View Full Version : Let's say Reggie Bush didn't win the Heisman...
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 08:59 PM
Who do you think should have won it??
AZTiger
10-17-2006, 09:00 PM
not Matt Leinart
Brady Quinn? ;)
AZTiger
10-17-2006, 09:00 PM
Sorry about that last post...Beano Cook had a gun to my head...then threatened to eat me
trbandchic
10-17-2006, 09:05 PM
not Matt Leinart
Brady Quinn? ;)
brady all the way...he is good and he is very nice to look at.. what more can you want?!
tigerdback083
10-17-2006, 09:08 PM
brady all the way...he is good and he is very nice to look at.. what more can you want?!
yea thats how i pick my heisman winners :D jp. VY without a question, even though the heisman is given out before his amazing performance in the National Championship
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 09:23 PM
Boy I'm really looking like an idiot so far...
TexasRed6x
10-17-2006, 09:24 PM
VY all the way. HOOK E'M.
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 09:31 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/untitled.jpg
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 09:36 PM
Rookie of the Week poll (http://www.nfl.com/rookies/vote)
Anyone who has watched the three of them perfrom...NOT a year later. BUT the same year.....can tell...two look like seasoned players. One looks like a rookie. a quote from Diablos...
Anyone? Really?
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 09:59 PM
2 votes?? That makes me sad...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/poorusc.jpg
ThEgReAtOnE
10-17-2006, 10:03 PM
I believe I've said it before....
The Heisman is about crowning the best football player who...
1) Performs to the highest level, against the toughest competition.
2) Dominates record books, against the toughest competition.
3) Is the most valuable player/commodity on his own team.
4) Competes on the same level, without drug or NCAA illegal outside influences.
That said...
If you took Reggie Bush away from USC, the Trojans still would've had an opportunity for a NC. Bush embodied 1), 2), 3), and he was ARGUABLY the MVP of his own team.
If you took Matt Leinart away from USC, the Trojans would've had much less of a chance for a NC, hoping that Booty wouldn't have lost it for them, but they still would've had a chance. Plus, Leinart embodied 1), 2), 3), 4), and he was ARGUABLY the MVP of his own team.
If you took Vincent Young away from Texas, the Longhorns would've had no chance for a NC. Young embodied 1), 2), 3), 4), and he was UNDOUBTEDLY the MVP of his own team.
IMO, Vincent Young was the clear-cut winner of the Heisman Trophy, last year.
So, to answer your question....Vincent Young.
Diablos
10-17-2006, 10:06 PM
I believe I've said it before....
The Heisman is about crowning the best football player who...
1) Performs to the highest level, against the toughest competition.
2) Dominates record books, against the toughest competition.
3) Is the most valuable player/commodity on his own team.
4) Competes on the same level, without drug or NCAA illegal outside influences.
That said...
If you took Reggie Bush away from USC, the Trojans still would've had an opportunity for a NC. Bush embodied 1), 2), 3), and he was ARGUABLY the MVP of his own team.
If you took Matt Leinart away from USC, the Trojans would've had much less of a chance for a NC, hoping that Booty wouldn't have lost it for them, but they still would've had a chance. Plus, Leinart embodied 1), 2), 3), 4), and he was ARGUABLY the MVP of his own team.
If you took Vincent Young away from Texas, the Longhorns would've had no chance for a NC. Young embodied 1), 2), 3), 4), and he was UNDOUBTEDLY the MVP of his own team.
IMO, Vincent Young was the clear-cut winner of the Heisman Trophy, last year.
So, to answer your question....Vincent Young.
I've never said he wasn't the MVP of Texas and Texas would not have been there without him. I have said and still say he was not the best player in college. The way the three of them are playing now shows that as well. AND no....it's NOT a year later unless they played for the NCS in October of last year.
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 10:07 PM
Man...that's gotta piss 'em off when Sooners fans agree with me.
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 10:08 PM
I've never said he wasn't the MVP of Texas and Texas would not have been there without him. I have said and still say he was not the best player in college. The way the three of them are playing now shows that as well. AND no....it's NOT a year later unless they played for the NCS in October of last year.
