Tyler Lee vs Chaminade-Madonna

[LPFAN]

CM had the ball first but was not able to get any points on the board. Lee gets the ball and is driving the ball down the field. Lee has first and goal at the 3yrd line......TD Lee!!!

[LPFAN]

With 4:54 in the first quarter Lee is up 7-0.

[drgnbkr]

Chaminade is about to tie it up...at the 2 yard line....

[LPFAN]

CM threatening!!!

[LPFAN]

CM fumbles the ball but get it back but they lose four yards.

[pack0808]

Chaminade is about to tie it up...at the 2 yard line....
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Nevermind i have no clue

[LPFAN]

CM fumbles on a pitch and Lee recovers.

[drgnbkr]

Chaminade fumbled it back to Lee at the Lee goal line...what are you listening to Pack?

[pack0808]

Possibly too many beers?? LOL

[LPFAN]

Sounds like Lee is moving the ball pretty good.

[LPFAN]

CM intercepts the pass.

[drgnbkr]

I'll bow out of the play by play, you pack people are more entertaining.. :cool:

[wide-e-wide]

Pack0808 is listening to a Madonna cd....does that count?

[LPFAN]

Pack0808 is listening to a Madonna cd....does that count?
Singing "Like a Virgin" :eek:

[drgnbkr]

Aw hell, I'm back...tied up at 7....

[LPFAN]

Are we listening to Lee or Longview? :eek:

[wide-e-wide]

I'm listening to Motown...and they are winning...hahahaha
I could care less about any other team...if they don't have Pack on their helmets...I don't care.

[pack98]

Td Lee

14-7 Mid 2nd Qtr.

[LPFAN]

This game is better then the Longview vs Marshall game.

[bullrock]

Wher's the defense. This sounds like it might be a track meet.

[wide-e-wide]

Hey Pack0808 clear out your freakin' PM box....I'm trying to have a damn conversation....that is all...carry on.
BTW...TSRN sucks...I can't get the game for some reason.

[LPFAN]

What did I miss. I thought Lee got the ball back with 45 seconds and then the next thing I know they are talking to Coach Owens and it is halftime. Did I just misunderstand how much time was left on the clock after CM turned the ball over on downs?

[pack0808]

Hey Pack0808 clear out your freakin' PM box....I'm trying to have a damn conversation....that is all...carry on.
BTW...TSRN sucks...I can't get the game for some reason.



I cleared it!! I can get the game and my computer is not the best. So you have windows media player etc etc setup??

[Texasfrog]

Hey Pack0808 clear out your freakin' PM box....I'm trying to have a damn conversation....that is all...carry on.
BTW...TSRN sucks...I can't get the game for some reason.

14-7 halftime. REL gets the ball 1st coming out.

I'm glad I'm like everyone else. I was about to throw my PC out the window so it sounds like everyone else is having the same problem. You hear one play then skips a play.

Lets go REL need to score on that opening 2nd half drive.

[LPFAN]

14-7 halftime. REL gets the ball 1st coming out.

I'm glad I'm like everyone else. I was about to throw my PC out the window so it sounds like everyone else is having the same problem. You hear one play then skips a play.

Lets go REL need to score on that opening 2nd half drive.
Mine has been working nonstop. I went to this link and then clicked listen http://www.tsrnsports.com/Broadcast/Broad-D12-5a-Tyler-Lee.htm I guess DSL makes a difference.

[wide-e-wide]

14-7 halftime. REL gets the ball 1st coming out.

I'm glad I'm like everyone else. I was about to throw my PC out the window so it sounds like everyone else is having the same problem. You hear one play then skips a play.

Lets go REL need to score on that opening 2nd half drive.

Hey shipmate....where's Concha?....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah ahhahahahahahahahahahaha
Suddenly that game is meaningless.

[pack0808]

I have DSL at work and i love it but at home i get free dial up so i am not changing until i have to. Let's just say i have a friend that used to work for the state that gave me the username and password!! LOL

[dragons08]

I have DSL at work and i love it but at home i get free dial up so i am not changing until i have to. Let's just say i have a friend that used to work for the state that gave me the username and password!! LOL
Dial up :eek: , i think cable is to slow, imagine if i had dial up, oh man, my comp would be broke from smacking it so much in anger..oh man itd be crazy

[pack0808]

It is not that bad. I do love my DSL at work though.

[wide-e-wide]

I have DSL...but this damn spyware is killing me...damn.

[LPFAN]

I have DSL...but this damn spyware is killing me...damn.
Oh man that spywear will eat your computer up. What did you do, download a bunch of "free" screensavers etc..... :eek:

[LPFAN]

This game is back and forth. Sounds like a Lufkin and Lee game of the past or last years Lufkin vs The Woodlands game.

[pack0808]

First of all get out of IE AKA Internet Explorer and you will not even have to purchase ad and spyware equipment or Virus software. I use Mozzila Firefox and i never have a problem at all. Hackers target IE because it is so popular. Since i have switched it has been like night to day. No more problems!! Before all i had was problems. A computer wizard told me this, and i did not figure that out by myself. trust me it works!!

[wide-e-wide]

Oh man that spywear will eat your computer up. What did you do, download a bunch of "free" screensavers etc..... :eek:

My wife thought it would be cute to download some Astros screensavers...and WHAMMMMMM...Porn is your homepage...that was last year ...and that sh..is still killing me. I'm about 2 Miller Lites away from throwing this mofo out the damm patio door.

[LPFAN]

CM scores again and is a PAT away from tying the game again.

[LPFAN]

21-21

[pack0808]

14-14 right??

[LPFAN]

14-14 right??
No 21-21

[LGVAg]

Hell of a game. I'm gonna have to get a DVD of it if the ending is good.

[LPFAN]

I just figured everyone was listening so I did not post the other times that each team scored.

[Texasfrog]

Hey shipmate....where's Concha?....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah ahhahahahahahahahahahaha
Suddenly that game is meaningless.

No kidding ! That game is really going to be meaningless if REL losses this game.

REL is hurting some of defense without Cuba patrolling the middle of the field.

[wide-e-wide]

But Colerain lost today....man I should have bet both of yall.

[LPFAN]

This game is a battle. Start of the 4th quarter and CM is threatening.

[LPFAN]

CM scores again. Goes up 27-21 before PAT attempt.

