Consolidated/Bryan 10-20-06

[ACM Dad]

The Battle of Brazos County... 13-5A game of the week? Only Kyle Field could hold this game! Haha.

Nothing like playing in Kyle Field. You better have an accurate kicker with those goal posts being a bit skinnier.

This should be a great game. Anyone have a prediction? :D (no locker room material from me!)

[tigerdback083]

well this always turns out to be a pretty close game. You would think that after Ellison beat bryan 21-7 and consol beat Ellison 45-14, that consol would handle bryan, but I dont expect that to be the case at all. I thik that after the bye week, bryan will be very focused and prepared. At the same time, I expect for our coaches to have us in the right frame of mind as well. I think bryan has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball, but im not sure if they have enough to hold consol. The fact that consol runs so much could open up the passing game at times. I think this might be Detron's breakout game. I know bryans O line is huge, but consols linebackers are IMO probably the best in the state. I dont see bryan doing much with the running game. How has their passing attack been so far this year? Im gona say that this game will be close, but im gona predict a 28-17 consol victory.

[ACM Dad]

The problem is you really can't approach this game logically. I've seen the unexpected over the years. Weird stuff happens in rivalry games. This is a very old time rivalry. Emotions run high. Whoever wins, it likely won't be by much. The game last season was decided on the foot of a kicker.

[ryandman89]

I think that Consol will win, but it'll be a close one. Shea might have to make a couple of field goals for the win. Do you guys know when Chris will be ready to play again after his dislocated knee friday night?

[collegstationthug]

i hope this game won't come down to field goals like last year. but i am getting this funny feeling that there is going to be a whole lot of singing of "Ole, Ole" at ths game:D .

[bryanvikings]

Bryan win 21-14. I know yall are favored but this might be a big upset. Just like the Leander game early in the season.

[Slotback]

Close tough game. My sources tell me that the Bryan coaching staff and a lot of the Bryan players were at the Consol-Ellison game scouting.

[ryandman89]

Yea, I'm pumped for the 'ole' in Kyle Field. Maybe we can tear down that stadium with our crazy jumping like we are about to tear down our stadium.

[aCm 07]

Close tough game. My sources tell me that the Bryan coaching staff and a lot of the Bryan players were at the Consol-Ellison game scouting.


Yah they were there...I talked to some of them as a matter of fact. And I will quote what one of the players said, "Man y'all are for real, gettin on Ellison like that."

It'll be a crazy game, you never can predict what's gonna happen at a B-High - Consol game! I pick Consol by 10-14 points. Maybe like 28-14 or so.

[tigerdback083]

Bryan win 21-14. I know yall are favored but this might be a big upset. Just like the Leander game early in the season.

could happen. Bryan definatly came out hot at the beginning of the season, but they have seemed to cool off recently. This could be the game that they relight that fire. I sure hope not though :D

[Finish_Strong]

Consol takes it agian this year, and then bryan and consol meet up agian in the play off's.

[tigerdback083]

Consol takes it agian this year, and then bryan and consol meet up agian in the play off's.

Dang, I would hate to have to beat them twice in one season

that would just be plain mean :D

[aCm 07]

Consol takes it agian this year, and then bryan and consol meet up agian in the play off's.


I don't think we'll meet up in the playoffs. From the D1 bracket that the KTs have put together, if Bryan gets far enough they will face Spring Westfield. Westfield's defense is pretty good, so I don't think we would meet up if the brackets stayed relatively the same as they are now.

[collegstationthug]

Consol takes it agian this year, and then bryan and consol meet up agian in the play off's.


that would mean that both teams would have to get to the state semi's or quarter's right? how funny would that be? i thought the Crosstown Showdown was crowded, but if you throw in that it's a playoff game?!? wow.

[aCm 07]

that would mean that both teams would have to get to the state semi's or quarter's right? how funny would that be? i thought the Crosstown Showdown was crowded, but if you throw in that it's a playoff game?!? wow.


Yah both of us would have to get to the quarterfinals. I don't see that happening if the brackets stay the same. But anything is possible.

[tigerdback083]

we would probably fill up the whole bottom section of kyle

[collegstationthug]

Yah both of us would have to get to the quarterfinals. I don't see that happening if the brackets stay the same. But anything is possible.
thats definitely true. not too many people thought we would kill ellison as bad as we did or thought that bryan would ever be this good so soon. props to bryan for proving a lot of people wrong.

[tigerdback083]

Yah both of us would have to get to the quarterfinals. I don't see that happening if the brackets stay the same. But anything is possible.

like you said, anything is possible...

especially in high school football

[Aggie]

the crowds at the recent consol Bryan games have not been near the size they used to be...especially the Bryan side...in '94 the game was for the district title the first year ACM and Bryan were back in the same district and the bottom was completly filled...an estimated 20,000+...hopefully this year will be like that...a Bryan upset and we could be looking at co-champions. Another note, its no secret that Bryne doesnt like this game being played at Kyle...we just signed a new 2 year agreement, but I dont see A&M extending the contract after that...where will this game be played?...no way we would be able to play at Tigerland...maybe Bryan, but what would we do play at Bryan every year?

[DragonBand06]

If I wasn't going back for SLC's Homecoming, I'd definitely be at this game.

[LeanderLions3033]

If Bryan can get that ground game going then anything can happen. Plus anything can happen in a rivalry game regardless of record IMO.

[VikingDad]

Bryan is as healthy as they have been since the Leander game and I think it will show up on the field. Bryan 13 - Consol 12.

[aCm 07]

Bryan is as healthy as they have been since the Leander game and I think it will show up on the field. Bryan 13 - Consol 12.


Not tryin to criticize anything, but do you think our 12 points will be a result of 2 missed extra points or 4 field goals? I doubt the 2 missed thing, but I'm sure Shea could kick 4 fgs for us.

But anyway, I think it'll be a good game, but I still gotta go with the Tigers. Maybe a score of 21-14 or 28-14 is in order. And is this the GOW for sure?

[ACM Dad]

that would mean that both teams would have to get to the state semi's or quarter's right? how funny would that be? i thought the Crosstown Showdown was crowded, but if you throw in that it's a playoff game?!? wow.


