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Phoenixrising05
10-16-2006, 01:07 AM
I realize 5-5A hasn't been very strong the last couple of years, but there were at least "decent" teams to test the Dragons...and there was also at least one "fluke" game to "gel" the team: Sherman gave us a scare in 03, Keller in 04, and Grapevine last year. Also, in the last several years, I don't remember many (if any) games where the starters didn't even go in after halftime. But, looking at the rest of the schedule, particularly Keller and Richland, it appears there isn't even a possiblity for a "fluke," and will be even more games like Haltom where the starters are benched 2 quarters into it. For those of you who have been following the game longer, do you think this could bite SLC in the butt, especially if they have to play Trinity in round 2?

BTW: This is a genuine question, i'm not trying to demean the other teams or make Carroll sound better than they are...I am truly curious how the lack of competition will (if at all) affect them in the long run.

BigFanSLC
10-16-2006, 01:25 AM
from what i've seen so far, its going to be hard to stop Dodge/Newton running or Dodge just passing.... but hey you never know i think the O has a lot of confidence brewing and its showing expecially the O Line and the Running game.

BAMF cowboy
10-16-2006, 01:58 AM
I realize 5-5A hasn't been very strong the last couple of years, but there were at least "decent" teams to test the Dragons...and there was also at least one "fluke" game to "gel" the team: Sherman gave us a scare in 03, Keller in 04, and Grapevine last year. Also, in the last several years, I don't remember many (if any) games where the starters didn't even go in after halftime. But, looking at the rest of the schedule, particularly Keller and Richland, it appears there isn't even a possiblity for a "fluke," and will be even more games like Haltom where the starters are benched 2 quarters into it. For those of you who have been following the game longer, do you think this could bite SLC in the butt, especially if they have to play Trinity in round 2?

BTW: This is a genuine question, i'm not trying to demean the other teams or make Carroll sound better than they are...I am truly curious how the lack of competition will (if at all) affect them in the long run.

clearly its been hurting them come playoff time...

Phoenixrising05
10-16-2006, 04:14 AM
clearly its been hurting them come playoff time...

clearly you didn't take the time to read my entire post:eek:

leanderdad
10-16-2006, 06:59 AM
The only way it would hurt them is if they get in a close game and not having experienced a "last second" have to win scenario. But then again they could probably handle it just fine. Unfortunately it is a question that can only be answered in hindsight.

drgnbkr
10-16-2006, 07:27 AM
Despite what many think, Colleyville is an example of Carroll completely shutting down an otherwise explosive team. Colleyville hung 70 on Richland the week prior to the Carroll debacle, and hung 49 the week after. Colleyville giving Cedar Hill all they wanted, is another indication of just how finely tuned Carroll is. The offense and defense are getting quality reps in these district games and are headed toward the playoffs with healthy players and tons of confidence. After destroying Rockwall, Evangel, Colleyville and Haltom..all thought to have potent offenses prior to playing the Dragons, I think things are in good shape.

dragonsdaddy
10-16-2006, 07:46 AM
no!!

yankee
10-16-2006, 07:57 AM
if carroll and trinity both go undefeated, they probably won't play each other right? 2 undefeateds aren't supposed to meet that early now if i recall.

dragonsdaddy
10-16-2006, 07:59 AM
if carroll and trinity both go undefeated, they probably won't play each other right? 2 undefeateds aren't supposed to meet that early now if i recall.
they'd meet in rd 2

insider
10-16-2006, 08:03 AM
Despite what many think, Colleyville is an example of Carroll completely shutting down an otherwise explosive team. Colleyville hung 70 on Richland the week prior to the Carroll debacle, and hung 49 the week after. Colleyville giving Cedar Hill all they wanted, is another indication of just how finely tuned Carroll is. The offense and defense are getting quality reps in these district games and are headed toward the playoffs with healthy players and tons of confidence. After destroying Rockwall, Evangel, Colleyville and Haltom..all thought to have potent offenses prior to playing the Dragons, I think things are in good shape.

But while Colleyville is tough for the 5-5A mediocrity (all of district except SLC) the question is does this level of competition help or hurt Carroll getting prepared for the playoffs?

So, Colleyville came up against Carroll and found that their normal arsenal wasn't enough. They did not have experience dealing with a much better O and D.

So, by extension, while Carroll is smacking the other 5-5A teams, when they come up against a quality team - will they be the Colleyville (i.e. be overwhelmed) or will they continue to be dominant?

In the past, we've seen Carroll get tougher in the playoffs and they would find themselves in some challenging situations but deal with them. This year will probably be the same. An early ET match-up may mean that Carroll gets an early challenge without as much play-off experience (for the team this year - clearly SLC has the most play-off experience in past four years:D ).

Will come down to preparation, perseverance, focus and the 'right stuff'.

drgnbkr
10-16-2006, 08:10 AM
But while Colleyville is tough for the 5-5A mediocrity (all of district except SLC) the question is does this level of competition help or hurt Carroll getting prepared for the playoffs?