In sports lingo...since you're not real hip to it...
season= year
I'm focusing on your statement that if Bush didn't win it..........................Leinart should have. Nothing more...nothing less.
Diablos
10-17-2006, 10:11 PM
Man...that's gotta piss 'em off when Sooners fans agree with me.
Naaaa....man...some of us don't live and die by what others say. What does matter is scoreboard. Look on the other thread and you'll see that Leinart's stats exceed VY and Leinart's qb rating is #15. VY? didnt make the top 30. He wasn't the best collegiate player and he's not even close to being the best rookie. Did he somehow lose some skills since last season and Leinart and Bush gain skills?
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 10:13 PM
Naaaa....man...some of us don't live and die by what others say. What does matter is scoreboard. Look on the other thread and you'll see that Leinart's stats exceed VY and Leinart's qb rating is #15. VY? didnt make the top 30. He wasn't the best collegiate player and he's not even close to being the best rookie. Did he somehow lose some skills since last season and Leinart and Bush gain skills?
Hey brainiac...who got the "W" Sunday???
Speaking of scoreboard...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/Vinceposing.jpg
Like the scoreboard at the top of this page??????
Bush shouldn't have ever won the award and the VY showcase in the Rose Bowl proved it.
Diablos
10-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Hey brainiac...who got the "W" Sunday???
Speaking of scoreboard...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/Vinceposing.jpg
Like the scoreboard at the top of this page??????
You never address the issue wide. You insult...and u bring up some other glorious something. But you never address the issue. Who's leading who in rushing this year....ack! season.....and who's leading who in qb rating? Passing? Td's? INT's?
Now I know you always have to have the last word...so go ahead...I'm going to bed.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-17-2006, 10:19 PM
Naaaa....man...some of us don't live and die by what others say. What does matter is scoreboard. Look on the other thread and you'll see that Leinart's stats exceed VY and Leinart's qb rating is #15. VY? didnt make the top 30. He wasn't the best collegiate player and he's not even close to being the best rookie. Did he somehow lose some skills since last season and Leinart and Bush gain skills?
Using the word BEST is hard to do in a sport that has as many as 21 players, on a field, that can affect the success 1 player may have.
College is about who did "what", "when" and "against who". That's why I believe the Heisman needs to be given out after the National Championship.
Was Vince the MVP in College football last year, I think so. Why? I can give season stats or 3 and 30 rushing stats, but mainly...1) Because his team won the NC, and 2) Because they wouldn't have without him.
Leinart and Bush were great, and will do great things in the League, but I can't say the same thing about either one of them.
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 10:20 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/AAGU125University-of-Texas-2006-Ros.jpg
Since I get the last word...my last word is SCOREBOARD!!
This thread is about your ridiculous claim that Leinart should have won the Heisman over Vince. Not QB ratings....not Rushing yards...Leinart over Vince...so I am addressing the issue. And so are all the people voting for Vince.
You want to compare stats...go for it. Let's compare last season's stats. Young vs. Leinart...I don't think you want to do that though.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-17-2006, 10:34 PM
You want to compare stats...go for it. Let's compare last season's stats. Young vs. Leinart...I don't think you want to do that though.
I do...
Matt Leinart
As a senior started all 13 games completing 283 of 431 passes (65.7%) for 3,815 yards and 28 touchdowns with only eight interceptions … passed for 365 yards while completing 29 of 40 passes for one touchdown and one interception against Texas in the Rose Bowl … completions, passing yardage, passing efficiency rating and rushing touchdowns in 2005 were better than his 2004 Heisman Trophy season … ranked seventh nationally in passing efficiency (158.3, second in Pac-10) and 15th in total offense (290.3, first in Pac-10) … in the last six games of 2005, while never playing in the fourth quarter in the first three and only one series into the fourth quarter of the fourth and sixth contests, completed 66.8% of his passes (129-of-193) for 1,493 yards, 15 touchdowns and just two interceptions. He finished the season losing the National Championship game to the Texas Longhorns.
