Massey Power Ratings...

[Tiger Dude]

Aw, this is fun, ain't it? :)

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX

[CoppellCowboy57]

Wooohooo Coppells Ranked In The Top 50...

[Tiger Dude]

Wooohooo Coppells Ranked In The Top 50...


If you think about it, all joking aside, that really is pretty impressive. What's that? Top 20% of all 5A football in a powerhouse highschool football state?

Hmm... that leads to another topic... :cool:

[SLCDad]

These power ratings are almost totally impacted by results from last season.

It's interesting to note that the #1 Offense and the #1 Defense met in the state championship game last year. The game clearly showed those strengths. The SLC offense out gained SV about 2 to 1 but the SV defense forced turnovers and scored points to keep the game very close.

[CoppellCowboy57]

If you think about it, all joking aside, that really is pretty impressive. What's that? Top 20% of all 5A football in a powerhouse highschool football state?

Hmm... that leads to another topic... :cool:

thats pretty sweet...I didnt think coppell would be in the top 50 of any poll in the state

[CCHS77]

thats pretty sweet...I didnt think coppell would be in the top 50 of any poll in the state

It's a computer generated ranking, not poll. Considering no games have been played (yet) this year, it is 100% based on what your team did last year.

[CoppellCowboy57]

It's a computer generated ranking, not poll. Considering no games have been played (yet) this year, it is 100% based on what your team did last year.

my team went 4-6 last year...

[Big Daddy Cool]

It's a computer generated ranking, not poll. Considering no games have been played (yet) this year, it is 100% based on what your team did last year.


Isn't that pretty much what all pre season polls and or rankings are based on? This is why most people don't put awhole lot of stock in them. They are simply doen to give people like us something to talk about. And while some get really hyped over them most know they usually don't mean a hill of beans when playoff time rolls around.

[CCHS77]

Isn't that pretty much what all pre season polls and or rankings are based on? This is why most people don't put awhole lot of stock in them. They are simply doen to give people like us something to talk about. And while some get really hyped over them most know they usually don't mean a hill of beans when playoff time rolls around.

No.

Pre-season polls assembled by people or organizations endeavor to assess returning letterman, quality of underclassmen in key positions, etc. Massey Power (computer-based) Rankings makes no such assessment. If you would go to their site you'd find statements like;

"The Massey Ratings are designed to measure past performance, not necessarily to predict future outcomes."

"Preseason ratings are typically derived as a weighted average of previous years' final ratings. As the current season progresses, their effect gets damped out completely. The only purpose preseason ratings serve is to provide a reasonable starting point for the computer. Mathematically, they guarantee a unique solution to the equations early in the season when not enough data is available yet."

"Please take the preseason ratings with a grain of salt."

[zippy]

I dont know about SV having the #1 offense, I would say top 10, but as for the offense, 47? They went all the way to state and really did not lose anyone on that side of the ball... I guess they are taking into account the QB position? As for the RB, it was acually the same kid playing in the last couple of games last year that will start this year. Our starting RB was hurt in the playoffs last year. Oh well, good ol rankings.



Aw, this is fun, ain't it? :)

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX

[CCBoy]

I guess I don't like the validity of any of the ranking systems whether it's computer generated or someones opinion, but someones opinion is more entertaining than a computer. What is the reason to have a preseason ranking based on last years stats? If they're going to change as the season goes, there's no reasoning of that system. Most of us could have an acurate poll if we see how the season is going and changing the rankings as weeks go by. Let me know why so many love this Massey ranking system or if you feel like me based on what you know. Educate me please. :confused:

Not knocking, but I just don't understand it's purpose.

[zippy]

I agree with you. A lot of teams that were very good last year, may not be worth a crap this year. Others may have been terrible last year, but good this year. You cant rank teams on last years stats alone. You have to consider how many starters are returning/leaving. What key players are leaving, etc. Like SV had great stats on defense last year, but Pawelek is gone. Yea they LB taking his place might be just as good, but then again he may not. Pawelek was a key player. Also SV went all the way to state and almost knocked off the best team in 5A, and this year they look to be a better team talent wise. And last, you have to consider who each team played the past year. One team might rack up stats in a very weak district, while another is in the toughest district in the state. I dont like these rankings myself. Seems to be a waste of time.


I guess I don't like the validity of any of the ranking systems whether it's computer generated or someones opinion, but someones opinion is more entertaining than a computer. What is the reason to have a preseason ranking based on last years stats? If they're going to change as the season goes, there's no reasoning of that system. Most of us could have an acurate poll if we see how the season is going and changing the rankings as weeks go by. Let me know why so many love this Massey ranking system or if you feel like me based on what you know. Educate me please. :confused:

Not knocking, but I just don't understand it's purpose.

[jrdaniel]

While these preseason ratings are pretty much worthless - as all polls are - it basically gives a glimpse of top programs. Athletes come and go all the time in high school and college ball, but coaches and programs remain the same for the most part. Given that coaching is the single biggest factor involving success at this level, looking at the past performance is a decent guide. An all-star might be the difference between a #5 ranked team and a #10 ranked squad, but not much more than that, unless the athlete is special and the coaches aren't. Point being, great coaches can take the pieces they have and make the puzzle work no matter talent level, it is just easier as the pieces to that puzzle get bigger.

The problem with a preseason power poll is that it includes the one-hit wonders - teams with questionable programs that have talent land in their lap and ride them as far as they can go.