[pack0808]

scratch that!! Holding!!

[LPFAN]

scratch that!! Holding!!
you are a few minutes late. After the holding call earlier CM had to punt but Tyler Lee was penalized for running into the kicker so CM got the ball back and then went on to score.

[pack0808]

Damn my connection is waaaaay behind. :eek:

[LPFAN]

Damn my connection is waaaaay behind. :eek:
Free is not always the best!!! :eek:

[pack0808]

What an absolute bonehead mistake to rough the punter when they are punting in your territory. I would have blown a vein in my forehead if that was Lufkin. Tyler Lee's defense does not compare to their d last year. They lost them all basically.

[LPFAN]

Lee just scored!!!

[pack0808]

Free is not always the best!!! :eek:


I would not even know if i was not in here. I need to leave. LOL

[LPFAN]

What an absolute bonehead mistake to rough the punter when they are punting in your territory. I would have blown a vein in my forehead if that was Lufkin. Tyler Lee's defense does not compare to their d last year. They lost them all basically.
Yeah that was a big bonehead mistake. But now they are tied at 28.

[pack98]

28-28 LETS GO LEE WIN FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT. The lee RB had over 200 yard rushing.

[pack0808]

What?? Colerain has not even scored yet on my game?? LOL It is still 21-21! :eek:

[LPFAN]

The announcers are calling Lee's back "The J Train."

[c-lisle]

go lee...what is the time

[LPFAN]

go lee...what is the time
6:56 left in the game.

[pack0808]

Please keep me updated because i think they are just kicking off the game on my connection!! :o

[wide-e-wide]

OH Snap...it's going down to the wire huh?

[LPFAN]

CM has 4th and long and has to punt with less then 4 minutes in the game.

[LPFAN]

CM shanked the punt. Lee has good field position with 3:43 left to go.

[LPFAN]

Lee gets first down on diving catch for 16 yards to Amie.

[LPFAN]

3:15 Lee has 2nd down and 2 to go.

[LPFAN]

Lee rushes for gain of 10 with 2:48 left in the game. Is in CM territory at about the 45yrd line.

[LPFAN]

This has been a great game!!!

[wide-e-wide]

C'mon Lee....REPRESENT BABY.

[LPFAN]

Lee gets a gain of nine yards and a first down. 26 carries and 262 yards for Lee's running back.

[LPFAN]

Lee gets to a one on a pass play to Jonathan Williams with 43 seconds in the game.

[c-lisle]

run the balll and kick a field goal

[LPFAN]

Lee gets to the one on a pass play to Jonathan Williams with 43 seconds in the game.

[c-lisle]

Lee gets a gain of nine yards and a first down. 26 carries and 262 yards for Lee's running back.


wow

[pack98]

Lee at the 1 yard line 43 seconds left Looks like Tyler Lee will win

Way to go great game. REPRESENT TEXAS,TEXAS,TEXAS

TEXAS HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL BEST IN THE NATION

REPRESENT EAST TEXAS

GO PANTHERS LETS GET READY FOR IKE.

GO HORNS- NOTHING BUT ROSEBOWL OR BUST

TD LEE 35-28

GREAT GAME HELL OF A GAME

[LPFAN]

Lee scores on a QB keeper with 17 seconds left in the game!!!!

[LPFAN]

PAT is blocked.

[pack98]

Ep Blocked 34-28 17 Seconds Left

[LPFAN]

Lee at the 1 yard line 43 seconds left Looks like Tyler Lee will win

Way to go great game. REPRESENT TEXAS,TEXAS,TEXAS

TEXAS HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL BEST IN THE NATION

REPRESENT EAST TEXAS

GO PANTHERS LETS GET READY FOR IKE.

GO HORNS- NOTHING BUT ROSEBOWL OR BUST

TD LEE 35-28

GREAT GAME HELL OF A GAME
You spoke to soon. The PAT was blocked so the score is 34-28.

[c-lisle]

PAT is blocked.


rut row

[LPFAN]

CM has the ball with 3 timeouts and 14 seconds left on the clock.

[wide-e-wide]

They got it....chill

[LPFAN]

CM completes pass for 17 yards with 5 seconds left.

[RGVBadBoy]

we dont knwo that yet, anything can happen....lets go LEE, REPRESENT!!!!

[LPFAN]

What a game! Longview might have a tough time with Lee in district.

[c-lisle]

What a game! Longview might have a tough time with Lee in district.

of course we will...why would you think otherwise

[LPFAN]

Lee Wins 34-28!!!

[pack0808]

I am glad they won. I reconnected so i could actually listen to it live. I am happy Lee represented Texas well.

[RGVBadBoy]

what was Chaminade-Madonna ranked in the Nation??? either way, Congrats Lee way to represent for your state....

[pack0808]

What a game! Longview might have a tough time with Lee in district.


No doubt?? When is the Longview vs Lee game not close??

[LPFAN]

of course we will...why would you think otherwise
I am referring to everyone thinking you guys will win district. Lee sounded much more impressive in this game then Longview did last night. I know it is always a tough game anytime the two of you play. But hey this is just one game apiece for both of you. I know the Lobos will only get better with each game.

[pack0808]

LPfan what?? You are judging 2 teams by what you heard on the radio?? They were playing 2 different teams??

[wide-e-wide]

Neither one can beat the Pack...so why argue?

[LPFAN]

LPfan what?? You are judging 2 teams by what you heard on the radio?? They were playing 2 different teams??
No different then judging two teams by what they read in the paper, magazines, forums and other football websites. No one in here has seen all the Texas teams play every season to make any kind of comment good or bad about a team. I have seen alot of people make comments about how good a team is or will be and most of the time they have not even seen them play and if they have it was last year or the year before.....So my assessment is no different then most that I have seen on this board.

[RidgePride]

what was Chaminade-Madonna ranked in the Nation??? either way, Congrats Lee way to represent for your state....
If CM was nationally ranked, about 9 other TX schools should be ranked ahead of them.

[pack98]

I agree Lee and L,view will be a battle like always.

cant wait for the new district it would be fun

longview,lufkin,lee,jt,texashigh,mavs and nac

think about that,, lv been to a state game,lee-won,texas high-won,lufkin-won, jt won- mavs been to one nac well except for them.

all those things have been done sense 1990 those are some dang good teams the only weak team in Nac and with coach harper they are going to rebuild sooner or later. and mavs sure longview beat them but they lost a hert breaker in the state game in 4a.