Vince Young
As a Junior, won Maxwell Award (nation's top player), Davey O'Brien Award (nation's top quarterback), Cingular/ABC Sports Player of the Year, Manning Award, consensus first-team All-America honors and Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year in unanimous vote while leading Longhorns to 13-0 season and BCS National Championship. Also finished as runner-up behind USC tailback Reggie Bush for Heisman Trophy. Earned spot on 11-member American Football Coaches Association Good Works team due to charitable work and community service efforts. Started all 13 games, completing 212 of 325 passes (65.2%) for 3,036 yards (third on team’s all-time single-season list) and 26 passing touchdowns (tied for first on team’s single-season list). Finished season third in country with 164.0 passer efficiency rating. Also rushed for 1,050 yards and 12 touchdowns. With 4,086 yards of total offense, became school’s single-season leader in total offense, bettering Major Applewhite's 1999 total of 3,211 yards. At No. 4 Ohio State (9/10), was 18-of-29 passing for 270 yards and two touchdowns while rushing for 76 yards in dramatic 25-22 victory. Helped break Buckeyes’ 36-game home non-conference winning streak. His 346 total yards were second-most in UT history versus a Top 5 opponent. Earned Sporting News and ABC/Cingular National Player of the Week and Walter Camp Football Foundation and Big 12 Offensive Player of the Week honors for performance. In Big 12 Championship against Colorado (12/3), helped team to 70-3 victory by passing for 193 yards and three TDs and adding 57 yards rushing in just over two quarters of play. Tied Chris Simms’ single-season TD passes mark with 26th of season. In BCS National Championship Game victory against Southern California (1/4/06), became fourth two-time Rose Bowl Offensive MVP after going 30-of-40 for 267 yards with no interceptions and rushing for 200 yards and three touchdowns on 19 carries (10.5 avg.). Scored two rushing touchdowns in final 4:03, including game-winning eight-yard run on fourth down with 19 seconds remaining.
2005 Heisman Winner = Vince Young
^^^ that is what most of us call pure domination.
BeauxGeezy
10-17-2006, 11:03 PM
Wow...
20 votes ....and 2 for Leinart...this one is gonna be close.
HUM398
10-17-2006, 11:35 PM
Naaaa....man...some of us don't live and die by what others say. What does matter is scoreboard. Look on the other thread and you'll see that Leinart's stats exceed VY and Leinart's qb rating is #15. VY? didnt make the top 30. He wasn't the best collegiate player and he's not even close to being the best rookie. Did he somehow lose some skills since last season and Leinart and Bush gain skills?
Do you even watch football?
Reggie bush gained skill??????? When. How many TD's does this kid have...
Has he even been a factor? Im sorry but Vince young on the bench accomplished far more then reggie has in the last 6 games...
Reggie was a great running back in college... And im sure he will be just as good in the NFL.. But right now, Deangelo williams is showing Bush up in the running back department... He even returned a 99 yard kick return...
zippy
10-18-2006, 12:21 AM
Do they not have the total votes? Who was in second, and by how many votes?
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 12:24 AM
THE RESULTS (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6700005/)
Keep in mind this is before the NC game. If they take the votes after the Rose Bowl.... Leinart is so far back you can't
even see his crossed headlights.
zippy
10-18-2006, 12:43 AM
THE RESULTS (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6700005/)
Keep in mind this is before the NC game. If they take the votes after the Rose Bowl.... Leinart is so far back you can't
even see his crossed headlights.
That there is all you need to make a choice, why even debate it?
Sicemhorns09
10-18-2006, 01:32 AM
I voted for VY...only because you forgot CJ!!!
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 01:37 AM
I voted for VY...only because you forgot CJ!!!
ha!!
Glad to see someone has a sense of humor about the whole I-35 Surprise...
Diablos
10-18-2006, 10:11 AM
Do you even watch football?
Reggie bush gained skill??????? When. How many TD's does this kid have...
Has he even been a factor? Im sorry but Vince young on the bench accomplished far more then reggie has in the last 6 games...