Were that to happen, at least we'd know where the game would be played! :)

[ACM Dad]

the crowds at the recent consol Bryan games have not been near the size they used to be...especially the Bryan side...in '94 the game was for the district title the first year ACM and Bryan were back in the same district and the bottom was completly filled...an estimated 20,000+...hopefully this year will be like that...a Bryan upset and we could be looking at co-champions. Another note, its no secret that Bryne doesnt like this game being played at Kyle...we just signed a new 2 year agreement, but I dont see A&M extending the contract after that...where will this game be played?...no way we would be able to play at Tigerland...maybe Bryan, but what would we do play at Bryan every year?

I think if we went home and home, we'd just have to play at Tigerland and Bryan would have to have a lot of standing room only folks along the fences. As of now, that's just the way it is. I guess when the new HS comes on-line in a few years, we'll have a new stadium built and it'll no longer be an issue.

[tigerdback083]

I think if we went home and home, we'd just have to play at Tigerland and Bryan would have to have a lot of standing room only folks along the fences. As of now, that's just the way it is. I guess when the new HS comes on-line in a few years, we'll have a new stadium built and it'll no longer be an issue.

Not only would the Bryan side have standing room only, but the consol side would to. Its really not that big, especially compared to some of the other stadiums in our district.

[collegstationthug]

did anybody notice that this game is not listed anywhere on the games of the week for week 7:confused: ?!? how is this possible? two ranked teams in a rivalry game!! and one of the games of the week is two unranked teams!! something just ain't right if you ask me.:eek:

[aCm 07]

did anybody notice that this game is not listed anywhere on the games of the week for week 7:confused: ?!? how is this possible? two ranked teams in a rivalry game!! and one of the games of the week is two unranked teams!! something just ain't right if you ask me.:eek:


Yah that's really puzzling. You'd think that a game featuring a top 10 team and their biggest rival would at least make the list. Not to mention Bryan is ranked in the top 25. I'm not so sure what could be going through the KTs heads on that one...but if one of them could explain it would be appreciated. I'm not like offended or mad, just slightly puzzled.

[bobcatDL07]

how is this not a game of the week?

[tigerdback083]

yea I definatly think this should be one of the games of the week but I like their current choices too.

[Aggie]

but in regards to a home and home..if the home team connot supply sufficient seating for the visitors, according to UIL rules they must forfeit their GA sections to the visitors for reserved seats. Basically at Tigerland, if this game was ever played there, It would be all Bryan fans and no GA or student sections on the consol side.

[TX_Aggie_07]

but in regards to a home and home..if the home team connot supply sufficient seating for the visitors, according to UIL rules they must forfeit their GA sections to the visitors for reserved seats. Basically at Tigerland, if this game was ever played there, It would be all Bryan fans and no GA or student sections on the consol side.

That would be horrible!!! Kinda like when Texas A&M played t.u. this past year and their where patches of that puke orange mixed in with the maroon. Except it would be that awful shade of blue those vikings across town wear!!

[tigerdback083]

I wouldnt really mind playing at the vikings stadium. Why not? its not like our fans wouldnt make the five minute drive over there? at least everyone could fit (almost) in their stadium

[Finish_Strong]

The only reason yall dont play at bryan high is because they would have to switch fields every year, like next year yall would play at consol, well consol doesnt have a big enough stadium to hold all the people like bryan does. If consol has a few more winning seasons Im sure there will be some upgrades though.

[bryanvikings]

Dang, I would hate to have to beat them twice in one season

that would just be plain mean :D
we will see mr. sarcastic

[tigerdback083]

we will see mr. sarcastic

lighten up grumpy gills, its called a joke

[Consol Tiger]

lighten up grumpy gills, its called a joke
grumpy gills....:D haha

[tigerdback083]

The only reason yall dont play at bryan high is because they would have to switch fields every year, like next year yall would play at consol, well consol doesnt have a big enough stadium to hold all the people like bryan does. If consol has a few more winning seasons Im sure there will be some upgrades though.

I think they are just going to wait untill we build the new highschool in a couple of years to build a district stadium, a la killeen, waco, katy, ect...

[aCm 07]

I think they are just going to wait untill we build the new highschool in a couple of years to build a district stadium, a la killeen, waco, katy, ect...


Yah that's probably what's gonna happen. We'd have to spend too much money to renovate our current stadium, and make it up to all the handicap codes and such...which could possibly mean having to add an elevator. Too costly at this time I'd think.

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan is as healthy as they have been since the Leander game and I think it will show up on the field. Bryan 13 - Consol 12.

How many blocked field goals? or do u think it will be like last year and consol score 4 field goals

[Tigerwideout#1]

i'll have to say it will be a close game unless Consol gets started it could be a blowout. I think this will be a passing game and a defensive game although bryan does have a really good o-line so who knows well just have to find out

[TigerDb08]

it sure will be a great game it will come down to who wants the brazos boot the most

[Finish_Strong]

For bryan to win this one all they need to do is just pound it up the middle on consol all night, take it slow keep the score low and use up a ton of the clock. Consol's linebackers are great but, bryan's o-line is huge and will be able to handle the consol front 4 or 3. For consol to win this one, blitz the linebackers, make bryan fumble all night and have the offensive side of the ball rack up points fast to throw bryan out of its running game, then bryan will have to go to the pass and well consol should have that convered, especially after a few hits from consol's secondary.

[Finish_Strong]

it sure will be a great game it will come down to who wants the brazos boot the most


Its probally the cheesiest of trophys ever made

[aCm 07]

Its probally the cheesiest of trophys ever made


Man it wouldn't matter if the trophy was made out of toothpicks!:D It's all about the pride and the bragging rights. It's the CROSSDOWN SHOWDOWN man, most important game of the year.

[tigerdback083]

ok well this might not be worth much but...

AMC JV 28- BRYAN JV 14 (scored once on third teamers)

preview of things to come???