GO EAST TEXAS

GO PANTHERS

[pack0808]

Yeah but you know nothing about Chaminade?? Longview will score all day on Lee's defense this year and i like the Lobos by at least by 14. Usually it is a very very close game between these 2 but i like the Lobos pretty easily this year. You never can tell in this series though!!

[RGVBadBoy]

Chaminade-Madonna WAS ranked #25 in the Nation.....notice i said WAS

[c-lisle]

I agree Lee and L,view will be a battle like always.

cant wait for the new district it would be fun

longview,lufkin,lee,jt,texashigh,mavs and nac

think about that,, lv been to a state game,lee-won,texas high-won,lufkin-won, jt won- mavs been to one nac well except for them.

all those things have been done sense 1990 those are some dang good teams the only weak team in Nac and with coach harper they are going to rebuild sooner or later. and mavs sure longview beat them but they lost a hert breaker in the state game in 4a.

GO EAST TEXAS

GO PANTHERS

man...did you intentionally not say lview has won state. had to correct that one.

[Texasfrog]

Yeah but you know nothing about Chaminade?? Longview will score all day on Lee's defense this year and i like the Lobos by at least by 14. Usually it is a very very close game between these 2 but i like the Lobos pretty easily this year. You never can tell in this series though!!

REL beat the powerhouse Florida team but it was a dogfight track meet.

I do one thing. The new REL RB-Jason williams is a superstud. He had almost 300 yds rushing. His a "BEAST."

The new LT-Fitzpatrick (6-3/285) is a blue-chip. Apparently he just man handled Chaminade players all night. He'll be highly sought after no doubt.

But, all I can say is WOW. Living here in Ft. Lauderdale and being a Texan. I'm the new biggest fan for Hollywood Chaminade. I'm going to every game that I can. There is 100% no doubt that Chaminade and St.Thomas Aquinnas are the two best teams here in Dade & Broward county. :)

[LPFAN]

Yeah but you know nothing about Chaminade?? Longview will score all day on Lee's defense this year and i like the Lobos by at least by 14. Usually it is a very very close game between these 2 but i like the Lobos pretty easily this year. You never can tell in this series though!!
Maybe they will maybe they wont but they didn't score all day on Marshall. 28-16 is not scoring all day on someone to me. Not when I am accustomed to Lufkin scoring all day on most teams last year and racking up over 45-50 points per game most of the time.

[c-lisle]

marshall too

[c-lisle]

Maybe they will maybe they wont but they didn't score all day on Marshall. 28-16 is not scoring all day on someone to me. Not when I am accustomed to Lufkin scoring all day on most teams last year and racking up over 45-50 points per game most of the time.

whatever..look who yall play

[wide-e-wide]

man...did you intentionally not say lview has won state. had to correct that one.


In this century.

[LGVAg]

This century isn't even 10 years old....

[c-lisle]

This century isn't even 10 years old....


yeah, now we are discrediting all championships in the 20 century. LOL

[LPFAN]

whatever..look who yall play
That gets funny when you say that as if you have one of the toughest schedules in the world. Anyone out of Lufkin, Longview and Lee could beat each other on any given day and I just happen to think it wont be a cakewalk for you guys to win your district. Is there anything wrong with that? Lufkin might not win our district either. Big deal. That is life. I will have to deal with it just like you would have to if your team does not win district. That still does not change the fact that your team is still going to be good. You don't always win everything. You have to lose sometimes.

[pack0808]

What?? he is dogging Lufkin's schedule when Longview plays teams like Mesquite Horn, a pretty weak North Mesquite team, John Tyler, and Rockwall?? I think Rockwall?? Let's not pretend you guys are playing studs every week either??

[wide-e-wide]

I love it.....I love it....I love it....
smack...It's awesome...only wish they would have
had the internet back when we were in school.

[LPFAN]

I love it.....I love it....I love it....
smack...It's awesome...only wish they would have
had the internet back when we were in school.
Yeah would have saved us from getting banged up knuckles and faces.

[LPFAN]

There are internet gangs now you know.

[wide-e-wide]

Yeah...bunch of punks
They do all their talkin' behind a screen.
not in our times though...you got called out.

[pack0808]

Can you imagine how much abuse us Lufkin fans are going to have to take when Lufkin struggles in football again?? :eek: LOL i mean so many of us talk so much crap!! What if Lufkin went 6-4 this year or something?? Could you imagine the abuse?? I would be meeting people from other towns at 3:00 in the parking lot at my work every day if that happened because i could not handle the abuse. LOL Nah, I could handle it and i would expect it. One thing about me is i can sure damn dish it but i also can take it for the most part.

[pack0808]

I would be like hold up to the people i work with!! I have to go and fight this guy from Temple, Katy etc etc in the parking lot and i will be right back. ;)

[LPFAN]

Can you imagine how much abuse us Lufkin fans are going to have to take when Lufkin struggles in football again?? :eek: LOL i mean so many of us talk so much crap!! What if Lufkin went 6-4 this year or something?? Could you imagine the abuse?? I would be meeting people from other towns at 3:00 in the parking lot at my work every day if that happened because i could not handle the abuse. LOL Nah, I could handle it and i would expect it. One thing about me is i can sure damn dish it but i also can take it for the most part.
It would not get to me that much because I have never said that we will not be beat or that we will win district or anything like that. I know that on any day we could get beat and in any season we could have a losing one. Sometimes that is just the way it is even if you have the best talent on the field and a great coach. I mean who would have thought we were going to lose to Garland in the first round of the playoffs two seasons ago. I have just seen it too many times where people were expected to be great and then all of the sudden they end up not living up to all their expectations. That is just a fact of life. Even the best of us fall down but what is more important is that you don't stay down. You get back up!!!