Reggie was a great running back in college... And im sure he will be just as good in the NFL.. But right now, Deangelo williams is showing Bush up in the running back department... He even returned a 99 yard kick return...
At risk of sounding like the forum bully..are you CRAZY? Everytime he takes the field the defense adjust to account for him. If he never had a carry or caught a pass he's still worth more than VY on the bench. I know u didn't miss his td run back ESPN only showed it 40 gazillion times. Check his stats- not bad for a rookie with shared playing time.
SHOWING Bush up? D'Angelo? Let's see......
Bush---- Rushing-145----- Receiving-- 285--------Punt return- 161---- TOTAL = 651----- 1-TD
Williams---Rushing- 139-----Receiving-- 41-------Punt return --302----TOTAL = 482------- 1-TD
Uh....Nope.....maybe u ought to watch a little more football yourself.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 10:34 AM
At risk of sounding like the forum bully..are you CRAZY? Everytime he takes the field the defense adjust to account for him. If he never had a carry or caught a pass he's still worth more than VY on the bench. I know u didn't miss his td run back ESPN only showed it 40 gazillion times. Check his stats- not bad for a rookie with shared playing time.
At risk of making you sound like a total idiot.. ARE YOU BLIND? They arent 5-1 because of Bush... They are 5-1 because of breeze and horn. Yes Bush provides another deminsion... But when given the ball, he has been less then productive... Defensives are accounting for him because of his potential threat... Just like defensives are accounting for Vince.
Who is the bigger threat now? Reggie
When both carrers are said and done who will be a defensive worst nightmare..? Vince young... Just like in college... He is more of a threat then bush will be.. Look at what vince young did for Texas passing, and rushing attacks. (with out him being involved in rushing).. jamal charles had a stellar season as a back up...along with Taylor. He doesnt just score points for you...He makes everyone around him better... Bush, though he is great...doesnt have that effect on the entire game... all four quarters. His attitude and poise set him apart from bush. Always will... Just get used to bush being second to Young. :D
You ask any college coach who he would rather have opposite of the defense and thier gonna tell you bush... Pete carrol even expressed frustration because they did everything the could to prepare for Vince young...and couldnt stop him.. Guess what, TEXAS DID STOP BUSH...
HUM398
10-18-2006, 10:43 AM
At risk of sounding like the forum bully..are you CRAZY? Everytime he takes the field the defense adjust to account for him. If he never had a carry or caught a pass he's still worth more than VY on the bench. I know u didn't miss his td run back ESPN only showed it 40 gazillion times. Check his stats- not bad for a rookie with shared playing time.
SHOWING Bush up? D'Angelo? Let's see......
Bush---- Rushing-145----- Receiving-- 285--------Punt return- 161---- TOTAL = 651----- 1-TD
Williams---Rushing- 139-----Receiving-- 41-------Punt return --302----TOTAL = 482------- 1-TD
Uh....Nope.....maybe u ought to watch a little more football yourself.
HAHAHA!!!
Bush actually has 195 yards rushing... But whats funny is you forgot to include the attempts
65 attempts for 195... 3.0 yards a carry
D.willams.. 26-139... 5.3 yards a carry!!!!
Watch football son, then come back and argue... Or sit down and just be quite..
Oh yeah Stellar numbers for a split back.. See's the ball more, but what does he do with his touches.. NADA
Favpack
10-18-2006, 10:47 AM
1 - VY
2 - CJ Wilson
3 - The helmet-slingin' U of M dude
that's the only rational order I know of.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 10:51 AM
HAHAHA!!!
Bush actually has 195 yards rushing... But whats funny is you forgot to include the attempts
65 attempts for 195... 3.0 yards a carry
D.willams.. 26-139... 5.3 yards a carry!!!!
Watch football son, then come back and argue... Or sit down and just be quite..
Oh yeah Stellar numbers for a split back.. See's the ball more, but what does he do with his touches.. NADA
Who said anything about why they are 5-1?
Who's the bigger threat?
BUSH
Total = 651 1 TD------38 REC - 285 yds.....