[tigerdback083]

Man it wouldn't matter if the trophy was made out of toothpicks!:D It's all about the pride and the bragging rights. It's the CROSSDOWN SHOWDOWN man, most important game of the year.

thats true, the players dont care much about the trophy, just the bragging rights that come with it. We see these guys from bryan over town during the course of the year, and its always nice to rag on them a little if we win. If they win then you know they will be the ones dishin it out. Nobody likes to be on the losing end of any game, but especially not this one

[tigerdback083]

oh and also, no drumline this game. apparently its ''hazardous'' to the moshers. i think theres a petition goin around though

[Finish_Strong]

oh and also, no drumline this game. apparently its ''hazardous'' to the moshers. i think theres a petition goin around though

haha, no they just dont want the stadium to come crashing down

[tigerdback083]

lol, I think it would take a little more than us to bring down Kyle Field. Have you ever stood at the top of Kyle when they are swaying. The stadium actually sways a little.

[Finish_Strong]

Consol takes it 24-17

[Bryan91]

How many blocked field goals? or do u think it will be like last year and consol score 4 field goals

Am I missing something? I thought it was Consol 9-6 last year.

Looking forward to a great game. I expect 20-30K attendance!

This one is a toss-up. I think Scout Teamer hit it on the head. If it's one-sided, Consol will win it. Bryan has to grind it out if we're going to win. Looking at the season so far, the smart money is on Consol, but don't count us out.

Of course, I'm not betting--just a fan. So, Go Blue!

[oldathlete]

I think Bryan will win this one if they can stop Consolidated's running game.

Put your best CB on Detron and put a rush on the QB.

He should not be a big problem, because what I saw when Katy beat them, the QB could not get the ball to him.

[Finish_Strong]

I think Bryan will win this one if they can stop Consolidated's running game.

Put your best CB on Detron and put a rush on the QB.

He should not be a big problem, because what I saw when Katy beat them, the QB could not get the ball to him.


Katy had good CB'S though

[Finish_Strong]

Am I missing something? I thought it was Consol 9-6 last year.

Looking forward to a great game. I expect 20-30K attendance!

This one is a toss-up. I think Scout Teamer hit it on the head. If it's one-sided, Consol will win it. Bryan has to grind it out if we're going to win. Looking at the season so far, the smart money is on Consol, but don't count us out.

Of course, I'm not betting--just a fan. So, Go Blue!


the quote before that stated bryan would win 13-12, thats were the 4 field goals came from, not talking about last year

[Finish_Strong]

Bryans up 7-0

Consol better get there act togher, or Bryans gonna take control of the game pretty quick

[Finish_Strong]

7-7 right now Consol's in scoring range

[Finish_Strong]

7-7

halftime

sounds like a good game.

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan will recieve the ball in the 2nd half

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan looking strong in the 3rd QT.

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan in scoring range, on the 25 yrd line.

[Finish_Strong]

Touchdown Bryan, Clay Joseph

4 min left in the 3rd QT.

Bryan-14

Consol-7

[Finish_Strong]

Consol runs it out to Consol's 28

[Finish_Strong]

Detron lewis catch down to Bryans 45 yrd. line

[Finish_Strong]

3rd and 3 for the tigers

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan stops Tigers, 4th down and 2 for Tigers

[Finish_Strong]

Tigers go for it on 4th and 2, Tigers get a false start, Tigers decide to Punt

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan gets the ball on thier own 20yrd. line

[Finish_Strong]

Going into the 4th QT.

Bryan- 14

Consol-7

[Finish_Strong]

1st and 10 at the Bryan 41

[Finish_Strong]

2nd and 10, Bryan

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan throws on second and 10, incomplete

3rd and 10

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan throws, intercepted by consol's Kevin Smith (BAMF), running it to Bryan's 26 yrd. line, return of 32 yrd.s baby

[Finish_Strong]

Sorry marked down at the Bryan 21 yrd line

[Finish_Strong]

-Consol 3rd and 7, Bryan's def. is looking stout

Jones throws but incomplete

-4th and 7

Shea brewster for the field goal, Missed it to the left

[Finish_Strong]

-Vikings take over 1st and 10 on thier own 21

-Run by the vikings for a gain of 7 out to the 27yrd line.

-2nd and 3

-Run by the vikings for a gain of 3, first down

[Finish_Strong]

Big run by Bryan out to consol's 48

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan's chewin down the clock and just pounding away they should keep control of this game from this point out.

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan in scoring range agian.

Bryan's O-Line are a bunch of beast, blowing out the consol front

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan attempts a field goal

Its No good, wide right

Consol gets the ball back

[Finish_Strong]

Touchdown Consol

14 to 14

Detron Lewis another (BAMF) CATCH

[Finish_Strong]

As the tide turns

Bryan-14

Consol-14

3 min left in the 4th QT.

Great game and play by both teams

[Finish_Strong]

Kirby Smith on the Tackle

2nd and 10

Bryan pass, gain of 8

3rd and 1

Bryan with the run, stopped JUST LIKE LAST YEAR!

4TH and 1


Vikings punt, Consol returns it to the Consol 24yrd line.

[Finish_Strong]

1st and 10 Consol

-Run by jones, gain of 2

2nd and 8

-Pass by jones, throws it away

3rd and 8

-Jones runs, hit hard

4th consol punts it (looking like overtime) 17 seconds left in the 4th qt.

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan returns it out to bryans 39 yrd line.

OVERTIME!!!!!!!! TIED AT 14

[Finish_Strong]

Consol will have the ball first.

1-Run by jackson, stopped for no gain

2-pass from jones to lewis, incomplete

3-Pass from jones to lewis, caught, to the 10 yrd. line

4-1st and goal consol

5-Run by jackson, gain of 1

6-2nd and 8, Pass from jones to williams, TD RAN-RAN

7-TOUCHDOWN BRYAN STAN THE MAN, tied up agian

[Finish_Strong]

2ND OVERTIME
Bryan gets the ball first


1-Run by Bryan, gain of 6

2-Run by Bryan, gain of 3

3- 3rd down and 3, Bryan stopped by clayton hanks.

4- 4th and 2, run by Bryan first down,

5-1st and 10, on the Consol 13yrd. line, FUMBLE!!!!!!!!! CONSOL RECOVERS! TOUCHBACK!!!!!!!

