vandalized Thursday night.

2. Seems now that the College Park sign was vandalized by CP students.

3. The game Friday night was not even nearly as close as the 33-7 score indicates. Evident by the 300 - 71 difference in total yardage.
The speed difference was strikingly obvious between CP's offense and TWHS' defense.

4. Most of the trash talking going on seemed to come from CP's #11 - what's his deal? (By the way - I don't think he caught a pass)

5. Subvarsity results were incredibly lopsided in favor of TWHS - something like 248 - 32 - It might be a long while before this rivalry is actually competitive.

6. Not sure what Weldon Willig or the stadium name has to do with any of this?????

You didn't want to drag any of this out??? You could have fooled me.

They caught the vandals. They were not from CP

TWHS won by as many pts as they could. For anybody to suggest that they went easy at any time during the game, is idiotic. If that's all they can manage against a 1st year varsity team whose starting QB had to leave the game early, live with it.

I'm not sure where you get off calling one of our kids out on this message board. It's absolutely classless to do that to a young kid. But if you insist on playing that game, at least call out the punks on the other side too. There have been many. past and present. Under the current and past HC.

[twcpfan1]

Are you serious? CP is benifiting from Willig without even realizing it. He is one of the reasons the Woodlands produces on of the best football teams year in and year out, and one of the main reasons the Woodlands grew the way it did. Not only that, he is a great man of character and taught all his players that first. When you have five thousand high schoolers, some of them arent gonna be little angels. Just look at CP, wait how many kids got kicked off last year for coming to school drunk???

And CPmom, thats too bad about your son, but thats one of the things that makes TWH so good. It is so competitive that they it creates better players, and a ton of depth that most teams dont have. When you ahve a thousand kids in the program from JH up, some kids are going to get overlooked, its just a fact.

Willig retired 3 years ago. How many of CP varsity players have even met him. You're going to need to fill me in on this..Apart from the State Finals appearance in '03, what has the Woodlands done any other year in the playoffs to warrant the description 'one of the best football teams year in year out'. That's a serious question. Cause I can only remember back to 01 when they won 2 playoff games. Somebody check me here...02 - out first round...03- state finals. 04 - out 2nd round. 05 - out first round...Having said that, and inspite of what people think, I think this year may be a good one for them.

So how have they done since say..1996?

[twhfan#1]

Willig retired 3 years ago. How many of CP varsity players have even met him. You're going to need to fill me in on this..Apart from the State Finals appearance in '03, what has the Woodlands done any other year in the playoffs to warrant the description 'one of the best football teams year in year out'. That's a serious question. Cause I can only remember back to 01 when they won 2 playoff games. Somebody check me here...02 - out first round...03- state finals. 04 - out 2nd round. 05 - out first round...Having said that, and inspite of what people think, I think this year may be a good one for them.

So how have they done since say..1996?

made playoffs 12 years in a row now --means some of the CP players that were in mabe Lamar Elem were just kindergarten kids last time TWH didnt make PO -- hope CP does just as well -- until then --you have a long way to go

[twcpfan1]

made playoffs 12 years in a row now --means some of the CP players that were in mabe Lamar Elem were just kindergarten kids last time TWH didnt make PO -- hope CP does just as well -- until then --you have a long way to go

Thanks for the info. I hope CP does well too. If TWHS takes care of business against Magnolia on Thursday, then CP are in the playoffs no matter what happens against ORHS. Yeah they have a long way to go, but I'm almost sure they've had a better first year in varsity than McCullough did. When was their first year, by the way? What class were they in? And who was in their District? And how did they do that year?

[leda08]

So how have they done since say..1996?

2000 they did alot! Lost a close game to Midland Lee in the State Semi-Finals. I don't remember the exact score but it was something like 17-3. Midland Lee went on to beat Austin Westlake in the State game pretty handily.

FYI The Woodlands was the only team that year to hold Cedric Benson to under 100 yards.

[twhfan#1]

Willig retired 3 years ago. How many of CP varsity players have even met him. You're going to need to fill me in on this..Apart from the State Finals appearance in '03, what has the Woodlands done any other year in the playoffs to warrant the description 'one of the best football teams year in year out'. That's a serious question. Cause I can only remember back to 01 when they won 2 playoff games. Somebody check me here...02 - out first round...03- state finals. 04 - out 2nd round. 05 - out first round...Having said that, and inspite of what people think, I think this year may be a good one for them.