D'Angelo
Total = 482 1 TD ----- 7 REC - 41 yds.......even if you gave d'angelo 5x more receptions his numbers based on what he has done are around 200
Diablos
10-18-2006, 10:54 AM
At risk of making you sound like a total idiot.. ARE YOU BLIND? They arent 5-1 because of Bush... They are 5-1 because of breeze and horn. Yes Bush provides another deminsion... But when given the ball, he has been less then productive... Defensives are accounting for him because of his potential threat... Just like defensives are accounting for Vince.
...
"Defensives are accounting for him because of his potential threat... "
He's doing more with more stacked against him . "Defenses" haven't had to account for VY, he's been on the bench and still would be if there was any kind of qb in front of him.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 10:56 AM
Who is the bigger threat now? Reggie
When both carrers are said and done who will be a defensive worst nightmare..? Vince young... Just like in college... He is more of a threat then bush will be..
...
We are talking about now...not the future. Everyone has said and admits VY is a project for the future. Bush is NOW.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 10:56 AM
BUSH
Total = 651 1 TD 3.0 yards a carry
D'Angelo
Total = 482 1 TD 5.3 yards a carry
Williams has done more with less... dont pick and choice stats.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:02 AM
5.3 yards a carry
Williams has done more with less... dont pick and choice stats.
Then dont pick and choose your stats.....
totals
Bush = 651 ---1 -td
Williams = 482 -- 1 td Minus 169 yds in production.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 11:04 AM
We are talking about now...not the future. Everyone has said and admits VY is a project for the future. Bush is NOW.
BUSH HASNT DONE ANYTHING.... 600+ yards on a crap load of attemps...
the "beloved" sports announcers of ESPN "idiots" have even said that bush as done nothing... And they are bush crazy..
You arent supporting your argument... Your showing me he has more yards. Big deal. Williams is still showing up Bush.. Why.. because bush has 50+ more yards with almost 40 more attempts...
Please save your self now before i go kungfoo on you. :cool:
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:06 AM
BUSH HASNT DONE ANYTHING.... 600+ yards on a crap load of attemps...
the "beloved" sports announcers of ESPN "idiots" have even said that bush as done nothing... And they are bush crazy..
You arent supporting your argument... Your showing me he has more yards. Big deal. Williams is still showing up Bush.. Why.. because bush has 50+ more yards with almost 40 more attempts...
Please save your self now before i go kungfoo on you. :cool:
U just said dont pick and choose your stats....well u said choice but I understand typonese. So who's contributing more to his team? Look at the totals.
And that's not to say anything about defenses game planning him. Those same beloved announcers u speak of mentioned how amazzzzzinggggg it is what defenses do and how they shift to account for Bush's presence.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 11:07 AM
Then dont pick and choose your stats.....
totals
Bush = 651 ---1 -td
Williams = 482 -- 1 td Minus 169 yds in production.
Im not...I used the stats you provided. Bottom line is... Williams is more bang for the buck as of now... You have to look at the attempts... i could have 100000 yards on 1 billion attempts... but if thier is some one who has 100000 with only 1 million... They are the more productive back.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:10 AM
Im not...I used the stats you provided. Bottom line is... Williams is more bang for the buck as of now... You have to look at the attempts... i could have 100000 yards on 1 billion attempts... but if thier is some one who has 100000 with only 1 million... They are the more productive back.
No one gets point or yards for attempts. Productive is how many yards do I get on the field for you. Look at it again. WHO has MORE yards.
totals
Bush = 651 ---1 -td
Williams = 482 -- 1 td Minus 169 yds in production.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:17 AM
No one gets point or yards for attempts. Productive is how many yards do I get on the field for you. Look at it again. WHO has MORE yards.
totals
Bush = 651 ---1 -td
Williams = 482 -- 1 td Minus 169 yds in production.
Shoot after looking at those stats I'm wondering if D'angelo is so much better why they aren't running him instead of DeShaun?
Maybe you ought to give them a call?