[Finish_Strong]

Consol's Ball

1- Run by Jackson, gain of none

2-Run by lewis, gain of 4

3- 3rd and 6 for Consol, Run by consol gain of 2

4- Consol for the field goal, Kick its up and ITS GOOD!!!!!!!!


CONSOL WINS 24 TO 21

[Finish_Strong]

Bryan had control of this game,ran all over Consol, but Consol special teams wins it for the tigers

[Finish_Strong]

Consol takes it 24-17


Oh so close so close haha

[Firebird]

FANTASTIC game at Kyle field, great high school atmosphere, A&M Consolidated manages to win on a FG in 2OT......Congrats AMC, I sure picked a heck of a ball game to attend for my first College Station HS matchup.

I'm sure that AMCDad will be on here later, I will post more too.

[tigerdback083]

without a doubt, that was the best football game i have ever seen. it was a very evenly played game. the bryan oline was huge, and they pretty much manhandled our dline. Fortuatly, we got the passing game going and detrons pretty much amazing. anywho it was a very well played game on both parts. hats off to bryan on playing us so tough

[Consol Tiger]

Detron was waiting for a breakout game and this was it.....

I cant wait to see the picture of him "mossing" on a guy in the back of the endzone... wow

[tigerdback083]

Detron was waiting for a breakout game and this was it.....

I cant wait to see the picture of him "mossing" on a guy in the back of the endzone... wow

that was probably the best catch i have ever seen. He got sooooo high on that catch. I dont understand why we dont throw more often. We proved tonigh that our passing game can be just as effective if not more than our running game. Randall had a great game too. I think he is very underrated.

[collegstationthug]

i hope whoever is in charge of picking the Games Of The Week notices that they were wrong about this game not being a Game Of The Week. the most amazing game i have ever witnessed IMO. all i can say is WOW.

[Firebird]

i hope whoever is in charge of picking the Games Of The Week notices that they were wrong about this game not being a Game Of The Week. the most amazing game i have ever witnessed IMO. all i can say is WOW.


Not wrong..... there were plenty of deserving games, you can't foresee which ones will actually turn out to be barn burners.

I don't know the names of all the players, so I will give ya'll my thoughts...

Good to see Brewster continuing the tradition of fine kickers for Consol... he might be among the top 2 or 3 HS punters I have seen in person. Bryan's punter ain't a slouch either.

No. 71 Evan Eike OL for Bryan is a HOSS. Bryan's whole line was huge but he stood out. A&M will be lucky to have him. I thought that Bryan's ground game was going to punish Consol all night, good job to the linebackers and undersized DL of the Tigers to slow them down.

WR. No. 9 (Lewis) and No. 1 (?) from Consol. impressed me the most from Cosnol. besides the punter. Big, fast, good hands. Lewis had quite a few circus catches. Can any Consol. insiders tell me if he is getting looked at for a D-IA scholi?

Bryan was much larger than Consol., but I would have to give the edge to Consol. at all skill positions save RB, and in the secondary. Bryan does have one burner at DB, he came all the way across the field to punch the ball out of a Consol. reciever's hands to save a touchdown on a long pass play in the 1st quarter. Just great speed and persistence for a HS player.

The game was pretty boring through the first half, but boy.....those OT's were something.

Good game, great atmosphere. I will catch next year's game at Kyle to be sure.

[Consol Tiger]

DETRON

http://brazossports.com/images/102106/9663_800.jpg

wow

[Consol Tiger]

Not wrong..... there were plenty of deserving games, you can't foresee which ones will actually turn out to be barn burners.

I don't know the names of all the players, so I will give ya'll my thoughts...

Good to see Brewster continuing the tradition of fine kickers for Consol... he might be among the top 2 or 3 HS punters I have seen in person. Bryan's punter ain't a slouch either.

No. 71 Evan Eike OL for Bryan is a HOSS. Bryan's whole line was huge but he stood out. A&M will be lucky to have him. I thought that Bryan's ground game was going to punish Consol all night, good job to the linebackers and undersized DL of the Tigers to slow them down.

WR. No. 9 (Lewis) and No. 1 (?) from Consol. impressed me the most from Cosnol. besides the punter. Big, fast, good hands. Lewis had quite a few circus catches. Can any Consol. insiders tell me if he is getting looked at for a D-IA scholi?

Bryan was much larger than Consol., but I would have to give the edge to Consol. at all skill positions save RB, and in the secondary. Bryan does have one burner at DB, he came all the way across the field to punch the ball out of a Consol. reciever's hands to save a touchdown on a long pass play in the 1st quarter. Just great speed and persistence for a HS player.

The game was pretty boring through the first half, but boy.....those OT's were something.

Good game, great atmosphere. I will catch next year's game at Kyle to be sure.

thats randle williams, i dont think he has any D-1 offers because of his size... he is definately underrated IMO...

and the play where the ball got knocked out inside the 5 was on a run...

[Firebird]

thats randle williams, i dont think he has any D-1 offers because of his size... he is definately underrated IMO...

and the play where the ball got knocked out inside the 5 was on a run...

You're right. Brain fart...thanks

[collegstationthug]

lol, I think it would take a little more than us to bring down Kyle Field. Have you ever stood at the top of Kyle when they are swaying. The stadium actually sways a little.
thats true, but im not sure if you noticed that we definitely broke one of the stands about four rows up. right where two pieces of metal meet, they became disconnected, and was nearly snapped about two feet in from the end. now if only we could do that to our stadium.:D

[tigerdback083]

thats true, but im not sure if you noticed that we definitely broke one of the stands about four rows up. right where two pieces of metal meet, they became disconnected, and was nearly snapped about two feet in from the end. now if only we could do that to our stadium.:D

haha, oh belive me, I noticed... cause it was me and a couple big boys doin the jumpin on tha one that broke. :D

[tigerdback083]

well this always turns out to be a pretty close game. You would think that after Ellison beat bryan 21-7 and consol beat Ellison 45-14, that consol would handle bryan, but I dont expect that to be the case at all. I thik that after the bye week, bryan will be very focused and prepared. At the same time, I expect for our coaches to have us in the right frame of mind as well. I think bryan has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball, but im not sure if they have enough to hold consol. The fact that consol runs so much could open up the passing game at times. I think this might be Detron's breakout game. I know bryans O line is huge, but consols linebackers are IMO probably the best in the state. I dont see bryan doing much with the running game. How has their passing attack been so far this year? Im gona say that this game will be close, but im gona predict a 28-17 consol victory.


who called it?