So how have they done since say..1996?

to be specific --over 29 seasons ( including this year ) --TWH is 210-102-7 ( 67 % ) --made playoffs 20 times

up to this season TWH has been eliminated 7 times after round 1 ---- 6times after Round 2 ---- 4 times after Round 3 ---- 1 time after round 4 --- 1 time after Round 5 --- this yr TBD

you asked for PO since 96 ----

96 - 97 --- Round 1
98 -------- Round 2
99 -------- Round 3
00 -------- Round 4
01 -------- Round 3
02 -------- Round 2
03 -------- Round 5 ( State game )
04 -------- Round 2
05 --------- Round 1

CP has a better start than TWH --- but when TWH started in 78 ---only 1 team made PO --- then a couple years later it was 2 --then several years after that it was 3 --- now it is 4


Like the sports reporters were remarking after Nolan Ryan retired about who would break his all-time strike-out record --- come see me in about 15 years & we will see who ( CP ? )comes close

[twcpfan1]

2000 they did alot! Lost a close game to Midland Lee in the State Semi-Finals. I don't remember the exact score but it was something like 17-3. Midland Lee went on to beat Austin Westlake in the State game pretty handily.

FYI The Woodlands was the only team that year to hold Cedric Benson to under 100 yards.

Ok cool. Thanks. I knew they played against Cedric Benson one year. Didn't realize it was the semis and wasn't sure what year it was.

[nonamesleft]

Thanks for the info. I hope CP does well too. If TWHS takes care of business against Magnolia on Thursday, then CP are in the playoffs no matter what happens against ORHS. Yeah they have a long way to go, but I'm almost sure they've had a better first year in varsity than McCullough did. When was their first year, by the way? What class were they in? And who was in their District? And how did they do that year?


Are you serious? Why do you think they have had a better first year than McC did? Probably because when McC first began they were a school that fed from an almost brand new community with a very small talent base. Willig brought them from nothing to a powerhouse that goes to the playoffs every year, and produces a ton of D-1 talent. You can not say just because TWH has not won a state title yet they are not a powerhouse. State titles do not come easy, for example it took Highland Park over 50 years to reach the state title again last year. Football-wise besides TWH itself, CP has benifited most from The Woods success drawing in very good talent to the area and helping the community of The Woodlands grow.

By the way i dont want to trash anyone on this board, but #11 does need an attitude adjustment very badly. Hopefully Carson will take care of it.

[twcpfan1]

Are you serious? Why do you think they have had a better first year than McC did? Probably because when McC first began they were a school that fed from an almost brand new community with a very small talent base. Willig brought them from nothing to a powerhouse that goes to the playoffs every year, and produces a ton of D-1 talent. You can not say just because TWH has not won a state title yet they are not a powerhouse. State titles do not come easy, for example it took Highland Park over 50 years to reach the state title again last year. Football-wise besides TWH itself, CP has benifited most from The Woods success drawing in very good talent to the area and helping the community of The Woodlands grow.

By the way i dont want to trash anyone on this board, but #11 does need an attitude adjustment very badly. Hopefully Carson will take care of it.

Ok . you're not telling me anything I don't already know...I was actually asking for information cause I was interested...nothing more. I don't know how McCullough did their first year..Do you know??? Maybe you can help me out. Were they in 5a? How big was the school back then? Who was in their district???

I'm sure Coach Carson will take care of it if in fact there is a problem. I still think it's inappropriate to call High School players out on this board.

[nonamesleft]

Ok . you're not telling me anything I don't already know...I was actually asking for information cause I was interested...nothing more. I don't know how McCullough did their first year..Do you know??? Maybe you can help me out. Were they in 5a? How big was the school back then? Who was in their district???

I'm sure Coach Carson will take care of it if in fact there is a problem. I still think it's inappropriate to call High School players out on this board.


Im not sure what McC was but I know they were not very good their first year, Conroe pretty much dominated them in the early years.


In NOT calling out anyone on this board, I am just stating what I saw at a the game on friday, and what I've heard from players. I hope the kid gets it straight cause he could be a very good player if he does. Ive seen a ton of kids at TWH have attitude problems and it terribly inhibits their ablility. good luck to ya'll in the playoffs!

[twhfan#1]

Thanks for the info. I hope CP does well too. If TWHS takes care of business against Magnolia on Thursday, then CP are in the playoffs no matter what happens against ORHS. Yeah they have a long way to go, but I'm almost sure they've had a better first year in varsity than McCullough did. When was their first year, by the way? What class were they in? And who was in their District? And how did they do that year?