HUM398
10-18-2006, 11:30 AM
No one gets point or yards for attempts. Productive is how many yards do I get on the field for you. Look at it again. WHO has MORE yards.
totals
Bush = 651 ---1 -td
Williams = 482 -- 1 td Minus 169 yds in production.
Of course bush does... BUT THAT ISNT THE POINT.. WILLIAMS IS DOING MORE with LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it through you tiny skull, do you lack the mental capacity to think logically. those number are superfical, because were talking about who is doing better......
You wanna talk NUMBERS.. Lets
another rookie.. (lets look at just Rushing yards, shall we)
J.Norwood.
30 attempts 226 yards 7.5 yards a carry... Not starting
TD:1
Reggie bush
65 attempts 195 yards 3.0 yards a carry...
Thats not enough for you... lets look at someone else
L. Maroney
78 attempts Yard: 332 per carry:4.3 Longest:41 TD: 3
not enough.......
Ok one more
Joseph Addai
59 attemps yards: 269 Per carry: 4.6
Total TD's: 2
HUM398
10-18-2006, 11:30 AM
Shoot after looking at those stats I'm wondering if D'angelo is so much better why they aren't running him instead of DeShaun?
Maybe you ought to give them a call?
perhaps he is injured. :rolleyes: not to mention a rookie.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:32 AM
Of course bush does... BUT THAT ISNT THE POINT.. WILLIAMS IS DOING MORE with LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it through you tiny skull, do you lack the mental capacity to think logically. those number are superfical, because were talking about who is doing better......
: 2
(deleted for brevities sake)
BUT what do they do for their team? BUSH is NOT a one dimensional back. YOU keep leaving out the TOTALS. YOU keep trying to focus on one thing...BUSH is a THREAT in THREE different areas...... LOOK at the TOTALS.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 11:39 AM
(deleted for brevities sake)
BUT what do they do for their team? BUSH is NOT a one dimensional back. YOU keep leaving out the TOTALS. YOU keep trying to focus on one thing...BUSH is a THREAT in THREE different areas...... LOOK at the TOTALS.
Yeah, he is a triple threat... Only this year, he has done nothing on the ground... When comparing him to other backs his Rushing production is poor... His recpetions above avrg... and his punt and kick returns are above... Nothing spectacular though.
Im look, im looking... NOT STUNNED AT ALL... if anything dissapointed.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 11:41 AM
Yeah, he is a triple threat... Only this year, he has done nothing on the ground... When comparing him to other backs his Rushing production is poor... His recpetions above avrg... and his punt and kick returns are above... Nothing spectacular though.
I'll accept that as he is an above average rookie....like pulling teeth but I am glad we agree.....and He's only just begun.
AND a side note to that....don't you think every team plans on stopping the run with NO? They've got Deuce and Bush. That's why you see his receiving so high. They are getting him out of the crowd.
TheDuke
10-18-2006, 11:54 AM
Vince Young should have won the Heisman over Bush anyway.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Vince Young should have won the Heisman over Bush anyway.
*bangs head against the desk* Of course .... you guys are right. Wonder why he didnt????? :eek:
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 12:14 PM
31-3!
Turns out there aren't as many idiots on this board as I thought. Just 3...and I already knew about one of 'em. We're in pretty good shape.
dragonsdaddy
10-18-2006, 01:00 PM
Boy I'm really looking like an idiot so far...
oh, don't be so harsh. it's not like you haven't been there before.
*bangs head against the desk* Of course .... you guys are right. Wonder why he didnt????? :eek:
Bush won the heisman because the media blew up his 'all purpose yards' which included his punt returns, receiving, rushing, and kick returns.
Bush had 1740 rushing yards for 16 td's and 478 receiving yards for 2 td's for a grand total of 2218 offensive yards abd 18 td's.
VY had 1050 rushing yards and 12 td's and 3036 passing yards and 26 td's for a grand total of 4086 offensize yards and 38 td's.
Which person has better stats?? There is no argument VY was last year's heisman/mvp/best collegiate player
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 01:13 PM
oh, don't be so harsh. it's not like you haven't been there before.
I was being sarcastic.