So, Colleyville came up against Carroll and found that their normal arsenal wasn't enough. They did not have experience dealing with a much better O and D.

So, by extension, while Carroll is smacking the other 5-5A teams, when they come up against a quality team - will they be the Colleyville (i.e. be overwhelmed) or will they continue to be dominant?

In the past, we've seen Carroll get tougher in the playoffs and they would find themselves in some challenging situations but deal with them. This year will probably be the same. An early ET match-up may mean that Carroll gets an early challenge without as much play-off experience (for the team this year - clearly SLC has the most play-off experience in past four years:D ).

Will come down to preparation, perseverance, focus and the 'right stuff'.

Again, look at where Cedar Hill is ranked..Colleyville gave them a tough game, so CHHS is not one of the "5-5A softies" as evidenced by their other games..Trinity woulld be a fine challenge, if it happens, but Carroll should be ready.

Grapeguy
10-16-2006, 08:24 AM
On the post-game radio show last week, Dodge was asked whether it would hurt the team down the road if the starters didn't have to play four quarters. "No" was basically his answer.

One upside to the blowouts is that if your starters are only playing half to 2/3 of the games, the chance of injury is reduced proportionately too.

Favpack
10-16-2006, 08:36 AM
Lack of competition can lull some teams to sleep. Lufkin has been known to lose interest from time to time. SLC does not play to it's level of competition - they are very machine-like in their destruction of foes. They usually have one letdown game a year - not sure if that happens this year. And, it will have no bearing come PO time.

If they play ET in round 2, I'd be more worried about ET being fully ready than SLC. The Haku will have no effect on SLC.

SLCDad
10-16-2006, 09:01 AM
Will come down to preparation, perseverance, focus and the 'right stuff'.SLC is overflowing with all four.

SLCDad
10-16-2006, 09:02 AM
The Haku will have no effect on SLC.It scares the heck out of ME. :D

toonman
10-16-2006, 09:12 AM
It scares the heck out of ME. :D

Let's get it right - The Haka.

BAMF cowboy
10-16-2006, 09:14 AM
clearly its been hurting them come playoff time...

i reread it, and i stand by my first comment

Grapeguy
10-16-2006, 09:24 AM
If they play ET in round 2, I'd be more worried about ET being fully ready than SLC. The Haku will have no effect on SLC.

The Haku? This must be the Maori war dance done while reciting Japanese poetry.:D

KT2000
10-16-2006, 09:37 AM
I don't think it'll effect them in a negative way. The Dragons are obviously experienced enough in big games to be ready to go when the time comes to play a four quarter football game.

If Trinity and SLC do get to play this year, I'll be one of the 40,000+ in attendance at Texas Stadium.

FeeltheHaka
10-16-2006, 01:07 PM
With the spread offense, I think it could help them. In my opinion this is priceless time to hone the timing of the QB and recievers. Also, the players will be more healthy and injury free.

WestPlano006
10-16-2006, 01:13 PM
This is the year, if Allen and SLC meet yet again, Allen will finally win.

toonman
10-16-2006, 01:17 PM
This is the year, if Allen and SLC meet yet again, Allen will finally win.

You are joking of course.

Allen 48 vs Rockwall 47
SLC 47 vs Rockwall 7

Need I say more.

rams55
10-16-2006, 02:04 PM
You are joking of course.

Allen 48 vs Rockwall 47
SLC 47 vs Rockwall 7

Need I say more.

agreed

WestlandTiger'95
10-16-2006, 02:13 PM
as said a THOUSAND times before....SLC will not be in any kind of trouble until they face a team that can shove the ball down their throats for four qtrs and keep the ball out of their hands... If it is a close, physical game in the fourth qtr, then you "MAY" have a chance to win....MAYBE!!!
Right now from where I sit, there are only two/three teams that can MAYBE pull it off. All you spread teams dont stand a chance against the masters.

BigJim331
10-16-2006, 02:22 PM
5-5a teams may not be as strong as some would like but the Carroll starters practice every single day against some of the toughest competition found in the Metro....and that is the SLC practice squads. After watching more than a few of their practices; I am convinced that the SLC bac-ups could start on many of the other teams. As such, they do a terrific job of preparing the starters for any game they are going into.

So even though the Friday Night Lights crowd may thin out by the third qtr; it is the Monday through Thursday group that is honing this team...

zippy
10-16-2006, 02:47 PM
Not at all. All this does is help them. They come into the playoffs fresh, and injury free on the most part. Many of the teams they face have to give all they have, all year, just to get to the playoffs. Not only are many wore out, but some are missing key players. The only way it it will hurt them is if they come into the playoffs expecting it to be a cakewalk like every game up to that point.

drgnbkr
10-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Not at all. All this does is help them. They come into the playoffs fresh, and injury free on the most part. Many of the teams they face have to give all they have, all year, just to get to the playoffs. Not only are many wore out, but some are missing key players. The only way it it will hurt them is if they come into the playoffs expecting it to be a cakewalk like every game up to that point.