1978 first yr --went 2-8 , 2-4 in district ( 5A)

District :

Humble
Jersey Village ------ WIN
Klein -------------- WIN
Spring
Cy-Fair
Conroe

Notice --only 1 Klein school ( now 4 ), 2 CY-Fair ( 8 now ) , 1 Spring ( 2 now --3 next yr ), 1 Humble ( 3 now ), 2 Conroe ( 5 now )

[Kilt-Boy]

I'm sure Coach Carson will take care of it if in fact there is a problem.

In this instance, IT will be tolerated. The actions in question have been a part of "said player's" personna since I can remember. :(

[GUNNER]

Im not sure what McC was but I know they were not very good their first year, Conroe pretty much dominated them in the early years.


In NOT calling out anyone on this board, I am just stating what I saw at a the game on friday, and what I've heard from players. I hope the kid gets it straight cause he could be a very good player if he does. Ive seen a ton of kids at TWH have attitude problems and it terribly inhibits their ablility. good luck to ya'll in the playoffs!
Doubt he gets an attitude adjustment....... kids at IKE acted like that all the time and if they were good they played no matter what attitude.......
WHo will be the QB this week? The 2nd teamer looked like he didnt want any or was not sure how to run the offense???? WIll you beat Oak Ridge?

Sign-- Cav dad do you have something to hide? sounds like you know and want it to go away....
Its to bad kids do silly things, I remember things like that in high school but not to the monetary damage as the sign.
Playoffs- its great CP is in but please don't try to compare to the Woodlands success as of yet.........The district you guys are in is terrible..... 2 good teams and 4 cellar teams....... for the 2 bottom teams its one and done for sure. for the woodlands it could be the same. but I could see them going 3 rounds deep if the cards fall correct. Klein forest aint no slouch!!!! I would compare them to The Woodlands or Lamar COnsolidated. Ouch!

[bigtexx]

from what i heartwhs feild was vandalized over the weekend by cp.... funny thing is you dont hear any woodlands mom whining about it :eek:

[twcpfan1]

Doubt he gets an attitude adjustment....... kids at IKE acted like that all the time and if they were good they played no matter what attitude.......
WHo will be the QB this week? The 2nd teamer looked like he didnt want any or was not sure how to run the offense???? WIll you beat Oak Ridge?

Sign-- Cav dad do you have something to hide? sounds like you know and want it to go away....
Its to bad kids do silly things, I remember things like that in high school but not to the monetary damage as the sign.
Playoffs- its great CP is in but please don't try to compare to the Woodlands success as of yet.........The district you guys are in is terrible..... 2 good teams and 4 cellar teams....... for the 2 bottom teams its one and done for sure. for the woodlands it could be the same. but I could see them going 3 rounds deep if the cards fall correct. Klein forest aint no slouch!!!! I would compare them to The Woodlands or Lamar COnsolidated. Ouch!

About the sign, I've just heard what was said in conversation between friends from both schools that the kids were caught. I don't know names or anything. Nor do I want to know. The whole thing is sad. What are you trying to imply anyway?

Ok before the season started, you guys were saying we were crap and wouldn't win a game. After going 3-0, we didn't play anybody and that We'd be crushed by Conroe etc etc. Now that we're pretty much a certainty to make the playoffs after beating Conroe, it's the terrible district...Now you're pointing out that Klein Forest are pretty good and that we would lose to them...HELLO!!!!!....CP are in their first year!!! Am I missing something?? Did somebody tell you we would win state or something???

[GUNNER]

About the sign, I've just heard what was said in conversation between friends from both schools that the kids were caught. I don't know names or anything. Nor do I want to know. The whole thing is sad. What are you trying to imply anyway?

Ok before the season started, you guys were saying we were crap and wouldn't win a game. After going 3-0, we didn't play anybody and that We'd be crushed by Conroe etc etc. Now that we're pretty much a certainty to make the playoffs after beating Conroe, it's the terrible district...Now you're pointing out that Klein Forest are pretty good and that we would lose to them...HELLO!!!!!....CP are in their first year!!! Am I missing something?? Did somebody tell you we would win state or something???
Good luck! I guess we need to wish you the best no matter who you beat in and out of district...... Just know your place in the Woodlands!