[bleedgreen]

congrats to lee--it was worth the rain-soaked trip, i guess?? yea, jason Williams is good no doubt..but, Chaminade has NO defense what so ever.....Williams ran free all night long....alot of arm tackling by madonna, missed tackles--etc.......sorry guys..Williams won't be running that damn easy against us--we do have a defense that will shut the run down....Lee's passing game is non-existent, but they had so much success running, that they stuck to it...when they tried to pass is when the trouble started...on the flip side, Madonna had very good success in running the ball and passing the ball....wasn't too thrilled about Lee's defense...i don't know the numbers, but those 2 backs for Madonna had to have had at least 100-150 yards rushing a piece........to sum it up(from what i witnessed tonight)..Lee's running game looks good, passing game looks terrible, and the defense has alot of weaknesses---but, this is the first game of the year, so i'm sure the kinks will be worked out..........as for us, i wasn't impressed at all!! we looked flat or something--i don't know what it was?? Marshall isn't a slouch by no means--they looked good, i was impressed with those guys.....we had 3 fumbles and too many damn dropped passes---one of which was a wide open touchdown........not to mention, the refs gave Marshall 10 points....in my book(which doesn't count), the final was 28-6....for a minute last night, i thought that i was back at Evangel stadium as bad as the calls were...and so obvious, at that.......

[LPFAN]

Did Widey finally pass out??? He sure was on a war path tonight.!!! :eek:

[bleedgreen]

LOL, LPFan-----yea, i was reading the thread about Waco----that sh?t was funny!! i almost spit my pepperoni pizza on the computer screen--LOL....the Pack were swarming on that thread! i didn't want to chime in and let the young man(the guy that they were arguing with) know that Waco is 0-8 against us, as well..no wonder they quit scheduling us in non-district--LOL.................

[Jtate862003]

Bleed i went to the game as well...this has got to be the worst game i have seen lee play in 2 years....the defense is horrible the passing game was non existent......what did they throw 4 times all game...and then owens interview after the game saying we didnt throw because we wanted our players to be physical.........passing game or running game...if lee doesnt get there defense going they wont even be considered for a playoff berth.....A win is a win but just good thing this wasnt a team like longview, lufkin, westfield or any good texas team.....lee has ALONG way to go on defense....and as for the passing game they better get one because theres no way they will run like that on all the teams.....KUDOS to Jason Williams he by far had an excellent game 267 yards 3 or 4 td's........

[c-lisle]

What?? he is dogging Lufkin's schedule when Longview plays teams like Mesquite Horn, a pretty weak North Mesquite team, John Tyler, and Rockwall?? I think Rockwall?? Let's not pretend you guys are playing studs every week either??

Y'all will argue about anything. LOL Longview's schedule consists of 4 teams that played for a state championship last year. Two of those teams won state championships. How many teams does LP play that played for a state championship? Sure, our district isn't the strongest but it consists of two state ranked teams, and the other teams are much improved this year. And y'all play nacogdoches....that is a joke.

[myround0]

Lee at the 1 yard line 43 seconds left Looks like Tyler Lee will win

Way to go great game. REPRESENT TEXAS,TEXAS,TEXAS

TEXAS HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL BEST IN THE NATION

REPRESENT EAST TEXAS

GO PANTHERS LETS GET READY FOR IKE.

GO HORNS- NOTHING BUT ROSEBOWL OR BUST

TD LEE 35-28

GREAT GAME HELL OF A GAME

you guys play the cowboys in a few weeks...i rout for you to have a good game, but for the boyz to win

[LGVAg]

What?? he is dogging Lufkin's schedule when Longview plays teams like Mesquite Horn, a pretty weak North Mesquite team, John Tyler, and Rockwall?? I think Rockwall?? Let's not pretend you guys are playing studs every week either??

Mesquite Horn has one of the best runningbacks in the state/nation. North Mesquite has a decent passing attack. Not much to say about JT and Rockwall, but it looks like things will be looking up for JT soon. Besides, it isn't our fault our district is weak... Who did you guys schedule for pre-district play?

We have Marshall, West Monroe, Lake Highlands (they are okay... nothing special), and Evangel. What about you guys? I know you have Nac because it's an old old rivalry, and I can understand that one, but who else?

[bleedgreen]

well??? what do you say to that question, Pack fans??? one of my Lobo brothers has called you out---we're waiting??? and, oh yea, call me out and i will DEFINITELY meet you in ANY parking lot you want to--LOL............

[bleedgreen]

Bleed i went to the game as well...this has got to be the worst game i have seen lee play in 2 years....the defense is horrible the passing game was non existent......what did they throw 4 times all game...and then owens interview after the game saying we didnt throw because we wanted our players to be physical.........passing game or running game...if lee doesnt get there defense going they wont even be considered for a playoff berth.....A win is a win but just good thing this wasnt a team like longview, lufkin, westfield or any good texas team.....lee has ALONG way to go on defense....and as for the passing game they better get one because theres no way they will run like that on all the teams.....KUDOS to Jason Williams he by far had an excellent game 267 yards 3 or 4 td's........

JTate---sorry i didn't get to meet you at the game brother.....i got half way to Tyler before i realized that i forgot to get your cell phone number....maybe, we can meet at another game...Lee/Longview, perhaps....i agree with you, i saw the same thing you did last night....Lee's passing game wasn't on at all, nor was the defensive schemes to shut Chaminade's RB's down--i was a little surprised, but then again, i wasn't--it's the first game..i call it a "walk-through"--just to see what needs to be addressed before the next game...Jason was a beast last night(but he always is)...pure athlete, great RB, great strength, really "shifty" and strong--total package.....hope he wears the burnt orange one day soon--LOL.....like i said, i wasn't impressed with our outing, either...way too many mistakes on our end....we had better get on the stick before West Monroe this saturday...i'm not making a trip to Independence Stadium to look like a fool, or to be embarrassed because of stupid mistakes like fumbles and dropped passes......anyway, congrats again to Lee--way to represent 12-5A and the state of Texas...ttyl.......hey, how many yards did Willie Floyd(#9) and #5 end up with(Chaminade RB's).....to all posters---if you would have seen this Chaminade RB(#9--Willie Floyd)run the ball last night, you would have hit the floor!! this guy is the quickest and fastest highschool kid that i have ever seen run.....he has to a least run a 4.2--wouldn't be a stretch to say maybe a 4.1----this joker could flat fly!!

[Hornified64]

Bleedgreen.....

The two RB's from Chaminade Madonna combined for somewhere in
the neighborhood of 250 yards on 30+ carries.

Willie Floyd (#9) went for 190 yds on 21 carries and Xavier Stinson (#5)
had 60 on 11 totes. Believe me when I tell you that BOTH will be D-1
signees next February.