[ryandman89]

Wow, this was an amazing game. Detron had about 190 receiving yards with 2 touchdowns. Randall had a good game also and Palmer played well except for one huge mistake. He got in some big trouble to for that. He broke open like a 70 yard run, but celebrated to early and had the ball knocked out just like the A&M-Mizzou game. Here are some pics of the game.

http://tigerpics.smugmug.com/photos/104184523-M.jpg
http://tigerpics.smugmug.com/photos/104203152-M.jpg
http://tigerpics.smugmug.com/photos/104220441-M.jpg
http://tigerpics.smugmug.com/photos/104245834-M.jpg

By the way, I think Detron's had offers from Baylor, UTEP, Oklahoma State, and maybe now A&M.

[tigerdback083]

Dont know how credible this is, but I got a hint from someone who would know that Detron is looking very hard at Tech. I will ask him tomorrow at school who he wants to go to tho, and ill get back to yall soon as possible.

[tigerdback083]

Wow, this was an amazing game. Detron had about 190 receiving yards with 2 touchdowns. Randall had a good game also and Palmer played well except for one huge mistake. He got in some big trouble to for that. He broke open like a 70 yard run, but celebrated to early and had the ball knocked out just like the A&M-Mizzou game. Here are some pics of the game.

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By the way, I think Detron's had offers from Baylor, UTEP, Oklahoma State, and maybe now A&M.

I almost cried when he did that. Thankfully, it didnt come back to bite us.

[ryandman89]

Yea, if he wouldn't have made that mistake we probably would've got momentum earlier and not had to win in OT. And yes, I forgot to add TTU to Detrons list. I've heard that his top two are OSU and TT and after last night, I would not be surprised if Texas A&M gave him an offer.

I heard that after the game, Daniel had to run some bleachers before he even went into the locker room. I think Slaughter handled that right and now he will never make that mistake again. Can't wait to beat up on Belton and Harker Heights!

[ACM Dad]

Dont know how credible this is, but I got a hint from someone who would know that Detron is looking very hard at Tech. I will ask him tomorrow at school who he wants to go to tho, and ill get back to yall soon as possible.

Detron has an article on scout.com that came out today where he is quoted as saying he loves the tech offense. My son and i were at the Tech spring game back in April. I spent some time talking there and in emails to the coaches about various players for Consol. Detron would be a great fit for them. His acrobatic circus leaping catches are incredible. His ability to catch a come-backer and then pick up big time yards after catch is something else. As was documented in the paper on saturday, it's that ability that had the bryan DB bite on a pump and go route on the 80 yard TD that tied it up with 3 min to go.

[ACM Dad]

Yea, if he wouldn't have made that mistake we probably would've got momentum earlier and not had to win in OT. And yes, I forgot to add TTU to Detrons list. I've heard that his top two are OSU and TT and after last night, I would not be surprised if Texas A&M gave him an offer.

I heard that after the game, Daniel had to run some bleachers before he even went into the locker room. I think Slaughter handled that right and now he will never make that mistake again. Can't wait to beat up on Belton and Harker Heights!

I certainly didn't see Palmer running stands in Kyle after the game. i have a hard tiem believing that BS. Now on Saturday before films perhaps? Haha. But, again, probably not.

He's a good kid that got a bit carried away. You gotta remember, Palmer really gets up for playing Bryan. It was a beautiful 80 yard run. He followed his blocks and hit the hole and then it was just a race down the sidelines.

Again, this was against bryan, running down their sideline, in front of their band. blah blah blah I dont' know if its that he just knows so many guys there, or if it's that he's been playing against them since 5th grade or what, he just gets geeked up playing those guys.

It was a shame, but his "punishment' was that he didn't get his hands on the ball much after that if I recall correctly. He knows he let his buddies down and I know him well enough to know that was all the punishment he needed. It won't happen again. I'm just glad it didnt' cause us to lose. I'm a big Palmer fan and always will be. I feel bad for him as it was such a great run. I haven't seen the film yet, but the Bryan DB might have punched that ball out regardless of whether Palmer had stated celebrating. We'll never know.

Also, don't count your chickens on HH and Belton. HH is undefeated in district, right?

[aCm 07]

I certainly didn't see Palmer running stands in Kyle after the game. i have a hard tiem believing that BS. Now on Saturday before films perhaps? Haha. But, again, probably not.

He's a good kid that got a bit carried away. You gotta remember, Palmer really gets up for playing Bryan. It was a beautiful 80 yard run. He followed his blocks and hit the hole and then it was just a race down the sidelines.

Again, this was against bryan, running down their sideline, in front of their band. blah blah blah I dont' know if its that he just knows so many guys there, or if it's that he's been playing against them since 5th grade or what, he just gets geeked up playing those guys.

It was a shame, but his "punishment' was that he didn't get his hands on the ball much after that if I recall correctly. He knows he let his buddies down and I know him well enough to know that was all the punishment he needed. It won't happen again. I'm just glad it didnt' cause us to lose. I'm a big Palmer fan and always will be. I feel bad for him as it was such a great run. I haven't seen the film yet, but the Bryan DB might have punched that ball out regardless of whether Palmer had stated celebrating. We'll never know.

Also, don't count your chickens on HH and Belton. HH is undefeated in district, right?

Yah, Harker Heights is undefeated in district at this point in time. The only thing is that they have yet to play Ellison, Bryan, or us. But I've heard some good things about Heights, and they certainly gave us a scare last year.

[tigerdback083]

Yah, Harker Heights is undefeated in district at this point in time. The only thing is that they have yet to play Ellison, Bryan, or us. But I've heard some good things about Heights, and they certainly gave us a scare last year.

but at the same time they have barly beat the teams that we blew out. I guess that doesnt mean much though. I dont think they have really played anyone tough yet.