It is amazing how the quality ratchets up each step you go in the playoffs..from what I've seen, the teams start getting pretty even from the quarterfinals on...prior to that can be some cakewalks and some tests..you never know.

KT2000
10-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Agreed, Westland.

Lufkin's the only spread team I would even think about picking against the Dragons.

Phoenixrising05
10-16-2006, 03:22 PM
Thanks for all the input, some really good points. I hadn't considered the injury aspect...smart stuff. And I also hope that person who made the comment about Allen was joking haha

Will Lufkin be tested at all in the remaining regular season?

KT2000
10-16-2006, 03:35 PM
The Woodlands has a solid team that can make them work. The Woodlands has a very good defense.

Favpack
10-16-2006, 03:40 PM
Yes - the Woodz and Lufkin should be a very good game - electric atmosphere in a Thurs. night TV game.

zippy
10-16-2006, 03:42 PM
The Woodlands has a solid team that can make them work. The Woodlands has a very good defense.

The Woodlands are going to be a very good team dispite their record in the preseason. I didnt know if that schedule would hurt or help them. Up to this point, it has for sure helped them. They are doing great.

ktchamp97
10-16-2006, 03:46 PM
You are joking of course.

Allen 48 vs Rockwall 47
SLC 47 vs Rockwall 7

Need I say more.
Possibly...

Exhibit A:

Abilene Cooper 28, San Angelo Central 10
San Angelo Central 28, Odessa High 19

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0

Abilene Cooper 61, Lubbock Coronado 33
Lubbock Coronado 28, Odessa High 14

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0


Anything can happen on any given night.

KT2000
10-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Plus, The Woodlands usually plays with a purpose at home that I haven't always seen on the road or at neutral venues. The last time The Woodlands hosted Lufkin in 2004, LP won 31-28.

zippy
10-16-2006, 03:50 PM
Possibly...

Exhibit A:

Abilene Cooper 28, San Angelo Central 10
San Angelo Central 28, Odessa High 19

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0

Abilene Cooper 61, Lubbock Coronado 33
Lubbock Coronado 28, Odessa High 14

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0


Anything can happen on any given night.


I try to tell people this all the time. They just do not listen. I will now be saving this as another example of the wacked out HS predictions based on "who beat who by how much" folder. Trust me, there have been many over the years.

ScottS
10-16-2006, 04:10 PM
This is the year, if Allen and SLC meet yet again, Allen will finally win.

Looks like SLC is headed for D1, while Allen is headed for D2.

TheRowdyRanger
10-16-2006, 04:24 PM
I realize 5-5A hasn't been very strong the last couple of years, but there were at least "decent" teams to test the Dragons...and there was also at least one "fluke" game to "gel" the team: Sherman gave us a scare in 03, Keller in 04, and Grapevine last year. Also, in the last several years, I don't remember many (if any) games where the starters didn't even go in after halftime. But, looking at the rest of the schedule, particularly Keller and Richland, it appears there isn't even a possiblity for a "fluke," and will be even more games like Haltom where the starters are benched 2 quarters into it. For those of you who have been following the game longer, do you think this could bite SLC in the butt, especially if they have to play Trinity in round 2?

BTW: This is a genuine question, i'm not trying to demean the other teams or make Carroll sound better than they are...I am truly curious how the lack of competition will (if at all) affect them in the long run.


If we look at the last 4 years this discussion can likely find the same answer as it has in the past. Even though SLC has had weaker district challenge ever since it entered 5A, it has proven that it can hold its own in the playoffs each year despite that. I think it does become harder for them to gauge just how to play each team in the playoffs, being as how they usually breeze through the regular season. I think this is eveident from the past 1 to 2 seasons...like last season, they had like 2 or 3 really close games before getting to state. So I think it will continue to get interesting...as the years go on, I think more and more teams will start figuring out how to claim victory over SLC. And SLC will have to prove is strength to keep this from happening.

ScottS
10-16-2006, 04:25 PM
5-5A is 17-7 in non-district play.

toonman
10-16-2006, 04:33 PM
Possibly...

Exhibit A:

Abilene Cooper 28, San Angelo Central 10
San Angelo Central 28, Odessa High 19

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0

Abilene Cooper 61, Lubbock Coronado 33
Lubbock Coronado 28, Odessa High 14

Friday - Odessa High 51, Abilene Cooper 0


Anything can happen on any given night.