I'll agree with you AND JTate that Lee's D is NOT what is was last season.

However, that Chaminade team can play with anyone within East Texas.

Period.

Lee will only get better...both on Offense and Defense.

The Lee passing game was neutralized somewhat last night by
a very good coverage team from Florida.

Three of the four Chaminade DB's are ALSO D-1 recruits.

Lee QB Hill went 4-9 for 75 yards...BUT was money when he had to be
completing his last 3 passes he threw on the night when it mattered
most. One to TE Fleet on the game tying drive then 2-2 on the game
winning drive.

I suppose it's all in what a football fan pays attention to within the
game.

Besides...Lee has a VAST array of passing plays that they just did not
show last night....add to that the fact that Jason Williams is a definite
D-1 recruit...and Lee really did not need to throw very often...imo.

Anyway...I was also at Longview's win against Marshall. The Lobos were
good when they had to be...on both sides of the ball. I especially liked
how they mixed it up on the ground and the air...definite improvement.

They clicked early on and also on the initial drive of the second half BUT
the Lobo secondary is suspect...imo.

That Longview-Lee matchup will be quite a ballgame...to be sure.

[Texasfrog]

Bleedgreen.....

The two RB's from Chaminade Madonna combined for somewhere in
the neighborhood of 250 yards on 30+ carries.

Willie Floyd (#9) went for 190 yds on 21 carries and Xavier Stinson (#5)
had 60 on 11 totes. Believe me when I tell you that BOTH will be D-1
signees next February.

I'll agree with you AND JTate that Lee's D is NOT what is was last season.

However, that Chaminade team can play with anyone within East Texas.

Period.

Lee will only get better...both on Offense and Defense.

The Lee passing game was neutralized somewhat last night by
a very good coverage team from Florida.

Three of the four Chaminade DB's are ALSO D-1 recruits.

Lee QB Hill went 4-9 for 75 yards...BUT was money when he had to be
completing his last 3 passes he threw on the night when it mattered
most. One to TE Fleet on the game tying drive then 2-2 on the game
winning drive.

I suppose it's all in what a football fan pays attention to within the
game.

Besides...Lee has a VAST array of passing plays that they just did not
show last night....add to that the fact that Jason Williams is a definite
D-1 recruit...and Lee really did not need to throw very often...imo.

Anyway...I was also at Longview's win against Marshall. The Lobos were
good when they had to be...on both sides of the ball. I especially liked
how they mixed it up on the ground and the air...definite improvement.

They clicked early on and also on the initial drive of the second half BUT
the Lobo secondary is suspect...imo.

That Longview-Lee matchup will be quite a ballgame...to be sure.

HCM has a very tough team. I would say that 3 of their O-lineman are D-1A, 2 Rb's are D-1A, 2 Wr's are D-1A. Their O-line was like (6-3/280) average. Plus, the QB (coaches son) ran that offense to perfection (like a coaches son). Their going to cake walk to the Florida 2A title.

Plus, their (HCM) defense has about 5 or so D-1A kids on it. They had some good size and great speed.

Tyler Lee Defense: I think when they get FS- Cuba back his going to make their defense alot better. They will be able to move a few kids around and fit their ability better. His going to be a major addition to REL defense. I'm pretty sure he'll be back for the Colerain, Ohio game.

Tyler Lee Offense: Wow, their going to be very very good. Especially if they can cut out a couple of little mistakes. Jason Williams is going to have his choice of schools to go to.

[Hornified64]

Texasfrog....

I'll agree that Lee getting Safety Tekerrian Cuba back will help the
defense on several levels...not the least of which will be against
the run.

It will be interesting to see just how much improvement will take place
for Lee as it will be noticeable....imho.

[raidercheerdad]

I wasn't unimpressed with Lee - as so many of you seemed to be. I was extremely impressed with HCM and how much of a total package they really were. Lee's offense took care of business and two of HCM's touchdowns came on short fields - one after an interception and the other after an automatic 1st down after a roughing the kicker! Lee's defense held them three and out in the fourth quarter when they had to and then Preston Hill completed a 23 yard pass to Jonathon Williams right over the middle to the one yard line to set up the winning touchdown. This is going to be a team that knows how to take care of what they have to to win. I was impressed that they never seemed to get rattled - a machine that just kept running. I made statement that Jayson Williams was going to be as good as Tyrone was last year and got laughed at by the vast majority of you. I think he showed his potency last night and will continue to do so over the course of the season.
Kudos to HCM -- a class program with some great athletes. My hat's off to them for the fight they put up after all they went through to play this game. The delay was hard on both teams. You know how adrenaline is -- highs and lows.
Great high school football game!

[Texasfrog]

I wasn't unimpressed with Lee - as so many of you seemed to be. I was extremely impressed with HCM and how much of a total package they really were. Lee's offense took care of business and two of HCM's touchdowns came on short fields - one after an interception and the other after an automatic 1st down after a roughing the kicker! Lee's defense held them three and out in the fourth quarter when they had to and then Preston Hill completed a 23 yard pass to Jonathon Williams right over the middle to the one yard line to set up the winning touchdown. This is going to be a team that knows how to take care of what they have to to win. I was impressed that they never seemed to get rattled - a machine that just kept running. I made statement that Jayson Williams was going to be as good as Tyrone was last year and got laughed at by the vast majority of you. I think he showed his potency last night and will continue to do so over the course of the season.
Kudos to HCM -- a class program with some great athletes. My hat's off to them for the fight they put up after all they went through to play this game. The delay was hard on both teams. You know how adrenaline is -- highs and lows.
Great high school football game!

You didnt get laughed at by me Raiderdad. I said that Jason Williams would probably have a 2,000 yd season (if he stays healthy).

I agree with you on HCM. They're a complete package team on all levels. A very worthy opponent that anyone would be happy to beat.

[Texasfrog]

Texasfrog....

I'll agree that Lee getting Safety Tekerrian Cuba back will help the
defense on several levels...not the least of which will be against
the run.

It will be interesting to see just how much improvement will take place
for Lee as it will be noticeable....imho.

Ya... many times football is about team chemistry. Sometimes you put in that extra element and it changes everything (for the better & worse sometimes).

I think Cuba is going to really make REL defense extra special when he gets on the field. Just him walking out on the field will lift everyones playing ability up a notch on defense. Ya know.