[twhfan#1]

from what i heartwhs feild was vandalized over the weekend by cp.... funny thing is you dont hear any woodlands mom whining about it :eek:

This thread needs to be closed --bad vibes started when CavilierDad & College ParkMom complained about the vandalism , tWH running up score , and poor sportsmanship

Well -- looks like enough blame on BOTH sides -- I was hoping the new CP / TWH rivalry would be spirited but friendly ---- Conroe has to be lapping this up --laughing at both Woodlands schools. CP needs to be aware that you will be shafted by the powers to be in Conroe after the new wears off --they were hoping for a split that they could win against

This split is unique in CISD ---even though McC ( TWH ) split from Conroe --there was never a community of interest --the river is like a "no-man's land " --- when OR split from McC they went 4A so no rivalry ever bulit up-- same thing when Caney Creek split from Conroe

CP / TWH is the first real community that has been split -- the 2 schools need to compete fairly with each other-- but provide a united front to the
rest of the district

So lets be cool

[GUNNER]

This thread needs to be closed --bad vibes started when CavilierDad & College ParkMom complained about the vandalism , tWH running up score , and poor sportsmanship

Well -- looks like enough blame on BOTH sides -- I was hoping the new CP / TWH rivalry would be spirited but friendly ---- Conroe has to be lapping this up --laughing at both Woodlands schools. CP needs to be aware that you will be shafted by the powers to be in Conroe after the new wears off --they were hoping for a split that they could win against

This split is unique in CISD ---even though McC ( TWH ) split from Conroe --there was never a community of interest --the river is like a "no-man's land " --- when OR split from McC they went 4A so no rivalry ever bulit up-- same thing when Caney Creek split from Conroe

CP / TWH is the first real community that has been split -- the 2 schools need to compete fairly with each other-- but provide a united front to the
rest of the district

So lets be cool
I agree TWHS lets all be cool and cheer for each team and kids to be successful

[twcpfan1]

This thread needs to be closed --bad vibes started when CavilierDad & College ParkMom complained about the vandalism , tWH running up score , and poor sportsmanship

Well -- looks like enough blame on BOTH sides -- I was hoping the new CP / TWH rivalry would be spirited but friendly ---- Conroe has to be lapping this up --laughing at both Woodlands schools. CP needs to be aware that you will be shafted by the powers to be in Conroe after the new wears off --they were hoping for a split that they could win against

This split is unique in CISD ---even though McC ( TWH ) split from Conroe --there was never a community of interest --the river is like a "no-man's land " --- when OR split from McC they went 4A so no rivalry ever bulit up-- same thing when Caney Creek split from Conroe

CP / TWH is the first real community that has been split -- the 2 schools need to compete fairly with each other-- but provide a united front to the
rest of the district

So lets be cool

Great Post. Although I doubt if Conroe are in any kind of mood to be laughing at anything right now. I've always wished for this rivalry to be friendly. If you've noticed I've never hesitated to express my support for the Highlanders, even on this thread. I've always said they are a legit top 25, may be even top 15 team. But as a parent, I will always defend a kid who gets trashed publicly on this board. No matter which Woodlands team he plays for.

[GUNNER]

Great Post. Although I doubt if Conroe are in any kind of mood to be laughing at anything right now. I've always wished for this rivalry to be friendly. If you've noticed I've never hesitated to express my support for the Highlanders, even on this thread. I've always said they are a legit top 25, may be even top 15 team. But as a parent, I will always defend a kid who gets trashed publicly on this board. No matter which Woodlands team he plays for.
I agree Cav Dad you have been politically correct and not bashed...... Good luck to you and the cavs......... THe woods wants you to win so then can play Klein... I think.

[leda08]

This is off topic, but i was unable to attend the game last weekend and was wondering what the crowd was like at Morehead? Was it completely full? End zone seats?

[twcpfan1]

I agree Cav Dad you have been politically correct and not bashed...... Good luck to you and the cavs......... THe woods wants you to win so then can play Klein... I think.

You're absolutely right. A CP win would mean Lufkin goes D2 , and The Woodlands would match up with Klein. And a 1-4 Conroe team would make the playoffs and match up against Westfield.

[twcpfan1]

This is off topic, but i was unable to attend the game last weekend and was wondering what the crowd was like at Morehead? Was it completely full? End zone seats?

It was full on both sides. Not sure if they were making the end zone seats available though. I really didn't notice

[leda08]

I remember back in 2003 when TWHS made their run to the State game they had to bring in temporary end zone seats about half way through the season. Most home games the West side was completely full along with the end zone seats, and even some games like Spring and Klein Forest The Woodlands fans filled the east side!

I figured this game would pack morehead, it's good to see that TWCP has a strong following in its first year!