Yes - anything can happen on any given night, but the teams you have mentioned are mediocre at best. When you are taking about the best programs; SLC, ET, Lufkin, Katy, SV etc, etc - they consistantly blow away teams by huge scores. Where SLC is concerned; I think you can compare common opponents’ results and you will see a history of where team A narrowly won/lost over team B, SLC has blown away team B.

aCm 07
10-16-2006, 04:36 PM
I honestly don't think it will matter that much, SLC is just that good. Like people said earlier, they will probably more injury free than their opponents, and besides, it's SLC we're talking about.

ET and SLC would be an interesting game in round 2. Like KT said I think Lufkin is about the only team I'd even give thought to about beating the Dragons.

BigFoot
10-16-2006, 04:47 PM
I honestly don't think it will matter that much, SLC is just that good. Like people said earlier, they will probably more injury free than their opponents, and besides, it's SLC we're talking about.

ET and SLC would be an interesting game in round 2. Like KT said I think Lufkin is about the only team I'd even give thought to about beating the Dragons.
KT SAID the ONLY SPread offense.

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 04:55 PM
I realize 5-5A hasn't been very strong the last couple of years, but there were at least "decent" teams to test the Dragons...and there was also at least one "fluke" game to "gel" the team: Sherman gave us a scare in 03, Keller in 04, and Grapevine last year. Also, in the last several years, I don't remember many (if any) games where the starters didn't even go in after halftime. But, looking at the rest of the schedule, particularly Keller and Richland, it appears there isn't even a possiblity for a "fluke," and will be even more games like Haltom where the starters are benched 2 quarters into it. For those of you who have been following the game longer, do you think this could bite SLC in the butt, especially if they have to play Trinity in round 2?

BTW: This is a genuine question, i'm not trying to demean the other teams or make Carroll sound better than they are...I am truly curious how the lack of competition will (if at all) affect them in the long run.

SLC has a way of making the district look really bad.
Trinity was supposedly in a tougher district last year when SGP beat them and IMAC easily could have.

In the playoffs SLC was beating IMAC 49-0 at the half and it took SGP overtime to beat Denton Ryan. Trinity beat Ridge 35-20 in a decent game.

If SLC was playing in Trinity's district, it would look weak too.

ktchamp97
10-16-2006, 05:01 PM
Yes - anything can happen on any given night, but the teams you have mentioned are mediocre at best. When you are taking about the best programs; SLC, ET, Lufkin, Katy, SV etc, etc - they consistantly blow away teams by huge scores. Where SLC is concerned; I think you can compare common opponents’ results and you will see a history of where team A narrowly won/lost over team B, SLC has blown away team B. I was mostly just ribbing you a little...Carroll has been amazingly consistent. Still, it only takes one off night.

The reason SLC, ET, Lufkin, Katy, SV, etc...consistently beat up on teams they're supposed to beat up on is that they don't put much stock into things like common opponents' scores. For the most part, the coaches at these programs have done a masterful job of convincing their kids that any team really can beat you, no matter what their record, if you don't prepare properly.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean that Carroll is immune to an early upset. I don't expect it to happen this year, however.

dragonbuck
10-16-2006, 05:06 PM
SLC has a way of making the district look really bad.
Trinity was supposedly in a tougher district last year when SGP beat them and IMAC easily could have.

In the playoffs SLC was beating IMAC 49-0 at the half and it took SGP overtime to beat Denton Ryan. Trinity beat Ridge 35-20 in a decent game.

If SLC was playing in Trinity's district, it would look weak too.


I'm glad you said that and not me!

I think that we match up better with ET this year than we would have last year. Our run D is amazing this year. I am not saying we would shut down ET's run offense; however, I think for 3+ quarters we could slow them down to scoring on only 1/4 of their drives; whereas, SC should score on 1/2-2/3 of their drives. Eventually ET's size will take its toll, but by then it may be too late.

as much as I would like for us to face LP again, the thought of a ET/SC matchup followed by a N.Shore game down the road for the winner would be a nice change. we shall see. Last year we didn't know D1 or D2 until midnight of week10.

anyone think that this year is flying by?

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 05:40 PM
I'm glad you said that and not me!

I think that we match up better with ET this year than we would have last year. Our run D is amazing this year. I am not saying we would shut down ET's run offense; however, I think for 3+ quarters we could slow them down to scoring on only 1/4 of their drives; whereas, SC should score on 1/2-2/3 of their drives. Eventually ET's size will take its toll, but by then it may be too late.

as much as I would like for us to face LP again, the thought of a ET/SC matchup followed by a N.Shore game down the road for the winner would be a nice change. we shall see. Last year we didn't know D1 or D2 until midnight of week10.

anyone think that this year is flying by?

I saw Trinity play SGP - IMAC and Ridge Last year. Trinity had a weak pass defense.

If Ridge can score 20 on them last year, Carroll could hang half a hundred. I would have taken SLC hands down last year.

This year too. Also remember that Colleyville Heritage barely lost to #5 Cedar Hill. SLC beat Colleyville Heritage 56-7

To answer your question, Yes this year has flown by.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 05:41 PM
I'm glad you said that and not me!

