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zippy
08-24-2005, 09:28 PM
At the beginning of the 1995 season Smithson Valley had an overall record of 53-133-6 (terrible .2917) . However between 1995-2004 Smithson Valley has managed a record of 110-25-0,(.8148) making the overall record at Smithson Valley 162-158-6 (.5061) Between 1997-2004 SV has managed to lose only 16 games. Between 1999-2004 Sv has managed a record of 73-11.

Between 1995-2004, Smithson Valley trailed only Commerce, Westlake, CC Calallen, La Marque, Katy, and Celina for the #7 spot, for the most wins in that decade (well minus 2005). If Coach Hill will stay at SV, there is no telling where they could end up.

Why is this important, or informative? I dont think people realized not only how bad SV sucked at one time, but what kind of impact Larry Hill has had on that program. This is about the time he started. Here is a good article about him. Amazing that he almost didnt even get the job. What a mistake that woudl have been!

David Flores- Larry Hill Smithson Valley Opportunist
David Flores: Hill has made the most of opportunity
San Antonio Express-News

Larry Hill was an assistant coach at Clark High School in the spring of 1993 when he applied for the job of head football coach and athletic director at Smithson Valley.

Eleven years later, he admits it was "an afterthought."

Hill knew the Rangers competed in Class 4A, but not much else beyond that.

"I was born and raised in San Antonio, but I didn't even know where Smithson Valley was," he said Friday with a chuckle.

Davy DuBose got the job, but fate took a turn three days later when he changed his mind and turned down the offer.

So, guess who got a call from Comal School District officials?

"It had been about a month since I had interviewed and I had kind of forgotten about it," Hill said. "When they called, I thought they were just going to thank me for applying. Well, they offered me the job — and here I am."

Second choice or not, Hill has done a bang-up job as Smithson Valley's football coach in the past 12 seasons. Moreover, the Rangers' entire athletic program has flourished under his leadership.

But it's his work with the football team that has been noticed most.

Hill, 44, has earned a reputation for consistently getting a great effort from his teams. Smithson Valley isn't devoid of talent, mind you, but it's not as though the Rangers are loaded with speed and size every season.

"I think Larry is very good at taking average talent and convincing his kids that they play better than average," said Smithson Valley principal Jim Rodrigue, a former football coach. "He is one of the most organized people I've known in my life."

Smithson Valley is 118-36 and has missed the playoffs only twice under Hill, who graduated from East Central in 1979.

When the Rangers play Houston Clear Lake in the Class 5A Division II state semifinals today, the game will mark the fourth time in the past seven years that Smithson Valley has advanced that far.

If it's true that a team takes on the personality and character of its coach, Smithson Valley reflects the qualities that have made Hill successful.

The Rangers are highly efficient, disciplined and dedicated to the credo that the foundation of any winning program is hard work and a commitment to the fundamentals.

The words "Discipline," "Effort" and "Class" are painted on the walls of the hallway in the Smithson Valley field house, serving as reminders of what is expected from each player.

"Talent levels will come and go," Hill said. "You have no control over size and speed, but you can have discipline, effort and class no matter what kind of talent you have. That's the common thread of what we try to do here."

After going 1-9 in Hill's first season, the Rangers finished 8-3 in 1994 and made the playoffs for the first time since Smithson Valley opened in 1976.

"You always have to have a breakthrough year, but even with that, I don't think anybody could have seen what would follow," Hill said.

The Rangers hit a bump in the road in 1995, when they finished 5-5 and missed the playoffs, but they have been in the postseason the past nine years.

"They do a tremendous job and it starts with Larry," Madison coach Jim Streety said. "Yes, he has a good coaching staff that has been very stable and, yes, he's in a good community with good kids. But what's making the difference now is that they have tradition, and that's because of Larry.

"They have won and expect to be successful. That's what has put them at another level. Their time has come."

Hill began to show his extraordinary leadership skills when he played quarterback at East Central, often giving rides to teammates in the summer so they could work out together.

"I'm not a bit surprised by his success," said Ed Escamilla, who was only 26 when he became East Central coach in 1977. "I learned a lot from Larry. He called about 80 percent of his plays, and I felt very comfortable with him doing it."

Hill went on to an outstanding career as a quarterback at Sul Ross, where he earned NAIA All-America honors.

After graduating in 1983, he went to work as an assistant for his college coach, Joe George, who had moved to Texas City High School. By the second season, Hill was running the Stingarees' offense.

He spent six seasons at Texas City before becoming head coach at Jourdanton in 1989. Hill left Jourdanton after two years to join Mike Robbins' staff at Clark.