[twcpfan1]

I remember back in 2003 when TWHS made their run to the State game they had to bring in temporary end zone seats about half way through the season. Most home games the West side was completely full along with the end zone seats, and even some games like Spring and Klein Forest The Woodlands fans filled the east side!

I figured this game would pack morehead, it's good to see that TWCP has a strong following in its first year!

When you take everything into account, this week was a great one for the Community.

[TWhoss13]

CMON CP BEAT OAKRIDGE!

woodlands would benifit greatly

[twcpfan1]

CMON CP BEAT OAKRIDGE!

woodlands would benifit greatly

I wouldn't necessarily count out The Woodands even if they had to play Westfield. I honestly think they'll win 3 games at least.

[leda08]

TWCP needs to put The Woodlands game behind them and focus on OR!

[woodlands2]

Thanks for the info. I hope CP does well too. If TWHS takes care of business against Magnolia on Thursday, then CP are in the playoffs no matter what happens against ORHS. Yeah they have a long way to go, but I'm almost sure they've had a better first year in varsity than McCullough did. When was their first year, by the way? What class were they in? And who was in their District? And how did they do that year?

the woodlands first year at mccullough was '78. missed playoffs first 3 years but then went undefeated in district in '81 and lost in the first round

district '78 (2-8) overall
klein L
cy-fair L
spring W
conroe L
jersey village W
galena park L

district '81 (9-2) overall
klein
cy-fair
spring
conroe
westfield
klein forest
cy-creek

woodlands all-time record 215-106-7 (including this year) made playoffs 20/28 years counting this year

[leda08]

woodlands all-time record 215-106-7 (including this year) made playoffs 20/28 years counting this year

That's pretty impressive!

[twcpfan1]

That's pretty impressive!

Absolutely. They are in very elite company. Below, I pulled some figures from the 'Consecutive Playoff Appearances' thread. Thanks to the poster who shared it. WOS87

And I quote:

Only 38 teams have qualified for the last 3 consecutive 5A playoffs

Longest Active Streaks of Consecutive 5A Playoff Appearances
(This list was compiled using only largest classification playoff records)

16 in a row 1990-2005
Dallas Carter

15 in a row 1991-2005
Katy

12 in a row 1994-2005
Galena Park North Shore
Dallas Skyline
Austin Westlake

11 in a row 1995-2005
The Woodlands/Conroe McCullough

10 in a row 1996-2005
El Paso Franklin
De Soto

9 in a row 1997-2005
Plano East

8 in a row 1998-2005
Lufkin
Euless Trinity

7 in a row 1999-2005
Lubbock Monterey
Allen
Abilene

6 in a row 2000-2005
Pflugerville
Pearland
Laredo Nixon
Houston Lamar
Harlingen

5 in a row 2001-2005
San Antonio Madison
Longview
Houston Westside

4 in a row 2002-2005
Southlake Carroll
Smithson Valley
San Marcos
Irving MacArthur
Garland

3 in a row 2003-2005
South Garland
Schertz Clemens
San Antonio O'Connor
San Angelo Central
Richardson Berkner
Midland Lee
La Porte
Hays Consolidated
Fort Bend Marshall
Fort Bend Kempner
Aldine Nimitz

As far as all-time streaks past and present Highland Park held the record for consecutive playoff appearances in the largest classification for over 35 years starting from 1950 (the year they qualified for their 10th consecutive postseason appearance) all the way until 1985 when Temple was the first large school to tie the record and then Houston Yates surpassed it in 1987. Since 1985 a total of 23 different teams have equalled or surpassed Highland Park's longstanding record (ALL 23 of them with the aid of 2nd and 3rd playoff teams being allowed in).

To date, NO team has yet matched Highland Park's feat and been the #1 seed from their district in the playoffs for 10 straight years in the largest classification as Highland Park was back in the 40's. Yates did it 9 years straight 1977-1985 as did Westlake 1994-2002 and Katy had a streak of 8 from 1994-2001 as did Judson 1986-1993 but no large school has hit 10.

Among all classifications, Gregory-Portland 1969-1980 (1 year in 4A and 11 years in 3A), Austin Westlake 1991-2002 (3 years in 4A, 9 years in 5A) and Pilot Point 1979-1990 (1 year in 1A and 11 years in 2A) each have streaks of 12 consecutive years as #1 playoff seeds and those are the longest I know of statewide. The longest current streak in 5A belongs to North Shore which will claim it's 6th consecutive #1 seed in 2006.