In this poll I am Ali and Diablos is Urkel.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 02:21 PM
oh, don't be so harsh. it's not like you haven't been there before.
and will be again...good thing he's amongst idiots errrrrrrr......the Texas faithful.
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 02:26 PM
So says the guy who not only said Leinart was better than Vince......at one point tried to convince me that Marcus Vick was better.
Yet I'm the idiot??
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 03:20 PM
The next time anyone on this board has any question as to the true identity of Diablos...please READ THIS THREAD (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=3206)
Notice the commom theme throughout the thread is "Wide take the bet"...
Well I took it and what happened??????
His "that's not me" defense might have worked had he not used the term "lad" througout the thread. A term that Diablos uses quite a bit too. Now let's be honest...what are the odds of 2 different people using that gay term??
Pwn3d once again!
KT do what you gonna do bro. But I'm sick of his smart mouth...it's time everybody on here found out who he really is and what he is really about.
I hope that this will end all of this...but it probably won't.
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Post #28 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=284294#post284294)
Post #134 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=288670#post288670)
That's just uncanny...
That two different people would refer to me as the same thing. Especially the word "lad"...c'mon who says that?
Diablos it appears that you have what poker players refer to as a "tell"...Anytime old wide starts getting under your skin you can't control yourself...you just have to call him "lad" don't you?
ThEgReAtOnE
10-18-2006, 03:52 PM
Post #28 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=284294#post284294)
Post #134 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=288670#post288670)
That's just uncanny...
That two different people would refer to me as the same thing. Especially the word "lad"...c'mon who says that?
Diablos it appears that you have what poker players refer to as a "tell"...Anytime old wide starts getting under your skin you can't control yourself...you just have to call him "lad" don't you?
Holy Bat-gaskets, that IS "hdshrinker"! Whattttt? Bwahahahahahahaha!
I remember he called you "lad", several times. And I've seen no one else, on this board, use that term.
Kick da' beat mon....
CHORUS:
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you
Bad boys
Whatcha want, watcha want
Whatcha gonna do
When Sheriff John Brown come for you
Tell me
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
Yeaheah
CHORUS:
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you :D :p
Diablos
10-18-2006, 03:53 PM
Post #28 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=284294#post284294)
Post #134 refers to me as lad (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=288670#post288670)
That's just uncanny...
That two different people would refer to me as the same thing. Especially the word "lad"...c'mon who says that?
Diablos it appears that you have what poker players refer to as a "tell"...Anytime old wide starts getting under your skin you can't control yourself...you just have to call him "lad" don't you?
Both of those post say Diablos....and I am kinda proud of you. I've made 487 post and I couldn't find any "lad" references. Two out of 487....now what was your point?
HUM398
10-18-2006, 03:54 PM
I'll accept that as he is an above average rookie....like pulling teeth but I am glad we agree.....and He's only just begun.
AND a side note to that....don't you think every team plans on stopping the run with NO? They've got Deuce and Bush. That's why you see his receiving so high. They are getting him out of the crowd.
Was drafted as a rb, and has done poor in that catergory.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 03:56 PM
Was drafted as a rb, and has done poor in that catergory.
Who told u he was drafted as an RB? He was drafted as an athlete who is an RB.
How many qb's are drafted as athletes that turn out to be wide receivers?
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 04:02 PM
Both of those post say Diablos....and I am kinda proud of you. I've made 487 post and I couldn't find any "lad" references. Two out of 487....now what was your point?
My point is that Hdshrinker called me that 1000 times...and YOU are the ONLY ONE that uses that term as well.
2 usernames....same gay term...what are the odds?
My point is...you and Hdshrinker are the same person. And Hdshrinker made a bet that USC would beat Texas. Therefore you need to change your username again.
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 04:05 PM
Holy Bat-gaskets, that IS "hdshrinker"! Whattttt? Bwahahahahahahaha!
I remember he called you "lad", several times. And I've seen no one else, on this board, use that term.
Kick da' beat mon....