He was with the Cougars for two seasons before catching his big break at Smithson Valley.

The record indicates it has been an even bigger stroke of good fortune for the Rangers.

Reaganrattler07
08-24-2005, 09:40 PM
And y'all complain Flores doesn't pay attention to y'all! :)

XSVRanger
08-24-2005, 10:05 PM
I like the thread. My mother was a teacher for many years when SV had a losing football team. Between '78 and '93 SV suffered fifteen consecutive losing seasons. Most fans don't even know that the Rangers were so bad at one time, and I'm glad there's someone on this forum with the facts and appreciates the difference.

drgnbkr
08-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Nice article on SV..you guys have a great coach! Good luck this year & let's do it again in December....Maybe the 3rd time will be a charm...maybe not... ;)

zippy
08-24-2005, 10:43 PM
Would'nt it be crazy if they met again. I dont see it happening. Something has got to give. 2 teams can't both come into 5A at the same time, and not only make it to state every year, but make it and play each other. If they both made it this year, that would be 3 out of 4 years in 5A right? I dont see that as a possiblility. But it sure would be cool if it happened. Oh yea, that article is a few months old I think. I just came across it today however.


Nice article on SV..you guys have a great coach! Good luck this year & let's do it again in December....Maybe the 3rd time will be a charm...maybe not... ;)

zippy
08-24-2005, 10:45 PM
To be 100% honest with you, I dont even know who this guy is. I have never complained about it. But then again, I dont read half of these articles anymore. This was just a good one about Hill. I dont even know when it was written. Also, no matter who you are, as a reporter, its getting to the point where they can't not pay attention to SV.

And y'all complain Flores doesn't pay attention to y'all! :)

zippy
08-24-2005, 10:49 PM
They were terrible in that time span, and I can't figure out why. Everyone I know that is on the staff at SV, as well as parents can't put a finger on what it was. They say the coaches were average during this period. I do know a couple of people that attended the school during this period, but I do not know them good enough to ask them why they sucked so bad. :o If anyone knows what it was that caused them to be so bad between 76-93, please inform us.


I like the thread. My mother was a teacher for many years when SV had a losing football team. Between '78 and '93 SV suffered fifteen consecutive losing seasons. Most fans don't even know that the Rangers were so bad at one time, and I'm glad there's someone on this forum with the facts and appreciates the difference.

zippy
08-24-2005, 10:52 PM
Oh one cool thing about it, is that in my opinion, these two schools have the two best coaches in the state. Maybe that is why they are doing so well..?? These two may not be all time great coaches yet like some(the GA Moore type), but they are on their way for sure. I just hope they dont go off to college too soon. It may become the greatest battle between two coaches in High School football history.


Nice article on SV..you guys have a great coach! Good luck this year & let's do it again in December....Maybe the 3rd time will be a charm...maybe not... ;)

RedRage00
08-24-2005, 11:56 PM
And y'all complain Flores doesn't pay attention to y'all! :)


I was thinking the same thing! lol

zippy
08-25-2005, 12:04 AM
I guess I missed people complaining about his guy. Maybe he didnt pay attention to them until the last year or so? Honestly, like I said, I dont pay attention to which reports are giving props to SV and which are not. Trust me, I am very used to the idea of people not paying attention to SV, so I dont notice things like this too much.

I was thinking the same thing! lol

BandidoNB
08-25-2005, 12:54 AM
I remember when SV wasnt any good either; in middle schools I would go to the New Braunfels HS football games and I would alwasy remember thinking "well I dont know which games we will win, but I know we will beat SV cuz they arent any good". The Rangers never won any games.

My older sister still refers to them as "Cinderella High School" since the SV she remembers is the one who always had losing seasons; what an ironic turn of events.

Reaganrattler07
08-25-2005, 08:15 PM
To be 100% honest with you, I dont even know who this guy is. I have never complained about it. But then again, I dont read half of these articles anymore. This was just a good one about Hill. I dont even know when it was written. Also, no matter who you are, as a reporter, its getting to the point where they can't not pay attention to SV.

To be honest, the only reason I know of him is I sometimes look at the author before I read an article....than some Ranger fans were complaining about how SV was not ranked in a certain way or something (cant remember) and they were complaining that Flores never appreciated SV....

zippy
08-25-2005, 09:27 PM
Yea, I dont pay much attention to who wrote articles when I read them. I would never complain about someone saying SV is not good, or should not be ranked, or will not beat a certain team. I would rather people say this. It is one reason SV wins a lot of the games they do, stuff like this gets them even more ready to whip some tail. As for an aurthor appreciating a team, I dont think that will ever take place. If you as a writer like a certain team, your going to give them more credit than they are due. If you want a really good example of this, pick up one of Dave Campbell's magazines!