[Aggie]

if Consol had a QB they would be unstoppable....all they have to do is get the ball to Detron and mix in the run a bit...tehy also need to stop rolling the freaking pocket everytime they want to throw the ball, the QB's are not that mobile and dont have strong enough arms..3 step drop throw it up for Detron..its that simple. Consol coaches seem lost at times...and they take way too long to get the plays in...cost us a delay of game inside our own 10...terrible. Its obvious what Consol needs to work on in order to have another long playoff run.

[Consol Tiger]

if Consol had a QB they would be unstoppable....all they have to do is get the ball to Detron and mix in the run a bit...tehy also need to stop rolling the freaking pocket everytime they want to throw the ball, the QB's are not that mobile and dont have strong enough arms..3 step drop throw it up for Detron..its that simple. Consol coaches seem lost at times...and they take way too long to get the plays in...cost us a delay of game inside our own 10...terrible. Its obvious what Consol needs to work on in order to have another long playoff run.

i think the coaches were expecting Austin Cassidy ('07) ( http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=35995 ) to be our qb the past two years, but he moved before his sophomore year cuz his dad got a job at Nebraska...
i used to play basketball with him when i was in 8th grade and he was a freshman... he could dunk, and he was a great athlete for a freshman in high school

[ryandman89]

Yea, but Austin hasn't been here for a while. I thought he left like after his 8th grade year. Anyways, I think that against Bryan, our o-line probably couldn't hold that d-line long enough for Chris to sit in the pocket and throw a good pass. But I see what you're saying, with the 3 step drop and throw, just as long as somebody's open. I also think that we should be getting the ball to Detron more than we do now. When we get in the redzone we should throw a jumpball to him b/c he'll probably outjump the cornerback 95% of the time. Just my thoughts though.

[tigerdback083]

if Consol had a QB they would be unstoppable....all they have to do is get the ball to Detron and mix in the run a bit...tehy also need to stop rolling the freaking pocket everytime they want to throw the ball, the QB's are not that mobile and dont have strong enough arms..3 step drop throw it up for Detron..its that simple. Consol coaches seem lost at times...and they take way too long to get the plays in...cost us a delay of game inside our own 10...terrible. Its obvious what Consol needs to work on in order to have another long playoff run.

IMO, chris has done an excellent job. He couldnt play at the beginning of the season because he had to have surgery on his foot, but now that he is 100% I think he is fitting in just fine. He may not be the biggest, fastest, or stronges, but he seems to have a good feel for the game. He also makes quick decisions, and if it werent for his knee he is actually pretty fast. Obviously he doesnt have a cannon arm, but he can throw a good spiral plenty far.

Also, you cant forget about Randall. He may not be as highly recruited as detron, but he is still very good. I think that they should use detron on some decoy routs and run randall underneath sometimes. He has great hands and is very fast. I think that often times, the defense is so worried about stopping detron that they forget about randall.

In reguards to taking to long, Im not sure how much quicker we could do it, seeing as we run a no huddle offense. I think the delay of game was either a fluke or just chrises fault.

[ACM Dad]

Saw the film today. Several things stood out. Bryan's o-line is massive and all that, but man do they hold a lot. Not just a lot, but about every play. They had 2 holding penalities called all game. If you don't believe me, watch the film.

I disagree with the guy above about the QB situation. We've got 3 guys that can do the job. None of them are big time stars at this point, but with jones coming off the knee injury, I thought he did a great job. I only saw one "bad" pass all game. (and it landed at detron's feet where no one else could catch it) Bryan had 9 guys in the box for a lot of the game. They dared us to pass and we did.

Consol had a bunch of stupid penalties that killed drives. That has to stop.

Both coaching staffs made good adjustments when it counted. Classic cross town match. We all expected a war and we got one. Next time I'd like to see the officials call the game a bit more equally.

Definitely things to work on, but having a week off is a good timing.

[Aggie]

In reguards to taking to long, Im not sure how much quicker we could do it, seeing as we run a no huddle offense. I think the delay of game was either a fluke or just chrises fault.
Consol does not run a no huddle, the concept of the no huddle is to not give the defense a rest and make them keep the same personel on the field...again consol does not do this. Yes consol does not huddle, but they signal in the plays, which takes way too long..coach Pryor needs to hurry this up..and then the players look up the play on their wrist band and snap the ball with the play clock always around 5 seconds remaining. That is not a no huddle offense...the defense is allowed plenty of time make adjustments and subs as they wish.
When Ross Rogers was at Consol, he was a master of the no huddle. He had no wrist bands...players knew the plays and there was always a sense of urgency..his guys hustled and didnt allow the defense any time...once the ball was set for play..it was snapped. That was a no huddle offense...and it was effective, very effective.

[89gator]

Aggie, What year did you graduate from Consolidated? Rogers did signal his plays in, but it was out of the same formation, and it was fast. You forgot some off your all-school team.

[Aggie]

yes Rogers ran the no huddle strictly from the shotgun...but he mixed up the shotgun formation...Split, Spread, Wide, Ace..etc..and he did it with the same personel on the field. This did not allow the defense any time to get set and/or make adjustments without calling a timeout. I graduated from Consol in '97.

[KT2000]

This isn't meant to bash the other QBs, but I don't see how anyone other than the 6'3 junior you guys have starts. He is very athletic, and doesn't throw a bad ball either. I think he's got some real potential. I've seen 5 quarters of Consol live this year, and that's the guy I'd have in there starting just based on that.

[Aggie]

I agree, Dominic Preston should be the starting QB. To be successful in the passing game, with the type of passing offense consol runs, we need an athletic mobile QB with a strong arm. The other QB's do not possess these talents. Consol rolls the pocket for nearly every pass...with QB's that dont fit the mold...they, if anything, should be drop back passers.
When consol passes...we really hurt ourselves becouse we basically take away half the field..which ever side we dont roll to because our QB's dont have the athleticism to throw across their body. Half this blame however needs to be placed on the coaching staff to not making a few adjustments to fit your quaterbacks strengths. Bottom line, for the offense consol wants to run, Dominic Preston is the best option at QB.

[VikingDad]

[QUOTE=ACM Dad]Saw the film today. Several things stood out. Bryan's o-line is massive and all that, but man do they hold a lot. Not just a lot, but about every play. They had 2 holding penalities called all game. If you don't believe me, watch the film.