I think that we match up better with ET this year than we would have last year. Our run D is amazing this year. I am not saying we would shut down ET's run offense; however, I think for 3+ quarters we could slow them down to scoring on only 1/4 of their drives; whereas, SC should score on 1/2-2/3 of their drives. Eventually ET's size will take its toll, but by then it may be too late.

as much as I would like for us to face LP again, the thought of a ET/SC matchup followed by a N.Shore game down the road for the winner would be a nice change. we shall see. Last year we didn't know D1 or D2 until midnight of week10.

anyone think that this year is flying by?

The run D is impressive and Trinity has not faced a defense like Carroll yet, however Carroll has not played a team like ET in at least 3 years. The Katy team I saw last year was not near as physical as ET is, I cant see a holding Trinity to under 4 yards a carry for 75% of a game. The pounding that the D-Line would take would be something new for them. The ET boys are used to the pounding and I believe would be good enough to sustain a consistent 4ypc during the course of the game. Factor in the ability ET has in the passing game then you have a offense that would be very difficult to stop for a full 4 quarters.
I know Carroll has done some impressive things against the run this year but lets not confuse the Rockwall rushing attack to ET.

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 05:50 PM
The run D is impressive and Trinity has not faced a defense like Carroll yet, however Carroll has not played a team like ET in at least 3 years. The Katy team I saw last year was not near as physical as ET is, I cant see a holding Trinity to under 4 yards a carry for 75% of a game. The pounding that the D-Line would take would be something new for them. The ET boys are used to the pounding and I believe would be good enough to sustain a consistent 4ypc during the course of the game. Factor in the ability ET has in the passing game then you have a offense that would be very difficult to stop for a full 4 quarters.
I know Carroll has done some impressive things against the run this year but lets not confuse the Rockwall rushing attack to ET.

Do you even watch the games? Fossil Ridge Held its own - SGP did not have a problem with the Pounding - - I don't think SLC would have either.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 05:54 PM
Do you even watch the games? Fossil Ridge Held its own - SGP did not have a problem with the Pounding - - I don't think SLC would have either.

DUDE
I have forgotten more football than you will ever know.
Where did I mention anything about Fossil Ridge?
Look at the way Trinity breaks open a game. This year against SGP they had many big runs in the second half, why? because the O-line just wore out SGP. You my friend are a idiot.

dragonsdaddy
10-16-2006, 06:51 PM
DUDE
I have forgotten more football than you will ever know.
Where did I mention anything about Fossil Ridge?
Look at the way Trinity breaks open a game. This year against SGP they had many big runs in the second half, why? because the O-line just wore out SGP. You my friend are a idiot.
that's AN idiot, and no he's not. he has been a well reasoned poster from the getgo. i think we all need to take a deep breath and try to envision a pretty patch of turf in a far away land.

oh, ff, i don't think putting brain cells in the toilet counts as forgetting. i don't remember what it does count for, so there you go.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:02 PM
that's AN idiot, and no he's not. he has been a well reasoned poster from the getgo. i think we all need to take a deep breath and try to envision a pretty patch of turf in a far away land.

oh, ff, i don't think putting brain cells in the toilet counts as forgetting. i don't remember what it does count for, so there you go.

you say well-reasoned I say not, too each his own.

i have no idea what your talking about, I havent seen a toilet since friday night in GA ;) , what a glorious time that I hope does not make its way back to someone in Denton :eek:

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 07:03 PM
DUDE
I have forgotten more football than you will ever know.
Where did I mention anything about Fossil Ridge?
Look at the way Trinity breaks open a game. This year against SGP they had many big runs in the second half, why? because the O-line just wore out SGP. You my friend are a idiot.

Boy oh Boy - You have to turn this into a dog fight (for no reason).

I used Ridge IMAC and SGP as a measuring stick for SLC and Trinity since I've seen them all play each other in person. That my friend is research.

Reading the paper, looking up stats, and watching the HAKA is not research.

I am A idiot - Nice grammar - I found your website dude. http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Suits you perfectly

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:08 PM
Boy oh Boy - You have to turn this into a dog fight (for no reason).

I used Ridge IMAC and SGP as a measuring stick for SLC and Trinity since I seen them all play each other in person. That my friend is research

Reading the paper, looking up stats, and watching the HAKA is not research.

I am A idiot - Nice grammar - I found your website dude. http://piv.pivpiv.dk/


hey, im not the genius that said there was once a state called North Virginia after proclaiming to be a history guru :rolleyes:

Trinity has yet to play I-Mac or RIdge this year. So much for that indepth research you do. This year is this year and anyone who has seen Trinity play will tell you that they are much improved over the course of a year ago.
Tell me how's that govenor of North Virginia doing these days?

dragonsdaddy
10-16-2006, 07:16 PM
hey, im not the genius that said there was once a state called North Virginia after proclaiming to be a history guru :rolleyes:

Trinity has yet to play I-Mac or RIdge this year. So much for that indepth research you do. This year is this year and anyone who has seen Trinity play will tell you that they are much improved over the course of a year ago.
Tell me how's that govenor of North Virginia doing these days?
and yet you claim to have lost some memory. zounds. it'd be nice not to have a memory of carter's presidency.