To be honest, the only reason I know of him is I sometimes look at the author before I read an article....than some Ranger fans were complaining about how SV was not ranked in a certain way or something (cant remember) and they were complaining that Flores never appreciated SV....

Reaganrattler07
08-25-2005, 09:53 PM
Well, I don't really like seeing who wrote the article...I could care less, I just want the information he has for me. It took forever for Reagan Basketball to get the recognition they deserved....all through the playoffs, all you heard about was Warren and then on the eve of the State tournament there were loads of articles...we even got a front page mention. If I remember SV did too...

zippy
08-25-2005, 10:37 PM
Yea, SV is starting to get credit. You also have to remember that it is not really a San Antonio school. As San Antonio has began to grow, it is starting to become one. If you have ever been to the school, its a while outside of San Antonio. They also have good articles on particular people from SV, like the Pawelek article a few months ago. As for Reagan football getting recognition, Campbell's for sure gives it to them! Sometimes, like Reagan Basketball, you have to win it all or get really close to get in the news.


Well, I don't really like seeing who wrote the article...I could care less, I just want the information he has for me. It took forever for Reagan Basketball to get the recognition they deserved....all through the playoffs, all you heard about was Warren and then on the eve of the State tournament there were loads of articles...we even got a front page mention. If I remember SV did too...

Reaganrattler07
08-25-2005, 10:47 PM
Yea, SV is starting to get credit. You also have to remember that it is not really a San Antonio school. As San Antonio has began to grow, it is starting to become one. If you have ever been to the school, its a while outside of San Antonio. They also have good articles on particular people from SV, like the Pawelek article a few months ago. As for Reagan football getting recognition, Campbell's for sure gives it to them! Sometimes, like Reagan Basketball, you have to win it all or get really close to get in the news.

Haha, I don't expect Reagan football to get a lot of recognition as for basketball - the four peat district champions....that's quite a bit to get recognition, don't ya think?

Yeah, I've been to SV before...only to the stadium and gym....I must admit wasn't too fond of the wood on the visitor's side of the stadium. But it has a nice gym. But the E-N does a good job of covering schools outside of San Antonio...they cover Devine pretty well. But there's too many schools to cover in one week.

zippy
08-25-2005, 11:24 PM
Hey, the Home side is not that much better. They spend all their money on the field, and other stuff for the players. 700,000 field or new visitor stands. Of course they went with the turf.. A lady from Judson fell last year, so I figure the stands will be updated soon. I can see how it would be hard to cover all the surrounding schools. SA has enough as it is. I think if they cover them when they are doing good, they should cover them all the time. That would be nice. I mean, its not like SV has a newpaper. They dont even have a town anymore!


Haha, I don't expect Reagan football to get a lot of recognition as for basketball - the four peat district champions....that's quite a bit to get recognition, don't ya think?

Yeah, I've been to SV before...only to the stadium and gym....I must admit wasn't too fond of the wood on the visitor's side of the stadium. But it has a nice gym. But the E-N does a good job of covering schools outside of San Antonio...they cover Devine pretty well. But there's too many schools to cover in one week.

svrangerfan
08-30-2005, 07:05 PM
That would be nice. I mean, its not like SV has a newpaper. They dont even have a town anymore!


As the Great Great Grandson of the great Benjamin Franklin Smithson I resent that.

Reaganrattler07
08-30-2005, 07:07 PM
Hey, the Home side is not that much better. They spend all their money on the field, and other stuff for the players. 700,000 field or new visitor stands. Of course they went with the turf.. A lady from Judson fell last year, so I figure the stands will be updated soon. I can see how it would be hard to cover all the surrounding schools. SA has enough as it is. I think if they cover them when they are doing good, they should cover them all the time. That would be nice. I mean, its not like SV has a newpaper. They dont even have a town anymore!

I was kinda afraid that some of the wood was rotten....cause i think it might've drizzled or something before it and it was like wet/rotten and it was reaaaly cold the night i went...

zippy
08-30-2005, 07:31 PM
Yea, wet wood and cold temp do not go good with one another, they are going to replace it with up to date stuff soon.


I was kinda afraid that some of the wood was rotten....cause i think it might've drizzled or something before it and it was like wet/rotten and it was reaaaly cold the night i went...

Reaganrattler07
08-30-2005, 07:32 PM
Yea, wet wood and cold temp do not go good with one another, they are going to replace it with up to date stuff soon.

That's good....I normally sit high up and the further we went it turned into aluminum so that was ok...but cold, wet aluminum isn't too good either :(