I was at the game, I watched the film and one thing that is not open for debate is that AMC won. Are you suggesting that you didn't win by enough because of what you consider non-calls on the line. I have my own list of concerns about officiating, but the game is over and you won. Let's leave it at that.

[Aggie]

I agree...in high school football holding penalties can be called on every play...but they dont, they cant. At this level there is holding all over the field and they only call the "severe" ones, otherwise the games would never end. During a high school game both teams get away with numerous holding penalties.

[aCm 07]

I agree, Dominic Preston should be the starting QB. To be successful in the passing game, with the type of passing offense consol runs, we need an athletic mobile QB with a strong arm. The other QB's do not possess these talents. Consol rolls the pocket for nearly every pass...with QB's that dont fit the mold...they, if anything, should be drop back passers.
When consol passes...we really hurt ourselves becouse we basically take away half the field..which ever side we dont roll to because our QB's dont have the athleticism to throw across their body. Half this blame however needs to be placed on the coaching staff to not making a few adjustments to fit your quaterbacks strengths. Bottom line, for the offense consol wants to run, Dominic Preston is the best option at QB.


Have you watched Kyle Gideon run? Did you see the Harker Heights game last year? Obviously not, because he saved the game for us by running down the sideline for a huge chunk of yardage on one play. He has the arm strength to throw anywhere on the field, I promise you. Now this year we haven't really showed that, but last year he consistently brought us back at the end of games. Chris has more touch than Kyle, and Dominic doesn't yet really seem to fit the QB mold. He's not really that accurate of a passer yet. Give him time and he will develop into a better QB, but that this time I believe either Kyle or Chris would be the best choice.

[tigerdback083]

Consol does not run a no huddle, the concept of the no huddle is to not give the defense a rest and make them keep the same personel on the field...again consol does not do this. Yes consol does not huddle, but they signal in the plays, which takes way too long..coach Pryor needs to hurry this up..and then the players look up the play on their wrist band and snap the ball with the play clock always around 5 seconds remaining. That is not a no huddle offense...the defense is allowed plenty of time make adjustments and subs as they wish.
When Ross Rogers was at Consol, he was a master of the no huddle. He had no wrist bands...players knew the plays and there was always a sense of urgency..his guys hustled and didnt allow the defense any time...once the ball was set for play..it was snapped. That was a no huddle offense...and it was effective, very effective.


so if they dont huddle, but they dont run the no huddle offense, then what do they run?

[tigerdback083]

Have you watched Kyle Gideon run? Did you see the Harker Heights game last year? Obviously not, because he saved the game for us by running down the sideline for a huge chunk of yardage on one play. He has the arm strength to throw anywhere on the field, I promise you. Now this year we haven't really showed that, but last year he consistently brought us back at the end of games. Chris has more touch than Kyle, and Dominic doesn't yet really seem to fit the QB mold. He's not really that accurate of a passer yet. Give him time and he will develop into a better QB, but that this time I believe either Kyle or Chris would be the best choice.


Kyle is fast, but he is not the best quarterback. He does have a strong arm, but I would say of our three qb's, he is the least accurate.

He did bring us back in several games, but you have to rememeber he also allowed us to get down in the first part. Im not trying to take anything away from him, but I just think Chris has proven himself to be the better of the two time and time again.

And Dominic is a very accurate passer. I have seen him make several amazing throws in practice. If I were guessin, I would say that you will see him make several amazing passes in the games next year. But for right now, he is not the man for the starting job. Chris is. He has played well in every game, and untill otherwise, he is the best choice for the job.

[aCm 07]

Kyle is fast, but he is not the best quarterback. He does have a strong arm, but I would say of our three qb's, he is the least accurate.

He did bring us back in several games, but you have to rememeber he also allowed us to get down in the first part. Im not trying to take anything away from him, but I just think Chris has proven himself to be the better of the two time and time again.

And Dominic is a very accurate passer. I have seen him make several amazing throws in practice. If I were guessin, I would say that you will see him make several amazing passes in the games next year. But for right now, he is not the man for the starting job. Chris is. He has played well in every game, and untill otherwise, he is the best choice for the job.


Yah I agree that Chris has been the best QB consistently this year. I was just replying to the other post b/c I think Kyle is our best running quarterback. When he takes off it seems that he is more able to find holes and get upfield faster. Chris is our most accurate passer, but he lacks arm strength due to his shoulder and elbow injuries. The other night against Bryan he underthrew Detron, but he also made several throws that were right on the money, and he hit Detron in stride down the sideline. As far as Dominic goes, I personally think he will be great in the future, but he just needs to get some varsity experience. He's not our best QB right now b/c he doesn't have the game experience that Kyle or Chris do. Next year I'm sure he will be amazing, I agree 100% with you on that. From what I've seen, he isn't yet quite as accurate as he could be, but I am confident that he will get better as time goes on. He will be a great QB next year and I'm sure colleges will begin to take notice of him once he lands the starting job.

[tigerdback083]

Yah I agree that Chris has been the best QB consistently this year. I was just replying to the other post b/c I think Kyle is our best running quarterback. When he takes off it seems that he is more able to find holes and get upfield faster. Chris is our most accurate passer, but he lacks arm strength due to his shoulder and elbow injuries. The other night against Bryan he underthrew Detron, but he also made several throws that were right on the money, and he hit Detron in stride down the sideline. As far as Dominic goes, I personally think he will be great in the future, but he just needs to get some varsity experience. He's not our best QB right now b/c he doesn't have the game experience that Kyle or Chris do. Next year I'm sure he will be amazing, I agree 100% with you on that. From what I've seen, he isn't yet quite as accurate as he could be, but I am confident that he will get better as time goes on. He will be a great QB next year and I'm sure colleges will begin to take notice of him once he lands the starting job.