CHORUS:
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you
Bad boys
Whatcha want, watcha want
Whatcha gonna do
When Sheriff John Brown come for you
Tell me
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
Yeaheah
CHORUS:
Bad boys, bad boys
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
When they come for you :D :p
Not bad for a drunk that is gonna lose his wife and kids huh?
You run your mouth long enough...and you will be exposed.
And just think this guy works in the psychology field:eek:
He can't even manage his own brain much less someone with a mental condition.
HUM398
10-18-2006, 04:06 PM
Who told u he was drafted as an RB? He was drafted as an athlete who is an RB.
How many qb's are drafted as athletes that turn out to be wide receivers?
So.. You agree... He has done poorly this year(so far) regarding his running game?
Diablos
10-18-2006, 04:08 PM
So.. You agree... He has done poorly this year(so far) regarding his running game?
No I don't. I think he's done well and will only do better. Unlike Texas product Cedric Bensen- that would be My example of doing poorly.
No I don't. I think he's done well and will only do better. Unlike Texas product Cedric Bensen- that would be My example of doing poorly.
It's too bad Cedric Benson scored twice so far this year.
That is once more than Reggie has been able to do... and Reggie did it on a punt return where his punt team cleared an obvious ridiculous path for him.
Reggie bush offensive touchdowns-zero
Sorry punt returns don't count as offensive yards and the only reason reggie looks so good is because of his blown up 'total yards' crap that includes kick offs and punts.
Firebird
10-18-2006, 07:29 PM
The next time anyone on this board has any question as to the true identity of Diablos...please READ THIS THREAD (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=3206)
Notice the commom theme throughout the thread is "Wide take the bet"...
Well I took it and what happened??????
His "that's not me" defense might have worked had he not used the term "lad" througout the thread. A term that Diablos uses quite a bit too. Now let's be honest...what are the odds of 2 different people using that gay term??
Pwn3d once again!
KT do what you gonna do bro. But I'm sick of his smart mouth...it's time everybody on here found out who he really is and what he is really about.
I hope that this will end all of this...but it probably won't.
You are a heck of a person to call out someone for poor message board behavior....
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 07:33 PM
You are a heck of a person to call out someone for poor message board behavior....
Please stay out of this dude...this is between me and the "lad".
Diablos
10-18-2006, 08:40 PM
It's too bad Cedric Benson scored twice so far this year.
That is once more than Reggie has been able to do... and Reggie did it on a punt return where his punt team cleared an obvious ridiculous path for him.
Reggie bush offensive touchdowns-zero
Sorry punt returns don't count as offensive yards and the only reason reggie looks so good is because of his blown up 'total yards' crap that includes kick offs and punts.
How many years has Cedric been at it?
1st year 2005 Chicago Bears 67 rushes 272 yds 0 TD's
2nd year 2006 Chicago Bears 47 rushes 148 2 TD's
Bush will have more than Cedric's two years THIS year.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 08:42 PM
You are a heck of a person to call out someone for poor message board behavior....
;)
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 08:58 PM
2nd year 2006 Chicago Bears 47 rushes 148 2 TD's
I like how you leave out the part where Bush has had 18 more carries than Ced.........and has ZERO TD's.
Diablos
10-18-2006, 09:05 PM
I like how you leave out the part where Bush has had 18 more carries than Ced.........and has ZERO TD's.
TOTAL YDS for CEDRIC 2 YEARS WORTH Rushing Passing EVERYTHING
445 2 TD
TOTAL YDS Bush.... 6 GAMES
651 1 TD
BeauxGeezy
10-18-2006, 09:07 PM
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How many years has Cedric been at it?
1st year 2005 Chicago Bears 67 rushes 272 yds 0 TD's
2nd year 2006 Chicago Bears 47 rushes 148 2 TD's
Bush will have more than Cedric's two years THIS year.
Cedric Benson didn't play in 7 of their 16 games last season and the 9 that he did play only three times did have more than 5 attempts.
Bush on the other hand is getting plenty of carries but gaining NO YARDS.
I'm still waiting on bush to remind me of Gale Sayers OR get his first career OFFENSIVE touchdown.
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