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 07:16 PM
hey, im not the genius that said there was once a state called North Virginia after proclaiming to be a history guru :rolleyes:

Trinity has yet to play I-Mac or RIdge this year. So much for that indepth research you do. This year is this year and anyone who has seen Trinity play will tell you that they are much improved over the course of a year ago.
Tell me how's that govenor of North Virginia doing these days?



I used that in referring to last year SLC vs Trinity - I started this whole conversation referring to last year - You jumped into the conversation not knowing what the hell was going on then you try to change your angle.

You sir are AN http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Suits you perfectly

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 07:18 PM
hey, im not the genius that said there was once a state called North Virginia after proclaiming to be a history guru :rolleyes:

Trinity has yet to play I-Mac or RIdge this year. So much for that indepth research you do. This year is this year and anyone who has seen Trinity play will tell you that they are much improved over the course of a year ago.
Tell me how's that govenor of North Virginia doing these days?

what is a govenor or you probably pronounce it GUVNER -


or is it governor - http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Suits you perfectly

BeauxGeezy
10-16-2006, 07:19 PM
hey, im not the genius that said there was once a state called North Virginia after proclaiming to be a history guru


[My very best British Wimbledon accent] Game....set......and match....for Mr. Farmerfan.[My very best British Wimbledon accent]

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:19 PM
I used that in referring to last year SLC vs Trinity - I started this whole conversation referring to last year - You jumped into the conversation not knowing what the hell was going on then you try to change your angle.

You sir are AN http://piv.pivpiv.dk/

you make one post and think that it is what the whole thread was about. I was not even replying to you, I was replying to the poster who said that Carroll's defense has done so much against the run, I was simply informing him that this is a different monster than anything thy have seen, just like Carroll is a different monster than anything Trinity has seen, but then again what do I know, I spent all weekend in Georgia asking for directions to the state of North Virginia.

BeauxGeezy
10-16-2006, 07:20 PM
what is a govenor or you probably pronounce it GUVNER -


or is it governor - http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Suits you perfectly


Who's the GUVNER of North Virginia?

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:22 PM
what is a govenor or you probably pronounce it GUVNER -


or is it governor - http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Suits you perfectly

where is north virginia?

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:25 PM
and yet you claim to have lost some memory. zounds. it'd be nice not to have a memory of carter's presidency.

was in J.C territory this weekend, it's a shame he comes from such a beautiful place.

bobcatDL07
10-16-2006, 07:29 PM
as said a THOUSAND times before....SLC will not be in any kind of trouble until they face a team that can shove the ball down their throats for four qtrs and keep the ball out of their hands... If it is a close, physical game in the fourth qtr, then you "MAY" have a chance to win....MAYBE!!!
Right now from where I sit, there are only two/three teams that can MAYBE pull it off. All you spread teams dont stand a chance against the masters.
cy-fair knows a little bit about shoving the ball down people throats :p

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 07:33 PM
was in J.C territory this weekend, it's a shame he comes from such a beautiful place.


Man you are harping on some stupid idiotic stuff. You brought this whole ball into my court for no reason.

Is that all you have to hang your hat on is yesteryears arguments of NORTH VIRGINIA? Pretty Pathetic as you have proven yourself to be.

Nice way to prove your point or lack of substance.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:38 PM
Man you are harping on some stupid idiotic stuff. You brought this whole ball into my court for no reason.

Is that all you have to hang your hat on is yesteryears arguments of NORTH VIRGINIA? Pretty Pathetic as you have proven yourself to be.

Nice way to prove your point or lack of substance.

hey man, I too would be embarassed after proclaming to be a history buff and making on more than one occasion a comment about the state of north virginia.
if you read the actuall football stuff you will see how you were the one who jumped in and asked for the comment.
As far as watching football, I also have probably watched as much football as anyone on this board since 1988, that includes Trinity, Carroll, I-Mac, SGP or any others.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 07:40 PM
Man you are harping on some stupid idiotic stuff. You brought this whole ball into my court for no reason.

Is that all you have to hang your hat on is yesteryears arguments of NORTH VIRGINIA? Pretty Pathetic as you have proven yourself to be.

Nice way to prove your point or lack of substance.

why are you quoting that? am I missing something in that post?
Lets see, someone mentions they wished they could forget the Carter administration, I mention how I was in Georgia, Jimmy Carter's initials are J.C, J.C is from Georgia, Georgia is a beautiful place, it's shameful that J.C came from Georgia. Please fill me in on what was stupid about that?