Yea, Dominic is gona be awesome. I was talkin to him yesterday and he said that a couple of schools have already started talking to him. He is just one of those athletes that can play any position. Since 7th grade he has played cornerback, safety, running back, quarterback, reciever, and... believe it or not... kicker (he actually kicked the ball about five yards into the endzone during 8th grade... pretty impressive)

[aCm 07]

Yea, Dominic is gona be awesome. I was talkin to him yesterday and he said that a couple of schools have already started talking to him. He is just one of those athletes that can play any position. Since 7th grade he has played cornerback, safety, running back, quarterback, reciever, and... believe it or not... kicker (he actually kicked the ball about five yards into the endzone during 8th grade... pretty impressive)


Yah he's a great athlete, on the football field and on the basketball court. Right now he could play several spots, but he needs the experience at QB since we'll be lacking at that particular position next year.

[Aggie]

Have you watched Kyle Gideon run? Did you see the Harker Heights game last year? Obviously not, because he saved the game for us by running down the sideline for a huge chunk of yardage on one play. He has the arm strength to throw anywhere on the field, I promise you. Now this year we haven't really showed that, but last year he consistently brought us back at the end of games. Chris has more touch than Kyle, and Dominic doesn't yet really seem to fit the QB mold. He's not really that accurate of a passer yet. Give him time and he will develop into a better QB, but that this time I believe either Kyle or Chris would be the best choice.
Yes I saw every game LAST YEAR and Kyle is not the same QB he was LAST YEAR.

[Aggie]

so if they dont huddle, but they dont run the no huddle offense, then what do they run?
read my post...I said the "concept" of the no huddle. When you allow the defense to make adjustments and/or substitutions, you are not running a true no huddle offense, you are just calling the plays from the sidelines. No difference.

[ACM Dad]

We'd all probably agree that to go to a true no-huddle, things would have to be sped up a bit every play. To me, calling the right play is more important to me than just calling a play quickly. And when they want to speed things up, they have the option to do it and not take guys out of their normal routine. Your other option is to rotate players in with the play. A lot of teams use wideouts for that function, but you really want your best guys out there all the time, not necessarily rotating. Also, why have your player running 25+ yards to bring the play in quickly? Just signal them in and run the play.

I do like that the guys huddle when they're near the goal line about to score or backed up facing a 90+ yard drive. You certainly want to all be on the same page in those situations.

They use a lot of formations. Then you have to make sure you have the right personnel out there. That sometimes takes time. The various formations force the opposition to defend you in different ways. So if they have more to work on in preparation, that's good for us. Come the playoffs, who knows what you'll see.

As long as they keep winning, it's a moot point. Sometimes you just have to trust your coaches. But I guess that would render internet message boards pretty useless and boring, huh?

I'm a self-confessed homer. My family could live anywhere in TX, as my job wouldn't really care. I have liked what I've seen in this program since Slaughter was hired. If not, we'd have moved a long time ago.

Time to get off this thread and look to next week.

[Finish_Strong]

Yes I saw every game LAST YEAR and Kyle is not the same QB he was LAST YEAR.

agreed

[cyfallsbooster2]

Yea, Dominic is gona be awesome. I was talkin to him yesterday and he said that a couple of schools have already started talking to him. He is just one of those athletes that can play any position. Since 7th grade he has played cornerback, safety, running back, quarterback, reciever, and... believe it or not... kicker (he actually kicked the ball about five yards into the endzone during 8th grade... pretty impressive)
Heck, I'm an old fart and I can kick the ball 5 yards, into OR out of the endzone!

(Sometimes meanings get lost in writing):D

[ryandman89]

At the quarterback position, I agree that Chris is the best choice right now. If you watch the one deep pass play to Detron up the sideline, you'll know why. It was right on the money. In the future, Dominic will be an explosive player to watch. Honestly though, I just don't see us being to great next year. I think that we lose too many key players. We'll make the playoffs, but Dominic will be the main reason why.

By the way, has anybody watched Matt Szymanski kick at an A&M game lately. It seems that his leg is just dead. All of his kicks land on the 10 yard line and two weeks ago he had one that went about 10 yards out of bounds. Why can't he kick the ball through the gaolposts like he did in high school. Correct me if I 'm wrong but I think it's b/c in college if you miskick a kickoff which you are trying to kick through the endzone, the receiver will catch it short and on a line drive and have time to set up a return. Anybody know?

[tigerdback083]

At the quarterback position, I agree that Chris is the best choice right now. If you watch the one deep pass play to Detron up the sideline, you'll know why. It was right on the money. In the future, Dominic will be an explosive player to watch. Honestly though, I just don't see us being to great next year. I think that we lose too many key players. We'll make the playoffs, but Dominic will be the main reason why.

By the way, has anybody watched Matt Szymanski kick at an A&M game lately. It seems that his leg is just dead. All of his kicks land on the 10 yard line and two weeks ago he had one that went about 10 yards out of bounds. Why can't he kick the ball through the gaolposts like he did in high school. Correct me if I 'm wrong but I think it's b/c in college if you miskick a kickoff which you are trying to kick through the endzone, the receiver will catch it short and on a line drive and have time to set up a return. Anybody know?

well my guess is that its a lot harder kicking in front of 100,000 people than it is kicking in front of 10,000. You gota imagine all the pressure he has on him, especially with him leaving highschool a year early

[aCm 07]

well my guess is that its a lot harder kicking in front of 100,000 people than it is kicking in front of 10,000. You gota imagine all the pressure he has on him, especially with him leaving highschool a year early


I've talked to Matt several times since he's been at A&M, and he's told me that they're trying to completely change the way he kicks the ball. They're trying to get him to kick it higher and completely end-over-end. This makes him kick the ball shorter. If they would allow him to do what he did in high school, he'd still be kicking it out the back of the endzone. Everyone needs to get off his back and give him time, once he's used to all the changes he'll be back to kicking it out of the endzone and making 50+ yard field goals.

[tigerdback083]

I agree, hes still young and he has plenty of time to develope. Once he gets used to kicking this new way, or once they let him do things his way, he will probably be the best kicker in the nation.

[ACM Dad]

Wow, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Who cares if the ball is end over end if it's sitting in row 5 on every kickoff?

[aCm 07]

Wow, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Who cares if the ball is end over end if it's sitting in row 5 on every kickoff?


That's exactly what I thought. But maybe they're just trying to make him better for the future. I don't know really, but for now they should let him kick the way he was VERY successful in high school.