[Hornified64]

Texasfrog....

Yeah....I know very well about the influence that Cuba "should"
have on the Lee defense.

I'm not sure just WHEN he'll return but my source should know
in the next day or two.

IF he sees the field at Waco this week THEN that will be a nice
benefit....maybe NOT to the extent that it will be more than a
handful of plays...BUT his presence WILL be felt.

I think though that the coaching staff will side on the area
of caution and NOT rush him back too soon.

We shall see.

[Texasfrog]

Texasfrog....

Yeah....I know very well about the influence that Cuba "should"
have on the Lee defense.

I'm not sure just WHEN he'll return but my source should know
in the next day or two.

IF he sees the field at Waco this week THEN that will be a nice
benefit....maybe NOT to the extent that it will be more than a
handful of plays...BUT his presence WILL be felt.

I think though that the coaching staff will side on the area
of caution and NOT rush him back too soon.

We shall see.

I heard from a pretty good source that his suppose to start running tomorrow (Monday). I dont think he'll start cutting or hitting until later.

I wont be surprised to see him sit out this week (contact) and then get back into the saddle next Monday.

[MikeWahl]

Just so you know the defense on the Tyler Lee squad is not "Horrible" timid, and unexperienced yes. Only 4 players have little of any experience. Cuba's lost was indeed crucial but he's supposedly coming back next week. Those who watched details, the defense did step up when time was crucial, and have the talent to be a tremendous force once the ball gets rolling. Those who crack down now, will have a foot in the mouth come more games. Also, you must take in mind the players were couped up in the lockeroom from 4-8 practically, without food mind you. haha I am willing to bet a dramatic improovement come next week.

Oh and as for your sources, what better one than a player himself! haha :eek:
But i better keep that 2 myself so i dont get hassled for ma poor play last nite...haha

[Texasfrog]

Just so you know the defense on the Tyler Lee squad is not "Horrible" timid, and unexperienced yes. Only 4 players have little of any experience. Cuba's lost was indeed crucial but he's supposedly coming back next week. Those who watched details, the defense did step up when time was crucial, and have the talent to be a tremendous force once the ball gets rolling. Those who crack down now, will have a foot in the mouth come more games. Also, you must take in mind the players were couped up in the lockeroom from 4-8 practically, without food mind you. haha I am willing to bet a dramatic improovement come next week.

I'm with you 100%. I think REL defense played very well and did a great job. The "bend but dont break" was in full affect. That's all that matters.

I also know that Hollywood Chaminade is pretty good and they have a huge O-line and some great skill kids. So , for Tyler Lee to play them heads up like that is great.

I do think REL defense is pretty solid and its going to get better with game experience. Bring in a blue-chip like Cuba and its just going to uplift the defense even more.

I played LB in High school with an All-state FS on our team. It made life alot easier because I knew in the back of my head that I had a stud back there for support. It helped me play a little faster and a little more wreckless because not much was going to get past him. By the way he went to LSU and started there for 3 years ( he was that good).

I think Cuba is that good also. His going to make REL defense move faster and be alot more aggresive by just having him on the field.

"I'm excited."

[Texasfrog]

Just so you know the defense on the Tyler Lee squad is not "Horrible" timid, and unexperienced yes. Only 4 players have little of any experience. Cuba's lost was indeed crucial but he's supposedly coming back next week. Those who watched details, the defense did step up when time was crucial, and have the talent to be a tremendous force once the ball gets rolling. Those who crack down now, will have a foot in the mouth come more games. Also, you must take in mind the players were couped up in the lockeroom from 4-8 practically, without food mind you. haha I am willing to bet a dramatic improovement come next week.

Oh and as for your sources, what better one than a player himself! haha :eek:
But i better keep that 2 myself so i dont get hassled for ma poor play last nite...haha

Hey Mike.. I've got a source that's almost as good as the player himself.

Anyway, good job last night. You better have those boys fired the "HECK" up for two weeks when you go represent not just Tyler but Texas.

Get it fired up !!!! " The eyes of Texas are upon YOU !"

[pack0808]

Usually Lufkin has one of the toughest non-district schedules you can find. Example, in 2002 Lufkin played top ten teams Ike and Katy along with our horrible rival Nac. In 2003 they played Ike and Katy again and of course Nac. Lufkin played 7 or 8 top10 teams in 2003. In 2004 Lufkin played Tyler Lee and Ike last year along with Nac!! This year Lufkin basically had no choice on their non-district schedule. Ike is not what they used to be but they are still not a a slouch. They are a playoff team every year!! PA Memorial who Lufkin had to play because Tyler Lee canceled in order to play Colerain, I would put them over teams this year like Horn, Jt, Rockwall easily. They were a playoff team last year. And then you have poor Nacogdoches who is a necessary rival that you have to schedule. They did somehow manage to beat a Huntsville team by at least 4 tds this week. The old Marshall coach is over there and he might make them decent but that is hard to believe. For Nac to beat anybody that bad is pretty amazing though. ;) Longview plays a tough Evangel team that is not near as tough as they were in there big time days, West Monroe i know nothing about but i hear they are tough. Don't yall usually beat them yearly?? Yall also play a top 4a team but they are not big time when you are talking 5a. Lufkin last played Marshall in 2003 and beat them 39-3. I would give Longview the edge in the non-district schedule but I think the District schedule's are pretty even in terms of toughness with Longview having a slight edge. The Woodlands, Klein Collins, and Klein Forest are not slouch teams.

[Bilbo]

Pack0808 - Where did all this come from? Where you trying to post in the toughest non district thread?

[pack0808]

It came from the page before. Sorry to get off topic!! It started the other night.