BeauxGeezy
10-16-2006, 07:47 PM
I for one will never let the whole "North Virginia" comment go.
And if I ever say something that dumb I hope you never forget it either.
I mean c'mon dawg....you said North Virginia?....just tell me you were really,really,really drunk and we can move on. Otherwise....North Virginia will follow you the rest of your days.

For the record...there is no such place as West Carolina either.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 08:02 PM
I for one will never let the whole "North Virginia" comment go.
And if I ever say something that dumb I hope you never forget it either.
I mean c'mon dawg....you said North Virginia?....just tell me you were really,really,really drunk and we can move on. Otherwise....North Virginia will follow you the rest of your days.

For the record...there is no such place as West Carolina either.

There's not? What are you going to tell me next, there is not such thing as East Dakota?

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 08:07 PM
hey man, I too would be embarassed after proclaming to be a history buff and making on more than one occasion a comment about the state of north virginia.
if you read the actuall football stuff you will see how you were the one who jumped in and asked for the comment.
As far as watching football, I also have probably watched as much football as anyone on this board since 1988, that includes Trinity, Carroll, I-Mac, SGP or any others.


Please show me where I proclaimed to be a history buff - I never claimed that. When I stated north Virginia, I soon realized my error and corrected it.
And you and your friend want to harp on that?

Just plain stupid...

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 08:09 PM
I for one will never let the whole "North Virginia" comment go.
And if I ever say something that dumb I hope you never forget it either.
I mean c'mon dawg....you said North Virginia?....just tell me you were really,really,really drunk and we can move on. Otherwise....North Virginia will follow you the rest of your days.

For the record...there is no such place as West Carolina either.
Don't let it go - It can follow me around forever if that makes you happy. Won't bother me a bit if your life is that pathetic.

Why don't you get out of FF's arse and breath a little.

DragonFan
10-16-2006, 08:12 PM
There was at one time a movement to create the empire of Texas. During the Civil War an enterprising group of farmers formed an army to invade the western territories that comprised what is now New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, California, Nevada, the Dakota’s etc.

The plan was to conquer those territories and then declare them part of the greater Empire of Texas. See as the Union was embroiled with a little uprising in the South, this group of hardscrabble men thought that the Union would not notice that the Western half of the now United States would be under the control of The Empire of Texas. All went according to plan with this army winning several battles. The only problem was that those battles alerted the Union to this plan. Once the Army of the Texas Empire meets the 7th Calvary the idea of the Empire of Texas faded as quickly as the remnants of the Imperial Army ran back to Texas.

There is a book on this episode of American History called "Blood and Treasure" by Donald Frazier.

BeauxGeezy
10-16-2006, 08:12 PM
Don't let it go - It can follow me around forever if that makes you happy. Won't bother me a bit if your life is that pathetic.

Why don't you get out of FF's arse and breath a little.


I could very well be pathetic...but I know this... North Virginia is a fig newton of your imagination.

I meant figment...I caught it and I corrected the error.

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 08:16 PM
Please show me where I proclaimed to be a history buff - I never claimed that. When I stated north Virginia, I soon realized my error and corrected it.
And you and your friend want to harp on that?

Just plain stupid...


if you want I could go back and pull up the post. you were spouting off crap like you were going to give me a history lesson cause you tutored in history, but you would have to charge me and what not. I think you would rather me not bring that back to the top.

Next time dont be so quick in correcting grammar, you are calling us pathetic for bringing it back up however you wre the one that wanted to correct a typo I made. Why is it that your so called typo is ok when me forgetting a simple N is not?
I mean there is a big difference when refering to something as North or West. Not so much in "a" and "an".

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 08:18 PM
There was at one time a movement to create the empire of Texas. During the Civil War an enterprising group of farmers formed an army to invade the western territories that comprised what is now New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, California, Nevada, the Dakota’s etc.

The plan was to conquer those territories and then declare them part of the greater Empire of Texas. See as the Union was embroiled with a little uprising in the South, this group of hardscrabble men thought that the Union would not notice that the Western half of the now United States would be under the control of The Empire of Texas. All went according to plan with this army winning several battles. The only problem was that those battles alerted the Union to this plan. Once the Army of the Texas Empire meets the 7th Calvary the idea of the Empire of Texas faded as quickly as the remnants of the Imperial Army ran back to Texas.

There is a book on this episode of American History called "Blood and Treasure" by Donald Frazier.

dragonbuck
If you want to read about something truly inspring read about Terry's Texas Rangers. That might have been the most charasmatic group this country has ever known. Those guys were the epitome of greatness :D

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 08:18 PM
...

BeauxGeezy
10-16-2006, 08:21 PM
Oh yeah?

Well steers and queers....

Wait, you nancies don't have any steers.


wow...that was original.
You would think that a guy who runs around inventing states would have a better imagination.

zippy
10-16-2006, 08:21 PM
I was mostly just ribbing you a little...Carroll has been amazingly consistent. Still, it only takes one off night.