All-Time Longest Consecutive Playoff Appearance Streaks in the Largest Classification 1920-2005

27 consecutive years
Houston Yates 1977-2003

17 consecutive years
Converse Judson 1982-1998

16 consecutive years
Dallas Carter 1990-2005

15 consecutive years
Katy 1991-2005

14 consecutive years
Houston Madison 1989-2002

13 consecutive years
Arlington Lamar 1988-2000

12 consecutive years
Austin Westlake 1994-2005
Dallas Skyline 1994-2005
Galena Park North Shore 1994-2005
Abilene Cooper 1992-2003
Amarillo 1992-2003
Dallas Kimball 1990-2001
Houston Lamar 1987-1998

11 consecutive years
The Woodlands 1995-2005
Lewisville 1991-2001

10 consecutive years
De Soto 1996-2005
El Paso Franklin 1996-2005
Humble 1994-2003
Lake Highlands 1989-1998
Fort Bend Willowridge 1985-1994
San Antonio Clark 1982-1991
El Paso Bel Air 1977-1986
Temple 1976-1985
Highland Park 1941-1950 - UIL Record from 1950-1987

[wonka38]

The streak of 12 playoff years in a row is especially impressive when you consider that in most of those years TW was in one of the more competitive districts in the state with the Kleins, Spring, Westfield, and now Lufkin. Some of the schools with longer playoff streaks like Westlake were in a weak district.

Still, a state championship is missing - that is obviously the next step - the split will make that a more difficult challenge, however, there are some great athletes coming up so who knows - after all, TWHS still is one of the larger schools in the state.

[Player1]

Boo hoo hoo! The Woods had a tough schedule. No stuff. So did a lot of other schools. TW was predicted to be one of the top teams in the area. I admit Lufkin, SV, KT, and NS are tough teams to play but if you want to be a powerhouse you have to win against teams like these. TW should have won at least two of the four. Personally, I think TW are over rated. You guys are not as good as your were two or three seasons ago. Right now TW is an average team who need to play other average to mediocre teams to win.

Westfield lost 42 seniors from '05 squad, we have 3 starters from last season. We have not played top 5 teams as TW, but we have played some very good teams. Cy Falls, Klein, Klein Forest, and Beaumont Westbrook.
Sportswriters didn't think we would make to the PO this season.

Don't blame the schedule, blame TW players and coaches.

BTW - CP by 10 over TW


HAHAHAHAH wow ....little late there bud, the game is already over smart guy. nice prediction though.

[twcpfan1]

The streak of 12 playoff years in a row is especially impressive when you consider that in most of those years TW was in one of the more competitive districts in the state with the Kleins, Spring, Westfield, and now Lufkin. Some of the schools with longer playoff streaks like Westlake were in a weak district.

Still, a state championship is missing - that is obviously the next step - the split will make that a more difficult challenge, however, there are some great athletes coming up so who knows - after all, TWHS still is one of the larger schools in the state.

I wonder which Woodlands school ends up being 1st to win State?

[unbiasedobserver]

It might be a really long wait to determine which will be first if either. So far the record against Champion caliber teams is not real encouraging even with the two schools combined.
0--4 vs Northshore
0--3 vs Lufkin
0--2 vs Katy
1--0 vs Tyler Lee
I am actually assuming that this years Seniors were the last class to be able to stay at TWHS.

[nonamesleft]

It might be a really long wait to determine which will be first if either. So far the record against Champion caliber teams is not real encouraging even with the two schools combined.
0--4 vs Northshore
0--3 vs Lufkin
0--2 vs Katy
1--0 vs Tyler Lee
I am actually assuming that this years Seniors were the last class to be able to stay at TWHS.

records may be bad againts those temas, but look at how many tims they have won againts champion caliber opponents as well...
Westfield, Humble, A&MC, Klein Forest, Coppers Cove, Temple, Tyler Lee, North Mesquite, Arlington Lamar, Spring, and many more to come by BOTH Woodlands schools.
http://www.highlanderfootball.net/history/career/gamebygame.pdf

[leda08]

http://www.highlanderfootball.net/hi...gamebygame.pdf

Great Website!

[CPSupporter]

One last comment. I thought ALL IN ALL it was a great event. While outmanned in numbers and age-Seniors especially, CP played reasonablly well. I also thought the stands were full and great. I thought the spirit (other than a couple of things mentioned above -ad nauseum) was well directed.

This shouldbe fun in years to come.

It is great for the football team, but also the others to have the additional school to allow more to actually compete on the field.... this is what it is about IMHO