[c-lisle]

Usually Lufkin has one of the toughest non-district schedules you can find. Example, in 2002 Lufkin played top ten teams Ike and Katy along with our horrible rival Nac. In 2003 they played Ike and Katy again and of course Nac. Lufkin played 7 or 8 top10 teams in 2003. In 2004 Lufkin played Tyler Lee and Ike last year along with Nac!! This year Lufkin basically had no choice on their non-district schedule. Ike is not what they used to be but they are still not a a slouch. They are a playoff team every year!! PA Memorial who Lufkin had to play because Tyler Lee canceled in order to play Colerain, I would put them over teams this year like Horn, Jt, Rockwall easily. They were a playoff team last year. And then you have poor Nacogdoches who is a necessary rival that you have to schedule. They did somehow manage to beat a Huntsville team by at least 4 tds this week. The old Marshall coach is over there and he might make them decent but that is hard to believe. For Nac to beat anybody that bad is pretty amazing though. ;) Longview plays a tough Evangel team that is not near as tough as they were in there big time days, West Monroe i know nothing about but i hear they are tough. Don't yall usually beat them yearly?? Yall also play a top 4a team but they are not big time when you are talking 5a. Lufkin last played Marshall in 2003 and beat them 39-3. I would give Longview the edge in the non-district schedule but I think the District schedule's are pretty even in terms of toughness with Longview having a slight edge. The Woodlands, Klein Collins, and Klein Forest are not slouch teams.

This is our first year to play WM in many years, so no we don't beat them yearly. We have only played them twice. They are one of the most storied programs in LA. They are favored to win the LA 5a title this year. Marshall would beat most 5a teams and are not near the team they were in 2003 when LP won 39-3. LP is lucky they don't face them in their opener...they would prolly beat y'all considering the state of your offense. They will prolly win a 4a state championship this year. PA memorial, while usually a playoff team, is a weak team from a weak district(sorry Scooter). So while Longview holds a slight edge in district toughness our overall schedule is by far tougher than LPs. 4 teams coming off state championship apperances...can't argue with that. I bet no other team in the state can claim that.

[Bilbo]

This is our first year to play WM in many years, so no we don't beat them yearly. We have only played them twice. They are one of the most storied programs in LA. They are favored to win the LA 5a title this year. Marshall would beat most 5a teams and are not near the team they were in 2003 when LP won 39-3. LP is lucky they don't face them in their opener...they would prolly beat y'all considering the state of your offense. They will prolly win a 4a state championship this year. PA memorial, while usually a playoff team, is a weak team from a weak district(sorry Scooter). So while Longview holds a slight edge in district toughness our overall schedule is by far tougher than LPs. 4 teams coming off state championship apperances...can't argue with that. I bet no other team in the state can claim that.

Exactly who are the 4 teams coming off state championship appearances in your schedule, now that this has become a Lufkin/Longview thread?

[pack0808]

LOL Bilbo sorry man!! Marshall would beat Lufkin?? I swear Rclisle you make statements that make me want to question your sanity sometimes. Lufkin somehow managed to beat that same Longview team that beat the 4a finalist Marshall Mavs by a huge amount. I mean what was the score 40-14 or something?? LOL You are always full of would of could of should of scenarios!!! :rolleyes: I know you severely despise Lufkin because of their recent ownership of your team but you really should let it go a little because it makes you talk a little silly at times. ;) I said i think Longview has the better schedule but please do not act like you guys are playing top 5 teams every week because you are not. By the way, Did you know Lufkin has played at least 1 state champ or a state finalist 5 of the last 6 years. 99 Garland, 00 John Tyler, 01 Austin westlake 02 Katy and SLC 03 Katy 04 Tyler Lee and SLC. I would gladly compare schedules over the last 4 or 5 years with Longview or anybody for that matter. Lufkin plays and alot of times beats the best every year for several years now. Nothing new over here!!

Carry on Bilbo, I know that threads never get off topic?? :rolleyes: I have seen many Lufkin threads turn to Lee and Longview threads in my days. ;)

[Bilbo]

I'm new here, and I mean no disrespect but longview and lufkin fans are longwinded and seem to love to argue. Just my observation.

[pack0808]

I would say that is a very good observation!! LOL Can you believe some of those crazy fans?? ;)

[TheDuke]

I'm new here, and I mean no disrespect but longview and lufkin fans are longwinded and seem to love to argue. Just my observation.


Your gonna fit right in here! ;) :D

[Bilbo]

I'm still looking for exactly who are the 4 teams coming off state championship appearances in Longview's schedule

[LPFAN]

LOL Bilbo sorry man!! Marshall would beat Lufkin?? I swear Rclisle you make statements that make me want to question your sanity sometimes. Lufkin somehow managed to beat that same Longview team that beat the 4a finalist Marshall Mavs by a huge amount. I mean what was the score 40-14 or something?? LOL You are always full of would of could of should of scenarios!!! :rolleyes: I know you severely despise Lufkin because of their recent ownership of your team but you really should let it go a little because it makes you talk a little silly at times. ;) I said i think Longview has the better schedule but please do not act like you guys are playing top 5 teams every week because you are not. By the way, Did you know Lufkin has played at least 1 state champ or a state finalist 5 of the last 6 years. 99 Garland, 00 John Tyler, 01 Austin westlake 02 Katy and SLC 03 Katy 04 Tyler Lee and SLC. I would gladly compare schedules over the last 4 or 5 years with Longview or anybody for that matter. Lufkin plays and alot of times beats the best every year for several years now. Nothing new over here!!

Carry on Bilbo, I know that threads never get off topic?? :rolleyes: I have seen many Lufkin threads turn to Lee and Longview threads in my days. ;)
Yeah for Longview!!! Now you have two meaningless wins over Lufkin in 2005. You won the 2005 Scrimmage Bowl and now you win the 2005 Battle of the Schedules. That is impressive. You will take what ever win you can get. You have to pull anything out of your butt to justify your opinion that Longview is better then Lufkin. Sad, very sad.:( I guess I wouldn't blame you after all you have been through with the Pack in the past six years. Hey this is a new season so lets just see how the season plays out. Who knows, we both might not do as good as we thought we would. If that happens we will have a whole bunch of people dogging us at the end of the season.

[pack0808]

I'm still looking for exactly who are the 4 teams coming off state championship appearances in Longview's schedule


Marshall, Evangel, and Tyler Lee is all i can think of?? Who am i missing?? Maybe Monroe?? I do not know?? I cannot keep up with the Lousiana teams also. Evangel usually owns the state of Lousiana recenltly though. It is not their fault they are forced into 1a now. I think that will hurt their program very badly. No more players will want to move there to play if it is 1a.