The reason SLC, ET, Lufkin, Katy, SV, etc...consistently beat up on teams they're supposed to beat up on is that they don't put much stock into things like common opponents' scores. For the most part, the coaches at these programs have done a masterful job of convincing their kids that any team really can beat you, no matter what their record, if you don't prepare properly.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean that Carroll is immune to an early upset. I don't expect it to happen this year, however.

Another thing they do is make sure their kids are not terrified to play a top team. Several teams are capable of beating the top teams, but they just can't take the heat. The good coaches are very good at making sure their kids know its just another game, just another team. 11 on 11. Some of these coaches talk all week about playing the #1 team in the state. The WR's are this and that, the RB is the best in the state, the defense is the best around! Blah Blah Blah. At the end of the week all you have been hearing is stuff that makes you believe that you cant beat the team. I dont blame them for losing..

RidgePride
10-16-2006, 08:23 PM
if you want I could go back and pull up the post. you were spouting off crap like you were going to give me a history lesson cause you tutored in history, but you would have to charge me and what not. I think you would rather me not bring that back to the top.

Next time dont be so quick in correcting grammar, you are calling us pathetic for bringing it back up however you wre the one that wanted to correct a typo I made. Why is it that your so called typo is ok when me forgetting a simple N is not?
I mean there is a big difference when refering to something as North or West. Not so much in "a" and "an".

You are still bitter about being wrong years and years ago? Man you were just waiting for the chance to get me back huh?

The "stupidity" level on this thread was already off the "charts". You Just "launched" it even further.
It's all stupid - You brought me down to your level of stupidity with the name calling.

I guess you are beating me with experience - as the quote states

farmerfan
10-16-2006, 08:25 PM
It's all stupid - You brought me down to your level of stupidity with the name calling.

I guess you are beating me with experience - as the quote states

any time you want to compare GPA's or go head to head in an apptitude test let me know.

c-lisle
10-16-2006, 10:28 PM
i havent read the whole thread but IMO no. Look at SLC and Lufkin the past few years.....pretty weak non dist schedules and they have met in the semis as we all know 3 years straight......

my3sons
10-16-2006, 10:51 PM
i havent read the whole thread but IMO no. Look at SLC and Lufkin the past few years.....pretty weak non dist schedules and they have met in the semis as we all know 3 years straight......

3 out of 4. 2002, 2004, 2005.

dragonbuck
10-16-2006, 11:46 PM
3 out of 4. 2002, 2004, 2005.

at least we are talking HS football again and are hopefully done with the geography and texas history lessons!

RidgePride
10-17-2006, 01:36 AM
any time you want to compare GPA's or go head to head in an apptitude test let me know.

What's the likelyhood of this event taking place? You're a freakin Einstein.

DrEdward
10-17-2006, 02:10 AM
where is north virginia?

Okay, you got me on this North Virginia reference. What are you talking about?

Oh and by the way, the answer to the originial question in this thread is "No."

WestlandTiger'95
10-17-2006, 11:55 AM
cy-fair knows a little bit about shoving the ball down people throats :p

we'll see this weekend. sometimes opponents can do you a favor and open wide, but i got a fellin that falls wont be wantin any of your medicine.:o

farmerfan
10-17-2006, 12:35 PM
Okay, you got me on this North Virginia reference. What are you talking about?

Oh and by the way, the answer to the originial question in this thread is "No."

Dr E
It goes back to a post last year. RIdge got me on my typo when I called him "a idiot" instead of "an idiot" he wanted to bring grammar into this or my lack of grammar. I just simply reminded him that he was the one spouting how he was a history tutor and telling us about the state of North Virginia during the civil war.
I brought it up simply because he made it a point to correct my mistake which I understand but we are all not without stupid comments and that might have been one of the funniest ones ever made on this board.

drgnbkr
10-17-2006, 01:19 PM
Dr E
It goes back to a post last year. RIdge got me on my typo when I called him "a idiot" instead of "an idiot" he wanted to bring grammar into this or my lack of grammar. I just simply reminded him that he was the one spouting how he was a history tutor and telling us about the state of North Virginia during the civil war.
I brought it up simply because he made it a point to correct my mistake which I understand but we are all not without stupid comments and that might have been one of the funniest ones ever made on this board.

You can call me an idiot, but don't be calling me a idiot!....:D

zippy
10-17-2006, 02:59 PM
You can call me an idiot, but don't be calling me a idiot!....:D

That has me all confused... Is it "idiot" or "idiot". Which is correct?

drgnbkr
10-17-2006, 03:06 PM
That has me all confused... Is it "idiot" or "idiot". Which is correct?
It's all about an or a idiot....

zippy
10-17-2006, 03:09 PM
It's all about an or a idiot....


Thank god, I missed that. I thought he was an idiot, but that turns out to be me. I will go with an.