[c-lisle]

I'm still looking for exactly who are the 4 teams coming off state championship appearances in Longview's schedule

West Monroe, Evangel, Lee, Marshall(4a)

[c-lisle]

Yeah for Longview!!! Now you have two meaningless wins over Lufkin in 2005. You won the 2005 Scrimmage Bowl and now you win the 2005 Battle of the Schedules. That is impressive. You will take what ever win you can get. You have to pull anything out of your butt to justify your opinion that Longview is better then Lufkin. Sad, very sad.:( I guess I wouldn't blame you after all you have been through with the Pack in the past six years. Hey this is a new season so lets just see how the season plays out. Who knows, we both might not do as good as we thought we would. If that happens we will have a whole bunch of people dogging us at the end of the season.

Man you guys sure are sensitive about the meaningless scrimmages...noone even mentioned them or said Longview was better than LP. I was simply saying we have a tougher schedule. The streak is old news.... a whole new season is here.

[MikeWahl]

No disrespect to Waco, but geeze is there O-line tiny!! They better be mighty quick and mighty strong if they want their running back to cover some ground. Was told the biggest lineman is 5'11 210. I am bigger than that! haha

[Texasfrog]

No disrespect to Waco, but geeze is there O-line tiny!! They better be mighty quick and mighty strong if they want their running back to cover some ground. Was told the biggest lineman is 5'11 210. I am bigger than that! haha

Hey Mike, straps the pads on and play tough and hard and keep everyone healthy.

Did Cuba start running today ? Just wondering because I havent talked to anyone back home.

[MikeWahl]

Yeah he ran today, without a limp from what i saw! Unfortunately I didnt have much time 2 talk because we were busy doing 100 yard sprints. Wow those are fun! haha Specially with this heat! I am seeing a lot of improovement in practice today, players are lighting fuses now! I can't wait to strap up against some real compitition. (Not meaning that the teams we've played weren't I ment instead of practice) haha Just to clarify. Cuba's really syked 2 come and his arrival is very welcomed. Our run-stoppin ability will greatly increase...Like that guy said earlier, having a head-hunter behind us makes space for more aggression! (which we need)

[Texasfrog]

Yeah he ran today, without a limp from what i saw! Unfortunately I didnt have much time 2 talk because we were busy doing 100 yard sprints. Wow those are fun! haha Specially with this heat! I am seeing a lot of improovement in practice today, players are lighting fuses now! I can't wait to strap up against some real compitition. (Not meaning that the teams we've played weren't I ment instead of practice) haha Just to clarify. Cuba's really syked 2 come and his arrival is very welcomed. Our run-stoppin ability will greatly increase...Like that guy said earlier, having a head-hunter behind us makes space for more aggression! (which we need)


Haha, gotta like those 100yd runs.

[MikeWahl]

Naturallly...haha

[supercentex]

No disrespect to Waco, but geeze is there O-line tiny!! They better be mighty quick and mighty strong if they want their running back to cover some ground. Was told the biggest lineman is 5'11 210. I am bigger than that! haha


I think you were told wrong.

[MikeWahl]

Well tell me what facts were wrong I would happy obliged. But our coaches are usually pretty accurate

[Texasfrog]

Well tell me what facts were wrong I would happy obliged. But our coaches are usually pretty accurate

Hey Mike,, go ahead and stop it right there brother. You might make a nice bulletboard target and then a target on the field. Listen to the coaches and go wimp some butts.

[MikeWahl]

haha Thas what I want actually. I am gunnin for their heads y not them me? :cool:

[Texasfrog]

haha Thas what I want actually. I am gunnin for their heads y not them me? :cool:

I hear ya....

[MikeWahl]

Yuuup.

[Texasfrog]

Yuuup.

Ya,

[MikeWahl]

:rolleyes: haha WHo are ya in n e ways?

[Texasfrog]

:rolleyes: haha WHo are ya in n e ways?

I'm just a little Texas kid.

[MikeWahl]

I honestly don't know, wasn't payin much attention to them. Was really tryin 2 focus on Chaminade. haha

[Texasfrog]

I honestly don't know, wasn't payin much attention to them. Was really tryin 2 focus on Chaminade. haha

I hear ya.. go do some push-ups, bang your head on the wall a few times and get some sleep. We need the LB's to be ready.

Bring the "A" game against Waco and then bring it against that Ohio team. Against the Ohio team is called stop the run, stop the run and stop the run because that's all they do.

PS. Skip the part about banging your head on the wall and do somemore pushups.

[MikeWahl]

I hear ya.. go do some push-ups, bang your head on the wall a few times and get some sleep. We need the LB's to be ready.

Bring the "A" game against Waco and then bring it against that Ohio team. Against the Ohio team is called stop the run, stop the run and stop the run because that's all they do.

PS. Skip the part about banging your head on the wall and do somemore pushups.
haha i do that on game day cept its with other players! (bangin my head)
I am already ready for Waco, I wanna go play now!

[Texasfrog]

haha i do that on game day cept its with other players! (bangin my head)
I am already ready for Waco, I wanna go play now!

Well, keep the motor purring during the week.. then Friday night Reeve it up !!!

[MikeWahl]

Well, keep the motor purring during the week.. then Friday night Reeve it up !!!
hahah U gettin me all excited bout Waco now! Blah! Haha Ima be rev'in all week long now. Haha Once i get goin i dont stop till its done

[Texasfrog]

hahah U gettin me all excited bout Waco now! Blah! Haha Ima be rev'in all week long now. Haha Once i get goin i dont stop till its done

Alright brother.. I'll come home this season and I'll come slap on the back.

I'm getting the Chaminade game this week on DVD so I better see some hitting in it !!

I'll be watching on tv in two weeks. I better see a certain someone knocking heads and blowing people up (Texas style)!!

I should be home for the Longview game. Until then I'm going to have to settle for some DVD's.

Take care and dont turn the ""keys off"" until December 25th !!!

[MikeWahl]

haha U wont see much out of me this last game...I did horrible. tho I help set up for others i didnt do as well as i am capable of. If u dont know my number msg me

[Texasfrog]

haha U wont see much out of me this last game...I did horrible. tho I help set up for others i didnt do as well as i am capable of. If u dont know my number msg me

I know your #. Hey, sometimes its about plugging your area and containing your spot so others can support. (Teamwork).

I'm really looking forward to seeing the DVD and seeing somemore out of the REL this season. Keep working hard and plugging away and great things will happen. I have 100% confidence in everyone of ya'll and know what ya'll can do.

Remember , when you walk out on the field "nobody can beat ya !!" "NOBODY!"